[07:25] clivejo: o/ [07:48] clivejo: great :) [07:52] on plasma-desktop, seems this is no longer needed as applied upstream https://git.launchpad.net/~kubuntu-packagers/kubuntu-packaging/+git/plasma-desktop/tree/debian/patches/upstream_include_cmath_c++_fix.diff?h=kubuntu_unstable [08:40] acheron_uk: https://git.launchpad.net/~kubuntu-packagers/kubuntu-packaging/+git/plasma-desktop/commit/?h=kubuntu_unstable&id=46651e7289f4f20c964d2fd4d81a8ef85c6bba45 [08:50] * clivejo notices his git commits are still aol.com [08:50] * clivejo face palms [09:01] cool the patch, not your old addy [09:02] they've also pushed that change to 5.6 branch it seems [09:04] yeah, but old patches prevent source being built [09:04] which is why KCI is throwing a hissy fit over it! [09:07] yeah, I get that [09:22] saluti [09:25] hi jimarvan [10:41] Howdy folks [11:09] Hi friends 😃 [11:09] Hi Sick_Rimmit [11:28] Hi Rick [11:28] o/ [11:56] Hey :) [12:22] hi jimarvan [12:49] yuppeeeee [12:49] * clivejo dances [12:56] acheron_uk: can you see why - http://kci.pangea.pub/job/yakkety_unstable_kpimtextedit/ - is failing? [13:53] hi shadeslayer [13:55] Hey [13:56] is Jon about today? [13:56] all the servers seem to be down [13:57] qa.kubuntu.co.uk, *.neon.kde.org/ [13:57] etc [13:59] can anyone explain to me why libkrdccore.so is still in list-missing - https://launchpadlibrarian.net/261645850/buildlog_ubuntu-yakkety-amd64.krdc_4%3A16.04.1-0ubuntu1~ubuntu16.10~ppa7_BUILDING.txt.gz [14:00] when I have it in not-installed - https://git.launchpad.net/~kubuntu-packagers/kubuntu-packaging/+git/krdc/tree/debian/not-installed?h=kubuntu_yakkety_archive [14:02] clivejo: dunno, haven't seen him around [14:03] clivejo: though we know about the servers [14:04] shadeslayer: any idea whats wrong? [14:04] nope, I don't maintain that infra [14:04] and I don't have access to it [15:07] clivejo: this failure http://paste.ubuntu.com/16733054/ [15:07] maybe [15:10] yup [15:10] do you know why its complaining about that? [15:11] I need to read up on packaging, but surely that shouldn't be in the libkf5pimtextedit5.install file? [15:12] acheron_uk: yes, take a look at the install file in git [15:13] I did https://git.launchpad.net/~kubuntu-packagers/kubuntu-packaging/+git/kpimtextedit/tree/debian/libkf5pimtextedit5.install?h=kubuntu_unstable [15:13] do you see anything strange? [15:14] I thought that shoudl just be files rather than the '<<<<<<< HEAD' and other stuff in there [15:14] lines 3,5 and 6 [15:14] yup [15:14] yes [15:14] thats called a merge marker [15:14] basically someone merged two branches [15:15] figured it was something like that which had snuck in [15:15] and there was a conflict, but didnt resolve it [15:15] how did that get past CI? there's a test for this. or there was one anyway [15:16] sitter: no idea, maybe got knocked out with the move to LP? [15:16] sitter: would you have time some day to teach me how KCI works, under the hood? [15:17] clivejo: ah. you already knew. sorry. not too long back from a nice extended Friday bank holiday weekend pub lunch, so not 100% with it [15:17] acheron_uk: yes, but I wanted you to know :) [15:17] yeah I get that now a brain cell has fired up [15:18] can you resolve the conflict? [15:18] clivejo: literally too complicated. you'd best poke and prod it and ask if questions arise you can't figure out [15:18] http://famillemontel.org/index.php/2016/05/27/answer-about-akonadi-for-e-mail-needs-to-die-blog/ [15:18] I dont want to break it [15:18] not even gone near merges yet, so not sure [15:19] well one branch is trying to install a file called kpimtexteditwidgets.so and the other isnt [15:19] which one is right [15:19] HEAD or kubuntu_stable [15:20] if you look back at the buildlog, you can see the files the build is installing [15:23] I'll have to come back to this in a little bit. sorry. [15:23] no problem [15:23] just trying to make you think about it :) [15:24] sitter: I dont have access to the git where the KCI code is kept? [15:24] Im not a kubuntu-dev [15:24] how can I play with it? [15:26] clivejo: become a kubuntu-dev [15:26] :P [15:28] sitter: do you have access to scaleway to see why the servers are down? [15:29] nope [15:29] clivejo: which server? [15:30] http://packaging.neon.kde.org, qa.kubuntu.co.uk/ etc [15:30] we'll have to wait for jon [15:30] all the ones at Scalewat [15:30] I'd guess out of disk [15:31] packaging.neon is hosted on scaleway? [15:31] for reasons beyond my apprehension this isn't a sponsored server, so I am not monitoring it [15:32] its pointing to 27-246-47-212.rev.cloud.scaleway.com [15:32] shadeslayer: it's weegie [15:33] is it a git server too?> [15:34] xD [15:36] clivejo: it's numerous things. of which more than half make me uneasy [15:37] you get uneasy? [15:38] often. in particular when data integrity is at risk! [15:44] the only thing on weegie that made me uneasy was that it was running 'vivid' [15:45] which was also annoying, but as Jon is the only one with control panel access he should be upgrading that [15:45] (which he said he was planning to do a while ago...) [15:46] also, my ISP broke my internet at home 2 days ago and still hasn't fixed it, so I will again just do nothing this weekend [15:48] bbl (maybe) [15:52] :( [15:52] poor yofel [15:56] clivejo: presumably as kpimtexteditwidgets.so is being built, then should be resolved in favour of the branch with that in? [15:58] unstable as far as I can see === pavlushka is now known as kryten === kryten is now known as Guest62041 === Guest62041 is now known as pavlushka [18:14] xenial? [18:14] oh, unstable [18:32] Acheron_uk if you have time and want to, you could fix it and post the git diff [18:36] as is correct in the actual files, I would assume that is just removal of the markers then? [18:40] i.e. http://paste.ubuntu.com/16740685/ [18:40] or not that simple? [19:09] I think there are other files with same problem [19:09] And you should also make a quick note in the changelog [19:15] valorie: Ping hi hun, you about ? [19:31] clivejo: I see no other merge conflict markers, unless you simply mean something built and not in the install file at all [19:34] hi sick_rimmit [19:34] sorry I couldn't make it to the dojo [19:34] Hey there :-D [19:34] No worries [19:35] I'm hoping you have a video somewhere! [19:35] Could you proof, and edit and article for the website for me please ? [19:35] yes [19:35] It's already drafted, Kubuntu Party 4 The Gathering of the Halflings [19:35] Just needs, grammar, spelling etc... [19:35] and then it can be published [19:35] :-D [19:37] I'm on hols for a week from tomorrow, so I wn't get the DoJo review writtten up until I return [19:38] oooo, have fun! [19:40] sick_rimmit: not seeing it? [19:41] Oh let me have a look [19:41] 2 mins [19:41] there it is, sorry [19:41] need coffee! [19:42] Ah perfect [19:48] * genii hears the coffee call, and gets valorie a large mug of the Death Wish coffee, just the right temperature for sipping [19:51] excellent! [19:51] ty [19:51] o/ valorie [19:53] valorie: Anytime :) [19:56] * valorie has cold brew made from locally roasted beans [19:56] cold brew? [19:56] Ah it's some funny notion some folks have.. [19:56] * clivejo wonders if its anything like the home brew his neighbour makes [19:56] Can't say I get it myself [19:57] gosh, isn't there an easy way to link to a local time given a UTC time & date? [19:57] grrrr [19:57] Brew === HOT!!! [19:57] Oh boy... don't talk to me about Date Time [19:57] It blows my mind [19:57] * sick_rimmit tries mostly to run his life UTC [19:58] even do on the fly conversion to BST / GMT [19:58] http://linuxgrandma.blogspot.com/2013/09/coffee-and-doctorow.html [19:58] Then twice a year they change it [19:58] thats not very difficult! [19:58] valorie: LOL [19:58] See what you did there [19:58] sick_rimmit: someone has a service that when you click it, converts to local time [19:59] I thought it was timeanddate.com [19:59] not finding it though [19:59] Dojo was good, we signed up 6 new Yellow Belts [20:00] yay, my ISP did... something. I got fixed from "no connection at all" to "connection with consistent 30% packet loss" - that's progress... I guess [20:00] Although I blew it with loads of Tech Troubles [20:00] But I will fix that [20:00] yofel: It is progress that's for sure [20:02] And I thought Internet here in Poland sucks :) [20:03] clivejo: something like that then http://paste.ubuntu.com/16744055/ [20:04] this is called "Modern Internet" - like VoIP and stuff. But I guess I just have bad luck since they switched me [20:04] acheron_uk: looks good [20:05] I pulled it a few minutes ago [20:05] pushed [20:05] * clivejo is getting confused [20:05] oh, so you did [20:06] Im drawing a river on OSM [20:06] good good :) [20:07] maps? [20:07] yup [20:07] I’m a bit obsessed ! [20:07] handy to know where rivers are [20:07] saves accidents [20:07] true [20:08] this one a bridge fell into it! [20:08] a few did that in recent years in the UK with the flooding [20:08] sick_rimmit: publish? [20:09] valorie: Yes please :-D [20:09] I found the link, and it works for me [20:09] done [20:09] please test [20:09] Roger [20:13] Hey brilliant [20:13] That reads really well, with the exitment building as you read [20:13] Thanks valorie [20:13] :-D [20:13] yofel: would you have time to give me a crash course on KCI some day? [20:14] there are a number of new packages need added to it [20:14] I fear you have to ask scarlett that. I know none of the CLI commands that are required [20:14] do you have access to the code? [20:15] heh, I like your pun clivejo , ..crash course [20:15] the CI tooling in use is the one from her github account I believe [20:15] but let me do something else as we're talking about CI [20:15] could we not keep it on LP? [20:16] well that's all she wrote ..... [20:16] I guess we could. The bluesystems code was on GH, so forking it was easiest.. [20:16] all who wrote? [20:17] you're a CI admin now [20:17] I am? [20:17] at least jenkins UI wise [20:17] use your power wisely [20:17] :-) [20:17] ^ [20:17] to take over the world [20:18] * clivejo evil laughs [20:18] as long as I get some minister post, go ahead :P [20:18] to reeeeealy take over the world, ya gotta apply for Kubuntu Devel! [20:19] valorie you are sounding like sitter [20:19] sgclark, yofel and sitter have all told you to do it, so...... [20:19] I just want to watch you squirm in the meeting [20:19] LOL since when have I done what Im told! [20:19] lol [20:19] totally selfish on my part [20:19] yeah, I think thats what sitter wants too [20:20] of course! [20:20] ask me hard questions and watch me sweat [20:20] so mean! [20:20] It would be really good to celebrate clivejo becoming a devel in the Dojo. [20:20] which is why we love him [20:20] and you [20:20] It may sound cheesy, but it would really inspire others :-D [20:21] I want a real party [20:21] Then my friend.. [20:21] You came to the right place :-D [20:21] That sourt of thing I can fix [20:22] maybe next year [20:23] if Phil goes for his MOTU [20:26] LOL that’s such a flattering screen grab of Marios! [20:26] can you take the hyperlink off the picture, its linking to the back end [20:26] hehe [20:27] Sure let me look at that [20:28] clivejo: could you check it again, should be fixed [20:29] could you link it to the high res version? [20:30] Nope, I don't have a hi-res version [20:31] Ah hangon... [20:31] sorry my bad I misunderstood [20:31] let me look [20:35] Ah ha [20:35] Try that [20:36] thats better :) [20:36] :-) [20:36] nice! [20:36] clivejo, yofel -- I see from the ML that clay has kmymoney packaged in his PPA [20:37] any reason we can't release that? [20:37] I dont have the upload rights to release anything [20:37] can you check it over or so? [20:38] open a bug on the main package to get it upgraded [20:38] and link to it packaged in the PPA [20:40] tomorrow maybe [20:41] I won't be able to upload it either though [20:42] so far that's a debian maintained thing [20:55] claydoh: ^^^ [20:56] I wonder how many other applications are already packaged in PPAs [20:59] probably a lot [20:59] people dont know how to get them into the archive [20:59] so just stick them in a PPA [21:05] hey ho valorie Normally, Kmymoney in Debian has been up-to-date when it is imported into Ubuntu so my ppa was more for uppdating it post-release when Kmymoney devs released a new version. So of course after all these years it went right over my head that debian have not updated it as usual. [21:05] ah, ok [21:06] wow [21:06] so I never thought about updating it for Ubuntu release until you mentioned it [21:06] I must be a mind reader [21:06] at some point we should perhaps take a look around at all those applications in PPAs and suck them into the archive if they are fit/necessary [21:06] instead of re-doing all that work [21:06] yeah I don't believe any of us can upload that [21:07] try to ask shadeslayer nicely after you have checked the package [21:07] the hard part is finding them I think [21:07] and those people who are packaging that stuff should be hanging out here, helping us with other stuff maybe! [21:07] I mean finding what is outdated but someone packages for in a ppa [21:07] right [21:08] there is also kdenlive packages out there that we should have used as the kdenlive devs themsleves did it. I have no idea why folks would not come here and share.. [21:08] my brain is frazzled sorry [21:08] sgclark: I think I remember when they did come here and asked [21:09] ah cool [21:09] good to know [21:09] decided it was easier to just use a PPA [21:10] older dudes should not work in warehouses doing young mens' work, nor should they get engaged :0 [21:10] ah bummer [21:10] why not? older chicks do [21:10] actually the latter is a lie, ring shopping is kinda fun if you don't look at prices [21:11] we can't handle the stresses yall can we are weaker [21:11] oh thought we were talking packaging haha [21:12] lol maybe that too [21:12] anyway I went from 0 to 2 jobs, I don't know that I will have much time for here :( will try when I can. Life is a bit crazy for me atm. [21:12] we may need to rebuild kde-spectacle for YY: [21:12] $ aptitude why-not libkf5screen6 [21:13] i libkf5screen-bin Depends libkf5screen7 (>= 4:5.6.3) [21:13] i A libkf5screen7 Breaks libkf5screen6 [21:13] it was rebuilt [21:13] it got uninstalled and I can't re-install [21:13] in staging I think [21:13] ah [21:13] I removed staging [21:13] yofel did it as far as I can remember [21:13] should I add it again? [21:13] and which one [21:13] for YY [21:14] staging-plasma I think its in [21:14] but my memory is bad! [21:14] valorie: fancy testing apps ? [21:15] is it still breaking things? [21:15] I could try with my "old" laptop [21:16] I think its stablish [21:16] so if staging plasma is all good, how come we don't upload the stuff to archive? [21:16] * valorie has been running on staging stuff for weeks with no problems [21:17] although there were updates last night and I haven't restarted yet [21:18] I thought that was one of the last things I did? upload plasma that is [21:18] some of it is stuff in proposed [21:18] should only be apps left [21:18] stuck [21:18] ah : / [21:19] well all the important bits! [21:23] I guess we just have to wait on proposed [21:23] but at least we are on it well in advance this round [21:52] why does LP start throwing these errors [22:16] when shall we have our annual Kubuntu meeting at QtCon this year? [22:16] I want to figure out schedules so I can request funding