[00:00] backports ? [00:00] what is that? [00:01] i dont see something with backports [00:02] backports are packages 'ported back' to a previous release [00:03] Check all the tabs [00:03] It will be there somewhere [00:04] all tabs are checked [00:05] where you from ? [00:07] i ask because talking my own laguage is easier for me ^^ [00:08] USA [00:08] aaah oke [00:08] i am from the Netherlands [00:09] oke well i will go now.. check ya next time!! thanks for the help! [00:09] Later [00:35] hola/hello! [00:38] recently installed Ubuntu-Mate 16.04. I had no issues installing OpenVpn and it connects just fine. However, once connected, I do not have the lock symbol indicating VPN is connected. I am not sure if I did something to mess that up or if OpenVPN installed that way as I may have not checked when I first installed. Is there anyway to get the VPN indicator back? I see it flashing during the connection process, just does not stay [00:38] after being connected. [00:58] signing off [00:58] ? [01:49] i am tryint to increase storage om my 32 gb [02:40] has anyone else run into a problem with OpenVPN not showing up in the GUI? [02:47] skeleton1ey go and ask on ubuntu forums / mate forums [02:47] https://ubuntu-mate.community/ [02:51] nomic: in other words...you don't know how to fix it? [02:58] Do you have a gui installed for it? [02:59] yeah I didn't realize you needed the gnome package for mate [02:59] it's good to go [02:59] MATE is formerly Gnome 2 [02:59] Rather a fork of Gnome 2 [03:51] does anyone knows a good website with good HOW TO on linux [03:52] How to what on linux? [03:52] Lets say for intermediate learning [03:54] http://linux-training.be/linuxsys.pdf [03:54] Thanks buddy === james is now known as Guest74189 [04:13] james [04:22] bond [04:23] 007 === phil is now known as Guest51059 === rw is now known as Guest44252 [09:36] Hola [09:37] /join -freenode2 ubuntu-nl-raad [09:38] Hi all :-) [09:39] Does anyone here run a Dell e6430 by any chance?? [10:54] flexiondotorg: Any comment or news on the Arch MATE packages getting updated? [10:56] * flexiondotorg is no longer an Arch Linux TU. [10:56] flexiondotorg: Who is the new maintainer of MATE for Arch? [10:57] There are several people interested. [10:58] flexiondotorg: How or when will the new maintainer be decided? [10:59] I have no idea how any of that works with Arch [11:01] There are two features I'd really love to see added to MATE - maybe they've been added into 1.14? [11:03] First is an easier way to resize windows without having to place your cursor on the exact pixels of a window edge / corner eg by holding a key to make it 'snap' to the nearest edge [11:04] Second, it'd be good if the current window that has focus / foreground status would be highlighted in the window selector menu [11:05] If those arent in 1.14 I'll file some requests [11:06] resizing windows under MATE on a 4K display is quite painful [11:10] danboid, easier resizing is already available in Ubuntu MATE 16.04 using MATE 1.12.1 : hold ALT down while doing a right click on a window quadrant, then drag. [11:12] ouroumov: So it does! Excellent! Thanks for pointing that out [11:13] yw [11:16] I thought 16.04 would have 1.14 - thats a shame [11:16] Why would you think that? [11:16] Not that I really use Ubuntu myself these days [11:16] 1.14 got released before 16.04 [11:17] didn't it? [11:17] obviously not soon enough [11:17] I've written a script to easily install Arch to ZFS btw Wimpy [11:18] https://github.com/danboid/ALEZ [11:19] I'm not entirely sold on Antegros or the way it handles ZFS currently [11:19] hence my script [11:20] It only supports GPT/BIOS currently and doesn't do RAIDZ yet [11:23] Installing to GRUB using MBR and ZFS seems to require a hack currently so I'm not so keen [11:24] It only supports single disk and mirrored configs atm [11:24] Might the 16.10 installer support ZFS? [11:27] My installer creates datasets that work with boot environments and that wasn't the case with Antergos last time I checked [11:39] hi can i get help to install paltalk [11:39] i did installet win [13:09] On the side of one of my monitors there's about an inch of space that goes top to bottom where I can't put icons or maximize windows into. Any idea what would case that? I still see the wallpaper, mouse can move over it no prob, rt click menu shows up if I rt click there... [13:10] staeksauce, are you running unity by chance? [13:11] no, I have Compiz running [13:11] but it does seem like there's an invisible dock or something there [13:12] it behaves just like that [13:12] Mate with Compiz [13:12] Maybe you have one of the docks turned on [13:13] omg, that was it [13:13] lol [13:13] thx [13:30] hi community [13:30] need help with chromium on rpi [13:31] i have install chromium with app welcome and chromium crash at the start [13:34] Check logs for why it crashed [13:38] where i can see this log ? [13:43] Dear all [13:43] I few minutes ago I started with ubuntu mate 16.04 [13:43] It is great ! [13:44] the only thing i miss is a search function in the software boutique [13:44] Am I blind or is this not there? [13:50] christian__, hi [13:50] christian__, subscribe to Welcome Updates. I think that feature has been added recently [13:52] christian__, nevermind It's not in mine [13:52] But from reading the forum I think it's in development or in the process of being added, following multiple requests for the feature from users [13:53] oh that would be great. [13:54] as i started to set up my PC the way I need, it is a pitty to get all the lists to see if there is the apropriate package [13:54] hi tv_ crash logs are usually collected in the folder /var/crash [13:55] i find crash lob [13:55] i apt-get install dependes for see if is good [13:59] christian_ if you ever check the public log, you'll be interested to know that my Welcome version was not up to date. I ran the update and there is now a search feature for the software boutique [14:11] dear ouroumov [14:11] I did a update [14:12] and what should I say : now there is a search function in the upper right corner! [14:12] thanks [14:15] yolo [14:15] yoloy= [14:22] christian__, yup ^^ [14:25] hi, pluma starts, but I can't find the window/window is not created [14:25] it's not created on other workspaces either [15:03] hello [15:28] hi spacey [15:28] spacey, what version of Ubuntu MATE are you using? [15:29] 16.94 [15:29] whoop [15:29] 16.04 [15:29] spacey, what window manager are you using? (check it under MATE Tweak -> Windows) [15:31] marco, uh, non-composite [15:31] sorry, program-composite [15:31] 2nd choice [15:31] not sure of the english translation right now [15:31] It's "software compositor" [15:32] Okay [15:32] did you try starting pluma from the command line? [15:33] yes [15:33] Did you try starting it with the --new-window option? [15:34] no luck [15:34] please run the command "killall pluma" and try again [15:37] still won't create a window.. [15:40] spacey, I need to disconnect for the ride home. Please try switching you WM to Marco+Compton, see if that changes anything. I'll be back. [15:40] :) ok [15:40] You can also ask on the forum for more visibility [15:40] cheers [15:41] cheers [16:13] a? [16:20] B. [16:22] ouroumov: wow, you disconnect your IRC client? [16:25] gordonjcp, on my laptop, yes [16:25] My other machine should still be connected though [16:25] ouroumov: tmux and irssi :-) [16:25] Yeah it's ouroumov_ [16:25] Oh [16:26] Hm [16:26] Yeah but I'm lazy, having to ssh into my server from the bus is u_u [16:29] ouroumov: mosh :-) [16:47] I understand the 16.04 release has been released. Now, how do I get my OS from 2014 to update to it? [16:48] Bokmuske, what's your current ubuntu version? [16:48] check with something like 'cat /etc/issue' on a terminal [16:49] That's why I was a bit vague; caja doesn't tell me. [16:49] OK [16:50] Curiously: Though it sys it's copyright 2014, it's actually 15.04. [16:50] "says" [16:56] hi [16:57] Does that tell you enough? [16:59] ummh, 15.04 is probably your ubuntu version, not when your mate version was compiled [16:59] Anyway, i want to know what you get for running cat /etc/issue on a terminal [16:59] Or if you fear the terminal, open caja, go to /etc with it and tell me what's in a file called issue [16:59] Ubuntu 15.04 \n \l [16:59] Ubuntu 15.04 \n \l [17:00] (Well, only once; I had trouble pasting it.) [17:03] mate 15.04 is out of support in weeks [17:04] 16.04 is the long term release, supported until 2021 I think [17:04] 5 years [17:04] yeah [17:04] No, it's three years [17:04] sudo apt-get upgrade -- you do not even have to log off [17:04] ok [17:05] its not a hellish gamble/nightmare / all night / cannot use your computer -- as with windows 10 [17:05] easy. [17:05] not an issue. [17:05] * nomic did it on my pi3 while playing a movie & continuing to work [17:06] So Bokmuske you need to upgrade to 15.10 first, then from 15.10 to 16.04 [17:06] reboot .. 16.04 [17:06] movie in HD [17:06] so cool [17:06] bbl. [17:07] Yes, I know why I want to upgrade; I just needed to know how. [17:09] If I have to do it in two steps, does apt-get know that? === apessoa is now known as Guest84654 [17:10] http://www.ubuntumaniac.com/2016/01/how-to-upgrade-from-ubuntu-1510-to.html [17:11] Bokmuske, your graphical software updater doesn't propose you to do the upgrade to 15.10? [17:11] How To : Upgrade From Ubuntu 15.10 to Ubuntu 16.04 Xenial Xerus (LTS) [17:11] This graphical software updater being which program, or what option in the menu? [17:13] Bokmuske, I'm not sure of the menu layout but on 16.04 it's under System -> Administration -> Software Updater [17:13] You can also start it from the terminal with the command "update-manager" [17:15] Closest menu option to that tells me the software on my machine is updated or up to date. (Talk about bad translations.) [17:16] Yes, update-manager gets me the same program. No mention of upgrading. [17:16] It's likely this computer is configured to not bother with non-LTS releases, though. [17:17] start it with "update-manager -c" [17:17] But it doesn't tell me about the LTS release either. [17:17] Bokmuske, you know 15.04 is not an LTS right? [17:17] It's a version that is no longer supported. [17:18] Yes, that's why I'm trying to get to an LTS. 15.04 was just a stopgap when I installed the new computer. [17:18] Okay [17:19] Anyway there's a way to start a release upgrade from command line [17:20] sudo apt-get upgrade? [17:20] command is "sudo do-release-upgrade -d" [17:21] WOuldn't the -d get me a developer release, rather than a public one? [17:23] No [17:23] 15.10 is no longer under development [17:23] By that I mean, [17:23] The latest devel release of 15.10 is the actual release of 15.10 [17:24] I've just stuck a hard disk out of a broken laptop into a spare one I had kicking about [17:24] Xubuntu 12.04 [17:25] "stat syslog.1" suggests it was last run 14/8/2012 [17:25] hm, 840 updated packages? [17:25] OK. Let's see if that works, for without the -d it was my first and failed try. [17:26] No new version found. [17:26] ... [17:26] Bokmuske, when's the last time you did a software update? [17:27] Any update at all? Just before trying to upgrade the OS. [17:27] okay [17:27] Well I'm out of ideas for a release upgrade here. [17:28] You don't have a separate /home partition by any chance? [17:29] I expect I have, yes. [17:30] sounds like a clean install is the best bet then [17:30] Bokmuske, please check using the command: lsblk -o NAME,SIZE,MOUNTPOINT [17:30] (paste the result to pastebin or such) [17:32] Sighs. I've been using Ubuntu since C.. C...; why do these LTS upgrades never work the way you expect them? [17:32] Bokmuske, to avoid hardships in the future, please keep up with supported versions of Ubuntu. [17:32] I'm not sure you're supposed to upgrade from one LTS to another [17:33] Then what's the use of LTS-es? [17:33] But this is the first LTS of Mate; there was nothing to keep up with. [17:33] Bokmuske: servers and such, where you don't want to be upgrading frequently [17:33] gordonjcp, yes LTS to LTS updates are supposed to be smooth [17:33] ouroumov_: I've never bothered [17:34] it's easier just to do a clean install [17:34] OK, root is on sda, /home is on sdb. [17:34] Bokmuske, but there was 15.10 you were supposed to update to a while ago [17:34] Bokmuske, I don't know why it wasn't done for your machine. [17:34] Hence the need for a stopgap when I went to MATE instead. [17:34] Bokmuske, maybe you disabled all release upgrades in the software settings or such [17:35] Bokmuske, that's good news [17:35] Where do I find such a setting? [17:35] System -> Administration -> Software & Updates [17:38] OK, it is set to only notify for LTS releases, but I don't see anything about not installing them when asked. [17:39] Well anyway, you better do a clean install IMO. [17:39] Sighs. [17:40] Bokmuske, it shouldn't be too painful since you have a separate home partition [17:41] Do you know how to install the OS with the manual partitioning? [17:41] No, it's more in the how did I do that last time, part, and in the less than user-friendly interfaces of most OS-installers. [17:41] You go to "something else" when it proposes you to erase disk and install [17:43] Yes, I know how to manually partition, or at least, I'll probably recall when I get there. [17:43] You Create two partitions on your SDA: One for / with most of the space of SDA, the other for use as swap with as much space as you have RAM. Then you use the whole /sdb for /home and you make sure not to check the "format partition" stuff [17:44] I'l have to trust that 3,9G is correct for Swap; I don't recall the memsize. [17:45] For some reason it has three partitions as it is now; an sda2 of 1K that I can't recall the purpose of. [17:46] I'd better not use the entire sdb for /home, as I'd wipe out my other partitions if I did. [17:47] swap? [17:47] oldschool... [17:47] Well: [SWAP] [17:48] I don't think I've set up a swap partition in years [17:48] memory is basically free these days [17:48] And yes, my school is some 4 centuries old. [17:49] ah, one of those modern polytechnics? [17:49] :-D [17:50] I think I used a USB stick as a boot disk of sorts last time; does that make sense? [17:50] yes [17:51] yes [17:51] you can boot off USB [17:51] you can actually install onto a USB stick [17:51] So, how will I have gotten the image on the USB to boot from it? [17:51] It's the standard way to do it nowadays [17:51] then you *really* don't want swap, and you want a fastish stick [17:52] Bokmuske, insert your USB [17:52] (Yes, but four centruries ago a stick was made of wood.) [17:52] Bokmuske, Download the .iso of 16.04 [17:52] Bokmuske, With the USB in, type "df -h", identify the /dev/sdX of your USB stick [17:52] booting from USB has been standard for about ten years now [17:53] Then use the command: "sudo dd if=file.iso of=/dev/sdX && sync" [17:53] Then you should be good to go [17:53] ouroumov_: in a few minutes :-) [17:53] Be warned that if you use the wrong /dev/sdX in your dd command, you will nuke your filesystems. [17:54] gordonjcp: Sure, but when you don't live in a mem-factory and have a high-mem non-USB-boot computer, the world looks different. [17:54] Bokmuske: what on earth have you got that can run Ubuntu 12.04 and can't boot from USB? [17:54] what [17:55] Hold on copy and pasting [17:55] gordonjcp, what are you talking about? [17:55] gordonjcp, he's running 15.04 [17:55] 18:54 < Bokmuske> gordonjcp: Sure, but when you don't live in a mem-factory and have a high-mem non-USB-boot computer, the world looks different. [17:55] oh [17:55] okay, 15.04 [17:55] that's worse [17:55] It is. [17:55] wtf can run 15.04 and can't boot from USB? [17:55] It really is. [17:56] I am currently on a 12-year-old Toshiba laptop picked out of a scrpa pile at work [17:56] booted from USB [17:56] gordonjcp, I don't think that's what he meant by non-usb-boot computer [17:56] The 12.04 ran on a machine that had a good set of mem-slots, but not such a good BIOS. [17:57] Okay, maybe it's me that's completely misunderstanding everything [17:57] The 15.04 is what I have on this machine. [17:57] Bokmuske: how far from north-west Scotland are you? Come and take away some Core 2 Duos [17:58] lol [17:58] most have at least 2GB of RAM and an 40GB SATA drive (intended for storing everything on a network server) [17:58] -12 and -5, probably. [17:58] or P4s if you don't mind a high electric bill but wnat to stay warm [17:58] have as many P4s as you like [17:58] gordonjcp, you're one of the guys from MATE on leeds? [17:59] ouroumov_: no, I'm just an enthusiastic user [17:59] I'm a little north of Glasgow, Leeds is in another country [17:59] It would be easier to put the travelling cost in the mem. But, thanks for the mention; if I have money to spare at some point, I'll have a look at mem-upgrades. [18:00] Right, sorry for my poor knowledge of Geography [18:00] Is this going to wipe clean my USB stick? [18:00] Bokmuske, let's say you'll loose everything on it for sure [18:00] So yeah, back it up [18:01] Bokmuske: in all seriousness it's worth spending money on having at least 4GB of RAM and an SSD [18:01] and of the two, if you can only get one get the SSD [18:01] Right. I fear I've used my window talking to you guys, but thanks for the help. Gets me some time recalling what stick I used that apparently had the size and no content. [18:02] Well, considering my SWAP is 3,9, and I have a separate disk for the OS, I expect I have just that. [18:03] "3.9G" for those on the other side of the North Sea. [18:03] Anyway, thanks for now. I'll see if I can make it happen some time later this evening. [18:03] Bokmuske: you would not believe how much of a difference an SSD makes [18:03] Bokmuske, good luck [18:04] Yeah, I think that's what the seller said when we discussed what this computer was going to look like. It's just that once it runs, I live with my choices and tend to forget the details. [18:04] Thanks. [18:07] hrm, i'm not sure i like "apt" more than "apt-get" and friends [18:12] I do [18:12] It's 4 chars shorter ^^ [18:14] apt-get update && apt-get upgrade vs apt update && apt list --upgradable isn't much of a tradeoff for me [18:15] Why don't you just use "apt upgrade"? [18:15] i'll try that next time, i don't recall it showing the packages that were going to be upgraded [18:40] test [18:41] Hello, this is my first time. [18:44] Is this best distory in linux ? [18:45] ahmed: depends [18:46] ahmed: it's far from ideal on a server [18:46] it's pretty good for a desktop [18:57] nice i want to entertainment [18:58] ahmed: maybe you should look at Kodi and indeed Kodibuntu [18:59] although Kodibuntu is more for a PC that will be hooked up to a TV [19:02] really why i should using kodibuntu? [19:33] what themes are compatible with Ubuntu Mate? I'm having no luck with anything I find on gnome-look? === palasso_ is now known as palasso === gerrit is now known as Guest23292 [20:52] Oki doki.... i got a usb condenser mic here now [20:52] but im not able to get it working in ubuntu [20:52] any ideas? [20:52] https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=7tL34TUT2rc <- its the same as this i guess [20:55] uh.. i thought it was running trough USB [20:55] never mind .. haha [20:55] BUT ... i aint got no sound in skype [20:55] happened suddenly [21:24] Hi how do i install skype on ubuntu [21:25] ?? [21:27] Naseem, "sudo apt-get install skype" [21:27] sudo apt-get install skype [21:27] Thanks [21:27] Mate is moving to GTK3 literally days after I was asking about hi dpi screens. xD [21:28] Is it possible to play The division which is a windoes game on ubuntu if so how ? [21:28] The Division Game > [21:28] Does it say it supports Linux? [21:29] It says not compatible [21:29] There you go [21:30] So no 3rd party software to do some majic ? [21:31] hmm... isnt mate already running gtk3? [21:32] I am very new to ubuntu [21:32] sorry whats it means gtk3? [21:35] Naseem, GTK (GIMP Toolkit) is a library for creating Graphical User Interfaces. The library is available under the GPL license. Using this library, you can create open-source, free or commercial programs. The library has the name GIMP toolkit (GTK) because it was originally created for developing GIMP. [21:38] Tried searching in ubuntu software but cant find under the name GIMP toolkit [21:39] Naseem, Are you wanting to install GIMP, or something else? [21:40] I really dont know how it will help me [21:40] I wanted to play some windows games on ubuntu [21:40] thats the idea [21:41] Naseem, GIMP is a graphics package - like "Photoshop" in a way...but that's not what you're trying to do, is it? You're asking about games and the likes, right? [21:41] yeah [21:41] no i dont need any photoshop or photo editor [21:42] May be i should install windows 7 and dual boot [21:42] windows for games and ubuntu for the rest [21:43] I wonder what benefit exactly there will be in packaging parts of mate in snaps [21:43] Naseem, Coolbeans...well, that being said, I'm sure that if you hang out long enough, someone will be along to give you a hand...personally, I don't play games, so I'm not going to be a big help to you...so just be patient...chill out, have a coffee/tea, relax...Oh, BTW, if you haven't done so already, you might want to install "Synaptic" - it's the better software package manager...heaps more detailed and easier to [21:43] customise... [21:45] I wonder if there is a way I could contribute to the move to GTK3 or snaps [21:45] installed it thanks [21:45] I don't have any experience with C, however [21:45] Well, aside from reading it [21:46] now something bit serious [21:46] I'm 99% sure no one has played The Division on linux. [21:46] My harddisk specs are 128 SSD + 1TB Harddisk [21:47] i installed ubuntu on the SSD 128gb today [21:48] Now i would like to know if i install windows on the 1TB will it make problems for ubuntu ? [21:50] Naseem, What version of Windows? [21:50] Windows 7 [21:50] ultimate [21:51] Naseem, http://askubuntu.com/questions/6317/how-can-i-install-windows-after-ive-installed-ubuntu [21:55] Thank u so much [21:55] how do i install torrent in ubuntu [21:55] Naseem, You can buy me a coffee later, bro. [21:55] :) [21:55] Naseem, "Transmission" - "sudo apt-get transmission" --> if it's not already installed... [21:56] E: Invalid operation transmission [21:56] apt-get install [21:56] But it is already there [21:57] My bad...lack of coffee...sorry about that... [21:57] I always forget the verb [21:57] oh yeah its there [21:57] i just search [21:58] apt-cache something. Oh need apt-cache search something. apt-get something. oops meant apt-get install something [21:58] I'd forget my head if it wasn't stitched onto my neck...or bolted...can't remember... [22:00] ok its downloading windows 7 64 bit [22:01] now how do i make it bootable to usb [22:01] You have a valid license for windows right? [22:01] i know to make it legal [22:01] :D [22:01] loader [22:03]