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Fudgeit's always in the last place you look04:07
willcookeo/08:00
Laneyyello08:04
flexiondotorgMorning08:05
flexiondotorgTrevinho, Thanks for the tip on G+, I'll have an experiment :-)08:05
seb128hey willcooke Laney flexiondotorg08:12
flexiondotorgo/08:12
willcookemorning all08:12
seb128bah, http://people.canonical.com/~ubuntu-archive is still 50308:12
Laneyweird08:16
seb128I mentioned it on #is earlier08:17
seb128but restarted after upgrades and forgot to rejoin08:17
seb128unsure if somebody picked it up, still not working though08:17
seb128Laney, is it 503 for you as well?08:17
sarnoldyeah, being investigated08:18
Laneyseb128: it is back08:20
seb128Laney has magical powers!08:21
seb128Laney, what did you do?08:21
Laneynothing08:21
Laneysomeone else fixed it08:21
Laneybut I took their credit08:21
LaneyI guess they restarted apache though, because it wasn't running before and is now08:22
* Laney tries to get laptop back working ._.08:24
seb128what's the issue?08:30
seb128your upstart/dbus/systemd hacks/experiments?08:30
Laneyit's all pitti's fault!08:30
seb128yeah, he's hidding in shame08:30
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seb128happyaron, hey, how is the n-m works/updates/srus going? ;-)08:52
happyaronseb128: doing the vpn plugin things08:54
seb128happyaron, k, do you think you are going to get those ready today?08:54
happyaronwill that work for tomorrorw? or do we do sru on fridays?08:55
seb128happyaron, are those updates that complex?09:03
seb128happyaron, we can upload on friday, then up to SRU team, they are usually fine getting things in proposed on friday09:04
seb128but they are not going to copy over to updates on friday next week09:04
happyaronnot so complex, but I'm going off from work today soon... (17:06)09:06
happyaronI can give them to you before you start tomorrow09:07
happyaronseb128: well I'll give you most of them later today after dinner09:11
seb128happyaron, tomorrow is fine, just trying to understand what is blocking them, it's some work but shouldn't take 10+ days, but I'm probably overlooking some complexity?09:12
happyaronjust trying to get all the vcs stuff done altogether09:13
happyaronand nm is not the only thing I'm doing...09:13
seb128happyaron, you should update your trello :p09:15
happyaronk..09:15
seb128happyaron, sorry I don't mean to stress you, I just want to see those moving, if you are busy on other things maybe I can help with that round of nm updates?09:16
seb128happyaron, or maybe we need to shuffle priorities, unsure what other things you work on and if they are higher priority that the nm stable update SRU09:16
seb128willcooke, ^09:16
happyaronwell I think it's sort of my problem, i.e. in the time of switching to procedures I'm not familiar with09:17
seb128right, fair enough, learning curve09:18
seb128I guess I was expect that we do the SRUs as easy/debdiff updates09:18
seb128then you take time to see how you want to adjust the workflow etc for y09:18
seb128I was expecting*09:18
willcookeyeah, let's get the SRUs out of the way, and then we can work on upstreaming patches etc etc09:19
seb128but if you rework the vcs and learn the packages it takes time indeed09:19
happyaronfor what I'm doing is trying to get everything sorted in a single try without doing things again, not expecting that we need SRUs so quickly09:19
seb128happyaron, well, you said yesterday that vpn&co plugins don't work in the LTS due to version mismatch ... that's sort of an important issue I think?09:20
happyaronyep, and I expected to give that to you tomorrow. for our timezone it's nice that I work in the morning and later when you EU guys are up I'm in the afternoon.09:21
seb128yeah09:23
seb128happyaron, thanks Aron, enjoy your dinner ;-)09:23
seb128happyaron, tomorrow is fine, let's stick to that09:23
happyaron:)09:23
happyaronbut yeah I'll avoid fridays for sru09:24
seb128that's better09:24
seb128but not the end of the world09:24
seb128as said we can get them in proposed09:24
seb128they are just not going to be copied after the week09:24
seb128but on the monday after, so we just extend the testing period09:24
happyaronunderstand, but for stuff that's not working, let it migrate quicker could be better09:25
seb128yeah, we can argue with the sru team to move it earlier if it's well tested09:27
seb128speaking of which do you know if anyone from kde testing their regression with the nm in proposed?09:27
seb128that's still not moved over09:27
seb128unsure why09:27
happyaronI only talked with the uploader of that update once in bug comments, let me help to test that if things is not moving this weekend09:29
seb128k09:33
seb128can you maybe ping him again if you know where to find him?09:34
seb128thanks09:34
happyaronok09:34
seb128ok, I'm going for early lunch before having a solid afternoon work then ;-)09:35
seb128bbiab09:35
happyaronhave a nice lunch, :)09:36
seb128thanks!09:36
Fudgehow do people import mbox files from the ubuntu mail archives into thunderbird?09:55
Fudgeyay I found an extension10:18
andyrockhey all10:20
willcookemorning andyrock10:28
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hikikoandyrock, Trevinho when you have a moment could you get a look at this branch: https://code.launchpad.net/~hikiko/unity/unity.shadows-on-existing-pixmaps/+merge/284068 it's getting too old... ;-)10:31
andyrocksure10:31
hikikothanks!10:31
seb128hey andyrock hikiko!11:23
hikikohey seb128 :)11:24
hikikoandyrock, are there any instructions on how to use metacity with unity?11:25
hikiko(is this possible?)11:25
andyrockhikiko: without compiz?11:25
hikikoI don't know, which are the options?11:25
hikikoI remembered you used metacity to see if a bug was coming from compiz or not11:26
andyrockhikiko: it's not possible11:26
andyrockthere is the standalone version of unity11:27
andyrockbut without window management11:27
hikikooh I see you can't combine compiz compositor with metacity window manager then11:27
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Laneyexciting12:09
LaneyI haxed dbus-daemon to activate all the things using systemd12:09
Laneyit seems to even vaguely work12:10
Laneyfor apps too12:10
LaneyMay 26 13:09:20 nightingale dbus-daemon[2639]: Activating via systemd: service name='ca.desrt.dconf-editor' unit='dbus-ca.desrt.dconf-editor.service'12:10
LaneyMay 26 13:09:20 nightingale systemd[2613]: Starting DBUS1: ca.desrt.dconf-editor...12:10
LaneyMay 26 13:09:20 nightingale dbus-daemon[2639]: Successfully activated service 'ca.desrt.dconf-editor'12:10
LaneyMay 26 13:09:20 nightingale systemd[2613]: Started DBUS1: ca.desrt.dconf-editor.12:11
seb128Laney, so it makes anything dbus activate looks like a systemd job?12:23
seb128do they need to ship an unit for that?12:23
Laneynein12:24
Laneythat's what broke my laptop yesterday12:24
Laneythere's a generator12:25
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seb128the generator create the systemd units?12:27
Laneyyes sir12:27
seb128I see12:27
seb128cool!12:27
seb128no p_itti until monday to cheers though12:27
* Laney is going to be off monday too12:28
Laneybank holiday12:28
seb128oh12:28
seb128enjoy! :-)12:28
Laneymay is a weird month12:28
Laneyall countries have them at different times12:28
seb128yeah, we also have our share of holidays12:28
seb128but few of them are synced between countries it seems12:28
seb128right12:28
Laneyreal europe counts as one country :P12:29
seb128canada has monday, germany today, you have monday12:29
seb128haha12:29
desrtsaluton, karaj12:29
seb128hoi desrt12:30
Laneywhat up homeslice12:30
desrtnot very much is "happening", my l33t dudes12:30
* desrt makes a contorted face12:31
desrtknow what i hate?  how some people put the orange pair first when terminating an rj45 connector.  WHY?!12:32
Laneywhite and orange orange white and green blue white and blue green white and brown brown12:33
desrtaka "the wrong way"12:33
LaneyNO YOU12:33
Trevinhohikiko|ln: no you can't mix them... You can just use decor which + gtk-windoiw-decorator which uses metacity for theming, but not mixing the WMs12:33
desrtblue is pair 1 -- in the centre12:33
desrtorange is pair 2 -- surrounding the centre12:34
Trevinhohikiko|ln: as for that branch, I've some work in progress with it... I'll try to get it done ASAP12:34
desrtgreen to the left, brown to the right12:34
LaneyI never actually managed to make a working cable12:34
* desrt makes them all the time -- except for last night12:34
desrt>:|12:35
Laneycome over and do mine12:35
Laneywant to run it up the outside of the house12:35
desrtgot conduit?12:36
hikiko|lnthanks Trevinho, did you find a bug? because I've tested it with edge-case windows (eg those blob-shaped ones that change in real-time) and it seemed to work well12:37
Trevinhohikiko|ln: I had crashes when adding/readding borders to chrome, but I also did some code optimizations around12:37
Laneyit's "outdoor use" cable12:38
* Laney needs food12:38
desrtthe conduit is not to protect it against the weather... it's to protect it against mechanical damage12:42
hikiko|lnmmm, why it crashes? I'll get a look, I didn't see that problem, thanks Trevinho12:50
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hikikoTrevinho, willcooke should I top approve sam's branch? https://code.launchpad.net/~smspillaz/compiz/compiz.animationaddon-returns/+merge/295497 he fixed 1 issue he had and so far his change doesn't affect unity or any default plugins13:04
Trevinhohikiko: sure, however we do use animations plugin13:06
Trevinhobut not the addon13:06
hikikoOk let me double check the animations 1 final time and i will top approve it13:08
Trevinhoit's probably just a cleanup from my quick look13:08
hikikoYes he just added a function for some raw code as far as i remember13:09
Trevinhohikiko: ok, go for it then... I'll include it in next landing round13:10
Trevinhohikiko: there are also other GL  related reviews if you want join the party.. https://code.launchpad.net/~smspillaz/compiz/+activereviews13:11
Trevinhohikiko: they're new plugins, so just check they're ok... Since there's no regression alert there13:11
hikikosure13:12
hikikosure I'll get a look13:13
seb128flexiondotorg, your g+ post you typoed "Sotware Bouqitue" in the title, missing "f" and swap of letters in boutique13:18
* flexiondotorg has typing issues.13:18
flexiondotorgThanks, I'll got a fix that.13:19
seb128yw!13:19
Laneythis cable is not getting damaged in that way14:04
Laneyonly by my inability to wire the thing up14:04
willcookeou est didrocks14:17
* larsu bets France14:17
larsuhey willcooke :)14:17
willcookewhat up larsu, congrats!!14:17
seb128hey larsu!14:18
desrtparty in #u-d14:18
larsuhello seb128!14:18
larsuhey desrt :)14:18
desrtwhere's laney and attente?14:18
seb128congrats?14:18
larsuyeah.. congrats?14:18
desrtlarsu: i heard the news!  congrats!14:18
larsuthanks!!!!!!14:18
desrtit's so awesome14:18
desrtyou're gonna be really happy14:18
larsumore than I am anyway?14:19
attente???14:19
LaneyHAHA14:19
larsuhi attente14:19
LaneyI feel the same14:19
attentehi larsu!14:19
larsuand hallo Laney14:19
Laneytag14:19
desrtattente: where are you?  i miss you14:19
desrtit's been like... 16 hours14:19
* attente hugs desrt14:20
larsudon't you two live in the same city?14:20
Laneyattente: https://www.trainingbeta.com/bouldering-strength-and-power-program/14:20
Laneylast night makes me thing I need some strength and power14:21
Laneylarsu: is there real news or are these people trolling?14:21
larsutrolling14:22
Laneyaww14:22
Laneyi was looking forward to being happy for you14:22
Laneycan I be happy for you anyway?14:22
attenteme too14:22
larsuit's a national holiday in germany14:22
larsunot in berlin14:22
* larsu blames religion14:23
Laneyhey you get to live in a cool city14:23
Laneyit's like a holiday every day14:23
larsuLaney, attente: yes, you can!14:23
larsuhaha indeed14:23
* larsu just had delicious pad thai14:23
attentenational holiday... but not in berlin...14:23
Laneyyou can have the holiday if you leave berlin14:23
Laneythere's a solid ring of people standing on the boundary14:24
larsuattente: federalism!14:24
attentelarsu: that does sound like a religion14:24
larsuI should have put national in quotes14:24
larsuhaha14:24
larsuor said "state"14:24
LaneyIf you only have a few good burns in you every day on your project, and you want to climb harder for longer, this program will give you the mental and physical stamina you need to project strong all day14:25
Laneythat is such a climbing sentence14:25
desrtreminds me of a friend of mine and his opinions on guitar magazines14:25
attenteLaney: have you tried this? how effective is it?14:27
Laneya couple of my pals are doing it14:27
Laneyone of them complains about doing too much training and not enough climbing /o\14:27
Laneythe other guy is super keen though14:28
Laneythey have this climbing diary where they document each one and how far they get every time14:28
* Laney is going to try the trial14:28
happyaronseb128: still around?14:29
seb128happyaron, yes, it's 4pm ;-)14:29
happyaronwhat about sponsoring this -openconnect plugin? it was finished last week but not uploaded14:30
happyaronhttps://launchpad.net/~happyaron/+archive/ubuntu/ppa/+sourcepub/6404038/+listing-archive-extra14:30
cyphermoxseb128: fwiw, I noticed there is in fact a 3G -specific signal level icon for https://bugs.launchpad.net/ubuntu/+source/network-manager-applet/+bug/1571574, I'm updating everything to use that14:30
ubot5`Launchpad bug 1571574 in network-manager-applet (Ubuntu) "[SRU] 3G (WWAN) icon missing" [High,In progress]14:31
seb128cyphermox, great!14:31
happyaronthx cyphermox14:31
larsuseb128: 4pm on a Thursday!!!14:31
seb128happyaron, is that the one which p_itti comment about, #23 on the bug14:32
larsuhow do you not have that holiday?!14:32
cyphermoxhappyaron: have you tested the vpn plugins? there's often some corner cases that may fail14:32
seb128larsu, you mean it's ice cream time?14:32
seb128:-)14:32
larsuhaha yes!14:33
cyphermoxice cream!14:33
happyaroncyphermox: most of them need update to >= 1.2.0 for version mismatches14:33
seb128larsu, guess where p_itti is :p14:33
larsueating ice cream in the sun I hope14:33
Laneymaking some really dark bread14:33
cyphermoxhappyaron: that's not what I mean, they still need to be tested. no point in updating to something broken14:33
Laneyand/or gardening14:33
* Laney knows pi_tti's life14:34
seb128:-)14:34
seb128or playing basketball14:34
seb128he seems to have got into it14:34
Laneymaybe basketball and/or taekwondo14:34
larsuwhile eating ice cream14:34
Laneyone of those beer hats modified to dispense ice cream instead14:34
happyaroncyphermox: ic, will double check when making any updates..14:34
seb128"please can hold that scone for me, need to throw the ball now" :p14:35
larsuhehe14:36
Laneysooooooooooooo css nodes are fun14:36
Laneyalso running 3 copies of the widget factory is fun14:36
seb128larsu, see what you did to Laney!14:36
Laneyespecially when you open the switcher14:37
* larsu slowly walks away14:37
Laneycompiz hates that14:37
willcookeLaney, I feel your pain14:37
seb128Marrrrcooooo14:37
larsuhaha :)14:37
flexiondotorgwillcooke, Have you got an LP bug reference for the white centres in progress bars?14:37
seb128what's the issue with the switcher?14:37
Laneyi guess the live previews14:37
Laneyseems to kill everything14:37
willcookeflexiondotorg, sec...14:37
seb128weird, it should be able to handle that :-/14:38
cyphermoxflexiondotorg: thanks if you fix that, it's fugly.14:38
seb128no really slowdown here14:38
Laneywith more than one?14:38
Laneyit doesn't always happen14:38
seb128yeah, just tried with 314:38
flexiondotorgcyphermox, Is fixed, willcooke and Laney have the details.14:38
cyphermoxweee14:38
Laneyho hum14:39
willcookeflexiondotorg, cyphermox https://bugs.launchpad.net/ubuntu/+source/ubuntu-themes/+bug/105293614:39
Laneyprobably drivers get involved14:39
ubot5`Launchpad bug 1052936 in ubuntu-themes (Ubuntu) "Progress bar in "Progress" section has a hole in it" [Medium,Triaged]14:39
seb128yeah14:39
seb128or hidpi = more pixels14:39
seb128or something14:39
Laneydifferent machine14:39
seb128ah14:39
seb128dunno then :-)14:39
Laneyhttp://people.canonical.com/~laney/weird-things/gtk320.png14:39
willcookeflexiondotorg, cyphermox - I'm working on a fix14:39
willcookeflexiondotorg, cyphermox - nearly there, just need time to finish it.14:39
cyphermoxcool, not a problem14:40
Laneyevery pixel on there has given me one new grey hair14:40
cyphermoxit's not breaking things, it just looks ugly and I saw it a lot testing apturl and aptdaemon14:40
willcookecyphermox, ditto14:40
seb128nice14:40
Laneystill don't know what is up with that left linked button14:41
Laneycomboboxes are hard14:41
willcookecyphermox, actually, I think it's done.  Would you take a branch out for a test drive?14:43
cyphermoxwillcooke: tbh, can I haz a PPA instead?14:43
willcookecyphermox, sure, lemme find out how to do that....14:43
cyphermoxoh14:43
Laneylazzzzzzzzzzzy14:44
Laneybzr bd!14:44
cyphermoxwell, I can build it myself too ;)14:44
* willcooke needs to learn anyway 14:44
Laneyturn off --with scour in debian/rules if you do that14:44
cyphermox+114:44
* Laney 's tips14:44
* willcooke smiles and nods and goes to look it up14:44
cyphermoxLaney: seb128: gnome-common uninstallable?14:44
Laneywillcooke: for local build, not ppa14:44
Laneywhat14:45
willcookeah, kk14:45
cyphermoxI don't know, sbuild is unhappy with building nm-applet here14:45
seb128cyphermox, what's the error?14:46
Laneylaney@snakefruit:~$ /home/ubuntu-archive/bin/chdist apt-get yakkety-amd64 --dry-run install gnome-common >/dev/null 2>&1 && echo what you talkin about cyphermox14:46
Laneywhat you talkin about cyphermox14:46
cyphermoxjust "gnome-common is uninstallable"14:46
Laneysame with proposed14:46
seb128try to apt-get install it14:46
seb128and see what's the actual error14:46
cyphermoxnah, I see what it is14:46
happyaronunit tests of n-m randomly fail on my box, and I need reboot to get that work again14:47
cyphermoxbuild with yakkety-proposed+main14:47
happyarondunno why14:47
seb128happyaron, :-/14:47
cyphermoxmain-only build fails, gnome-common is in universe now?14:47
Laneyyou can build with universe14:47
cyphermoxof course14:47
seb128yeah archive reorg14:47
cyphermoxyeah, just had muscle-memory14:48
seb128:-)14:48
happyaronseb128: you might remember I stucked during our sprint saying unit tests problem14:49
seb128happyaron, yeah, you said you had local issues not happening in the ppa14:49
seb128did you ask cyphermox if he knows about those?14:49
happyaronnope, but doing now. cyphermox ^^^14:50
cyphermoxunit tests for n-m can be confused by the interfaces on your system, especially if you're also running containers and whatnot14:50
cyphermoxbetter to run in a pristine environment14:51
happyaronno containers14:51
happyaronok14:51
Sweet5hark1*grumble*. /me had a ftbfs in the beta snap, now set it to  "make -j1" and it seems to be doing fine. Buildsystem race conditions ftw (esp. if they are happening in building bundled projects: aka a make triggering other build systems, possibly multiple ones in parallel ...) *grumble*14:51
* Laney saw a post the other day about building gstreamer with meson14:52
Laneyapparently they got loads of speedup14:53
qenghoninja is fast.14:54
willcookecyphermox, https://code.launchpad.net/~willcooke/ubuntu-themes/progress-bars14:57
flocculantseb128: re 'recent' files - have stuff from yesterday showing as yesterday15:01
seb128flocculant, yesterday before current time?15:02
seb128or after?15:02
flocculantwas yesterday ~07:3015:02
seb128and what time is it now for you? :-)15:02
Sweet5hark1Laney, quengo: guys, this would suck with any build system. The annoying part is stacking build systems on top of buildsystems. Jenga-style development again.15:03
flocculantseb128: on another note - I have a file that says accessed 26/01/2015 - which I assume was the *first* time it was accessed as I opened/modified it yesterday15:03
flocculantseb128: it's currently 16:03, that file with 'yesterday' this morning showed the 'time' rather than yesterday15:04
* Laney snuggles Sweet5hark1 15:04
Laneyyou are experiencing the fun of bundling15:04
flocculantseb128: I would anticipate tomorrow ~08:00 it saying 25/01/1615:05
Sweet5hark1aye15:05
* Sweet5hark1 pouts15:05
* happyaron goes to his bed15:05
flocculanthappyaron: don't take a pout15:05
flocculantawful tasting fish15:05
happyaron:)15:06
seb128flocculant, ok, thanks, I need to look more, still seems confusing behaviour15:07
seb128happyaron, night!15:07
seb128happyaron, btw did you see my comment about openconnect?15:07
flocculantseb128: ack - personally I'm confused why it's saying the 'accessed' time if that's the original, would make more sense to show the more recent one *shrug*15:08
seb128yeah15:08
flocculantand happy enough to look again later15:08
happyaronseb128: the dependency thing?15:08
seb128it's supposed to do that15:08
happyaronah will look tomorrow15:08
seb128happyaron, yes, p_itti blocked the SRU due to that, cf the bug15:08
happyaronic15:08
flocculantseb128: aah right - ok - well then I'd call bug :)15:09
flocculantwhich is easy to do when you can't fix them ;)15:10
seb128hehe15:11
attenteseb128: hey, do you have a chance to try out the ppa?15:39
qenghoLaney: I want to implement appstream for this chromium release. Can you point me to a source package whose appstream data is exemplary?15:41
Laneyqengho: gnome-software probably has it right15:41
qenghoAwesome. Thanks.15:41
LaneyYou should get upstream to ship this15:42
seb128attente, hey, oh sorry, forgot ...going to do that in a bit15:42
cyphermoxseb128: Laney: willcooke's code branch looks good for the theming15:43
cyphermoxI tested with the adwaita and ambiance themes in gnome-shell.15:44
seb128cyphermox, great!15:44
cyphermoxah there he is15:45
cyphermoxhm, actually maybe I'm not testing this right15:49
cyphermoxwillcooke: your code branch looks good to me15:55
willcookecyphermox, thx.  I'm going to keep it on here for a bit and see if I can find anything that broke.15:55
willcookeLaney, might be another merge ^15:55
seb128willcooke, you might want to get the light theme updated as well? (unsure why the bug doesn't show there but better to not have the code diverge between those)15:59
willcookeseb128, good call, will do16:00
seb128tiheum, hey, do you think we could easily get phone-<level>-charging icons?16:09
seb128tiheum, try to figure out what to do with bug #147008016:10
ubot5`bug 1470080 in indicator-power (Ubuntu) "Broken icon in indicator when iphone attached" [High,Triaged] https://launchpad.net/bugs/147008016:10
seb128willcooke, ^16:10
willcookeack, thx seb12816:10
seb128the issue is that the charging/discharging16:11
seb128it's that it tries to load "phone-<level>-charging" icons16:11
seb128which we don't have16:11
seb128unsure what to do with that16:11
seb128best option would be to get those icons16:11
seb128if we can't easily then either display a battery one? or a standard phone icon?16:13
seb128but /usr/share/icons/suru/devices/scalable/phone-symbolic.svg doesn't look good in the indicator16:14
tiheumseb128, hi, I think that the best option is to add a (pixel-perfect) 'phone charging' icon to ubuntu-mono-light and ubuntu-mono-dark themes16:18
seb128tiheum, do you think you could work on that when you have some spare cycles?16:19
tiheumseb128, sure, it might not take too long. I add ubuntu-themes to the bug's affected projects.16:20
seb128tiheum, I added the package, feel free to add the upstream project as well16:20
seb128tiheum, thanks!16:20
willcookethanks tiheum16:20
tiheumseb128, just one thing: do we need only one icon whatever the charge level of the phone is or several icons (and which ones)?16:23
tiheumseb128, actually I've just check the status icon in ubuntu-mono-light and we have already a few icons that could be used when charging a phone. Look into /usr/share/icons/ubuntu-mono-light/status/2416:27
seb128oh16:27
tiheumicon are called gpm-phone-XXX.svg where XXX is the charge level16:27
tiheum*icons16:27
tiheumor xfm-phone-XXX.svg16:29
seb128yeah, trying that16:29
seb128the charge levels are by 1016:29
tiheumnope, 2016:30
seb128in the code16:32
seb128oh, rather 10 with fallback to 2016:32
seb128tiheum, k, so those icons are not -charging16:33
seb128I guess the code could fallback to try to load the non charging version16:33
seb128as a fallback16:33
seb128also the menu looks weird with those because they don't have the same ratio as the battery ones16:34
seb128but at least the panel looks fine16:34
seb128charles, ^16:34
seb128charles, tiheum, http://people.canonical.com/~seb128/device.png16:36
seb128willcooke, ^16:36
charleshm, indicator-power's code looks like it should be requesting an icon like gpm-phone-10016:36
seb128does it?16:37
seb128      case UP_DEVICE_STATE_CHARGING:16:38
seb128has all its icons -charging16:38
seb128do we do the iconspace thing where we drop the suffix until we find something?16:38
seb128i.e icon-something-else looking to icon-something?16:38
charlesseb128, for charging it would request something like gpm-phone-080-charging16:40
charlesfor discharging it would be gpm-phone-08016:40
seb128right16:40
seb128well the phone is plugged16:41
seb128so it's charging16:41
charlesso, right, we dont have -charging icons16:41
seb128unsure if we should fallback to non charging in those cases16:41
seb128also see the screenshot for the menu layout issue16:41
charlesyeah, same16:41
charlesIMO falling back to icon-something when icon-something-else is unavailable is better than a broken icon16:43
charlesbut it would be better to have a phone-foo-charging icon16:44
charlesnot sure what appearance they would have though16:46
charlestiheum, do you think it would make sense to add phone charging icons different from the current phone icons?16:46
charlesalso mpt ^16:46
tiheumcharles, what do you mean?16:49
charlestiheum, eg right now there's gpm-phone-040.svg. Would it make sense to have another icon to show a charging phone, eg gpm-phone-040-charging.svg16:49
seb128with a small charging sign on it or something16:50
tiheumseb128, charles: oh, I see16:50
tiheumit would make sense but it's tricky because the icons are tiny16:51
tiheumnote that the main battery icon is larger than the other indicators16:51
seb128attente, gnome-software from the ppa looks fine to me, installing/starting/remove a software, refreshing for updates, looking at review, searching for a snap ... did you specific issues?16:52
seb128I'm going to keep playing a bit with it16:52
seb128but no regression that I can see so far16:52
seb128tiheum, right, that leads to http://people.canonical.com/~seb128/device.png16:52
tiheumso a phone + a charge level + a sign... it's a lot to combine in one tiny icon :)16:52
tiheumyeah, in the menu, the icon is only 16x16 px16:53
tiheum24x24 in the panel which is better but still small16:53
seb128charles, can we get the fallback to drop -charging?16:53
charlesseb128, yes.16:54
seb128charles, thanks16:54
charlesseb128, that won't fix the menu alignment issue but at least it'll get the broken icon off the panel16:54
seb128right16:54
attenteseb128: it feels like some of the aptd transactions are slower for some reason, and sometimes i find after an update/search, the spinner kind of just runs forever16:54
seb128attente, k, I didn't use it enough to see, in fact I didn't use g-s since Prague I think16:55
seb128so difficult to say16:55
seb128but we keep it in proposed for a while and see the feedback16:55
attenteyeah, not sure if that's a regression though either or if the archive version does it too16:55
attenteok16:55
seb128attente, get some more people on the channel to install it maybe, like willcooke & Laney, and see what's the feedback is by monday (no sru on friday anyway) and we can decide next week if we SRU it or if it needs more work?16:58
attenteok, sounds good16:58
willcookeattente, how do I test?  What needs doing?16:59
willcookealso: did the "update all" patch get in?16:59
willcooke(that was a thing being worked on, I think)16:59
attentewillcooke: https://launchpad.net/~attente/+archive/ubuntu/gnome-software16:59
willcooke((might be wrong))16:59
seb128I think that one is mainly a rebase on current stable upstream16:59
attenteupdate all should be working16:59
willcookeattente, do I need to enable propsed as well, or just add the PPA?16:59
willcookeattente, @ update all - sweet!17:00
attentewillcooke: just the ppa17:00
willcookeoki dokey17:00
willcookeand what should I be looking out for?17:00
attentei guess just try to do the usual activities, search, install, remove, updating17:00
seb128you play with it and see if it feels like it's working as before17:00
seb128looking for potential regressions in performances or behaviour17:00
willcookeI'd better play with the current version a bit more first then :)17:01
seb128yeah :-)17:01
willcookeam I a bad person.17:01
willcooke:)17:01
attente:) don't worry. you can always install the current version over the new one17:01
Laneynight!17:03
* Laney has marginally improved spinbuttons17:03
* Laney screams17:03
* Laney is off to a new micro pub to get away from it all17:03
Laneyhttp://www.fhp.co.uk/news/micropub-a-pottle-of-blues-opens-in-beeston17:04
seb128night Laney!17:04
willcookecya Laney17:05
willcookehrmmmmmm17:23
willcookeI think I see why Radiance works17:23
willcookeand it's a one line fix if so....17:24
seb128willcooke, what is it? who fixed it? ;-)17:31
willcookeseb128, I think it's related to background-image17:31
willcookejust testing it now17:31
willcookemeh, that just made it wors17:32
willcookee17:32
willcooke:)17:32
willcookeseb128, what's a good GUI diff tool?17:34
seb128meld?17:35
seb128it's the only one I know17:35
* willcooke uses g-s to install it 17:35
charlesseb128, I've pushed work to lp:~charlesk/indicator-power/lp-1470080-missing-icon-when-apple-devices-connected to fall back to icon 'foo' if icon 'foo-charging' is unavailable18:33
charlesseb128, could you test it with your apple device?18:33
willcookecharles, I can do that18:33
charleswillcooke,  yay18:33
willcookecharles, seb128 would never own an Apple device :)18:33
willcookecharles, have you got time for a bit of hand-holding?  I need help getting it built.  If not, I can ask Seb to help me in the morning18:35
* willcooke installs build-deps for indicator-power & cmake18:37
charleswillcooke, I'll make a silo for it and build there. Would that be ok?18:37
willcookecharles, oh - maybe I did it :_18:37
willcooke:)18:37
willcookeI did cmake . and then make18:37
willcookeand something is happening18:37
willcookeI've got an indicator-power-service binary in src18:37
charleswillcooke, ok from the terminal "$stop indicator-power" to stop the one that's already running for you18:38
charlesand then you can run the one you just built, ie build/src/indicator-power-service18:38
charlesand it should show up in the panel18:38
willcooke$ stop indicator-power-service18:38
willcookestop: Unknown job: indicator-power-service18:38
willcookecan I just pkill it?18:39
charleswillcooke, "stop indicator-power" not "stop indicator-power-service"18:39
willcookeah!18:39
willcookethx18:39
charleswhen you're done testing you can "$start indicator-power" to bring it back18:39
willcookedamn it, now the phone is fully charged :)18:40
* willcooke uses battery 18:40
willcookeMINECRAFT!!18:40
charleslol18:40
charleswillcooke, you're familiar with the bug? if not popey's screenshot @ https://launchpadlibrarian.net/210338198/Selection_486.png from https://bugs.launchpad.net/ubuntu/+source/indicator-power/+bug/1470080 shows it in action18:41
ubot5`Launchpad bug 1470080 in indicator-power (Ubuntu) "Broken icon in indicator when iphone attached" [High,Triaged]18:41
willcookechecking18:42
willcookecharles, looks good!18:47
charleswillcooke, \o/18:47
willcookeI've got some screenshots here, sec...18:47
willcookecharles, http://imgur.com/a/jACV718:49
charlesgood good18:50
willcookethanks a lot charles!18:50
charlestedg, as per ^ I made a couple more commits to https://code.launchpad.net/~charlesk/indicator-power/lp-1470080-missing-icon-when-apple-devices-connected/+merge/295752 after your Approve -- one to add the fallback icons, and one to make the device tests more readable as you suggested18:51
charlestedg, the former was literally a one-liner, replacing a 'break;' with a comment so that a switch's state-charging case could fall through to state-discharging18:52
charlestedg, the ripple effects in the unit tests though... :D18:52
charleswillcooke, thanks for testing it out on your Apple device18:53
willcookeyw!18:53
* tedg can't believe willcooke admitted publicly to owning an Apple device18:58
* willcooke <-- hates freedom 18:59
willcookeright, dinner time19:01
willcookethanks chaps19:01
willcookeg'night19:01
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