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amazoniantoad | Where can I download ubuntu touch? Does it turn into a full desktop when connected to a mouse/keyboard? | 06:58 |
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moritz311 | hey guys :) | 08:17 |
popey | morphis: :( https://bugs.launchpad.net/aethercast/+bug/1585933 | 08:27 |
ubot5` | Launchpad bug 1585933 in aethercast "aethercast no longer connects" [Undecided,New] | 08:27 |
morphis | popey: thanks but is a duplicate of https://bugs.launchpad.net/aethercast/+bug/1574444 | 08:28 |
ubot5` | Launchpad bug 1574444 in Canonical System Image "wpa_supplicant claims P2P support is not available" [Critical,In progress] | 08:28 |
morphis | popey: simply reboot | 08:29 |
popey | i have rebooted | 08:33 |
popey | (I said that in the bug) :) | 08:33 |
popey | many reboots later... it connects | 08:36 |
morphis | popey: hm, looks like I was a bit too was in saying its a duplicate | 08:56 |
morphis | popey: did you power cycle the dongle? | 08:56 |
popey | morphis: yes | 09:07 |
morphis | popey: and that didn't help? | 09:08 |
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popey | eventually after many reboots it did | 09:11 |
MasseR | Is anyone else having trouble opening the screen on UT device (nexus7) | 09:12 |
MasseR | As in, I can click the screen button for a couple of minutes before it opens the screen | 09:13 |
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emawolf | Hello. I own an Ubuntu Phone. Since I use LINE Messenger on android, I checked their website and saw they support FIrefox and Chrome, so maybe they could support Ubuntu Touch too | 09:30 |
emawolf | I searched for a contact email but found nothing. Would any dev have enought time to port the app to Ubuntu? | 09:31 |
emawolf | Or how can I contact LINE team in order to ask them directly? | 09:31 |
davmor2 | emawolf: just try using it in the web browser | 09:32 |
brunch875 | given the app lifecycle that might not work too well | 09:32 |
davmor2 | MasseR: no opens on tapping the button here but I'm on official devices here not nexus7 | 09:32 |
MasseR | davmor2: sorry, a bit difficult to follow, so you're having similar problems? | 09:33 |
emawolf_ | davmor2: how can I use it in the browser? Is it possible? | 09:34 |
davmor2 | MasseR: no it works fine here on the 5 devices I test | 09:34 |
MasseR | Ok thanks | 09:34 |
davmor2 | emawolf_: if it is supported in firefox and chrome the browser app is based on chrome's open source chromium browser so there is a good chance it will just work unless they have plugins for the browser to make it work | 09:35 |
emawolf_ | davmor2: Do i have to open chrome web store to install the exstension? | 09:36 |
davmor2 | emawolf_: the ubuntu browser has no store so that wouldn't work, it would need to not use a plugin | 09:37 |
emawolf_ | davmor: so maybe I can't use it with the browser.... I read the only way to use it on Chrome is install the app via the store | 09:38 |
emawolf_ | davmor2: How can I ask to LINE support about it? | 09:38 |
davmor2 | emawolf_: no idea | 09:39 |
emawolf_ | davmor2: For contacting support, there's only a web form in their page | 09:39 |
davmor2 | emawolf_: I would say that would be how you contact them then | 09:40 |
emawolf_ | davmor2: I'll try... if this wouldn't work, how could I contact others ubuntu devs who could be interested? | 09:41 |
davmor2 | emawolf_: you can ask here but I wouldn't hold your breath as the plugin side is likely to be proprietary and not available for devs outside the company to hack on | 09:44 |
davmor2 | emawolf_: so their webform would be the best place | 09:45 |
emawolf_ | davmor2: I'll try to contact the support team then, thank you | 09:47 |
davmor2 | no worries | 09:48 |
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colongolGron | hi | 11:45 |
colongolGron | I would be interested in the technical details of who ubuntu phone works | 11:45 |
colongolGron | actually in such details to rebuild something similar with a linux distro of my choice and include the programs of my choice | 11:45 |
davmor2 | colongolGron: that's not so easy | 11:51 |
colongolGron | davmor2: ok | 11:51 |
colongolGron | davmor2: could you explain to me the theory? | 11:51 |
s` | get android and build everything on top of it | 11:52 |
davmor2 | colongolGron: what theory you would need to completely rebuild the system from the ground up like the kubuntu team did, it is not an easy task | 11:52 |
popey | colongolGron: you're asking a big question, can you be more specific? | 11:53 |
popey | we have some presentations which give high level stuff about the architecture | 11:53 |
colongolGron | popey: since i have only a vague idea of how it is done, its hard for me to be more specific yet | 11:53 |
colongolGron | popey: that would be interesting. hopefully it would enable me to ask more detailed questions | 11:54 |
colongolGron | popey: if you could point me to those presentations it would be cool | 11:56 |
popey | yeah, if I can find them | 11:58 |
colongolGron | not too easy it seems :) | 12:06 |
popey | colongolGron: sorry, was in a meeting | 12:20 |
colongolGron | popey: no problem | 12:20 |
colongolGron | i am still here :) | 12:20 |
popey | colongolGron: had a look through some and they're a bit too high level | 12:20 |
colongolGron | well maybe they would interesting nevertheless | 12:20 |
popey | http://events.linuxfoundation.org/sites/events/files/slides/Ubuntu%20Touch%20Internals_1.pdf is agood start | 12:20 |
popey | a bit old | 12:21 |
popey | not sure what else we have. | 12:21 |
colongolGron | thanks for that one | 12:23 |
mardy | dobey: hi! I'm finally convinced, about the fact that we should let plugins specify which UI should be used for re-authenticating the user | 12:35 |
mardy | dobey: especially in order to implement immediate error messages and validation of fields (like "password must be at least 6 characters long") | 12:36 |
mardy | dobey: but... I'll first go with the ugly version, make it somehow acceptable, while working on the real one, which might take longer | 12:37 |
colongolGron | popey: okay i read it, it was interesting | 12:48 |
colongolGron | I wonder: on which devices can one run the ubuntu touch? | 12:49 |
popey | !devices | colongolGron | 12:50 |
ubot5` | colongolGron: You can find the full list of devices, official images, community images, and works in progress at https://wiki.ubuntu.com/Touch/Devices | 12:50 |
popey | colongolGron: basically Nexus 4, Nexus 7 (2013), bq e4.5, bq e5, bq M10, Meizu MX4, Meizu Pro 5. Plus a bunch of community ports including Nexus 5, OnePlus One. | 12:50 |
colongolGron | yay | 12:52 |
* colongolGron has a oneplus one | 12:52 | |
popey | Works quite nicely on that device. mariogrip maintains the port. | 12:53 |
colongolGron | thats good new | 12:53 |
colongolGron | s/new/news | 12:53 |
colongolGron | i was never concerned about this so i have no expeirence with it and have to ask: is it possible to put the vendors android back on the phone again after one put ubuntu touch on it? | 12:54 |
colongolGron | in case one wants to change back | 12:54 |
OsakaFoo | would it be easy to port on electron based program? | 12:58 |
OsakaFoo | s/on/an | 12:58 |
popey | colongolGron: yes | 13:04 |
colongolGron | popey: any preparations i should undertake before flashing the new on ontop? | 13:06 |
popey | on a oneplus one? ask mariogrip | 13:06 |
dobey | mardy: ok. i'm trying to get through reviewing the current branch | 13:09 |
tnth | Hello, I can't figure out how to use "sessionCookieMode" or "cookiePolicy" in the Main.qml file. I have tried setting "preferences.sessionCookieMode: persistent" this in the webconext section of the code but the app crashes. I am not a developer so any guidance is appreciated. | 13:47 |
pmcgowan | oSoMoN, or alex-abreu ^ | 13:50 |
alex-abreu | tnth, hi, I guess you are trying to develop an Ubuntuwebview based app? | 13:52 |
tnth | background is that I nabbed some qml code to create a google books app. While the code works great and I can read the books as long as I am online. When I am offline, the books do not show up when off line | 13:53 |
tnth | Hi alex-abreu, Yes I am | 13:53 |
alex-abreu | tnth, I am not familiar with the google books app, why are you trying to tweak the cookies to achieve offline support? | 13:55 |
tnth | Currently, as long as you have internet connection and you refresh the page, the books will disply for reading. When not connected to internet, the books do no show. I assumed that its because the cookies are cached or stored for the app to read. | 13:57 |
tnth | are not* | 13:57 |
tnth | This would help with trips or plane flights or camping. | 13:58 |
alex-abreu | tnth, I dont think that the cookies are related to the offline behavior, they usually are just used for state management & auth and are online related bits | 14:00 |
dobey | no, cookies are something that get sent to the server. if offline, there's no server to send them to | 14:00 |
dobey | it sounds like you want LocalStorage (HTML5 Storage), but i don't know if google books does that | 14:00 |
alex-abreu | tnth, did you try to manually download the books? | 14:00 |
alex-abreu | dobey, no localstorage is still another thing | 14:01 |
oSoMoN | tnth, try "sessionCookieMode: WebContext.SessionCookieModePersistent" | 14:01 |
oSoMoN | (not saying this is going to help with the offline behaviour, but it might help with your crash) | 14:02 |
alex-abreu | tnth, you shoudl remove the cookies bits | 14:02 |
tnth | Ah, thanks for the cookie info. I didn't know that and makes sense. In the app, you can download the book for offline mode an ( it also states downloaded) but with no internet connection, the webpage states offline and no books are displayed. | 14:04 |
moritz311 | http://pastebin.com/KdGaBbuY | 14:05 |
moritz311 | when syncing ubuntu touch with ubp-5.1 | 14:05 |
moritz311 | any idea ? | 14:05 |
alex-abreu | tnth, on what are you testing? | 14:05 |
tnth | @oSoMoN I will try that line to see if it helps with the crash for my own curiosity but will remove all cookie bits | 14:06 |
tnth | @alex-abreu I have a BQ FHD tablet | 14:07 |
alex-abreu | tnth, do you have your project handy? it might be easier for me to haev a look | 14:08 |
tnth | Alex, I do not have it online but I nabbed "Oliver Grawert" Googl+ code and just changed the URL patterns to google books. https://code.launchpad.net/~ogra/junk/google-plus-app -- Or I can send you a shared link to my code on google drive. Which do you prefer sir? | 14:12 |
dobey | pretty sure you need to hook up the localstorage bits | 14:13 |
tnth | @dobey, in the code it has "preferences.localStorageEnabled: true" Is this the same area you are referring too? | 14:16 |
mariogrip | colongolGron: nope, just flash on top of android works fine | 14:27 |
mariogrip | colongolGron: yeah, you can put vendor android back on it | 14:28 |
mariogrip | colongolGron: also if you just want to test ubuntu touch, you can use something called multirom if you got an rooted device | 14:28 |
brunch875 | https://clbin.com/wGjkuM.png | 14:33 |
brunch875 | https://clbin.com/TrRSma.png | 14:33 |
brunch875 | haha, what? | 14:33 |
popey | ooh, you're the second person to report that | 14:34 |
popey | davmor2: ^ | 14:34 |
brunch875 | I'm on rc-proposed by the way | 14:34 |
davmor2 | brunch875: there is a bug for it breakage in unity8 | 14:34 |
brunch875 | any steps I could follow to be helpful? | 14:35 |
davmor2 | brunch875: reboot gets rid of it :) | 14:35 |
davmor2 | https://bugs.launchpad.net/ubuntu/+source/unity8/+bug/1585645 | 14:36 |
ubot5` | Launchpad bug 1585645 in ubuntu-settings-components (Ubuntu) "Huge icons in network indicator" [Undecided,Triaged] | 14:36 |
brunch875 | I mean, apart from hitting 'affects me too', is there any tool I should run for dumps? | 14:36 |
brunch875 | to help you peeps debug and stuff | 14:36 |
davmor2 | brunch875: nope already being worked on | 14:36 |
brunch875 | thumbs up then, good luck! | 14:37 |
bqE5BlackScreen | Hi! I just purchased BQ E5 and it's screen goes to black all the time for about 5 sec.. Is this a know issue ? | 14:45 |
bqE5BlackScreen | I have tried to google that for an hour, but i cannot find anything.. :( | 14:46 |
mcphail | bqE5BlackScreen: doesn't sound normal to me | 14:46 |
davmor2 | bqE5BlackScreen: not a known issue that I know to | 14:47 |
pmcgowan | bqE5BlackScreen, just a guess, turn of autobrightness if its on? | 14:48 |
bqE5BlackScreen | I will check that out | 14:48 |
bqE5BlackScreen | autobrightness has been (and is still) turned off. | 14:51 |
bqE5BlackScreen | Do you think that i have received hw that has defect ? | 14:52 |
bqE5BlackScreen | I cannot use that phone more than 20-40 sec an then it goes to black screen | 14:53 |
bqE5BlackScreen | It will wake up from that usually after about 5 second, but sometimes 10%-20% is stucks for that long time | 14:54 |
pmcgowan | bqE5BlackScreen, what is the inactivity timer set to | 14:55 |
bqE5BlackScreen | only way to get it up, is to push power button (to shut down screen virtually (as it is black already)) and wait some time | 14:55 |
pmcgowan | but it blacks out while using it? | 14:55 |
bqE5BlackScreen | and then push power button again and it will wake up, if I waited long enough. | 14:56 |
bqE5BlackScreen | yes, it backs out when using it | 14:56 |
bqE5BlackScreen | screen saver timer is turned off (i was hoping that it would help on that) | 14:56 |
pmcgowan | never heard of a problem like this | 14:57 |
bqE5BlackScreen | I am not a developer, but if i can provide something useful information I am happy to do that | 14:58 |
pmcgowan | bqE5BlackScreen, so you do not see the system restarting, just the screen goes black | 14:59 |
bqE5BlackScreen | I can file a bug, if somebody can help me a bit.. (=give link where to file it) and help me produce something (logs?) to solve it | 14:59 |
pmcgowan | bqE5BlackScreen, you can file one at https://bugs.launchpad.net/canonical-devices-system-image/+filebug | 15:00 |
bqE5BlackScreen | otherways I am then planning to contact BQ and send this device back to them | 15:00 |
pmcgowan | include /var/log/syslog | 15:00 |
pmcgowan | but it sounds maybe like hardware issue | 15:00 |
bqE5BlackScreen | oki pmcgowan. I file a bug to that place and include that log. After that I return the device. Thanks! | 15:01 |
pmcgowan | bqE5BlackScreen, include your version info as well from about | 15:02 |
bqE5BlackScreen | ok. it is lates ot10.1 i thnk.. | 15:03 |
OsakaFoo | what is the best way to create an ssh tunnel for use with another app | 15:38 |
colongolGron | mariogrip: thanks i will look for multirom then first :) | 15:39 |
OsakaFoo | I've ran ssh -L .. on the terminal and netstat reports it - But my app seems to not want to connect - is there some persmissions I am missing? | 15:41 |
mcphail | OsakaFoo: well, the ssh client (and terminal) will be stopped when you switch to your app | 15:42 |
OsakaFoo | mcphail: ah so that's not the best route - atm I'm running the ssh from adb | 15:43 |
mcphail | OsakaFoo: aah. I don't think adb sessions get stopped | 15:44 |
OsakaFoo | just wanted to have weechat's glowing bear to go via ssh rather than tls - but I guess that's not sure a big issue | 15:44 |
OsakaFoo | s/sure/such | 15:44 |
moritz311 | someone have an idea why i'm not able to checkout ubuntu source ? | 15:49 |
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altker128 | Anyone using OTA-11 ? | 16:57 |
dobey | plenty of people use rc-proposed | 16:59 |
altker128 | Any thoughts on lag/delays? | 16:59 |
dobey | different devices are different | 17:00 |
OsakaFoo | is it possible to update my phoen to rc-proposed from stable, and then back to stable if it does not work well without losing data? | 17:01 |
dobey | mostly | 17:02 |
brunch875 | I use the aquaris e4.5 (which is mediocre hardware, right?) and I experience no lags on rc-proposed | 17:02 |
altker128 | brunch875: Did you have a different experience with lag prior to rc-proprosed? | 17:03 |
brunch875 | eh... not really, no... | 17:03 |
brunch875 | but I've been on rc-proposed for most of the time | 17:03 |
brunch875 | I think I've used the stable image only for two weeks after buying | 17:04 |
brunch875 | so more than a year now :Þ | 17:04 |
* OsakaFoo updates phone to dev | 17:47 | |
OsakaFoo | but first let me backup my stuff .. runs rsync | 17:48 |
* OsakaFoo hugs ubuntu | 17:48 | |
mcphail | OsakaFoo: is the dev channel working? rc-proposed is the usual option | 18:07 |
dobey | mcphail: no it's not | 18:12 |
dobey | (devel/devel-proposed not working, i mean) | 18:12 |
davmor2 | mcphail: actually the recommended one is stable :) if you want to test the latest and greatest then you can use rc-proposed. | 18:13 |
mcphail | davmor2: i assumed that was OsakaFoo's intention :) | 18:17 |
davmor2 | mcphail: :D | 18:18 |
OsakaFoo | indeed it is | 18:20 |
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ahoneybun | popey you picked my article for the Podcast? | 22:15 |
ahoneybun | :) | 22:15 |
popey | yup :) | 22:16 |
ahoneybun | sweet | 22:17 |
ahoneybun | trying to find it in the podcast | 22:17 |
popey | you'll find it if you listen to the whole thing | 22:17 |
ahoneybun | ohh | 22:18 |
ahoneybun | that's so cool lol | 22:20 |
ahoneybun | popey no comment about convergnce? | 22:21 |
ahoneybun | mm the Ubuntu Podcast does not work in Podbird? | 22:29 |
ahoneybun | ohhh | 22:29 |
ahoneybun | now it does | 22:29 |
popey | ahoneybun: we talked about the M10 in the previous episode :) | 22:33 |
ahoneybun | oh makes since | 22:33 |
ahoneybun | but Hangouts works now! | 22:33 |
ahoneybun | oh uNav works | 22:33 |
popey | \o/ | 22:33 |
ahoneybun | I had a screenshot of that working | 22:33 |
ahoneybun | on my 24in monitor too | 22:33 |
ahoneybun | popey the Nexus 7 does not handle close to the Nexus 4 though | 22:41 |
ahoneybun | that thing is smooth | 22:41 |
ahoneybun | hopefully OTA 12 fixes that | 22:41 |
popey | ahoneybun: eh? | 22:58 |
popey | i thought the specs of nexus 7 2013 and nexus 4 were similar | 22:58 |
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