[19:55] Hello, can someone please enlighten me as to why my upstart script fails when setgid and setuid are uncommented? http://paste.debian.net/706443/ [20:01] do you have permissions to write to all of thoes files with that user? [20:01] chras, aha, probably not. Let me try that. [20:06] chras, that seems to be the problem. Here's the rub, though: I created a system user with limited permissions and I'd like for him to run the service in question. As it happens, he doesn't have access to /var/run, and i'm unsure of the security implications of modifying permissions for /var/run [20:06] Are you able to advise? [20:11] if you're doing your own pid management [20:11] why not just make a subdir in /var/run owned by that user [20:12] chras, hmm yeah that seems like the simple/obvious solution. [20:17] Works like a charm, thanks again!