[00:00] <nemmonszzz> there is a Unison config setting (perms) which control which parts of the file permission to synchronize, but if i try to use it, i get the error 'Error in setting file ownership: Operation not permitted'
[00:01] <nacc> nemmonszzz: quick glance at their manual implies that it's tied to umask on the remote end if it's a new file
[00:03] <nemmonszzz> oh wow
[00:03] <nemmonszzz> you are an absolute livesaver
[00:03] <nemmonszzz> i must have read that paragraph a few times but because i had no idea what umask was, i just ignored it. with you specifically pointing it out i now see how it's very relevant
[00:04] <nacc> nemmonszzz: there coudl be a real bug, but i'd suspect umask first :)
[00:04] <nemmonszzz> no you're definitely right. the umask on server-2 is 002
[00:04] <nacc> nemmonszzz: yep, i think that's the default now (it is that way for me on 16.04 as well)
[00:04] <nemmonszzz> do you see any inherent harm in me changing that to 022?
[00:05] <nacc> nemmonszzz: well, it will make all files have g+w, i think
[00:05] <nemmonszzz> err no, that's not the one i want.
[00:05] <nacc> nemmonszzz: it doesn't seem to 'and' the permissions, it just takes the umask value (aiui)
[00:05] <nemmonszzz> ah i see. okay
[00:06] <nacc> nemmonszzz: i'm not sure what unison buys you, or why you're using it, but perhaps rsync would be better :)
[00:06] <nacc> nemmonszzz: the other thing you run into is that, based upon that same paragraph, the permissions ont he remote don't meant hte same thing
[00:06] <nacc> as the uid and gid aren't copied (cna't be, really)
[00:06] <nacc> so the effective user and group aren't the same as on server-1 necessarily
[00:06] <nacc> nemmonszzz: it's forced over to the unison server's user and group, i think
[00:07] <nemmonszzz> in this case they are for sure because the servers were made from the same puppet config,
[00:07] <nemmonszzz> or, at least, i think that means the user and group would be the same across servers
[00:07] <nacc> nemmonszzz: does unison run as www-data on server-2 ?
[00:07] <nacc> nemmonszzz: no i mean implementation wise they don't do that
[00:07] <nacc> nemmonszzz: "The Unix owner and group ids are not propagated. (What would this mean, in general?) All files are created with the owner and group of the server process. "
[00:07] <nemmonszzz> oh i see
[00:08] <nacc> so www-data:www-data rw-rw---- on server1 becomes <unison user>:<unison group> <umask> on server2
[00:08] <nacc> afaict
[00:08] <nemmonszzz> yeah, that's fine because unison user on server 2 is part of www-data anyway
[00:09] <nemmonszzz> that was the first hurdle i had to figure out a few hours ago
[00:09] <nacc> i don't know anything about unison, and don't know why you are using it, but i'll say 'rsync' again :)
[00:09] <nacc> i guess unison is a rsync implementation, reading a bit more?
[00:09] <nemmonszzz> yeah so i picked unison as a quick and dirty way to do two-way file sync between two servers
[00:09] <nemmonszzz> yeah it is
[00:09] <nemmonszzz> i thought rsync was just 1-way?
[00:10] <nacc> nemmonszzz: i mean it'd be two steps, i guess, but it does look like (on cursory googling) unison is a common answer to how to do 2-way rsyncs :)
[00:11] <nemmonszzz> yeah, that's how i found it =)
[00:11] <nacc> there's apparently bsync and osync
[00:11] <nemmonszzz> basically what happened was that i had a web application running on a server, i moved it to a more robust 2-server setup behind a load balancer, then realized i had some user-uploaded content that i needed to have synced between the two
[00:11] <nacc> nemmonszzz: alright, you've sent me down a rathole, i think you at least have an answer now :)
[00:12] <nemmonszzz> nacc yes, thank you very much. huge help. one of these days i'll learn to read allll the documentation rather than just select bits.
[00:12] <nacc> nemmonszzz: you should tell the unison folks to crossref their documentation with manpages
[00:12] <nacc> nemmonszzz: would make it more obvious when a unix-y thing is being mentioned
[00:42] <kaz> Is anyone active?
[00:43] <Arcaire> yeah i work out a couple hours before bed and walk about 5-7km a day.
[00:43] <Bashing-om> kaz: Depends on what it takes to raise a head . Ask your question .
[00:43] <Arcaire> I guess I could say I'm pretty active.
[00:43] <somsip> !ot | Arcaire
[00:43] <Arcaire> I bet you were trembling to do that.
[00:47] <kaz> my system when playing games used to run fine. I could play nexuiz great but now it I can barely play nexuiz at low settings. Any ideas? I just updated ubuntu.
[00:47] <kaz> 16.04 btw
[00:47] <Arcaire> kaz: Do you know what graphics drivers you're using? Now and before.
[00:48] <kaz> I never installed drivers. I assume it should be the intel int. graphics
[00:49] <kaz> or some asus onboard graphics
[00:49] <somsip> kaz: sudo lshw -c Video will tell you what board you have
[00:49] <kaz> k 1 sec
[00:50] <kaz> *-display:0
[00:50] <kaz>        description: VGA compatible controller
[00:50] <kaz>        product: 4 Series Chipset Integrated Graphics Controller
[00:50] <kaz>        vendor: Intel Corporation
[00:50] <kaz>        physical id: 2
[00:50] <kaz>        bus info: pci@0000:00:02.0
[00:50] <tonyt> not very smart lol
[00:52] <ash_workz> I get errors on `sudo apt-get dist-upgrade` https://gist.github.com/anonymous/319f47a15340c71c8e64597d205d9384
[00:52] <ash_workz> any ideas?
[00:52] <kaz> my question first lol
[00:53] <somsip> kaz: no, everyone asks and anyone helps if they can. Check what driver you're using with "lspci -k | grep -ia2  vga"
[00:53] <Bashing-om> ash_workz: What release ? ' cat /etc/issue '
[00:54] <nacc> ash_workz: also there wil be more output than that, please provide the *full* output on the terminal, including the command run
[00:55] <somsip> !info libnet-amazon-ec2-perl trusty
[00:58] <k1l_> ash_workz: what is all the output? this just indicates there is something more going wrong
[01:00] <ash_workz> waiting for output :)
[01:00] <schlieffen> :v
[01:00] <ash_workz> Bashing-om: Ubuntu 14.04.4 LTS
[01:01] <Bashing-om> ash_workz: K . waiting for the requested outputs :)
[01:03] <ash_workz> my too o.o;
[01:04] <ash_workz> s/y/e
[01:04] <drama> i added a usb wifi adapter and forgot the password for the pop up and now https doesn't work
[01:05] <ash_workz> taking an abnormal amount of time imo
[01:08] <ash_workz> not it says it's out of space
[01:10] <ash_workz> I wish I had set it up with more disk space for boot when I first installed ubuntu
[01:10] <Bashing-om> ash_workz: Then . 'df -h ; df -i ; dpkg -l | grep linux- ' in a pastebin .
[01:12] <ash_workz> Bashing-om: https://gist.github.com/anonymous/c3fc304976aff6ea4259ab9dde3b0e9a
[01:13] <Bashing-om> ash_workz: Look'n .
[01:13] <somsip> !info libnet-amazon-ec2-perl
[01:16] <Bashing-om> ash_workz: Probably will not work .. but try ' sudo apt-get autoremove ' to try to get some head room by removimg old kernels .
[01:36] <Guest_node> Hi. When is 16.04.1 released?
[01:36] <Bashing-om> ash_workz: We resorting to a manual kernel removal procedure ?
[01:37] <Bashing-om> Guest_node: Prposed as July 21 .
[01:38] <omsig> Hello,can someone help me,I have installed Xubunt 16.4 and in Terminal is no sound card ?He can also not foud the alsamixer.What can I do?
[01:39] <Bashing-om> !sound | omsig
[01:40] <ash_workz> Bashing-om: sorry, if it's not one thing it's another :\
[01:41] <omsig> I do this help ubuntu for sound and a lot of other,but nothing works :(
[01:41] <ash_workz> Bashing-om: https://gist.github.com/anonymous/ae9819c55be138f6892e7c96687ef9f5
[01:42] <Bashing-om> ash_workz: Look'n ,
[01:42] <Guest_node> Hi. When is 16.04.1 released?
[01:43] <nacc> !ltsupgrade | Guest_node
[01:43] <Guest_node> Thanks
[01:43] <somsip> Bashing-om: you need manual removal. Check what kernel is in use, go to /usr/src and delete the contents of a directory for a kernel that is not in use, eg: sudo rm -rf linux-headers-3.13.0-64/*. If you remove the dir, apt-get will complain. You may need to remove a couple of them
[01:44] <somsip> ash_workz: ^^^ (not Bashing-om - sorry)
[01:44] <somsip> ash_workz: and dont delete any that are not yet configured, so leave *-59 in there
[01:45] <nacc> somsip: that doesn't seem like the correct advice, sorry
[01:45] <nacc> i believe /boot is full
[01:45] <nacc> not /
[01:45] <omsig> I have kernel 4.2 or someting like this
[01:45] <somsip> nacc: quite right - I misread the df -h paste.
[01:45] <nacc> ash_workz: did you do an autoremove?
[01:46] <somsip> ash_workz: forget everything I just said :)
[01:46] <nacc> somsip: sorry, didn't want ash_workz to go down the wrong path
[01:46] <somsip> nacc: not at all. I'm happy to be corrected when I'm wrong.
[01:46] <ash_workz> somsip: that's the 'appropriate' way to do that? I know linux has a fairly detailed service for these things
[01:46] <somsip> ash_workz: wrong track - my mistake for confusing the issue.
[01:46] <ash_workz> autoremove resulted in errors
[01:46] <nacc> ash_workz: stepping away but you probably want to run `apt-get autoremove` first, to see if some not in-use kernels can be removed
[01:47] <nacc> ash_workz: did you pastebin the errors?
[01:47] <ash_workz> https://gist.github.com/anonymous/ae9819c55be138f6892e7c96687ef9f5
[01:47] <nacc> ash_workz: taht's from `apt-get autoremove` ?
[01:47] <omsig> Ok I am absoluetly new with Linux,what you mean with pastebin?
[01:48] <nacc> !paste | omsig
[01:48] <ecaz> Q: Can a non-root user initiate a tun (tunnel) connection without using sudo? IE, can I run openvpn without using 'sudo openvpn'
[01:48] <ash_workz> nacc: sudo apt-get autoremove yeah
[01:48] <ash_workz> nacc: should I try again?
[01:49] <nacc> ash_workz: hrm, ok -- so you might need to remove 'linux-image-3.19.0-59-generic' so that autoremove can run. I need to step away unfrotunately (dinner time). But it looks like you first need to get apt into a good state (it's in mid-process of those kernel pacakges)
[01:49] <nacc> ash_workz: then autoremove
[01:49] <somsip> ash_workz: *answer 2* so this is the same sort of thing but focussed on the contents in /boot not / as I said before http://askubuntu.com/questions/345588/what-is-the-safest-way-to-clean-up-boot-partition
[01:49] <nacc> ash_workz: hopefully someone else can answer fully
[01:49] <ash_workz> nacc: thanks
[01:50] <Bashing-om> ash_workz: nacc I have in mind to sic 'dpkg' on removing images . what is the booting kernel ' uname -r ' ?
[01:50] <ash_workz> Bashing-om: *shrug* ?
[01:51] <ash_workz> Bashing-om: did you see that in the autoremove output?
[01:51] <Bashing-om> ash_workz: Many paths to one end . But need to make sure we do not mess with the booting kernel . ' uname -r ' to know this kernel .
[01:52] <ecaz> Question: ERROR: Cannot ioctl TUNSETIFF tun: Operation not permitted (errno=1) - can a non-root or non-sudo user (administrative user) establish a tunnel?
[01:52] <ash_workz> Bashing-om: OH! You want me to _run_ that; I thought you were saying that you were perplexed by a line of output code
[01:52] <ash_workz> Bashing-om: 3.19.0-58-generic
[01:52] <Bashing-om> ash_workz: That last .. I saw "  stdout: No space left on device " apt has no head room to work in .
[01:53] <ash_workz> Bashing-om: yeah
[01:53] <ash_workz> Bashing-om: I am not linux-y enough to expand the disk space post initial install
[01:53] <ash_workz> :(
[01:55] <ash_workz> Bashing-om: should I just follow the advice at somsip's link?
[01:56] <Bashing-om> asj try: ' sudo apt-get remove linux-{image,headers}-3.19.0-{25,26,28,30,31,33,39,43}-generic; sudo apt-get -f install; sudo apt-get autoremove ' is what I have had the better success with .
[01:57] <Bashing-om> ash_workz: ^^ bad tab experience .
[01:58] <ash_workz> ?
[01:58] <ash_workz> bad tab?
[01:58] <Bashing-om> ash_workz: try: ' sudo apt-get remove linux-{image,headers}-3.19.0-{25,26,28,30,31,33,39,43}-generic; sudo apt-get -f install; sudo apt-get autoremove ' is what I have  had the better success with .
[01:58] <ash_workz> OH! the auto-complete
[01:59] <ash_workz> 132 MB will be freed :)
[01:59] <ash_workz> k, done
[01:59] <ash_workz> at some point I will actually need to expand the space
[02:00] <ash_workz> because it's just ridiculous that this happens
[02:00] <davidwilliams> hi
[02:00] <Bashing-om> ash_workz: And did the -59 kernel insrall ? a new ' dpkg -l | grep linux- ' .
[02:01] <Bashing-om> ash_workz: No on expanding ... just sometimes remove the old kernels . ' autoremove' should now do that for you .
[02:01] <ash_workz> https://gist.github.com/anonymous/f0b3147a3a6e7aa1159ab4076ac9da25
[02:02] <ash_workz> in the past, the gui manager would complain about space and I'd be able to get around it by just doing apt-get upgrade from the terminal
[02:04] <ash_workz> Bashing-om: anyway I guess I should do a dist-upgrade now?
[02:05] <Bashing-om> ash_workz: I had expected the headers to also be removed in that last sequence . OK run ' sudo apt-get remove linux-headers-3.19.0-{25,26,28,30,31,33,39,43} ' . Then we do some fancy cleanup .
[02:06] <ash_workz> apparently npm is broken now :\
[02:06] <ash_workz> done
[02:07] <ash_workz> now auto-remove?
[02:07] <Bashing-om> ash_workz: Wont hurt to see what it does .
[02:07] <ash_workz> nothing
[02:07] <ash_workz> Bashing-om: I mean, it didn't really do anything
[02:09] <ash_workz> looks like the headers are still there
[02:09] <ash_workz> erm
[02:09] <Bashing-om> ash_workz: I had not expected any result at thos time .. we already have all done that autoremove will do . // Now what results ' sudo apt update ; sudo apt full-upgrade ' ?
[02:09] <Hala3ammi> how heavy is the latest LTS on CPU and mem ?
[02:09] <Hala3ammi> does anybody know
[02:09] <ash_workz> nvm; the headers aren't there  ^ ^;
[02:10] <ash_workz> full-upgrade is not available on my system
[02:10] <Bashing-om> ash_workz: Let's run the updates ^^ then clean up .
[02:10] <ash_workz> updating...
[02:11] <ash_workz> Bashing-om: 0 upgraded, 0 newly installed, 0 to remove and 0 not upgraded
[02:11] <ash_workz> Bashing-om: E: Invalid operation full-upgrade
[02:11] <ash_workz> I don't think full-upgrade came with 14.04
[02:12] <ash_workz> Bashing-om: is there still additional clean up to do
[02:12] <ash_workz> ?
[02:13] <Bashing-om> ash_workz: Check typo ?? ' sudo apt full-upgrade ' . I just did it  in 14.04 .. and is valid .
[02:14] <Hala3ammi> k, lets ask this another way, minimum 16.04LTS requirements
[02:14] <Bashing-om> ash_workz: Heads up " Preparing to unpack .../google-chrome-stable_51.0.2704.63-1_amd64.deb  " .
[02:14] <teo_> Hi
[02:15] <reisio> hi
[02:15] <reisio> Hala3ammi: not for nothing, but if you typed that into a web browser...
[02:15] <Hala3ammi> common man
[02:15] <teo_> how can I install qtox on ubuntu 16.04? I found repo debian on web but  there inst qtox program afterd add repo
[02:15] <Hala3ammi> off course I can use web browser but seriously
[02:16] <Hala3ammi> so this is high level stuff here ha ... well I see alot of very basic apt get chat going on
[02:16] <notDancer> hello, I'm experiencing a problem with my ubuntu
[02:16] <notDancer> can anyone here help me out :)
[02:17] <Bashing-om> !ask | notDancer
[02:17] <reisio> teo_: can try an older version on launchpad
[02:17] <notDancer> I just upgraded to 16.04 from 14.04 and my wifi isn't working. I can't see the "enable wireless" option on my laptop
[02:17] <reisio> teo_: or this: http://askubuntu.com/questions/423716/how-do-i-install-tox
[02:18] <notDancer> http://ubuntuforums.org/showthread.php?t=2159334&page=2
[02:18] <zykotick9> Bashing-om: note, "apt full-upgrade" really should be required (9 times out of 10), infact it might lead to some problems :|  "apt upgrade" will do what "apt-get full-upgrade"/"apt-get distupgrade" use to do = update everything.
[02:18] <zykotick9> s/really should be/really shouldn't be/
[02:18] <notDancer> I followed the solution in the link I pasted above
[02:18] <teo_> ok
[02:19] <notDancer> Because my wifi adapter is ralink rt3290, and the problem is similar, so i tried following that solution
[02:19] <Bashing-om> zykotick9: K .. will keep that under advisement . I do agree .
[02:19] <notDancer> but I'm getting an error at the "make" step
[02:19] <notDancer> that is my problem. I'll just take screen shots of the error and share
[02:19] <Bashing-om> ash_workz: Where are we at ? Ready to clean up ?
[02:20] <ash_workz> Bashing-om: sure are!
[02:20] <notDancer> sorry, I didn't notice that the whole question has to be in one line, will re ask
[02:20] <Bashing-om> ash_workz: let's have a gander at disk space now ' df -h '  first .
[02:21] <ash_workz> Bashing-om: OH! the -get was my typo
[02:21] <ash_workz> I did apt-get full-upgrade
[02:21] <ash_workz> anyway
[02:22] <ash_workz> Bashing-om: https://gist.github.com/anonymous/08e4e9bcb549388c93760610bfb54b78
[02:22] <Bashing-om> ash_workz: K .. apt is the revamped improved apt-get . takes a bit to adjust to apt .
[02:23] <ash_workz> Bashing-om: I see
[02:23] <ash_workz> I wonder if I will be using it to uninstall my broken npm
[02:24] <Bashing-om> ash_workz: Wo-Hoo .. look'n good now ' dpkg --list |grep "^rc" | cut -d " " -f 3 | xargs sudo dpkg --purge ' and a new look ' dpkg -l | grep linux- ' . to see that all is now clean as a whistle .
[02:25] <Bashing-om> ash_workz: we look at npm here next ,,
[02:26] <notDancer> I just upgraded to 16.04 from 14.04 and my wifi isn't working. I can't see the "enable wireless" option on my laptop.  http://ubuntuforums.org/showthread.php?t=2159334&page=2 .  I followed the solution in the link I pasted above, Because my wifi adapter is ralink rt3290, and the problem is similar, so i tried following that solution. I'm getting an error at the "make" step. This is a screenshot of the error message http://imgur.com/
[02:28] <ash_workz> Bashing-om: https://gist.github.com/anonymous/7736a605219476d7c86ef21404b41808 -- nice
[02:28] <_44trent> i have a question, in a dual boot scenario with UEFI,does the windows boot manager would still function properly if ubuntu is removed?
[02:29] <_44trent> because i know on legacy grub fully takes over as the bootloader
[02:30] <_44trent> sometimes i wish there was a dedicated dualboot channel
[02:30] <prappl93> notDancer: your link to the screenshot is just a link to the main site for Imgur.
[02:31] <_44trent> there is a dualboot channel on freenode, but it has literally 4 people in it
[02:31] <drama> _44trent, #grub
[02:31] <_44trent> i'll ask them then
[02:32] <notDancer> prappl93, it is openeing the screenshot for me. Will try tiny pic. http://tinypic.com/r/dm9yt0/9
[02:33] <notDancer> prappl93: Sir, did this link work?
[02:33] <Bashing-om> ash_workz: Yepper .. nice and clean . OK, what up with npm ?
[02:34] <ash_workz> Bashing-om: I thought I was getting errors upgrading, but I forgot that npm is part of the nodejs package
[02:35] <prappl93> notDancer: that worked for me, yes.
[02:35] <ash_workz> oh... huh... I guess... it is it's own thing?
[02:35] <ash_workz> and I guess I incidentally uninstalled it
[02:35] <Bashing-om> ash_workz: Yeah npm is the package manager for Node.js . All good now ?
[02:36] <ash_workz> nope
[02:36] <ash_workz> :\
[02:36] <ash_workz> I get this when I try to do `sudo apt-get install npm` https://gist.github.com/anonymous/897e961dcf672aea938ae1ecb10a1e07
[02:37] <ash_workz> I am very confused... nodejs was uninstalled I guess ?_?
[02:39] <ash_workz> well I just did `sudo apt-get install nodejs` and it appeared to install (reinstall?) it said 1 to remove, 1 to install so I guess it reinstalled
[02:39] <Bashing-om> ash_workz: Looks like it .. want it ? maybe try ' sudo apt install --reinstall nodejs ' .
[02:39] <ash_workz> anyway, now `sudo apt-get install npm` is giving me the same message
[02:39] <prappl93> notDancer: Please try running the solution in this: http://askubuntu.com/questions/545238/how-to-install-wifi-driver-ralink-rt3290
[02:40] <ash_workz> Bashing-om: done. And then I tried `sudo apt install --reinstall npm` and still yielding same errors
[02:40] <prappl93> It looks like it might be the same solution that you were trying, now that I see that under further inspection.
[02:42] <Bashing-om> ash_workz: show me the ' apt install --reinstall Node.js ' full output. See what the package manager is screaming about .
[02:42] <ash_workz> Bashing-om: `Node.js` ? not `nodejs` ?
[02:43] <Bashing-om> ash_workz: lowercase nodejs .
[02:45] <ash_workz> Bashing-om: https://gist.github.com/anonymous/4dd090594a9d308b593570d507f86bd2
[02:45] <notDancer> prappl93: I have tried doing it. http://tinypic.com/r/dq5buv/9 This is the error message I'm getting after the second step. I have also tried the second solution in the link you provided, it ran without errors but didn't solve the issue.
[02:46] <Bashing-om> ash_workz: look'n .
[02:46] <ash_workz> guess I should run autoremove
[02:47] <Bashing-om> ash_workz: So far so good . what now ' dpkg -l npm ' ?
[02:48] <ash_workz> Bashing-om: https://gist.github.com/anonymous/b75c84c30c39ac3b4b1872b8db2fd568
[02:49] <Bashing-om> ash_workz: Try now to install ' sudo apt install npm ' .
[02:50] <ash_workz> Bashing-om: https://gist.github.com/anonymous/b83987eaa8caebec84261787611098b2
[02:52] <Bashing-om> ash_workz: Not making a lot of sense huh . what returns ' apt-cache policy nodejs ' .
[02:55] <ash_workz> Bashing-om: https://gist.github.com/anonymous/2d75b6ff87875ce9cfdb6862deb4884c
[02:57] <Bashing-om> ash_workz: K .. I see what is now .. which version do tou inrend to use ? https://deb.nodesource.com/node_4.x/ or our repo ? can not have both .
[02:58] <Bashing-om> you intend**
[02:58] <ash_workz> ...?
[02:59] <ash_workz> I guess the most recent?
[02:59] <Bashing-om> ash_workz: You have installed nodejs from a PPA .. not supported here .
[03:00] <ash_workz> I'm surprised node is supported here at all o.o
[03:00] <ash_workz> but
[03:00] <ash_workz> I am happy to remove the ppa
[03:00] <Bashing-om> !ppa-purge | ash_workz
[03:01] <ash_workz> installing...
[03:02] <ash_workz> how do I list my ppas?
[03:02] <ash_workz> Bashing-om: ^
[03:02] <Bashing-om> ash_workz: ' tail -v -n +1 /etc/apt/sources.list.d/* ' .
[03:05] <Bashing-om> ash_workz: When ppa-purge completes . make sure you also remove the source .
[03:05] <ash_workz> Bashing-om: I guess it's got to be this, right? deb https://deb.nodesource.com/node_4.x trusty main
[03:05] <Bashing-om> ash_workz: Yepper .. that looks to ne it ^ .
[03:05] <Bashing-om> be*
[03:05] <ash_workz> oh, um... I don't know the repo/sub name?
[03:07] <ash_workz> Bashing-om:  https://deb.nodesource.com/node_4.x is the repo?
[03:08] <_44trent> is it a bad idea to install grub to my EFI partition?
[03:08] <_44trent> instead of sda i want it on sda1
[03:08] <_44trent> which is well, my EFI partition
[03:09] <EriC^^> follow your heart
[03:09] <_44trent> uhm, and what's that supossed to mean
[03:09] <_44trent> i was only asking because all the documentation on grub says NOT to install it to sda
[03:09] <_44trent> sda1 i mean
[03:10] <EriC^^> yeah that's for legacy
[03:10] <_44trent> since the EFI partition replaces mbr...
[03:10] <_44trent> yeah, the proper way is sda1 on EFI
[03:10] <EriC^^> yeah are you talking about the installer?
[03:10] <_44trent> yep
[03:11] <EriC^^> oh, leave it /dev/sda it'll know what to do
[03:11] <_44trent> okay
[03:12] <Bashing-om> ash_workz: IF you ran ppa purge, then yes remove " https://deb.nodesource.com/node_4.x " .
[03:13] <ash_workz> Bashing-om: oh, I guess the repo name is nodesource
[03:16] <ash_workz> Bashing-om: what I mean is I don't know the args for sudo ppa-purge ppa:?/?
[03:17] <ash_workz> do I just drop in the deb link?
[03:18] <Bashing-om> ash_workz: That one will take me a bit to find out .
[03:18] <ash_workz> well
[03:19] <ash_workz> I went to the setup file from that repo
[03:19] <EriC^^> you need repo/name format
[03:19] <ash_workz> rather
[03:19] <ash_workz> I went to that link
[03:19] <ash_workz> and read the readme
[03:19] <ash_workz> and checked the setup file
[03:20] <ash_workz> which would have appeared to have installed that nodesource.list file
[03:20] <ash_workz> but with the wrong version number (I guess)
[03:20] <ash_workz> mine says _4; it says _0.10
[03:20] <ash_workz> maybe a typo whenever I installed it
[03:21] <ash_workz> but w/e; I when I visit the deb url it redirects to git which lists the repo as nodesource/distributions
[03:21] <ash_workz> so I guess that then maybe :\
[03:21] <ash_workz> ?
[03:21] <ash_workz> EriC^^: ^ ?
[03:21] <_44trent> the documentation even says that grub should be installed to the EFI partition...man i'm dumb, it was right there in the documentation
[03:22] <ash_workz> _44trent: I'd like to say that it happens to the best of us, but I can't say from experience XD
[03:22] <_44trent> at least this isn't as stupid as the time i actually deleted the efi partition in gparted, somehow mistaking it as my thumb drive
[03:22] <_44trent> even though i wasn't even in sdb
[03:22] <_44trent> yeah, that happend
[03:23] <_44trent> with a little help from here and some chrooting i fixed that though
[03:23] <EriC^^> ash_workz: how'd you install the ppa?
[03:23] <_44trent> the fact i even managed to delete the EFI partition that was clearly labelled "EFI" in gparted falls in the top 10 list of stupidest things i've ever done
[03:24] <_44trent> the only other thing i've done that was dumber than that was snapping my old graphics card in the PCI port
[03:25] <ash_workz> EriC^^: I don't remember
[03:25] <_44trent> thank god i was replacing the graphics card, but it was a pain in the but to get the PCI connector out of the slot
[03:26] <EriC^^> ash_workz: how long ago did you install it?
[03:26] <EriC^^> ctrl+r sudo add-apt
[03:26] <ash_workz> EriC^^: once upon a time?
[03:27] <ash_workz> EriC^^: like 2 months ago I guess :\
[03:27] <EriC^^> oh
[03:29] <Bashing-om> ash_workz: Looks promising : http://stackoverflow.com/questions/5650169/uninstall-node-js-using-linux-command-line . But depending on how you installed nodejs .
[03:30] <ash_workz> should I just try ppa-purge on nodesource/distributions ?
[03:30] <ash_workz> Bashing-om: ^ ?
[03:33] <Bashing-om> ash_workz: From what I see .. nodejs will not suppprt ppa-purge . Looks like a manual removal . " sudo npm rm npm -g " MIGHT " be the ticket .
[03:33] <EriC^^> ash_workz: what's the link of the ppa?
[03:33] <EriC^^> we'll try to make something like ppa-purge that works for links
[03:35] <Bashing-om> EriC^^: Working from https://deb.nodesource.com/node_4.x for ash_workz .
[03:35] <EriC^^> ash_workz: ok try grep -B1 "ok installed" status | sed -n 's/^Package: //p' | xargs apt-cache policy | grep -B4 "500.*node"
[03:36] <ash_workz> Bashing-om: result: unbuild npm@2.15.5
[03:37] <ash_workz> EriC^^: result: https://gist.github.com/anonymous/cf1e24db8333b3a28b447e0e1c49eafe
[03:37] <Lugal> hi
[03:38] <EriC^^> ash_workz: oops
[03:38] <EriC^^> ash_workz: ok try grep -B1 "ok installed" /var/lib/dpkg/ status | sed -n 's/^Package: //p' | xargs apt-cache policy | grep -B4 "500.*node"
[03:38] <Lugal> how can I compress all folders from one directory into different tar.xz archives with a terminal command?  so for example to make 10 archives from 10 folders, and not all in one.
[03:38] <EriC^^> ash_workz: ok try grep -B1 "ok installed" /var/lib/dpkg/status | sed -n 's/^Package: //p' | xargs apt-cache policy | grep -B4 "500.*node"
[03:39] <EriC^^> oh sorry again
[03:39] <EriC^^> ash_workz: ok try grep -B1 "ok installed" /var/lib/dpkg/status | sed -n 's/^Package: //p' | xargs apt-cache policy | grep -B6 "500.*node"
[03:39] <ash_workz> EriC^^: result: https://gist.github.com/anonymous/2fc6351fc191a75a8012eaddf8dcd081
[03:40] <EriC^^> ok looks like there's just one package installed by that ppa
[03:40] <EriC^^> try with the last command to get the name
[03:40] <ash_workz> EriC^^: result: https://gist.github.com/anonymous/22b8b612ad3ed1b93e9867856bac5157
[03:42] <EriC^^> ok, let's see which packages depend on nodejs
[03:43] <EriC^^> grep "^Depends.*nodejs" /var/lib/dpkg/status
[03:45] <ash_workz> EriC^^: no output
[03:45] <toani> k
[03:45] <EriC^^> ok good
[03:45] <toani> hi there
[03:45] <toani> anyone online
[03:46] <EriC^^> ash_workz: type sudo apt-get purge nodejs
[03:46] <ash_workz> oh, btw; that repo name I got from going to ../ from the deb link: https://deb.nodesource.com/node_4.x/
[03:46] <ash_workz> EriC^^: trying...
[03:46] <ash_workz> EriC^^: dpkg: warning: while removing nodejs, directory '/usr/lib/node_modules' not empty so not removed
[03:47] <EriC^^> ash_workz: np i guess, type cd /etc/apt/sources.list.d/ and also comment out the repo
[03:47] <EriC^^> then sudo apt-get update
[03:48] <ash_workz> EriC^^: comment out the repo?
[03:49] <EriC^^> yeah put a "#" at the start of the line that says deb and deb-src (if there)
[03:49] <ash_workz> EriC^^: file?
[03:50] <EriC^^> should be in /etc/apt/sources.list
[03:50] <EriC^^> should be in /etc/apt/sources.list.d
[03:50] <ash_workz> EriC^^: should I just delete the file?
[03:50] <ash_workz> EriC^^: those are the only 2 lines on nodesource.list
[03:51] <ash_workz> EriC^^: I kind of thought there was some tool that would remove that file (along with anything else that needs to be removed with it)
[03:52] <EriC^^> ash_workz: yeah you can
[03:53] <EriC^^> ash_workz: there's ppa-purge but it doesn't work with links
[03:54] <ash_workz> EriC^^: should I remove the save file too?
[03:54] <EriC^^> yeah
[03:55] <ash_workz> EriC^^: anything else I need to do to complete the removal of that repo?
[03:56] <Lugal> how can I compress all folders from one directory into different tar.xz archives with a terminal command?
[03:56] <Gallomimia> Lugal i think you'd have use a for loop
[03:56] <EriC^^> ash_workz: no, just run apt-get update after
[03:57] <ash_workz> EriC^^: should I be using just apt for that now?
[03:57] <Gallomimia> something like for each $folder in $(ls directory) tar -cfz $folder $folder.tar.xz
[03:57] <lotuspsychje> !tar | Lugal
[03:57] <Guest53691> i'm on a live system. how can I access my old ~/ without needing to sudo $filebrowser?
[03:57] <EriC^^> ash_workz: same thing i guess
[03:58] <EriC^^> Guest53691: sudo $filebrowser is fine in a live system
[03:58] <ash_workz> k, I guess I'll try to reinstall nodejs now... I suppose
[03:58] <somsip> ash_workz: which ppa will you use this time?
[03:58] <ash_workz> somsip: hopefully the right one?
[03:58] <Gallomimia> Guest53691: you'd have to change the owner or group of the directory. then you'd have to change it back once you get back later
[03:59] <Gallomimia> i don't really recommend that
[03:59] <somsip> ash_workz: vague answer... FWIW, this has been stable for me for a while https://launchpad.net/~chris-lea/+archive/ubuntu/node.js/
[04:00] <ash_workz> I just did sudo apt install --reinstall nodejs
[04:00] <somsip> !info nodejs
[04:00] <Lugal> Gallomimia, how exactly? I dont really know how to work with variables in terminal
[04:01] <Lugal> supposed I am already in the directory where the others are
[04:01] <ash_workz> EriC^^: still getting depends errors trying to install npm
[04:01] <somsip> ash_workz: nodejs tends to develop quite quickly, so you wont get upgrades. If you want them, PPA is needed. But PPAs should be used with care as you've found out, so what ever is best for you
[04:01] <Gallomimia> Lugal: well i gave you a rudamentary go of it. i'm sure the tar command would be badly formed
[04:02] <Gallomimia> the simple way of doing a for loop is for each $pickavariablename in somelist
[04:02] <Gallomimia> uh... i'm forgetting something
[04:02] <Gallomimia> ah yes. at the end of the list put a ;
[04:02] <Gallomimia> then put the word do
[04:02] <Gallomimia> a command with the variable in it
[04:02] <Gallomimia> then another ; and the word done
[04:03] <Gallomimia> for the list you'd have it execute ls .
[04:03] <Gallomimia> with substitution that looks like $(ls .)
[04:04] <user_br> hi
[04:04] <Gallomimia> hello user_br
[04:04] <ash_workz> hmm
[04:04] <ash_workz> I dunno what's going on
[04:04] <Gallomimia> Lugal: if you're more interested in learning about the command line, i recommend the book called "The Linux Command Line" it's a pdf book, free online just google it
[04:05] <Gallomimia> there's also the #bash channel
[04:05] <user_br> how I clear my system?
[04:05] <Gallomimia> what?
[04:05] <ash_workz> apt install npm throws errors but which npm shows the command
[04:05] <Gallomimia> "clear" your system?
[04:05] <Gallomimia> sounds like a dangerous procedure. why do you want to do that user_br ?
[04:05] <srir4m> hey
[04:05] <Gallomimia> hay is or horses
[04:05] <Gallomimia> for*
[04:05] <Gallomimia> doh ><
[04:06] <srir4m> how do i remove preinstalled stuff...
[04:06] <srir4m> without removing the ubuntu-mate-core package
[04:06] <user_br> sorry...how do I maintenance in my system?
[04:06] <user_br> :D
[04:06] <dreamaddict> how can I remap/unmap Alt+TAB?  I don't want the dashboard whatever...actually, all I'd really like is for Emacs to be able to hear Alt+TAB
[04:07] <iku-iku> hello, I'm looking for a driver for the following printer: Kyocera LS-6970DN KX. Thank you for your support =)
[04:08] <user_br> everyone?
[04:08] <Gallomimia> user_br: it's tough to understand what you're asking. perhaps if english is not your first language, you'd be better off finding the channel that speaks yours?
[04:09] <Gallomimia> dreamaddict: in the keyboard control panel i do believe
[04:09] <Gallomimia> there's a tab marked shortcuts
[04:09] <dreamaddict> is there a way to prioritize a keystroke for an application such as Emacs, so that if Emacs has "focus" or whatever it is, it can hear and react to Alt-TAB before Unity
[04:10] <Gallomimia> i'm not sure really. if there is i'm sure it's complicated
[04:10] <user_br> how do I delete invalid repositories?
[04:10] <reisio> dreamaddict: you can move your shortcut to something separate from both, and have it query the window in focus before acting
[04:11] <reisio> xbindkeys + wmctrl would be one way
[04:11] <dreamaddict> I am not sure what "something separate from both" would look like
[04:11] <dreamaddict> ok some thingy like that
[04:11] <dreamaddict> in this case it sounds like my time would be better spent binding the key in Emacs, so that I just don't have to type Alt-TAB
[04:11] <reisio> actually you can probably map alt+tab in Unity (compiz) to a script as well
[04:12] <reisio> although I imagine the least inefficient way would be to listen for window changes, and disable alt+tab where you don't wan it when emacs is focused, and re-enable when unfocused
[04:12] <dreamaddict> that's what I would think
[04:13] <dreamaddict> like, have a list with "exceptions" like Emacs in this case, and have that list be checked before the UI gets a hold of the key
[04:13] <Ben64> or just.... pick a different shortcut
[04:13] <dreamaddict> yeah I'm just going to bend Emacs
[04:14] <dreamaddict> still it's nice to know these kind of things
[04:21] <reisio> actually since most window changes will be via alt+tab anyway, that much is easily controlled
[04:22] <reisio> http://unix.stackexchange.com/questions/214921/getting-notified-about-window-title-changes :)
[04:22] <reisio> I s'pose modifying the wm would be simplest, though
[04:27] <Guest48427> hi guys!
[04:42] <beecee> my first irc!
[04:43] <baizon> beecee: good job
[04:43] <beecee> baizon: thx!
[04:45] <beecee> can anybody answer questions on a live cd fresh install?
[04:46] <beecee> I got a hand me down Sony Vaio which previously had dual boot XP and Ubuntu.
[04:46] <baizon> beecee: and whats the question?
[04:47] <beecee> baizon: I'm trying a fresh install, Live -CD. I went into Bios to change boot order but not working.
[04:47] <baizon> beecee: did you made a proper liveCD?
[04:48] <beecee> baizon: yes, before I got the hand me down vaio, I installed w/same live-CD. For some reason, it's not working.
[04:49] <baizon> beecee: how did you made that livecd?
[04:49] <beecee> baizon: I've read a few threads that ppl have an issue where they try a fresh install & it messes w/something.
[04:50] <beecee> baizon: i made it from the dual boot on the XP.
[04:51] <utopiah> hey #ubuntu any feedback on sound and the HP Stream11? Worked well on 15.* (cf own post https://www.reddit.com/r/Ubuntu/comments/3m6ncb/hp_stream_11_with_ubuntu_1510/ ) but lost it on 16.04
[04:51] <beecee> baizon: the live cd was made on a dvd-r cd.
[04:52] <lotuspsychje> utopiah: did you upgrade to 16.04 from wily?
[04:53] <beecee> baizon: also, I used the same live-cd to to just boot ubuntu and wipe XP.
[04:53] <beecee> I've tried changing the bios back to default and re-try boot order and still nothing.
[04:54] <utopiah> lotuspsychje: from 15.10
[04:55] <beecee> baizon: also, i've tried changing bios back to default and retry boot order and still nothing.
[04:55] <lotuspsychje> utopiah: could you try a 16.04 liveusb, to see if your issue persist?
[04:56] <destinydriven> how can I get support for my kingston usb 3.0 flash drive formatted as exfat?
[04:57] <srir4m> guys
[04:57] <srir4m> im using gdm3
[04:57] <srir4m> but whenever i lock the desktop...lightdm lock screen pops out
[04:57] <srir4m> what should i do
[04:57] <destinydriven> it either throws io errors or if I copy something . . .  I can't retrieve it.
[04:58] <destinydriven> the same drive works flawlessly on windows
[04:58] <reisio> destinydriven: what capacity?
[04:59] <destinydriven> 64GB
[05:00] <reisio> think I'd use NTFS for such a drive, if I wanted to share it with random Windows boxes
[05:00] <destinydriven> reisio, was about to say that I tried NTFS before . . same issue
[05:02] <reisio> laptop?
[05:02] <reisio> what version of ubuntu?
[05:02] <destinydriven> reisio, correct. HP Pavilion dv7t
[05:02] <destinydriven> reisio, 16.04
[05:03] <destinydriven> issue was around with 15.10 as well
[05:04] <reisio> destinydriven: you might try disabling usb 3 support, just to see if doing so might suggest a problem with the usb 3 driver (software)
[05:04] <destinydriven> reisio, ok will do
[05:05] <beecee> Noob just wondering if there are any channels just on bios/boot order sequence/prioroties help?
[05:05] <utopiah> lotuspsychje: that's an idea... would take some time but ok
[05:06] <reisio> other things you can do: poke around in bios for usb things, update bios, update kernel, downgrade kernel, build xhci as module instead of built-in, build xhci as built-in instead of as module
[05:06] <lotuspsychje> utopiah: probably an upgrade issue, so not very hard to make a 16.04 liveusb
[05:06] <reisio> beecee: I doubt it, here or #linux should suffice
[05:06] <reisio> beecee: generally: /msg alis list *bios*
[05:06] <reisio> but I doubt you'll get anything
[05:06] <reisio> (for 'bios')
[05:07] <beecee> reisio: thx for input.
[05:07] <destinydriven> reisio, bios is up to date for sure
[05:07] <reisio> destinydriven: actually, what you should start with is a live OS from another distro
[05:08] <reisio> destinydriven: that's the ultimate litmus test
[05:08] <beecee> reisio: trying to figure out why boot order priorities/sequence not working when it worked before w/same live-cd. trying a fresh install on a hand me down.
[05:08] <destinydriven> reisio, true.  I should have a debian disk somewhere . . or is that too close to ubuntu?
[05:08] <reisio> destinydriven: https://is.gd/uxukox
[05:09] <reisio> ^ nice and different
[05:09] <reisio> if it works fine on another distro, then it's almost certainly a (specific) kernel(/driver) issue
[05:09] <destinydriven> kool thanks
[05:09] <reisio> destinydriven: you could even try ubuntu 14, if you say it only started with 15
[05:10] <utopiah> lotuspsychje: what I failed to mention is that I did have sound after the upgrade to 16.04!
[05:10] <utopiah> I remember sounding silly to a conference on Monday because I forgot to turn it off so it did work
[05:10] <lotuspsychje> utopiah: so you lost after an upgrade or so?
[05:10] <utopiah> yes
[05:10] <utopiah> I mean after the upgrade it worked
[05:10] <lotuspsychje> utopiah: aha, try a previous kernel or a pulseaudio restart
[05:11] <oldtopman> I just installed the nvidia drivers for my graphics card, but I'm getting a black screen at the login screen.
[05:11] <oldtopman> The splash ubuntu logos on reboot/shutdown work, as well as the tty consoles. Ideas?
[05:11] <destinydriven> reisio, yeah  it only happens on the USB 3.0 ports
[05:11] <destinydriven> sucks that I can't get support for this (usb 3.0)
[05:13] <reisio> destinydriven: if you feel you're remembering that it worked with 14 right, then confirm that with a live OS (make sure it's using xhci)
[05:13] <utopiah> weird... it works again, very confused
[05:13] <utopiah> :/
[05:13] <reisio> destinydriven: after that you can try a different OS with a modern (similar to 15/16) kernel, like the one I linked you
[05:14] <utopiah> since Im heading to a hackathon in few hours and do not want to play with the config I won't touch anything and will investigate further after, thanks lotuspsychje for the help :)
[05:14] <destinydriven> yeah, I will definitely try with another OS live CD
[05:14] <beecee> Does anyone have an idea of what to check when boot order/sequence doesn't work on a live-cd when it worked before? Like process of elimination?
[05:14] <lotuspsychje> utopiah: didnt do nothing, but glad you sorted
[05:14] <reisio> beecee: the live OS won't boot?
[05:14] <utopiah> lotuspsychje: you listened and offered solutions which is already helpful
[05:16] <beecee> reisio: No. It worked before. I used same live-cd to wipe out the dual boot xp-ubuntu. The same pc was given to me and I want a fresh install and doesn't work.
[05:16] <reisio> beecee: actualy CD?
[05:16] <reisio> actual*
[05:17] <beecee> reisio: It's a maxell DVD-R cd.
[05:17] <pooka> alllo
[05:17] <pooka> hi
[05:18] <pooka> this is my first linux computer
[05:18] <reisio> beecee: CDs degrade
[05:19] <reisio> beecee: would by my first guess; does it boot on another computer?
[05:19] <Hetr0Erectus> my next computer is probably going to be a high end chromebook, then format it and install linux
[05:19] <Hetr0Erectus> want QHD or 4k screen though
[05:19] <reisio> low ends are pretty nice
[05:19] <reisio> 4k, heh
[05:19] <pooka> so many games I played before will not play on this OS
[05:19] <codfection> chrome book has chrome OS linux <3
[05:19] <Hetr0Erectus> have a surface pro so im spoiled screenwise
[05:19] <reisio> pooka: like what?
[05:19] <oldtopman> Anyone familiar with black-screen logins?
[05:19] <pooka> BBC2
[05:20] <reisio> codfection: most you can swap the OS, but not all
[05:20] <codfection> which is officially supported by google.. LINUX maintained by google wow
[05:20] <beecee> reisio: Odd. the cd was burned less than 3 mos ago and trying to use it now.
[05:20] <reisio> Hetr0Erectus: got the fanless one?
[05:20] <Hetr0Erectus> codfection, linux is way more usable though
[05:20] <Hetr0Erectus> no... old surface pro 3
[05:20] <codfection> Chrome OS is linux kernal based Hetr0Erectus
[05:20] <reisio> I'm lusting after a fanless surface
[05:20] <Hetr0Erectus> chrome os is getting android apps to the OS this summer btw.. wonder if that means android apps on ubuntu
[05:20] <beecee> reisio: Don't know if it can boot from another pc becuz don't have another pc to try.
[05:20] <pooka> Airborne
[05:20] <Bashing-om> oldtopman: What hardware ' lspci -k | grep -EA2 'VGA|3D' ?  In a pastebin, please .
[05:20] <codfection> Chrome OS = Linux maintained by Google. == gg !
[05:20] <reisio> beecee: attempting to boot it from a different computer would quickly give you a large suggestion as to whether it is the physical medium
[05:21] <reisio> beecee: mmm, well
[05:21] <reisio> beecee: you should probably decide how curious you are about the why VS what it is you're trying to accomplish
[05:21] <Hetr0Erectus> codfection, yea but its still "closed" and under google ... i prefer a regular linux distro
[05:21] <reisio> beecee: you said you want to install from it?
[05:21] <pooka> Is there a way to play BBC2 with Wine?
[05:21] <reisio> pooka: bbc2?
[05:21] <pooka> battlefield bad company 2
[05:22] <codfection> OS X has more features than ubuntu and applications support, even thou its closed source. so yea.
[05:22] <Hetr0Erectus> having a nice screen and good speakers is alfa omega and the stuff i look for above all in a laptop / tablet
[05:22] <beecee> reisio: I want a fresh install to wipe out what previous owner had on pc.
[05:22] <reisio> pooka: yes: https://appdb.winehq.org/objectManager.php?sClass=application&iId=11035
[05:22] <reisio> beecee: and what OS did the previous owner have?
[05:22] <pooka> wow TY VM!
[05:22] <reisio> codfection: quite impossible
[05:22]  * reisio eats omega sprouts
[05:23] <codfection> reisio, would you see professionals at work using Linux as desktop / laptop power?
[05:23] <codfection> I highly doubt that
[05:23] <codfection> its most probably OS X
[05:23] <Hetr0Erectus> ubuntu does what i need
[05:23] <oldtopman> Bashing-om: http://www.hastebin.com/gulezojaqi.sm
[05:23] <reisio> I wouldn't see a professional anywhere using Mac OS, so there's that...
[05:24] <codfection> Hetr0Erectus, for work too?
[05:24] <Hetr0Erectus> yeah
[05:24] <reisio> you might be confusing paying twice as much with professionalism
[05:24] <reisio> I used GNU/Linux at my last job
[05:24] <codfection> reisio, mate. I am talking about conferences and highly skilled players.
[05:24] <reisio> in an office, surrounded by Windows computers
[05:24] <beecee> reisio: the vaio 1st had XP, then I installed (dual boot w/ ubuntu) then wiped out xp hand only ubuntu.
[05:24] <reisio> I'd say my efficiency was roughly 87,000% higher than my coworkers :p
[05:24] <reisio> codfection: you're cute :p
[05:24] <jn_jn> hi how can I change a specific application color in ubuntu with unity? like hexchat, I've already a dark theme but for hexchat the color theme is the same as default. (i do not mean the colorscheme of the chat but the window theme) ty all
[05:25] <Hetr0Erectus> however, the other computers at the business is win because a label printing program wont run under linux :/
[05:25] <reisio> beecee: well if you don't have another cd, dvd, or a usb stick, you can always boot an install image from the existing installation's GRUB
[05:25] <codfection> Google and Facebook IT geeks using MACbooks and MACS :)
[05:25] <reisio> Hetr0Erectus: labelflash?
[05:25] <codfection> Professionals*
[05:25] <codfection> :)
[05:25] <Hetr0Erectus> nah norwegian one
[05:25] <reisio> lightscribe?
[05:25] <reisio> oh, not for CDs, prob
[05:25] <reisio> libreoffice has label templates, IIRC
[05:25] <Hetr0Erectus> no ... not that kind of labels.. labels for shipping packages
[05:25] <Hetr0Erectus> using our mail system
[05:26] <reisio> jn_jn: that's probably GTK+ version 2 vs version 3
[05:26] <beecee> reisio: ooh! That's new to me? How?
[05:26] <reisio> jn_jn: you'll want to coordinate themes for each, or make a combined theme, etc.
[05:26] <Hetr0Erectus> with ||5225||74224|| code etc
[05:26] <reisio> beecee: is it a recent Ubuntu, or super ancient?
[05:26] <Hetr0Erectus> so you have to have it.. asked if a linux version is coming.. nope
[05:26] <codfection> Hetr0Erectus, exactly like I said.
[05:26] <reisio> Hetr0Erectus: ah
[05:26] <reisio> can't imagine having to use win32 nonsense for such a technical task
[05:26] <reisio> :p
[05:26] <jn_jn> reisio, actually in gtk2 folder there is nothing inside
[05:27] <reisio> beecee: https://help.ubuntu.com/community/Grub2/ISOBoot
[05:27] <beecee> reisio: recent. ubuntu lts, pangolin.
[05:27] <codfection> I like ubuntu my self and using it on different laptop but to be honest its not very mature for work use, yet.
[05:27] <Hetr0Erectus> its connected to the mail system via encrypted link etc
[05:27] <reisio> codfection: "work"?
[05:27] <Hetr0Erectus> cant use any sort of linux program for it
[05:27] <Bashing-om> oldtopman: OK.. hybrid graphics, and for that card Nvidia recommends the 361 version driver . what have you installed ? show ' dpkg -l | grep -i nvidia ' .
[05:27] <reisio> jn_jn: like I said
[05:27] <codfection> reisio, IT work.. Reliability and apps support as compared to OS X
[05:27] <reisio> Hetr0Erectus: sure you can, but better to replace it all :p
[05:27] <beecee> reisio: thx for link! on my way!
[05:27] <reisio> codfection: I s'pose you have some scientific measurement of reliability to back up this absurd claim? :)
[05:28] <codfection> it doesn't even have latest Microsoft office.
[05:28] <jn_jn> reisio, TY :D
[05:28] <reisio> thought not, thanks for playing
[05:28] <codfection> LibreOffice is good but not like MS Office
[05:28] <xangua> Lol
[05:28] <reisio> yeah it has a reliable UI
[05:28] <oldtopman> Bashing-om: http://www.hastebin.com/jesalegese.hs
[05:28] <reisio> unlike ms office :p
[05:29] <Hetr0Erectus> man i wish linux would get rid of all bugs, a descent photoshop clone thats better than gimp, more games and more users... then id be happy.. prettiest desktop must be gnome .. unity second.. kde third.. but most usable desktop is mate
[05:29] <oldtopman> This is on 14.04LTS, by the way. Somewhere along the lines of updating everything and whatnot, this happened.
[05:29] <Hetr0Erectus> which i run
[05:29] <codfection> every entrepreneur I have seen is using OS X
[05:29] <codfection> reisio,
[05:29] <reisio> codfection: you've confused 'entrepreneur' with 'wearer of a cardigan'
[05:29] <codfection> maybe they prefer getting their worked done as quickly as possible.
[05:29] <reisio> not that 'entrepreneur' means much even for those who know what it means
[05:29] <somsip> !contribute | Hetr0Erectus ('cos otherwise it just seems like your whingeing)
[05:29] <Bashing-om> oldtopman: 352 version has some problems sometimes .. what release are you running ?
[05:30] <reisio> codfection: maybe someone drew apples on your glasses
[05:30] <oldtopman> Bashing-om: 14.04lts
[05:30] <Hetr0Erectus> somsip, i contribute but i cant code
[05:30] <codfection> reisio, I hate their price but I admire their quality of softwares.
[05:31] <Bashing-om> oldtopman: K .. that 361 version driver is not available in the repo .. want to use our trusted PPA and install 361 ?
[05:31] <reisio> codfection: you couldn't even enumerate them
[05:31] <oldtopman> Bashing-om: Go for it.
[05:31] <Hetr0Erectus> somsip: to take on photoshop you need a major corp or gov behind it anyway
[05:32] <Hetr0Erectus> if chinese gov said hey lets beat those murricans and pour 50 mill usd over gimp and krita, things would get done-
[05:32] <reisio> "things" of indeterminate quality
[05:32] <reisio> you think GIMP is missing something?
[05:32] <Hetr0Erectus> im talking high end quality.. cause thats what it would take to beat photoshop
[05:33] <codfection> reisio, compare it to adobe products? hehe
[05:33] <reisio> "quality" is not tangible, be specific
[05:33] <Hetr0Erectus> dont give me that.. try photoshop and compare to gimp
[05:33] <reisio> I'm in frontend web development, professionally, for more than a decade
[05:33] <reisio> I prefer GIMP
[05:33] <reisio> got any specifics then?
[05:33] <xangua> There's a Gimp fork that replaces gimp shortcuts with Photoshop
[05:33] <xangua> Hetr0Erectus:
[05:33] <reisio> there is indeed
[05:33] <codfection> reisio, I doubt that ur main and only OS is linux for frontend web development
[05:34] <Hetr0Erectus> well i used to do graphics in school with photoshop, im not able to create the same graphics in gimp ... stuff like plastic wrap.. remember that one?
[05:34] <reisio> codfection: that's nice
[05:34] <oldtopman> Bashing-om: Which ppa are you referring to? Also, will nvidia-prime help at all?
[05:34] <Bashing-om> oldtopman: do : ' sudo apt purge nvidia* ; sudo rm /etc/X11/xorg.conf ; sudo add-apt-repository ppa:graphics-drivers/ppa ; sudo apt update ; sudo apt upgrade ; sudo apt-get install nvidia-361 nvidia-prime ; sudo reboot ' . This is assuming that you do  not have another driver PPA on the system .
[05:34] <reisio> Hetr0Erectus: so the things that photoshop does on its own that have nothing to do with your skill as a manipulator of graphics
[05:34] <codfection> reisio, "with power comes price"
[05:34] <codfection> reisio, "nothing good is for free"
[05:34] <jn_jn> reisio, all done :D was simple
[05:34] <Bashing-om> oldtopman: Hybrid graphics, nvidia-prime is required to control the different graphics sets .
[05:35] <Hetr0Erectus> im just saying, photoshop is branch standard for a reason
[05:35] <reisio> jn_jn: gj
[05:35] <reisio> jn_jn: what'd you pick?
[05:35] <reisio> Hetr0Erectus: yeah it came earlier, and people are addicted to paying for things
[05:35] <reisio> for example, you and codfection :p
[05:35] <codfection> reisio, paying for quality you mean?
[05:36] <reisio> think I said 'things'
[05:36] <jn_jn> reisio, adwaitadark theme
[05:36] <reisio> jn_jn: that for 2 & 3?
[05:36] <jn_jn> 2
[05:36] <reisio> what for 3, then?
[05:36] <Hetr0Erectus> reisio: no matter what you say ... gimp is not on pair with photoshop ... illustrator is comparable to inkscape, sure... hexchat beats mirc... you can say that.. but gimp is NOT on pair with photoshop.. no way
[05:36] <reisio> default?
[05:36] <jn_jn> i was already made a theme for 3
[05:36] <oldtopman> Bashing-om: "Cannot add PPA: 'ppa:graphics-drivers/ppa'.
[05:36] <jn_jn> reisio, sry my bad english
[05:36] <reisio> Hetr0Erectus: when you can think of an example of how it isn't, I'll be happy to prove you wrong
[05:37] <reisio> jn_jn: cool, just curious
[05:37] <reisio> and please don't apologize to me about English
[05:37] <reisio> I don't speak two languages
[05:37] <Hetr0Erectus> its like saying kompozer is on pair with dreamweaver
[05:37] <Hetr0Erectus> sure you can create nice looking webpages in both... but theyre far off from eachother
[05:37] <reisio> think you mean 'par'
[05:37] <Hetr0Erectus> yeah
[05:37] <reisio> you can't create nice looking webpages in either :p
[05:37] <jn_jn> reisio, lol ok nice to meet u all
[05:37] <xangua> Gimp saved my ass the other day, always does
[05:37] <Bashing-om> oldtopman: Wonder why ? show ' cat -n /etc/apt/sources.list ; tail -v -n +1 /etc/apt/sources.list.d/* ' .
[05:37] <reisio> they rather are on par, IMO, they both suck
[05:38] <Hetr0Erectus> however, for most usage, gimp is fine
[05:38] <Hetr0Erectus> i use gimp
[05:38] <reisio> course you do, it's great
[05:38] <Hetr0Erectus> im just not able to replicate the same stuff i made in photoshop
[05:38] <reisio> Hetr0Erectus: like what?
[05:38] <Hetr0Erectus> well .. i mentioned the simple tool in photoshop earlier, plastic wrap
[05:38] <jn_jn> Hetr0Erectus, yes try to make a seamless texture with photoshop ahah it's a pain in the ass
[05:38] <codfection> but I love linux coz its for free
[05:38] <Guest2348> Hi every one
[05:38] <reisio> Hetr0Erectus: got a link to a plastic wrap example?
[05:39] <reisio> jn_jn: gimp have a filter/plugin for that?
[05:39] <Guest2348> In my system sound symbol is not showing up in taskbar
[05:39] <codfection> broke people with 20 years old laptop can still rock solid on linux
[05:39] <Hetr0Erectus> not here now ... maybe later... i havent slept tonight and its 07 in the morning :o
[05:39] <Hetr0Erectus> im too tired
[05:39] <jn_jn> reisio, of course
[05:39] <reisio> Hetr0Erectus: :p ninite
[05:39] <xangua> 🌛
[05:40] <reisio> xangua: twss
[05:40] <oldtopman> Bashing-om: What am I looking for in them>
[05:40] <Hetr0Erectus> nah .. had a bad headache yesterday and slept all day, and throat is sore .. think i got some kind of flu or something
[05:40] <Hetr0Erectus> im fine
[05:40] <Hetr0Erectus> just tired
[05:40] <reisio> jn_jn: 'Make Seamless'?
[05:40] <codfection> Hetr0Erectus, same here. sore throats + headaches + body aches etc.
[05:40] <codfection> you took anti biotics ?
[05:40] <Hetr0Erectus> yep
[05:40] <jn_jn> reisio, yep and with some tweak you can improve the image
[05:40] <Hetr0Erectus> not yet.. got this yesterday
[05:41] <reisio> hrmmm
[05:41] <Hetr0Erectus> if i stay in bed and sleep lots maybe it'll pass
[05:41] <jn_jn> reisio, with photoshop is not so simple
[05:41] <codfection> yea
[05:41] <codfection> Hetr0Erectus, get well soon to both of us
[05:41] <codfection> hehe
[05:41] <reisio> I don't deal with that much, there's a simple tool I used to use for it
[05:42] <reisio> it would basically stretch and/or repeat and/or fade in/out on x & y axes independently until you had it look the way you wanted
[05:42] <Hetr0Erectus> yup :) however though.. other than photoshop and dreamweaver i wont argue with the rest of apps on linux.. linux is even better than win for video editing and music
[05:42] <reisio> better for fixing almost-pattern images, I guess
[05:42] <Bashing-om> oldtopman: If there is the target PPA already installed ..or perhaps driver PPA another .
[05:42] <jn_jn> reisio, also for generate normal map, with photoshop you have to download a plugin from nvidia
[05:43] <Hetr0Erectus> and besides, gimp has its cousin krita
[05:43] <reisio> jn_jn: mmm, interesting
[05:43] <reisio> there are lots of native alternatives to gimp
[05:43] <oldtopman> Bashing-om: I don't have any ppas installed right now though.
[05:43] <reisio> even ones you can pay for if that's your thing
[05:44] <Hetr0Erectus> havent found "lots of" .. theres krita ... mypaint sort of but not really a pro tool like krita or gimp
[05:44] <jn_jn> reisio, like krita?
[05:44] <Guest2348> can i know how to configured Outlook in Ubuntu
[05:44] <Hetr0Erectus> pinta isnt worth mentioning
[05:44] <Hetr0Erectus> darktable and rawtherapee are good
[05:44] <reisio> jn_jn: krita's gratis, IIRC
[05:44] <jn_jn> i don't think krita is better than gimp, is good only for the x mirror
[05:44] <Hetr0Erectus> if you think about those kind of apps
[05:44] <reisio> but otherwise yes; someone already mentioned it
[05:44] <Bashing-om> oldtopman: K, then I can not imagime why the system balks at ' sudo add-apt-repository ppa:graphics-drivers/ppa ' unless there is a typo somewhere , My end looks good to me .
[05:45] <Hetr0Erectus> jn_jn, i think it depends on what you do .. for painting i think krita's better
[05:45] <reisio> if there were a good frontend to imagemagick, that'd probably be the ultimate
[05:45] <oldtopman> aaand now it's working. huh
[05:45] <jn_jn> anyway yes depends on your needs, for make texture use gimp til i die
[05:45] <reisio> course bitmaps are a bit passé
[05:46] <Hetr0Erectus> but graphics these days often splash photos, painting and effects together
[05:46] <Bashing-om> oldtopman: ,, :)
[05:46] <Hetr0Erectus> thats why photoshop is the king
[05:46] <jn_jn> Hetr0Erectus, disagree with you
[05:47] <Hetr0Erectus> you can disagree all you want, but thats my opinion
[05:47] <jn_jn> Hetr0Erectus, try make a macro or aplugin in photoshop... good luck
[05:48] <Hetr0Erectus> try 3d in gimp .. good luck
[05:48] <jn_jn> 3d? photoshop? we speak the same stuff?
[05:48] <Hetr0Erectus> yeah
[05:48] <Hetr0Erectus> theres blender though
[05:48] <jn_jn> ddo isn't photoshop
[05:48] <hateball> !ot
[05:49] <Hetr0Erectus> ok ... we'll agree to disagree.. eod :)
[05:49] <jn_jn> :|
[05:51] <jn_jn> anyway bye all come back to work have a nice day
[05:59] <oldtopman> Bashing-om: Still goes to black screen :/
[06:00] <oldtopman> dmesg is full of "argument #4 type mismatches"
[06:02] <Bashing-om> oldtopman: Ouch ! Well then the log file to look at is ' cat /var/log/Xorg.0.log ' . Into a pastebin; see if it is a driver issue .
[06:05] <oldtopman> http://www.hastebin.com/vojavohuzo.coffee
[06:05] <oldtopman> Bashing-om: ^
[06:06] <oldtopman> I think it was the kernel update that killed it.
[06:06] <Bashing-om> oldtopman: Reading .. I be a while /
[06:07] <Bashing-om> oldtopman: so far so good . " (II) NVIDIA GLX Module  361.45.11  Tue May 17 17:44:39 PDT 2016 " .
[06:09] <oldtopman> I mean, it's got to be kind of working - the Ubuntu splash screen comes up on boot and shutdown
[06:10] <oldtopman> Also, I'd even be happy to go back to straight nouveau, I just want the gui working again :P
[06:17] <hicoleri> I tried to modify the default error handler (love.errhand) but my game immediately exits after launching. The same thing happens when I simply copy paste the default error handler. why is that?
[06:18] <hicoleri> oh whoops wrong channel
[06:18] <hicoleri> sorry
[06:19] <oldtopman> Bashing-om: Reinstall time?
[06:20] <gbell_> The intel driver is unstable on my Trusty system.  When I see xserver-xorg-video-intel-lts-wily, is that the backported driver?  Doesn't look like simple swap-in :)
[06:21] <Seveas> gbell_: the name does indeed suggest a backported driver.
[06:21] <gbell_> Great, thanks.  aptitude reports lots of potential conflicts... would it be easier to just compile it off github?
[06:22] <Bashing-om> oldtopman: Still considering what the log relates .. " intel(G0): Enabled output LVDS1 " multi monitors ? as " NVIDIA(0): Valid display device(s) on GPU-0 at PCI:1:0:0 >> NVIDIA(0): No enabled display devices found; starting anyway . HUH ???
[06:23] <oldtopman> I had some multi-monitor stuff going on earlier that day.
[06:23] <gbell_> Thanks Seveas.  See above (sorry)
[06:23] <gbell_> Thanks @Seveas.  See above (sorry)
[06:23] <gbell_> Thanks Seveas:  See above (sorry)
[06:23] <gbell_> (NOOB!)
[06:24] <oldtopman> Bashing-om: But that's stored in xorg.conf, right?
[06:25] <Sterist> is there a way to verify that my livecd is 64bit?
[06:25] <somsip> Sterist: uname -a
[06:26] <Sterist> x86_64 so... self explanatory? lol
[06:26] <Bashing-om> oldtopman: It is well past my end of session here ,, ny thinking is not to good now . Perhaps others can pick this up and ofer suggestions . We removed the old xorg file and a new one should have been created , A thought to check and see that the /etc/X11/xorg.conf file was created .
[06:26] <somsip> Sterist: yes, i686 being the other IIRC
[06:26] <oldtopman> It has been.
[06:27] <oldtopman> Thanks for the help bashing. You've got me started pretty good. This will teach me to update what ain't broken :p
[06:27] <gbell> Seveas: Sorry my IRC client wasn't letting me callout properly.  Considering installing a backported driver causes all sorts of package conflicts, is usual best practice to just compile it off x.org ?
[06:28] <oldtopman> Bashing-om: I'm such an idiot
[06:28] <oldtopman> Bashing-om: It works, it's just on the external display
[06:28] <oldtopman> lol
[06:28] <oldtopman> Thanks so much! :D
[06:28] <Bashing-om> If it were not for " NVIDIA(0): No enabled display devices found; starting anyway " I woild be tempted to look at this as an ACPI issue . But I do not know what to make of this notice .
[06:28] <mintux> my root is 100% full but it's not true it's df -h: http://codepad.org/IjESJZzW and its du -m of root: http://codepad.org/6PDQFiTC how can i found out which files make root disk full?
[06:28] <Bashing-om> would*
[06:30] <micky> hello
[06:31] <Seveas> gbell: hmm, where is this package coming from?
[06:31] <gbell> Seveas: standard backports?
[06:32] <gbell> Seveas: deb http://au.archive.ubuntu.com/ubuntu/ trusty-backports main restricted universe multiverse
[06:32] <Seveas> sounds sensible enough. Try apt-get -n install xserver-xorg-video-intel-lts-wily
[06:33] <Seveas> that' won't install it, but its output will show the conflicts in pastebin-able form
[06:33] <Sterist> the installer seems to default to wanting to split my allocated 200gb into 100 for "Files (3.6gb)" and 100 for "Ubuntu". the 3.6gb part suggests that is the OS, but the title Ubuntu also suggests that half is the OS. anyone know the difference?
[06:35] <hateball> Bashing-om, oldtopman I havent followed the whole conversation, but did you try nvidia-367 from PPA?
[06:35] <Sterist> either way, 100gb sounds very excessive for OS
[06:36] <reisio> Sterist: nothing extant on the disk?
[06:36] <Sterist> Windows 10
[06:36] <reisio> Sterist: 'Files' isn't some extant partition?
[06:37] <reisio> maybe one with 3.6GB of data on it?
[06:37] <Sterist> extant is not a word
[06:37]  * reisio shrugs
[06:37] <Sterist> lol
[06:37] <somsip> Sterist: its a perfectly cromulent word ;)
[06:37] <Sterist> I have a 200gb ext4 partition, I just formatted it so it should be blank
[06:38] <Sterist> formatted immediately before running installer
[06:38] <reisio> formatted with what
[06:39] <Sterist> I select Install Alongside Widows and this screen with 100gb / 100gb split is the next screen
[06:39] <Sterist> gparted on livecd
[06:40] <Sterist> I did not create 2 100gb partitions, but it seems that's what the installer wants to do
[06:41] <reisio> why would you select install alongside windows if the entire disk is empty
[06:41] <gbell> Seveas: http://pastebin.com/9ccN5F1i   a 'minor' conflict with xorg :)  Using aptitude to suggest fixes shows nothing particularly clean.
[06:42] <Sterist> the disk is not empty. I never said it was
[06:42] <reisio> this is probably fallout from prematurely formatting
[06:42] <reisio> try deleting the partition and letting the installer do its own job
[06:42] <Sterist> one moment
[06:43] <Seveas> looks like you need to upgrade the entire X stack from backports
[06:43] <Seveas> apt-get -n install xserver-xorg-core-lts-wily may give more clues (generally: follow the 'is not going to be installed' lines until you get an actual conflict)
[06:43] <gbell> Seveas: That's what I was worried about.  Yet none of the conflict resolution ideas looks like that... most leave  important stuff (e.g. dri or glx) uninstalled.
[06:43] <Sterist> oooh gparted now shows 3.6gb on the 200gb ext4i just formatted (0_o) makes no sense
[06:44] <Sterist> the installer still detected it as 2 100gb's lol makes no sense!!! anyways.... deleting now.
[06:44] <Seveas> gbell: I'm just speculating here, but the conflict resolution may like 'least amount of changes' best, where 'removing one package' is better than 'replacing 100 packages with others'
[06:45] <gbell> Seveas: yes.   but one of the packages to remove is "ubuntu-desktop".
[06:46] <Sterist> should I select sda1 (Windows boot manager) as device for bootloader or leave it default SDA
[06:46] <Bashing-om> hateball: Tried the 352 from repo, and 361 from our PPA . I do not know what to make of " NVIDIA(0): No enabled display devices found; starting anyway " . The 361 driver did install .: http://www.hastebin.com/vojavohuzo.coffee .
[06:46] <Seveas> gbell: hmm. Annoying. cWhat I'd try next is apt-get -n install xserver-xorg-core-lts-wily xserver-xorg-video-intel-lts-wily. And then keep adding packages to that line that it complains about 'not going to be installed' until it has a line that has another error than 'not going to be installed'
[06:48] <Seveas> at some point you'll hopefully end up with a long apt-get install line that'll do the needful without removing ubuntu-desktop, thereby "manually" providing a solution for the conflict. I've never done this for backported X packages though, so no idea how well (if at all) it'll work
[06:48] <gbell> Seveas: Yep.  The line then has about 20 packages, and in the "to be removed" section is still ubuntu-desktop.
[06:48] <hateball> Bashing-om: I'd still try 367, and make sure there's no xorg.conf present
[06:49] <Seveas> gbell: can you pastebin the command and its output?
[06:50] <trijntje> I'm having problems installing 16.04 using lvm, the installer hangs. Does the installer have a log where you can see whats going wrong?
[06:51] <Seveas> trijntje: isn't it simply logging to /var/log/syslog?
[06:51] <Sterist> should I select sda1 (Windows boot manager) as device for bootloader or leave it default SDA
[06:52] <Seveas> gbell: I'll be afk for ~20 minutes
[06:52] <gbell> Seveas: It's a monster.  Here ya go (thanks a lot):  http://pastebin.com/as7cWvs0
[06:54] <amazoniantoad> Where can I go to ask questions about ubuntu tablet OS?
[06:55] <k1l_> !touch | amazoniantoad
[06:55] <Bashing-om> hateball: oldtopman ^^ I am done for this session ,, head is pounding and eyes are crossing , I hope yall get this figured out .
[06:58] <trijntje> Seveas: you're right, thanks
[06:59] <random> Hi, can anyone explain what the difference between Cinnamon and (other desktop name i can't remember) is?
[07:02] <Davycrockett> Mate is a fork of the old Gnome and Cinnimon is a copy of the old Gnome using the newer librarys.
[07:04] <random> Thanks for the useful info Davy
[07:04] <Davycrockett> No problem mate.
[07:05] <random> One more thing, which is more popular/supported Cinnamon or MATE?
[07:05] <random> I'm asking this coz I need to know when I download Mint Linux
[07:06] <Davycrockett> I'm not too sure on that one. I prefer mate out of the two but thats just personal. I use KDE.
[07:07] <amazoniantoad> Where can I download ubuntu touch?
[07:07] <Lope> If anyone here is running a 4.4 kernel (type `uname -r` to check, you will be if you use Ubuntu 16.04). So if you have a 4.4 kernel and you're running an NFS server, if you could be so kind as to try mounting one of your NFS shares with NFSv3 (instead of the default NFSv4) I would really appreciate you to provide feedback on my Kernel Bug report. https://bugzilla.kernel.org/show_bug.cgi?id=118881 Just test like this: `mount NFSSERVERIP:/nfs/shared/path /tmp/te
[07:07] <Lope> stmount -o ro,vers=3`
[07:07] <random> Anyone played Battle for Wesnoth, I just started the tutorial and can't really get my head around the game, seems like an oldstyle RPG or something
[07:07] <random> thx again Davy btw
[07:08] <Davycrockett> Anytime mate.
[07:08] <Lope> Just test like this: `mount NFSSERVERIP:/nfs/shared/path /tmp/testmount -o ro,vers=3`
[07:10] <ducasse> random: there's a manual in /usr/share/doc/wesnoth-1.12-data/
[07:10] <random> ok thx ducasse will check it out later'
[07:15] <Sterist> okay I've tried both manual and automatic methods with the Ubuntu installer, and every time it finishes and I reboot, it just goes straight to Windows... no grub
[07:15] <Seveas> gbell: looks like you'll need an even more monstrous command line: for all the xorg packages it's trying to remove, add the -lts-wily version to the list of to be installed
[07:15] <Seveas> gbell: at this point I do have to wonder whether there's an easier way though. Was there nothing on the wiki about this?
[07:16] <gbell> Seveas: Not that I saw.  The driver off git compiles pretty easily and it looks like I just have to copy the .la and .so files on top of what's in /usr.  Not too bad...
[07:16] <Seveas> gbell: how about https://wiki.ubuntu.com/Kernel/LTSEnablementStack ?
[07:17] <Seveas> sudo apt-get install --install-recommends linux-generic-lts-wily xserver-xorg-core-lts-wily xserver-xorg-lts-wily xserver-xorg-video-all-lts-wily xserver-xorg-input-all-lts-wily libwayland-egl1-mesa-lts-wily
[07:17] <Guest95005> hola
[07:18] <Seveas> Hello Guest95005, how can we help you?
[07:18] <Guest95005> no hablo ingles
[07:19] <Guest95005> buenas noches a todos
[07:23] <gbell> Seveas: Interesting!  No longer wants to remove ubuntu-desktop.  Still some "recommends" and "suggesteds".  Should I put those on the commandline too?
[07:23] <Sterist> okay I've tried both manual and automatic methods with the Ubuntu installer, and every time it finishes and I reboot, it just goes straight to Windows... no grub, anyone have ideas?
[07:26] <trijntje> Sterist: where did you install grub to?
[07:27] <DevAntoine> hi
[07:28] <Seveas> gbell: can you pastebin the thing? Can't really give proper advice without seeing what it's trying to do :)
[07:29] <gbell> Seveas: You mean the most recent output...
[07:29] <Seveas> yeah
[07:30] <Sterist> trijntje: when I did manual partition selection, I left it default at sda. when I chose Install Alongside Widows Boot Manager, it didn't tell me where it installed
[07:30] <gbell> Seveas: Is the output useful without the sub-steps?  http://pastebin.com/KtcAHpBs
[07:30] <Sterist> trijntje: it was probably also default sda
[07:31] <Seveas> gbell: that output looks absolutely fine
[07:31] <Seveas> no need to add extra things to the commandline, this can run as-is
[07:33] <gbell> Seveas: Interesting.  Was that command line just the 'recommendeds' from one of my previous outputs?
[07:33] <Seveas> gbell: a bit more than that. Especiall the -all metapackages will have helped apt in making the right decisions
[07:34] <gbell> Seveas: and --install-recommends.  Right.  Thanks much.  Still sort of a huge/dangerous upgrade.
[07:35] <Seveas> gbell: ayup.
[07:36] <Dancer_> guys can anybody take a look at this thread please http://askubuntu.com/questions/777594/wifi-not-working-after-upgrade-from-14-04-to-16-04-rt3290-adaptor
[07:36] <gbell> Seveas: Oh man, I just noticed, you grabbed the upstream kernel too!  LIkely to break lots of other stuff?
[07:37] <Seveas> gbell: you'll need to use the newer kernel, or the xorg drivers won't work properly
[07:38] <gbell> Seveas: if I add some of the suggested packages (including seemingly important ones like xfonts-100dpi xfonts-75dpi) I get messages about there not actually being that package available... odd.
[07:38] <jatin30> I am trying to set up LAMP in my system. It syas in the instructions "Change the DocumentRoot to point to the new location. For example, /home/user/public_html/" but there is no such directory currently present in the system. what to do?
[07:40] <Seveas> gbell: heh, that doesn't entirely surprise me. Package maintainers often neglect their Suggests: lines
[07:40] <Seveas> jatin30: which instructions are that?
[07:40] <Seveas> because that sounds 100% wrong
[07:41] <jatin30> seveas, point no. 3 in heading "Virtual hosts" in this link, https://help.ubuntu.com/community/ApacheMySQLPHP
[07:41] <gbell> Seveas: Interesting.  So I just don't worry about them?
[07:42] <jatin30> Seveas, can I direct message you?
[07:42] <Seveas> gbell: I'd install the linux-firmware one if that doesn't cause conflicts
[07:43] <gbell> jatin30: That's under the suPHP section.  Probably not what you want?
[07:43] <Seveas> jatin30: hmm, those instructions could use some work, but they're not as bad as I thought. Anyway, you can simply create that directory.
[07:43] <csplinter> Hey, fellas. I'm having an installation issue here. I've got a hdd with a fresh install of win10 occupying the first half/partition of the drive. I boot to the 16.04 install DVD and when I reach the partition selection step, a "ubiquity" "internal error" occurs.
[07:44] <jatin30> Seveas: Ok. Can I direct message you?
[07:44] <Seveas> jatin30: preferably not.
[07:44] <Seveas> !pm
[07:45] <Seveas> I also should be working, so I'm going afk now :)
[07:45] <jatin30> Seveas: Ok! thanks anyways
[07:45] <zetheroo> I have some items in the AutoStart list in Ubuntu 16.04 - where would be the best place to see why an entry in the AutoStart is not working?
[07:45] <gbell> jatin30: You'll find Apache is pretty particular about permissions.  If you want to be able to write into that dir as yourself, you'll need to make your user a member of www-data (or whatever the group apache belongs to).  I usually end up with DocumentRoot pretty high up in the file hierarchy just to avoid problems (like /data/www).
[07:46] <gbell> Seveas: Oddly "Package firmware-linux is not available, but is referred to by another package"
[07:46] <jatin30> gbell: I am new to linux so I did not get exactly what you said however I still got an idea. Thanks!
[07:47] <csplinter> Are there any known causes for ubiquity crashes during drive formating?
[07:48] <Paprikachu_> hi, how can i disable this window overlay that is drawn when i scroll past the end of a panel
[07:48] <gbell> jatin30: My mistake - the /user/public_html recommendation was in an earlier/more general section.  Either way, that's a weird place for it.  Getting Apache to be happy is one of the bigger PITAs in Linux so stick with it!
[07:49] <Lope> nevermind regarding my kernel bug report above. Seems to be my iptables rules.
[07:50] <jatin30> gbell: Ok! Thanks Can I dm you? I really need to talk about this
[07:50] <gbell> Seveas: Actually, it's called linux-firmware in 14.04.  Funny.  Like you said, neglected field in the package's config :)  That helps a lot knowing that's just a text field and can be wrong / say anything.
[07:50] <csplinter> I give my word of honor that a $5.00 bounty will be awarded via paypal for a workable solution.
[07:50] <niko> :22
[07:51] <csplinter> in the next 10 minutes anyway
[07:51] <Seveas> gbell: yeah, you could put go-jump-off-a-cliff in as a Suggests: if you want :)
[07:53] <Paprikachu_> hi, how can i disable this window overlay that is drawn when i scroll past the end of a panel
[07:57] <gbell> jatin30: You could if you really wanted, but I'm not going to be able to type a bunch of stuff over email that's any more helpful than that article :)   gbell_spamless on yahoo's mail domain.  Do you have anybody that can help you in person?  You could have me log into your machine, but everybody here will probably tell you that's a terrible idea :)  (I had a driver maintainer do that for me once - magic of ssh / shared screen
[07:59] <csplinter> offer withdrawn
[08:21] <gagagugu> is there a way to install grsecurity on ubuntu?
[08:22] <hacker> Hey
[08:23] <galopin> salut
[08:30] <dryblow> *l*
[08:30]  * dryblow t
[08:35] <Jakey3> if i change an image name of a .vdi for virtualbox
[08:36] <Jakey3> how do I change the path to that virtual image so that it loads
[08:40] <Jakey3> http://imgur.com/tyH5xny
[08:41] <Melvin_> If i run: sudo service ssh start                   I get the following error: Failed to start ssh.service: Unit ssh.service is masked.
[08:41] <Jakey3> i changed the image name and get the above error
[08:41] <Jakey3> how do I modify the image directory
[08:43] <Jakey3> worked it out must change storage
[08:50] <dante> l
[08:50] <alkisg> Hi, there's an autogenerated .html web page somewhere in ubuntu.com or launchpad.net, that lists all of the packages in the -proposed repositories, along with how long they've been in the queue etc... but I can't find it in google... does anyone know its URL?
[08:50] <lennie> Goodmorning, I have a question regarding changing the default map from /home/test into /home when I log on with my user. Does anyone know the commandline to solve this? Thanks in advance.
[08:53] <trijntje> lennie: why would you want that? I dont think thats even possible
[08:54] <vamadir> ubuntu 14.04 .      howto make working salt+md5 password from mysql with freeradius?
[08:56] <lennie> Goodmorning, I have a question regarding changing the default map from /home/test into /home when I log on with my user (SFTP). Does anyone know the commandline to solve this? Thanks in advance.
[08:56] <Melvin_> Heey, when i sudo apt-get update i get this error
[08:56] <Melvin_> http://pastebin.com/532fDbZk
[08:57] <d> is there a way to lunch sound indicator with command line?
[08:57] <Melvin_> The Error i get when i run sudo apt-get update   http://pastebin.com/532fDbZk           and my sources.list       http://pastebin.com/QHyNVvSC
[08:58] <alkisg> Melvin_: can you ping us.archive.ubuntu.com ? can you ping www.google.com ?
[08:58] <nisseni> I'm having problem getting make to work. as I run ./configure it creates make-files - but running make throws *** No targets specified and no makefile found.  Stop.
[08:59] <Melvin_> alkisg: i can't ping those but i can ping 8.8.8.8
[08:59] <alkisg> Melvin_: that means that your DNS is misconfigured
[08:59] <alkisg> It's not an issue with apt
[08:59] <Melvin_> alkisg: so what is the easy way to set the dns to defaults?
[08:59] <Melvin_> :)
[09:00] <nisseni> what's the difference between ./configure and ./config ?
[09:00] <alkisg> Melvin_: I don't know what you did to break it, but usually your router/dhcp server sends the dns server to be used
[09:00] <alkisg> Did you mess with network manager or with /etc/network/interfaces etc etc?
[09:00] <Melvin_> maybe a little bit :$
[09:00] <alkisg> Both of those?
[09:01] <Melvin_> Do i need to set the DNS for static ip also :$
[09:01] <Melvin_> because then i forgot that maybe xD
[09:01] <trijntje> I'm trying to get access to an encrypte home. when I run ecryptfs-recover-private, it 'mounts' something in /tmp/ecryptfs. But when I go there I still cant get to my files
[09:02] <alkisg> Melvin_: the normal is not to configure anything, which means that network-manager will autosetup a connection for you, with settings from your router
[09:02] <alkisg> We need to know what you did to break it, in order to undo it
[09:02] <alkisg> E.g. if you edited /etc/network/interfaces, you need to revert it
[09:02] <Melvin_> But the thing is, i need a static ip for the SSH
[09:02] <alkisg> You can set up a static ip in network-manager
[09:02] <Melvin_> But it's a server :)
[09:03] <alkisg> Then in /etc/network/interfaces, if you're using that, but you also need to include the dns server there
[09:03] <alkisg> What are the contents of /etc/network/interfaces?
[09:03] <Melvin_> http://pastebin.com/g5ELkY6s
[09:04] <Melvin_> alkisg: http://pastebin.com/g5ELkY6s
[09:05] <alkisg> Melvin_: you need one more line with dns-nameservers, see http://askubuntu.com/questions/143819/how-do-i-configure-my-static-dns-in-interfaces
[09:05] <Melvin_> alkisg: Melvin *facepalms himself*
[09:05] <alkisg> :)
[09:05] <Melvin_> alkisg: thank you alkisg :)
[09:05] <alkisg> You're welcome
[09:07] <Melvin_> alkisg: if i put dns-nameserver 8.8.8.8    that would work right?
[09:07] <trijntje> I'm trying to get access to an encrypte home. when I run ecryptfs-recover-private, it 'mounts' something in /tmp/ecryptfs. But when I go there I still cant get to my files
[09:07] <CB6> Evening, what's the command to pull up the desktop display settings? I don't see it under general settings?> I didn't find my answer on Google. I can't even see what I am typing here properly lol
[09:07] <alkisg> Melvin_: it should, yes
[09:07] <CB6> I want to setup 1920x1080p
[09:07] <Melvin_> alkisg: i have rebooted the server, lets wait for the outcome ^^
[09:07] <rory> CB6: gnome-control-center display
[09:08] <CB6> ok ty
[09:08] <rory> CB6: You can also set the resolution directly from the terminal http://askubuntu.com/a/398740
[09:08] <Melvin_> alkisg: it works, thank you
[09:08] <alkisg> np :)
[09:10] <noob> hello
[09:10] <noob> just installed some updates on my ubuntu 14.4 and when i restarted, the dash is gone and there is a new menu to acceess apps called "Activities"
[09:10] <noob> please advice
[09:11] <CB6> System settings isn't showing a display settings option. It shows firewall and updates
[09:11] <noob> @CB6 did you use phpstorm software?
[09:12] <CB6> I wouldn't know to be honest. It's been a whiole
[09:12] <CB6> while*\
[09:13] <CB6> I do recall doing a rain package at one point for the desktop
[09:13] <noob> sudo apt-get install ubuntu-desktop
[09:13] <noob> did you do this?
[09:14] <noob> this will reinstall and when you log in again it will have the settings back
[09:14] <pontus_> yo yo ppl
[09:15] <noob> some packages have conflict. I have installed a package for phpstorm software and I got the same problem then I did: sudo apt-get install ubuntu-desktop and it worked
[09:15] <CB6> Installed now
[09:15] <kltrg> Hello, ducasse! Remember how you helped me to set up vnc4server and lightdm? Connecting to the server now works but after typing in my credentials, no desktop environment is able to load. Can you help me with that, too?
[09:16] <noob> did it work?
[09:16] <CB6> Nothing new in there
[09:17] <noob> when I installed it, it loged me out
[09:17] <noob> then I had to log in again
[09:17] <CB6> system settings works again so that worked
[09:18] <CB6> I installed kodi but I don't know if this had anything to do with it would it?
[09:18] <ducasse> kltrg: check the lightdm logs, or auth.log maybe.
[09:22] <Xat`> hi guys, is ubuntu 10.04 impacted by the cve cve-2016-2108 ?
[09:23] <gregf_> hello, needed a quick help
[09:23] <somsip> !10.04 | Xat` (dead by now)
[09:23] <gregf_> i know something is scheduled - not as a crontab for sure
[09:23] <gregf_> i kill a process - and it spawns immediately
[09:24] <EriC^> gregf_: which process?
[09:24] <gregf_> its an application - spring boot
[09:24] <gregf_> i had an entry in /etc/init/foo.conf
[09:25] <Xat`> somsip: maybe it is not supported anymore, but is ubuntu 10.04 impacted by this cve-2016-2108 ?
[09:25] <gregf_> EriC^: and i guess it would run that. but i've now commented it out. do i need to reboot?
[09:25] <Xat`> I don't need any update, I just want to know if I'm vulnerable
[09:25] <gregf_> for changes to take place?
[09:25] <EriC^> gregf_: which ubuntu?
[09:26] <gregf_> 12.10
[09:26] <gregf_> :|
[09:26] <gregf_> its an ec2 instance
[09:26] <EriC^> gregf_: try sudo service stop <foo>
[09:26] <gregf_> *we will be upgrading shortly*
[09:26] <gregf_> sure
[09:26] <EriC^> gotcha
[09:27] <gregf_> EriC^: i've also got a service in /etc/init.d/foo
[09:27] <gregf_> EriC^++
[09:27]  * EriC^ segfaults
[09:27] <gregf_> EriC^: so does scripts under init have more precedence over init.d?
[09:28] <gregf_> s/does/do/
[09:28] <EriC^> no idea really
[09:28] <EriC^> i think both run or maybe upstart is smart enough to see they're clones dunno
[09:28] <CB6> The display is going off the screen. Monitor is 1920x1080p
[09:28] <gregf_> i mean if i reboot - which ones are run first?
[09:28] <ducasse> kltrg: if the desktop starts to load, check ~/.xsession-errors
[09:29] <EriC^> gregf_: no idea
[09:29] <EriC^> !upstart | gregf_ more info here
[09:29] <pontus_> hmm
[09:29] <gregf_> EriC^: well the file unde /etc/init/foo.conf has got all start, respawn, script runlevel commands. but my script under /etc/init.d/foo is a bash script
[09:30] <gregf_> ah - ok. upstart. *was looking for some info on that*
[09:30] <EriC^> gregf_: i'd guess the foo.conf is making it respawn
[09:31] <gregf_> yep exactly, but kill has no effect. but sudo service foo stop has :|
[09:31] <gregf_> EriC^: so what you're saying is theres 2 ways of starting services. upstart and system-V?
[09:31] <gregf_> and systemd i guess
[09:32] <Melvin_> Heey, i need to install a few owncloud php modules, is there anyone that can help me with that?
[09:32] <EriC^> well sort of yeah, upstart has sysv compatibility
[09:32] <gregf_> EriC^: ok. thanks very much!
[09:32] <CB6> scale for menu doesn't exactly help lol. Anyone have any experience with the display going off screen? I'm not using the AMD drivers but the open source tested ones
[09:32] <EriC^> gregf_: no problem
[09:33] <CB6> I'm using the recommended tested drivers and not the AMD ones
[09:34] <CB6> lol ok so apparently my view in here didn't show when I increased the scale menu hah.
[09:38] <CB6> Figured it out, "Overscan" on the monitor makes the edges of images go offscreen. Turned this off on the monitor and it appears normal.
[09:39] <CB6> Thanks for all your help!
[09:39] <Melvin_> Heey, i need to install a few owncloud php modules, is there anyone that can help me with that?
[09:39] <agdafaf> 0hey, help me please:
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[09:40] <SwedeMike> ml
[09:40] <geekos> Bonjour , Hello
[09:43] <aekara170> kaλημερα
[09:43] <EriC^> !gr | aekara170
[09:44] <kltrg> ducasse, Here are several logs: http://paste.ubuntu.com/16703595/ A lot of warnings for which I can’t understand if they’re important or not.
[09:50] <stakewinner00> after installing synaptic (apt install synaptic), the installation failed and the PC gives me a kernel panic (in rescue mode too), how can i fix it without reinstalling ubuntu?
[09:51] <EriC^> stakewinner00: put init=/bin/bash in the grub kernel line
[09:51] <EriC^> and mount -o remount,rw / then troubleshoot
[09:51] <ducasse> kltrg: i'm not sure unity would work, have you tried something different?
[09:52] <kltrg> ducasse, I have. I tried Gnome. It’s the same.
[09:53] <ducasse> kltrg: that wouldn't work either, it requires 3d accel.
[09:53] <stakewinner00> EriC^, i added init=/bin/sh in the end of the line that says "linux /boot/<kernel> root=UUID=<hexa-number> ro single" or something similar.
[09:53] <EriC^> try /bin/bash
[09:54] <EriC^> what happened when you did
[09:54] <stakewinner00> whith init=/bin/sh the systems try to start as normal, (doesn't start /bin/sh)
[09:54] <kltrg> ducasse, I thought I also tried Gnome Flashback but I seems I didn’t. I logged into it and it seems to work. Thanks for the hint.
[09:55] <EriC^> try init=/bin/bash instead of quiet splash
[09:55] <ducasse> kltrg: no problem.
[09:56] <stakewinner00> EriC^, ok, but how it can made any difference?
[09:56] <EriC^> stakewinner00: it should work, i've tried it
[09:57] <Shai-Tan> Hi guys, just updated  to 16.04 however, php is showing the source rather than parsing the code.. sudo a2enmod php does not get it going either. Anything I am missing?
[09:58] <stakewinner00> i thought that with /bin/sh should work too, when i arrive i will try with /bin/bash
[09:59] <EriC^> stakewinner00: put it instead of quiet splash, not at the very end after $vt_handoff --
[09:59] <pashok> Hi All, my ubuntu configured as remote rsyslog server and all logs that cames from remote machines goes to /var/log/syslog and /var/log/kern.log, how to i configuring to write remote logs to specific file?
[10:01] <noggerfroggereli> hi guys, i' have been using the usb mountable disk creator from ubuntu 16.4 and 2 of my usb drives that i have used this way seems to be no more usable
[10:01] <EriC^> stakewinner00: maybe it doesn't work cause /bin/sh is symlink
[10:01] <noggerfroggereli> i cannot format them
[10:01] <EriC^> stakewinner00: that or you put it after -- i think, i've tried it instead of quiet splash and it works
[10:01] <ayush_> hello
[10:01] <ayush_> world
[10:02] <ayush_> anyone der?
[10:03] <hateball> !help | ayush_
[10:03] <noggerfroggereli> gparted tells me there should be gpt partition with fake msdos
[10:03] <noggerfroggereli> but there is no more gpt partition
[10:04] <ayush_> !help noggerfroggereli
[10:04] <ayush_> :X
[10:04] <noggerfroggereli> this is giving me hell
[10:05] <kltrg> ducasse, Can I bother you once more? Right now, the VNC window is bigger than the space left on my client (the local panel and the window decoration use some space, too). How can I fit the VNC window to my client?
[10:10] <ducasse> kltrg: oh, that's easy to fix, you specify the resolution you want in lightdm.conf on the server :)
[10:10] <noggerfroggereli> how should a mountable usb boot device be formatted after been succesfully utilized in order to use it as a simple 1 partition windows friendly usb device?
[10:10] <noggerfroggereli> gparted is having lots of problems trying to do this and windows show me the device as 2 mb usb drive (it's 2 gb)
[10:10] <EriC^> noggerfroggereli: type sudo parted -l | nc termbin.com 9999
[10:13] <noggerfroggereli> output is
[10:13] <noggerfroggereli> use netcat
[10:14] <Jakey3> how to i check if my partitions are aligned correctly
[10:14] <Jakey3> ?
[10:15] <EriC^> noggerfroggereli: try again
[10:16] <EriC^> noggerfroggereli: try sudo apt-get install pastebinit then sudo parted -l | pastebinit
[10:16] <EriC^> Jakey3: https://wiki.archlinux.org/index.php/partitioning#Partition_alignment
[10:19] <fungmen> testing
[10:19] <fungmen> helo any body home ? echooooo......
[10:19] <matteo> ok
[10:19] <noggerfroggereli> seems to be processing
[10:19] <noggerfroggereli> still havent got any output
[10:20] <fungmen> anyone know how to use memex ?
[10:20] <fungmen> on ubuntu
[10:23] <kltrg> Thanks, ducasse. I have to test a lot of things now and I probably will come back to ask for several things, encryption for example.
[10:24] <noggerfroggereli> sudo parted -l | pastebinit is not working
[10:24] <ducasse> kltrg: that's fine, i'm here most days, daytime in europe. so everything works fine now?
[10:24] <EriC^> noggerfroggereli: what's it saying
[10:24] <noggerfroggereli> nothing it just hangs
[10:26] <ninja_> command to reset wifi ?
[10:26] <EriC^> noggerfroggereli: ok, try sudo partprobe && lsblk | pastebinit
[10:26] <kltrg> ducasse, I still have to find a client that suits me. Vinagre works in maximized view, but I can’t leave it. Somehow, the hidden top panel doesn’t appear when I point the mouse towards it. So I’m stuck in the distant session. Remmina doesn’t connect. xvnc4viewer doesn’t (as far as I know) support maximizing the distant desktop.
[10:26] <DiamondSword> ninja_, service network-manager restart, maybe?
[10:28] <noggerfroggereli> it says  the device contains gpt singnatures but not a false m sdos table
[10:28] <noggerfroggereli> and
[10:28] <Jakey3> EriC^: thanks
[10:29] <noggerfroggereli> both gpt and backup gpt partition are damaged
[10:29] <ducasse> kltrg: i've always used remmina without problems, don't know why you can't get it to work... it's the best client imo.
[10:29] <spritezzers> Hello! I am having trouble getting my bluetooth speaker working, Ubuntu detects it and can connect to it, and the speakers gives the "connected" sound, but I can't see it in the sound output menu
[10:32] <kltrg> ducasse, I had a badly configured config as a preset. Due to my long trying probably. I started with a fresh Remmina connect window and it works. I’ll give it a go.
[10:33] <EriC^> noggerfroggereli: np, get the names of the usb's
[10:33] <EriC^> like /dev/sdb etc
[10:33] <yoni_> join #calico
[10:34] <ducasse> kltrg: you do that, afaicr it's pretty easy to set up with an ssh tunnel if you want crypto.
[10:35] <kltrg> ducasse, I definately want that.
[10:36] <noggerfroggereli> one is actually a sandisk microsd and the other one is a kingston dt101 g2
[10:38] <ducasse> kltrg: i haven't really needed it, mainly use vnc on a wired lan. there are probably some guides out there to tunneling vnc in ssh if you look around.
[10:38] <kltrg> ducasse, And the setup I use (vnc4server and lightdm) doesn’t change anything to those tutorials?
[10:39] <lotuspsychje> !vnc | kltrg
[10:40] <kltrg> lotuspsychje, I’ll look into this. Thanks.
[10:42] <ducasse> kltrg: not really, no.
[10:44] <noggerfroggereli> OMG I FOUND A SOLUTION
[10:45] <noggerfroggereli> the usb disk creation utility is the only thing that worked
[10:46] <noggerfroggereli> well it worked on the kingston but not on the microsd
[10:48] <noggerfroggereli> it says to use gnuparted
[10:52] <ankitkulkarni> does anyone know how can i reinitialize a network controller which somehow got detected as ethernet controller by ubuntu14.04 , kernel 3.0.13.67 64 bit
[10:52] <ankitkulkarni> the network controller is attached as a pci device
[10:53] <lotuspsychje> ankitkulkarni: is your system up to date to 14.04.4?
[10:53] <ankitkulkarni> nope
[10:54] <lotuspsychje> ankitkulkarni: please do
[10:54] <ankitkulkarni> the system is 14.04.01
[10:55] <ankitkulkarni> I understand that , however we have few devices with customers which are very difficult to do an upgrade
[10:55] <ankitkulkarni> is there any workaround for it
[10:55] <lotuspsychje> ankitkulkarni: its really not recommended to not bu up to date
[10:56] <lotuspsychje> ankitkulkarni: for security and your overall system working
[10:56] <lotuspsychje> !usn | ankitkulkarni
[10:56] <lotuspsychje> ankitkulkarni: if something doesnt work on latest==> !bug
[10:57] <ankitkulkarni> yeah I got it ,
[10:57] <ankitkulkarni> I will see how can i get all the devices updated
[10:58] <dskw> is there a way to not install games by default in 16.04? i'm installing using the ISO and the graphical installer.
[10:58] <robotdevil1> can chromium play netflix now with widevine?
[10:58] <ankitkulkarni> however I tried these kind of things `sudo sh -c "echo 1 > /sys/bus/pci/devices/0000\:02\:00.0/remove"`
[10:58] <ankitkulkarni> and `sudo sh -c "echo 1 > /sys/bus/pci/rescan "
[10:58] <ankitkulkarni> `
[10:59] <ankitkulkarni> to remove the pci device and rescan it , but it still detects as ethernet controller only
[10:59] <robotdevil1> chrome keeps breaking my system for some reason, and even when it works it opens on the wrong screen after I have follow mouse enabled and use monitor as primary display
[11:00] <pc_> ivka
[11:02] <norech> hi, i just installed ubuntu 14.4 with 3 party drivers and updates checked
[11:02] <robotdevil1> yo
[11:02] <norech> and my wifi doesnt work
[11:02] <norech> and even my usb wifi network adapter doesn't work
[11:03] <norech> when i try to turn them on from the menu nothing happens and they stay off
[11:03] <jakey3> hi ive updated my machine to lubuntu 16.04 now my wireless does not work
[11:04] <jakey3> (2) Active connection removed before it was initialised
[11:05] <jakey3> worked fine on 14.04
[11:05] <aditya> you should probably update your wifi drivers by going to software and updates
[11:05] <dmitryK|log> hi! do you know who is the maintainer of Qt packages in Ubuntu? I would like to ask when the transition from Qt 5.5.1 to 5.6.x is going to happen...
[11:06] <jakey3> im im fully updated
[11:10] <BluesKaj> Hiyas all
[11:10] <ehvagu> hi
[11:13] <ducasse> jakey3: did you upgrade from 14.04 or reinstall?
[11:13] <jakey3> reinstall
[11:13] <nikii> hi
[11:14] <jakey3> ducasse: how come it was working on 14,04 and not 16.04
[11:14] <ducasse> jakey3: no idea. new driver, i'd guess.
[11:15] <jatin30> Why am I getting http://imgur.com/Fw6kC2R after installing apache 2 properly?
[11:16] <nikii> is it possible to force system use same battery mode power options in ac mode?because i have not  fan problem.
[11:17] <alimj> Hello. Just wanted to clarify to myself. It won't be possible to test Unity8/Mir on VMs? And Currently no VM supports it?
[11:18] <lotuspsychje> alimj: unity8 is still under development
[11:18] <stratos> @jatin30: there is probably no users named "user"
[11:19] <lotuspsychje> alimj: most worked on will be 16.10, so experiment with unity8 on vm with 16.10 perhaps?
[11:19] <alimj> lotuspsychje: Tried it on VirtualBox (+Guest additions) and 16.10; Unfortunately did not work
[11:20] <stratos> @jatin30: when you are in /home/jatin/public_html then type "gedit index.html" and enter the html snippet then save the file
[11:20] <lotuspsychje> alimj: 16.10 didnt work, or unity8?
[11:20] <stratos> @jatin30: your attempts to use "echo" are all buggy
[11:20] <robotdevil1> jakey3: is there an additional drivers option?
[11:20] <alimj> lotuspsychje: 16.10 works without any issues. It is the Unity8 that does not work
[11:21] <Paddy_NI> I have installed "ubuntu-desktop" on an Ubuntu MATE 16.04 installation and have run "sudo dpkg-reconfigure ubuntu-desktop" to which nothing happens only to be left with an Ubuntu Unity session that has no panel, desktop, dash or launcher.. Can anyone help?
[11:21] <lotuspsychje> alimj: like i say, unity8 is under development still perhaps little more patient and hangout in #ubuntu+1 ?
[11:22] <jakey3> robotdevil1: yes didnt make a difference though
[11:23] <alimj_> lotuspsychje: Thanks. Will join and enjoy
[11:26] <jakey3_> how is it possible i have my laptop on 14.04 i reinstall 16.04 and my wireless no longer works
[11:26] <rock> hey
[11:27] <rock> how can i install libgtk2.0-dev?
[11:29] <jakey3_> its a Centrino Advanced-N 6205
[11:29] <jakey3_> Wireless interface
[11:30] <ducasse> rock: apt install libgtk2.0-dev?
[11:31] <Paddy_NI> jakey3_, 16.04 has a few problems however I am sure that one should be simple enough to fix.  Have you tried booting from an Ubuntu 16.04 cd/dvd, USB and tested your wireless there?
[11:32] <jakey3_> Paddy_NI: i havent tried from a live cd yet
[11:32] <Paddy_NI> jakey3_, Oh and did you do a clean install or an upgrade?
[11:32] <hugo> new_user
[11:33] <jakey3_> Paddy_NI: clean install
[11:33] <robotdevil1> jakey3_: might not do nothing but I ve seen alot of updates being borked by the gui updaters, do you know how to recovery mode repair broken packages?
[11:33] <jakey3_> robotdevil1: nope
[11:34] <robotdevil1> jakey3_:  dual boot?
[11:34] <jakey3_> i dont know will google it
[11:34] <jakey3_> will check live cd brb
[11:34] <robotdevil1> jakey3_: you just press escape before the ubuntu logo loads and then enable networking and then fix packages
[11:35] <robotdevil1> gotta press it fast thou
[11:35] <ashrov> Hi maybe someone know., How can I add a new test to xymon/hobbit?
[11:36] <kenzu> hiya how do I boot to christian ubuntu from debian linux?
[11:37] <kenzu> hey peter you from Finland :D
[11:37] <k1l> kenzu: boot? make a live usb and boot that?
[11:37] <kenzu> i made a disc already right, on a dvd using brasero in debian, but i restarted comp but it went straight to debian back..
[11:38] <kenzu> can i write over the disc if i made some error?
[11:38] <k1l> test if the dvd is properly made.
[11:39] <kenzu> how do i know if its properly made? what signifies it
[11:39] <k1l> and make sure your pc boots from dvd
[11:39] <kenzu> it does boot from dvd, it did it when i deleted windows and installed debian
[11:40] <VietnamFlashback> GOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOD MOORNNINNG VIEETNAMMM!!!
[11:40] <Paddy_NI> :-)
[11:40] <Paddy_NI> kenzu, Perhaps your computer does not wish to convert
[11:41] <Paddy_NI> kenzu, Or you could change the boot order in your bios?
[11:41] <kenzu> hahahaha
[11:41] <Paddy_NI> :-)
[11:41] <k1l> kenzu: check the md5sum of the dvd. check if there is data on that dvd. when booting the pc make sure you specificly boot from dvd
[11:42] <kenzu>  ok
[11:42] <brunch875> kenzu: double-check the boot order. It's the most likely scenario
[11:43] <kenzu> hmm
[11:44] <jakey3> i check on the live cd wireless work fine
[11:44] <jakey3> i checked on the live cd wireless works fine
[11:44] <robotdevil1> jakey3: https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=HYiTJtYmmzg   its kind of like this method except he doesnt select enable networking and fix broken packages he instead selects failsafe because of his graphics or something, you can also ignore the the other command stuff and just reboot your pc
[11:44] <kenzu> so what was i looking for in the disc again?
[11:44] <k1l> jakey3: you know how it works in here: check what exact hardware you have and show errors from the logs.
[11:44] <jakey3> robotdevil1: thanks for the info
[11:45] <jakey3> k1l: yes
[11:45] <jakey3> is it possible that dkms can mess it up?
[11:45] <k1l> jakey3: what did you do with dkms?
[11:45] <kenzu> I feel more nerdy having linux:D
[11:45] <jakey3> virtualbox with dkms
[11:45] <kenzu> im surrounded by intelligent people :D
[11:45] <kenzu> xD
[11:45] <robotdevil1> jakey3: it will come in handy when other things mess up.... the install must not have loaded or enabled the wireless module
[11:46] <k1l> jakey3: if you did not change manually stuff it wont mess wifi drivers
[11:46] <jakey3> where to find the lofs of wireless
[11:46] <jakey3> *logs
[11:48] <k1l> jakey3: "dmesg" in terminal
[11:49] <kenzu> Hmmm
[11:49] <kenzu> Im gonna quite chat guys
[11:49] <kenzu> bye
[11:49] <Paddy_NI> Bye
[11:50] <jakey3> k1l: what am i looking for dmesg
[11:50] <k1l> jakey3: errors
[11:50] <jakey3> robotdevil1: what is the purpose of booting into safe mode
[11:51] <k1l> jakey3: first make sure what hardware you got and then see what driver should be used
[11:53] <jakey3> k1l: i can see  4.448550] iwlwifi 0000:02:00.0: L1 Enabled - LTR Disabled
[11:53] <jakey3> apart from that
[11:56] <robotdevil1> jakey3: fixes misconfuigured packages
[11:57] <robotdevil1> jakey3: helped my system lots, I would do it by hand but since its installed on ssd its so fast to just used that method .... just do
[11:57] <robotdevil1> I just do*
[11:57] <jakey3> robotdevil1: i see
[11:59] <jakey3> k1l: do i need to reinstall my wireless driver
[12:00] <k1l> jakey3: i still dont know what wifi card that is, what erorrs there are and what driver is in use.
[12:01] <robotdevil1> jakey3: works well when you other sources added to your package manager, google chrome regularly breaks my system
[12:01] <k1l> jakey3: "lspci" will tell you the hardware
[12:01] <jakey3> k1l: here dmesg
[12:01] <jakey3> http://paste.ubuntu.com/16705009/
[12:04] <jakey3> k1l:  Centrino Advanced-N 6205 [Taylor Peak]
[12:06] <k1l> jakey3: i got the same wifi chip in here running on 16.04. the drivers are in the kernel and well working. so what is the issue?
[12:07] <jakey3> k1l: beats me
[12:09] <jatin30> how to i create a test.php file in var/www ? I am not able to manually create that
[12:09] <Fuchs> jatin30: sudo touch test.php
[12:09] <Fuchs> jatin30: but I recommend creating it in your home, editing it, then copying it over with sudo when done
[12:10] <Fuchs> else you have to edit it with sudo as well, which is a bit meh
[12:10] <jatin30> fuchs:thanks
[12:11] <Fuchs> you're welcome
[12:12] <jakey3> robotdevil1: for example if i load into safe mode how would i attempt to fix the wireless dirver issue
[12:12] <k1l> jakey3: "rfkill list" and "ifconfig" in a pastebin please
[12:12] <jakey3> ?
[12:12] <k1l> jakey3: recovery mode doesnt help you at all.
[12:13] <jakey3> ok
[12:13] <jatin30> Fuchs: How do I grant the world (or, at least, Ubuntu user "apache") permission to read test.php
[12:13] <Fuchs> jatin30: via chmod and chown
[12:13] <jatin30> can you type the exact command please?
[12:13] <Fuchs> jatin30: chown changes the owner/group, e.g.  chown user:group file     so you could add the apache/httpd group there
[12:14] <Fuchs> jatin30: I'd rather you read some documentation as this is security relevant, hang on
[12:14] <Fuchs> https://help.ubuntu.com/community/FilePermissions  << this
[12:16] <jakey3> k1l: http://paste.ubuntu.com/16705216/
[12:18] <robotdevil1> jakey3: it doesnt hur t anything better not try .... if fixes broken packages...whatever would have taken 3 minutes to try ...if the other person has the same and it works likely is misconfigured no?
[12:19] <jakey3> robotdevil1: fsair point
[12:28] <BlueProtoman> How can I get the list of all PPAs I've installed in a manner that lets me conveniently reinstall them on another machine?
[12:28] <robotdevil1> jakey3: if I wasnt soing something id try and be more scientific
[12:29] <hateball> BlueProtoman: ls /etc/apt/sources.list.d/
[12:29] <pidybi> hi all
[12:30] <hateball> BlueProtoman: rather, "cat /etc/apt/sources.list.d/*" I suppose
[12:30] <snfgf> What lines do i need in an X11 config to launch terminal emulator on startup? I just have blank screen and mouse pointer atm.
[12:31] <BlueProtoman> hateball: Thanks!
[12:31] <jakey3> robotdevil1: np
[12:31] <hateball> BlueProtoman: Tho that only gets the repos, it doesnt take care of GPG keys etc that apt-add-repository handles for you
[12:33] <BlueProtoman> hateball: That's okay, I have few enough PPAs that I can manually go to their URLs and get the ppa:stuff URIs
[12:34] <hateball> BlueProtoman: :)
[12:34] <pidybi> czy jest tu ktos z Polski? haaalooo ;)
[12:34] <hateball> !pl | pidybi
[12:34] <k1l> !pl | pidybi
[12:37] <pidybi> !pl | pidybi
[12:38] <Lope> what is this? linux-image-extra-virtual - Transitional package
[12:38] <Lope> what does transitional mean here?
[12:39] <\9> Lope: it's been renamed to linux-image-generic but that package exists for compatibility
[12:41] <Lope> oh, I installed it now, but it didn't add any kernel images to my /boot.
[12:41] <\9> it is empty
[12:41] <Lope> hehe, it's 11MB
[12:41] <ouroumov> Guys, anyone know how to start vino-server at boot under systemd? (16.04)
[12:42] <Lope> so if I want a kernel with extra features I should install linux-image-extra-virtual-lts-xenial ?
[12:42] <\9> Lope: it's 1.8KB for me
[12:43] <\9> Lope: linux-image-extra-virtual-lts-xenial also appears to be transitional
[12:46] <Lope> \9: I want to install a linux-image extra kernel, how can I do that?
[12:46] <k1l> Lope: why extra kernel? what do you need?
[12:47] <Bernzel> Is it possible to run Ubuntu on my SSD , and run Windows along side on my other drive? I doubt both OS's will fit on my SSD
[12:47] <Lope> k1l: docker said: warning msg="Your kernel does not support swap memory limit."
[12:47] <k1l> Bernzel: how big is the ssd?
[12:48] <Bernzel> k1l, 120gb but that will be filled with lot's of other stuff too
[12:48] <EriC^> Bernzel: you could run ubuntu and windows on it, and have the hdd for external storage for both
[12:49] <Lope> k1l: oh nevermind.
[12:49] <k1l> Lope: https://docs.docker.com/engine/installation/linux/ubuntulinux/#adjust-memory-and-swap-accounting
[12:49] <Bernzel> EriC^, yes but the idea to have Windows running alongside is to be able to play some games, and those need to be run on the SSD
[12:52] <thisgy> hey guys!
[12:53] <thisgy> I have just installed ubuntu 16.04 and my package system is already messed up. Keeps telling me: Die folgenden Pakete haben unerfüllte Abhängigkeiten:  plymouth-label : Hängt ab von: plymouth (= 0.9.2-3ubuntu13.1) aber 0.9.2-3ubuntu13 soll installiert werden  plymouth-theme-ubuntu-logo : Hängt ab von: plymouth (= 0.9.2-3ubuntu13.1) aber 0.9.2-3ubuntu13 soll installiert werden
[12:53] <thisgy> I have done nothing with plymouth
[12:53] <Lope> I think I misunderstood regarding the linux-image-extra stuff.
[12:53] <thisgy> I would be very happy if someone could help me fix this!
[12:53] <Lope> The extra stuff is loadable modules, not a diff kernel called extra.
[12:55] <\9> thisgy: try sudo apt-get install --fix-broken
[12:57] <thisgy> \9: did not help unfortunately
[12:58] <thisgy>  <\9>: did not work unfortunately. Looks like I am lost here.
[12:58] <thisgy> I cannot really work without fixing this.
[12:58] <Melvin_> Heey, i need to install a few owncloud php modules, is there anyone that can help me with that?
[12:59] <\9> hmm
[12:59] <pesari> thisgy: ensure you have xenial-updates repository enabled and run "apt update"
[13:00] <thisgy>  <\9>: I do not exactly get how this would not be anyodys problem. Plymouth sounds like something everybody has.
[13:00] <\9> plymouth is the on-boot splash screen
 where would I find that?
 could I just get rid of it?
 of maybe install it again if it works
[13:02] <\9> sure but it doesn't sound like the proper solution if your packages are this messed up
[13:02] <pesari> thisgy: try grep xenial-updates -r /etc/apt
 also bluetooth does also not work anymore. Although everything was fine with 14.04. I regret upgrading a lot. Although I thought that a clean install should replace some older workarrounds...
[13:03] <\9> I don't know anything about bluetooth, I've never used it
[13:03] <hateball> Melvin_: what modules?
[13:04] <thisgy>  <pesari>: puts out a bunch of repositories. I assume a have enabled them.
[13:04] <\9> what if you just run sudo apt update?
[13:04] <Melvin_> hateball: i followed this guide and http://tecadmin.net/install-owncloud-on-ubuntu/#comment-2704
 yeah. having it work at all would be more urgent.
[13:04] <\9> you said you just installed it?
 yes
 you recommend to do it again?
[13:05] <\9> oh you did that already?
[13:05] <hugo> o
 no, I only installed it once. But I thought this sould get me a clean install.
[13:05] <hateball> Melvin_: So what is the problem? It seems to be perfectly copy-pastable
 so what would I expect from doing it again?
[13:06] <Melvin_> hateball: i know it looks nie but 1 sec ill send you a pastebin
[13:06] <\9> er, I mean run sudo apt update
[13:06] <\9> if your package info is out of date
[13:06] <Melvin_> http://pastebin.com/F9hEnaQE
[13:06] <Melvin_> hateball: http://pastebin.com/F9hEnaQE
 sais all is up to date
[13:07] <wojtek_> hi there :)
[13:07] <hateball> Melvin_: that guide suggests you add a PPA (which is unsupported here btw), did you do that?
[13:07] <Melvin_> hateball: maybe a little
[13:08] <Melvin_> hateball: how should i have done it otherwise?
[13:08] <hateball> Melvin_: No I am just asking if you did it, since the guide assumes you did
[13:08] <Melvin_> hateball: i did
[13:08] <hateball> Melvin_: And since it's referencing a PPA, I do not really know why it is not working. But perhaps someone else knows
[13:08] <alberto> Hello everyone
[13:09] <stillness> hi
[13:09] <thisgy> hey
[13:09] <stillness> hey guys, I just recovered my system from a initramfs boop problem. Does anyone know how to prevent that from happening again?
[13:09] <Melvin_> hateball: the thing is, ubuntu server 16.04 is using php7. these are the modules for php 5. The big thing is when i go to my localhost/owncloud i get the same php errors on the screen
[13:09] <Melvin_> hateball: same packages
[13:10] <Guest23004> How can I make Firefox route the sound to Jack sound server?
[13:10] <hateball> Melvin_: afaik ownCloud 9.0.1 has fixes for php7, but I may be wrong
[13:10] <Melvin_> hateball: one second ill show you the owncloud messages in a pastebin
[13:10] <hateball> Melvin_: That's a question better answered in #owncloud tho
[13:11] <Guest23004> I'm on Ubuntu 16.04
[13:11] <Melvin_> hateball: they told me go to your distro because you need the packages xD
[13:11] <hateball> Melvin_: And see you already got your answer
[13:11] <hateball> Melvin_: which were in the owncloud admin manual apparently ;)
[13:11] <Melvin_> hateball: but the problem is, wich packages if i'm not using php 5 :)
[13:12] <thisgy> I tried to remove the problematic package plymouth-label and got this: cryptsetup: WARNING: failed to detect canonical device of /dev/sda5 W: plymouth module (/usr/lib/x86_64-linux-gnu/plymouth//.so) missing, skipping that theme.
[13:12] <thisgy> can anybody tell me what that means??
[13:12] <hateball> Melvin_: so look in #owncloud
[13:12] <Melvin_> hateball: thanks hateball :)
[13:13] <hateball> Melvin_: I suggest you ppa-purge before following the advice given there so you don't end up with conflicting packages
[13:14] <nerbellion> Greetings. How to revert operation sudo apt-get install --install-recommends linux-generic-lts-wily xserver-xorg-core-lts-wily xserver-xorg-lts-wily xserver-xorg-video-all-lts-wily xserver-xorg-input-all-lts-wily libwayland-egl1-mesa-lts-wily libgl1-mesa-glx-lts-wily libgl1-mesa-glx-lts-wily:i386 libglapi-mesa-lts-wily:i386? Regards.
[13:14] <nerbellion> OS 14.04.4
[13:16] <OerHeks> nerbellion, how about fresh install ? ]
[13:17] <ashrov> anyone know hobbir or xymon?
[13:17] <ashrov> hobiit
[13:17] <nerbellion> OerHeks>That thing really makes me so sad. Nevertheless, thanks.
[13:19] <stillness> hey guys, I just recovered my system from a initramfs boop problem. Does anyone know how to prevent that from happening again?
[13:22] <EriC^> stillness: sudo update-initramfs -u -k all
[13:22] <EriC^> stillness: then sudo update-grub
[13:23] <EriC^> still might not work, depends on what the problem was, check /etc/fstab and sudo blkid too
[13:27] <Dorf> any idea why youtube videos are no longer playing after the upgrade to 16.04?
[13:28] <Guest79004> i dont have that problem
[13:28] <BluesKaj> Dorf, install the freshplayer from your package manager , it's easier than typing the full name of the package in the terminal
[13:29] <OerHeks> Dorf, maybe hardware driver issues, do you have an  ATI videocard?
[13:29] <Dorf> there are 3 options BluesKaj.  which one is best?
[13:30] <Dorf> it looks like i have pepperflash installed already
[13:30] <Dorf> i do not have an ATI video card.  NVIDIA
[13:31] <arca_vorago> 16.04, cairo-dock. Just did aptg update/upgrade, and when I rebooted it lost my xorg config and the monitors show up in the displays but I can't move them back to where they should be, they seem to be "locked"... any ideas?
[13:31] <BluesKaj> Dorf, hang on let me check
[13:33] <BluesKaj> Dorf, the bowser-plugin-freshplayer-pepperflash
[13:33] <Dorf> that's what i have
[13:35] <stakewinner00> EriC^, using /bin/bash worked, but apt was using a different abi that the system doesn't understand, so i can not reinstall the packages, and i'm reinstalling the SO to fix it...
[13:37] <justxux> arca_vorago,I heard many people have problems with "apt-get", try to use "apt instead"
[13:38] <arca_vorago> wait, so apt-get is being depricated?
[13:39] <BluesKaj> no apt alone is merely a wrapper for apt-get afaik
[13:40] <markdark> I am trying to get the ip address as soon as it is assigned to the machine by dhcp. I thought I add a post-up command to /etc/network/interfaces on eth0, but than the IP is not yet there
[13:40] <markdark> any ideas where I should get the IP as soon as it is assigned?
[13:40] <OerHeks> for now, apt-get and apt live together
[13:42] <arca_vorago> I don't think it's related to that though, I've had a pretty good experience on ubuntu since 15.10, but one consistent problem is it occasionally loses the xorg and then configing it is a pain. Where is 16.04 storing it xorg so I can back it up?
[13:43] <BluesKaj> arca_vorago, here's an explanation , looks like I was mistaken it's quite a step forward http://askubuntu.com/questions/445384/what-is-the-difference-between-apt-and-apt-get
[13:44] <lyze> Hey guys, could somebody help me to completely uninstall grub and fix the windows bootloader?
[13:44] <Ben64> arca_vorago: if you have an xorg.conf, it'd probably be in /etc/X11/xorg.conf
[13:45] <Ben64> lyze: yes, someone in ##windows should be able to help you with that
[13:45] <lyze> Ben64, alright, thanks.
[13:47] <cow_2001> how come `info info` sits here in the nonfree package? http://packages.ubuntu.com/xenial/all/texinfo-doc-nonfree/filelist
[13:47] <cow_2001> that's pretty weird
[13:50] <OerHeks> cow_2001,  Texinfo is not in the public domain; it is copyrighted and there are restrictions on its distribution
[13:51] <cow_2001> it's under the GFDL
[13:51] <cow_2001> no?
[13:53] <cow_2001> OerHeks: ^^^
[13:53] <nok_> guys could somebody help? I want to install Win98SE on an old ass laptop along with some lightweight distro... How do I setup my HDD partitions using GParted for both OSes?
[13:54] <OerHeks> cow_2001, it is, but you referred to texinfo-doc-nonfree, that is texinfo *and* docs
[13:54] <nok_> GParted couldn't detect the partitions the old W98 installer made
[13:55] <cow_2001> OerHeks: i am terribly confused right now. could you explain further?
[13:55] <OerHeks> from debian: non-free archive area contains supplemental packages intended to work with the Debian distribution that do not comply with the DFSG ..
[13:56] <OerHeks> not sure what you want to know ..
[13:58] <cow_2001> OerHeks: i don't understand why is it nonfree
[13:59] <lyze_phone_> Ben64 they cant help ^^
[13:59] <Ben64> they're the only ones who can
[14:00] <lyze_phone_> grubs now messed up and only shows a "minimal bash like line editing" thibg ....
[14:01] <cow_2001> OerHeks: so it originates with debian shenanigans. hmm.. but which part of it doesn't meet DFSG criteria?
[14:01] <sstory> 14.04LTS with LaserJet 4100. Printing from a Java app.  The printer says Default Paper Size:Letter, Tray 2 (Letter). Yet when I print what should be a letter it always wants to print to tray 1. Any thoughts?
[14:01] <cow_2001> oh
[14:01] <cow_2001> i see
[14:01] <cow_2001> https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Debian_Free_Software_Guidelines#GFDL
[14:02] <OerHeks> ah,  content under this license must be separately contained in an additional "non-free" repository which is not officially considered part of Debian.
[14:07] <norech> hi, since i used boot usb of ubuntu 16.4 i cannot reformat the microsd
[14:07] <norech> i had a similar problem
[14:07] <norech> and i solved it with the same application by the erase disk function
[14:07] <norech> but qhen i try that
[14:08] <norech> it says
[14:08] <cow_2001> OerHeks: thank you for your help! :)
[14:08] <norech> org.freedesktop.DBus.Python.gi._glib.GError: Traceback (most recent call last):
[14:08] <norech>   File "/usr/lib/python3/dist-packages/dbus/service.py", line 707, in _message_cb
[14:08] <norech>     retval = candidate_method(self, *args, **keywords)
[14:08] <norech>   File "/usr/share/usb-creator/usb-creator-helper", line 237, in Format
[14:08] <norech>     part.call_set_type_sync('0x0c', no_options, None)
[14:08] <norech> gi._glib.GError: GDBus.Error:org.freedesktop.UDisks2.Error.Failed: Error setting partition flags on /dev/sdb2: Command-line `sfdisk --change-id "/dev/sdb" 2 0x0c' exited with non-zero exit status 1:
[14:08] <OerHeks> cow_2001, your Q made it clear to me to, thanks
[14:14] <norech> mmh with some voodoo
[14:14] <norech> using the disk management tool of gnome
[14:14] <norech> i succeded in erasing all partitions
[14:15] <norech> and unallocate all space and than formatted in fat
[14:27] <lyze_phone_> can somebody help me with grub? http://i.imgur.com/ggRmZcw.jpg   appears when I boot.
[14:32] <OerHeks> lyze_phone_, easy fix is bootrepair https://help.ubuntu.com/community/Boot-Repair
[14:33] <wyre> is there anyway to reinstall apt-get from a cdlive?
[14:33] <wyre> I've mounted /mnt* /proc /sys
[14:33] <wyre> but now I need to reinstall apt-get
[14:33] <lyze_phone_> OerHeks thanks ... will try to get it to work with it again
[14:34] <ducasse> wyre: chroot into your install and use dpkg to install apt-get.
[14:34] <OerHeks> reinstall apt-get, never heard such thing ..
[14:35] <wyre> mmm
[14:35] <wyre> ducasse, which is the way to install with dpkg?
[14:35] <wyre> and where is apt-get.deb?
[14:35] <OerHeks> wyre, what is the reason you need to reinstall apt ??
[14:36] <wyre> fsck has deleted sources.list and apt.conf.d
[14:36] <ducasse> wyre: then fix _that_.
[14:37] <wyre> ducasse, how? xD
[14:38] <ducasse> wyre: restore them from backup.
[14:38] <OerHeks> if fsck deletes those files, what is the condition of your hdd?? see disks > s.m.a.r.t.
[14:41] <Admin__> hey guys.. good day.. very strange problem.. i am running some ffmpeg scripts that capture and segment some videos ... it is a live stream.... why after about 24- 27 hours all of the scripts get killed on my ubuntu system ? then i restart and they again go for 24 hours.. then stop again .. sooooo ODDD!!
[14:42] <wyre> ducasse, from where? /var/cache?
[14:42] <Guest34997> hi all
[14:43] <Guest34997> блять как поменять ник
[14:43] <lyze_phone_> !ru | Guest34997
[14:43] <Guest34997>  /join #ubuntu-r
[14:43] <Guest34997>  /join #ubuntu-ru
[14:45] <Admin__> anyone have a clue ?
[14:46] <davido_> If keepassX and universal access/bounce keys have an interaction bug, who should that be reported to?
[14:46] <ducasse> wyre: if you don't do regular backups you have a bigger problem :) in that case you need to rebuild sources.list manually. see https://repogen.simplylinux.ch/ for example.
[14:48] <aLeSD> i all
[14:49] <aLeSD> is possible to install boost 1.50 in ubuntu 16.04 ?
[14:50] <AndChat|526161> Hello
[14:50] <AndChat|526161> Ubuntu is a nice distro
[14:51] <AndChat|526161> Anyone use fedora
[14:51] <wyre> ducasse, OerHeks can I mount /etc in /mnt/etc?
[14:52] <nacc> AndChat|526161: fedora is offtopic here, i'd say
[14:52] <AndChat|526161> Sorry nacc
[14:52] <AndChat|526161> I apologize for that
[14:52] <Pici> AndChat|526161: I imagine the folks in #fedora use fedora.
[14:52]  * tgm4883 tips fedora, m'lady
[14:52] <AndChat|526161> I see pici
[14:53] <AlexQ> Hi. I wanted to disable screen shutdown when laptop lid closes, so I made a copy of /etc/UPower/UPower.conf and modified the line to ignoreLid=true. Unfortunately, after reboot I got only laptop screen resolutions up to 800x600 (:O), so I reverted to backup copy and rebooted, but, to my surprise, it was still fu**ed up. What should I do? Remove some cache files?
[14:53] <ducasse> wyre: mount the root filesystem somewhere, the copy across what you need.
[14:53] <AndChat|526161> BTW I mainly use ubuntu
[14:54] <ducasse> wyre: *then
[14:54] <AndChat|526161> There are few distros that give u experience like ubuntu
[14:54] <nacc> aLeSD: i think boost is at 1.58 in 16.04?
[14:54] <aLeSD> nacc, yes it is
[14:54] <BluesKaj-ph> Checking phone irc
[14:54] <nacc> AndChat|526161: do you have a support question? general discussion should go to #ubuntu-offtopic
[14:55] <BluesKaj-ph> OK done
[14:55] <tgm4883> Is there some form of "guest-tools" for qemu-kvm guests?
[14:55] <tgm4883> specifically, for windows guests
[14:55] <nacc> tgm4883: what are guest-tools?
[14:55] <nacc> tgm4883: *is
[14:56] <tgm4883> nacc: vm hardware driver support for the guest OS
[14:56] <AndChat|526161> No naac I came here for general chat
[14:56] <tgm4883> nacc: eg. display drivers and such
[14:56] <AndChat|526161> Is this the right channel
[14:56] <k1l> AndChat|526161: for general chat better use #ubuntu-offtopic
[14:56] <wyre> ducasse, do you mean /dev/sda* ¿
[14:56] <AndChat|526161> Ok
[14:57] <ducasse> wyre: i don't know where your root filesystem is, but probably yes.
[14:57] <nacc> tgm4883: does that imply passthru & direct hw access of the devices?
[14:57] <AndChat|526161> BTW kubuntu is same as ubuntu
[14:57] <AndChat|526161> ?
[14:58] <k1l> AndChat|526161: same base, but with kde on top
[14:58] <AndChat|526161> I see
[14:58] <AndChat|526161> BTW its name is funny
[14:59] <wyre> ducasse, and how can I connect my wifi from cli?
[14:59] <wyre> (with network manager) ?
[14:59] <AndChat|526161> Kubuntu, kubuntu, xubuntu lol
[14:59] <Guest45024> lubuntu
[14:59] <tgm4883> nacc: no. virtual machines provide "software" hardware (wth did I just say). for instance, you can add drives as virtio, but your guest OS needs to be able to understand what virtio is to use the drive. Similarly, kvm has a software video card that it provides to the guest OS, but it gets just basic support in the guest OS.
[14:59] <nacc> tgm4883: ah i see what you mean now
[15:00] <tgm4883> (granted, basic support allows most resolutions, but I'd like to see some form of auto-resizing or at least custom resolutions)
[15:00] <nacc> tgm4883: you're asking if kvm has that for windows?
[15:00] <ducasse> wyre: why do you need to do it from the cli? use a live usb, and you can use the gui.
[15:00] <tgm4883> nacc: yea
[15:00] <nacc> aLeSD: I don't think there is an official way to go back 1.50 unfortunately
[15:00] <tgm4883> nacc: trying hard to get rid of vmware-workstation here, would rather not go to virtualbox
[15:01] <ducasse> tgm4883: there are several virtio drivers for windows, for storage, networking etc.
[15:01] <nacc> tgm4883: http://www.linux-kvm.org/page/Guest_Support_Status#Windows_Family
[15:01] <wyre> ducasse, but if I'm connected in muy live? also I'm connected in my root filesystem mounted?
[15:01] <nacc> tgm4883: it would appear that what ducasse is saying is what most people do, virtio drivers installed in the windows guest
[15:02] <wyre> because I get the message that says it cannot be downloaded the package
[15:02] <tgm4883> nacc: ducasse thanks, I'll check those out
[15:02] <ducasse> wyre: of course.
[15:03] <davido_> The gist of the problem is: With Universal Access | Typing | Bounce Keys enabled, KeepassX's hotkey password entry mechanism is thwarted; usernames or passwords that have the same character more than once will be detected as a bounce before being pasted to their target.
[15:05] <davido_> So when one uses the "Autotype Shortcut" from keepassx, if they have bounce keys turned on, odds are good the password will be rejected by the target. However, using clipboard-based copy/paste works.
[15:06] <nacc> davido_: you could start with a bug against keepassx, and it will get re-routed from there, probably
[15:07] <davido_> nacc : I think you're probably right. I don't pretend to know the underlying mechanism, but it seems that keepassx should be able to detect if bouncekey is enabled, and if so, do its password entry a little more slowly. :)
[15:07] <nacc> davido_: right, and if it isn't, maybe the keepassx maintainer(s)/contributor(s) will know how to route it to the access folks
[15:08] <davido_> k, thanks.
[15:10] <davido_> As a final question: Any idea where the Universal | Typing | BounceKey setting is stored?
[15:15] <ryclik> So is the socks4-server package dante or what?
[15:15] <ryclik> installed it but I can't seem to find anything on that
[15:15] <lyze> Hey guys, I've tried to repair grub with the boot-repair-disk. It didn't help. http://paste.ubuntu.com/16708159/
[15:15] <nacc> davido_: would be guessing but mabye ~/.config or ~/.local
[15:16] <nacc> ryclik: 'dante' ?
[15:16] <camroncade> morning'
[15:17] <nacc> ryclik: what were you looking for? it installs rsockd and sockd binaries
[15:17] <ryclik> nacc: Yeah, it's a socks server. There's another package for it in apt. Then theres the one I just installed called "socks4-server", but I can't seem to find the name of whichever socks server it is lol
[15:17] <AlexQ> Guys, please help... I wanted to disable screen shutdown when laptop lid closes, so I made a copy of /etc/UPower/UPower.conf and modified the line to ignoreLid=true. Unfortunately, after reboot I got only laptop screen resolutions up to 800x600 (:O), so I reverted to backup copy and rebooted, but, to my surprise, it was still fu**ed up. What should I do? Remove some cache files?
[15:18] <nacc> ryclik: oh i see there's dante-server as well?
[15:18] <ryclik> nacc: Right, so I guess it's just generic?
[15:18] <ryclik> Yeah
[15:18] <nacc> ryclik: sorry, what's your question? it appears to be two distinct packages with distinct implementations
[15:18] <DirtyCajun> AlexQ, why did you do upower?
[15:18] <ryclik> The question is, what implementation is socks4-server?
[15:18] <DirtyCajun> i would go through /etc/systemd/logind.conf
[15:19] <DirtyCajun> and HandleLidSwitch=ignore
[15:19] <AlexQ> DirtyCajun: I did not change anything there, in /etc/system/logind.conf. I think I found some outdated info somewhere on the interwebs.
[15:19] <ducasse> ryclik: the package description says which implementation it is.
[15:20] <DirtyCajun> AlexQ, you are using desktop so it might not allow use of logind.conf. but i just checked on my laptop with ubuntu server and it worked for me
[15:20] <ducasse> ryclik: "It is based on the original SOCKS written by David Koblas"
[15:20] <lyze> OerHeks:  Ran the boot repair disk and I still get that minimal bash thing. http://paste.ubuntu.com/16708159/
[15:20] <ryclik> ducasse: ah how did you get that info?
[15:20] <AlexQ> DirtyCajun: Okay, but that is not my problem atm. I want to be able to use proper, native resolution
[15:20] <nacc> ryclik: probably `apt-cache show <pgkname>`
[15:21] <ducasse> ryclik: 'apt show packagename'
[15:21] <DirtyCajun> AlexQ, but one is a result of the other is it not? Check your grub and see if it modified to specify 800x600
[15:21] <ryclik> I didn't know that one existed. Useful thanks :)
[15:22] <DirtyCajun> AlexQ /etc/default/grub and check your "GRUB_GFXMODE and GRUB_CMDLINE_LINUX_DEFAULT"
[15:25] <AlexQ> DirtyCajun: first commented out, second just set to "quiet splash"
[15:26] <regum> hi
[15:26] <regum> I have a problem with an ongoing process
[15:26] <regum> I was logged in via ssh and started gparted to format a drive
[15:27] <DirtyCajun> AlexQ interesting. lemme do some research
[15:27] <regum> my lapton entered suspension and the ssh session logged off, how can I go back to gparted?
[15:27] <regum> I can't run it again, it's still running
[15:27] <regum> I just want to reopen the window so to speak
[15:27] <regum> to see how it's going
[15:30] <nacc> regum: that's not really how things work, aiui. More than likely the controlling tty for the gparted process has been disconnected. YOu probably want to run things in tmux or screen in the future, if disconnects are likely ...
[15:31] <regum> nacc, so I can't get back to it? will it run forever? How can i know when it's finished formatting the drive?
[15:31] <AlexQ> DirtyCajun: I think that something got fuc**d up (maybe these screen modes?) when I rebooted with that ignoreLid in UPower.conf enabled, and it did not get fixed when I set that back to false and rebooted. I recall there are some files that e.g. xrandr creates? Maybe that should be reset?
[15:31] <ducasse> regum: formatting typically takes seconds.
[15:32] <nacc> regum: was the to-be-formatted drive something important?
[15:32] <nacc> regum: my concern is it might be waiting for input or something
[15:32] <RR_> hello. I have joined the ubuntu forum (http://ubuntuforums.org/) today. My current permissions are: You may not post new threads - You may not post replies - You may not post attachments - You may not edit your posts (sigh); when will I be allowed to post?
[15:32] <regum> nacc ducasse it was about 300GB
[15:32] <digitalmouse> greetings, programs!
[15:33] <ducasse> regum: it takes seconds to format a 6TB drive, even. i have one.
[15:33] <regum> duccasse, it's a slow machine, it took 10 minutes to format a 150GB drive
[15:34] <ducasse> regum: which filesystem?
[15:34] <regum> ducasse, from ntfs to ext4
[15:36] <DirtyCajun> AlexQ, to check just type xrandr into terminal
[15:36] <DirtyCajun> it should list all possible resolutions
[15:36] <DirtyCajun> with "min current and max"
[15:37] <AlexQ> DirtyCajun: I did just that, it seems that there are more than "Display" settings in Xubuntu show. That's kinda strange
[15:37] <ducasse> regum: that sounds odd. are you sure the disk is ok? ext4 formatting doesn't write to every sector, it just writes some metadata afaik. anyway, just format again, no harm done.
[15:37] <regum> ducasse, So I can safely kill the gparted process?
[15:37] <AlexQ> DirtyCajun: Okay, nevermind, it seems to have resolved itself now. Very strange indeed
[15:37] <DirtyCajun> haha! win regardless!
[15:38] <AlexQ> DirtyCajun: But if you know, could you please tell me how to properly set up HDMI modes?
[15:38] <ducasse> regum: sure, just start a new one. if you do it over ssh, use tmux or screen.
[15:39] <regum> ducasse, thanks, I'll look into that
[15:39] <DirtyCajun> AlexQ, xrandr --output LVDS --mode 1920x1080 (replace your output with the name of yours)
[15:39] <Dorf> BluesKaj: I got the problem fixed from before.  it was a video driver issue
[15:39] <Dorf> now, i know that php 5.6 isn't "officially" supported on 16.04, but can i downgrade the CLI php version to 5.6?
[15:40] <DirtyCajun> xrandr doesnt have a configuration file tho so this wont be persistent
[15:41] <ducasse> regum: also use something like fdisk or gdisk to partition, and make the filesystem from the shell. if you do that in tmux. the process will continue to run even if the connection goes down.
[15:42] <AlexQ> DirtyCajun: The issue is that xrandr or Display settings etc. list some modes, but there are lacking. There is only 1920x1080p24, but there are no 1920x1080p50/60
[15:42] <ducasse> regum: and you can reattach to it later.
[15:42] <AlexQ> DirtyCajun: Obviously, these modes are correctly supported out-of-box on Win10 on the same laptop with the same TV
[15:42] <DirtyCajun> AlexQ check to see what drivers your device is using.
[15:42] <regum> ducasse, thanks! I've got a lot of learning to do
[15:43] <DirtyCajun> If needed reinstall the OpenGL drivers
[15:43] <AlexQ> DirtyCajun: But another FullHD screen works flawlessly with all modes supported
[15:43] <regum> Thank you! I've got to go now!
[15:45] <AlexQ> DirtyCajun: I managed to add 1080p50/60 manually with cvt and xrandr for that screen manually, and it was working and indeed progressive, but there was some strange issue: is was slightly out of focus, as if it wasn't exactly pixel to pixel, though the size seemed fine (didn't do 1 pixel width border check)
[15:46] <Dorf> never mind.  if anyone else has the same issue, here's a link to the answer
[15:46] <Dorf> http://askubuntu.com/questions/761713/how-can-i-downgrade-from-php-7-to-php-5-6-on-ubuntu-16-04
[15:47] <computer> people, i have an external HDD (was internal) that says it is likely to fail soon, what should i do to fix it?
[15:47] <DirtyCajun> AlexQ thats very odd. something isnt talking appropriately and thats past my knowledge unfortunately
[15:47] <mcphail> computer: buy a new one
[15:47] <somsip> computer: back it up, replace it
[15:47] <nacc> Dorf: doing any of those options puts you in unsupported territory, just to be clear
[15:47] <Dorf> understood
[15:48] <Dorf> but i was a bad boy and didn't read the docs before upgrading
[15:48] <nacc> Dorf: if you really need php5, and are running 16.04, i would recommend running trusty in a VM or container
[15:48] <Dorf> as a drupal dev supporting d7 not having 5.6 is not an option, but the ability to switch between versions relatively easily is nice
[15:49] <computer> mcphail: somsip i already got a new one and back it up, but i see throwing away a 500GB HDD a waste, so is there anyway i can resue it or so anything useful wth it?
[15:49] <nacc> Dorf: drupal7 upstream has pushed php7 support, as has debian, we're moving to that version shortly
[15:49] <DArqueBishop> computer: if it's saying it's going to fail soon, it can't be trusted. It's a lost cause, so have it recycled.
[15:49] <nacc> Dorf: in 16.04, that is
[15:49] <mcphail> computer: it's your data. Do what you like, but don't say it didn't warn you
[15:50] <nacc> Dorf: LP: #1582340
[15:50] <Dorf> thanks nacc.  i'll be updating core to that, but my host only uses 5.6 so i have to try and keep versions consistent to avoid WSOD or other issues.
[15:50] <nacc> Dorf: ack
[15:50] <computer> DArqueBishop: mcphail it would be a shame, anyway how can i recycle it? what can i do with it, by the way i have 2x 500 GB HDD that are failing
[15:50] <Dorf> thank you for your hard work on that nacc.  it is definitely appreciated!
[15:51] <nacc> Dorf: np, luckily gunnar did most of the stuff upstream (debian) :)
[15:51] <Dorf> side note:  the host was chosen by the client... otherwise i'd be upgrading today!
[15:51] <mcphail> computer: no ide about recycling, and not really on topic here. Perhaps ask in ##hardware ?
[15:52] <computer> mcphail: thanks
[15:52] <mcphail> computer: sorry I can't be more helpful, but it is a lost cause
[15:53] <computer> mcphail: i agree, thanks :-)
[15:53] <AlexQ> DirtyCajun: I think I need to tweak these CVT values somehow
[15:54] <AlexQ> DirtyCajun: I don't think that there is any overscan compensation enabled or sth.
[15:54] <AlexQ> DirtyCajun: You think I should as at #Xorg or where?
[15:59] <Dorf> bad interpreter: /usr/bin/ruby2.1: no such file or directory is this a known issue?  affects jekyll, compass, and sass
[16:07] <nacc> Dorf: how to reproduce?
[16:07] <ash_workz> how do I check where nodejs installs from when I do `sudo apt install --reinstall nodejs` ?
[16:07] <Dorf> compass compile
[16:07] <Dorf> jekyll build
[16:08] <Dorf> sass compile
[16:08] <kallo82> Hello , how do i install AMD firepro drivers on ubuntu 16.04 ?
[16:08] <nacc> Dorf: sorry, all foreign to me :) these are source builds of something?
[16:08] <Dorf> yes.  compilers that are built on ruby
[16:08] <nacc> ash_workz: '--reinstall' not really relevant, but `apt-file list <pkgname>` will help
[16:09] <xangua> kallo82: www.omgubuntu.co.uk/2016/03/ubuntu-drops-amd-catalyst-fglrx-driver-16-04
[16:09] <nacc> Dorf: 16.04? ruby2.3 not ruby2.1
[16:09] <OerHeks> kallo82, not. wait for xorg 1.8
[16:12] <ash_workz> nacc: interesting utility; I guess it doesn't come with ubuntu 14.04
[16:12] <nacc> ash_workz: you might need to install apt-file
[16:12] <nacc> ash_workz: it's been around for a while
[16:12] <ash_workz> I did
[16:12] <Dorf> hrm.... can't find where i change that setting
[16:12] <nacc> ash_workz: alternatively `dpkg -L <pkgname>` will be there by default
[16:13] <ash_workz> nacc: yeah; so I guess this nodesource repo is still here even though I was sure I deleted it yesterday...
[16:13] <nacc> Dorf: i'm guessing what's happening is something is doing #!/usr/bin/ruby2.1 or #!/usr/bin/env ruby2.1
[16:13] <kallo82> OerHeks, ty for your reply, do you know when is the xorg new version will be released ?
[16:13] <Dorf> yeah.  i just don't know where that is defined
[16:14] <ash_workz> where are deb links held again?
[16:14] <ash_workz>  /etc/...list.d/ or something?
[16:14] <nacc> Dorf: might be able to grep the source
[16:14] <OerHeks> kallo82, nope, i hope with 16.04.1 but it might be too soon for this LTS release
[16:14] <nacc> ash_workz: is that a ppa?
[16:14] <nacc> ash_workz: 'nodesource repo'
[16:14] <ash_workz> nacc: I am unclear on the terminology
[16:15] <nacc> !ppa | ash_workz
[16:15] <nacc> ash_workz: if it is a ppa, you should use !ppa-purge
[16:15] <ash_workz> theres a deb link that says something like http://deb.nodesource.com_node%5f4.x_dists_trusty...
[16:16] <derangedyeti> anyone know where the file is that ufw edits on 14.04?
[16:16] <nacc> ash_workz: that's not a ppa, as ppas are hosted by launchpad
[16:17] <ash_workz> nacc: I thought it might not be a ppa
[16:17] <OerHeks> ash_workz, ls -la /etc/apt/sources.list.d/
[16:17] <ash_workz> ah yes, /etc/apt/sources.list.d/ was the dir I was looking for
[16:18] <ash_workz> indeed, it is back from yesterday
[16:18] <ash_workz> I guess something reinstalled it>?
[16:20] <camroncade> hey, my custom xsession is starting "gnome-session --session=ubuntu" and "unity" but I'm not getting the menubar at the top of the screen.
[16:20] <camroncade> any ideas as to why?
[16:20] <OerHeks> i think /var/log/dpkg.log would tell
[16:21] <nacc> ash_workz: something reinstalled a /etc/apt/sources.list.d entry? that seems odd
[16:21] <ash_workz> nacc: I remember deleting it yesterday
[16:21] <nacc> ash_workz: removing a package doesn't remove the sources.list entry, did you do that manually?
[16:21] <ash_workz> nacc: yes
[16:21] <ash_workz> nacc: at the behest of the advice of a lot of people in here :P
[16:22] <OerHeks> oh, nice to come back for support, lolz .. we love ppa troubles
[16:22] <minimec> camroncade: Try to reset your unity configuration. Look here http://askubuntu.com/questions/17610/how-do-i-reset-my-unity-configuration
[16:22] <nacc> ash_workz: unless a package you are installing happens to also put in such a source.list, it seems unlikely -- very strange, regardless
[16:23] <OerHeks> ash_workz, add the ppa again, and remove it properly
[16:24] <OerHeks> without that list, no app will be updated from that list. and it does not add the list back in
[16:24] <ash_workz> OerHeks: ...
[16:25] <derangedyeti> anyone every mess with ufw config files here?
[16:25] <ash_workz> OerHeks: tbh, I don't remember how I added the "ppa" (not really a ppa?) in the first place
[16:26] <camroncade> thanks minimec, I'll take a look at it
[16:26] <lotuspsychje> !ufw | derangedyeti
[16:26] <OerHeks> ash_workz, i find this https://nodesource.com/blog/chris-lea-joins-forces-with-nodesource/ that leads to https://launchpad.net/~chris-lea/+archive/ubuntu/node.js
[16:27] <ash_workz> OerHeks: what I've derived from my situation is I probably thought nodesource was an official distro for node and probably followed instructions in the readme on github, but that has likely changed since my version number does not reflect whats in the documentation
[16:27] <OerHeks> oh https://github.com/nodesource/distributions#debinstall
[16:28] <OerHeks> no de-install instructions on their page
[16:29] <ash_workz> OerHeks: yeah, my file says node_4 so I assume I followed the node 4.x instructions
[16:29] <ash_workz> node.js*
[16:29] <ash_workz> so... suggestions?
[16:30] <ash_workz> shall I delete those files (I guess again)?
[16:30] <OerHeks> i would have added the ppa, to obtain updates too.
[16:30]  * nacc cites "don't do things as root unless you 100% know what you are doing and how to undo them" and walks away
[16:30] <ash_workz> the deb link files?
[16:30] <ash_workz> nacc: does "sudo" constitute "as root" by your definition?
[16:31] <nacc> ash_workz: yes
[16:31]  * ash_workz redefines sudo in his mind
[16:31] <nacc> ash_workz: root == superuser and cf. `man sudo`
[16:32] <glass> if i flash dd-wrt on my router (it is compatible) and (if) flash goes well, will my other devices in house add themselves after i update the password and wifi name?
[16:32] <ash_workz> nacc: I know, I meant specifically within the context of your citation
[16:32] <ash_workz> glass: ##networking ?
[16:32] <glass> thanks ash-workz
[16:33] <nacc> ash_workz: sure, but to be clear, sudo (without passing a username) is allowing your user (presuming it has been granted privilege to do so) to run things as root. That's definitionally what sudo is
[16:33] <ash_workz> nacc: roger that.
[16:33] <ash_workz> any suggestions me my node predicatment?
[16:33] <derjur> http://askubuntu.com/questions/771942/logitech-mouse-appearing-incorrectly
[16:33] <derjur> anyone have any ideas on that?
[16:34] <derjur> seems no one wants to answer it on that site :)
[16:35] <derangedyeti> lotuspsychje: Yeah I've read through that entire doc but there just isn't an iptables.conf on my system, I did a system-wide grep and nothing
[16:35] <nacc> derjur: have you tried using xinput to disable the one you don't want (`man xinput`)
[16:35] <ash_workz> derangedyeti: `find` might serve you better?
[16:36] <derangedyeti> I've tried that as well, sudo find / -name iptables.conf returns nothing
[16:36] <proudbyte> hey guys anyone with experienced with xdebug?
[16:36] <nacc> proudbyte: the php extension?
[16:37] <Paddy_NI> I have installed "ubuntu-desktop" on an Ubuntu MATE 16.04 installation and have run "sudo dpkg-reconfigure ubuntu-desktop" to which nothing happens only to be left with an Ubuntu Unity session that has no panel, desktop, dash or launcher.. Can anyone help?
[16:37] <proudbyte> compiled installed and running
[16:37] <ash_workz> OerHeks: I guess I could read through the setup instructions... I think there's a 4.x setup file that runs.... but I don't think to does anything but find the right package to install
[16:37] <ash_workz> OerHeks: perhaps I should do `sudo apt remove nodejs` ?
[16:37] <ash_workz> and then remove the ppa
[16:38] <ash_workz> and start over from the nodejs website for installation
[16:38] <proudbyte> nacc I can't establish a connection to remote server... using phpstorm
[16:38] <nacc> proudbyte: i don't know what phpstorm is, is it an ubuntu package?
[16:38] <proudbyte> nacc I'm using remote interpreter
[16:38] <proudbyte> no it's an IDE
[16:39] <nacc> proudbyte: probably contact the phpstorm folks then?
[16:39] <proudbyte> nacc it's an ide from jetbrains
[16:39] <jkr_> ha die OerHeks :o)
[16:39] <jkr_> hoe gaat ie?
[16:39] <proudbyte> well I just want to get sure that my xdebug it is well configured
[16:40] <nacc> proudbyte: is this the xdebug package from ubuntu?
[16:40] <nacc> proudbyte: *php-xdebug
[16:40] <proudbyte> yes
[16:40] <derangedyeti> ash_workz: Turns out it was in /lib/ufw/user.rules
[16:40] <derangedyeti> how unintuitive
[16:40] <derjur> nacc: i have not!
[16:40] <derjur> but i'll try that
[16:40] <proudbyte> nacc yes and no
[16:40] <nacc> derjur: dunno if it will work given the double mouse situation, but worth trying
[16:40] <nacc> proudbyte: what version of ubuntu?
[16:40] <ash_workz> derangedyeti: was `find` responsible for you determining htat?
[16:41] <ash_workz> that*
[16:41] <nacc> proudbyte: and what does 'yes and no' mean in this context?
[16:41] <proudbyte> nacc I've installed the default provided by apt-get and latter without positive results compiled from xdebug source but the result is the same... basically!
[16:41] <derjur> made my mouse disappear... :(
[16:42] <nacc> derjur: did you check to see if by any chance one of the two listed mice was disabled already? (and now needs to be enabled)?
[16:42] <proudbyte> can debug anything so i suspect that I'm doing something wrong here...
[16:42] <proudbyte> *nacc "can't" debug anything so i suspect that I'm doing something wrong here...
[16:42] <nacc> proudbyte: what version of ubuntu?
[16:42] <proudbyte> 14.04
[16:43] <derjur> hmmm... i'll give it a try
[16:44] <derangedyeti> ash_workz: nah, because it was in a file called user.rules
[16:44] <ash_workz> derangedyeti: darn, I was hoping I was being helpful :P
[16:44] <derangedyeti> ash_workz: Its okay :P I had been in that files before but I realized that i wasn't in my /mnt/tempvol
[16:45] <nacc> proudbyte: i unfortunately don't know much about xdebug itself or what exactly you are trying to do. If the IDE you are using is having trouble, I'd contact the IDE support list. If you're not getting any debug even when running a script manually, then i'd look at hte xdebug online documentation, and make sure the extension has been enabled (php5enmod)
[16:45] <derangedyeti> ash_workz: I'm performing maintenance on a system im locked out of due to iptables
[16:46] <ash_workz> derangedyeti: glad you found it. Though I would not be the person to ask if you had a problem with any of that :\
[16:49] <ash_workz> so I was surprised that after I removed those soure list files, `sudo apt-get install nodejs` was functional. `dpkg -l nodejs` shows I still have conf files and the version is  `4.4.5-1nodesource1~trusty1` -- I guess I need to restart?
[16:51] <OerHeks> ash_workz, with purge those conf would be gone too
[16:51] <OerHeks> and you did stop the service befoer deleting?
[16:52] <OerHeks> c/before
[16:52] <ash_workz> ...
[16:52] <OerHeks> then yes, reboot :-D
[16:52] <ash_workz> before `sudo apt-get purge` ?
[16:54] <ash_workz> OerHeks: ^ ?
[16:54] <proudbyte> nacc I'm using php7
[16:54] <OerHeks> ash_workz, purge would be an option to remove, to late for that now i think
[16:55] <tebo> hello people
[16:55] <ash_workz> OerHeks: well, I don't want those deb files showing up again, right?
[16:55] <ducasse> OerHeks, ash_workz: you can still use dpkg -P
[16:56] <ash_workz> OerHeks: and the fact that apt-get install nodejs will actually attempt to install something makes me think that there's a possibility of that happening
[16:56] <tebo> sooo, i installed this ubuntu when I didnt have internet access. now I just tried to do a vpn command that worked fine on the other comp with same linux cd....does it generally break things when you install without internet access?
[16:56] <tebo> imma try to reinstall it now that I have access anyways just thought id ask
[16:58] <OerHeks> ash_workz, sudo apt-get autoclean will clean up
[16:58] <OerHeks> also kernels
[16:58] <ash_workz> OerHeks: geez... I really don't understand how things work (clearly); I did `apt-get remove nodejs` and it went through a process and then `dpkg -l nodejs` showed `rc` so I thought, well it's removed but there are conf files
[16:58] <OerHeks> yes, conf files stay without --purge
[16:58] <ash_workz> OerHeks: I just did `apt-get purge nodejs` and it said: The following packages will be REMOVED: nodejs
[16:59] <ash_workz> OerHeks: which was weird to me because I was like, "wasn't it already removed?"
[16:59] <OerHeks> but i answered how to get rid of that deb package.
[16:59] <ash_workz> OerHeks: are you referring to apt-get autoclean?
[17:00] <OerHeks> yes
[17:00] <ash_workz> k, should I still run that despite my apt-get purge?
[17:00] <OerHeks> no, after that ..
[17:01] <ash_workz> OerHeks: also, each time I an apt-get I get The following package was automatically installed and is no longer required:  rlwrap Use 'apt-get autoremove' to remove it. -- should I run that now?
[17:01] <ash_workz> s/I an/I run
[17:02] <OerHeks> no, autoremove only removes packages not installed and needed. linux keeps the package to re-install, so those won't be removed
[17:03] <ash_workz> I think I understand that
[17:03] <ash_workz> in any case; still autoclean?
[17:03] <ash_workz> and then restart I guess.
[17:03] <OerHeks> to remove those old debs from 3th party sources, yes
[17:04] <ash_workz> awesome
[17:04] <ash_workz> brb
[17:19] <RabbitD> am i here
[17:23] <tb> hi
[17:24] <nacc> proudbyte: then you're using a ppa if you're on 14.04, please contact your ppa provider
[17:27] <ash_workz> so apt-get still seems to be able to install nodejs which again, surprises me
[17:27] <ash_workz> dpkg -l nodejs lists: `un nodejs   <none>   <none>   (no description available)`
[17:27] <ash_workz> I don't understand how it could know where to install from
[17:27] <Guest66392> j/reload
[17:28] <ash_workz> the nodesource files in /etc/apt/sources.list.d are gone at least
[17:28] <nacc> ash_workz: what version of ubuntu?
[17:28] <ash_workz> nacc: 14.04
[17:29] <nacc> ash_workz: also `apt-cache policy nodejs` will tell you
[17:30] <ash_workz> nacc: yeah, looks like it'll maybe attempt from ubuntu
[17:30] <ash_workz> nacc: https://gist.github.com/anonymous/6d403d3c14f1e60fc3719af96a5593d6
[17:30] <ash_workz> nacc: I just thought it would tell me that's not possible before asking "Are you sure you want to install?"
[17:30] <ash_workz> but nodejs isn't on `http://archive.ubuntu.com/ubuntu/ trusty/universe amd64 Packages` is it?
[17:31] <ash_workz> nacc: maybe I need to update first :P
[17:31] <nacc> ash_workz: sure it is
[17:31] <nacc> !info nodejs trusty
[17:31] <nacc> ash_workz: but yes, always `apt-get update` first
[17:31] <ash_workz> oh, wtf. Why the hell would I be trying to install the nodesource repo then? >.<
[17:31] <nacc> ash_workz: with caveats about running back-to-back updates, etc.
[17:32] <nacc> ash_workz: no idea.
[17:32] <nacc> :)
[17:32] <nacc> ash_workz: maybe you looked for 'node' and not 'nodejs'
[17:32] <ash_workz> usually, i default to apt-get something... and unless it isn't there then I'll jump on the website
[17:33] <Guest14306> yikes
[17:33] <Karaxen> hello
[17:34] <Karaxen> anyone here?
[17:37] <proudbyte> nacc
[17:37] <proudbyte> nacc I made it
[17:37] <nacc> proudbyte: you mean you built your own php7 from source?
[17:38] <nacc> that's even *less* supported here than ondrej's ppa :)
[17:38] <anonymous_> he
[17:38] <anonymous_> my hking
[17:38] <anonymous_> in arab
[17:38] <proudbyte> nacc no no I've solved the problem was my mac firewall all of the time :( all xdebug configuration on the server was ok and the IDE too ...
[17:39] <anonymous_> 1001011110111101100011011010111110000010100010001001010101010001011010101001010101001
[17:39] <proudbyte> nacc just disabled firewall
[17:39] <proudbyte> nacc thank you for your support
[17:40] <OerHeks> does ubuntu read 8" floppy disks, anonymous_  ?
[17:40] <ash_workz> nacc: any idea why they recommend deb.nodesource.com for on nodejs.org? (vs just apt-get install) Ubuntu https://nodejs.org/en/download/package-manager/#debian-and-ubuntu-based-linux-distributions
[17:40] <anonymous_> 11010100101010101010101010101010010101001010010101111111111111111000000000000110112101211111111101*01010101010101
[17:41] <anonymous_> ^01010111
[17:41] <ducasse> anonymous_: go play elsewhere.
[17:41] <ash_workz> s/(for) (on.*)(Ubuntu)/\1 \3 \2
[17:42] <nacc> ash_workz: no idea, i'd ask them :)
[17:42] <nacc> ash_workz: they probably want you to use their version, not ubuntu's
[17:42] <nacc> ash_workz: it's about who supports hwat
[17:42] <nacc> ash_workz: if i had to guess
[17:42] <jiffe> so whatever happened to eth0?  in 16.04 I'm now seeing enp6s0f0
[17:42] <ash_workz> nacc: I see
[17:43] <anonymous_> asme almjhool
[17:43] <nacc> jiffe: read about persistent naming, iirc
[17:43] <OerHeks> predictable network interface naming
[17:45] <anonymous_> no
[17:45] <anonymous_> hhhhhhhhhhhhhhhhhhhhhhhhhhhhhhhhhhhhhhhhhhhhhhhhhhhhhhhhhhhhhhhhhhhhhhhhhhhhhhhhhhhhhhhhhhhh
[17:45] <nacc> OerHeks: thanks :)
[17:45] <fabregas88> Hi i'm using ubuntu 15.10 and i'm trying to change the ulimit
[17:46] <fabregas88> i've added the following lines to the file /etc/security/limits.conf
[17:46] <fabregas88> root soft  nofile 40000
[17:46] <fabregas88> root hard  nofile 40000
[17:46] <fabregas88> and also the following line to /etc/pam.d/common-session
[17:46] <fabregas88> session required pam_limits.so
[17:47] <fabregas88> when i run ulimit -n to check if it has changed i still have the same output 1024
[17:48] <fabregas88> do i have to do something else?
[17:50] <OerHeks> fabregas88, Check sysctl file-max limit: cat /proc/sys/fs/file-max http://stackoverflow.com/questions/21515463/how-to-increase-maximum-file-open-limit-ulimit-in-ubuntu
[17:52] <fabregas88> OerHeks: yes the file-max limit is 6024074 bigger than the 40000 i'm trying to change. i'll check the link you sent me and let you know. thanks :)
[17:53] <computer> people, i have a HDD with 270 bad sectors, is this ok? should i change it?
[17:53] <OerHeks> fabregas88, you might want to check out #ubuntu-server too.
[17:53] <OerHeks> bad sectors grow, so yes.
[17:54] <mcphail> computer: haven't you already asked about this?
[17:54] <OerHeks> put those 2x500 gb in front of the subway station, and run away.
[17:55] <computer> mcphail: the other HDD failed completely, this one seems ok, but i cannot tell is 270 bad sectors is bad or not
[17:57] <ducasse> computer: *of course* it is bad.
[17:59] <computer> ducasse: hmmm :-(
[18:00] <ducasse> computer: there's a reason they're called "bad sectors" :)
[18:02] <x64_Trusty_YMMV> hi all. nice to be here again. 14.04 64bit, gnome, xsane... some scan attempts produce: xhci_hcd 0000:00:14.0: WARN Event TRB for slot 3 ep 2 with no TDs queued?
[18:03] <m3n3chm0> dear all guys, i'm using Xubuntu and I'm realized that in VLC it is not working the screenshots function ... any clue ¿?
[18:04] <m3n3chm0> i'm using VLC 2.2.1
[18:05] <OerHeks> m3n3chm0, even if you pauze vlc ?
[18:05] <m3n3chm0> even yes... it is already in pause mode then I press the button in Video-scanpshot
[18:05] <m3n3chm0> but the picture is not saved in any folder
[18:05] <m3n3chm0> I've checked the path...there is nothing :(
[18:06] <x64_Trusty_YMMV> are you using a hotkey for the screenshot; if so is that hotkey assigned elsewhere?
[18:06] <m3n3chm0> I've delete the .config folder for vlc ..restore settings and still nothing :(
[18:06] <m3n3chm0> nope... I use the GUI button
[18:06] <m3n3chm0> Video-Screen capture in the GUI
[18:09] <m3n3chm0> x64_Trusty_YMMV OerHeks  look:
[18:09] <m3n3chm0> It also depends on the format of the video. I can take a snapshot of a plain avi capture but cannot do it with a movie mp4.
[18:09] <m3n3chm0> i read this on google right now...
[18:09] <m3n3chm0> mmm my videos are taken from Gopro... they are in mp4 indeed
[18:09] <m3n3chm0> that the reason why it is not working ¿????
[18:09] <m3n3chm0> :O
[18:10] <x64_Trusty_YMMV> m3: hotkey might be workaround? shift-s on the keyboard
[18:10] <gascon84> hi
[18:10] <m3n3chm0> x64_Trusty_YMMV nope... only works on avi... not mp4 or mkv..
[18:10] <tb> hey
[18:11] <gascon84> I have the weirdest problem with Ubuntu 16.04. Wifi works fine but Ethernet won't connect.
[18:11] <gascon84> I was hoping anybody could help... I've read everything on the web...
[18:11] <Guest90178> tbalthazar: there?
[18:11] <ziggy_> try another cable.
[18:12] <m3n3chm0> no worries..i'll ise shutter instead of..
[18:12] <gascon84> I did, ziggy
[18:12] <gascon84> thanks
[18:12] <m3n3chm0> thanks x64_Trusty_YMMV Oatmeal
[18:12] <x64_Trusty_YMMV> m3: i'm not familiar with xubuntu. is the target folder valid at the time and does the user running vlc have permissions to create and modify files to that folder?
[18:13] <x64_Trusty_YMMV> m3: i'm successfully taking snapshots from a .mkv file in vlc 2.1.6
[18:14] <Guest90178> tbalthazar: there?
[18:14] <m3n3chm0> x64_Trusty_YMMV mmmm can you please try from an .mp4 file ¿? pleaseee
[18:15] <m3n3chm0> x64_Trusty_YMMV yes...the path folder it is in my home so vlc should write there of course
[18:16] <x64_Trusty_YMMV> m3: no problem making snapshots from mp4 (Codec: H264 - MPEG-4 AVC (part 10) (avc1))
[18:16] <seto> ok question here im on kubuntu 16.04 trying to install the intel vulkan api enabled drivers
[18:17] <seto> and they say to add lines to xorg.conf or xorg.conf.d
[18:17] <seto> but um i have no such file lol
[18:17] <gabi_96> Hi. Few weeks ago, I asked for a solution to the "Error parsing PCC subspaces form PCCT" boot error. Someone said to disable fast boot on W10 (already did that). Now, i found that, if i use the Xorg driver, I do not encounter the error anymore. It appears only with nVidia proprietary driver GM108M. But, with Xorg driver, my primary GPU is intel on-board. How can i select nVidia as primary gpu? Also, i think there is a bug with that GM108M driver. I run ubun
[18:17] <gabi_96> tu 16.04 LTS
[18:17] <m3n3chm0> x64_Trusty_YMMV Códec: H264 - MPEG-4 AVC (part 10) (avc1)
[18:17] <m3n3chm0> that's my video file in mp4
[18:17] <m3n3chm0> mmmm x64_Trusty_YMMV thanks for the help
[18:17] <seto> do i just create the file?
[18:17] <m3n3chm0> i'm gonna try to purge and reinstall vlc then...
[18:18] <x64_Trusty_YMMV> np. might want to try running vlc as root. not sure how to do that on xubuntu
[18:18] <OerHeks> seto, what guide are you following?
[18:18] <x64_Trusty_YMMV> m3: and have a look if there's anything interesting in dmesg
[18:18] <seto> all of the ones im finding say the same thing
[18:19] <seto> this is the one i have open at the moment for ubuntu
[18:19] <seto> https://www.phoronix.com/scan.php?page=news_item&px=Ubuntu-16.04-Enable-DRI3
[18:19] <m3n3chm0> ok go to search on dmesg :)
[18:19] <x64_Trusty_YMMV> m3: open a terminal session and run command: dmesg
[18:20] <seto> i know where the file is suppose to be but it is not there
[18:20] <x64_Trusty_YMMV> m3: look to see if there's anything interesting in the output. do NOT post any of it here unless asked
[18:21] <m3n3chm0> x64_Trusty_YMMV no problem, there is nothing wrong in Dmesg about vlc...
[18:22] <seto> yeesh some damn web page was leaking mem like freaking mad
[18:22] <x64_Trusty_YMMV> m3: did you try the hotkey? (shift-s) in vlc?
[18:22] <OerHeks> seto, standard there is no /etc/X11/xorg.conf indeed, but still you can make one that rules over auto detection
[18:23] <seto> that was my thinking as well
[18:23] <seto> so basically just paste the lines save as and done
[18:23] <OerHeks> jups
[18:27] <x64_Trusty_YMMV> 14.04 64bit, gnome, xsane dims (busy) then gives error. dmesg: xhci_hcd 0000:00:14.0: WARN Event TRB for slot 3 ep 2 with no TDs queued?
[18:27] <seto> welp now to see if my comp implodes :p
[18:28] <seto> well didnt blow up or nothing so guess im good
[18:29] <seto> and yes my comp really dos reboot that fast
[18:29] <x64_Trusty_YMMV> the error message in XSane: Error during read: Error during device I/O.
[18:29] <mina> ciao a tutti
[18:29] <mina> !list
[18:31] <Heart-Of-A-Lion> Does anyone know a program for Ubuntu with which you can create invoices?
[18:32] <radeonHD747> hello
[18:32] <OerHeks> Heart-Of-A-Lion, libre office can http://ubuntumanual.org/posts/362/libre-office-series-create-effective-invoice-for-your-business-part-1
[18:33] <radeonHD747> i have an radeon 7470M and it dont want to wotk with ubuntu 16.04
[18:33] <radeonHD747> i always get this message [   15.376414] [drm:radeon_init [radeon]] *ERROR* No UMS support in radeon module!
[18:34] <BluesKaj> radeonHD747, install xserver-xorg-video-amdgpu
[18:34] <radeonHD747> BluesKaj already done
[18:35] <radeonHD747> still not working
[18:36] <radeonHD747> my graphics are kinda working but only low resolution and slow
[18:38] <radeonHD747> please help
[18:38] <OerHeks> reverse to the radeon driver, i think. we have to wait for xorg 1.8.
[18:39] <x64_Trusty_YMMV> nobody wants to touch xsane with a 10 byte pole today, lol. back to cruisin the interwebs
[18:41] <radeonHD747> i removed every driver  and installed radeon again... triing reboot
[18:42] <HamsterStyle> Hello
[18:42] <BluesKaj> OerHeks, the amdgpu driver is supposed to be the answer to the amd gpus problems ...i guess not  :-(
[18:43] <ducasse> x64_Trusty_YMMV: that looked more like an issue with usb/the kernel than with xsane to me, but i don't know how to fix it.
[18:43] <OerHeks> BluesKaj, he had a better view with the standard one??
[18:44] <BluesKaj> dunno
[18:44] <HamsterStyle> I got so fed up with dealing with amd linux drivers
[18:44] <BluesKaj> depends on his release version
[18:44] <OerHeks> join the club, HamsterStyle
[18:46] <HamsterStyle> glad to hear it's not just me OerHeks
[18:47] <BluesKaj>  well i prefer ther linux driver challenges to the windoww security holes :-0
[18:48] <m3n3chm0> x64_Trusty_YMMV found the issue, can i paste here ¿? it's just one line output
[18:48] <x64_Trusty_YMMV> ducasse: thanks. trying to do same task with same peripherals i've been using for years, but with new hardware and 64bit os
[18:48] <m3n3chm0> I ran vlc in termninal then click screenshot button in GUI and i get a error output
[18:48] <x64_Trusty_YMMV> m3: not my room, not sure what the rules are for pasting
[18:49] <m3n3chm0> [00007fc2e446fd48] vdpau_chroma filter error: corrupt VDPAU video surface 0x7fc2a4011450
[18:49] <x64_Trusty_YMMV> m3: ooh, that was a good t-shoot technique
[18:49] <BluesKaj> past\ing one line is ok
[18:49] <HamsterStyle> me too, and I fixed my driver challenges by switching to nvidia, had a couple 8800GTs lying around
[18:50] <ducasse> x64_Trusty_YMMV: try an older or newer kernel, and other usb ports.
[18:53] <x64_Trusty_YMMV> ducasse: clean install, so not much 'older' kernels in the boot list. most everything is running well so i plan to try both 32bit and 64bit on the old machine and see where that goes. i think i saw something about power management for the usb ports on some we page. i'll see what bios settings are available
[18:53] <m3n3chm0> x64_Trusty_YMMV it is pasted ... did you see the error message ¿?
[18:54] <x64_Trusty_YMMV> m3: yeah. weird.
[18:54] <x64_Trusty_YMMV> m3: now what does *that* mean? lol.
[18:55] <Henster> batteling so much to make a dns server ..i want to cry
[18:55] <x64_Trusty_YMMV> ducasse: funny thing is that it seems to work fine with every other scan attempt. so i can work around by dismissing the error and scanning that page again.
[18:56] <m3n3chm0> x64_Trusty_YMMV the issue it is on my NVIDIA driver...
[18:57] <HamsterStyle> m3: yeah, it seems that it's a bug in vlc https://trac.videolan.org/vlc/ticket/14456
[18:57] <mark_12_34> hello everyone
[18:57] <HamsterStyle> Hello
[18:58] <mark_12_34> sorry to be bothering.. I'm new in Linux :o
[18:58] <HamsterStyle> m3n3chm0: apparently you can disable vdpau in preferences -> input & codecs. try that.
[18:59] <geekos> Bonsoir , Hello
[18:59] <xubuntu02i> Bonsoir !
[18:59] <BluesKaj> mark_12_34, it's no bother, just state your issue, we'' try to help
[18:59] <mark_12_34> I'm trying to install Cisco AnyConnect Secury Mobility Client on Ubuntu Mate Lts 16.04 (64bits)
[19:00] <x64_Trusty_YMMV> m3n3chm0: HamsterStyle: i just learned to use the tab key to type your names here. old dog / new tricks... good to know it's a vlc bug
[19:00] <rattlebattle79> Instead of Anyconnect:
[19:00] <rattlebattle79> sudo apt-get install openconnect
[19:00] <rattlebattle79> sudo openconnect vpn.yoursite.com
[19:00] <m3n3chm0> HamsterStyle good.. now it's working thanks al lot mate !!
[19:00] <mark_12_34> ok I will try that first then :)
[19:00] <mark_12_34> thanks
[19:01] <mark_12_34> does anyone have a link on configuring and using openconnect?
[19:02] <ducasse> x64_Trusty_YMMV: you can find both older and newer kernels in the mainline ppa if you want to test.
[19:02] <Mikelevel> mark_12_34~ network-manager works with vpn too
[19:02] <MonkeyDust> !info openconnect
[19:02] <HamsterStyle> m3n3chm0, good to hear
[19:02] <\9> huh, that exists?
[19:03] <mark_12_34> Mikelevel thank u2 for the tip.. taking it one step at a time, ok?
[19:03] <HamsterStyle> x64_Trusty_YMMV, this is about my 5th time on irc so I just learned that too
[19:03] <x64_Trusty_YMMV> mark_12_34, developer site, per ubuntu software center: http://www.infradead.org/openconnect/
[19:03] <NAwer> HI!
[19:03] <love3> Good morning
[19:04] <NAwer> What do the bestest and most user-friendly Personal Firewall for KDE you know?
[19:04] <mark_12_34> Mikelevel only now understood what you meant
[19:05] <mark_12_34> Mikelevel: do I do sudo apt-get install networkmanager?
[19:05] <Mikelevel> what is your desktop?
[19:06] <mark_12_34> mikelevel: ubuntu mate 16.04 LTS 64bits
[19:07] <NAwer> What GUI Firewall are the good?
[19:07] <Mikelevel> you have installed it . righ click in connection systray
[19:07] <NAwer> Qt
[19:08] <Mikelevel> mark_12_34~ something like this https://support.hidemyass.com/hc/en-us/article_attachments/201701578/Step_2.1_NetworkManager-VPN-ConfigureVPN.png
[19:09] <BluesKaj> Mikelevel, install network-manager-openconnect as well
[19:09] <mark_12_34> Mikelevel: this is good stuff! Thanks a lot
[19:09] <BluesKaj> oops  mark_12_34^
[19:10] <mark_12_34> BluesKajL what's the oops for? Am I missing something?
[19:10] <mark_12_34> oh sorry
[19:10] <ducasse> NAwer: try gufw.
[19:10] <mark_12_34> I addressed the wrong person
[19:10] <mark_12_34> BluesKa: thanks a lot
[19:11] <BluesKaj> not now mark_12_34 i jsut used the wrong nick
[19:11] <mark_12_34> *BluesKaj
[19:13] <x64_Trusty_YMMV> hopefully a slightly easier question: gnome desktop on 14.04... lower right corner, number of workspaces. i can't figure out how to get it to show more than one workspace. i want 4 like the default in the older days
[19:15] <blz> Good evening, I need to determine which init system is being used by two servers.  The first is running ubuntu 14.04 and the second is running 16.04.  How should I proceed?
[19:15] <HamsterStyle> Settings -> Appearance -> Behavior -> check "enable workspaces" x64_Trusty_YMMV
[19:16] <HamsterStyle> or something similar
[19:16] <HamsterStyle> I enabled it recently on my laptop that way
[19:16] <ducasse> blz: ls -l /sbin/init
[19:17] <blz> ducasse, thank you
[19:18] <blz> Next question:  how can I list process that are owned by a given user?
[19:18] <x64_Trusty_YMMV> i enabled workspaces, but still no joy. i bring up workspace switcher preferences and set number of workspaces to 4, but it doesn't stay that way. when i check again, it has reverted to number of workspaces = 1
[19:19] <jmeuto> I am trying to use Gparted to expand a partition, but it won't let me use the allocated space.
[19:19] <HamsterStyle> blz, ps -U <username>
[19:19] <blz> HammerStyle, perfect, thank you very much!
[19:19] <thisguy> hey guys
[19:19] <MonkeyDust> blz  what's the first line of the outcome of    sudo stat /proc/1/exe
[19:20] <thisguy> I managed (by a reinstall) to fix my ubuntu installation.
[19:20] <BluesKaj> jmeuto, gparted live media?
[19:20] <thisguy> But I still have the problem that I cannot pair with my samsung bluetooth keyboard, because it vanishes from blueman in an eyeblink
[19:21] <thisguy> so it is apparently there. but not for long. What does this mean? What do I have to do??
[19:21] <thisguy> Plese help! :-(
[19:22] <HamsterStyle> x64_Trusty_YMMV tbqh not sure why it revers, perhaps a permission (sudo) issue?
[19:22] <jmeuto> No, on the system. I am dual booting and trying to make the Windows data partition bigger. I have 100 gb unallocated space. I can make a new partition or resize the one immediately to the left of the unallocated space, but not the data partiton
[19:22] <x64_Trusty_YMMV> HamsterStyle, thanks
[19:22] <HamsterStyle> thisguy I'd check your syslog for error messages, that's a good place to start
[19:23] <NAwer> What Firewall need use?
[19:23] <MonkeyDust> thisguy  try this, scroll down to bluez-utils   https://help.ubuntu.com/community/BluetoothSetup
[19:23] <BluesKaj> jmeuto, if the resizing affects any mounted partitions or partitions in use it won't resize without un mounting first
[19:23] <ducasse> NAwer: as i said, try gufw
[19:24] <jmeuto> BluesKaj, the partition is not mounted. I can make it smaller, but not bigger.
[19:24] <NAwer> it'll integrate to KDE 5?
[19:25] <ducasse> jmeuto: i doubt ubuntu can grow a windows filesystem.
[19:25] <ducasse> NAwer: what do you mean by 'integrate'?
[19:25] <NAwer> To panel
[19:25] <NAwer> Right Down
[19:26] <Kalhas> ducasse: i feel there is a tool for resizing but i am not sure if will be able tomaintain your data
[19:26] <NAwer> Icon
[19:26] <jmeuto> But it can shrink it, ducasse? I've done it before when the partition is next to the unallocated space
[19:26] <NAwer> And?
[19:26] <ducasse> jmeuto: i wouldn't do either, i would use the windows tools.
[19:27] <ducasse> NAwer: and what would the firewall do in a panel? you use it to open or block ports, that's it.
[19:27] <jmeuto> ducasse, which would you recommend? I've been using Linux exclusively for  years, but need Windows so Office 2013 will work for school.
[19:27] <NAwer> I want block or unlock programms
[19:28] <BluesKaj> jmeuto, delete the unused partition first then make a new partition and resize that
[19:28] <ducasse> NAwer: a firewall blocks _ports_. services, in other words.
[19:28] <jmeuto> It isn't an unused partition.
[19:28] <jmeuto> BluesKaj: see above
[19:29] <EriC^> jmeuto: are you using gparted for this?
[19:29] <jmeuto> Yes, EriC^
[19:29] <thisguy> HamsterStyle: where do I find it?
[19:29] <EriC^> jmeuto: what's the problem exactly?
[19:30] <OerHeks> is the unallocated space before the partition ?
[19:30] <thisguy> MonkeyDust: looks like 16.04 does not use this anymore? Or the packages got renamed?
[19:30] <ducasse> NAwer: it doesn't 'integrate' into the panel, it doesn't work like that. but it does it's job just fine.
[19:30] <x64_Trusty_YMMV> jmeuto, if gparted isn't allowing the partition to grow into free space, i would take that as a sign that there's a good reason for that... i would plan on losing the data if you persist. backing up the partition would be prudent, imho, before forcing it
[19:30] <MonkeyDust> thisguy  ok, then idk
[19:31] <jmeuto> I have it backuped
[19:31] <b4r> anyone in particular working on the php7.0 package to update to 7.0.7 from 7.0.4?
[19:31] <HamsterStyle> thisguy, /var/log/syslog is where it is
[19:31] <HamsterStyle> I'm not familiar with your bluetooth program, it may have a log of its own too
[19:32] <jmeuto> It'll let me make it smaller, but not bigger. Is this because the unallocated space isn't immediately to the right or left of the partition?
[19:32] <x64_Trusty_YMMV> jmeuto, well then, i would try deleting the partition, saving changes, then creating new partition using the old+new space
[19:32] <ducasse> jmeuto: just do it from windows, save yourself the grief.
[19:32] <MonkeyDust> b4r  do you mean working on=using, or working on=developing?
[19:32] <HamsterStyle> thisguy, running cat | grep <bluetooth program name> may point you to the lines you care about
[19:33] <jmeuto> ducasse, will do.
[19:33] <x64_Trusty_YMMV> i'm out. have a great night, all!
[19:33] <HamsterStyle> thisguy, err sorry cat /var/log/syslog | grep <bluetooth name>
[19:33] <ducasse> jmlinux is not great at dealing with ntfs.
[19:33] <b4r> MonkeyDust: devel
[19:33] <camroncade> so I still have this problem, when I boot from my own lightdm session, and I execute "gnome-session" and "unity" everything loads normally, except I don't have the clock or settings button on the top right of the screen, and applications menus are within the app window and not on the top bar...and ideas as to why?
[19:33] <MonkeyDust> b4r  this is the support channel, not the developer's channel
[19:34] <b4r> MonkeyDust: agreed, was in devel and read something about xenial support over here (from the devel topic)
[19:36] <su-os> hey guys
[19:36] <camroncade> hey su-os
[19:36] <su-os> have you try my distro su os , you can get it from ##su.os
[19:36] <su-os> :)
[19:37] <thisguy> HamsterStyle: this results in quite some stuff - none of which I understand :-(
[19:38] <dovah> does anybody work for ubuntu.. the qtcreator package in the ubuntu repos in 16.04 breaks unity. unity wont load the launcher or menu bar up top
[19:39] <NAwer> gufw will start after DE?
[19:39] <nacc> dovah: consider filing a bug?
[19:40] <MonkeyDust> NAwer  yes, gufw is a GUI for ufw
[19:40] <dovah> do yo know how to do that? i never did that before
[19:40] <MonkeyDust> !bug
[19:40] <NAwer> ufw start after many programms?
[19:40] <nacc> MonkeyDust: thanks :)
[19:41] <dovah> ok thanks but can i do that from xubuntu or do i have to reinstall ubuntu then do it?
[19:41] <tgm4883> NAwer: no, ufw starts fairly early
[19:41] <nacc> dovah: you can do it from any installation, afaik
[19:41] <NAwer> after grub?
[19:41] <dovah> ok thanks
[19:42] <tgm4883> NAwer: well yes, it would start after grub
[19:42] <NAwer> i think after kernel linux
[19:42] <radeon747> I still have the radeon problem
[19:42] <mark_12_34> I have a question.. When I start gedit I get the error: (gedit:2366): Gtk-WARNING **: Theme parsing error: gtk-main.css:69:33: Failed to import: Error opening file: No such file or directory
[19:42] <mark_12_34> then gedit opens nonetheless :)
[19:42] <NAwer> and if i wan firewall for Xen?
[19:42] <NAwer> want
[19:44] <\9> mark_12_34: just ignore that
[19:44] <mark_12_34> ok :)
[19:44] <mark_12_34> thanks
[19:44] <radeon747> does anyone have an radeon 7470M  that runns?
[19:44] <NAwer> just ignire all in linux
[19:45] <NAwer> many bugs
[19:45] <reisio> radeon747: probably someone
[19:45] <NAwer> nothing no eork
[19:45] <NAwer> w
[19:45] <tgm4883> radeon747: mines close, it's a 7560M I think
[19:45] <nacc> NAwer: stop it.
[19:45] <NAwer> why?
[19:45] <NAwer> its true
[19:45] <nacc> NAwer: you're just putting out noise
[19:46] <radeon747> tgm4883 does it work on 16.04?
[19:46] <tgm4883> radeon747: yea
[19:46] <tgm4883> radeon747: that laptop has been on 16.04 for awhile now
[19:47] <radeon747> .... it uses the open source driver I think?
[19:47] <NAwer> qufw  I want reject all except for some programs
[19:47] <NAwer> What to do?
[19:47] <blz> What am I doing wrong in this upstart script?  `sudo service start circuit` fails when I leave setuid and setgid uncommented. http://paste.debian.net/706442/
[19:48] <tgm4883> NAwer: for outgoing programs?
[19:48] <Bundestrojaner> good evening
[19:48] <Bashing-om> NAwer: http://ubuntuforums.org/showthread.php?t=2325429&page=2&p=13495084#post13495084 ; http://ubuntuforums.org/showthread.php?t=2317751 . AMD is working hard to give us what we asked for .
[19:48] <k1l> NAwer: instead of ranting in here you could have read the manuals and already set that. use iptables if you want to work without gui.
[19:48] <NAwer> I want reject ALL
[19:49] <NAwer> i cant use iptables
[19:49] <tgm4883> NAwer: you want to block all outgoing traffic?
[19:49] <NAwer> and incoming
[19:49] <tgm4883> NAwer: well incoming should already be getting blocked
[19:49] <NAwer> except for some programs
[19:50] <Silenced> Is there any possible way to stop providing access to specific folders when someone SSH into my system ?
[19:50] <Bashing-om> radeon747:  http://ubuntuforums.org/showthread.php?t=2325429&page=2&p=13495084#post13495084 ; http://ubuntuforums.org/showthread.php?t=2317751 . AMD is working hard to give us what we asked for .
[19:50] <NAwer> how to add an exception?
[19:50] <nacc> Silenced: well, permissions -- depending on what user they ssh in as and the permissions the directories in question
[19:51] <NAwer> yes inc is reject
[19:52] <Bundestrojaner> nvidia released a new driver (361.45), when will it be available in the driver manager?
[19:52] <love3> I love you all <3
[19:52] <NAwer> H E L P P L E A S E
[19:52] <blz> !patience | NAwer
[19:53] <NAwer> ubottu, hello
[19:53] <ryclik> NAwer: My first instinct is iptables. But you said no iptables
[19:53] <Billyzekid> hello
[19:53] <MonkeyDust> NAwer  and no caps
[19:54] <NAwer> I wan gui
[19:54] <NAwer> its easy and fast
[19:54] <k1l> NAwer: then use gufw
[19:54] <blz> NAwer, what have you installed?
[19:54] <k1l> !gufw | NAwer
[19:54] <NAwer> gufw
[19:55] <unborn> guys does 16.04 still have problem to install 3th party packages aka google chrome? or it was already solved?
[19:55] <k1l> unborn: solved
[19:55] <reisio> unborn: not sure it ever did
[19:55] <NAwer> i now have 2 gui firewall
[19:55] <NAwer> gufw and kde
[19:55] <MonkeyDust> NAwer  fwbuilder is a gui for iptables
[19:55] <k1l> NAwer: stop talking and talking and ranting. stick to facts and details, so people could actually help you.
[19:55] <Bashing-om> Bundestrojaner: Version 361 is availabale in the 16.04 repo . Else is available from our trusted PPA .
[19:55] <unborn> reisio: well the day it was released I found it did had that issue..
[19:56] <unborn> k1l: thank you! Im going to try install
[19:56] <k1l> unborn: there was an issue with the new used gnome software center. but that is fixed
[19:56] <tpw_rules> i need help not ddosing myself. i'm working with matlab which can occasionally allocate horrific amounts of memory (due to my poor programming) and swap the system to death. the problem is I work remotely, so it takes literally 10 minutes for an ssh connection to connect so i can kill it. is there a way to somehow keep ssh alive enough that doesn't involve automatically killing matlab?
[19:56] <NAwer> ok
[19:57] <NAwer> What the BESTEST GUI for FireWall?
[19:57] <MonkeyDust> NAwer  the best is the one you like most, try a few
[19:57] <k1l> NAwer: use gufw. i dont know if kde got some own ufw or iptables frontend.
[19:58] <NAwer> sudo apt-get install fwbuilder i now doing
[19:58] <camroncade> tpw_rules https://www.a2hosting.com/kb/getting-started-guide/accessing-your-account/keeping-ssh-connections-alive
[19:58] <NAwer> Unknown media type in type 'all/all' Unknown media type in type 'all/allfiles' Unknown media type in type 'uri/mms' Unknown media type in type 'uri/mmst' Unknown media type in type 'uri/mmsu' Unknown media type in type 'uri/pnm' Unknown media type in type 'uri/rtspt' Unknown media type in type 'uri/rtspu'
[19:58] <NAwer> how to remove this bug?
[19:59] <ryclik> NAwer: I would say gufw is definitely the _simplest_.
[19:59] <tpw_rules> camroncade: that's not the problem i don't think. there is just such huge memory pressure that sshd swaps in like 4KB at a time over several minutes
[20:00] <unborn> k1l: indeed it was thank you
[20:00] <NAwer> test
[20:01] <Bundestrojaner> Bashing-om: right, i just wonder why it was not suggested by kubuntu's driver manager
[20:02] <Bashing-om> Bundestrojaner: Not in the repo of your release ( 14.04 ?) ??
[20:02] <NAwer> Any other firewalls?
[20:03] <Bundestrojaner> Bashing-om: apt-get knows nvidia-361
[20:03] <ryclik> Anyone know of a way I could get a printer working for Linux that has no Linux drivers? I seem to remember there being something that ported wifi drivers somehow back in 12.04. Anything for printers?
[20:03] <mark_12_34> I'vea question regarding network manager
[20:03] <unborn> NAwer: iptables
[20:03] <unborn> ?
[20:03] <NAwer> gui
[20:03] <mark_12_34> in the configuration instruction it says gpasswd -a USERNAME network
[20:03] <mark_12_34> but what USERNAME?
[20:03] <NAwer> iptables is hard
[20:04] <unborn> NAwer: ah then stick with gufw
[20:04] <ryclik> ^
[20:04] <Bashing-om> Bundestrojaner: A) from a PPA ? b) on a release that contains the 361 driver in it's repo ?
[20:04] <NAwer> i have 3 firewalls now and want test more
[20:05] <tpw_rules> in case anybody was interested, just now the court found that google's use of the java APIs is fair use
[20:05] <Pici> tpw_rules: I was interested, but not really on-topic for here, good topic for #ubuntu-offtopic though :)
[20:05] <Bundestrojaner> Bashing-om: sry, what do you mean? apt-get knows nvidia-361, so i think i could install it there. but the driver-manager doesn't list it
[20:05] <tpw_rules> Pici: heh yeah probably. sorry
[20:06] <k1l> NAwer: they are just frontends for iptables.
[20:06] <NAwer> not necessary
[20:06] <ryclik> NAwer: firewall-config + firewalld
[20:06] <Bashing-om> Bundestrojaner: Should, I too would think .. system ypdated ? so the package manager is refreshed ?
[20:06] <NAwer> its what?
[20:07] <ryclik> NAwer: It's another iptables frontend gui
[20:07] <Bundestrojaner> Bashing-om: i klicked "refresh driver list" already
[20:08] <Bashing-om> Bundestrojaner: ' sudo apt update ; sudo apt upgrade ; apt list nvidia-361 ' . what returns from list ?
[20:09] <mark_12_34> it
[20:09] <NAwer> sudo apt-get install firewall-config Reading package lists... Done Building dependency tree        Reading state information... Done E: Unable to locate package firewall-config
[20:09] <NAwer> Why?
[20:10] <mark_12_34> it's written her section 2. Configuration step 7
[20:10] <mark_12_34> https://evilshit.wordpress.com/2012/09/15/how-to-make-networkmanager-and-network-manager-applet-work-on-arch-linux-with-gnome3/
[20:10] <mark_12_34> *her=here
[20:10] <ryclik> NAwer: works for me.
[20:11] <NAwer> what OS?
[20:11] <ryclik> NAwer: Ubuntu 16.04
[20:11] <mark_12_34> what USERNAME is meant in the command gpasswd -a USERNAME network
[20:11] <NAwer> I need then new Mint
[20:11] <Bundestrojaner> Bashing-om: sudo apt list nvidia-361 -> Listing... Fertig
[20:11] <NAwer> in June
[20:11] <ryclik> Can't help with Mint. Ask in Mint channel
[20:11] <ryclik> I don't use it
[20:12] <Pici> mark_12_34: that would be the username that you want to add to the 'network' group.
[20:13] <Bashing-om> Bundestrojaner: " Fertig " Is English "Done" ? Then that driver is not in the repo you are accessing .
[20:13] <mark_12_34> but can it vary depending on the VPN I am try to set up?
[20:13] <Bundestrojaner> Bashing-om: right
[20:14] <Pici> mark_12_34: I'm not sure what this has to do with VPNs.  gpasswd is purely for modifying system groups.
[20:14] <Bundestrojaner> Bashing-om: wtf? apt update removed it?
[20:15] <Bundestrojaner> before, i could run apt-get install nvidia-361. now i can't
[20:15] <mark_12_34> I'm trying to configure openconnect
[20:15] <mark_12_34> somewhere I got relayed to use network manager
[20:15] <Bashing-om> Bundestrojaner: Then until you make the ' driver-manager ' aware of where to get this driver, it will not be aware . Compare ' apt list nvidia-340 ' output .
[20:15] <parmariu> hellò  guys help me about update 11.10 if possible
[20:15] <MonkeyDust> parmariu  itr's dead
[20:16] <k1l> parmariu: honestly: make a clean new install of an actual supported ubuntu
[20:16] <Pici> well, an upgrade to 12.04 should still be possible
[20:16] <MonkeyDust> !eolupgrade | parmariu
[20:16] <mark_12_34> with openconnect so I'm ploughing thru the mandatory steps of starting network manager
[20:16] <mark_12_34> but no idea if I'm doing it right
[20:17] <Bundestrojaner> Bashing-om: but why the update made nvidia-361 dissapear from apt?
[20:17] <BluesKaj> mark_12_34, any errors ? if not then you're on the right track
[20:17] <Bashing-om> Bundestrojaner: Question, Why 361 version driver ? Do you know it is correct for your card(s) ?
[20:17] <Bundestrojaner> Bashing-om: yes, nvidia lists it on it's side
[20:18] <mark_12_34> can I just give the start command for network manager?
[20:19] <Bundestrojaner> Bashing-om: and it is said to fix the flickering in wot 9.15
[20:20] <love3> With my heart
[20:20] <Bashing-om> Bundestrojaner: K .. At square one, in this thought process . What release us this ? ' lsb_release -a ' . And what version of X ? ' X -version ' .
[20:21] <Bashing-om> Bundestrojaner: 915 is an Intel driver .. You have hybrid graphics ?
[20:21] <Bundestrojaner> Bashing-om: Ubuntu 14.04.4 LTS (it's Kubuntu...)
[20:21] <Bundestrojaner> Server 1.15.1
[20:21] <mark_12_34> sudo Networkmanager >> command not found?
[20:22] <Bundestrojaner> Bashing-om: i think my mainboard or cpu has an intel-gpu, but i never used it. I have a PC, not Laptop, and a gtx670
[20:22] <ryclik> mark_12_34: Are you looking for nm-applet?
[20:22] <mark_12_34> yes
[20:22] <Bashing-om> Bundestrojaner: Rihgt, and I say again that the Nvidia driver for version 361 is not in our repo, If you require this version driver then I recommend our trusted PPA .
[20:23] <ryclik> :)
[20:23] <Bundestrojaner> Bashing-om: but why it was in the repo till i run apt update?
[20:23] <Bundestrojaner> i don't understand that
[20:24] <MonkeyDust> Bundestrojaner  what was?
[20:25] <Bundestrojaner> MonkeyDust: apt-get knew nvidia-361 before i run apt update
[20:25] <Ben64> in 14.04? nope
[20:25] <MonkeyDust> !info nvidia-361 trusty
[20:26] <Bundestrojaner> MonkeyDust, Ben: sudo apt-get install nvidia-361 - this was auto-completed
[20:26] <Bundestrojaner> since apt update it's gone
[20:26] <Bundestrojaner> i didn't run it
[20:26] <Ben64> still, nope
[20:26] <Ben64> never existed in 14.04
[20:27] <Bashing-om> Bundestrojaner: All I can think of is that there is/was a driver PPA in your sources . check: cat -n /etc/apt/sources.list ; tail -v -n +1 /etc/apt/sources.list.d/* . I do confirm that for the gtx670 card the 361 driver is recommended .
[20:28] <MonkeyDust> Bundestrojaner  maybe you had this   https://sites.google.com/site/easylinuxtipsproject/12
[20:29] <OnkelTem> Is there a way to work with bluetooth from command line on Ubuntu/Kubuntu 14.04?
[20:29] <Bundestrojaner> Bashing-om: maybe steampowered ?
[20:29] <OnkelTem> I need to turn BT ON, scan for devices, pair
[20:29] <OnkelTem> Specifically I have an XBox controller and would like to pair it with ubuntu to play games
[20:30] <MonkeyDust> OnkelTem  start with blueman
[20:32] <pseudo_> helllo
[20:32] <salvocosta> irc://irc.chlame.net/
[20:32] <OnkelTem> MonkeyDust: thanks!
[20:33] <pseudo_> any hack channel
[20:37] <W00dP3ck3r> pseudo_, lol  The best question anybody asked in this channel since morning! :-)
[20:39] <Bashing-om> Bundestrojaner: Steam ... Can't say for sure as I have no experience with steam .
[20:44] <MonkeyDust> OnkelTem  glad i could help
[20:49] <pseudo_> any1 live
[20:49] <MonkeyDust> pseudo_  this is the ubuntu support channel
[20:51] <pseudo_> from virtual machine I am not able use the ubuntu seamless mode... i am currently using host window OS... any package to install
[20:51] <pseudo_> ubuntu v16
[20:51] <pseudo_> any clue
[20:53] <unborn> seamless you mean headless pseudo?
[20:53] <MonkeyDust> pseudo_  install the guest additions
[20:53] <OerHeks> depends on the virtual machine, guest daditions in vbox?
[20:53] <pseudo_> already install virtual addtion
[20:53] <MrSanderson> Hello. I'm having problem with apt update. I can't connect to security.ubuntu.com. It's not the only problem I'm having with my netbook, by the way, I can't use IRC there.
[20:54] <MrSanderson> In this Windows desktop, I'm able to connect to the Ubuntu server and use IRC.
[20:54] <pseudo_> and change graphics and other
[20:54] <MonkeyDust> pseudo_  you can also ask in #vbox
[20:54] <pseudo_> ok
[20:54] <unborn> pseudo_: #virtualbox
[20:55] <pseudo_> thanks
[20:56] <MrSanderson> Can someone please help me?
[20:56] <pseudo_> any1 answer in unbuntu v16 why apt install <sw package>    ---missing get
[20:57] <Bashing-om> MrSanderson: Networking issue rather than an apt issue ? can you ' ping -c3 8.8.8.8 ; ping -c3 ubuntu.com ' ?
[20:57] <MonkeyDust> MrSanderson  start with a question
[20:57] <MonkeyDust> oh, didnt see it
[20:57] <pseudo_> apt-get update/upgrade
[20:58] <OerHeks> MrSanderson, windows10/fastboot is happen to cause such wifi/usb issues, disable it in windiws
[20:58] <pseudo_> From unbuntu v16 why apt install <sw package>    ---missing get
[20:58] <tgm4883> pseudo_: because apt is consolidating some of the different commands you used to need to get stuff done
[20:59] <MrSanderson> Bashing-om: I was able to ping 8.8.8.8
[20:59] <Bashing-om> OerHeks: MrSanderson Oh that voice of experience :)
[20:59] <Bashing-om> MrSanderson: ping ubuntu.com ?
[20:59] <MrSanderson> But ubuntu.com never answered.
[20:59] <pseudo_> what command?? are they released or in beta
[20:59] <MrSanderson> I cancelled, 84 packets were transmitted and none replied.
[21:00] <MonkeyDust> MrSanderson  if you can ping an ip addess, but nu url, then it's a dns issue
[21:00] <user2635> I'm copying files in ubuntu at the mo
[21:00] <user2635> but I can't see the dialogue?
[21:00] <user2635> How do I bring it back up
[21:00] <unborn> MonkeyDust: then you have no iinternet
[21:00] <MrSanderson> Why the DNS issue is limited to my netbook?
[21:00] <user2635> I've tried alt+tab, using gui, and right clicking to restore the window
[21:00] <user2635> but I still can't see it anywhere
[21:00] <MrSanderson> OerHeks: I don't know what W10 has to do with my netbook.
[21:01] <user2635> the only thing that confirms that its still copying is the icon when doing alt tab
[21:01] <user2635> it still shows the progress bar
[21:01] <Bashing-om> MrSanderson: K, so we have a networking issue . Is this system with a GUI .. and do you use the network-manager to control networking ?
[21:01] <MonkeyDust> user2635  in unity, right click on the icon in the launchbar, then  'show dialog'
[21:01] <MrSanderson> MonkeyDust: I can ping Google by URL.
[21:01] <user2635> MonkeyDust, tried that already
[21:02] <user2635> MonkeyDust, never mind, looks like it's finished now!
[21:02] <MrSanderson> Bashing-om: it's Ubuntu 16.04 with GUI.
[21:02] <isene> Anyone who can help on a Dropbox issue?
[21:02] <user2635> MonkeyDust, on another note, how do I make sure its finished? like, really make sure
[21:03] <user2635> I don't want to shutdown and find that the task was half way and ended
[21:03] <MonkeyDust> user2635  diff comes to mind
[21:03] <Bashing-om> MrSanderson: Sotty, I do not know network-manager .. will bow out to MonkeyDust and OerHeks .
[21:03] <MrSanderson> Bashing-om: my process list includes nm-applet.
[21:03] <Bashing-om> sorry*
[21:04] <MrSanderson> Bashing-om: previous versions of Ubuntu didn't use network-manager?
[21:04] <Bashing-om> MrSanderson: I just am not a GUI guy . No experience .
[21:04] <MrSanderson> Bashing-om: OK, thanks.
[21:05] <Bashing-om> MrSanderson: Rest assured I will not abondon you . Others here however are better qualified to advise .
[21:05] <user2635> MonkeyDust, diff?
[21:05] <user2635> MonkeyDust, I'm a newbie
[21:07] <MonkeyDust> user2635  ok, type    diff   [original] [copy]    <-- replace with the paths and file names
[21:07] <user2635> ohh
[21:07] <user2635> diff as in difference
[21:07] <user2635> comparing files?
[21:07] <MonkeyDust> uebera||  yes
[21:07] <MonkeyDust> user2635  yes
[21:07] <user2635> thanks!
[21:09] <w1z> hej
[21:11] <futurama140> hey guys how do i find the programs i've installed with wine?
[21:13] <MonkeyDust> user2635  keep it in the channel
[21:13] <emdub> hmm, what's the deal with mysql-server on xenial?  dpkg-reconfigure used to prompt for setting the root password, but it doesn't do that in xenial anymore so my database has some root password that i didn't enter
[21:13] <user2635> what doe r/wc mean
[21:13] <user2635> does*
[21:14] <IcAnu> found a b00k
[21:14] <user2635> If I backup my Ubuntu system, am I able to do a fresh install of Ubuntu MATE and restore the data there?
[21:15] <IcAnu> anyone here try arch linux? ... some d00dz suggested it ...
[21:16] <auronandace> user2635: depends what you want to restore, if its just settings from /home then sure
[21:16] <tgm4883> !ot | IcAnu
[21:16] <OerHeks> IcAnu, not ontopic for this channel, talk about it in #arch
[21:17] <IcAnu> ok ... what is the topic here?
[21:17] <tgm4883> IcAnu: you were literally just told
[21:17] <auronandace> IcAnu: ubuntu support, you can read the topic by typing /topic
[21:17] <IcAnu> me book says we still use IRC
[21:18] <IcAnu> I use 12.04 on a couple 32 bit machines
[21:18] <IcAnu> I am interested in improving security
[21:19] <tgm4883> IcAnu: do you have a ubuntu question?
[21:19] <IcAnu> I noted that google netstats to google ... yahoo netstats to amazon ...
[21:19] <Bashing-om> MrSanderson: Still under discussion . show us the result : ' ping -c3 ubuntu.com ' in a pastebin please .
[21:19] <IcAnu> perhaps not a unbuntu specific question
[21:20] <IcAnu> more of a general linux community question
[21:20] <IcAnu> are we factionized?
[21:20] <tgm4883> IcAnu: take it to #ubuntu-offtopic
[21:20] <ethern0t> heya
[21:20] <IcAnu> (factionalized)
[21:20] <IcAnu> ?
[21:20] <tgm4883> IcAnu: that's not a support question, so you need to move this to #ubuntu-offtopic
[21:21] <OerHeks> or #ubuntu-discuss
[21:21] <IcAnu> uh .. i'll try the d00dz
[21:21] <tgm4883> yep
[21:21] <MrSanderson> Bashing-om, I just found that the result is different between ' ping -c3 8.8.8.8 ; ping -c3 ubuntu.com ' and ' ping -c3 ubuntu.com '.
[21:21] <IcAnu> they are sleeping ... what is special about ubuntu?
[21:22] <MrSanderson> Bashing-om, in the first case, only 8.8.8.8 answers, on the second case, the responses work fine.
[21:22] <IcAnu> Can I use it to find firmware holes in my chipsets ...
[21:22] <k1l> !ot | IcAnu
[21:22] <IcAnu> !ot
[21:23] <IcAnu> ^what's that^ ?
[21:23] <k1l> IcAnu: read the bots message. please keep this channel now clear for technical support. thanks
[21:23] <IcAnu> !register
[21:23] <auronandace> IcAnu: it tells the bot (ubottu) a command
[21:23] <IcAnu> i'll string it .. tnx
[21:23] <tgm4883> IcAnu: You've been repeatedly told that this needs to be out of this channel since it's not ubuntu support. Please go to one of the other channels you've been directed to, such as #ubuntu-discuss
[21:24] <genii> IcAnu: It means this channel is for assisting users who are having support issues with their Ubuntu, and that the #ubuntu-offtopic channel is for other talk which is not support related
[21:24] <Bashing-om> MrSanderson: K, then on to the next step .. what results ' sudo apt update ' ?
[21:24] <OerHeks> Does ubuntu still support 8" shugart drives?
[21:25] <MrSanderson> Bashing-om, just normal messages, no errors anymore.
[21:26] <MrSanderson> Bashin-om, but I can't connect to freenode server on IRC yet! This is a problem, because prevents me to come here.
[21:26] <MrSanderson> Bashing-om, but I can't connect to freenode server on IRC yet! This is a problem, because prevents me to come here.*
[21:27] <Bashing-om> MrSanderson: Going through a proxie set up ??
[21:28] <MrSanderson> Bashing-om, I'm not using proxies nor VPNs now. I could not connect to my VPN hours ago, so gave up to using it.
[21:28] <futurama140> i'm trying to play fallout with wine and i cant find any way of making the game full screen. does anyone know how?
[21:29] <Bashing-om> MrSanderson: Catching me short on skills again .. No experience with a VPN . Can not advise in that respect .
[21:29] <auronandace> !appdb | futurama140
[21:30] <MrSanderson> Bashing-om, but... I'm not using it now!
[21:32] <MrSanderson> Bashing-om, hum, I think I forgot to tell: I travelled yesterday. No problems in my home, just arrived in this other place.
[21:32] <MrSanderson> just after arrived*
[21:33] <Bashing-om> MrSanderson: We getting deeper and deeper ..OK .. WIFI ?? I know nothing about WIFI either .
[21:34] <MrSanderson> Bashing-om, I ran "apt update" again and it failed to fetch 2 domains of Ubuntu.com. Something like "temporary fault to resolve ...".
[21:34] <MrSanderson> Bashing-om, no, I'm using ethernet cable, and tested it to make sure it's not a problem with it. The leds of the tester says it's OK.
[21:34] <Bashing-om> !pastebin | MrSanderson
[21:34] <_zlate_> hi all, I have a script contianing a bunch of iptables rules, however its blocking some unintended packets.. Is there any way to spot the rule causing it?
[21:35] <MrSanderson> Bashing-om, I have tried other cables, tried connecting directly to the modem instead of the router.
[21:35] <MrSanderson> !pastebin
[21:35] <MrSanderson> OK, I copy and paste on pastebin the terminal text?
[21:36] <Bashing-om> MrSanderson: Show us the output in a pastebin site the results of ' sudo apt update ' so we get all in context . Maybe the mirror you are accessing is not synced up ?
[21:37] <MonkeyDust> MrSanderson  http://paste.ubuntu.com/
[21:37] <RandomUser1234> i don't know which amd GFX driver to use for my laptop as I can't seem to find one for my AMD Radeon HD 6540G2
[21:38] <k1l> RandomUser1234: on ubuntu 16.04 the fglrx dont work anymore. amd now support the kernel drivers
[21:38] <RandomUser1234> k1l: so what do i do?
[21:39] <k1l> RandomUser1234: you dont install drivers for amd now. the kernel already ships the driver
[21:40] <RandomUser1234> k1l: Meaning it's already installed and set? Because I think I'm having issues with hardware acceleration.
[21:41] <MrSanderson> Bashing-om https://paste.ubuntu.com/16718817/
[21:41] <Pinchiukas> So what is the current suggested method of getting flash on Chromium?
[21:42] <Bashing-om> MrSanderson: look'n at your https://paste.ubuntu.com/16718817/ .
[21:43] <MonkeyDust> Pinchiukas  try pepperflash
[21:44] <Pinchiukas> MonkeyDust: but... https://wiki.ubuntu.com/Chromium/Getting-Flash
[21:44] <MrSanderson> RandomUser1234, the drivers Ubuntu 16.04 uses are not optimal, you will probably have problems with hardware acceleration.
[21:44] <RandomUser1234> MrSanderson: what can I do to fix it?
[21:45] <MonkeyDust> Pinchiukas  ok, wasnt aware, then my hint has no value... didnt know
[21:45] <RandomUser1234> i tried disabling hardware acceleration in VLC, but I'm still having issues.
[21:45] <potasmic> hey! Is there a Rufus (Bootable USB ISO burner thing) but for Ubuntu?
[21:45] <BLZbubba> it appears that the ubuntu sudoers file ignores "env_keep" -- is this true?
[21:45] <RandomUser1234> on this HVEC/H.265 file
[21:45] <RandomUser1234> HEVC*
[21:46] <MrSanderson> RandomUser1234, I think there is nothing you can do besides asking AMD to help making better drivers.
[21:46] <RandomUser1234> what hardware is good with ubuntu?
[21:46] <reisio> RandomUser1234: what kind of trouble?
[21:46] <MrSanderson> RandomUser1234, I tried to contact them, but they don't have contact form anymore...
[21:46] <reisio> HEVC is pretty demanding, moreso the higher resolution the video is
[21:46] <RandomUser1234> what cpu & gfx is good with ubuntu I mean
[21:46] <BLZbubba> RandomUser1234: i have always had better luck with nvidia
[21:46] <reisio> RandomUser1234: most any
[21:46] <BLZbubba> and intel
[21:47] <reisio> potasmic: unetbootin, dd, probably rufus, too
[21:47] <MrSanderson> I bought AMD because I expected that it would have better support for GNU/Linux, appears I was wrong.
[21:48] <potasmic> reisio, idk how to burn iso with dd, I'll look up about unetbootin, can't find a Linux version of Rufus (or have not tried looking hard enough)
[21:48] <reisio> MrSanderson: in what way does it appear that way?
[21:48] <reisio> potasmic: unetbootin should be fine; dd is the best/"simplest", but certain precautions must be taken
[21:48] <Pinchiukas> Anybody else have any insight on what is the recommended flash package for Chromium?
[21:48] <MrSanderson> reisio, because the AMD drivers for Ubuntu 16.04 are not as good.
[21:48] <potasmic> reisio, Okay, I don't want to risk. Burning Win10.
[21:48] <reisio> Pinchiukas: comes with flash
[21:49] <reisio> MrSanderson: not as good in what way? Not as good as what?
[21:49] <Pinchiukas> reisio: ???
[21:49] <reisio> potasmic: you're trying to put windows 10 on a usb for installation?
[21:49] <potasmic> reisio, Is it possible?
[21:49] <reisio> Pinchiukas: it comes with flash
[21:49] <reisio> potasmic: yes, is that a yes?
[21:49] <potasmic> reisio, I just looked up UNetbootin and realized it's for Ubuntu and Linux installations
[21:50] <potasmic> reisio, so... it's possible???
[21:50] <Pinchiukas> reisio: there is no package named 'flash'.
[21:50] <reisio> I'll take that as a 'yes', even though you haven't said it :p
[21:50] <potasmic> I'm on Ubuntu, reisio. switching back to Win10
[21:50] <reisio> Pinchiukas: chromium has flash builtin
[21:50] <reisio> potasmic: this'll probably work: http://serverfault.com/questions/6714/how-to-make-windows-7-usb-flash-install-media-from-linux#answer-167060
[21:50] <MrSanderson> reisio, I'm comparing the AMD driver Ubuntu 16.04 uses, with the proprietary drivers.
[21:50] <reisio> MrSanderson: and?
[21:51] <Pinchiukas> reisio: you probably mean that chromium-browser 'suggests' adobe-flash?
[21:51] <MrSanderson> reisio, and the proprietary ones works better.
[21:51] <potasmic> reisio, thanks. looking into it
[21:51] <reisio> Pinchiukas: sure don't
[21:51] <reisio> MrSanderson: so use the proprietary ones
[21:51] <Pinchiukas> reisio: you're not making a lot of sense. :)
[21:51] <reisio> Pinchiukas: if you say so
[21:52] <reisio> Pinchiukas: maybe this is what you want? https://wiki.ubuntu.com/Chromium/Getting-Flash
[21:52] <MrSanderson> reisio, Ubuntu 16.04 isn't compatible with them.
[21:52] <reisio> MrSanderson: sure it is
[21:52] <MrSanderson> reisio, support was dropped.
[21:53] <Pinchiukas> reisio: not sure.
[21:53] <reisio> MrSanderson: nah
[21:53] <MrSanderson> reisio, it is related to some X-server update on Ubuntu 16.04.
[21:53] <MrSanderson> I think...
[21:53] <MrSanderson> X-org
[21:54] <MrSanderson> Bashing-om, finished reading the pasted text?
[21:55] <Bashing-om> MrSanderson: Findished .. verifying the mirror . Is this Brazil ? And have you tried changing your mirror site ?
[21:55] <MrSanderson> Bashing-om, yes Brazil.
[21:56] <MrSanderson> Bashing-om, I don't know if I should change. I can't use VPN, access some sites, connect to IRC, nor the security.ubuntu.com. Appears not to be a problem with the mirror, right?
[21:57] <cosmicfires> Hi is there a replacement for gnome-disks in 16.04?
[21:58] <LUR> how can I install grub with Ubuntu with UEFI?
[21:58] <Bashing-om> MrSanderson: The notice is "  Temporary failure resolving 'br.archive.ubuntu.com' "" . Wait a bit and see if the mirror syncs up OR change the mirror sote and see if the problem still persists ?
[21:58] <lyze> LUR, you boot the live cd in uefi mode and then create a uefi partition during install with ~200 mb or so ;)
[21:59] <LUR> mmm
[22:00] <LUR> is there need to reinstall?
[22:00] <Bashing-om> MrSanderson: Overall I agree. not a mirror issue, but more as a proxie issue .
[22:00] <MrSanderson> Bashing-om, proxy issue? I'm not using a proxy.
[22:02] <Bashing-om> MrSanderson: Something is interferring with resolving the hostnames . some work some do not .
[22:02] <potasmic> Hey guys. How do I do mkfs.ntfs when my terminal keeps saying "/dev/sdb1 is mounted"?
[22:02] <potasmic> oh shit I think I can umount
[22:02] <potasmic> nevmerind
[22:03] <MrSanderson> Bashing-om, yeah, there is a way to discover?
[22:03] <MrSanderson> is there a way*
[22:03] <Bashing-om> potasmic: and work ffom a live environment :)
[22:03] <potasmic> Bashing-om, wot?
[22:05] <Bashing-om> potasmic: "/dev/sdb1 is mounted" .. maybe best to work from a live environment such that the target is not in use ??
[22:05] <potasmic> Bashing-om, haha... too late... I umount'd it
[22:06] <Bashing-om> MrSanderson: Ouch .. above my skill set to discover where .
[22:09] <Nocturius> Hello, I just installed ubuntu mate and I can use gtf and xrandr to add a mode for 1920x1080 but when I restart my resolution resets to 1024x768. Does anyone know how I can make the 1080p mode persistent
[22:12] <potasmic> omg copying file using cp is laggy af
[22:12] <EriC^^> your hdd is toast maybe
[22:12] <potasmic> o noes :C
[22:23] <DesertEagle_PWN> Hey everyone, I'm trying to keep my perforce server on one Ubuntu instance identical with another. My first course of action was to try copying over the entire server directory, so here is what I've tried on each machine (http://paste.ubuntu.com/16719707/)
[22:24] <DesertEagle_PWN> Anyone know a good way to keep these two in sync and/or why I keep getting a Permission denied error on the backup when I run scp?
[22:24] <nacc> DesertEagle_PWN: so one is a backup of hte other, in essence?
[22:24] <cosmicfires> DesertEagle_PWN, unison
[22:24] <nacc> DesertEagle_PWN: unison or rsync
[22:24] <DesertEagle_PWN> Basically
[22:24] <cosmicfires> or rsnapshot
[22:26] <DesertEagle_PWN_> sorry got disconnected
[22:26] <DesertEagle_PWN_> As I was saying, my VPS provider is bad about uptime, so I want them for redundency
[22:27] <cosmicfires> DesertEagle_PWN_, unison or rsnapshot which use rsync
[22:27] <cosmicfires> linode.com has been very dependable
[22:29] <DesertEagle_PWN_> cosmicfires So if I were to use unison and my original server were to go offline, the other server should be an exact dupe? Also, when the primary server comes back online will it sync the changes back to the primary?
[22:30] <cosmicfires> you have to set up when to run it using a cron job
[22:30] <cosmicfires> I don't know of an automatic solution but there may be one
[22:31] <cosmicfires> you need something to sync the machines every time a file changes ideally
[22:31] <DesertEagle_PWN_> Yikes... that's gonna be a lot of overhead... and a lot more infrastructure setup time.
[22:31] <cosmicfires> there may be a tool to do it but I don't know about it
[22:31] <cosmicfires> unison must be the same version on both machines
[22:32] <DesertEagle_PWN_> I guess I should really just bite the bullet and switch providers. Thanks for the insight though
[22:32] <cosmicfires> I've been happy with linode.com
[22:33] <nacc> DesertEagle_PWN_: i mean, your scp solution required the same thing, no?
[22:33] <DesertEagle_PWN_> Anyway, before I go, can you at least look at my paste? I'm currently getting a Permission denied error when I run scp on the backup and I don't know why
[22:34] <nacc> DesertEagle_PWN_: does the user you are scp'ing as have write permission to /usr/local/bin on the backup?
[22:34] <DesertEagle_PWN_> naac yea, but I really have no idea what I'm doing at the moment. More of a developer than a System Administrator
[22:34] <nacc> DesertEagle_PWN_: ah ok, i would very much look into unison or rsync than your own solution, then :)
[22:34] <DesertEagle_PWN_> naac; not sure, I'll check. Should because I'm using sudo on a root user
[22:34] <nacc> DesertEagle_PWN_: the overhead is the same (cronjob, which is no overhead)
[22:35] <nacc> DesertEagle_PWN_: ah yes, sorry, missed the sudo
[22:35] <cosmicfires> you can tell the kernel to notify you when a file changes but I don't know the details
[22:35] <nacc> DesertEagle_PWN_: is the scp giving permission denied (meaning wrong auth) or the copy itself?
[22:36] <cosmicfires> nacc, did you try scp -v ... for more info?
[22:36] <DesertEagle_PWN_> Well, I'm copying the server's Perforce directory, and so it's giving me an error for each file in the directory
[22:36] <DesertEagle_PWN_> scp
[22:36] <DesertEagle_PWN_> is the command actually throwing the error
[22:37] <nacc> DesertEagle_PWN_: --^ as cosmicfires said, -v may indicate what exactly is happening
[22:37] <nacc> DesertEagle_PWN_: and just to be sure, can you pastebin the actual output?
[22:39] <nacc> DesertEagle_PWN_: note that in the output you've provided, i'm trusting that you are running the server command from the correct directory, e.g.
[22:40] <DesertEagle_PWN_> nacc I'm working on updating the paste with some stuff. There a way to copy console output using putty?
[22:42] <DesertEagle_PWN_> http://paste.ubuntu.com/16720087/
[22:43] <DesertEagle_PWN_> Updated Paste
[22:43] <nacc> !pastebinit | DesertEagle_PWN_
[22:44] <nacc> DesertEagle_PWN_: oh i wonder
[22:44] <mikonik> cqan
[22:45] <nacc> DesertEagle_PWN_: no idea if this is it, but i wonder if you could try copying somewhere else (temporarily) and see if the error changes
[22:45] <nacc> DesertEagle_PWN_: as it's hard to distinguish the paths right now :)
[22:45] <massimo> ciao
[22:46] <DesertEagle_PWN_> Tried copying to backup's active director (which was /usr/)
[22:46] <nacc> DesertEagle_PWN_: but i also wonder if it's trying to scp user@...:/usr/local/bin/PerforceServer/xxxxxx to the local /usr/local/bin/ but there is no PerforceServer directory locally? rsync handles this, but i can't recally if scp does or not. You might also try not having the final '/' in the source
[22:46] <DesertEagle_PWN_> still denied
[22:47] <nacc> DesertEagle_PWN_: with the same messages?
[22:47] <DesertEagle_PWN_> yep
[22:47] <nacc> DesertEagle_PWN_: or a different path?
[22:47] <DesertEagle_PWN_> There is no PerforceServer directory on the backup
[22:47] <DesertEagle_PWN_> Backup is a fresh install
[22:47] <nacc> DesertEagle_PWN_: right, sorry, i'm asking if
[22:47] <nacc> it still says
[22:47] <nacc> "/usr/local/bin/PerforceServer/xxxx: permission denied" if you scp'd to a different path
[22:48] <DesertEagle_PWN_> Yep
[22:48] <nacc> ok, so your command was `sudo scp -r user@xxx.xxx.xxx.xxx:/usr/local/bin/PerforceServer/ /usr/` and it said "/usr/local/bin/PerforceServer/xxxxxxx: Permission denied" ?
[22:49] <DesertEagle_PWN_> Yep
[22:50] <nacc> DesertEagle_PWN_: hrm, very strange, you're sure the chmod took hold on the remote (xxx.xxx.xxx.xxx) ?
[22:50] <zykotick9> nacc: are you _sure_ you want to be using sudo with scp?!?!
[22:50] <nacc> zykotick9: that was going to be my next question
[22:51] <pradeep> how do i get my fingerprint to work on dell latitude e6430
[22:51] <nacc> DesertEagle_PWN_: so another test would be to not run w/ sudo, but as a regular user and see if you can scp to somehwere in ~
[22:51] <DesertEagle_PWN_> nacc my "ll -d /usr/local/bin/PerforceServer" on the primary server showed that Owner Group and Other all had rw permissions
[22:51] <nacc> DesertEagle_PWN_: ok
[22:52] <nacc> DesertEagle_PWN_: so i'd try w/o sudo and to just anywhere that your normal user can write (/tmp/test or ~/test e.g.)
[22:53] <nacc> DesertEagle_PWN_: could also be a permission issue along the path (e.g., on PerforceServer itself?)
[22:54] <DesertEagle_PWN_> Perforce does like to make things read-only locally, but I'm not too sure how it handles it's server files
[22:56] <DesertEagle_PWN_> same erro trying to copy to /tmp/ and ~/ even with and without sudo
[22:56] <nacc> DesertEagle_PWN_: so i'd expect it's a permissions issue on the server still
[22:57] <nacc> DesertEagle_PWN_: an easy check would be to ssh user@xxx.xxx.xxx.xxx
[22:57] <DesertEagle_PWN_> nacc that's my though too
[22:57] <OerHeks> pradeep, first check if your FP device is supported https://launchpad.net/~fingerprint/+archive/ubuntu/fingerprint-gui
[22:57] <nacc> DesertEagle_PWN_: and then try to cd to /usr/local/bin/PerforceServer
[22:57] <cosmicfires> DesertEagle_PWN_, how did you pick your nick?
[22:57] <OerHeks> https://launchpad.net/~fingerprint/+archive/ubuntu/fprint
[22:57] <DesertEagle_PWN_> @cosmicfires Not sure what you mean?
[22:58] <DesertEagle_PWN_> nacc I'm SSH'd into both terminals
[22:58] <cosmicfires> why did you call yourself DesertEagle_PWN_ ?
[22:58] <nacc> DesertEagle_PWN_: ok, as your regular user?
[22:58] <DesertEagle_PWN_> Because I tried to reconnect after diconnecting and it added an extra '_'
[22:59] <nacc> DesertEagle_PWN_: if so, can you `cd /usr/local/bin/PerforceServer` successfully on th eserver?
[22:59] <DesertEagle_PWN_> so user@xxx.xxx.xxx.xxx is actually a user with root access on the primary perforce server VM
[22:59] <cosmicfires> not that the DesertEagle part? makes me think of a handgun
[22:59] <DesertEagle_PWN_> @nacc, no permission denied
[22:59] <nacc> DesertEagle_PWN_: there you go.
[22:59] <DesertEagle_PWN_> let me permission check again
[23:00] <nacc> DesertEagle_PWN_: so i don't think "user" is root :)
[23:00] <nacc> DesertEagle_PWN_: or it would not get permission denied :)
[23:00] <DesertEagle_PWN_> so for permissions I have drw-rw-rw-
[23:01] <nacc> DesertEagle_PWN_: so i'd start with this: ssh user@server -> cd /usr/; cd /usr/local; cd /usr/local/bin; cd /usr/local/bin/PerforceServer
[23:01] <LUR> I am trying to login but lightdm goes to start again and again, I deleted .Xauthority but that doesnt work
[23:01] <LUR> help?
[23:01] <nacc> DesertEagle_PWN_: figure out where user is being prevented from cd'ing in the hierarchy
[23:02] <DesertEagle_PWN_> @nacc, already did; definitely PerforceServer
[23:03] <cosmicfires> DesertEagle_PWN_, you have to configure ssh and scp in /etc/ssh/ to allow root logins
[23:04] <nacc> DesertEagle_PWN_: unfortunately, need to step away, hopefully someone else can help -- getting "user" to be able to cd to that directory should clear up your issue
[23:04] <zykotick9> DesertEagle_PWN_: nacc actually with drw-rw-rw noone can cd into that directory.  add x if you want to get in there.
[23:04] <nacc> zykotick9: ack, was just noticing that
[23:04] <nacc> DesertEagle_PWN_: you need execute on directories to cd to them
[23:04] <DesertEagle_PWN_> ls
[23:06] <DesertEagle_PWN_> Whelp
[23:06] <DesertEagle_PWN_> that did it
[23:06] <DesertEagle_PWN_> once I changed permissions to include x I could cd in and now I can scp from the backup VM
[23:06] <LUR> hi?
[23:08] <Bashing-om> LUR: What have you done recently ? Do you also own .ICEauthority ? a driver loaded ' sudo lshw -C display ' ?
[23:09] <LUR> I deleted .Xauthority
[23:09] <LUR> a lot of times, problem stills
[23:09] <LUR> why my wallpaper (personal) stills there?
[23:09] <LUR> I deleted my HOME and the wallpaper is there ni lightdm, why?
[23:10] <Bashing-om> LUR: .ICEauthority also plays a part .. and no GUI driver, no GUI .
[23:10] <LUR> Bashing-om, why wallpaper stills there?
[23:11] <LUR> the personal I choose for my user?
[23:11] <LUR> I deleted home but the wallpaper stills in lightdm
[23:11] <LUR> where is that information?
[23:11] <LUR> it should be all in home
[23:12] <Bashing-om> LUR: You deleted /home ?? Then you have no operating system .
[23:12] <DesertEagle_PWN_> Thanks for your help guys. I really appreciate it.
[23:12] <LUR> home/.*
[23:13] <LUR> operating system is in / not in /home
[23:13] <LUR> as far as I know
[23:13] <LUR> not OS information
[23:13] <LUR> home is user information only
[23:13] <LUR> what the fuck is going on with ubuntu?
[23:14] <LUR> I lost the control of my computer
[23:14] <Bashing-om> !language | LUR
[23:14] <LUR> xD
[23:15] <LUR> Bashing-om, fuck you
[23:15] <LUR> Bashing-om, really
[23:15] <OerHeks> ...
[23:15] <LUR> You give any help and you are trying to modify my words?
[23:15] <LUR> xD
[23:16] <LUR> If you dont h elp the only reason is that you cant
[23:16] <LUR> And if you cant, you should shut the fuck up
[23:18] <maddawg4> stop swearing LUR
[23:18] <k1l> LUR: drop that attitude and language if you want to keep getting support in this channel.
[23:18] <maddawg4> we'll ban you for good
[23:19] <LUR> xD
[23:19] <LUR> wo what
[23:19] <LUR> so what
[23:19] <maddawg4> ok not helping now
[23:19] <maddawg4> even tho i know the fix
[23:19] <maddawg4> so you're on your own
[23:19] <LUR> maddawg4, You dont
[23:19] <maddawg4> :-) good lucks with t he google
[23:20] <maddawg4> dont what?
[23:20] <LUR> you dont know
[23:20] <LUR> xD
[23:20] <LUR> indeed I created new users and problem stills
[23:20] <k1l> maddawg4: no need for arguing any further.
[23:20] <JoeyKiwi> Hey. I'm having an issue with Ubuntu 16.04 after building my PC. I was directed here.
[23:20] <LUR> after a normal install and all working
[23:20] <LUR> reboot
[23:20] <LUR> and problems
[23:20] <maddawg4> JoeyKiwi, what's the issue
[23:20] <LUR> it make no sense
[23:20] <LUR> magic make no sense in my world
[23:21] <LUR> maddawg4, you cant, you will not
[23:21] <JoeyKiwi> I installed Ubuntu 16.04 and logged in. Upon logging in, I just see the background and some notification windows blinking on and off.
[23:21] <maddawg4> ok ignore list now for LUR
[23:21] <LUR> maddawg4, liar
[23:21] <LUR> xD
[23:22] <LUR> Im goint to install debian
[23:22] <k1l> JoeyKiwi: what video card do you have got?
[23:22] <LUR> and fuck this shit
[23:22] <JoeyKiwi> GTX 950
[23:22] <maddawg4> ah
[23:22] <k1l> JoeyKiwi: you installed a video driver for that already?
[23:23] <maddawg4> i had to do this JoeyKiwi for mine
[23:23] <maddawg4> http://my30daysoflinux.blogspot.com/2015/10/installing-nvidia-gtx-950-drivers-in.html
[23:23] <JoeyKiwi> I tried running the .run file from Nvidia, but it failed. The first error was that the distribution pre install scripts didn't work.
[23:23] <k1l> no need for that on 16.04. the nvidia driver in the repo should do
[23:23] <JoeyKiwi> Also, it isn't recognizing my ethernet connection.
[23:23] <maddawg4> hm
[23:23] <maddawg4> what NIC  you have?
[23:24] <_44trent> so i removed ubuntu from my dualboot and i was wondering if it was safe to remove the ubuntu folder in my efi partition
[23:24] <JoeyKiwi> http://pcpartpicker.com/p/WprcCy
[23:25] <JoeyKiwi> I don't know the NIC, but that's the part list.
[23:25] <maddawg4> is it the wifi not working
[23:25] <_44trent> considering i'm booting straight to the windows boot stuff, i don't see the purpose in having that ubuntu folder in my efi partition
[23:25] <maddawg4> the NIC is the network card
[23:25] <maddawg4> is it the wifi card or the wired on the board having issues?
[23:25] <JoeyKiwi> Wired
[23:26] <Bashing-om> maddawg4: Background info on our trusted driver PPA : https://lists.ubuntu.com/archives/ubuntu-desktop/2015-August/004693.html .
[23:27] <maddawg4> Bashing-om, what?
[23:27] <maddawg4> i think you meant to send that to JoeyKiwi i already know about that
[23:28] <maddawg4> trying to  find out what network card that board uses
[23:28] <Bashing-om> maddawg4: IRT to why not OEM driver install . Nvidia supports us fully , as well as many others .
[23:29] <maddawg4> what?
[23:29] <maddawg4> i am well aware
[23:29] <maddawg4> i am not the one with graphic card issues
[23:29] <JoeyKiwi> Thanks. I appreciate it. :)
[23:29] <Bashing-om> maddawg4: K .. Hope no offence .
[23:30] <maddawg4> JoeyKiwi, not sure why they wont show me that info
[23:30] <maddawg4> freaking stupid
[23:30] <maddawg4> have you tried windows on it by chance?
[23:30] <JoeyKiwi> Yes, Windows works.
[23:31] <maddawg4> what does windows show the network card as?
[23:31] <JoeyKiwi> Actually, Linux Mint works. I forgot the name, but it runs on some kind of backup driver.
[23:31] <JoeyKiwi> Oh. Linux Mint does not see the NIC, nevermind, only the graphics. I'll check WIndows now.
[23:32] <maddawg4> brb i gotta go get food
[23:32] <JoeyKiwi> k
[23:33] <JoeyKiwi> WIndows doesn't have drivers for it. I'll install them...
[23:34] <happynewyear13> please tell me the name of person mentioned in this video at minute 1:27 https://youtu.be/2b-uW2gaM7A?t=87
[23:34] <OerHeks> try #ubuntu-offtopic for that, happynewyear13
[23:36] <JoeyKiwi> Okay. WIndows lists the NIC as Intel (R) Ethernet Connection (2) I219-V
[23:39] <OerHeks> only  I217/I218  https://downloadcenter.intel.com/download/15817/Intel-Network-Adapter-Driver-for-PCI-E-Gigabit-Network-Connections-under-Linux-?product=71305
[23:41] <JoeyKiwi> Cool
[23:45] <pingwindyktator> hey! Can I find somewhere when did I install my current OS (ubuntu) ?
[23:46] <Arcaire> pingwindyktator: You can!
[23:47] <pingwindyktator> Arcaire, thats great!
[23:47] <Arcaire> Couple ways, the easiest way would probably be something akin to the following command:
[23:47] <Arcaire> sudo dumpe2fs /dev/sda1 | grep 'Filesystem created:'
[23:47] <OerHeks> sudo dumpe2fs /dev/sda1 | grep 'Filesystem created:'  or ls -l /var/log/installer gives a clue
[23:47] <tgm4883>  /var/log/installer seems like a better way to me
[23:48] <pingwindyktator> Arcaire, works, thanks ;)
[23:48] <Arcaire> I opted for the dumpe2fs due to the potential that /var/log may have been cleared on an <x> year old system.
[23:48] <Arcaire> :D
[23:48] <pingwindyktator> In fact, its cleared ;D
[23:49] <OerHeks> sudo ls -alct /|tail -1|awk '{print $6, $7, $8}'
[23:54] <NightHwk> ducasse: When I try to access my network computer. It asks for my  username and password to access as it should. I am put the correct credentials in and it's keep repeating, asking me for my credentials.
[23:55] <NightHwk> Does anyone know how to fix network problem. I was on ubuntu 15.10 and could access my share drive fine on anther computer but once I upgraded to 16.10 it won't take the network credentials
[23:55] <bazhang> NightHwk, 16.10?
[23:56] <OerHeks> NightHwk, seen that, fix could be: remove the wifi profile, check keys&passwords that all entries are gone, and set it up again.
[23:56] <OerHeks> sometimes it is registered double, removing one could fix it too