| pitti | arges: thanks | 05:47 |
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| caribou | pitti: yes ? | 07:12 |
| pitti | caribou: I meant I had a question for you in bug 1532789 | 07:14 |
| ubot5 | bug 1532789 in multipath-tools (Ubuntu Trusty) "Trusty multipath-tools suffering seg faults" [High,Fix committed] https://launchpad.net/bugs/1532789 | 07:14 |
| cking | hi there, stress-ng 0.6.04-1 has been stuck in autopkgtest testing for ppc64el for ~4+ days in the "Test in progress" state (looking at the update_excuses page). I think it needs some kicking | 08:15 |
| jamespage | pitti, I think its important that we maintain interim Ubuntu release until the end of their life - one reason being that they are actually the primary source for Ubuntu Cloud Archive pockets, so if we stop maintaining Ubuntu two months prior to eol, then I have to start maintain the same packages directly in the UCA for 2 months extra :-) | 09:37 |
| jamespage | pitti, crmsh is a bit of exception to that rule as its not in the UCA, however ovs and ceph both are... | 09:38 |
| jamespage | pitti, for UCA updates, we push through the associated ubuntu release first (on the assumption its still supported) | 09:38 |
| jamespage | so for OpenStack Liberty UCA, Wily is still the point for entry for updates... | 09:38 |
| pitti | jamespage: wow, we have production stuff running on wily? | 09:39 |
| jamespage | pitti, that's not quite what I said | 09:39 |
| jamespage | pitti, we have production stuff running on trusty based on the packages that are in wily | 09:39 |
| jamespage | pitti, UCA is just one huge backport | 09:40 |
| jamespage | :-) | 09:40 |
| pitti | jamespage: ok, fair enough; I just wanted to ask if all that effort was actually useful, and it does seem to be a major risk for users on actual wily | 09:41 |
| jamespage | pitti, well for crmsh wily users are completely broken atm | 09:41 |
| pitti | jamespage: right, so for the crmsh case: who will actually care | 09:41 |
| jamespage | pitti, I was all up for the 'no one is going to actually use wily for production' but then a load of people commented on that bug... | 09:42 |
| pitti | jamespage: i. e. who will start using wily for crmsh now that xenial is out | 09:42 |
| jamespage | thats true now, but was not the case two months ago when I did the updates, testing and upload... | 09:42 |
| jamespage | pitti, tbh i think people where testing on wily in preparation for xenial | 09:46 |
| pitti | yeah, that seems plausible | 09:47 |
| jamespage | pitti, from my perspective, most of the work is already done in terms of time, so I'd rather see it through... | 09:47 |
| pitti | jamespage: so you want ceph, curtin, maas, openvswitch | 09:47 |
| jamespage | and be happy stating that we did support wily for 9 months | 09:47 |
| jamespage | pitti, can't comment on maas and curtin, but yes please to ceph and openvswitch | 09:47 |
| pitti | jamespage: the verification work of this is going to be substantial too, I suppose | 09:47 |
| pitti | jamespage: ok, and I guess we bury crmsh? | 09:48 |
| jamespage | pitti, for crmsh? no the testing is automated - we know its broken (wily-liberty is currently disabled...) | 09:48 |
| jamespage | infact the testing is automated for ceph and ovs as well | 09:48 |
| pitti | jamespage: I mean for ceph, curtin, etc. | 09:48 |
| jamespage | curtin/maas - defer to server team on that front... | 09:48 |
| pitti | jamespage: we have automated tests that check that an upgrade from a current wily deployment still works? | 09:48 |
| pitti | as that's what actually matters | 09:49 |
| pitti | we know that the new versions by themselves are fine (presumably) | 09:49 |
| pitti | but we are throwing that at existing users of the wily version | 09:49 |
| jamespage | pitti, yes | 09:49 |
| jamespage | deploy/test/upgrade/test | 09:49 |
| jamespage | basically | 09:49 |
| jamespage | pitti, I stand corrected - that's not fully automated, but is a cycle we go through for SRU's | 09:51 |
| jamespage | but its still not resource intensive | 09:51 |
| arges | pitti: i'm trying to understand your comment on the wily SRU review queue. isn't wily supported until july? | 11:27 |
| pitti | arges: it is, yes | 11:28 |
| pitti | arges: and we shuold certainly continue to supply major bug fixes | 11:28 |
| pitti | arges: but I wonder if "update a server package to a major new release" makes sense at this point | 11:28 |
| pitti | the testing and risk by far outweigh the benefit IMHO | 11:28 |
| pitti | arges: that said, see backscroll from jamespage a few lines up | 11:29 |
| arges | pitti: fwiw some of the server packages go into wily then into cloud archive | 11:29 |
| pitti | yes, he pointed that out | 11:29 |
| pitti | so accepting these is fine | 11:29 |
| pitti | arges: but I think we should bury crmsh | 11:29 |
| arges | oh ok : ) yea i need to increase scrollback on weechat | 11:29 |
| arges | yea that seems like a bit jump anyway | 11:30 |
| Odd_Bloke | infinity: I see you've commented again on https://code.launchpad.net/~daniel-thewatkins/livecd-rootfs/enable-backports/+merge/295059; have you had a chance to re-review it fully? | 13:48 |
| Odd_Bloke | infinity: Oh, I see you're not working; don't worry about it! | 13:49 |
| infinity | Odd_Bloke: Nah, I'm still off work until tomorrow, that was just a side comment to ogra's comment. | 13:49 |
| infinity | Odd_Bloke: I'll get you all reviewed and merged tomorrow (or later today if this whole laying around on drugs thing threatens my sanity). | 13:49 |
| Odd_Bloke | infinity: Cool, thanks! | 13:49 |
| Odd_Bloke | infinity: Enjoy your stupor! | 13:50 |
| infinity | Odd_Bloke: Once this is tested and proven, is the intent to backport to xenial for 16.04.1? | 13:50 |
| infinity | (and maybe trusty too, though meh...) | 13:50 |
| ogra_ | lol | 13:50 |
| Odd_Bloke | infinity: Yeah, definitely for xenial. | 13:50 |
| ogra_ | 2011 ? | 13:50 |
| ogra_ | woah | 13:50 |
| infinity | ogra_: Yeah, it's okay, I was as surprised as you. Old people don't deal well with change. | 13:51 |
| ogra_ | lol, yeah | 13:51 |
| infinity | Odd_Bloke: Kay. Let's make sure that ball gets rolling as soon as this is landed in yakkety and a few builds appear to produce sane results. | 13:52 |
| infinity | Odd_Bloke: For now, I'm high on Oxy and going to movie myself to sleep. | 13:53 |
| ogra_ | "oxi brings movies to your sleep" :) | 14:03 |
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