[05:24] cremora minora [05:28] Môre oom [05:29] koud ne [05:33] Bibberend [05:56] hi inetpro nlsthzn paddatrapper theblazehen skokkk et al [06:23] hi Kilos [06:43] deegee where are you now, and hows things going [07:09] morning Kilos mazal theblazehen and others [07:09] hi chesedo [07:14] Mornings [07:17] hey mazal. How's things? [07:18] ok thanx and you theblazehen ? [07:19] I'm fine thanks mazal [07:21] sup all... [07:38] goeiemore [07:40] hi chesedo [07:40] goeie more inetpro [07:41] dinge amper in plek sodat jy wiki can edit [07:41] is it midweek already? [07:41] ya wednesday [07:42] i go sort sheep [07:42] wbb [07:42] Maaz watch them [07:42] OK Kilos I'll keep an eye on them for you [08:04] Man I am having a "flat" week. [08:05] Feels like the batteries just aint there [08:20] mazal: That sucks.. [08:20] hey nlsthzn, inetpro [08:22] old age [08:27] * mazal glares at Kilos [08:27] Is from not gaming enough I am sure [08:27] lol [08:41] And oom keeping me up late with meeting :P [08:49] hahaha [08:49] at least you have someone to blame [08:49] i blame inetpro for everything [09:07] hey tahaan [09:17] hi tahaan ambo_ Sxuza aquarat [09:17] oops [09:26] Hello all [09:27] hi [09:27] I'm going back to 14.04 [09:27] I'd rather not say what I'm concidering , oom Kilos will kill me [09:27] Oh too late , he left [09:57] 14.04 is rock stable [09:59] mazal not back to win [09:59] i will kill you [10:00] inetpro ping [10:01] Ek's honger [10:01] lol [10:01] maaz what's for lunch [10:01] mazal: Go get Chippies, your friends will love you [10:01] ooooo , nice idea , with russians [10:01] nee man [10:01] Why not ? [10:01] weet jy nie wat chippies is nie [10:01] Slap chips [10:02] chippies is picled onions [10:02] Oh hell noooooooooooooooo [10:02] die beste van al die make [10:02] maaz bad idea [10:02] mazal: Sorry... [10:02] baie lekker met bacon kips [10:03] of enige sout coekies [10:03] maar vis en chips is goed vir lunch [10:03] chesedo ? [10:07] Kilos ? [10:07] https://wiki.ubuntu.com/ZATeam/Meetings/20160628 [10:08] 'immutable page' [10:08] tick on it [10:09] Tick? [10:09] or check more actions [10:09] i forget how to get there [10:09] inetpro ^^ [10:10] * chesedo does nor have a touch screen :P [10:10] Kilos: edit mode? [10:10] hmm... [10:13] you not on pc chesedo ? [10:15] Feedback for what it's worth , if I go in there I have an edit option. ( if that is what you guys tried to fix ) [10:15] i forget what you gotta do to change from immutable to edit [10:15] yes mazal [10:16] I just logged in with my openid [10:16] wat maak chesedo [10:16] If not logged in then it's immutable for me [10:16] oh yes you gotta login [10:17] * chesedo will be at pc soon, but am sure he was/is logged in [10:18] ok [10:20] yip am logged in -> http://pasteboard.co/1brw7z8L.png [10:28] inetpro fixit [10:29] i think i ticked on immutable page or other options to get it going back then when i was young [10:34] Goeiemore Kilos did you have a good meeting? [10:34] Hi guys [10:34] yes ty Langjan [10:34] Good [10:34] Did you write to the Aussie? [10:34] not yet [10:35] go pm [10:35] ai [10:35] go pm? [10:35] lol [10:35] private message ooom [10:42] wat het jy gebreek Langjan [10:42] I tried to install her husband's HP printer, thinking the network should pick it up but it doesn't [10:43] clever guys can help with that [10:43] Thats why I asked you [10:43] ive seen then sort it [10:43] nee man [10:43] kyk my epos adres [10:43] 'n liegadres [10:44] haha [10:44] seker vir sekuriteit, slim! [10:44] mazal what experience with printers and ubuntu [10:44] ubuntu and hp are friendly to each other i think [10:45] is he online? [10:45] Mine is fine [10:45] who? [10:45] hp/ubuntu [10:45] mazal, [10:45] where is the printer [10:45] he is afk atm [10:45] haha [10:46] maybe working for a change [10:46] its by her hubbies desktop, linked via desktop switch [10:46] afk atm? [10:46] away from key board at the moment [10:46] so now [10:47] is that what faint name shows? [10:47] who cant see the printer [10:47] yes [10:47] susan's machine [10:47] theblazehen help [10:48] Langjan just dont listen if he says install fedora [10:49] but he should be able to help [10:49] he is a clever kid [10:49] My adsl router is cable-connected to desktop switch in their home from where they are both connected [10:50] so her ub untu cant see it on the switch right there by them [10:51] and the printer is connected to his win xp system [10:51] ai! [10:51] well I tried to find it but no success [10:52] win needs to share it i think [10:52] tried via hp-install and hplip [10:52] I checked the settings, it seems ok to share printers [10:52] im right saying you need to go through xp to see the printer ? [10:53] yes [10:53] sjoe [10:53] hang around for someone with that kinda experience [10:54] ok thks [10:54] you can install remmina i think its called [10:54] then [10:54] haha [10:54] she can take over his pc completely [10:55] dont tell Juanita please [10:55] lol [10:57] I saw a neat hdd docking station this morning, the guy bought it for R370 [10:59] what is that [11:00] like with severs with place for many drives? [11:01] Connects to usb, then you can insert two sata hdd's [11:01] ah [11:05] Fedora was my very first intro to Linux [11:05] then you woke up [11:06] no went to kde before that [11:06] sjoe [11:06] lmga [11:06] you should be teaching me [11:06] haha [11:07] i tried centos [11:07] sjoe [11:07] no thanks [11:07] never heard of it [11:07] based in redhat i think [11:08] many use it for servers [11:08] Doesnt look too bad https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/CentOS [11:08] better than windoze [11:08] of course [11:08] but many are saying win 10 is great [11:08] i wont even try [11:09] horses for courses [11:09] ja [11:09] i gotta go eat [11:09] whats the closest linux distro to emulate win xp desktop ? [11:09] OK chat later, eet lekker [11:10] dankie [11:22] Langjan, when it comes to looks they say you can't get better than http://zorinos.com/ [11:22] Based on Ubuntu but with modified de's that makes it look more like when , basically to make it easier for newcomers to linux [11:23] I never used it myself , but a friend mine says you can change the de look to be like XP or 7\ [11:23] Ok many thakns mazal [11:34] mazal [11:34] tell him how to share that printer man [11:35] wb aquarat [11:35] Lekker ge-eet Kilos? now its my turn [11:35] hi anton_may [11:36] enjoy [11:36] ello [11:36] hi anton_may [11:37] Hi Langjan [12:38] good afternoon [12:41] 0/ [13:03] hi magespawn and anton_may [13:04] you there Kilos ? [13:12] Kilos ping [13:12] need to wake him up sometimes [13:14] get him away from the sheep [13:15] Guys, who is the networking geek? [13:17] i can try help [13:19] Thanks, I have connected a friend to my adsl via cable, on the other end connected 2 systems from a desktop switch, now trying to install their printer [13:19] The printer is working on a win xp machine, the other is ubuntu 14.04 [13:20] I cannot see the printer from ubuntu, not via hp lip nor terminal hp-install [13:24] is the printer shared on the xp machine? [13:27] yes [13:29] same network with the same ip address range? [13:29] Langjan: is this a network printer, or a printer attached to a computer? [13:30] Thats where Im lost, how to get ip address. superfly it is only connected to the one computer [13:31] Langjan: a network printer connects directly to the network [13:31] if it's connected to a computer, it's not a network printer [13:31] i assume that the printer works on the xp machine? [13:31] thats what I was trying to confirm [13:31] yes it does [13:32] Langjan: you have a network cable plugged into the printer? [13:32] no, lmga [13:32] then it's not a network printer and hplip won't find it [13:33] network cable from the switch? [13:33] yes [13:33] so I need to connect a third network cable to the printer from the switch [13:34] Langjan: does the printer have a network port? [13:34] Will have to check but I assume yes [13:35] its a hp all-in-one 2050 [13:35] let me folow up on that and I will get back if I dont come right [13:35] thanks guys [13:38] np [13:38] i don't think it is a network printer [14:02] magespawn, you're quite right, theres no socket for a network cable [14:02] Is there any other way around? [14:11] if it has been shared from the windows machine then you should be able to connect to that share from the ubuntu machine [14:17] Langjan: you need to open your system settings, go to printers [14:17] Langjan: add a printer, and then select "Windows Printer via SAMBA" [14:26] Many thanks superfly I will have to proceed tomorrow. Will let you know how things go. [14:45] sjoe [14:46] major ballie nap [14:46] sorry guys [15:35] chat later home time [15:35] go safw [15:35] ai! [16:01] Kilos: i am able to edit the agendas now... just logged out and back in again [16:06] hey mates [16:28] yay chesedo [16:29] that means inetpro cant get out of doing some work [16:29] hi kulelu88 [16:30] Kilos: why don't you apply for a remote job at canonical [16:30] chesedo: hows exams mate? [16:32] kulelu88 dont add more [16:32] and they are all clever peeps [16:34] you can do marketing/community work Kilos . you'll get paid [16:34] getting paid is bad news [16:34] then you cant mess up [16:35] now only i fight with me [16:36] hi kulelu88, great (am now 'off' till the 8th) ty... hows your todo going? [16:41] haven't worked on it for a while chesedo [16:42] when do you finish? [16:42] kulelu88: 15th for this semester [16:42] you work also? chesedo [16:44] kulelu88: hmm... try to create time between studies for freelance work [16:44] probably better to load up your github profile chesedo ;) [16:46] kulelu88: yeah that too [16:46] * chesedo just started to spent his nights on the office suite that he wants to create [16:47] chesedo: what's your language of choice? [16:47] I would avoid a project as big as office software [16:49] kulelu88: i am used to web devel (php, js, etc), but am trying to target ubuntu phones now (qt, c++, js, qml) [16:50] kulelu88: might be a bit big, but it will focus on 'professionalism through simplicity'... only targeting text documents for now [16:51] no wonder the todo app is easy peezy for you chesedo :D [16:51] you trying to get a canonical job also? :D [16:54] kulelu88: yeah, that was bit weird for me too... nope, just want a user app devel future and this is the start [16:58] chesedo: the main problem with the code now is that I need to find a replacement for the inlineedit.js, cause it's outdated [16:59] and I've adjusted the todo format, so I will refactor the "x" append [16:59] kulelu88: i've used xEditable for a past project (though it might be too big for this) [17:00] this 1 here: https://vitalets.github.io/x-editable ? [17:01] i go eat [17:01] inetpro read your mail [17:02] kulelu88: yip [17:03] I'll see if there are smaller options [17:03] but if I need that, well that's what I'll use [17:11] Kilos, this meeting.. [17:12] I only got the email 2PM THIS AFTERNOON [17:12] for yesterday's meeting :/ [17:30] good evening [17:30] lol skokkk [17:31] where did that mail get lost for a day [17:33] so magespawn hows the new job so far? [17:34] chesedo what was your original nick [17:34] im sure i have you email addy saved under that nick [17:35] Kilos: pieter2627 [17:35] oh ya [17:38] no more nick changing [17:40] Kilos: going well so far, getting a handle on it [17:40] good [17:41] got lost coming home last night, and the phone was flat, so had to wait while it charged [17:41] eish for the gps to work [17:41] i use my phone, but i have that sorted now [17:41] i got lost many times in jozi [17:42] terrible place [17:42] it has been while since i drove it, but it is all coming back bitby bit [17:42] sjoe [17:43] nothing much changes really, taxis still drive like made, bmw dont have indicators [17:43] and mercs own the right of way as well [17:43] s/made/mad [17:43] yup pretty much, altough most of them seem relaxed [17:44] haha [17:44] they have been taught by the taxis that they arent the most important peeps on the road [17:47] they used to stay clear of my beetle, maybe i should get one of those again [17:47] haha [17:57] goos evening [17:57] Kilos: why? [17:57] goos evening to you too [17:57] why what [17:57] magespawn: whats your new job? [17:58] oh inetpro the new mattermost can work on irc i think it says [17:59] then why are you not testing it? [17:59] im waiting for you [17:59] haha [18:00] i went to mattermost in browser but i used it of the standard pc drive so dunno name and password i used here on the ssd [18:01] click on forgot password [18:01] i dont even know what mail i used man [18:02] not like you have 10 addresses [18:02] https://mattermost.popey.com/reset_password [18:02] and there is something about a desktop app so i fetched the .deb but cant start it [18:04] kulelu88: support at a fibre isp in jhb [18:04] i have 5 i think, or maybe more, only 4 active [18:06] oh my [18:07] i found i still have mattermost in another browser [18:09] but it also wants password [18:09] ai! [18:09] oh inetpro you can edit wiki pages now hey, you should have read that a couple of times today [18:10] ooh support gig. that sounds painful magespawn [18:13] kulelu88: not too bad so far, got one of the flagged customers today and that went [18:13] most just learning my way around the systems [18:14] is it fibre ISP as in, you guys provide support for FTTH, or is it a company like Afrihost? [18:19] ISP,so like afrihost,but only fibre and voip [18:22] ooh lekker, must be a startup type company [18:24] about 5 years old, but yes very much like that, part of what attracted me [18:24] that and they offered me a job first [18:25] Do they need someone to manage their servers remotely? :D [18:25] lol [18:27] ohi superfly [18:27] do not know, but i will keep my ear to the ground ;) [18:27] such a quiet sneak in [18:28] how do you even know Kilos? [18:28] know what [18:28] when superfly is here [18:28] oh i see the afk go away [18:28] ohh he is using /away and /back [18:28] right [18:29] i see the nick ungray [18:29] indeed, irssi does not have that, so i forget about that [18:29] Kilos sees the enter and leave messages [18:29] when we have many peeps here he is off the bottom of the screen and i miss seeing it then he mocks me [18:29] no messages [18:30] superfly is very rarely not here [18:30] maybe i must try set that up [18:30] you don't need to. just adjust your settings to show enter/leave messages [18:30] does that cover the afk things [18:31] i see part/joins [18:31] but away things not [18:33] whatever happened to that guy that had me thinking he was a chick when i first joined here [18:33] ive chased many away [18:34] did you guys cyber date for a while? Kilos :D [18:34] no man [18:35] when i joined here i said guys all the time [18:35] then i said well i hope the ladies dont mind me calling them guys [18:36] and he pmed me and said no its ok [18:36] only later when i learned a bit more did i see he was a guy [18:36] hehe [18:37] i was really doff back then [18:39] im sure half of you would have left [18:41] nah was not that bad [18:42] haha, it was magespawn [18:42] ? [18:42] we need to organise a flamewar again, then everyone flocks here [18:43] yes it was bad [18:43] thats why inetpro and superfly are so quiet nowadays [18:43] Kilos: no [18:44] no what? [18:45] it was me? really? [18:46] no man magespawn he means it was that bad [18:47] magespawn do you need to study for the new job [18:47] any courses and stuff? [18:48] no courses,those i do myself, just hit the ground running and learn by doing [18:48] inetpro: seems very moody these days. Het julle rol? [18:48] plenty ofhelp around though [18:48] sjoe [18:49] I bet it was vim vs. emacs argument [18:49] he is getting old man [18:49] hmm... [18:49] i think he is the closest to me here [18:50] hoe oud? inetpro [18:50] in the naughty years [18:51] heading for the thrifty years [18:51] vim is best [18:51] ne goosie [18:51] ah theblazehen woke up [18:51] Hi Kilos [18:51] Work's been busy.. [18:52] did you have a busy day lad [18:52] Just saw that message, had to chime in :) [18:52] busy is goofd [18:52] Still busy Oom [18:52] good [18:52] all you can do is your best lad [18:52] Yeah [18:53] you can tells Kilos is a durbanaartjie using 'lad' :D [18:54] haha [18:54] i know laatie as well [18:54] python vs any other programming language [18:54] theblazehen: sublime? [18:55] not exactly the same thing [18:55] i wish this debconf would be over now [18:55] ibids crying for attention [18:56] debconf is huge. oh wait, isn't it happening now? [18:56] soon [18:56] next mongth but all the preparation is taking years [18:57] magespawn: Sublime isn't too bad, but doesn't work over ssh (Okay, *technically*....) [18:57] And python [18:59] inetpro the password rest doesnt send a mail [19:00] i tried three times [19:00] theblazehen: what do you write in Python? [19:02] kulelu88: Mostly just scripts for doing stuff. Not any proper applications [19:03] hmm... [19:03] https://gist.github.com/441108ba950bad91e73bd152696e8777 partially broken hangman solving script [19:03] scripting-wise, it's awesome [19:03] /usr/share/dict/words is the word list [19:03] Wanna fix it? ;) [19:04] i'll take a look in a few minutes [19:06] theblazehen: the script solves hangman? [19:06] magespawn: Tries to [19:06] ahh right [19:06] You can just copy paste in the letters part from hangman (6) too :) [19:07] mattermost.popey.com/6667 [19:07] ai [19:08] magespawn how did you point you irc client to mattermost [19:08] i dont understand the pointing thing [19:08] add them to the network [19:09] is it a mattermost server? [19:11] i followed the instructions in the mail i got forwarded from popey via Kilos [19:12] in irssi i do /connect mattermost.popey.com [19:12] * theblazehen (and andrewlsd I think?) think we should have chosen mattermost over rocket.chat at work.. :( [19:13] oh mattermost the slack clone [19:13] yes magespawn but what is meant by pointing the irc client to it [19:13] The mobile client for rocket.chat isn't that great :( [19:14] the login for me was the email address [19:14] it means you must join their server [19:15] sounds like they're running a mattermost network [19:15] open a new server tab and type what magespawn said [19:15] yes then you can see all the room etc in irssi rather than the browser [19:16] [21:16] [481] Kilos Permission Denied - You're not an IRC operator [19:16] sigh [19:16] thanks kulelu88 i forget that other people have different clients [19:17] what did you type Kilos ? [19:17] that /connect one [19:18] lemme try with new server [19:18] Kilos: Looks like your irc client sends the server CONNECT command [19:18] Try /server perhaps? [19:18] thats it theblazehen, forgot that too [19:19] that is how we got Kilos on atrium the other night [19:21] ai! [19:21] too much [19:24] it works with quassel [19:24] I added a new network with host 'mattermost.popey.com' and port '6667' [19:24] and then after connecting I simply executed '/msg mattermost login my@email.address MyMattermostPassword' [19:24] ok lemme try again [19:25] hi. [19:26] theblazehen2: ack [19:27] How [19:27] hmm [19:27] sjoe [19:27] Was IRCing with telnet [19:30] theblazehen: where does the script break? [19:30] kulelu88: Doesn't break, but near the end it gets non-optimal guesses [19:31] example? theblazehen [19:31] like -ampl-, it would think that there is a 0 possibility of e (not sure if it thinks it's already tried that) or similar [19:32] so it will try a word like ampl? [19:33] hangman will ask for example, script will solve to -ampl-, but not guess the e [19:33] "you can also use an ssl connection on port 6697" [19:34] are there any libs or bindings and is it python2? theblazehen [19:34] theblazehen: telnet? [19:35] too many channels now [19:35] inetpro: No thanks.. [19:35] kulelu88: Python 2 yes, and no. Just that script and cop-paste to the hangman game from bsd-games [19:36] okay so it's using a legit game [19:39] I was going to attempt replicating the environment, but that could take hours [19:40] i am off to bed, good night all [19:41] sleep tight magespawn [19:41] i must crash as well [19:41] 2 late nights the pro has inflicted on me [19:42] night all. sleep tight [21:46] anybody still awake here?