=== _salem is now known as salem_ === salem_ is now known as _salem === chihchun_afk is now known as chihchun === chihchun is now known as chihchun_afk === chihchun_afk is now known as chihchun === ecloud is now known as ecloud_wfh [06:58] Where can I download ubuntu touch? Does it turn into a full desktop when connected to a mouse/keyboard? [08:17] hey guys :) [08:27] morphis: :( https://bugs.launchpad.net/aethercast/+bug/1585933 [08:27] Launchpad bug 1585933 in aethercast "aethercast no longer connects" [Undecided,New] [08:28] popey: thanks but is a duplicate of https://bugs.launchpad.net/aethercast/+bug/1574444 [08:28] Launchpad bug 1574444 in Canonical System Image "wpa_supplicant claims P2P support is not available" [Critical,In progress] [08:29] popey: simply reboot [08:33] i have rebooted [08:33] (I said that in the bug) :) [08:36] many reboots later... it connects [08:56] popey: hm, looks like I was a bit too was in saying its a duplicate [08:56] popey: did you power cycle the dongle? [09:07] morphis: yes [09:08] popey: and that didn't help? === chihchun is now known as chihchun_afk [09:11] eventually after many reboots it did [09:12] Is anyone else having trouble opening the screen on UT device (nexus7) [09:13] As in, I can click the screen button for a couple of minutes before it opens the screen === chihchun_afk is now known as chihchun [09:30] Hello. I own an Ubuntu Phone. Since I use LINE Messenger on android, I checked their website and saw they support FIrefox and Chrome, so maybe they could support Ubuntu Touch too [09:31] I searched for a contact email but found nothing. Would any dev have enought time to port the app to Ubuntu? [09:31] Or how can I contact LINE team in order to ask them directly? [09:32] emawolf: just try using it in the web browser [09:32] given the app lifecycle that might not work too well [09:32] MasseR: no opens on tapping the button here but I'm on official devices here not nexus7 [09:33] davmor2: sorry, a bit difficult to follow, so you're having similar problems? [09:34] davmor2: how can I use it in the browser? Is it possible? [09:34] MasseR: no it works fine here on the 5 devices I test [09:34] Ok thanks [09:35] emawolf_: if it is supported in firefox and chrome the browser app is based on chrome's open source chromium browser so there is a good chance it will just work unless they have plugins for the browser to make it work [09:36] davmor2: Do i have to open chrome web store to install the exstension? [09:37] emawolf_: the ubuntu browser has no store so that wouldn't work, it would need to not use a plugin [09:38] davmor: so maybe I can't use it with the browser.... I read the only way to use it on Chrome is install the app via the store [09:38] davmor2: How can I ask to LINE support about it? [09:39] emawolf_: no idea [09:39] davmor2: For contacting support, there's only a web form in their page [09:40] emawolf_: I would say that would be how you contact them then [09:41] davmor2: I'll try... if this wouldn't work, how could I contact others ubuntu devs who could be interested? [09:44] emawolf_: you can ask here but I wouldn't hold your breath as the plugin side is likely to be proprietary and not available for devs outside the company to hack on [09:45] emawolf_: so their webform would be the best place [09:47] davmor2: I'll try to contact the support team then, thank you [09:48] no worries === chihchun is now known as chihchun_afk === chihchun_afk is now known as chihchun === tathhu_ is now known as tathhu [11:45] hi [11:45] I would be interested in the technical details of who ubuntu phone works [11:45] actually in such details to rebuild something similar with a linux distro of my choice and include the programs of my choice [11:51] colongolGron: that's not so easy [11:51] davmor2: ok [11:51] davmor2: could you explain to me the theory? [11:52] get android and build everything on top of it [11:52] colongolGron: what theory you would need to completely rebuild the system from the ground up like the kubuntu team did, it is not an easy task [11:53] colongolGron: you're asking a big question, can you be more specific? [11:53] we have some presentations which give high level stuff about the architecture [11:53] popey: since i have only a vague idea of how it is done, its hard for me to be more specific yet [11:54] popey: that would be interesting. hopefully it would enable me to ask more detailed questions [11:56] popey: if you could point me to those presentations it would be cool [11:58] yeah, if I can find them [12:06] not too easy it seems :) [12:20] colongolGron: sorry, was in a meeting [12:20] popey: no problem [12:20] i am still here :) [12:20] colongolGron: had a look through some and they're a bit too high level [12:20] well maybe they would interesting nevertheless [12:20] http://events.linuxfoundation.org/sites/events/files/slides/Ubuntu%20Touch%20Internals_1.pdf is agood start [12:21] a bit old [12:21] not sure what else we have. [12:23] thanks for that one [12:35] dobey: hi! I'm finally convinced, about the fact that we should let plugins specify which UI should be used for re-authenticating the user [12:36] dobey: especially in order to implement immediate error messages and validation of fields (like "password must be at least 6 characters long") [12:37] dobey: but... I'll first go with the ugly version, make it somehow acceptable, while working on the real one, which might take longer [12:48] popey: okay i read it, it was interesting [12:49] I wonder: on which devices can one run the ubuntu touch? [12:50] !devices | colongolGron [12:50] colongolGron: You can find the full list of devices, official images, community images, and works in progress at https://wiki.ubuntu.com/Touch/Devices [12:50] colongolGron: basically Nexus 4, Nexus 7 (2013), bq e4.5, bq e5, bq M10, Meizu MX4, Meizu Pro 5. Plus a bunch of community ports including Nexus 5, OnePlus One. [12:52] yay [12:52] * colongolGron has a oneplus one [12:53] Works quite nicely on that device. mariogrip maintains the port. [12:53] thats good new [12:53] s/new/news [12:54] i was never concerned about this so i have no expeirence with it and have to ask: is it possible to put the vendors android back on the phone again after one put ubuntu touch on it? [12:54] in case one wants to change back [12:58] would it be easy to port on electron based program? [12:58] s/on/an [13:04] colongolGron: yes [13:06] popey: any preparations i should undertake before flashing the new on ontop? [13:06] on a oneplus one? ask mariogrip [13:09] mardy: ok. i'm trying to get through reviewing the current branch [13:47] Hello, I can't figure out how to use "sessionCookieMode" or "cookiePolicy" in the Main.qml file. I have tried setting "preferences.sessionCookieMode: persistent" this in the webconext section of the code but the app crashes. I am not a developer so any guidance is appreciated. [13:50] oSoMoN, or alex-abreu ^ [13:52] tnth, hi, I guess you are trying to develop an Ubuntuwebview based app? [13:53] background is that I nabbed some qml code to create a google books app. While the code works great and I can read the books as long as I am online. When I am offline, the books do not show up when off line [13:53] Hi alex-abreu, Yes I am [13:55] tnth, I am not familiar with the google books app, why are you trying to tweak the cookies to achieve offline support? [13:57] Currently, as long as you have internet connection and you refresh the page, the books will disply for reading. When not connected to internet, the books do no show. I assumed that its because the cookies are cached or stored for the app to read. [13:57] are not* [13:58] This would help with trips or plane flights or camping. [14:00] tnth, I dont think that the cookies are related to the offline behavior, they usually are just used for state management & auth and are online related bits [14:00] no, cookies are something that get sent to the server. if offline, there's no server to send them to [14:00] it sounds like you want LocalStorage (HTML5 Storage), but i don't know if google books does that [14:00] tnth, did you try to manually download the books? [14:01] dobey, no localstorage is still another thing [14:01] tnth, try "sessionCookieMode: WebContext.SessionCookieModePersistent" [14:02] (not saying this is going to help with the offline behaviour, but it might help with your crash) [14:02] tnth, you shoudl remove the cookies bits [14:04] Ah, thanks for the cookie info. I didn't know that and makes sense. In the app, you can download the book for offline mode an ( it also states downloaded) but with no internet connection, the webpage states offline and no books are displayed. [14:05] http://pastebin.com/KdGaBbuY [14:05] when syncing ubuntu touch with ubp-5.1 [14:05] any idea ? [14:05] tnth, on what are you testing? [14:06] @oSoMoN I will try that line to see if it helps with the crash for my own curiosity but will remove all cookie bits [14:07] @alex-abreu I have a BQ FHD tablet [14:08] tnth, do you have your project handy? it might be easier for me to haev a look [14:12] Alex, I do not have it online but I nabbed "Oliver Grawert" Googl+ code and just changed the URL patterns to google books. https://code.launchpad.net/~ogra/junk/google-plus-app -- Or I can send you a shared link to my code on google drive. Which do you prefer sir? [14:13] pretty sure you need to hook up the localstorage bits [14:16] @dobey, in the code it has "preferences.localStorageEnabled: true" Is this the same area you are referring too? [14:27] colongolGron: nope, just flash on top of android works fine [14:28] colongolGron: yeah, you can put vendor android back on it [14:28] colongolGron: also if you just want to test ubuntu touch, you can use something called multirom if you got an rooted device [14:33] https://clbin.com/wGjkuM.png [14:33] https://clbin.com/TrRSma.png [14:33] haha, what? [14:34] ooh, you're the second person to report that [14:34] davmor2: ^ [14:34] I'm on rc-proposed by the way [14:34] brunch875: there is a bug for it breakage in unity8 [14:35] any steps I could follow to be helpful? [14:35] brunch875: reboot gets rid of it :) [14:36] https://bugs.launchpad.net/ubuntu/+source/unity8/+bug/1585645 [14:36] Launchpad bug 1585645 in ubuntu-settings-components (Ubuntu) "Huge icons in network indicator" [Undecided,Triaged] [14:36] I mean, apart from hitting 'affects me too', is there any tool I should run for dumps? [14:36] to help you peeps debug and stuff [14:36] brunch875: nope already being worked on [14:37] thumbs up then, good luck! [14:45] Hi! I just purchased BQ E5 and it's screen goes to black all the time for about 5 sec.. Is this a know issue ? [14:46] I have tried to google that for an hour, but i cannot find anything.. :( [14:46] bqE5BlackScreen: doesn't sound normal to me [14:47] bqE5BlackScreen: not a known issue that I know to [14:48] bqE5BlackScreen, just a guess, turn of autobrightness if its on? [14:48] I will check that out [14:51] autobrightness has been (and is still) turned off. [14:52] Do you think that i have received hw that has defect ? [14:53] I cannot use that phone more than 20-40 sec an then it goes to black screen [14:54] It will wake up from that usually after about 5 second, but sometimes 10%-20% is stucks for that long time [14:55] bqE5BlackScreen, what is the inactivity timer set to [14:55] only way to get it up, is to push power button (to shut down screen virtually (as it is black already)) and wait some time [14:55] but it blacks out while using it? [14:56] and then push power button again and it will wake up, if I waited long enough. [14:56] yes, it backs out when using it [14:56] screen saver timer is turned off (i was hoping that it would help on that) [14:57] never heard of a problem like this [14:58] I am not a developer, but if i can provide something useful information I am happy to do that [14:59] bqE5BlackScreen, so you do not see the system restarting, just the screen goes black [14:59] I can file a bug, if somebody can help me a bit.. (=give link where to file it) and help me produce something (logs?) to solve it [15:00] bqE5BlackScreen, you can file one at https://bugs.launchpad.net/canonical-devices-system-image/+filebug [15:00] otherways I am then planning to contact BQ and send this device back to them [15:00] include /var/log/syslog [15:00] but it sounds maybe like hardware issue [15:01] oki pmcgowan. I file a bug to that place and include that log. After that I return the device. Thanks! [15:02] bqE5BlackScreen, include your version info as well from about [15:03] ok. it is lates ot10.1 i thnk.. [15:38] what is the best way to create an ssh tunnel for use with another app [15:39] mariogrip: thanks i will look for multirom then first :) [15:41] I've ran ssh -L .. on the terminal and netstat reports it - But my app seems to not want to connect - is there some persmissions I am missing? [15:42] OsakaFoo: well, the ssh client (and terminal) will be stopped when you switch to your app [15:43] mcphail: ah so that's not the best route - atm I'm running the ssh from adb [15:44] OsakaFoo: aah. I don't think adb sessions get stopped [15:44] just wanted to have weechat's glowing bear to go via ssh rather than tls - but I guess that's not sure a big issue [15:44] s/sure/such [15:49] someone have an idea why i'm not able to checkout ubuntu source ? === chihchun is now known as chihchun_afk [16:57] Anyone using OTA-11 ? [16:59] plenty of people use rc-proposed [16:59] Any thoughts on lag/delays? [17:00] different devices are different [17:01] is it possible to update my phoen to rc-proposed from stable, and then back to stable if it does not work well without losing data? [17:02] mostly [17:02] I use the aquaris e4.5 (which is mediocre hardware, right?) and I experience no lags on rc-proposed [17:03] brunch875: Did you have a different experience with lag prior to rc-proprosed? [17:03] eh... not really, no... [17:03] but I've been on rc-proposed for most of the time [17:04] I think I've used the stable image only for two weeks after buying [17:04] so more than a year now :Þ [17:47] * OsakaFoo updates phone to dev [17:48] but first let me backup my stuff .. runs rsync [17:48] * OsakaFoo hugs ubuntu [18:07] OsakaFoo: is the dev channel working? rc-proposed is the usual option [18:12] mcphail: no it's not [18:12] (devel/devel-proposed not working, i mean) [18:13] mcphail: actually the recommended one is stable :) if you want to test the latest and greatest then you can use rc-proposed. [18:17] davmor2: i assumed that was OsakaFoo's intention :) [18:18] mcphail: :D [18:20] indeed it is === Undertasker1 is now known as Undertasker [22:15] popey you picked my article for the Podcast? [22:15] :) [22:16] yup :) [22:17] sweet [22:17] trying to find it in the podcast [22:17] you'll find it if you listen to the whole thing [22:18] ohh [22:20] that's so cool lol [22:21] popey no comment about convergnce? [22:29] mm the Ubuntu Podcast does not work in Podbird? [22:29] ohhh [22:29] now it does [22:33] ahoneybun: we talked about the M10 in the previous episode :) [22:33] oh makes since [22:33] but Hangouts works now! [22:33] oh uNav works [22:33] \o/ [22:33] I had a screenshot of that working [22:33] on my 24in monitor too [22:41] popey the Nexus 7 does not handle close to the Nexus 4 though [22:41] that thing is smooth [22:41] hopefully OTA 12 fixes that [22:58] ahoneybun: eh? [22:58] i thought the specs of nexus 7 2013 and nexus 4 were similar