[00:54] <_stink_> yo [01:28] evening [13:45] morning! [13:46] How's the day so far? [13:46] not too bad [13:46] * rick_h_ is in the woods [13:46] albiet in the woods backed up to a road [13:46] rick_h_: That didn't take long. :) [13:47] no, got in last night [13:47] got one of the last 2 spots in the campgroudnm [13:47] holiday weekend rush to get a spot [13:47] Didn't even give it a proper pre-flight check. ;) [13:47] only way to test it is to use it! [13:48] though do need to head back to the house for a few things that I missed while loading yesterday [13:48] heh [13:48] Though if you're only "up the street" then it's not too big of a deal [13:49] yea, it's a 15min drive down dixie hwy [13:49] Yeah, that's "towing distance" [13:49] towing distance is anywhere! :P [13:49] heh [13:50] kind of bummed we're not going as many miles this year as last year [13:50] * rick_h_ needs to find some more states to visit [13:50] Ask Congress about Puerto Rico [13:50] and the Virgin Islands. [13:51] I think we're overdue for some new states [13:52] Also: do they do camping in Europe? :) [13:56] morning [14:04] https://www.reddit.com/r/programming/comments/4l24hn/ <- MySQL is a better NoSQL [14:05] rick_h_: you working from that woods? [14:06] cmaloney: i just threw up in my mouth a little. [14:06] oh.... but compared to mongodb, I'll agree! [14:07] heh [14:07] lol "MongoDB: so bad that it makes MySQL look good in comparison." [14:07] Basically they take away a lot of the things that MySQL does poorly (transactions, joins) and suddenly it's performant [14:08] that is well known for ANY RDBMS. [14:08] amazon told us that 15yrs ago. [14:09] Right but it's humorous to see MongoDB get the whipping it deserves [14:09] MongoDB is terrible. Period. [14:10] jrwren: yep [14:11] * rick_h_ wants to stand up for the product his teams use...and can't [14:11] Mongo vs Access: go! [14:11] I prefer Access. [14:11] mongodb brought something to the table when it had a form of HA before others did [14:11] but ... now not so applicaable [14:11] rick_h_: that is a fair point. [14:11] rick_h_: and honestly, I don't think I'd hate mongo nearly as much if we weren't using gridfs. [14:11] it's why Juju used it, they'd get HA for "free" [14:12] hahaha, NEVER believe you get something "free" ;] [14:12] jrwren: true enough [14:12] (on the gridfs front) [14:12] i definitely succomb to teh temptation often enough. [14:13] re: mysql scaling: slashdot showed us this in 1998 when they had insanely high page views for DB page rendering at the time. [14:18] jrwren: Yep. Slashdot was a testament to the 1990's LAMP stack [14:18] P being Perl [18:26] and wikipedia is the other P LAMP stack testament :) [18:36] P LAMP? [18:40] choose your P. we have perl and php covered. Someone give python and pike examples :] [18:43] There's alleged pr0n sites running Turbogears. ;) [18:43] Though not sure what their database is. [18:44] reddit is django, but I don't know if they use mysql or other. [18:45] Well, iirc Reddit started off in LISP so it's anyone's guess what they use for a backend [18:46] postgresql [18:46] http://highscalability.com/blog/2013/8/26/reddit-lessons-learned-from-mistakes-made-scaling-to-1-billi.html [18:46] started off in lisp because paul graham has strong opinions :p [18:46] Honestly PostgreSQL is the answer to a lot of life's questions [18:46] truth. [18:46] That's HN [18:47] i'll be quoting you on that. [18:47] Reddit was not a Paul Grahm joint iirc [18:47] cmaloney: read the url I just pasted and learn otherwise :p [18:47] No! You can't make me learn. [18:47] AAIIIUUUGGGHHH! [18:47] I'M ENLIGHTENED AND IT HURTS! [18:48] heh [18:48] https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Alexis_Ohanian [18:48] Enlightenment was always one of my favorite desktops [18:49] Enlightenment turned into a still interesting C gui toolkit. [19:42] Yeah, Enlightenment was when folks were still interested in doing neat things with X [19:43] I still think X is a great system, but I understand it's getting way long in the tooth [19:43] I'm just glad it's lasted as long as it has [19:43] X has the big problem: no security. [19:44] worse, terrible security [19:44] There's a minimal effort to lock it down and it's laugably naive. [19:46] mir and wayland will get us there. [19:48] I hope so [19:48] my fear is they'll muddy the waters [19:49] they'll do that too. [20:00] Apparently the jury came to a verdict on Oracle vs. Google. [20:01] I think there's only one correct verdict in this case: [20:01] ¯\_(ツ)_/¯ [20:03] They found for Google [20:03] Fucking Hallelujah [20:12] So we're not all out of jobs? [20:13] Thankfully [20:13] And I'm only slightly ashamed that I find the jury wise with this decision. Had they found for Oracle I would consider them dense. === gamerchick02_ is now known as gamerchick02