[01:09] <rodolfojcj> hello everybody
[01:10] <rodolfojcj> does someone know if the History tab of KMenu in Kubuntu 16.04 has some kind of sorting settings ?
[01:10] <rodolfojcj> I tried to find them without luck
[01:10] <rodolfojcj> it seems to me the applications entries in that history are ordered by usage frequency
[01:11] <rodolfojcj> but I would like to order them by most recently used
[01:58] <mattfly_5> hello
[01:58] <mattfly_5>  kubuntu users
[01:58] <valorie> hello mattfly_5
[01:58] <mattfly_5> :)
[01:59] <mattfly_5> for some reason i've lost the audio levels system tray, the volume indicator and level
[01:59] <mattfly_5> i could get it back after installing kmix, but it is not the same that ir was before
[02:00] <mattfly_5> on kubuntu 16.04
[02:00] <mattfly_5> is there any tip to get it back?
[02:02] <DarinMiller> mattfly_5: Sounds like you accidently deleted your system tray.  Ensure widgets are unlocked an add the system tray widget to the panel.
[02:03] <DarinMiller> mattfly_5: let me know if you need a more detailed "how to"
[02:09] <mattfly_5> no i don't
[02:10] <mattfly_5> thanks for the help, i didn't removed the system tray. I was messing arround with pulseaudio and when i saw the speaker icon disappeared from the system tray
[02:13] <DarinMiller> mattfly_5: did you uninstall PA (pulse audio)?
[02:13] <mattfly_5> i did reinstalled it
[02:13] <mattfly_5> reinstall*
[02:14] <mattfly_5> isn't there a program (e.g a mixer) that is that icon?
[02:15] <mattfly_5> llike, when i installed kmix a new icon appeared
[02:15] <DarinMiller> PA now replaces kmix, so you should not need kmix.
[02:15] <mattfly_5> pulse audio?
[02:15] <mattfly_5> hm
[02:15] <mattfly_5> weird
[02:15] <DarinMiller> Right click on the system tray, and select system tray settings
[02:15] <mattfly_5> i did
[02:16] <mattfly_5> there's only the kmix mixer
[02:16] <DarinMiller> On the General tab, check or recheck the audio volume option.
[02:17] <mattfly_5> yeah, but there is no audio volume option
[02:17] <mattfly_5> but PA is intalled, my sound is working and i rebooted twice after it
[02:18] <DarinMiller> On the Entries tab, ensure Audio volume is set to Auto...
[02:18] <mattfly_5> yes it is
[02:19] <DarinMiller> Hmmm.  try removing the panel entirely and re-add a new default panel.
[02:21] <mattfly_5> i removed kmix from the system, removed the panel and readded it
[02:21] <mattfly_5> there aren't aby refenrence to audio anymore in the system tray or in its configurations
[02:22] <DarinMiller> OK, just a sec.  Checking my packages for a PA widget....
[02:23] <mattfly_5> o gee
[02:23] <mattfly_5> plasma segmentation fault
[02:23] <mattfly_5> am i the only one who get so many seg faults while making changes in plasma?
[02:24] <DarinMiller> I don't make many changes in plasma, but after 16.04, plasmas 5.5.5 and up, plasma has been very stable.
[02:24] <DarinMiller> I did start with a clean install of 16.04.
[02:25] <mattfly_5> me too
[02:25] <DarinMiller> found it.  Install the plasma-pa widget....
[02:25] <mattfly_5> with changes i mean, dealing with widgets and thing
[02:25] <mattfly_5> oh
[02:25] <mattfly_5> ok
[02:26] <mattfly_5> lol
[02:26] <mattfly_5> now my cursor desappeared
[02:26] <mattfly_5> hahaha
[02:26] <DarinMiller> LOL.
[02:26] <DarinMiller> You are not having a good day.
[02:27] <mattfly_5> i must be the most bugging user
[02:27] <mattfly_5> oh, it reapeared!
[02:28] <DarinMiller> open a terminal and retart plasma (killall plasmashell && plasmashell &)
[02:28] <mattfly_5> i do this a lot
[02:29] <DarinMiller> ensure to close the terminal by typing exit. If you click on the X to close the window, the plasma session will die.
[02:29] <DarinMiller> What video card?
[02:29] <mattfly_5> i use nohup
[02:29] <mattfly_5> yeah, i was using nvidia 740M
[02:29] <mattfly_5> with nvidia-340 drivers
[02:29] <mattfly_5> But i trunned it off
[02:29] <mattfly_5> turnned*
[02:29] <mattfly_5> back to intel
[02:30] <DarinMiller> OK.
[02:30] <valorie> pavucontrol might be useful alongside/instead of plasma-pa
[02:31] <valorie> I've found it useful in the past
[02:31] <DarinMiller> yes, pavucontrol is also useful
[02:31] <mattfly_5> i ha ve it
[02:32] <mattfly_5> have**
[02:32] <mattfly_5> hehe, i was trying to create a duplex device when i messed up with pulseaudio and the icon
[02:32] <mattfly_5> to send like, mic audio and another program audio at the same time as a mic input
[02:33] <DarinMiller> If you have both a microphone and speakers, duplex is valid.
[02:33] <mattfly_5> wonders if there was a easier way
[02:33] <DarinMiller> The PAVU utility is the only way I know to combine all inputs.
[02:34] <mattfly_5> Thanks Darin !!
[02:34] <mattfly_5> i got the original icon back now
[02:34] <DarinMiller> np :)  Good to hear!
[02:34] <mattfly_5> i have both mics and speakers
[02:35] <mattfly_5> how to combine the inputs to like, send music and me talking to skype and have isolate audio levels control?
[02:36] <mattfly_5> actuallt i need that for mixxx
[02:36] <mattfly_5> I want to interview someone from skype
[02:45] <DarinMiller> PAVU allows control by device and  application.  Try using Audacity as your recording medium and PAVU will show Audacity on the recording tab when Audacity is recording.
[02:47] <DarinMiller> You may want to mute or dramatically lower your mic gains.
[02:47] <mattfly_5> and?
[02:52] <DarinMiller> During the recording, I recommend selecting Monitor of built in audio Analog stereo on the PA VA recording tab. You can only select this when the recording is enabled.
[02:56] <mattfly_5> ok
[06:08] <tarnegar> hi
[06:09] <tarnegar> :-*
[06:13] <hangman13us> Guys, is there anyone using Viber x64 on Kubuntu? I have a system crash every time I try to load the application. It said it was installed successfully but every time I run it... something goes wrong.
[06:13] <hangman13us> :/
[06:21] <akshat_> Hello.  I am new to open source and want to start contributing. How do I start?
[06:22] <pepee> hangman13us, what is Viber?
[06:23] <pepee> hangman13us, also, you could debug the crash by reading your system logs from another computer, through the network
[06:24] <pepee> akshat_, guess you could start by finding crashes and submitting patches
[06:24] <pepee> or adding features, and so on
[06:24] <hangman13us> hi pepee. Viber is VoIP application (gained some market share from Skype) It works on mobile devices and the ID is linked with the number of your phone
[06:25] <akshat_> @pepee Which type of application should I choose to contribute?
[06:25] <hangman13us> http://www.viber.com/en/
[06:26] <pepee> that's... interesting, actually
[06:26] <pepee> hangman13us, system crash as in, the computer locks up?
[06:27] <hangman13us> Sorry I made a mistake. Not my whole system. Only Viber App.
[06:27] <pepee> ah
[06:27] <hangman13us> It doesn't start at all. I re-installed few times.
[06:27] <pepee> well, the suggestion is to google any error messages that you can see
[06:27] <hangman13us> Used to work with previous versions of Viber.
[06:28] <hangman13us> It is well hidden btw. only shows the directory I used for it.
[06:28] <hangman13us> And at some point stopped showing it at all. I just press the icon and nothing happens.
[06:29] <hangman13us> just wanted to see if someone else is using this s***t
[06:29] <hangman13us> and am I the only one experiencing this problem.
[06:30] <pepee> hangman13us, I'd ask in #ubuntu too
[06:31] <hangman13us> This is the oddest bit. Viber says it is fully compatible with Ubuntu. And the app even exists in the repository.
[06:31] <hangman13us> Kubuntu must be similar but I cannot find any valid pack and I manually install it. Then it goes wrong. Will try Ubuntu as well.
[06:33] <hateball> pepee: You could ask in #kubuntu-devel
[06:33] <hateball> hangman13us: do you get any feedback if you run the app from a terminal?
[06:34] <hangman13us> Not really. I'm not so familiar with the terminal.
[06:34] <hangman13us> How do a start an application in there?
[06:36] <hangman13us> hateball, I used "<program name> &"
[06:37] <hateball> hangman13us: open Konsole, start typing viber and press tab, it should complete the name if it's not simply "viber"
[06:37] <hateball> hangman13us: or try "locate viber" first to see where it is
[06:38] <hangman13us> It seems to be in "/opt/viber"
[06:38] <hangman13us> And when I simply use the name of the app it returns information with "\" and combinations of digits and letters like:
[06:39] <hangman13us> u0432\u4324 and etc.
[06:39] <hateball> !paste | hangman13us
[06:40] <pepee> hateball, ask what?
[06:41] <pepee> oh, that was for akshat_
[06:41] <hateball> pepee: oh, yes
[06:41] <hateball> my bad
[06:42] <hateball> Too much blood in my caffeeine system
[06:43] <pepee> hehe
[06:44] <hangman13us> took a while to make it: http://imgur.com/gLRfO9J
[06:45] <hangman13us> hateball, ubottu - this is the return from trying to launch the Viber through my konsole.
[06:45] <hateball> uh... that looks broken
[06:46] <hateball> hangman13us: try running: /opt/viber/Viber
[06:46] <hateball> exactly like that
[06:46] <hangman13us> I'm not even sure I installed it correctly :/ will try
[06:48] <hangman13us> hateball you're right: http://imgur.com/XFBgmo5
[06:49] <hangman13us> But can this be because I run Kubuntu and not Ubuntu? I don't think KDE will screw it up...
[06:49] <hangman13us> Just can't be. Most likely I failed to install properly.
[06:49] <hangman13us> And I installed and removed it few times already. Maybe just the release is wrong.
[06:50] <hateball> hangman13us: eh... is that from Konsole?
[06:50] <acheron_uk> seems to run here
[06:50] <hangman13us> yes
[06:51] <hateball> hangman13us: What GPU/driver are you using?
[06:51] <hangman13us> Hm. I'm not such an expert... sorry.
[06:51] <hangman13us> I just installed Kubuntu and updated it with all I found in I-net.
[06:51] <hangman13us> and installed few applications I'm using.
[06:51] <hateball> hangman13us: run this in a terminal "lspci -k |nc termbin.com 9999"
[06:52] <hateball> and give us the resulting url
[06:52] <hateball> hangman13us: And you are on 16.04 ?
[06:53] <hangman13us> http://termbin.com/tj20
[06:53] <hangman13us> 15 I think the LTS version (whatever the latest LTS was).
[06:53] <hateball> 16.04 is current LTS, 14.04 is older
[06:53] <hateball> hangman13us: what does "cat /etc/issue" say?
[06:54] <hangman13us> 14.04
[06:54] <hangman13us> 14.04.4 LTS \n \l to be precise.
[06:54] <hateball> hangman13us: alright, then try "sudo apt-get install libqt5gui5" then run Viber again
[06:54] <hangman13us> maybe time to upgrade?
[06:55] <acheron_uk> certainly runs here on 16.04 - or a least launches seemingly ok
[06:55] <hateball> !ltsupgrade
[06:55] <hateball> googling suggests it's built against qt5 libs which are default not installed in 14.04
[06:56] <hateball> hangman13us: so try installing the package above ^
[06:56] <hangman13us> hateball, I did. It gives the same message as before.
[06:56] <hangman13us> The one with the \u and digits.
[06:56] <hateball> hangman13us: try re-installing the viber package
[06:56] <hangman13us> okay
[06:57] <acheron_uk> also seems to have it's own bundled qt5 libraries
[06:59] <hangman13us> guys, I remove it.
[06:59] <hangman13us> If I have the pack viber.deb in my downloads folder I should be able to install it using: sudo apt-get install VIBER
[06:59] <hateball> hangman13us: No
[06:59] <hangman13us> But it always says cannot find it.
[07:00] <hangman13us> and I install it with the package manager.
[07:00] <hateball> hangman13us: apt works against the repositories. if you want to sideload packages you use "sudo dpkg -i package.deb"
[07:00] <acheron_uk> the dependency list in the package is very short, so they may have built it just assuming something a bit newer than 14.04
[07:00] <hateball> running ldd against it would tell
[07:00] <hateball> I do not have a 14.04 machine to test with myself tho
[07:01] <hangman13us> Do I have to use full path to the *.deb file?
[07:01] <hangman13us> as it says no such file or directory.
[07:01] <hateball> hangman13us: In case you are not in the files directory, yes
[07:02] <hateball> cd ~/Downloads
[07:06] <hangman13us> THank you guys. MAybe it seems strange for people more advanced than myself but now I cannot tell if it has finished the job or not...
[07:06] <hangman13us> http://imgur.com/MauPbt6
[07:06] <hangman13us> Should be completed I guess.
[07:09] <hangman13us> It works fine at the moment, thou I'm not sure what actually we did. I assume I've repeated the same steps I did on my own earlier. I used the graphic way thou.
[07:10] <hangman13us> But the update bit was what I didn't complete earlier. And it seems this fixed it.
[07:10] <hangman13us> Missing library I assume?
[07:12] <hateball> hangman13us: Yes, the missing Qt5 library
[07:12] <hateball> hangman13us: so you are saying the application starts fine now?
[07:13] <hangman13us> Thanks hateball, I will read this now: http://packages.ubuntu.com/trusty/libqt5gui5
[07:13] <hateball> hangman13us: basically it is files needed by the Viber application to render a GUI
[07:13] <hangman13us> And thanks for your patience I know I'm a noob at the moment but trying to get more familiar with Linux and use it better.
[07:13] <hateball> hangman13us: That's what we are here for :)
[07:13] <hangman13us> I see.
[07:14] <hateball> Everyone is a beginner at first
[07:14] <hangman13us> I know, but many people drop it before they get closer to Linux so they use it on their own.
[07:14] <hangman13us> ;)
[07:46] <samuele> Hi, I have a problem. I added the kubuntu backport ppa but now I want to return to the default app version. So I want to downgrade the applications and to remove the ppa. I tried with the command ppa-purge but when I wrote in the terminal this command "sudo ppa-purge ppa:/kubuntu-ppa/backports" the output of the terminal was this
[07:46] <samuele> Updating packages lists
[07:46] <samuele> PPA to be removed: /kubuntu-ppa backports
[07:46] <samuele> Warning:  Could not find package list for PPA: /kubuntu-ppa backports
[07:46] <samuele> I don't know what to do now
[07:48] <acheron_uk> needs to be 'sudo ppa-purge ppa:kubuntu-ppa/backports'
[07:49] <acheron_uk> you have a / that shouldn't be there
[07:56] <samuele> Many thanks!. It was a silly problem luckyly. It seem to be resolved now
[07:56] <samuele> ( ﾟヮﾟ)
[10:16] <ttomovcik> Anyone from CZ/SK?
[10:19] <hateball> !cz | ttomovcik
[11:10] <BluesKaj> Hiyas all
[12:03] <otjura> how glitchy has 16.04 been for ya'll?
[12:12] <yossarianuk> otjura: once I updated Plasma to 5.6.4 its been great
[14:13] <viewer|92272> hey
[14:13] <lordievader> o/
[14:21] <viewer|92272> i have a question
[14:22] <BluesKaj> then ask
[14:24] <viewer|92272> how can i minimize my tabs
[14:24] <viewer|92272> in my panel
[14:31] <BluesKaj> tabs in the panel...what tabs ?
[14:35] <viewer|92272> i mean tabs of tasksbar
[14:35] <BluesKaj> viewer|92272, is this a language problem, perhaps you're using the wrong word?
[15:06] <youzi> you ren me
[15:07] <youzi> wo de xi tong gang zhuang hao zen me liu lan qi yong bu liao
[15:07] <youzi> bang mang a
[15:08] <youzi> wei shen me liu lan qi yong bu liao a
[15:08] <youzi> da bu kai lian jie
[15:10] <Pici> !zh | youzi
[17:04] <slawek> hello
[17:06] <slawek> I'm an dumbass, and I've deleted my repositories for Kubuntu 16.04 list w/o making a backup, you can congratulate me
[17:07] <slawek> I'm looking for a list of repositories for hours, but it's hard to find, especially for Polish edition
[17:08] <slawek> does anybody has any hint where I can find those?
[17:11] <marco-parillo> slawek: Have you tried this?
[17:11] <marco-parillo> https://repogen.simplylinux.ch/
[17:14] <slawek> marco-parillo: sure, but they are rather for ubuntu than kubu
[17:15] <slawek> isn't that an issue?
[17:15] <slawek> they might differ somehow
[17:15] <marco-parillo> I would see what that tool generates for Ubuntu XX and compare it to my Kubuntu YY version.
[17:15] <marco-parillo> http://paste.ubuntu.com/16712060/
[17:17] <BluesKaj> slawek, no they are the same  repos , your desktop determines the packages
[17:18] <slawek> BluesKaj, marco-parillo, ok, thats's clear - lots of thanks for help :)
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[17:43] <jimarvan> hello there! :)
[19:48] <Bundestrojaner> good evening
[19:50] <Bundestrojaner> nvidia released a new driver (361.45), when will it be available in the driver manager?
[19:52] <BluesKaj> Bundestrojaner, does nvidia say the driver works with our gpu? if so just run sudo apt install nvidia-361
[19:53] <BluesKaj> your gpu rather
[19:53] <Bundestrojaner> BluesKaj: yes, they list it for my gpu on their site
[19:53] <Bundestrojaner> but i don't want to download it there
[19:53] <acheron_uk> it is in the driver ppa already I think https://launchpad.net/~graphics-drivers/+archive/ubuntu/ppa
[19:54] <Bundestrojaner> acheron_uk: this file says "For GeForce 6 and 7 series GPUs use `nvidia-304`" why?
[19:54] <Bundestrojaner> nvidia lists 361 for my 670
[19:55] <BluesKaj> Bundestrojaner, i wasn't recommending you download it from nvidia
[19:55] <Bundestrojaner> BluesKaj: i know
[19:55] <Bundestrojaner> you recommended to install it with apt-get
[19:56] <acheron_uk> geforce 6/7 cards are not the same as 600/700 series
[19:56] <BluesKaj> Bundestrojaner, theymean the 6000 series not 600
[19:56] <Bundestrojaner> ok, got it
[19:56] <Bundestrojaner> they really mean the 6000-series from 2004
[19:57] <Bundestrojaner> thx
[19:57] <BluesKaj> my 8400 GS still uses the 340
[19:57] <Bundestrojaner> so i shall install it with apt-get install nvidia-361?
[19:58] <acheron_uk> I'm on a 7xx (re-branded 6xx) and the 361 or 364 driver is fine
[19:58] <Bundestrojaner> i'm still on 352, but wot flickers since 9.15
[19:59] <Bundestrojaner> the forum says, the new nvidia-driver fix it
[19:59] <Bundestrojaner> btw: really strange that windows and linux have similar bugs...
[20:04] <Bundestrojaner> BluesKaj, acheron_uk: so i shall install it with apt-get install nvidia-361?
[20:07] <BluesKaj> Bundestrojaner, if you have the ubuintu-graphics-ppa then you'll get the newest 361, otherwise you'll get the 361 default version
[20:08] <Bundestrojaner> ok, thx!
[20:16] <Bundestrojaner> is it possible to upgrade a 14.04 lts to the newest non-lts?
[20:17] <Pici> Bundestrojaner: not easily, but why wouldn't you want to move to 16.04?
[20:18] <Bundestrojaner> Pici: it didn't offer the update yet
[20:20] <Pici> Bundestrojaner: it won't automatically offer the update until July 21st
[20:20] <Pici> !ltsupgrade
[20:24] <Bundestrojaner> ubottu: but i don't need a lts
[20:24] <Bundestrojaner> Pici
[20:25] <Pici> Bundestrojaner: its a real pain to upgrade to a non-supported release.  Since Ubuntu does not allow skipping releases for non-ltses, you'd need to upgrade to 14.10, then to 15.04, then to 15.10... which will reach its end of life in July anyway, so you would then upgrade to 16.04.
[20:27] <Pici> !eolupgrade
[20:30] <Bundestrojaner> Pici: ok. so i update to 6.04 lts next. can i update from it to the next non-lts release?
[20:30] <jimarvan> hi, does anyone know if there is going to be a new AMD catalyst release for ubuntu 16.04?
[20:31] <Pici> Bundestrojaner: if you meant 16.04, then yes, you can, but 16.10 won't be released until October
[20:31] <Pici> Ubuntu release numbers are based on the YEAR.MONTH of release
[20:32] <Bundestrojaner> Pici: i just don't want to stay at 16.04 lts till next lts release
[20:33] <Pici> Bundestrojaner: thats fine. Just be aware that non-lts releases now are only supported for 9 months, so you'll need to be on-top of upgrading as new releases become available.
[20:33] <Bundestrojaner> Pici: no problem, i will do upgrades when they become available
[20:34] <Bundestrojaner> Pici: my question was only: can i upgrate from an lts to a non-lts release
[20:34] <Bundestrojaner> so i upgrade to 16.04 lts and then to 16.10 non-lts?
[20:35] <Pici> Bundestrojaner: yes
[20:35] <Bundestrojaner> Pici: thx :)
[21:07] <wolferz> If someone could help, I'd greatly appreciate it. My Distribution Upgrade has hung, I cannot terminate the process using system monitor. I have lost access to dolphin file manager, and sudo apt-get update returns following error at the end: E: Could not get lock /var/lib/dpkg/lock - open (11: Resource temporarily unavailable)
[21:07] <wolferz> E: Unable to lock the administration directory (/var/lib/dpkg/), is another process using it?
[21:07] <wolferz>  
[21:11] <andy123> wolferz: how do you know its hung?
[21:12] <valorie> !silent
[21:14] <wolferz> because when I click on it, there is no screen, just an image of whatever was in front of it before I brought it back to the front, and it only had 12 minutes left when it hung, but it has now been over an hour, and not once has information redisplayed on the window andy123
[21:14] <andy123> it it using cpu still?
[21:15] <wolferz> system monitor states Name, Username, PID, TTY, Niceness, CPU %, CPU Time, IO Read, IO Write, Virtual Size, Memory, Shared Mem, Relative Start Time, Command, X11 Memory, Window Title
[21:15] <wolferz> , root, -1, 28781, , 0, 0, 0, 0, 0, 0, , 0, 0, , 0, Distribution Upgrade
[21:15] <wolferz> oh that didn't work, sorry
[21:16] <wolferz> CPU is unknown
[21:16] <wolferz> username is root, -1
[21:16] <wolferz> memory and shared memory is blank
[21:18] <andy123> wolferz: I'm not sure how long the upgrade is supposed to take
[21:19] <andy123> it can take well over an hour, depending on your system and packages
[21:19] <wolferz> It was going great, it downloaded everything hours ago, installed, I think it was on configure, it was right before the cleanup step, and only had 12 minutes remaining over an hour ago.
[21:20] <wolferz> It also broke the dolphin file manager, I cannot access my filesystem with dolphin, and I think it uninstalled kodi as well
[21:21] <andy123> well, probably the critical phase of the upgrade is already done then
[21:21] <andy123> can you reboot and see the dpkg status?
[21:27] <wolferz> I cannot reboot from the kde menu, I can try from terminal if you think it will boot back up? When I attempt to sudo dpkg --configure -a it states database is locked by another process, advise how to proceed?
[21:28] <genii> That means wait a little while and then try the command again. Odds are automatic updates are running in the background, it will free up once that finishes