[00:02] <hunter_> what's good
[00:56] <maxspice> Previously I hid synapse icon from the top panel. How do I unhide it?
[01:22] <guest-EsQfrZ> mortal kombat
[02:17] <fifty-sevenC> Right click it, in the panel editor navigate to the icon and check to show it
[02:17] <fifty-sevenC> aaaand he's gone
[02:24] <lostson> is the Radar Map not working in the weather applet anymore ?
[02:38] <randall> how do I permanently disable the f12 terminal? it really messes with steam
[02:40] <lostson> change the keyboard shortcut for tilda
[02:41] <randall> I gotta change the shortcut? can't just get rid of it?
[02:41] <fifty-sevenC> Turn off tilda in the startup apps
[02:41] <fifty-sevenC> Then kill it
[02:41] <randall> oh, than kyou
[08:12] <alkisg> flexiondotorg: Hi Martin! Could you re-upload https://bugs.launchpad.net/ubuntu/+source/ubuntu-mate-settings/+bug/1574789 to xenial? You've already fixed it in yakkety...
[08:33] <flexiondotorg> alkisg, Oh, did that bump my upload in Xenial?
[08:34] <alkisg> flexiondotorg: I think a different action is needed, i.e. it's another thing to upload to yakkety and another to sru to xenial
[08:34] <alkisg> And there are usually two tags, verification-done-xenial etc
[08:39] <flexiondotorg> I uploaded both both Xenial (SRU) and Yakkety (new version for 16.10).
[08:40] <alkisg> flexiondotorg: apt policy ubuntu-mate-default-settings
[08:40] <alkisg>      16.04.5.1 500
[08:40] <alkisg>         500 http://gr.archive.ubuntu.com/ubuntu xenial-proposed/universe i386 Packages
[08:41] <alkisg> That's the previous version which had the conffile issue
[08:41] <alkisg> I don't see any new uploads in xenial-proposed...
[08:41] <alkisg> > Obsolete conffile /usr/share/X11/xorg.conf.d/90-zap.conf has been modified by you.
[08:41] <alkisg> > Saving as /usr/share/X11/xorg.conf.d/90-zap.conf.dpkg-bak ...
[08:42] <flexiondotorg> Hmm, well. It was there.
[08:42] <flexiondotorg> I'll reupload to Xenial for the SRU.
[08:42] <alkisg> Thanks!
[08:47] <flexiondotorg> alkisg, It is in proposed
[08:47] <flexiondotorg> https://launchpad.net/ubuntu/+source/ubuntu-mate-settings/16.04.5.1
[08:47] <alkisg> flexiondotorg: that's that one that has the conffile issue
[08:48] <alkisg> rm_conffile /usr/share/X11/xorg.conf.d/90-zap.conf 16.04.5
[08:48] <alkisg> You removed that line, and uploaded it to yakkety, but not to xenial
[09:03] <alkisg> flexiondotorg: http://people.canonical.com/~ubuntu-archive/pending-sru.html ==> ubuntu-mate-settings     16.04.5        16.04.5.1     #1574789 #1577706     13
[09:04] <alkisg> It's been waiting in the queue for 13 days
[09:04] <alkisg> No other uploads were done in xenial after that, so the "rm_conffile" line was never removed/fixed there
[09:08] <alkisg> Full publishing history: https://launchpad.net/ubuntu/+source/ubuntu-mate-settings/+publishinghistory
[10:19] <Zer0Byte___> hey
[10:19] <Zer0Byte___> someone alive :P
[10:19] <Zer0Byte___> ?
[10:23] <ouroumov> yes
[10:23] <ouroumov> Hi Zer0Byte___
[10:23] <Zer0Byte___> hey
[10:23] <Zer0Byte___> any idea how to put vino-server with lightdm
[10:23] <Zer0Byte___> at boot?
[10:24] <ouroumov> I think Vino installs as a service and is automatically started
[10:25] <Zer0Byte___> in ubuntu-mate no
[10:25] <ouroumov> hm
[10:25] <ouroumov> How did you install it? sudo apt install vino-server?
[10:26] <Zer0Byte___> yes
[10:26] <ouroumov> I used sudo apt-install vino just now, I'm gonna try it out and come back
[10:27] <Zer0Byte___> ok
[10:27] <Zer0Byte___> thanks
[10:27] <Zer0Byte___> im using 16.04 of ubuntu-mate
[10:34] <ouroumov> hm
[10:35] <ouroumov> Well I can't get it to work
[10:36] <Zer0Byte___> the server
[10:36] <Zer0Byte___> or at boot time?
[10:36] <ouroumov> Nah the server
[10:37] <ouroumov> How do you start it?
[10:37] <Zer0Byte___> you have to load the preferences
[10:37] <Zer0Byte___> first
[10:37] <ouroumov> Did that
[10:37] <Zer0Byte___> and later start the server
[10:37] <Zer0Byte___> for me works
[10:37] <Zer0Byte___> but i want to put it on boot time on light dm
[10:38] <Zer0Byte___> are you logged on ssh session
[10:38] <Zer0Byte___> or locally?
[10:38] <ouroumov> locally
[10:39] <Zer0Byte___> when you run the server what happend?
[10:39] <ouroumov> I don't know how to run it, is what I'm telling you xD
[10:39] <ouroumov> apropos vino returns nothing
[10:39] <ouroumov> vino doesn't work
[10:41] <Zer0Byte___> ohh
[10:41] <Zer0Byte___> no
[10:41] <Zer0Byte___> you have to run from here
[10:41] <Zer0Byte___> ./usr/lib/vino/vino-server
[10:41] <ouroumov> thx
[10:41] <Zer0Byte___>  /usr/lib/vino/vino-server
[10:42] <ouroumov> okay
[10:42] <ouroumov> OK so I was able to connect
[10:42] <ouroumov> And now you wanna start it upon boot
[10:43] <Zer0Byte___> yes
[10:43] <Zer0Byte___> on lightdm
[10:43] <Zer0Byte___> so if i restart my computer
[10:43] <Zer0Byte___> i can login remotely
[10:46] <mate|93389> Hi friends, i could not install gstreamer0.10-plugins-ugly_0.10.19-2.1_i386.deb in ubuntu-mate 16.04
[10:47] <Zer0Byte___> what error u get?
[10:48] <mate|93389> Dependency is not satisfiable: libsidplay1
[10:48] <mate|93389> but it's already installed
[10:49] <gordonjcp> mate|93389: what exactly are you trying to do?
[10:49] <mate|93389> I already installed libsidplay1v5_1.36.59-8_i386.deb
[10:49] <Zer0Byte___> uname -a
[10:49] <Zer0Byte___> are u using 64 bit
[10:49] <Zer0Byte___> version?
[10:49] <mate|93389> i am trying to install the Gstreamer0.1 dependency to support 'mad'
[10:49] <mate|93389> 32 bit version , ubuntu-mate
[10:51] <mate|93389> Linux insight-desktop 4.4.0-21-generic #37-Ubuntu SMP Mon Apr 18 18:34:49 UTC 2016 i686 i686 i686 GNU/Linux
[10:51] <mate|93389> Linux insight-desktop 4.4.0-21-generic #37-Ubuntu SMP Mon Apr 18 18:34:49 UTC 2016 i686 i686 i686 GNU/Linux
[10:51] <mate|93389> Linux insight-desktop 4.4.0-21-generic #37-Ubuntu SMP Mon Apr 18 18:34:49 UTC 2016 i686 i686 i686 GNU/Linux
[10:51] <mate|93389> i see ubuntu-mate 6.04 support Gstreamer 0.1
[10:51] <mate|93389> Zer0Byte__,gordonjcp: any solution
[10:52] <gordonjcp> mate|93389: madplay?
[10:52] <mate|93389> yes
[10:52] <gordonjcp> "sudo apt-get install madplay"
[10:52] <gordonjcp> it's packaged already
[10:52] <gordonjcp> why are you buggering abut with ancient versions of gstreamer?
[10:53] <mate|93389> because our application in python use it
[10:53] <mate|93389> i installed mad now but still shows error
[10:54] <ouroumov> so Zer0Byte___, you're gonna have to dig into systemd documentation :/
[10:54] <mate|93389> decoder = gst.element_factory_make("mad", "mp3-decoder")
[10:54] <mate|93389> gst.ElementNotFoundError: mad
[10:55] <mate|93389> but when try to install once more show
[10:55] <mate|93389> madplay is already the newest version (0.15.2b-8)
[10:56] <gordonjcp> mate|93389: those gstreamer packages are ancient history
[10:56] <mate|93389> any body please help...I can avoid this by install in Debian Jessie
[10:56] <gordonjcp> are they even built for Ubuntu?
[10:56] <mate|93389> it's a deb file , which can use for both Ubuntu/Debian
[10:57] <mate|93389> but our main concern is Ubuntu
[10:57] <gordonjcp> no
[10:57] <gordonjcp> it's a .deb file which *might* be usable for both Ubuntu and Debian
[10:57] <gordonjcp> but on the other hand, it might not
[10:58] <gordonjcp> if you want to use Ubuntu 16.04 then you shouldn't really be installing packages from 2014
[10:58] <mate|93389> hmm
[10:58] <gordonjcp> at this point, I'd be looking at updating the Python code to work with the newer packages
[10:59] <mate|93389> but current situation changing all codebase is impossible
[10:59] <gordonjcp> well, maybe you can look at gstreamer packages from an older Ubuntu
[10:59] <mate|93389> i am ready to share my app for Blinds seeking help
[11:00] <mate|93389> it's for Blind communit
[11:00] <mate|93389> y
[11:00] <gordonjcp> they might not install directly but you could possibly adapt the debian/ directory so they'll build "old" gstreamer on a new Ubuntu
[11:01] <mate|93389> if any chance help
[11:01] <mate|93389> because change all code need atleast 3 months
[11:08] <Zer0Byte___> solved with x11vnc
[11:18] <bobii> hi
[11:19] <bobii> is it possible to force system use same battery mode power options in ac mode?because i have not  fan problem in battery mode.
[11:20] <mate|18792> hi
[11:21] <gordonjcp> bobii: right click on the little battery symbol, go to Preferences
[11:21] <gordonjcp> bobii: you can adjust what it does on mains or battery
[11:21] <mate|18792> i want to install ubuntu-mate on cubieboard 1 on nand
[11:21] <mate|18792> how to install?
[11:23] <ouroumov> Still no joy Zer0Byte___
[11:23] <ouroumov> I get an error when systemd attempts to start the service
[11:23] <Zer0Byte___> i already solved
[11:23] <Zer0Byte___> with x11vnc
[11:24] <ouroumov> Yeah but I'd like to know for Vino. Anyway I'll keep trying
[11:27] <mate|18792> any on pls tell me
[11:43] <Paddy_NI> I have not received an answer yet on #ubuntu so I shall try my luck here as there is crossover.
[11:43] <Paddy_NI> I have installed "ubuntu-desktop" on an Ubuntu MATE 16.04 installation and have run "sudo dpkg-reconfigure ubuntu-desktop" to which nothing happens only to be left with an Ubuntu Unity session that has no panel, desktop, dash or launcher.. Can anyone help?
[11:43] <Paddy_NI> This is to enable me to support my dad a little better really
[11:43] <Paddy_NI> MATE is still king
[11:55] <gordonjcp> Paddy_NI: weird, that should work
[11:56] <gordonjcp> Paddy_NI: you can log in with Unity desktop from the greeter, but you don't get a panel?
[12:05] <Guest_84848> Allah is doing
[12:05] <Guest_84848> sun is not doing Allah is doing
[12:06] <Guest_84848> moon is not doing Allah is doing
[12:06] <Guest_84848> stars are not doing Allah is doing
[12:06] <Akuli> this spammer was on #devuan previosly
[12:08] <Paddy_NI> gordonjcp, That's right nothing at all just the default wallpaper, I cannot even right click on the desktop and the windows key does nothing
[12:08] <Paddy_NI> gordonjcp, No keyboard shortcuts at all
[12:08] <Guest_84848> galaxies are not doing Allah is doing
[12:10] <Guest_84848> planets are not doing Allah is doing
[12:10] <gordonjcp> Guest_84848: God is not up for discussion here
[12:12] <gordonjcp> Paddy_NI: bit of a weird one
[12:12] <Guest_84848> oceans are not doing Allah is doing
[12:12] <gordonjcp> it definitely installed ubuntu-desktop and all its associated packages?
[12:12] <Guest_84848> mountains are not doing Allah is doing
[12:13] <Guest_84848> trees are not doing Allah is doing
[12:13] <Guest_84848> mom is not doing Allah is doing
[12:13] <Guest_84848> dad is not doing Allah is doing
[12:14] <Guest_84848> boss is not doing Allah is doing
[12:14] <Guest_84848> job is not doing Allah is doing
[12:14] <Guest_84848> dollar is not doing Allah is doing
[12:14] <Guest_84848> degree is not doing Allah is doing
[12:14] <gordonjcp> !ops
[12:15] <Guest_84848> medicine is not doing Allah is doing
[12:15] <Guest_84848> customers are not doing Allah is doing
[12:16] <Guest_84848> you can not get a job without the permission of allah
[12:16] <Guest_84848> you can not get married without the permission of allah
[12:17] <Guest_84848> nobody can get angry at you without the permission of allah
[12:17] <gordonjcp> Guest_84848: think you're in the wrong channel with that
[12:19] <Guest_84848> light is not doing Allah is doing
[12:20] <gordonjcp> hm, the ops factoid isn't most useful here
[12:21] <Guest_84848> fan is not doing Allah is doing
[12:25] <Guest_84848> businessess are not doing Allah is doing
[12:25] <Guest_84848> america is not doing Allah is doing
[12:27] <Guest_84848> fire can not burn without the permission of allah
[12:28] <YankDownUnder> I suppose that if I want to create and load a service that pertains specifically to a customised routine that I want to create, I have to ask allah for that as well, hmm...fair enough.
[12:28] <Paddy_NI> lol
[12:28]  * YankDownUnder wonders if anyone has bothered to feed the idiots today or if it's a full moon
[12:31] <YankDownUnder> Anyone have any issues installing Cinnamon alongside Mate...?
[12:33] <gordonjcp> Myrtti: ayeup mrs
[12:33] <gordonjcp> Myrtti: thanks for popping in
[12:33] <Myrtti> yw.
[12:43] <flexiondotorg> alkisg, https://bugs.launchpad.net/ubuntu/+source/ubuntu-mate-settings/+bug/1577706
[12:43] <flexiondotorg> See opening post and last post.
[13:12] <renato> hi
[13:13] <Guest13839> just had my fresh install of ubuntu mate 16.04 lts, id like to hear thoughts on upgrading the mate desktop to 1.14 now. Is it viable already or should i stick with the current version?
[13:18] <renatobariz> just send me a pvt message, i'll be afk for some time =)
[13:53] <bokmuske> Hi, I'm now on 16.04.
[13:54] <gordonjcp> bokmuske: cool
[13:54] <bokmuske> I fear I've accidentally overwritten my lay-out, though.
[13:54] <bokmuske> Does anyone know where to find a theme called "Fog"?
[13:58] <gordonjcp> gnome-look?
[13:58] <gordonjcp> is that maybe Adwaita-Fog?
[14:04] <bokmuske> Hm, I'll have a look, though it sounds like a muted Adwaita theme.
[14:09] <bokmuske> No, there are Fog-s at Gnome Look, but they all seem to be wallpapers. I can't recall what Fog did (something that used to be done by Mist, no doubt), but a wallpaper it wasN't.
[14:09] <gordonjcp> have you got a backup of your old homedir?
[14:10] <fifty-sevenC> I've accidently wiped my desktop layout a few times. :( I just decided I like the default the best and never touch it anyways.
[14:12] <gordonjcp> fifty-sevenC: sometimes I change my wallpaper
[14:12] <gordonjcp> I wish I had time to spend hours cocking about getting my menu bars just the right shade of bluey-grey
[14:13] <bokmuske> I do have a backup of my homedir, but the dir still has the themes in it that were there before, and Fog is not among them. But, I'll check anyway.
[14:13] <fifty-sevenC> In 16.04 there is a way to save a custom layout
[14:13] <fifty-sevenC> so you don't accidently wipe it anyways
[14:16] <bokmuske> Hm, now that you mention it; I was working on a custom theme; I could check whether the relevant parts of Fog were saved there, as soon as I know what they were.
[14:19] <mate|91015> Hi does anyone know how I can write with Chinese characters in UM?
[14:20] <fifty-sevenC> mate|91015, open a terminal and do sudo apt-get install ibus-pinyin ibus-sunpinyin
[14:21] <fifty-sevenC> then sudo ibus restart
[14:22] <fifty-sevenC> Then go into your language support settings enable chinese
[14:23] <mate|91015> I clicked on the button in the Welcome application > Language & Input > Complex Input > Chinese
[14:23] <fifty-sevenC> ok
[14:24] <fifty-sevenC> I'm not familiar with text entry besides English.
[14:25] <fifty-sevenC> It might not be installed completely
[14:25] <mate|91015> Is there any way to enable Chinese language support through a Software Manager?
[14:26] <fifty-sevenC> Do what I said earlier
[14:26] <fifty-sevenC> To open a terminal press ctrl+alt+t
[14:48] <bokmuske> Well, I guess I'll have to make do with what I have for now.
[14:49] <bokmuske> Next step: See how GIMP was improworsened this time.
[17:08] <bokmuske> Oh dear, now Firefox has those jumping scrollbars.
[17:08] <bokmuske> Does anyone know a way to avoid that?
[17:14] <thuselem>  Hello MATE team! Thanks for the 16.04 release, I have recently installed it and am loving it.
[17:15] <thuselem> I have one question. In the 15.04 version, using compiz, I could maximize a window using <Ctrl><Super>Up-arrow. I am not able to do this in the current release.
[17:15] <thuselem> Is there a way I can assign this keyboard shortcut?
[17:21] <bokmuske> There probably is, because I came across a short-cut table in my freshly installed/updated 16.04.
[17:24] <bokmuske> Could you check what Alt F10 does?
[17:26] <thuselem> Yes, Alt-F10 works. I guess I have the muscle memory of shifting my windows around with Ctrl-Super-... keystrokes. Left-arrow to the left, right-arrow to the right.
[17:26] <bokmuske> I don't see how to modify these keys; maybe someone else will know. But at least this one will let you maximise.
[17:28] <bokmuske> Ah, the configuration Centre has an entry for Short-Cut Keys. That's probably where to change them.
[17:28] <thuselem> Cool, thanks. Having the Alt-F10 is useful.
[17:30] <thuselem> Ah, yes. I see that, but no maximize. There does appear to be an option to add shortcuts, but I am not sure how I would configure it.
[17:33] <bokmuske> Maximise Windows is the one below the Toggle Maximisation (Alt F10) for me. You configure by clicking the line and then press the combination you want for it.
[17:38] <thuselem> Hmmm... did you bring up the configuration Centre with System > Control Center, then select Keyboard Shortcuts? (Pardon the US English :)
[18:03] <bokmuske> Indeed, I did.
[18:04] <ovrkode> Good afternoon! -- Just got done installing Ubuntu Mate on my pi loving it so far.
[18:05] <bokmuske> Good Evening.
[18:11] <ovrkode> Oh hai.
[18:20] <thuselem> Sorry, AFK. I don't see Toggle Maximization nor Maximize Windows advertised in my Keyboard Shortcuts.
[18:21] <thuselem> I will see if I can add the shortcut manually.
[18:27] <thuselem> Thanks for the direction bokmuske. I will try a few things later today and check back if I am still stymied.
[18:31] <Paddy_NI> Still no further forward with getting an Ubuntu Unity session working on "Ubuntu MATE 16.04"
[18:31] <Paddy_NI> brb
[18:35] <nomic> why?  doesn''t mate run mate desktop
[18:35] <nomic> why do you want to do that -- run unity on ubuntu
[18:37] <Paddy_NI> nomic, I installed "ubuntu-desktop" via apt and I had imagined like in the past I would have another working session to select from
[18:37] <Paddy_NI> nomic, It's quite normal to run several desktop environments and window managers on a single machine
[19:20] <Paddy_NI> Would it be possible that "Marco + Compton" is the culprit for my "Unity" session not working correctly?
[19:21] <Paddy_NI> If so how would I have them both live in harmony :-)
[20:49] <Naseem> Hi guys
[20:49] <Naseem> Ok so i installed unetbootin to make bootable usb for windows
[20:50] <Naseem> but after it writes it doesnt boot from usb
[20:50] <Naseem> i tired doing changes in bios
[20:50] <Naseem> didnt help
[20:50] <Naseem> any other software to make bootable usb for windows?
[20:52] <mkro> rufus
[20:54] <Naseem> tried ubuntu software with the name given
[20:55] <Naseem> no results found
[20:58] <Naseem> ???
[20:59] <Naseem> found it thanks
[21:00] <Naseem> Rufus
[21:00] <Naseem> Thanks mkro :)
[21:05] <Naseem> Sorry but its a exe extension and cant install it in ubuntu
[21:05] <Naseem> any other softwares which can help me
[21:06] <mkro> try it on wine
[21:52] <Naseem> ok
[22:42] <Artemis3> what do you mean with bootable usb for windows? you want a windows live? if so go ##windows