[05:21] <hikiko> hi
[05:42] <happyaron> seb128: network broken since last night... now on 4G connection...
[05:42] <happyaron> the operator is sending someone to fix it
[05:43] <seb128> hey happyaron, ok, good luck with that!
[06:15] <seb128> happyaron, it means you couldn't work on the nm updates/get them ready? or are you doing that on your mobile internet?
[06:17] <happyaron> seb128: doing now, was expecting they get my internet fix in the morning, but appears to be something a bit complex to fix so I gave up to wait
[06:17] <seb128> k
[07:01] <mpt> charles, tiheum: I noticed that the (pastebinned) indicator-power code doesn’t use the “generic box” icons I suggested for unknown charging devices. It would be a lot easier to put lightning+level in a plain rectangle shape, most phones nowadays are pretty much rectangles anyway, and that would prevent the unknown icon from showing up in future for anything that wasn’t a battery or phone.
[07:47] <willcooke> hey ho
[07:48] <duflu> let's go
[07:48] <duflu> Which I think is the opening line to https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=wWZu6NWJkHw
[07:49] <duflu> Nope, it's "let go"
[07:56] <willcooke> :)
[07:57] <happyaron> finally back online
[07:58] <willcooke> hey happyaron, what happened?
[07:59] <happyaron> willcooke: lost connectivity last night
[07:59] <willcooke> ouch
[07:59] <willcooke> happyaron, good job you got that 3G modem ;))
[08:00] <happyaron> yep, :)
[08:00] <seb128> hey willcooke! pre-emptive hey to Laney who should be there in a few minutes ;-)
[08:00] <willcooke> morning seb128
[08:01] <willcooke> seb128, I'm trying to snap a Qt app.
[08:01] <willcooke> that I know very little about.
[08:01] <willcooke> Well, I know how to use it
[08:01] <willcooke> but not how to build it
[08:01] <willcooke> so job #1 - try and build it normally
[08:01] <willcooke> and find out what the deps are
[08:01] <seb128> willcooke, that's dedication from Aron, he damaged his dsl line to force test nm on 3g ;-)
[08:02] <willcooke> seb128, :D
[08:02] <seb128> willcooke, good luck with the snap!
[08:02] <seb128> you are building from source then, not from the deb?
[08:02] <happyaron> haha
[08:02] <willcooke> seb128, yeah
[08:03] <seb128> Laney, happy friday!
[08:03] <seb128> (9:03, /me takes a guess Laney is turning IRC on ;-)
[08:04] <Laney> I was thinking about trolling you and staying quiet
[08:04] <willcooke> BOOM!
[08:04] <Laney> only managed to do it for 2 minutes
[08:04] <seb128> lol
[08:04] <seb128> scnr ;-)
[08:04] <seb128> how are you?
[08:05] <seb128> how was the micro pub?
[08:06] <happyaron> looks debian dropped the dependency for nm-openconnect deliberately  https://anonscm.debian.org/cgit/collab-maint/network-manager-openconnect.git/commit/?id=68f776799a52ff74b5dfd27b85288061b24cfeb6
[08:06] <happyaron> seb128: ^^
[08:06] <seb128> happyaron, yeah, it's fine for y, but SRU should have the minimal required changeset to fix the issue
[08:06] <seb128> so cleanup should stay out of it
[08:06] <seb128> or if you include some such changes they should at least be documented in the changelog
[08:07] <seb128> otherwise the SRU team has no way to know it's intentional
[08:07] <Laney> I'm good, we went to a call vegetarian restaurant before going to the pub which was nice
[08:07] <happyaron> ok
[08:07] <Laney> home made ice cream and pie for dessert :3
[08:07] <happyaron> ic
[08:07] <Laney> the pub had a man playing really loud guitar and singing
[08:07] <Laney> was better after he stopped
[08:08] <seb128> was he good at least?
[08:08] <Laney> think it was the owner of the pub so that explains why he got the slot ;-)
[08:08] <seb128> we went out for dinner yesterday to an italian restaurant
[08:08] <seb128> was nice until they decided to push the music volume at 9pm
[08:09] <seb128> I had when places do that
[08:09] <Laney> bah
[08:09] <seb128> had->hate
[08:09] <Laney> trying to make you leave?
[08:09] <seb128> I don't know why they do it
[08:09] <seb128> making a more evening/party atmosphere maybe
[08:09] <seb128> or maybe don't want people to stay over too long
[08:09] <seb128> but it's annoying
[08:10] <Laney> yeah :(
[08:10] <Laney> at least you know this place does this now for the future
[08:11] <seb128> right
[08:11] <seb128> the food was good but the staff not the nice
[08:11] <seb128> I'm not sure they are going to see us again...
[08:18] <Laney> consumer power!
[08:18] <seb128> :-)
[08:22] <willcooke> seb128, don't think you saw last night:  http://imgur.com/a/jACV7
[08:22] <seb128> willcooke, I did, just read backlog before closing IRC so didn't comment, thanks for testing!
[08:23] <willcooke> seb128, yw!  Thanks for getting a fix arranged so quickly
[08:23] <seb128> yw
[08:23] <seb128> the menu alignment thing is a bit unfortunate
[08:23] <seb128> but it's still better than the missing icon
[08:23] <willcooke> yeah
[08:23] <willcooke> oh, btw, did we get anywhere with software-updater popping up?
[08:24] <willcooke> s/we/you ;)
[08:24] <seb128> willcooke, I put a merge request up yesterday, waiting on review from mvo or somebody else feeling like commenting
[08:24] <willcooke> nice one, thanks
[08:24] <seb128> willcooke, https://code.launchpad.net/~seb128/update-notifier/logs-no-ctime/+merge/295806
[08:25] <seb128> willcooke, I think I managed to get on top of my bugs/SRU queue so today I can really do snap&MIR work
[08:26] <willcooke> seb128, \m/ awesome
[08:26] <seb128> well saying that but I'm doing a round of SRU-from-proposed install atm
[08:26] <seb128> just to help verifying some
[08:26] <seb128> we have libreoffice/glib/gvfs there to test
[08:26] <willcooke> seb128, I started with a qt app because there is a cmake plugin for snapcraft which might make things easier, plus I'm using mhall119 's krita yaml to help me
[08:27] <willcooke> and there is a nice qt5 launcher script that puts all the hacks in one place
[08:27] <seb128> good
[08:27] <seb128> it's also useful to test several toolkits
[08:32] <willcooke> seb128, I've looked at the diff and the full update.c file and I think it's correct - is there any value in me adding a comment / review?
[08:33] <seb128> willcooke, yes, we still want mvo/somebody who maintains it to ack if possible, but if they have no cycle for that we might just go with what we have ;-)
[08:33] <seb128> still good to have some sanity check
[08:34] <desrt> yawn
[08:34] <willcooke> hey desrt, early start today
[08:34] <willcooke> wait, late finish perhaps
[08:34] <desrt> more like failed all nighter :p
[08:34] <willcooke> heh
[08:35] <desrt> trying to relive the glory of the good old days.... not so easy past 30
[08:35] <desrt> path munging is looking good tho
[08:35] <willcooke> nice on!
[08:35] <willcooke> e
[08:35] <desrt> gonna go take a *cough* "nap"
[08:36] <willcooke> good plan, catch you (much) later
[08:36] <willcooke> no more coffee
[08:36] <desrt> good morning :D
[08:37] <seb128> desrt, good "night"? ;-)
[08:40] <willcooke> seb128, what does "review type" mean in LP?
[08:42] <seb128> willcooke, it's optional but it to hint what sort of review you did, typical use is to write "design"
[08:42] <seb128> or "packaging"
[08:42] <seb128> if you reviewed only the UI or the packaging changes
[08:42] <willcooke> thx
[08:42] <seb128> yw!
[09:34] <seb128> happyaron, got your email, I'm looking to it, thanks ;-)
[09:49] <seb128> lunch first in fact
[09:49] <seb128> bbiab
[12:01] <Sweet5hark> https://launchpad.net/ubuntu/+source/snapcraft <- does this look broken/incomplete for others? Im missing half the UI there ...
[12:01] <Sweet5hark> ... just seeing some icons
[12:01] <seb128> Sweet5hark, wfm
[12:02] <seb128> do other launchpad pages work for you?
[12:03] <Sweet5hark> seb128: nope, same. just a few icons sprinkled over the screen ...
[12:04] <seb128> restart your browser?
[12:06] <Sweet5hark> seb128: heh, that helped. ;)
[12:07] <seb128> :-)
[12:07] <seb128> blame qengho or chrisccoulson, depending of your browser of choice!
[12:08] <chrisccoulson> not my fault ;)
[12:08] <chrisccoulson> I haven't even used firefox for ages
[12:08] <seb128> hey chrisccoulson! how are you?
[12:08] <chrisccoulson> seb128, yeah, not too bad thanks. And you?
[12:08] <seb128> I'm good thanks!
[12:09] <seb128> it's friday ;-)
[12:09] <chrisccoulson> fry-day :)
[12:09] <seb128> lol
[12:09] <seb128> chrisccoulson, btw did you see my question about firefox/mimetype so weeks ago on #ubuntu-devel?
[12:09] <ogra_> yummy
[12:09] <seb128> just curious if you knew offhand
[12:10] <seb128> not looking for you to debug it don't worry :-)
[12:10] <chrisccoulson> seb128, I don't know offhand, although I could probably figure it out if I spent some time looking at it
[12:11] <seb128> don't bother, it's probably just me being annoyed
[12:11] <seb128> ideally launchpad would fix their mimetype info
[12:12] <seb128> it's just weird that the open dialog has the right mimetype as a label
[12:12] <seb128> but uses the handler from the wrong one
[12:12] <seb128> which is the one sent by the server it seems
[12:12] <seb128> but it's nothing new
[12:12] <seb128> just annoying to not be able to open .xz from launchpad directly
[12:12] <seb128> need to save them and open from nautilus
[12:14]  * Sweet5hark blames chrisccoulson anyway.
[12:15] <Sweet5hark> Its Friday after all!
[12:15] <chrisccoulson> heh
[12:20]  * willcooke debugging broken .pro files.  yay
[12:20] <willcooke> food time
[12:23] <seb128> willcooke, enjoy
[12:37] <mhall119> willcooke: just don't take my example as a gold standard, I'm still learning as I go :)
[12:43] <willcooke> mhall119, yours got me started, thank you very much
[12:43] <willcooke> mhall119, but now I'm fighting ftbfs
[12:43] <willcooke> and hardcoded paths in pro files
[12:44] <willcooke> O_o
[12:44] <mhall119> fun
[12:45] <mhall119> I was at least lucky that my targets all had good build configs that "just work"
[12:46] <willcooke> this one is a mess
[12:46] <willcooke> but hey, it's all good learning
[13:07] <qengho> Wow, got my first launchpad bug-report spam.
[13:07] <seb128> hey qengho, happy friday!
[13:08] <seb128> those are not that common which is good
[13:08] <qengho> If you guys need a packer and mover in Hyderabad, I can tell you who is too rude to choose. Just sayin'.
[13:15] <willcooke> :D:D
[13:33] <seb128> happyaron, still around?
[14:03] <andyrock> hey guys
[14:07] <seb128> hey andyrock! how are you?
[14:07] <andyrock> hey seb128 finally finished most of the university things till september
[14:07] <seb128> nice!
[14:07] <andyrock> this month has been the worst of my life :D
[14:07] <andyrock> and you?
[14:09] <seb128> I'm doing well thanks!
[14:09] <seb128> having fun debugging snaps and fcitx
[14:19] <ricotz> hey desktopers!
[14:19] <ricotz> Sweet5hark, so?
[14:21] <seb128> hey ricotz!
[14:23] <ricotz> seb128, hey
[14:29] <charles> mpt, are the "generic box" icons already in the ubuntu icon set?
[14:29] <happyaron> seb128: back from swimming pool
[14:29] <happyaron> what's up?
[14:35] <seb128> happyaron, do you know how fcitx applications talk to the service? I'm trying to figure out why fcitx doesn't work in confined snaps
[14:35] <seb128> I copied .config/fcitx over
[14:35] <seb128> and there is no apparmor deny
[14:35] <seb128> it works in --devmode
[14:35] <happyaron> seb128: what do you mean by fcitx applications?
[14:35] <seb128> sorry gtk apps through the fcitx immodule
[14:35] <seb128> e.g gedit
[14:36] <seb128> with sunpinyn im configure
[14:36] <seb128> it works fine on my session and in --devmode snap
[14:36] <seb128> just not when confined
[14:36] <seb128> I'm trying to figure out what part needs to be open
[14:36] <happyaron> gtk im modules + dbus
[14:36] <seb128> k, I guess it's dbus being the issue
[14:36] <seb128> just weird that I don't see that in apparmor denies
[14:37] <seb128> does it use a private bus?
[14:37] <happyaron> it uses a private dbus
[14:37] <happyaron> yep
[14:37] <seb128> the one defined in .config/fcitx/dbus?
[14:37] <happyaron> should be one of them in that path
[14:38] <happyaron> I have 12 files after running for 8 days, but only one of them is active
[14:38] <seb128> k, I've only one
[14:39] <happyaron> and for communications among some components, it uses a protocol wrapped using sockets (but not dbus unfortunately)
[14:40] <happyaron> that's used by stuff like fcitx-ui-qimpanel to communicate with the daemon
[14:40] <seb128> what is weird is that it works in devmode without .config/fcitx
[14:40] <seb128> so I guess it doesn't need that to find the private bus
[14:40] <happyaron> it will start a new one if the previous does not work
[14:40] <seb128> or doesn't need to private bus to display the gtk UI with the suggestions
[14:41] <happyaron> I don't think there's a gtk ui
[14:41] <seb128> well there is a popover with the suggestions
[14:41] <seb128> unsure what is providing it
[14:41] <seb128> but it's there in --devmode
[14:41] <happyaron> k
[14:41] <seb128> happyaron, thanks for the replies
[14:41] <happyaron> ;-)
[14:41] <seb128> happyaron, enjoy your friday evening and w.e!
[14:42] <happyaron> same!
[14:42] <seb128> sorry to bother you with my questions on a friday night
[14:42] <seb128> thanks!
[14:42] <happyaron> haha np
[14:49] <mpt> charles, sorry, I have no idea
[14:49] <mpt> Ask tiheum or larapinto when they’re back
[15:34] <ricotz> Sweet5hark, ping
[15:39] <seb128> ricotz, you might just ask your question
[15:39] <ricotz> seb128, he knows the question
[15:39] <seb128> well others don't and might be able to help you
[15:46] <ricotz> seb128, it's about libreoffice 5.2
[15:46] <seb128> ah
[15:46] <seb128> that's not a priority atm
[15:46] <seb128> lts work + snap
[15:46] <seb128> I think that's not going to be uploaded before a while
[15:48] <ricotz> seb128, I talked to him yesterday and have prepared a testing package, but he asked me the hold it back in favour of his upload
[15:48] <willcooke> yes, please hold of a little while until we can get the snap tidied up
[15:49] <willcooke> ricotz, let's have a sync up on this next week, if you can spare 10 mins?
[15:49] <ricotz> this is not a snap package
[15:49] <ricotz> simply a plain package for the pre-release ppa
[15:49] <ricotz> not the archive or whatever
[15:50] <willcooke> indeed, but we would like to get people on board with the snap package as a better way of getting 5.2
[15:51] <ricotz> so why is there no communication about it in my direction?
[15:51] <willcooke> hence the sync up next week
[15:51] <ricotz> I asked him several times yesterday
[15:51] <willcooke> he's been super busy, sorry
[15:52] <ricotz> this lack of communication is quite annoying then
[15:53] <ricotz> would have been a single statement to his yesterdays response
[15:54] <seb128> it's easy to do when you have an established plan you are in charge of
[15:55] <seb128> less so when you have been asked to do things in a way and so requirements are not well defined yet/changing
[15:55] <seb128> don't be harsh with him, he's just in the middle of changes of plans and try to keep everybody happy
[15:59] <ricotz> seb128, I see
[16:01] <willcooke> ricotz, let's you me and Sweet5hark find a few mins next week to have a quick sync up on snaps etc
[16:02] <ricotz> willcooke, any logs about current decisions or plans?
[16:03] <willcooke> ricotz, dont think so - we're still working out a plan.  So you can have input
[16:07] <ricotz> willcooke, hmm, ok
[16:23] <seb128> willcooke, want some fun?
[16:23] <willcooke> seb128, lolnope
[16:23] <seb128> willcooke, http://paste.ubuntu.com/16735530/
[16:23] <seb128> it's the ~80 sources we need to MIR for uinity8
[16:23] <seb128> unity
[16:23] <willcooke> oh man
[16:23] <willcooke> Monday!
[16:23] <seb128> lol
[16:24] <seb128> nice from you to work on a bank holiday
[16:24] <seb128> that's the spirit!
[16:24] <willcooke> DAMN IT
[16:25] <willcooke> got to take Boy#1 to swimming lessons in a mo
[16:25] <willcooke> then I'm going to try and get this snap package built
[16:25] <willcooke> but.... next week, I will make a start on that list
[16:25] <willcooke> and try to have it done by EOW
[16:27] <seb128> :-)
[16:31] <seb128> willcooke, shorter list, no recommends (we can start without those) + removed the ones that were in main and got demoted, http://paste.ubuntu.com/16735785/
[16:31] <seb128> that's 60
[16:31] <seb128> still quite some work
[16:32] <seb128> willcooke, imho we should put in an etherpad and dispatch a bit, also got in order
[16:32] <seb128> like start from leaf ones
[16:36] <seb128> brb, session restart without fctix, it's behaving weird
[17:04] <Laney> night!
[17:05] <seb128> night Laney!
[17:05] <seb128> have a good w.e
[17:40] <Sarvatt> hmm, volume up/down keys stopped repeating on my thinkpad after the latest unity/compiz updates
[17:42] <seb128> there is a fix to prevent those bouncing
[17:42] <seb128> so you can't DoS the system by sitting on the screenshot key
[17:42] <seb128> worth reporting a regression if that's impacting normal use
[17:42] <seb128> Trevinho, andyrock, willcooke, ^
[17:42] <willcooke> works here, so might not be the same thing
[17:44] <Sarvatt> willcooke: restarted the session yet after updating? I only noticed after a reboot
[17:44] <willcooke> Sarvatt, oh, could be.  Will try once this build is done
[17:48] <Sarvatt> oh what the heck, forgot to disable proposed after verifying another SRU, no wonder. should I mention it on the existing bug or file a new one?
[17:49] <Sarvatt> https://bugs.launchpad.net/ubuntu/+source/unity/+bug/1572241
[17:56] <willcooke> on that one please
[17:56] <willcooke> Trevinho, fyi ^
[19:18] <willcooke> my snap is building.  night all