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yofelclivejo: o/07:25
acheron_ukclivejo: great :)07:48
acheron_ukon plasma-desktop, seems this is no longer needed as applied upstream https://git.launchpad.net/~kubuntu-packagers/kubuntu-packaging/+git/plasma-desktop/tree/debian/patches/upstream_include_cmath_c++_fix.diff?h=kubuntu_unstable07:52
clivejoacheron_uk: https://git.launchpad.net/~kubuntu-packagers/kubuntu-packaging/+git/plasma-desktop/commit/?h=kubuntu_unstable&id=46651e7289f4f20c964d2fd4d81a8ef85c6bba4508:40
* clivejo notices his git commits are still aol.com08:50
* clivejo face palms08:50
acheron_ukcool the patch, not your old addy09:01
acheron_ukthey've also pushed that change to 5.6 branch it seems09:02
clivejoyeah, but old patches prevent source being built09:04
clivejowhich is why KCI is throwing a hissy fit over it!09:04
acheron_ukyeah, I get that09:07
jimarvansaluti09:22
clivejohi jimarvan09:25
BluesKajHowdy folks10:41
IrcsomeBot<Sick_Rimmit> Hi friends 😃11:09
BluesKajHi Sick_Rimmit11:09
IrcsomeBot<Clifford> Hi Rick11:28
IrcsomeBot<Sick_Rimmit> o/11:28
jimarvanHey :)11:56
clivejohi jimarvan12:22
clivejoyuppeeeee12:49
* clivejo dances12:49
clivejoacheron_uk: can you see why - http://kci.pangea.pub/job/yakkety_unstable_kpimtextedit/ - is failing?12:56
clivejohi shadeslayer13:53
shadeslayerHey13:55
clivejois Jon about today?13:56
clivejoall the servers seem to be down13:56
clivejoqa.kubuntu.co.uk, *.neon.kde.org/13:57
clivejoetc13:57
clivejocan anyone explain to me why libkrdccore.so is still in list-missing - https://launchpadlibrarian.net/261645850/buildlog_ubuntu-yakkety-amd64.krdc_4%3A16.04.1-0ubuntu1~ubuntu16.10~ppa7_BUILDING.txt.gz13:59
clivejowhen I have it in not-installed - https://git.launchpad.net/~kubuntu-packagers/kubuntu-packaging/+git/krdc/tree/debian/not-installed?h=kubuntu_yakkety_archive14:00
shadeslayerclivejo: dunno, haven't seen him around14:02
shadeslayerclivejo: though we know about the servers14:03
clivejoshadeslayer: any idea whats wrong?14:04
shadeslayernope, I don't maintain that infra14:04
shadeslayerand I don't have access to it14:04
acheron_ukclivejo: this failure http://paste.ubuntu.com/16733054/15:07
acheron_ukmaybe15:07
clivejoyup15:10
clivejodo you know why its complaining about that?15:10
acheron_ukI need to read up on packaging, but surely that shouldn't be in the libkf5pimtextedit5.install file?15:11
clivejoacheron_uk: yes, take a look at the install file in git15:12
acheron_ukI did https://git.launchpad.net/~kubuntu-packagers/kubuntu-packaging/+git/kpimtextedit/tree/debian/libkf5pimtextedit5.install?h=kubuntu_unstable15:13
clivejodo you see anything strange?15:13
acheron_ukI thought that shoudl just be files rather than the '<<<<<<< HEAD' and other stuff in there15:14
clivejolines 3,5 and 615:14
clivejoyup15:14
acheron_ukyes15:14
clivejothats called a merge marker15:14
clivejobasically someone merged two branches15:14
acheron_ukfigured it was something like that which had snuck in15:15
clivejoand there was a conflict, but didnt resolve it15:15
sitterhow did that get past CI? there's a test for this. or there was one anyway15:15
clivejositter: no idea, maybe got knocked out with the move to LP?15:16
clivejositter: would you have time some day to teach me how KCI works, under the hood?15:16
acheron_ukclivejo: ah. you already knew. sorry. not too long back from a nice extended Friday bank holiday weekend pub lunch, so not 100% with it15:17
clivejoacheron_uk: yes, but I wanted you to know :)15:17
acheron_ukyeah I get that now a brain cell has fired up15:17
clivejocan you resolve the conflict?15:18
sitterclivejo: literally too complicated. you'd best poke and prod it and ask if questions arise you can't figure out15:18
soee_http://famillemontel.org/index.php/2016/05/27/answer-about-akonadi-for-e-mail-needs-to-die-blog/15:18
clivejoI dont want to break it15:18
acheron_uknot even gone near merges yet, so not sure15:18
clivejowell one branch is trying to install a file called kpimtexteditwidgets.so and the other isnt15:19
clivejowhich one is right15:19
clivejoHEAD or kubuntu_stable15:19
clivejoif you look back at the buildlog, you can see the files the build is installing15:20
acheron_ukI'll have to come back to this in a little bit. sorry. 15:23
clivejono problem15:23
clivejojust trying to make you think about it :)15:23
clivejositter: I dont have access to the git where the KCI code is kept?15:24
clivejoIm not a kubuntu-dev15:24
clivejohow can I play with it?15:24
sitterclivejo: become a kubuntu-dev15:26
clivejo:P15:26
clivejositter: do you have access to scaleway to see why the servers are down?15:28
sitternope15:29
sitterclivejo: which server?15:29
clivejohttp://packaging.neon.kde.org, qa.kubuntu.co.uk/ etc15:30
sitterwe'll have to wait for jon15:30
clivejoall the ones at Scalewat15:30
sitterI'd guess out of disk15:30
shadeslayerpackaging.neon is hosted on scaleway?15:31
sitterfor reasons beyond my apprehension this isn't a sponsored server, so I am not monitoring it15:31
clivejoits pointing to 27-246-47-212.rev.cloud.scaleway.com15:32
sittershadeslayer: it's weegie15:32
clivejois it a git server too?>15:33
shadeslayerxD15:34
sitterclivejo: it's numerous things. of which more than half make me uneasy15:36
clivejoyou get uneasy?15:37
sitteroften. in particular when data integrity is at risk!15:38
yofelthe only thing on weegie that made me uneasy was that it was running 'vivid'15:44
yofelwhich was also annoying, but as Jon is the only one with control panel access he should be upgrading that15:45
yofel(which he said he was planning to do a while ago...)15:45
yofelalso, my ISP broke my internet at home 2 days ago and still hasn't fixed it, so I will again just do nothing this weekend15:46
yofelbbl (maybe)15:48
clivejo:(15:52
clivejopoor yofel15:52
acheron_ukclivejo: presumably as kpimtexteditwidgets.so is being built, then should be resolved in favour of the branch with that in?15:56
acheron_ukunstable as far as I can see15:58
=== pavlushka is now known as kryten
=== kryten is now known as Guest62041
=== Guest62041 is now known as pavlushka
geniixenial?18:14
geniioh, unstable 18:14
IrcsomeBot<Clifford> Acheron_uk if you have time and want to, you could fix it and post the git diff18:32
acheron_ukas is correct in the actual files, I would assume that is just removal of the markers then?18:36
acheron_uki.e. http://paste.ubuntu.com/16740685/18:40
acheron_ukor not that simple?18:40
IrcsomeBot<Clifford> I think there are other files with same problem19:09
IrcsomeBot<Clifford> And you should also make a quick note in the changelog19:09
sick_rimmitvalorie: Ping hi hun, you about ?19:15
acheron_ukclivejo: I see no other merge conflict markers, unless you simply mean something built and not in the install file at all 19:31
valoriehi sick_rimmit19:34
valoriesorry I couldn't make it to the dojo19:34
sick_rimmitHey there :-D19:34
sick_rimmitNo worries19:34
valorieI'm hoping you have a video somewhere!19:35
sick_rimmitCould you proof, and edit and article for the website for me please ?19:35
valorieyes19:35
sick_rimmitIt's already drafted, Kubuntu Party 4 The Gathering of the Halflings19:35
sick_rimmitJust needs, grammar, spelling etc...19:35
sick_rimmitand then it can be published19:35
sick_rimmit:-D19:35
sick_rimmitI'm on hols for a week from tomorrow, so I wn't get the DoJo review writtten up until I return19:37
valorieoooo, have fun!19:38
valoriesick_rimmit: not seeing it?19:40
sick_rimmitOh let me have a look 19:41
sick_rimmit2 mins19:41
valoriethere it is, sorry19:41
valorieneed coffee!19:41
sick_rimmitAh perfect19:42
* genii hears the coffee call, and gets valorie a large mug of the Death Wish coffee, just the right temperature for sipping19:48
valorieexcellent!19:51
valoriety19:51
clivejoo/ valorie19:51
geniivalorie: Anytime :)19:53
* valorie has cold brew made from locally roasted beans19:56
clivejocold brew?19:56
sick_rimmitAh it's some funny notion some folks have.. 19:56
* clivejo wonders if its anything like the home brew his neighbour makes19:56
sick_rimmitCan't say I get it myself19:56
valoriegosh, isn't there an easy way to link to a local time given a UTC time & date?19:57
valoriegrrrr19:57
sick_rimmitBrew === HOT!!!19:57
sick_rimmitOh boy... don't talk to me about Date Time19:57
sick_rimmitIt blows my mind19:57
* sick_rimmit tries mostly to run his life UTC19:57
sick_rimmiteven do on the fly conversion to BST / GMT19:58
valoriehttp://linuxgrandma.blogspot.com/2013/09/coffee-and-doctorow.html19:58
sick_rimmitThen twice a year they change it19:58
clivejothats not very difficult!19:58
sick_rimmitvalorie: LOL19:58
sick_rimmitSee what you did there19:58
valoriesick_rimmit: someone has a service that when you click it, converts to local time19:58
valorieI thought it was timeanddate.com19:59
valorienot finding it though19:59
sick_rimmitDojo was good, we signed up 6 new Yellow Belts19:59
yofelyay, my ISP did... something. I got fixed from "no connection at all" to "connection with consistent 30% packet loss" - that's progress... I guess20:00
sick_rimmitAlthough I blew it with loads of Tech Troubles20:00
sick_rimmitBut I will fix that20:00
sick_rimmityofel: It is progress that's for sure20:00
IrcsomeBot<marcinsagol> And I thought Internet here in Poland sucks :)20:02
acheron_ukclivejo: something like that then http://paste.ubuntu.com/16744055/20:03
yofelthis is called "Modern Internet" - like VoIP and stuff. But I guess I just have bad luck since they switched me20:04
clivejoacheron_uk: looks good20:04
clivejoI pulled it a few minutes ago20:05
clivejopushed20:05
* clivejo is getting confused20:05
acheron_ukoh, so you did20:05
clivejoIm drawing a river on OSM20:06
acheron_ukgood good :)20:06
acheron_ukmaps?20:07
clivejoyup20:07
clivejoI’m a bit obsessed !20:07
acheron_ukhandy to know where rivers are20:07
acheron_uksaves accidents20:07
clivejotrue20:07
clivejothis one a bridge fell into it!20:08
acheron_uka few did that in recent years in the UK with the flooding20:08
valoriesick_rimmit: publish?20:08
sick_rimmitvalorie: Yes please :-D20:09
valorieI found the link, and it works for me20:09
valoriedone20:09
valorieplease test20:09
sick_rimmitRoger20:09
sick_rimmitHey brilliant20:13
sick_rimmitThat reads really well, with the exitment building as you read20:13
sick_rimmitThanks valorie20:13
sick_rimmit:-D20:13
clivejoyofel: would you have time to give me a crash course on KCI some day?20:13
clivejothere are a number of new packages need added to it20:14
yofelI fear you have to ask scarlett that. I know none of the CLI commands that are required20:14
clivejodo you have access to the code?20:14
BluesKajheh, I like your pun clivejo , ..crash course20:15
yofelthe CI tooling in use is the one from her github account I believe20:15
yofelbut let me do something else as we're talking about CI20:15
clivejocould we not keep it on LP?20:15
BluesKajwell that's all she wrote .....20:16
yofelI guess we could. The bluesystems code was on GH, so forking it was easiest..20:16
clivejoall who wrote?20:16
yofelyou're a CI admin now20:17
clivejoI am?20:17
yofelat least jenkins UI wise20:17
valorieuse your power wisely20:17
valorie:-)20:17
yofel^20:17
clivejoto take over the world20:17
* clivejo evil laughs20:18
yofelas long as I get some minister post, go ahead :P20:18
valorieto reeeeealy take over the world, ya gotta apply for Kubuntu Devel!20:18
clivejovalorie you are sounding like sitter20:19
valoriesgclark, yofel and sitter have all told you to do it, so......20:19
valorieI just want to watch you squirm in the meeting20:19
clivejoLOL since when have I done what Im told!20:19
valorielol20:19
valorietotally selfish on my part20:19
clivejoyeah, I think thats what sitter wants too20:19
valorieof course!20:20
clivejoask me hard questions and watch me sweat20:20
clivejoso mean!20:20
sick_rimmitIt would be really good to celebrate clivejo becoming a devel in the Dojo.20:20
valoriewhich is why we love him20:20
valorieand you20:20
sick_rimmitIt may sound cheesy, but it would really inspire others :-D20:20
clivejoI want a real party20:21
sick_rimmitThen my friend..20:21
sick_rimmitYou came to the right place :-D20:21
sick_rimmitThat sourt of thing I can fix20:21
clivejomaybe next year20:22
clivejoif Phil goes for his MOTU20:23
clivejoLOL that’s such a flattering screen grab of Marios!20:26
clivejocan you take the hyperlink off the picture, its linking to the back end20:26
sick_rimmithehe20:26
sick_rimmitSure let me look at that20:27
sick_rimmitclivejo: could you check it again, should be fixed20:28
clivejocould you link it to the high res version?20:29
sick_rimmitNope, I don't have a hi-res version20:30
sick_rimmitAh hangon...20:31
sick_rimmitsorry my bad I misunderstood20:31
sick_rimmitlet me look20:31
sick_rimmitAh ha20:35
sick_rimmitTry that20:35
clivejothats better :)20:36
sick_rimmit:-)20:36
sick_rimmitnice!20:36
valorieclivejo, yofel -- I see from the ML that clay has kmymoney packaged in his PPA20:36
valorieany reason we can't release that?20:37
clivejoI dont have the upload rights to release anything20:37
valoriecan you check it over or so?20:37
clivejoopen a bug on the main package to get it upgraded20:38
clivejoand link to it packaged in the PPA20:38
yofeltomorrow maybe20:40
yofelI won't be able to upload it either though20:41
yofelso far that's a debian maintained thing20:42
valorieclaydoh: ^^^20:55
valorieI wonder how many other applications are already packaged in PPAs20:56
clivejoprobably a lot20:59
clivejopeople dont know how to get them into the archive20:59
clivejoso just stick them in a PPA20:59
claydohhey ho valorie Normally, Kmymoney in Debian has been up-to-date when it is imported into Ubuntu so my ppa was more for uppdating it post-release when Kmymoney devs released a new version. So of course after all these years it went right over my head that debian have not updated it as usual. 21:05
valorieah, ok21:05
clivejowow21:06
claydohso I never thought about updating it for Ubuntu release until you mentioned it21:06
clivejoI must be a mind reader21:06
valorieat some point we should perhaps take a look around at all those applications in PPAs and suck them into the archive if they are fit/necessary21:06
valorieinstead of re-doing all that work21:06
sgclarkyeah I don't believe any of us can upload that21:06
sgclarktry to ask shadeslayer nicely after you have checked the package21:07
claydohthe hard part is finding them I think21:07
valorieand those people who are packaging that stuff should be hanging out here, helping us with other stuff maybe!21:07
claydohI mean finding what is outdated but  someone packages for in a ppa21:07
valorieright21:07
sgclarkthere is also kdenlive packages out there that we should have used as the kdenlive devs themsleves did it. I have no idea why folks would not come here and share..21:08
claydohmy brain is frazzled sorry21:08
clivejosgclark: I think I remember when they did come here and asked21:08
sgclarkah cool21:09
sgclarkgood to know21:09
clivejodecided it was easier to just use a PPA21:09
claydoholder dudes should not work in warehouses doing young mens' work, nor should they get engaged :021:10
sgclarkah bummer21:10
sgclarkwhy not? older chicks do21:10
claydohactually the latter is a lie, ring shopping is kinda fun if you don't look at prices21:10
claydohwe can't handle the stresses yall can we are weaker21:11
sgclarkoh thought we were talking packaging haha21:11
claydohlol maybe that too21:12
sgclarkanyway I went from 0 to 2 jobs, I don't know that I will have much time for here :( will try when I can. Life is a bit crazy for me atm.21:12
valoriewe may need to rebuild kde-spectacle for YY: 21:12
valorie$ aptitude why-not libkf5screen621:12
valoriei   libkf5screen-bin Depends libkf5screen7 (>= 4:5.6.3)21:13
valoriei A libkf5screen7    Breaks  libkf5screen621:13
clivejoit was rebuilt21:13
valorieit got uninstalled and I can't re-install21:13
clivejoin staging I think21:13
valorieah21:13
valorieI removed staging21:13
clivejoyofel did it as far as I can remember21:13
valorieshould I add it again?21:13
valorieand which one21:13
valoriefor YY21:13
clivejostaging-plasma I think its in21:14
clivejobut my memory is bad!21:14
clivejovalorie: fancy testing apps ?21:14
valorieis it still breaking things?21:15
valorieI could try with my "old" laptop21:15
clivejoI think its stablish21:16
valorieso if staging plasma is all good, how come we don't upload the stuff to archive?21:16
* valorie has been running on staging stuff for weeks with no problems21:16
valoriealthough there were updates last night and I haven't restarted yet21:17
sgclarkI thought that was one of the last things I did? upload plasma that is21:18
clivejosome of it is stuff in proposed21:18
sgclarkshould only be apps left21:18
clivejostuck21:18
sgclarkah : /21:18
clivejowell all the important bits!21:19
valorieI guess we just have to wait on proposed21:23
valoriebut at least we are on it well in advance this round21:23
clivejowhy does LP start throwing these errors21:52
valoriewhen shall we have our annual Kubuntu meeting at QtCon this year?22:16
valorieI want to figure out schedules so I can request funding22:16

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