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| Lenovo_ | hi | 04:47 |
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| Lenovo_ | I am having trouble installing Ubuntu touch on a Lenovo A8-50 or samsung galaxy tablet | 04:48 |
| Lenovo_ | On the Lenovo I have unlocked the OEM, on the Samsung I cannot unlock it | 04:49 |
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| kaisoz | hi! | 08:32 |
| duflu | Hello kaisoz | 08:35 |
| duflu | greyback: I suspect (actually can measure) much of our remaining dash performance issues are CPU bound. Anyone looking into that side yet? | 08:35 |
| greyback | duflu: I believe that is on tsdgeos' plate | 08:36 |
| duflu | Cool. I know it's impractical to collect CPU profile data on a phone, but it is possible. | 08:36 |
| duflu | I haven't done it in a while | 08:36 |
| duflu | Kind of requires a binary that will run without needing interaction | 08:37 |
| tsdgeos | it's on my plate yeah, i'm first still working on the metrics reporting | 08:37 |
| tsdgeos | but eventually will get there | 08:37 |
| duflu | tsdgeos: I've had luck with valgrind --tool=callgrind in the past. Collect data on a phone and then visualize on desktop with kcachegrind | 08:38 |
| duflu | Also try Google Profiler (the only free one that can accurately measure time wasted in the sleeping state) | 08:39 |
| duflu | Although you can start using just desktop | 08:44 |
| popey | duflu: greyback had some tools he demo'd at the desktop sprint in prague. dunno if you're already aware of them. SoC specific ones IIRC | 08:46 |
| greyback | duflu: for Qt apps, we can use a power profiler tool in QtCreator | 08:47 |
| greyback | popey refers to other tools I found, which profile the entire device CPU & GPU, and help you see what's going on in the whole system | 08:48 |
| duflu | I'm trying to avoid mentioning Q* things as it's entirely possible our problems are simpler than that | 08:48 |
| greyback | duflu: sure, but you were referring to the Dash | 08:48 |
| greyback | duflu: I wrote up guide on a nice profiling tool for Mali, DS-5, here: https://wiki.ubuntu.com/Touch/GPU%20profiling/Mali | 08:49 |
| ogra_ | popey, how is your battery life on the pro5 ? (i have the feeling mine doesnt properly go to sleep, i lose about 50% over night (rc-proposed)) | 08:57 |
| popey | ogra_: mine's charged a lot of the time | 09:27 |
| popey | or on charge | 09:27 |
| ogra_ | ah, i only charge mine when it tells me to | 09:28 |
| ogra_ | (and unplug when it is full) | 09:28 |
| popey | last full charge 24 hours ago, now at 69% | 09:28 |
| popey | oh, it was off overnight 😃 | 09:28 |
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| brunch875 | I'm wondering... why stuff like snaps when you can confine with groups and reading permissions? | 10:14 |
| brunch875 | there's more to it, isn't there? | 10:14 |
| ogra_ | brunch875, try #snappy ;) | 10:19 |
| brunch875 | I'm afraid I might get lit up from asking these sort of questions :Þ | 10:20 |
| ogra_ | nah | 10:20 |
| ogra_ | nobody bites over there (at least everyone pretends not to :) ) | 10:21 |
| svij | they only tend to nibble (especially that ogra_ guy) | 10:23 |
| ogra_ | haha | 10:23 |
| brunch875 | I just used phone to flirt huehue | 11:22 |
| brunch875 | utouch++ | 11:22 |
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| jdstrand | popey: hi! I'm going through the reviewers queue and clearing out things/getting questions answered. would you mind looking at permy though? its security policy did not change | 13:00 |
| mterry | oSoMoN, heyo! What's the plan for building webbrowser-app on arm64? | 13:36 |
| ogra_ | hmm, so my miracast adapters arrived ... seems my session crashes when i disable the external display | 13:36 |
| oSoMoN | mterry, the plan is to first have oxide build on arm64 | 13:36 |
| mterry | ogra_, why would you ever want to disable such a beautiful thing | 13:36 |
| mterry | oSoMoN, is there a rough ETA on that? | 13:36 |
| ogra_ | and the fonts are super blurry (my moniotor says it gets 1080p60 ... though that m,ight only be from the adapter) | 13:36 |
| mterry | oSoMoN, like next month, next week, etc | 13:36 |
| ogra_ | mterry, yeah, when making a call for example ;) | 13:36 |
| peat-psuwit | Are there any event that's propagate to Android container when booting is done? | 13:37 |
| ogra_ | bahm and two-finger-scrolling is completely broken ... goes into the wrong direction | 13:37 |
| ogra_ | peat-psuwit, only the other way round IIRc | 13:37 |
| jdstrand | popey: thanks! | 13:37 |
| ogra_ | (teh container listens to ueventd and sends an event to upstart once it is done ) | 13:38 |
| peat-psuwit | ogra_: No property set? Like, when unity finish starting up? | 13:41 |
| ogra_ | i dont think we seed anything into the container, no, we need it completely running for most of the graphical bits | 13:42 |
| ogra_ | so it has to be done even before lightdm starts the UI session | 13:42 |
| ogra_ | (and lightdm waits fro the event from the container ... see its upstart override job) | 13:43 |
| peat-psuwit | ogra_: Ok. I'm trying to mimic this event: "on property:init.svc.bootanim=stopped" in Android init. I guess I have to create an Upstart job to do that. | 13:44 |
| ogra_ | err | 13:45 |
| ogra_ | that would be long before anything in ubuntu started up | 13:46 |
| oSoMoN | mterry, that’s tracked by bug #1582638 , see the comments in there | 13:46 |
| ubot5 | bug 1582638 in Oxide "Fails to build from source on arm64" [Critical,Triaged] https://launchpad.net/bugs/1582638 | 13:46 |
| ogra_ | peat-psuwit, but yeah, you can easily put that into a unity8.override post-start script snippet | 13:46 |
| oSoMoN | mterry, more in the "next month" ballpark | 13:46 |
| ogra_ | peat-psuwit, just make sure the android boot finishes fully ... | 13:46 |
| mterry | oSoMoN, ok thanks! | 13:47 |
| ogra_ | peat-psuwit, i.e. you cant really block the container boot on this else you produce a deadlock | 13:47 |
| peat-psuwit | ogra_: I'm not sure I understand you correctly. | 13:51 |
| ogra_ | peat-psuwit, do youo want to make the android container boot block until this property is set ? | 13:52 |
| ogra_ | (this wouldnt work since the container must be done booting for lightdm to start) | 13:52 |
| peat-psuwit | ogra_: No, not at all. It's kind of post boot adjustment for CPU governor and such. | 13:53 |
| ogra_ | ah, well, then you should just be able to use setprop from either the lightdm or unity8 upstart jobs | 13:53 |
| ogra_ | (i think lightdm would be easier since that doesnt run as the user ... though a bit early perhaps) | 13:54 |
| peat-psuwit | ogra_: Ok. Thank you, then. | 14:04 |
| mardy | dobey: hi! About your comment on https://code.launchpad.net/~mardy/ubuntuone-credentials/signon-plugin-part2/+merge/293217 | 14:48 |
| mardy | dobey: SSOService::login() is (in the core currently on the images) calling Keyring::storeToken() after the authentication succeeds, | 14:49 |
| mardy | dobey: and the latter creates the account (if not already present) | 14:49 |
| mardy | dobey: the signon-plugin takes care of storing the token only, but it has no knowledge of accounts | 14:49 |
| mardy | dobey: so that dance with the Accounts::Manager to create the account must still be done somewhere | 14:50 |
| dobey | yes i know how it works currently | 14:50 |
| dobey | the account should already be created in the qml plug-in afaik | 14:51 |
| dobey | mardy: doesn't libsignon or libaccounts already have some way to flag the credentials as being invalid for an account? or is the oauth plug-in just hitting the respective server every time the account is requested by an app? | 14:52 |
| mardy | dobey: ideally, the right place for doing that is the account plugin, but it may be that for this first iteration it's simpler to keep this code in the lib | 14:53 |
| mardy | dobey: in a next iteration, I'd like to rework the account plugin so that it's QML only, using the Ubuntu.OnlineAccounts module directly (should be doable) | 14:53 |
| mardy | dobey: no, it's plugin specific; the OAuth plugin also has a ForceTokenRefresh option | 14:56 |
| dobey | ick | 14:56 |
| mardy | dobey: I've just checked, the U1 account plugin does not create the account, it relies on SSOService::login | 14:58 |
| dobey | mardy: so it just shoves another flag into PluginData and then calls authenticate()? | 14:58 |
| mardy | dobey: yes | 14:58 |
| mardy | dobey: ah, now I remember why I didn't convert the account plugin to use the signon-plugin directly: the signon-plugin does not have the functionality to create an account on the server (yet) | 14:59 |
| dobey | well i'm not worried about creating new accounts on the server yet | 15:00 |
| mardy | dobey: found a little bug with default-token-name, please don't hurry up with landing https://requests.ci-train.ubuntu.com/#/ticket/1461 | 15:14 |
| dobey | mardy: i haven't even assigned a silo to build it in yet. wanted to get the large part2 branch reviewed enough to be close enough to what we want to land, before building | 15:16 |
| dobey | and was trying to find a couple other easy things to fix along with | 15:16 |
| dobey | since our TZ overlap is not great, makes the turnaround for changes a bit annoying :) | 15:17 |
| mardy | dobey: true | 15:17 |
| dobey | mardy: why would respondWithStoredToken() always fail? | 15:18 |
| mardy | dobey: because the stored data it expects must be in the form { "token-name": { "Token": ..., "TokenSecret": ..., ... }, "other-token-name": {...}, ...} | 15:21 |
| mardy | dobey: unless you tell me that we will never ever support more than one single token name, it's better to store data in this way | 15:21 |
| dobey | mardy: it still stores data in that way | 15:22 |
| mardy | dobey: yes, but now process() can be called with an empty token name, so the lookup in the stored data will fail | 15:22 |
| mardy | dobey: I think that at the beginning of process() we should do tokenName = m_data.TokenName().isEmpty() ? buildTokenName() : m_data.tokenName(), or something like that | 15:23 |
| dobey | mardy: process() could have been called with an empty token name before too. this doesn't seem like a problem with my branch (if it is indeed a problem) | 15:26 |
| mardy | dobey: no, tokenName was a required param before | 15:27 |
| mcphail | popey: is your microsoft dongle the one on offer on ebuyer today? | 15:28 |
| dobey | mardy: but it could have been an empty string | 15:28 |
| dobey | oh i guess validateInput checked that it wasn't empty | 15:29 |
| mardy | dobey: well, probably, but than that was a fault with my code; my intention was clearly to have it as a mandatory non empty param | 15:30 |
| ogra_ | mcphail, you want the v1 version ... that works for sure | 15:30 |
| dobey | mardy: anyway, yes, currently we only have the one token name for any one device | 15:30 |
| ogra_ | not sure if/how well the v2 works ... i just got two v1 ones ... both work OOTB | 15:30 |
| mardy | dobey: ok; but do you agree that we could set it right at the beginning of process, if it's empty? | 15:30 |
| mcphail | ogra_: ta. Thought it was a bit pricey anyway | 15:31 |
| ogra_ | it is ... 40€ or so | 15:31 |
| Laris | Hello, so I am thinking of switching android to ubuntu touch | 15:33 |
| popey | mcphail: link? | 15:33 |
| Laris | can you install glibc.i686 for example on the device after you have ubuntu touch as your os? | 15:33 |
| popey | mcphail: https://www.amazon.co.uk/gp/product/B00J9C2JDG is the one I have | 15:33 |
| dobey | mardy: probably not in process(); though i think process() probably needs to be a bit more complex, in order to actually use the signon plug-in | 15:34 |
| mcphail | popey: hold on - just deleted the email after ogra_ told me to look at the other version... :) | 15:34 |
| popey | hah | 15:34 |
| ogra_ | well, that pic shows v1 | 15:35 |
| ogra_ | afaik the "big part" is smaller in v2 | 15:35 |
| dobey | mardy: if i set it in responseWithStoredData(), it should satisfy your complaint here, no? | 15:35 |
| popey | http://www.ebuyer.com/743240-wireless-display-adapter-v2-hdmi-usb-in-p3q-00003 is the v2 | 15:35 |
| popey | yes, smaller "big part" | 15:35 |
| mardy | dobey: yes | 15:36 |
| mcphail | popey: http://m.ebuyer.com/743240?utm_source=2016-05-27&utm_medium=campaign_email&utm_campaign=B2C_%28Friday%29_Openers | 15:36 |
| mardy | dobey: please apply this to test: http://paste.ubuntu.com/16733924/ | 15:36 |
| ogra_ | mcphail, thats a v2 | 15:36 |
| Laris | can someone please tell me if having ubuntu touch on your device makes it possible in installing 32 and 64 bit libraries? | 15:38 |
| popey | you can tell it's a v2 by the price :) | 15:38 |
| mcphail | ogra_: yep. v1 much cheaper anyway | 15:38 |
| popey | 34vs50 quid | 15:38 |
| dobey | grr, pastebin is broken | 15:38 |
| ogra_ | Laris, that culd theoretically work in a libertine container if you would have a 64bit rootfs (which we do not have yet) ... then you could enable 32bit execution | 15:39 |
| mcphail | popey: yep - 20 quid more and you could get the little asus nettop | 15:39 |
| Laris | aha. | 15:39 |
| Laris | thanks ogra_ | 15:39 |
| ogra_ | Laris, note though that the only x86 rootfs/image we currently have is for the emulator | 15:40 |
| ogra_ | al supported devices are ARM | 15:40 |
| Laris | this is what I wanted to find out | 15:40 |
| Laris | I made the mistake into unrooting my device and getting the latest kernel | 15:41 |
| ogra_ | you can do a normal ubuntu install and install the unity8 mir session though | 15:41 |
| ogra_ | in case your device is PC compatible | 15:41 |
| Laris | I can't root it again as there is nothing available for this kernel and the other way to have uid-0 is to lose my knox certificate and other | 15:41 |
| Laris | it's a samsung a3 | 15:42 |
| ogra_ | ah | 15:42 |
| Laris | I want to try some pentesting tools and I guess I'll have to wait some more or get an older patch of my actual os | 15:42 |
| ogra_ | hmm, so casting a 1080p youtube movie from my pro5 to the TV still gets me quite some frame dropping ... | 15:43 |
| Laris | anyway, thanks, it helped | 15:43 |
| ogra_ | popey, ^^ did you try that ? | 15:43 |
| dobey | also we only have an i386 image for emulator right, no amd64? | 15:43 |
| ogra_ | dobey, yeah, i think i mentioned that above | 15:43 |
| dobey | ogra_: you just said "x86" :) | 15:43 |
| ogra_ | yeah :) | 15:43 |
| ogra_ | (i could have said "intel" but x86 makes me sound so much more professional :P ) | 15:44 |
| dobey | "intel" wouldn't have made it more clear than "x86" does, about whether it's 32 or 64 bit | 15:44 |
| mardy | dobey: this is my proposal, feel free to modify it at will: http://bazaar.launchpad.net/~mardy/ubuntuone-credentials/default-token-name/revision/243 | 15:45 |
| ogra_ | its "all x86 sstems" | 15:45 |
| mardy | dobey: but the test case is fine, on that I'm sure :-) | 15:45 |
| dobey | i don't know why we don't build an amd64 emulator image | 15:46 |
| * mardy is EOD | 15:46 | |
| dobey | cheers | 15:47 |
| popey | ogra_: no | 15:52 |
| popey | ogra_: I think the dongle scales down to 720p | 15:52 |
| ogra_ | well, the one attached to my monitor tells me 1080p60 ... on the monitor side though ... could be it scales internally | 15:53 |
| ogra_ | fonts are definitely very hard to read here | 15:53 |
| popey | yeah, same | 15:53 |
| ogra_ | on both, monitor and TV | 15:53 |
| popey | looks awful | 15:53 |
| brunch875 | queschiun: Can I put a reminder on calendar so that it reminds me with an alarm? | 15:53 |
| brunch875 | or should I use the tasks app? | 15:54 |
| dobey | brunch875: calendar events can have alarms, yes. | 15:54 |
| brunch875 | hoorraaay | 15:54 |
| ogra_ | since forever :) | 15:55 |
| brunch875 | Now how about I add it on my laptop's calendar program. Will it sync? | 15:56 |
| brunch875 | cause that'd be bombastic | 15:56 |
| brunch875 | meh desktop calendar doesn't sync with anything | 15:58 |
| dobey | ? | 15:58 |
| ogra_ | depends which one you use | 15:59 |
| brunch875 | default, didn't install anything. That's gnome's, isn't it? | 15:59 |
| * ogra_ uses evolution and syncs through google ... | 15:59 | |
| dobey | google works "fine" in evolution or gnome-calendar | 15:59 |
| ogra_ | dunno, never used it ... most of my machines were installed like 5-6 years ago and since upgraded | 15:59 |
| brunch875 | I'm really tempted to boot thunderbird and get evolution | 15:59 |
| dobey | only 5-6 years? n00b :P | 16:00 |
| s` | telegram is accumulating badges, now it shows 3. cant make them go away (talking about the left dock) | 16:00 |
| s` | anyone got this issue? | 16:01 |
| ogra_ | dobey, well, i have a warty laptop, but that hasnt been booted in years :) | 16:01 |
| brunch875 | The green badges? I have those too. I never quite understood what they meant | 16:01 |
| ogra_ | s`, file a bug | 16:01 |
| s` | brunch875: it's red | 16:01 |
| * ogra_ has seen that before as well | 16:01 | |
| brunch875 | I believe telegram doesn't mark messages as red if you read them someplace else | 16:01 |
| ogra_ | brunch875, well, it should remove the badge when you open the app locally ... but it doesnt do that every time | 16:02 |
| s` | i mean, the badge color is red, not green :P | 16:02 |
| ogra_ | (sometimes it does, dometimes it doesnt | 16:02 |
| ogra_ | ) | 16:02 |
| s` | never worked for me ogra_ | 16:02 |
| s` | like NEVER | 16:02 |
| s` | :D | 16:02 |
| s` | oh wait | 16:03 |
| ogra_ | works for me about 50% of the time ... perhaps i'm lucky | 16:03 |
| brunch875 | oh wait, I actually had 4 unread messages | 16:03 |
| s` | ok i understood | 16:03 |
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| brunch875 | s`, are you using the latest version? | 16:04 |
| s` | yes | 16:04 |
| s` | OTA-10.2 | 16:04 |
| brunch875 | hmph maybe it's different for me because sitting on rc-proposed | 16:04 |
| s` | and latest tg version | 16:04 |
| brunch875 | how do you check ota version, again? | 16:05 |
| s` | system settings | 16:05 |
| s` | about | 16:05 |
| s` | something like that | 16:05 |
| brunch875 | not finding it there | 16:05 |
| ogra_ | only on stable | 16:05 |
| brunch875 | ogra_ spills knowledge everywhere | 16:06 |
| brunch875 | thanks! | 16:06 |
| ogra_ | (OTA version for rc-proposed would be nonsense ... rc-proposed is daily builds) | 16:06 |
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| brunch875 | I got age of wonders 3 yesterday. Such a fantastic game. Being turn based it would be simply the best game for utouch. By far! | 16:52 |
| brunch875 | Someone will have to nag the developers to recompile for arm | 16:53 |
| brunch875 | if mc-phail asks, I didn't say anything :Þ | 16:53 |
| * brunch875 clings to hope | 16:54 | |
| brunch875 | Actually, it could be a good place for them to monetize. The ubuntu store | 16:55 |
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| * ogra_ LoLs | 18:00 | |
| ogra_ | popey, seen that http://withinrafael.com/building-a-microsoft-wireless-display-adapter-base-image/ ? seems there is linux inside | 18:00 |
| fish__ | Help/ | 18:49 |
| fish__ | need help | 18:50 |
| fish__ | installing touch os on samsung g note | 18:50 |
| DPA | Hi. I just got a Meizu Pro 5 ubuntu edition, and found some things which apear strange to me. First of all, I want to use an ext4 formatted SD Card, but the Phone can't authomatically mount it. I tried to modify /etc/fstab, but the file is mounted on a tmpfs, and any change vanishes after a reboot. How is the /etc/fstab file generated on an ubuntu phone, and how can I change it? Secondly, I read that | 19:44 |
| DPA | the ubuntu phones aren't updated using apt-get, is this really true? If so, why? And lastly, I found an LXC Container named 'android' on my phone, what purpose does it serve? | 19:44 |
| mcphail | DPA: with regards to the latter, some android drivers are required for the hardware. There aren't open equivalents | 19:47 |
| mcphail | DPA: the devs haven't decided on the final strategy for the sd card. You can format as ext4, but you'll be swimming against the tide | 19:48 |
| DPA | mcphail: Many thanks, this axplains a lot. | 19:49 |
| dobey | DPA: yes, apt-get is not how the phones are updated. the root fs is read-only. system updates are applied via image diffs | 19:49 |
| mcphail | DPA: the core images are update as a whole, rather than piecemeal with apt get. If you need apt, safest way is with a chroot | 19:50 |
| dobey | or a container via libertine | 19:50 |
| mcphail | brunch875: am I getting a bad reputation on here? ;) | 19:51 |
| brunch875 | Impossible! you're one of the coolguis, mcphail! | 19:52 |
| popey | ogra_: oooh! Didn't know it had linux inside, maybe we can make an image for it which has an ubuntu splash :) | 19:53 |
| mcphail | popey: the one good thing about windows is it doesn't have plymouth! | 19:54 |
| popey | hah | 19:55 |
| popey | seems no documentation for flashing the thing though | 19:56 |
| DPA | If image diffs are used for system updates, how does this look like from a security perspective? How can I check that no one manipulated the images with the Images? | 19:56 |
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| popey | DPA: the images are cryptographically signed on our server | 20:01 |
| dobey | also delivered over HTTPS | 20:03 |
| crs___ | bluetooth is not working on my pro5 with rc-proposed. is that normal? | 20:57 |
| moritz311 | do someone have some basic knowledge about sony devices ? | 21:25 |
| altker128 | mcphail: On the SD card front, why are there issues using ext4 or any other filesystem Linux supports? | 21:33 |
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