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| lotuspsychje | good morning to all | 03:32 |
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| lotuspsychje | http://www.theregister.co.uk/2016/05/26/microsoft_clarifies_upgrade_trick/ | 03:39 |
| Bashing-om | lotuspsychje: Up before the birds ? Had your cuppa tea ? | 03:40 |
| lotuspsychje | oh no, i forgot lol | 03:41 |
| lotuspsychje | i need coffee :p | 03:41 |
| Bashing-om | coffee is good . | 03:42 |
| ducasse | morning, all | 06:27 |
| BluesKaj | Howdy folks | 10:41 |
| ducasse | morning :) | 10:41 |
| BluesKaj | Hi ducasse | 10:46 |
| ducasse | everything good? it's really quiet in here today :) | 10:46 |
| BluesKaj | good here, how about there? | 10:49 |
| ducasse | quiet :) | 10:49 |
| EriC^^ | ducasse: hey man | 11:20 |
| ducasse | hi, EriC^^ | 11:20 |
| EriC^^ | what's up? | 11:21 |
| ducasse | not much, looking for prices on cpu coolers | 11:21 |
| EriC^^ | cool | 11:22 |
| ducasse | also looking at disks for my nfs servers, hgst looks good. they have a good reputation. | 11:26 |
| EriC^^ | cool | 11:28 |
| EriC^^ | wanna work a little on the ppa-purge thing? | 11:28 |
| ducasse | don't know how much i have to contribute, i'm not a developer... | 11:29 |
| EriC^^ | neither am i.. | 11:30 |
| ducasse | hmm, ppa-purge is just a bash script, shouldn't be too hard to add what's needed... | 11:31 |
| EriC^^ | it is? | 11:31 |
| ducasse | look at /usr/sbin/ppa-purge | 11:31 |
| EriC^^ | i think it works via launchpad though only, let's see | 11:31 |
| ducasse | it does, but the infrastructure is all there. | 11:31 |
| BluesKaj | I thought ppa-purge was meant for non LP ppas since most of the ppa packages there eventually end up in the the backport repos. | 11:33 |
| BluesKaj | or am I mistaken ....again :-) | 11:34 |
| ducasse | oh, no, there's *lots* of stuff on lp that never gets into the repos at all. and ppa-purge only handles lp. | 11:35 |
| EriC^^ | it's pretty concise, 200lines | 11:35 |
| BluesKaj | ok ducasse thanks for the info | 11:37 |
| EriC^^ | ok it first gets the list of packages from the pc itself from /var/lib/apt/lists/ppa*_Packages | 11:37 |
| ducasse | EriC^^: the easiest might be to add an option to specify a .list file that contains a repo to purge... | 11:38 |
| EriC^^ | then gets the list of packages to revert to | 11:38 |
| EriC^^ | yeah | 11:39 |
| EriC^^ | i think we dont need to modify it even | 11:39 |
| ducasse | then it wouldn't be hard to parse which package list to read in /var/lib/apt/lists | 11:40 |
| EriC^^ | if we pass it the arguments it takes export $PPAHOST=.... ppa-purge | 11:40 |
| EriC^^ | it might work i think | 11:40 |
| EriC^^ | this is what it uses PPA_LIST=/var/lib/apt/lists/${PPAHOST}_${PPAOWNER}_${PPANAME}_*_Packages | 11:40 |
| EriC^^ | this is what's in my apt/lists/ for google repo dl.google.com_linux_chrome_deb_dists_stable_main_binary-amd64_Packages | 11:41 |
| EriC^^ | and this is what's in the sources.list.d/.list deb [arch=amd64] http://dl.google.com/linux/chrome/deb/ stable main | 11:41 |
| ducasse | [arch...] is rarely used. | 11:42 |
| EriC^^ | yeah just google mainly | 11:42 |
| ducasse | DIST can also vary from the actual distribution codename, some use 'stable', for example. | 11:43 |
| EriC^^ | ok so basically if somebody wants to remove a ppa with a link we just tell him to get the name from /var/lib/apt/lists | 11:44 |
| EriC^^ | and construct $PPAHOST and $PPAOWNER and $PPANAME so they match that _Packages file | 11:44 |
| EriC^^ | let me try with google to see how it goes | 11:44 |
| EriC^^ | here $PPAHOST=dl.google.com $PPAOWNER=linux_chrome_deb $PPANAME=dists_stable_main | 11:46 |
| EriC^^ | i did sudo ppa-purge -s dl.google.com -o linux_chrome_deb -p dists_stable_main | 11:48 |
| EriC^^ | "PPA purged successfully" | 11:49 |
| EriC^^ | seems to have worked! | 11:49 |
| ducasse | brilliant, i wonder if it will work with the suse-hosted repos, they use a weird setup. | 11:50 |
| EriC^^ | it should i guess | 11:51 |
| ducasse | seems it does :) | 11:52 |
| EriC^^ | :) | 11:52 |
| ducasse | ooops, killed the wireless here :) | 11:55 |
| ducasse | it would be nice to just have ppa-purge construct the right line if given a .list file, though. | 11:56 |
| EriC^^ | yeah i was just thinking that | 11:57 |
| EriC^^ | maybe a one liner that splits it into 3 pieces | 11:57 |
| EriC^^ | bla_bla_bla_bla_bla-bla-bla_Packages need to translate to -s bla_bla -o ... -p .. | 11:58 |
| * ducasse digs out "mastering regular expressions" again :) | 11:59 | |
| EriC^^ | hehe | 11:59 |
| ducasse | i suck at regexps | 11:59 |
| EriC^^ | same here | 11:59 |
| EriC^^ | this is pretty complicated | 11:59 |
| EriC^^ | there's an ugly way to do it i guess, get the last one, then one before the _ then the whole rest | 12:00 |
| ducasse | it's probably easiest to just cheat and parse it in three passes to get the parameters, but that's a hack. | 12:01 |
| ducasse | ninja'd :) | 12:01 |
| EriC^^ | it'll end up like this ppa-purge -s dl.google.com_linux_chrome_deb -o stable -p main | 12:01 |
| EriC^^ | hehe | 12:01 |
| EriC^^ | or the opposite really, was thinking we need to remove the last binary-amd64 thing first | 12:02 |
| ducasse | sure. | 12:03 |
| ducasse | trying to grok the sed lines in ppa-purge, some of it is new to me. | 12:08 |
| EriC^^ | we could use the .list file | 12:10 |
| EriC^^ | i'm unsure of the format though, it's pretty much there though | 12:10 |
| EriC^^ | deb [arch=amd64] http://dl.google.com/linux/chrome/deb/ stable main | 12:10 |
| EriC^^ | main and stable are there and the whole link is there | 12:11 |
| EriC^^ | but are they always like that? http://link something somethingelse | 12:11 |
| DJones | BluesKaj: Didn't know you spoke japanese :) Nice catch in #u | 12:15 |
| ducasse | look at this: | 12:15 |
| ducasse | deb http://download.opensuse.org/repositories/home:/Horst3180/xUbuntu_15.10/ / | 12:16 |
| DJones | A person of many talents :) | 12:16 |
| BluesKaj | DJones, I don't , it's just a guess ;-0 | 12:16 |
| EriC^^ | ducasse: wow | 12:16 |
| EriC^^ | ducasse: that's pretty out there :D | 12:16 |
| DJones | Heh, random characters then, or google translate7 | 12:16 |
| EriC^^ | ducasse: what does the _Package file look like? | 12:16 |
| ducasse | hang on, brb | 12:17 |
| BluesKaj | nope just subbed the chatroooms and server where they might fit | 12:17 |
| EriC^^ | ducasse: i did it in a really ugly way | 12:36 |
| EriC^^ | var=$(echo dl.google.com_linux_chrome_deb_dists_stable_main_binary-amd64_Packages | rev | cut -d_ -f3- | rev); PPAHOST=$(echo $var | cut -d_ -f1); PPAOWNER=$(echo $var | cut -d_ -f2); PPANAME=$(echo $var | cut -d_ -f3-) | 12:36 |
| ducasse | great, i'm still fiddling with sed :) | 12:40 |
| pauljw | Hi everyone | 14:02 |
| lotuspsychje | good afternoon to all | 14:03 |
| pauljw | hi lotuspsychje | 14:03 |
| lotuspsychje | hey pauljw | 14:03 |
| pauljw | :) | 14:03 |
| lotuspsychje | anyone knows what that rss icon is called: http://www.omgubuntu.co.uk/wp-content/uploads/2016/05/color-picker-tool-for-linux-desktops-750x417.png | 14:08 |
| BluesKaj | Hey pauljw | 14:12 |
| lotuspsychje | hi BluesKaj | 14:13 |
| pauljw | hi BluesKaj :) | 14:13 |
| BluesKaj | hey lotuspsychje , rss in kde has the same icon , akregator is all i can find about the name in kde | 14:15 |
| lotuspsychje | BluesKaj: didnt agregator has the glasses also in the icon? | 14:16 |
| * BluesKaj dons his glasses for a closer look ;) | 14:17 | |
| BluesKaj | yup | 14:17 |
| BluesKaj | it does here | 14:18 |
| lotuspsychje | :p | 14:18 |
| lotuspsychje | hmm perhaps the guy added it via a ppa | 14:18 |
| lotuspsychje | hi proc | 14:19 |
| === nacc_ is now known as nacc | ||
| lotuspsychje | hi EriC^^ | 15:19 |
| EriC^^ | hey lotuspsychje | 15:19 |
| EriC^^ | any luck ducasse? | 15:22 |
| nacc | (my) morning all! | 15:23 |
| ducasse | EriC^^: sorry, been eating dinner, just finished :) | 15:23 |
| EriC^^ | oh, cool :) | 15:23 |
| lotuspsychje | hi nacc and ducasse | 15:24 |
| EriC^^ | hi nacc | 15:24 |
| ducasse | hi, lotuspsychje, started training for the new job yet? :) | 15:25 |
| lotuspsychje | ducasse: thuesday :p | 15:27 |
| ducasse | i'm thinking of getting this for a firewall: http://routerboard.com/RB2011iL-RM | 15:27 |
| EriC^^ | the perfect typo | 15:28 |
| EriC^^ | can't know if you hit the h by mistake or e instead of r | 15:29 |
| EriC^^ | thursday i guess though? | 15:29 |
| lotuspsychje | tuesday :p | 15:30 |
| EriC^^ | ah | 15:30 |
| lotuspsychje | i get a 2 weeks course first | 15:30 |
| lotuspsychje | payed | 15:30 |
| EriC^^ | cool | 15:31 |
| ducasse | best kind of training :) | 15:31 |
| lotuspsychje | :p | 15:33 |
| EriC^^ | me and ducasse were trying to make ppa-purge that can use links we modified ppa-purge in the end so it can take links and use them | 15:33 |
| EriC^^ | ppa=dl.google.com_linux_chrome_deb_dists_stable_main_binary-amd64_Packages; var=$(echo $ppa | rev | cut -d_ -f3- | rev); sudo ppa-purge -s $(echo $var | cut -d_ -f1) -o $(echo $var | cut -d_ -f2) -p $(echo $var | cut -d_ -f3-) | 15:33 |
| lotuspsychje | oO wow | 15:34 |
| EriC^^ | you put instead of dl.google... the ppa name from /var/lib/apt/lists/ppa....._Package | 15:34 |
| lotuspsychje | cool | 15:34 |
| EriC^^ | ducasse is working on a shorter and more elegant sed version | 15:34 |
| ducasse | hope i can get it to work, sed is hard. | 15:35 |
| ducasse | EriC^^: i've been looking at the script to figure out how to add an option to use a link, need to read a few man pages :) | 15:39 |
| ducasse | i've been thinking it might be cleaner to rewrite the whole thing in python, though. split it up into smaller functions, modularize it a bit, it would be easier to extend or work on in the future. | 15:41 |
| EriC^^ | sure why not | 15:42 |
| EriC^^ | i like to see it check if other packages that depend on the ppa stuff will break and warn about that, i dont think it does that, was kind of surprised | 15:43 |
| ducasse | that's the kind of thing i was thinking of, it would make it easier to add things like that... | 15:44 |
| ducasse | _or_ we could do something like this: https://github.com/mufc4martin/ppaag/blob/master/ppaag - just a wrapper around ppa-purge. | 15:45 |
| EriC^^ | yeah that would be nice too | 15:46 |
| EriC^^ | could even make one that lists the ppa's and the user can select which to remove (i have a weird obsession with making menu's in the cli) | 15:47 |
| EriC^^ | just like | 15:50 |
| EriC^^ | [1] dl.google.chrome | 15:50 |
| EriC^^ | [2] something.else | 15:50 |
| ducasse | ncurses type thing? :) | 15:50 |
| EriC^^ | nothing fancy, nah :) | 15:50 |
| ducasse | that would just require parsing every .list file in /etc/apt/sources.list.d and list the repos so they can be toggled on/off. or something like that. | 15:53 |
| nacc | EriC^^: yeah, i'm kind of surprised ppa-purge doesn't have a 'dry-run' mode | 15:53 |
| nacc | although i spend so much time in git, i also wonder why everything doesn't have a ~ 'add -i mode and then a commit mode | 15:54 |
| EriC^^ | hehe | 15:56 |
| nacc | it makes too much sense to 'stage' changes | 15:56 |
| ducasse | the debian devs were talking about adding a rollback/undo function to apt, i'm still hoping that happens... | 15:56 |
| nacc | ducasse: nice! that would be good | 15:56 |
| nacc | i guess for ubuntu, snaps is the plan there | 15:56 |
| * nacc still doesn't fully understand the interplay between .debs and snaps -- will have to learn | 15:57 | |
| ducasse | apt will still be there for a long time yet, i think. | 15:57 |
| nacc | yeah | 15:57 |
| nacc | well, if for no other reason then it is sync'ing from debian :) | 15:57 |
| ducasse | and tbh, the day ubuntu strays too far from debian, i'll switch back to straight sid :) | 15:58 |
| lotuspsychje | nacc: snap find in terminal :p | 15:59 |
| lotuspsychje | sudo snap install yoursnap | 15:59 |
| * nacc learns from lotuspsychje | 15:59 | |
| lotuspsychje | nacc: i think the unity team wants the same security model as ubuntu-touch in the future | 16:00 |
| lotuspsychje | locked down apps/snaps that cant harm the base system | 16:01 |
| nacc | lotuspsychje: ack, 'convergence' | 16:02 |
| lotuspsychje | and mark leaving us the choice between 2 worlds | 16:02 |
| lotuspsychje | unity7/xorg/debs or unity8/mir/snaps | 16:02 |
| EriC^^ | i'm installing unity8 right now | 16:03 |
| EriC^^ | i wanna give it a test run | 16:03 |
| lotuspsychje | EriC^^: last time i tried it crashed for me on xenial | 16:03 |
| lotuspsychje | not sure how it runs on yakkety these days | 16:03 |
| EriC^^ | nice, apt has a progress bar | 16:04 |
| lotuspsychje | apt is fantastic isnt it | 16:04 |
| EriC^^ | it's depressing me, i didn't know packages take this long to install | 16:05 |
| lotuspsychje | depends wich ones | 16:05 |
| EriC^^ | lol, if it takes long apt should keep it to itself | 16:05 |
| EriC^^ | i think unity8 comprises of a million small packages that's why | 16:05 |
| EriC^^ | it reached GET 100+ while fetching stuff, they're all pretty small too | 16:06 |
| lotuspsychje | :p | 16:06 |
| EriC^^ | reached them very quickly, i just have 1mb/sec max | 16:06 |
| lotuspsychje | apt vs windows updates..i know wich to choose! | 16:06 |
| lotuspsychje | !info unity8 | 16:07 |
| ubot5 | unity8 (source: unity8): Unity 8 shell. In component universe, is optional. Version 8.12+16.04.20160401-0ubuntu1 (xenial), package size 4605 kB, installed size 6409 kB | 16:07 |
| lotuspsychje | !info unity yakkety | 16:07 |
| ubot5 | unity (source: unity): Interface designed for efficiency of space and interaction.. In component main, is optional. Version 7.5.0+16.10.20160525-0ubuntu1 (yakkety), package size 1578 kB, installed size 6804 kB | 16:07 |
| lotuspsychje | oops | 16:07 |
| EriC^^ | ok moment of truth | 16:07 |
| EriC^^ | brb | 16:07 |
| lotuspsychje | !info unity8 yakkety | 16:07 |
| ubot5 | unity8 (source: unity8): Unity 8 shell. In component universe, is optional. Version 8.12+16.10.20160520.1-0ubuntu1 (yakkety), package size 4605 kB, installed size 6432 kB | 16:07 |
| ducasse | checked my machines for removed packages wit residual config earlier today, the list was terrifying. to get rid of them, run this: dpkg -l | grep ^rc | awk '{print $2}' | xargs /usr/bin/sudo /usr/bin/dpkg --purge | 16:12 |
| ducasse | *with | 16:12 |
| lotuspsychje | wb | 16:15 |
| EriC^^ | thx | 16:15 |
| lotuspsychje | siema grzegorz | 16:15 |
| EriC^^ | it's kind of shitty | 16:15 |
| lotuspsychje | EriC^^: still alot of work isnt it | 16:16 |
| EriC^^ | the mouse feels funny, didn't have a launcher | 16:16 |
| lotuspsychje | hmm, launcher should be there | 16:16 |
| EriC^^ | just a window that said browser, and store, and check apps, browser doesn't open store pretty much empty | 16:16 |
| EriC^^ | the notification in the top is like windows 10, if you click on wifi it opens a huge black bar to the bottom of the screen and you can click on other stuff like power etc to switch between them too | 16:17 |
| lotuspsychje | yep | 16:17 |
| lotuspsychje | sounds still the same as when it came out | 16:17 |
| EriC^^ | i did like the busy sign while the browser was loading, kind of silly but it's a nice touch | 16:18 |
| lotuspsychje | i really wonder if they will get it right on time for yakkety release.. | 16:18 |
| ducasse | you guys usually run unity? | 16:18 |
| EriC^^ | it was like 3 dots swirling and you can see the 3 dots, sort of like the ubuntu logo i think | 16:18 |
| lotuspsychje | ducasse: im a unity fan indeed | 16:19 |
| EriC^^ | i doubt for yakkety | 16:19 |
| ducasse | lotuspsychje: unity 8 will _never_ be finished for yakkety. no chance in hell. | 16:19 |
| EriC^^ | it seemed empty | 16:19 |
| EriC^^ | and the mouse feels really funny, like graphics are odd, i guess it's the mir | 16:19 |
| lotuspsychje | ducasse: i like the fact that unity is ease for noob machines also | 16:20 |
| EriC^^ | ducasse: yes i use unity too | 16:20 |
| lotuspsychje | my 76y old father never got it crashed yet | 16:20 |
| ducasse | lotuspsychje: i can agree with that. if i were to set up a machine for a newbie, i would probably use mate or xfce, though. | 16:21 |
| lotuspsychje | ducasse: well, i also like xubuntu but i prefer only on older boxes | 16:21 |
| EriC^^ | i thought it was odd when i first got ubuntu that it had no menu | 16:21 |
| lotuspsychje | ducasse: as some stuff on xubuntu isnt as simple as unity | 16:21 |
| ducasse | lotuspsychje: my desktop used to be xubuntu, but i've switched all of them to i3 by now. light on resources and fast :) | 16:22 |
| lotuspsychje | i should probably test it also :p | 16:23 |
| OerHeks | i use unity, else i end up with unused ram | 16:23 |
| lotuspsychje | ducasse: but i3 isnt really for noobs right | 16:23 |
| lotuspsychje | OerHeks: lol | 16:23 |
| ducasse | lotuspsychje: no, that's true. it's a different way of using a gui. | 16:24 |
| lotuspsychje | and tweaked, unity is fast as rocket aswell | 16:24 |
| lotuspsychje | thats the good news of xenial under the hood | 16:24 |
| lotuspsychje | faster boot/shutdown/dash and systemd | 16:25 |
| ducasse | lotuspsychje: it has gl-accelerated almost everything, doesn't it? | 16:25 |
| lotuspsychje | yeah | 16:25 |
| EriC^^ | time to fix unity | 16:25 |
| lotuspsychje | lol | 16:25 |
| EriC^^ | lol something called mediascanner is going through my ext hdd like nuts using cpu | 16:25 |
| EriC^^ | cpu 93'c | 16:26 |
| ducasse | EriC^^: it can probably be disabled. | 16:27 |
| lotuspsychje | oO | 16:27 |
| EriC^^ | looks like a service or something | 16:27 |
| lotuspsychje | not sure if its wise to disable | 16:27 |
| EriC^^ | it says mediascanner-ex and mediascanner-se | 16:28 |
| ducasse | EriC^^: looks like it just indexes media files for easy/fast search. | 16:29 |
| lotuspsychje | !info mediascanner | 16:29 |
| ubot5 | Package mediascanner does not exist in xenial | 16:29 |
| lotuspsychje | https://bugs.launchpad.net/ubuntu/+source/mediascanner2/+bug/1294303 | 16:30 |
| ubot5 | Launchpad bug 1294303 in mediascanner2 (Ubuntu) "Mediascanner-service-2 process is killing HD and consumes lot of CPU" [Medium,Fix released] | 16:30 |
| lotuspsychje | !info mediascanner2 | 16:30 |
| ubot5 | Package mediascanner2 does not exist in xenial | 16:30 |
| EriC^^ | !find mediascanner-ex | 16:30 |
| ubot5 | File mediascanner-ex found in mediascanner2.0 | 16:30 |
| ducasse | !info mediascanner2.0 | 16:30 |
| ubot5 | mediascanner2.0 (source: mediascanner2): Media scanner package. In component universe, is optional. Version 0.111+16.04.20160317-0ubuntu1 (xenial), package size 90 kB, installed size 357 kB | 16:30 |
| lotuspsychje | ah tnx | 16:30 |
| ducasse | look at apt show's description :) | 16:31 |
| ducasse | "This package provides the media scanner service." | 16:31 |
| ducasse | :) | 16:31 |
| EriC^^ | it seems it was installed by unity8 | 16:31 |
| ducasse | that's not very informative :) | 16:32 |
| EriC^^ | i think i should better remove everything it installed | 16:32 |
| ducasse | unity8 is just for devs at this point. | 16:33 |
| EriC^^ | yeah | 16:33 |
| lotuspsychje | purge yep | 16:33 |
| EriC^^ | i think i'm screwed though, the list has dbus i think and other stuff | 16:34 |
| lotuspsychje | let em play around for a bit | 16:34 |
| ducasse | EriC^^: it won't remove anything in use by other parts of the system. | 16:34 |
| ducasse | at least, it shouldn't. | 16:34 |
| lotuspsychje | lol | 16:34 |
| EriC^^ | yeah i mean if i remove the actual list from history.log | 16:34 |
| EriC^^ | let me try to uninstall the metapackage and try autoremove | 16:35 |
| EriC^^ | nice | 16:35 |
| ducasse | EriC^^: that's the recommended way (metapackage + autoremove) | 16:35 |
| EriC^^ | metapackage 55kb disk space will be freed | 16:36 |
| EriC^^ | autoremove, | 16:36 |
| ducasse | autoremove will take the rest. | 16:36 |
| EriC^^ | 1 point 6 mega bytes | 16:36 |
| EriC^^ | lol, i'm doomed now | 16:37 |
| lotuspsychje | lol | 16:37 |
| * ducasse wonders whether to order the mikrotik box or not... | 16:37 | |
| EriC^^ | i had written a script once that takes 1 de and another de and tries to completely remove it while keeping the first de and it's packages | 16:38 |
| EriC^^ | it wasn't very reliable though, it used apt-rdepends and debfoster to get the list and stuff so i never really used it or recommended it to anyone | 16:38 |
| lotuspsychje | ducasse: i hear good things on pfsense, sure you want to spend money on the hardware? | 16:38 |
| EriC^^ | http://paste.ubuntu.com/16736101 | 16:39 |
| ducasse | lotuspsychje: my pfsense box died, new hardware for that would be more expensive. | 16:39 |
| ducasse | i need new hardware either way. | 16:39 |
| lotuspsychje | ducasse: ah | 16:39 |
| lotuspsychje | ducasse: ##hardware or #netfilter guys might give you hints on it? | 16:40 |
| ducasse | i asked in ##mikrotik, and for my needs this box should have good performance. i really want something that is "set up and forget" and regularly patched. | 16:41 |
| EriC^^ | i might be able to use /var/log/dpkg.log to get the new packages it actually installed | 16:41 |
| ducasse | EriC^^: autoremove _should_ get everything, possibly except packages that fulfill recommends: or suggests: of other installed packages. | 16:42 |
| EriC^^ | ducasse: nah it doesn't remove much | 16:43 |
| EriC^^ | it literally rmoved 1.6mb of packages | 16:43 |
| EriC^^ | like 4-6 or so, it installed like a 100 | 16:43 |
| EriC^^ | mir this mir that | 16:44 |
| EriC^^ | i just need to know if history.log will show packages that are already on the system or not | 16:44 |
| ducasse | EriC^^: yes, it will show you exactly what was installed. | 16:45 |
| ducasse | EriC^^: this is why the debian devs wants 'apt undo' | 16:46 |
| EriC^^ | this is what it installed http://termbin.com/6q35 | 16:47 |
| EriC^^ | ducasse: yeah, arch has had it for a long time, pacman with recursive remove | 16:47 |
| ducasse | oh, $deity, so many firefox tabs! i'm a monster! | 16:48 |
| ducasse | ;) | 16:48 |
| EriC^^ | that's why i tried to make that de removal script | 16:48 |
| EriC^^ | everybody installs another de to try it and they can't remove the extra packages later | 16:48 |
| EriC^^ | it doesn't work though, debfoster somehow recommended pastebinit to be removed, it showed up as a dependency in xubuntu | 16:49 |
| EriC^^ | and not in unity | 16:49 |
| EriC^^ | i'll try it on my pc just to see the list it gives and maybe diff it with that one | 16:49 |
| EriC^^ | it gave a very tiny list | 16:52 |
| EriC^^ | http://termbin.com/3eqi | 16:52 |
| EriC^^ | i had made it very conservative in the end, it uses debfoster also also apt-rdepends and takes the minimum, it's not really accurate and nice though | 16:53 |
| ducasse | hmmm, no suggestions from me, i'm afraid. | 16:54 |
| EriC^^ | history.log is my only hope | 16:54 |
| EriC^^ | that program sucks, nobody should ever use it | 16:55 |
| EriC^^ | the script i mean | 16:55 |
| EriC^^ | anyways i'll try to remove the metapackage, and uninstall one random package from it, and see what history.log looks like after i try to reinstall the metapackage | 16:55 |
| lotuspsychje | bbl dinner | 16:57 |
| EriC^^ | cool, history.log only lists the newly installed one, not the metapackage contents | 16:57 |
| ducasse | EriC^^: probably the best way to go. | 16:57 |
| ducasse | EriC^^: you might also look at the relevant entry in term.log | 16:59 |
| EriC^^ | yeah that's also a good idea | 16:59 |
| EriC^^ | forgot about that | 17:00 |
| ducasse | the developers of apt have trouble with handling this properly, so don't be sad your script is not perfect :) | 17:02 |
| ducasse | EriC^^: ^^ | 17:02 |
| EriC^^ | hehe :) | 17:06 |
| EriC^^ | ok done removing the packages, time to see if it'll reboot | 17:06 |
| EriC^^ | :D | 17:06 |
| EriC^^ | brb | 17:06 |
| EriC^^ | seems still working | 17:09 |
| Switches | EriC^^: That's a bonus then | 17:10 |
| EriC^^ | :D | 17:10 |
| ducasse | EriC^^: good, but unity8 is gone? | 17:10 |
| EriC^^ | yeah i think so | 17:10 |
| EriC^^ | i used the list from history.log and used sed to remove the things between () | 17:11 |
| EriC^^ | then xargs -a list sudo apt-get purge | 17:11 |
| EriC^^ | oh man | 17:12 |
| EriC^^ | i tried apt install <unity8 package> to see the size it's going to say that it's going to install, it said 130mb | 17:12 |
| EriC^^ | i think it said something like 52mb before | 17:12 |
| EriC^^ | lol can someone run sudo apt install unity8-desktop-session-mir | 17:13 |
| EriC^^ | then cancel it when it asks to continue or not? just check the size it says after install | 17:13 |
| EriC^^ | oh ok, it says need to get 32mb i think that's what i glimpsed before | 17:13 |
| EriC^^ | would appreciate the check though! | 17:13 |
| pauljw | mine says 33mb | 17:16 |
| EriC^^ | to be downloaded? or additional space will be used? | 17:17 |
| ducasse | mine says 298mb :) | 17:17 |
| pauljw | to be downloaded, 131mb additional EriC^^ | 17:17 |
| EriC^^ | pauljw: ah ok, cool | 17:17 |
| ducasse | (additional. 90mb to be downloaded) | 17:18 |
| EriC^^ | it's like mine, you're using unity? | 17:18 |
| pauljw | i'm using unity, yes. | 17:19 |
| ducasse | mine isn't. | 17:19 |
| EriC^^ | ok, cool, thanks guy :) | 17:19 |
| EriC^^ | *guys | 17:19 |
| pauljw | :) | 17:19 |
| ducasse | BluesKaj: maybe we should move the sound discussion here, instead of cluttering up #ubuntu? | 17:41 |
| BluesKaj | well, I would but I still have my back lawn to cut ;-) | 17:42 |
| BluesKaj | BBIAB | 17:42 |
| ducasse | :) | 17:44 |
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