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hunter_what's good00:02
maxspicePreviously I hid synapse icon from the top panel. How do I unhide it?00:56
guest-EsQfrZmortal kombat01:22
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fifty-sevenCRight click it, in the panel editor navigate to the icon and check to show it02:17
fifty-sevenCaaaand he's gone02:17
lostsonis the Radar Map not working in the weather applet anymore ?02:24
randallhow do I permanently disable the f12 terminal? it really messes with steam02:38
lostsonchange the keyboard shortcut for tilda02:40
randallI gotta change the shortcut? can't just get rid of it?02:41
fifty-sevenCTurn off tilda in the startup apps02:41
fifty-sevenCThen kill it02:41
randalloh, than kyou02:41
alkisgflexiondotorg: Hi Martin! Could you re-upload https://bugs.launchpad.net/ubuntu/+source/ubuntu-mate-settings/+bug/1574789 to xenial? You've already fixed it in yakkety...08:12
ubottuLaunchpad bug 1574789 in ubuntu-mate "xorg.conf.d/90-zap.conf destroys xorg keyboard settings" [High,Fix committed]08:12
flexiondotorgalkisg, Oh, did that bump my upload in Xenial?08:33
alkisgflexiondotorg: I think a different action is needed, i.e. it's another thing to upload to yakkety and another to sru to xenial08:34
alkisgAnd there are usually two tags, verification-done-xenial etc08:34
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flexiondotorgI uploaded both both Xenial (SRU) and Yakkety (new version for 16.10).08:39
alkisgflexiondotorg: apt policy ubuntu-mate-default-settings08:40
alkisg     16.04.5.1 50008:40
alkisg        500 http://gr.archive.ubuntu.com/ubuntu xenial-proposed/universe i386 Packages08:40
alkisgThat's the previous version which had the conffile issue08:41
alkisgI don't see any new uploads in xenial-proposed...08:41
alkisg> Obsolete conffile /usr/share/X11/xorg.conf.d/90-zap.conf has been modified by you.08:41
alkisg> Saving as /usr/share/X11/xorg.conf.d/90-zap.conf.dpkg-bak ...08:41
flexiondotorgHmm, well. It was there.08:42
flexiondotorgI'll reupload to Xenial for the SRU.08:42
alkisgThanks!08:42
flexiondotorgalkisg, It is in proposed08:47
flexiondotorghttps://launchpad.net/ubuntu/+source/ubuntu-mate-settings/16.04.5.108:47
alkisgflexiondotorg: that's that one that has the conffile issue08:47
alkisgrm_conffile /usr/share/X11/xorg.conf.d/90-zap.conf 16.04.508:48
alkisgYou removed that line, and uploaded it to yakkety, but not to xenial08:48
alkisgflexiondotorg: http://people.canonical.com/~ubuntu-archive/pending-sru.html ==> ubuntu-mate-settings     16.04.5        16.04.5.1     #1574789 #1577706     1309:03
alkisgIt's been waiting in the queue for 13 days09:04
alkisgNo other uploads were done in xenial after that, so the "rm_conffile" line was never removed/fixed there09:04
alkisgFull publishing history: https://launchpad.net/ubuntu/+source/ubuntu-mate-settings/+publishinghistory09:08
Zer0Byte___hey10:19
Zer0Byte___someone alive :P10:19
Zer0Byte___?10:19
ouroumovyes10:23
ouroumovHi Zer0Byte___10:23
Zer0Byte___hey10:23
Zer0Byte___any idea how to put vino-server with lightdm10:23
Zer0Byte___at boot?10:23
ouroumovI think Vino installs as a service and is automatically started10:24
Zer0Byte___in ubuntu-mate no10:25
ouroumovhm10:25
ouroumovHow did you install it? sudo apt install vino-server?10:25
Zer0Byte___yes10:26
ouroumovI used sudo apt-install vino just now, I'm gonna try it out and come back10:26
Zer0Byte___ok10:27
Zer0Byte___thanks10:27
Zer0Byte___im using 16.04 of ubuntu-mate10:27
ouroumovhm10:34
ouroumovWell I can't get it to work10:35
Zer0Byte___the server10:36
Zer0Byte___or at boot time?10:36
ouroumovNah the server10:36
ouroumovHow do you start it?10:37
Zer0Byte___you have to load the preferences10:37
Zer0Byte___first10:37
ouroumovDid that10:37
Zer0Byte___and later start the server10:37
Zer0Byte___for me works10:37
Zer0Byte___but i want to put it on boot time on light dm10:37
Zer0Byte___are you logged on ssh session10:38
Zer0Byte___or locally?10:38
ouroumovlocally10:38
Zer0Byte___when you run the server what happend?10:39
ouroumovI don't know how to run it, is what I'm telling you xD10:39
ouroumovapropos vino returns nothing10:39
ouroumovvino doesn't work10:39
Zer0Byte___ohh10:41
Zer0Byte___no10:41
Zer0Byte___you have to run from here10:41
Zer0Byte___./usr/lib/vino/vino-server10:41
ouroumovthx10:41
Zer0Byte___ /usr/lib/vino/vino-server10:41
ouroumovokay10:42
ouroumovOK so I was able to connect10:42
ouroumovAnd now you wanna start it upon boot10:42
Zer0Byte___yes10:43
Zer0Byte___on lightdm10:43
Zer0Byte___so if i restart my computer10:43
Zer0Byte___i can login remotely10:43
mate|93389Hi friends, i could not install gstreamer0.10-plugins-ugly_0.10.19-2.1_i386.deb in ubuntu-mate 16.0410:46
Zer0Byte___what error u get?10:47
mate|93389Dependency is not satisfiable: libsidplay110:48
mate|93389but it's already installed10:48
gordonjcpmate|93389: what exactly are you trying to do?10:49
mate|93389I already installed libsidplay1v5_1.36.59-8_i386.deb10:49
Zer0Byte___uname -a10:49
Zer0Byte___are u using 64 bit10:49
Zer0Byte___version?10:49
mate|93389i am trying to install the Gstreamer0.1 dependency to support 'mad'10:49
mate|9338932 bit version , ubuntu-mate10:49
mate|93389Linux insight-desktop 4.4.0-21-generic #37-Ubuntu SMP Mon Apr 18 18:34:49 UTC 2016 i686 i686 i686 GNU/Linux10:51
mate|93389Linux insight-desktop 4.4.0-21-generic #37-Ubuntu SMP Mon Apr 18 18:34:49 UTC 2016 i686 i686 i686 GNU/Linux10:51
mate|93389Linux insight-desktop 4.4.0-21-generic #37-Ubuntu SMP Mon Apr 18 18:34:49 UTC 2016 i686 i686 i686 GNU/Linux10:51
mate|93389i see ubuntu-mate 6.04 support Gstreamer 0.110:51
mate|93389Zer0Byte__,gordonjcp: any solution10:51
gordonjcpmate|93389: madplay?10:52
mate|93389yes10:52
gordonjcp"sudo apt-get install madplay"10:52
gordonjcpit's packaged already10:52
gordonjcpwhy are you buggering abut with ancient versions of gstreamer?10:52
mate|93389because our application in python use it10:53
mate|93389i installed mad now but still shows error10:53
ouroumovso Zer0Byte___, you're gonna have to dig into systemd documentation :/10:54
mate|93389decoder = gst.element_factory_make("mad", "mp3-decoder")10:54
mate|93389gst.ElementNotFoundError: mad10:54
mate|93389but when try to install once more show10:55
mate|93389madplay is already the newest version (0.15.2b-8)10:55
gordonjcpmate|93389: those gstreamer packages are ancient history10:56
mate|93389any body please help...I can avoid this by install in Debian Jessie10:56
gordonjcpare they even built for Ubuntu?10:56
mate|93389it's a deb file , which can use for both Ubuntu/Debian10:56
mate|93389but our main concern is Ubuntu10:57
gordonjcpno10:57
gordonjcpit's a .deb file which *might* be usable for both Ubuntu and Debian10:57
gordonjcpbut on the other hand, it might not10:57
gordonjcpif you want to use Ubuntu 16.04 then you shouldn't really be installing packages from 201410:58
mate|93389hmm10:58
gordonjcpat this point, I'd be looking at updating the Python code to work with the newer packages10:58
mate|93389but current situation changing all codebase is impossible10:59
gordonjcpwell, maybe you can look at gstreamer packages from an older Ubuntu10:59
mate|93389i am ready to share my app for Blinds seeking help10:59
mate|93389it's for Blind communit11:00
mate|93389y11:00
gordonjcpthey might not install directly but you could possibly adapt the debian/ directory so they'll build "old" gstreamer on a new Ubuntu11:00
mate|93389if any chance help11:01
mate|93389because change all code need atleast 3 months11:01
Zer0Byte___solved with x11vnc11:08
bobiihi11:18
bobiiis it possible to force system use same battery mode power options in ac mode?because i have not  fan problem in battery mode.11:19
mate|18792hi11:20
gordonjcpbobii: right click on the little battery symbol, go to Preferences11:21
gordonjcpbobii: you can adjust what it does on mains or battery11:21
mate|18792i want to install ubuntu-mate on cubieboard 1 on nand11:21
mate|18792how to install?11:21
ouroumovStill no joy Zer0Byte___11:23
ouroumovI get an error when systemd attempts to start the service11:23
Zer0Byte___i already solved11:23
Zer0Byte___with x11vnc11:23
ouroumovYeah but I'd like to know for Vino. Anyway I'll keep trying11:24
mate|18792any on pls tell me11:27
Paddy_NII have not received an answer yet on #ubuntu so I shall try my luck here as there is crossover.11:43
Paddy_NII have installed "ubuntu-desktop" on an Ubuntu MATE 16.04 installation and have run "sudo dpkg-reconfigure ubuntu-desktop" to which nothing happens only to be left with an Ubuntu Unity session that has no panel, desktop, dash or launcher.. Can anyone help?11:43
Paddy_NIThis is to enable me to support my dad a little better really11:43
Paddy_NIMATE is still king11:43
gordonjcpPaddy_NI: weird, that should work11:55
gordonjcpPaddy_NI: you can log in with Unity desktop from the greeter, but you don't get a panel?11:56
Guest_84848Allah is doing12:05
Guest_84848sun is not doing Allah is doing12:05
Guest_84848moon is not doing Allah is doing12:06
Guest_84848stars are not doing Allah is doing12:06
Akulithis spammer was on #devuan previosly12:06
Paddy_NIgordonjcp, That's right nothing at all just the default wallpaper, I cannot even right click on the desktop and the windows key does nothing12:08
Paddy_NIgordonjcp, No keyboard shortcuts at all12:08
Guest_84848galaxies are not doing Allah is doing12:08
Guest_84848planets are not doing Allah is doing12:10
gordonjcpGuest_84848: God is not up for discussion here12:10
gordonjcpPaddy_NI: bit of a weird one12:12
Guest_84848oceans are not doing Allah is doing12:12
gordonjcpit definitely installed ubuntu-desktop and all its associated packages?12:12
Guest_84848mountains are not doing Allah is doing12:12
Guest_84848trees are not doing Allah is doing12:13
Guest_84848mom is not doing Allah is doing12:13
Guest_84848dad is not doing Allah is doing12:13
Guest_84848boss is not doing Allah is doing12:14
Guest_84848job is not doing Allah is doing12:14
Guest_84848dollar is not doing Allah is doing12:14
Guest_84848degree is not doing Allah is doing12:14
gordonjcp!ops12:14
ubottuHelp! Channel emergency! (ONLY use this trigger in emergencies) - Pici, Myrtti, jrib, Amaranth, tonyyarusso, Nalioth, lamont, CarlK, elky, mneptok, PriceChild, Tm_T, jpds, ikonia, Flannel, genii, wgrant, stdin, h00k, IdleOne, nhandler, Jordan_U, popey, Corey, ocean, cprofitt, djones, Madpilot, gnomefreak, lhavelund, k1l, rww, phunyguy, bazhang, chu12:14
Guest_84848medicine is not doing Allah is doing12:15
Guest_84848customers are not doing Allah is doing12:15
Guest_84848you can not get a job without the permission of allah12:16
Guest_84848you can not get married without the permission of allah12:16
Guest_84848nobody can get angry at you without the permission of allah12:17
gordonjcpGuest_84848: think you're in the wrong channel with that12:17
Guest_84848light is not doing Allah is doing12:19
gordonjcphm, the ops factoid isn't most useful here12:20
Guest_84848fan is not doing Allah is doing12:21
Guest_84848businessess are not doing Allah is doing12:25
Guest_84848america is not doing Allah is doing12:25
Guest_84848fire can not burn without the permission of allah12:27
YankDownUnderI suppose that if I want to create and load a service that pertains specifically to a customised routine that I want to create, I have to ask allah for that as well, hmm...fair enough.12:28
Paddy_NIlol12:28
* YankDownUnder wonders if anyone has bothered to feed the idiots today or if it's a full moon12:28
YankDownUnderAnyone have any issues installing Cinnamon alongside Mate...?12:31
gordonjcpMyrtti: ayeup mrs12:33
gordonjcpMyrtti: thanks for popping in12:33
Myrttiyw.12:33
flexiondotorgalkisg, https://bugs.launchpad.net/ubuntu/+source/ubuntu-mate-settings/+bug/157770612:43
ubottuLaunchpad bug 1577706 in ubuntu-mate-settings (Ubuntu) "SRU: ubuntu-mate-settings 16.05.5.2 bug fix" [Undecided,Fix committed]12:43
flexiondotorgSee opening post and last post.12:43
renatohi13:12
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Guest13839just had my fresh install of ubuntu mate 16.04 lts, id like to hear thoughts on upgrading the mate desktop to 1.14 now. Is it viable already or should i stick with the current version?13:13
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renatobarizjust send me a pvt message, i'll be afk for some time =)13:18
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bokmuskeHi, I'm now on 16.04.13:53
gordonjcpbokmuske: cool13:54
bokmuskeI fear I've accidentally overwritten my lay-out, though.13:54
bokmuskeDoes anyone know where to find a theme called "Fog"?13:54
gordonjcpgnome-look?13:58
gordonjcpis that maybe Adwaita-Fog?13:58
bokmuskeHm, I'll have a look, though it sounds like a muted Adwaita theme.14:04
bokmuskeNo, there are Fog-s at Gnome Look, but they all seem to be wallpapers. I can't recall what Fog did (something that used to be done by Mist, no doubt), but a wallpaper it wasN't.14:09
gordonjcphave you got a backup of your old homedir?14:09
fifty-sevenCI've accidently wiped my desktop layout a few times. :( I just decided I like the default the best and never touch it anyways.14:10
gordonjcpfifty-sevenC: sometimes I change my wallpaper14:12
gordonjcpI wish I had time to spend hours cocking about getting my menu bars just the right shade of bluey-grey14:12
bokmuskeI do have a backup of my homedir, but the dir still has the themes in it that were there before, and Fog is not among them. But, I'll check anyway.14:13
fifty-sevenCIn 16.04 there is a way to save a custom layout14:13
fifty-sevenCso you don't accidently wipe it anyways14:13
bokmuskeHm, now that you mention it; I was working on a custom theme; I could check whether the relevant parts of Fog were saved there, as soon as I know what they were.14:16
mate|91015Hi does anyone know how I can write with Chinese characters in UM?14:19
fifty-sevenCmate|91015, open a terminal and do sudo apt-get install ibus-pinyin ibus-sunpinyin14:20
fifty-sevenCthen sudo ibus restart14:21
fifty-sevenCThen go into your language support settings enable chinese14:22
mate|91015I clicked on the button in the Welcome application > Language & Input > Complex Input > Chinese14:23
fifty-sevenCok14:23
fifty-sevenCI'm not familiar with text entry besides English.14:24
fifty-sevenCIt might not be installed completely14:25
mate|91015Is there any way to enable Chinese language support through a Software Manager?14:25
fifty-sevenCDo what I said earlier14:26
fifty-sevenCTo open a terminal press ctrl+alt+t14:26
bokmuskeWell, I guess I'll have to make do with what I have for now.14:48
bokmuskeNext step: See how GIMP was improworsened this time.14:49
bokmuskeOh dear, now Firefox has those jumping scrollbars.17:08
bokmuskeDoes anyone know a way to avoid that?17:08
thuselem Hello MATE team! Thanks for the 16.04 release, I have recently installed it and am loving it.17:14
thuselemI have one question. In the 15.04 version, using compiz, I could maximize a window using <Ctrl><Super>Up-arrow. I am not able to do this in the current release.17:15
thuselemIs there a way I can assign this keyboard shortcut?17:15
bokmuskeThere probably is, because I came across a short-cut table in my freshly installed/updated 16.04.17:21
bokmuskeCould you check what Alt F10 does?17:24
thuselemYes, Alt-F10 works. I guess I have the muscle memory of shifting my windows around with Ctrl-Super-... keystrokes. Left-arrow to the left, right-arrow to the right.17:26
bokmuskeI don't see how to modify these keys; maybe someone else will know. But at least this one will let you maximise.17:26
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bokmuskeAh, the configuration Centre has an entry for Short-Cut Keys. That's probably where to change them.17:28
thuselemCool, thanks. Having the Alt-F10 is useful.17:28
thuselemAh, yes. I see that, but no maximize. There does appear to be an option to add shortcuts, but I am not sure how I would configure it.17:30
bokmuskeMaximise Windows is the one below the Toggle Maximisation (Alt F10) for me. You configure by clicking the line and then press the combination you want for it.17:33
thuselemHmmm... did you bring up the configuration Centre with System > Control Center, then select Keyboard Shortcuts? (Pardon the US English :)17:38
bokmuskeIndeed, I did.18:03
ovrkodeGood afternoon! -- Just got done installing Ubuntu Mate on my pi loving it so far.18:04
bokmuskeGood Evening.18:05
ovrkodeOh hai.18:11
thuselemSorry, AFK. I don't see Toggle Maximization nor Maximize Windows advertised in my Keyboard Shortcuts.18:20
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thuselemI will see if I can add the shortcut manually.18:21
thuselemThanks for the direction bokmuske. I will try a few things later today and check back if I am still stymied.18:27
Paddy_NIStill no further forward with getting an Ubuntu Unity session working on "Ubuntu MATE 16.04"18:31
Paddy_NIbrb18:31
nomicwhy?  doesn''t mate run mate desktop18:35
nomicwhy do you want to do that -- run unity on ubuntu18:35
Paddy_NInomic, I installed "ubuntu-desktop" via apt and I had imagined like in the past I would have another working session to select from18:37
Paddy_NInomic, It's quite normal to run several desktop environments and window managers on a single machine18:37
Paddy_NIWould it be possible that "Marco + Compton" is the culprit for my "Unity" session not working correctly?19:20
Paddy_NIIf so how would I have them both live in harmony :-)19:21
NaseemHi guys20:49
NaseemOk so i installed unetbootin to make bootable usb for windows20:49
Naseembut after it writes it doesnt boot from usb20:50
Naseemi tired doing changes in bios20:50
Naseemdidnt help20:50
Naseemany other software to make bootable usb for windows?20:50
mkrorufus20:52
Naseemtried ubuntu software with the name given20:54
Naseemno results found20:55
Naseem???20:58
Naseemfound it thanks20:59
NaseemRufus21:00
NaseemThanks mkro :)21:00
NaseemSorry but its a exe extension and cant install it in ubuntu21:05
Naseemany other softwares which can help me21:05
mkrotry it on wine21:06
Naseemok21:52
Artemis3what do you mean with bootable usb for windows? you want a windows live? if so go ##windows22:42
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