[00:00] <acheron_uk> if I limber up on my git skills before the dojo, I may not have nightmares ;)
[00:00] <clivejo> I dont think the Dojo will get to git stage to be honest
[00:01] <clivejo> are you coming along?
[00:02] <acheron_uk> think I better. just to be on safe side
[00:02] <clivejo> it be great to have you there, your LP setup is still fresh in your head!
[00:02] <acheron_uk> I figured that would be a fair bit of it.
[00:02] <clivejo> I cant even remember setting mine up
[00:04] <acheron_uk> enigimail being grumpy with my new gpg key was the only problematic bit
[00:05] <clivejo> I really need to look into fixing these mergers Im being blamed fro breaking
[00:06] <acheron_uk> NOT even going there
[00:06] <clivejo> eak 01:06 I should get some sleep!
[00:06] <acheron_uk> ditto
[00:07] <clivejo> good night all
[00:07] <acheron_uk> a very final good night I think
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[08:01] <rbn64> hello all
[08:04] <rbn64> I have a problem installing a packet from kubuntu-backports and I'd like to warn and help about it. It is kde-l10n-ca. How should I proceed?
[08:14] <acheron_uk> https://bugs.launchpad.net/kubuntu-ppa/+bug/1584766
[08:14] <valorie> rbn64: not quite on-topic for the channel, but what is your error message?
[08:15] <rbn64> dpkg: error processing archive /var/cache/apt/archives/kde-l10n-ca_4%3a15.12.3-0ubuntu1.2~ubuntu16.04~ppa2_all.deb (--unpack)
[08:16] <rbn64> trying to overwrite '/usr/share/locale/ca/LC_SCRIPTS/ki18n5/ki18n5.js', which is also in package libkf5i18n-data 5.22.0-0ubuntu1~ubuntu16.04~ppa1
[08:18] <acheron_uk> same as the bug I just posted then
[08:18] <valorie> ah, that's a bit too complicated for me, rbn64
[08:18] <valorie> so you filed that BR?
[08:19] <valorie> oops, I should go to bed
[08:19] <rbn64> Yes, I see this bug is about this error. No, I didm't fill that bug.
[08:20] <valorie> ok, please add your input and mark that you are also affected
[08:20] <valorie> thanks for finding that, acheron_uk
[08:20]  * valorie heads to sleep
[08:21] <rbn64> Thank you, I'm going to add it.
[08:21] <acheron_uk> you can cd to /var/cache/apt/archives/ and do a 'sudo dpkg --force-overwrite -i kde-l10n-ca_15.12.3-0ubuntu1.2~ubuntu16.04~ppa2_all.deb'
[08:22] <acheron_uk> that will force the file to overwrite for a temp fix your end allowing you to install it
[10:18] <clivejo> oh dear
[10:18] <clivejo> clivejo expired from team
[10:43] <clivejo> acheron_uk: if you want to fix any of those KCI failed builds, post a pastebin of the git diff and some one of us will check it and commit it 
[11:10] <BluesKaj> Hiyas all
[11:42] <soee> clivejo: http://dilfridge.blogspot.com/2016/05/akonadi-for-e-mail-needs-to-die.html
[13:46] <clivejo> soee: yeah I seen that last night
[13:47] <BluesKaj> hey clivejo
[13:48] <clivejo> hi BluesKaj
[13:48] <BluesKaj> how's it going today, clivejo?
[13:49] <clivejo> wet
[13:49] <BluesKaj> yeah, same
[13:49] <clivejo> but I got my ears lowered and had lunch in town with some family
[13:50] <BluesKaj> nice  ;-0
[13:50] <clivejo> and the weather is to improve after today, so cant complain
[13:50] <BluesKaj> oops,  i meant  :-)
[13:51] <BluesKaj> much needed rain here....forest fires flaring up N of us 
[13:52] <BluesKaj> think it's gonna be a smokey summer
[13:52] <clivejo> smokey?
[13:52] <clivejo> yofel: ping
[13:52] <BluesKaj> it's a joke, smokey the bear 
[13:53] <clivejo> I dont get it :/
[13:54] <BluesKaj> the US forest service has a cartoon character called smokey the bear dressed like a firefighter 
[13:54] <clivejo> oh
[13:54]  * clivejo is Irish
[13:55] <clivejo> no bears in the woods/forests here
[13:55] <BluesKaj> but it's kind of a joke in Canada 
[13:55] <clivejo> just fairies and wee the wee folk
[13:55] <BluesKaj> hehe'
[13:57] <BluesKaj> and if you see one , it's supposed to bring luck . right?
[13:57] <mamarley> "Only you can prevent forest fires."
[13:57] <clivejo> depends which one you see
[13:59] <clivejo> you dont want to hear or see the Banshee
[14:49] <soee> any idea how to get rid of some audio noice/crackle when recording with simplescreenrecorder ?
[15:28] <acheron_uk> clivejo: maybe, though the amount of those failures is scary. I'll certainly have more time next week if not
[16:42] <clivejo> a lot of them are silly LP errors
[16:43] <clivejo> failing on missing build deps then LP taking forever to publish
[16:44]  * mamarley kicks LP.
[16:47] <clivejo> mamarley: are you coming to the Dojo?
[16:47] <mamarley> clivejo: What's that?
[16:50] <clivejo> getting started with packaging and helping out in Kubuntu
[16:50] <clivejo> http://kubuntu.org/news/kubuntu-dojo-ninja-developer-training/
[16:51] <clivejo> starting in about an hour
[16:51] <pekkari> clivejo: I'd be interested in joining, can you let me know how?
[16:51] <mamarley> clivejo: Sorry, I am at work. :(
[16:52] <clivejo> we will be using the Big Blue Button  - http://kubuntu.blindsidenetworks.net/kubuntu/
[16:54]  * soee thinks it is impossible to record clear sound :<
[16:55] <clivejo> Rick will be doing presenter and so fore
[16:56] <pekkari> clivejo: fine thanks!
[17:00] <pekkari> clivejo: seems it requires a password, if it's not a problem to share it later it will be great
[17:01] <clivejo> password it just "welcome"
[17:03] <acheron_uk> presumably it works fine with NPAPI flash in Firefox?
[17:03] <clivejo> Ive had problems with sound in FF
[17:03] <clivejo> I use chrome 
[17:04] <acheron_uk> may use that then. not a problem
[17:05] <pekkari> clivejo: fancy pass, but hey, thanks!
[17:05] <BluesKaj> clivejo, the freshplayer/pepperflash -plugin doesn't work in FF so i switched to chrome which has the proper version, some sites that use html5 work fine on FF tho
[17:06] <clivejo> FF works, but I have issues with the sound in BBB
[17:06] <clivejo> chrome just seems to handle it better
[17:06] <BluesKaj> BBB?
[17:06] <clivejo> Big Blue Button
[17:06] <BluesKaj> oh
[17:06] <acheron_uk> their demo video uses chrome, so seems obvious choice
[17:07] <BluesKaj> FF flash plugin is outdated , it's been a problem for awhile now
[17:08] <mamarley> I call it "Adobe Crash" sometimes.
[17:08] <acheron_uk> sooner it's gone for good the better
[17:15] <DarinMiller> trying to join the Ninja training BBB room.   Is the pwd user specific?
[17:19] <clivejo> password is just welcome
 Hello Friends 😃
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[17:23] <pekkari> seems I'm having troubles with the audio too
[17:27] <pekkari> nevermind, no problem
[17:28] <acheron_uk> Can hear OK. I've no microphone or webcam so that is a none issue here
[17:43] <jimarvan> hello here! :)
[17:43] <clivejo> hi jimarvan
[17:43] <jimarvan> how are you guys?
[17:44] <clivejo> good, thanks you?
[17:44] <jimarvan> good looking forward for the dojo :D
[17:47] <clivejo> jimarvan: http://kubuntu.blindsidenetworks.net/kubuntu/ password is welcome
[17:47] <jimarvan> omw
[17:47] <jimarvan> trying to install flashplugin for chromium
[17:48] <BluesKaj> jimarvan, use chrome instead , you'll have more luck
[17:48] <jimarvan> haha ye i see that
[17:48] <jimarvan> no worries i will use firefox for now
[17:48] <acheron_uk> not sure. I long ago just gave up and started using the full chrome
[17:48] <jimarvan> and I will try later to fix chromium
[17:49] <jimarvan> ;)
[17:49] <BluesKaj> FF is worse , it's flashplugin is old and doesn't work on a lot of flash using sites
[17:52] <acheron_uk> it works on what I need to be honest, which is not much nowadays
[17:58] <nairwolf> Hi, how it's possible to follow this course ? https://www.kubuntu.org/news/kubuntu-dojo-ninja-developer-training/ 
[17:58] <nairwolf> I need a password apparently
[17:58] <clivejo> welcome
 Just rebooting, sorry for the delay
[17:58] <clivejo> the password is welcome
[17:59] <nairwolf> oh, ok, thank you ;)
[17:59] <nairwolf> firstly, I thought courses was at #kubuntu
 I think I'll be about 5 minutes, please apologise on my behalf, I'll be there just as soon as I can
[19:25] <jimarvan> awesome guys 
[19:43] <acheron_uk> that was useful to get acquainted with a few people :)
[19:45] <valorie> boo, missed the dojo
[19:45] <valorie> is it recorded somewhere?
[19:46] <clivejo> yes, but needs editing
[19:46] <acheron_uk> technical probs mean didn't get that far on the actual set-up packaging side
[19:49] <valorie> a little bit is better than nothin'
[19:57] <clivejo> hopefully get the bugs ironed out and get on to some real hardcore packaging :)
[20:01] <acheron_uk> hopefully I can find some time to get stuck into the docs
[20:02] <clivejo> acheron_uk: just be mindful that the docs are a _little_ outdated
[20:02] <soee> this all should be much easier
[20:04] <acheron_uk> I really mean some of the more generic packaging docs. I know the kubuntu specific stuff is not all up to date
[20:06] <clivejo> yeah, we need a big blue packaging button
[20:07] <clivejo> saying "Click me"
[20:07] <clivejo> and come back an hour later to everything packaged and ready to install via the archive
[20:08]  * acheron_uk wonders at such a pipe dream
[20:09] <valorie> I wouldn't like that
[20:09] <valorie> I want to know how everything is constructed
[20:10] <valorie> the fun of lego is figuring out what you want, and building that
[20:10] <acheron_uk> exactly. black boxes have their uses, but I end up prying the lid off
[20:26] <jimarvan> back
[20:27] <jimarvan> big blue packing button :D 
[21:15] <clivejo> acheron_uk: ^^
[21:15] <clivejo> its now unstable!!
[21:51] <soee> uhm
[21:52] <soee> KDE has no official desktop recording app :(
 Yep OBS is great though
 Then use kdenlive to edit
 :)
[21:52] <soee> OBS ?
 Open broadcast software
[21:53] <soee> btw. ahoneybun there was a patch for Tomb Raider released today thay might fix some performance issues for you :)
 It has a Linux version
 Really?
[21:53] <soee> http://news.softpedia.com/news/tomb-raider-2013-1-1-1-patch-released-for-linux-and-steamos-with-improvements-504531.shtml
[21:55] <ahoneybun> that might help
[21:56] <ahoneybun> optimizations is the word I'm looking for
[21:56] <ahoneybun> since I have better hardware
[21:56] <soee> :)
[21:57] <ahoneybun> I switched to NVIDIA and going to update then testr
[21:57] <ahoneybun> *test
[22:06] <ahoneybun> soee someone has a GTX 970 and still says it is disappointing
[22:06] <soee> :(
[22:07] <ahoneybun> that should blow that game out of the water
[22:07] <soee> but GF 1080 :D
[22:07] <soee> *buy
[22:07] <ahoneybun> it would run GTA5 fine
[22:07] <ahoneybun> soee that thing costs more then my idea build lol
[22:07] <soee> i knnow
[22:08] <ahoneybun> XD
[22:08] <ahoneybun> trying it out now
[22:08] <soee> i think we cant expect pretty nice performance on linux atm
[22:08] <soee> maybe if they would use Vulcan
[22:08] <soee> but still i doubt
[22:08] <ahoneybun> maybe
[22:12] <ahoneybun> still not amazing here
[22:12] <soee> :/
[22:12] <ahoneybun> runs nothing like on Win
[22:13] <ahoneybun> and this has better CPU and GPU
[22:40] <acheron_uk> clivejo: Unstable = better but no cigar?
[22:40] <clivejo> acheron_uk: still problems
[22:44] <acheron_uk> From the KF5Wayland warning in the console output, I presume this from the buildlog http://paste.ubuntu.com/16720097/
[22:45] <acheron_uk> ie.e needs the -dev package pulled in
[22:46] <clivejo> yup
[22:46] <clivejo> do you know what package?
[22:49] <acheron_uk> apt-file find KF5WaylandConfig.cmake
[22:49] <acheron_uk> kwayland-dev: /usr/lib/x86_64-linux-gnu/cmake/KF5Wayland/KF5WaylandConfig.cmake
[22:50] <acheron_uk> locally here anyway, so kwayland-dev assuming the same for the repo it can pull that from
[22:50] <clivejo> Hint: http://packages.ubuntu.com - Use the second section "Search the contents of packages" put in the filename and check the "packages that contain files whose names contain the keyword " and search 
[22:50] <acheron_uk> so add as build dep I presume
[22:50] <clivejo> yup
[22:50] <clivejo> you could have problems if you havent the package installed locally
[22:52] <acheron_uk> I've run afpt-file update, so it's downloads the file lists, even for packages not installed locally
[22:52] <clivejo> this might actually build new files!
[22:52] <clivejo> ah cool
[22:52] <acheron_uk> but, yes, some source don't have those lists so a local search has limits
[22:53] <acheron_uk> suppose it might. grr...
[23:32] <clivejo> acheron_uk: ^^^  Congrats!
[23:34] <valorie> weeeeee
[23:35] <soee> ~.~
[23:59] <clivejo> grrr
[23:59] <clivejo> here we go