| _stink_ | yo | 00:54 |
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| rick_h_ | evening | 01:28 |
| cmaloney | morning! | 13:45 |
| cmaloney | How's the day so far? | 13:46 |
| rick_h_ | not too bad | 13:46 |
| * rick_h_ is in the woods | 13:46 | |
| rick_h_ | albiet in the woods backed up to a road | 13:46 |
| cmaloney | rick_h_: That didn't take long. :) | 13:46 |
| rick_h_ | no, got in last night | 13:47 |
| rick_h_ | got one of the last 2 spots in the campgroudnm | 13:47 |
| rick_h_ | holiday weekend rush to get a spot | 13:47 |
| cmaloney | Didn't even give it a proper pre-flight check. ;) | 13:47 |
| rick_h_ | only way to test it is to use it! | 13:47 |
| rick_h_ | though do need to head back to the house for a few things that I missed while loading yesterday | 13:48 |
| cmaloney | heh | 13:48 |
| cmaloney | Though if you're only "up the street" then it's not too big of a deal | 13:48 |
| rick_h_ | yea, it's a 15min drive down dixie hwy | 13:49 |
| cmaloney | Yeah, that's "towing distance" | 13:49 |
| rick_h_ | towing distance is anywhere! :P | 13:49 |
| cmaloney | heh | 13:49 |
| rick_h_ | kind of bummed we're not going as many miles this year as last year | 13:50 |
| * rick_h_ needs to find some more states to visit | 13:50 | |
| cmaloney | Ask Congress about Puerto Rico | 13:50 |
| cmaloney | and the Virgin Islands. | 13:50 |
| cmaloney | I think we're overdue for some new states | 13:51 |
| cmaloney | Also: do they do camping in Europe? :) | 13:52 |
| mrgoodcat | morning | 13:56 |
| cmaloney | https://www.reddit.com/r/programming/comments/4l24hn/ <- MySQL is a better NoSQL | 14:04 |
| jrwren | rick_h_: you working from that woods? | 14:05 |
| jrwren | cmaloney: i just threw up in my mouth a little. | 14:06 |
| jrwren | oh.... but compared to mongodb, I'll agree! | 14:06 |
| cmaloney | heh | 14:07 |
| jrwren | lol "MongoDB: so bad that it makes MySQL look good in comparison." | 14:07 |
| cmaloney | Basically they take away a lot of the things that MySQL does poorly (transactions, joins) and suddenly it's performant | 14:07 |
| jrwren | that is well known for ANY RDBMS. | 14:08 |
| jrwren | amazon told us that 15yrs ago. | 14:08 |
| cmaloney | Right but it's humorous to see MongoDB get the whipping it deserves | 14:09 |
| cmaloney | MongoDB is terrible. Period. | 14:09 |
| rick_h_ | jrwren: yep | 14:10 |
| * rick_h_ wants to stand up for the product his teams use...and can't | 14:11 | |
| wolfger | Mongo vs Access: go! | 14:11 |
| jrwren | I prefer Access. | 14:11 |
| rick_h_ | mongodb brought something to the table when it had a form of HA before others did | 14:11 |
| rick_h_ | but ... now not so applicaable | 14:11 |
| jrwren | rick_h_: that is a fair point. | 14:11 |
| jrwren | rick_h_: and honestly, I don't think I'd hate mongo nearly as much if we weren't using gridfs. | 14:11 |
| rick_h_ | it's why Juju used it, they'd get HA for "free" | 14:11 |
| jrwren | hahaha, NEVER believe you get something "free" ;] | 14:12 |
| rick_h_ | jrwren: true enough | 14:12 |
| rick_h_ | (on the gridfs front) | 14:12 |
| jrwren | i definitely succomb to teh temptation often enough. | 14:12 |
| jrwren | re: mysql scaling: slashdot showed us this in 1998 when they had insanely high page views for DB page rendering at the time. | 14:13 |
| cmaloney | jrwren: Yep. Slashdot was a testament to the 1990's LAMP stack | 14:18 |
| cmaloney | P being Perl | 14:18 |
| greg-g | and wikipedia is the other P LAMP stack testament :) | 18:26 |
| wolfger | P LAMP? | 18:36 |
| jrwren | choose your P. we have perl and php covered. Someone give python and pike examples :] | 18:40 |
| cmaloney | There's alleged pr0n sites running Turbogears. ;) | 18:43 |
| cmaloney | Though not sure what their database is. | 18:43 |
| jrwren | reddit is django, but I don't know if they use mysql or other. | 18:44 |
| cmaloney | Well, iirc Reddit started off in LISP so it's anyone's guess what they use for a backend | 18:45 |
| jrwren | postgresql | 18:46 |
| jrwren | http://highscalability.com/blog/2013/8/26/reddit-lessons-learned-from-mistakes-made-scaling-to-1-billi.html | 18:46 |
| jrwren | started off in lisp because paul graham has strong opinions :p | 18:46 |
| cmaloney | Honestly PostgreSQL is the answer to a lot of life's questions | 18:46 |
| jrwren | truth. | 18:46 |
| cmaloney | That's HN | 18:46 |
| jrwren | i'll be quoting you on that. | 18:47 |
| cmaloney | Reddit was not a Paul Grahm joint iirc | 18:47 |
| jrwren | cmaloney: read the url I just pasted and learn otherwise :p | 18:47 |
| cmaloney | No! You can't make me learn. | 18:47 |
| cmaloney | AAIIIUUUGGGHHH! | 18:47 |
| cmaloney | I'M ENLIGHTENED AND IT HURTS! | 18:47 |
| wolfger | heh | 18:48 |
| cmaloney | https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Alexis_Ohanian | 18:48 |
| wolfger | Enlightenment was always one of my favorite desktops | 18:48 |
| jrwren | Enlightenment turned into a still interesting C gui toolkit. | 18:49 |
| cmaloney | Yeah, Enlightenment was when folks were still interested in doing neat things with X | 19:42 |
| cmaloney | I still think X is a great system, but I understand it's getting way long in the tooth | 19:43 |
| cmaloney | I'm just glad it's lasted as long as it has | 19:43 |
| jrwren | X has the big problem: no security. | 19:43 |
| cmaloney | worse, terrible security | 19:44 |
| cmaloney | There's a minimal effort to lock it down and it's laugably naive. | 19:44 |
| jrwren | mir and wayland will get us there. | 19:46 |
| cmaloney | I hope so | 19:48 |
| cmaloney | my fear is they'll muddy the waters | 19:48 |
| jrwren | they'll do that too. | 19:49 |
| cmaloney | Apparently the jury came to a verdict on Oracle vs. Google. | 20:00 |
| cmaloney | I think there's only one correct verdict in this case: | 20:01 |
| cmaloney | ¯\_(ツ)_/¯ | 20:01 |
| cmaloney | They found for Google | 20:03 |
| cmaloney | Fucking Hallelujah | 20:03 |
| brousch | So we're not all out of jobs? | 20:12 |
| cmaloney | Thankfully | 20:13 |
| cmaloney | And I'm only slightly ashamed that I find the jury wise with this decision. Had they found for Oracle I would consider them dense. | 20:13 |
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