[00:02] <snfgf> HELLO
[00:02] <snfgf> configure fails to detect openssl
[00:02] <snfgf> but aptitude tells me it is installed
[00:02] <JoeyKiwi> hi
[00:02] <snfgf> JoeyKiwi, I am having technical difficults
[00:03] <JoeyKiwi> ditto
[00:03] <manslock> whois manslock
[00:03] <Kenrin> got libssl-dev installed ?
[00:04] <maddawg2> i'm at a restaraunt that is getting less than .30mbps for internet
[00:04] <maddawg2> via cockcast
[00:05] <snfgf> Kenrin, Thankyou. I was searching for openssl-dev.
[00:05] <Kenrin> Yeah that is the RPM distro package
[00:06] <JoeyKiwi> maddawg2: that sucks
[00:09] <snfgf> what package contains pcre library?
[00:10] <M0T0> hello guys :) does any idea installing diaspora on ubuntu ? :P
[00:12] <Kenrin> And an apt-cache search pcre sasys libpcre3
[00:12] <Kenrin> Probably want libpcre3-dev if you compiling stuff too
[00:13] <snfgf> ty
[00:13] <snfgf> I ran out of space on my hd and purged python2.7 and lost a load of quite useful stuff
[00:13] <nacc> snfgf: never ever a good idea to purge python anymore
[00:14] <Kenrin> Python 3 is where its at =)
[00:14] <nacc> snfgf: i guess if you had another python installed (e.g. python3), then it's not as big of a deal
[00:14] <snfgf> ^correct. I mean, why do I need two versions of python, apart from the obvious reasons.
[00:14] <snfgf> Oh yes, for the obvious reasons.
[00:15] <snfgf> (I assume that some of my scripts won't work with python3 interpreter)
[00:15] <snfgf> (not my scripts, but scripts that are part of other packages)
[00:15] <Kenrin> I run my python stuff in xonsh
[00:16] <JoeyKiwi> So, maddawg2 is out to dinner. Can someone help with my Ubuntu install not working?
[00:16] <nacc> snfgf: if it's all packaged stuff, and shipped by ubuntu, it should all be verified by the packages at this point (python2-dependnet packages shoudl be pulling in python2). however, i think 16.04 is fully python3 now
[00:16] <snfgf> Kenrin, Is that some program capable of interpreting versions 2 & 3?
[00:17] <Kenrin> I don't know if it does version 2
[00:17] <Kenrin> xonsh just lets you do bash with python
[00:19] <Kenrin> What'd you break Joeykiwi?
[00:20] <maddawg2> i'm here JoeyKiwi
[00:20] <maddawg2> sorry
[00:20] <maddawg2> did you find out what the NIC is seeing as in Windows
[00:21] <JoeyKiwi> I installed Ubuntu 16.04 on my newly built computer. When I log in, it only shows the background and blinking notification windows.
[00:21] <JoeyKiwi> Also, the ethernet does not work.
[00:22] <JoeyKiwi> Yes. Windows lists the NIC as Intel (R) Ethernet Connection (2) I219-V
[00:22] <Kenrin> What video card ?
[00:23] <JoeyKiwi> GTX 950
[00:23] <Kenrin> drop to shell and install the nvidia drivers
[00:24] <JoeyKiwi> I tried installing them from the .run file, but it threw a few errors. The first one was about the distribution preinstalled scripts failing.
[00:24] <Dumle29> hmm, bogus number of reserved sectors on my RPis SD card.
[00:25] <Dumle29> after an external harddisk killed the 5v supply and effectively removed power from the pi
[00:25] <Kenrin> you can just do apt-get install nvidia-361
[00:25] <Kenrin> or nvidia-current
[00:25] <raymod2> Has anyone had any luck getting Google Earth working in 16.04 LTS?
[00:26] <JoeyKiwi> Kenrin: my ethernet doesn't work.
[00:26] <raymod2> I've googled for hours.  Read dozens of forum threads.  Tried everything.
[00:26] <raymod2> The closest I've gotten is to get it loaded without crashing but none of the satellite imagery loads.
[00:27] <raymod2> ...and that required heroic efforts that included writing my own stub function for a library API!
[00:28] <Kenrin> It show up in lspci ?
[00:28] <exorcist> JoeyKiwi: your best option at this point is to try another distro
[00:28] <BlueProtoman> I wiped my two Kubuntu partitions (/ and /home) in favor of just one plain Ubuntu partition, but now I can't boot into my Windows 8.1 installation!  What do I do?  I still have my Windows partition, but I can't boot into it any more (it doesn't appear on GRUB)
[00:28] <JoeyKiwi> yes
[00:29] <JoeyKiwi> Aw...
[00:29] <JoeyKiwi> The ethernet problem also exists in Linux Mint.
[00:29] <HackerII> exorcist:  dont say that, JoeyKiwi , did you checksum the disc ??
[00:30] <JoeyKiwi> USB
[00:30] <HackerII> did you checksum it ?
[00:30] <JoeyKiwi> Nope
[00:30] <Kenrin> Jeez that is a really new card
[00:30] <Kenrin> No wonder it doesn't work
[00:30] <Bashing-om> BlueProtoman: Have ypou run ' sudo update-grub ' to re-discover the Windows OS ?
[00:30] <exorcist> BlueProtoman: i would google "grub windows partition"
[00:30] <joegiampaoli> raymod2: Probably new libs in newest ubuntu that are not compatible with google earth?
[00:31] <raymod2> joe - I don't think google earth has been updated (for Linux) in over a year
[00:31] <Kenrin> You're going to need the driver:  http://www.intel.com/content/www/us/en/support/network-and-i-o/ethernet-products/000005480.html
[00:31] <joegiampaoli> raymod2: Probably have to wait for google to update? What graphics card? Do you have glx enabled?
[00:31] <raymod2> joe - maybe there is a set of known working libraries?  (QT probably)
[00:32] <raymod2> joe - I'm running this in a VMware virtual machine
[00:32] <joegiampaoli> raymod2: I have it running in 14.04 perfectly fine...
[00:32] <raymod2> how did you install it?
[00:32] <expert> any love for vsftpd? (their channel is dead)
[00:33] <joegiampaoli> raymod2: downloaded it as deb from website, 64bit
[00:33] <raymod2> and then 'dpkg -i foo.deb'?
[00:33] <raymod2> No problems with dependencies?
[00:33] <JoeyKiwi> Kenrin: How do I find the ethX number?
[00:33] <JoeyKiwi> I tried that driver on Ubuntu
[00:33] <joegiampaoli> raymod2: So you are running ubuntu in VM? Maybe that's why? I think it needs full GLX for it to run
[00:34] <exorcist> JoeyKiwi: i think they go enpXsX nowadays, not ethX
[00:34] <raymod2> joe - I've gotten it running in a Fedora virtual machine
[00:34] <joegiampaoli> raymod2: it should install whatever needed if that's the case...
[00:34] <raymod2> joe - dpkg does not install dependencies
[00:35] <raymod2> I'm guessing it was a long time ago and you don't remember...
[00:35] <joegiampaoli> raymod2: Correct, but if you install gdebi and open the deb package with it, then it should
[00:35] <raymod2> Why are you running such an old version of Ubuntu?
[00:36] <JoeyKiwi> So, I'm confused on how to execute this command: ifconfig eth<x> <IP_address>
[00:36] <Kenrin> Doesn't it show up in /etc/network/interfaces ?
[00:36] <loa> hello! how i can disable wi-fi and bluetooth on startup? i tried rfkill block wifi in /etc/rc.local but have no luck.
[00:37] <joegiampaoli> raymod2: Hehe, I always go for stable, not bleeding edge, this is my laptop, my Desktop is pure Debian. Probably older but solid as a rock
[00:37] <exorcist> loa i think you should do systemctl disable wirelessd (or something)
[00:37] <Kenrin> ifconfig doesn't work past like ubuntu 12 I think
[00:37] <exorcist> JoeyKiwi: just try dhclient&
[00:37] <loa> exorcist, that was strange. can you provide some more information?
[00:38] <exorcist> loa, there is probably a systemctl command to list all working services, try systemctl --help
[00:38] <Bashing-om> joegiampaoli: If you just do ' ifconfig ' will list all the interfaces .
[00:38] <loa> exorcist, ah you are about systemd ok, forgot about that.
[00:38] <JoeyKiwi> exorcist: 10536?
[00:39] <exorcist> JoeyKiwi: what?
[00:39] <BlueProtoman> Who was the one that suggested I did sudo update-grub?
[00:39] <joegiampaoli> raymod2: also "dpkg -i foo.deb" and then "dpkg -f" should install dependencies I believe, but not sure, gdebi is a better option
[00:39] <exorcist> BlueProtoman: did that work?
[00:39] <kisuke> ok, anyone gota good primer on grub rescue?
[00:40] <Bashing-om> BlueProtoman: I be that guilty party .
[00:40] <JoeyKiwi> exorcist: that's what it outputs.
[00:40] <exorcist> JoeyKiwi: after you run dhclient try pinging google.com
[00:40] <kisuke> s/rescue/shell
[00:40] <joegiampaoli> Bashing-om: I think you got wrong person :)
[00:40] <JoeyKiwi> Unkown host
[00:40] <BlueProtoman> exorcist: Yes, it did
[00:40] <Bashing-om> joegiampaoli: Correct .. I did .. Thanks and appologies to you .
[00:41] <exorcist> BlueProtoman: excellent
[00:41] <Kenrin> Joey.  What does "ip show addr" say ?
[00:41] <exorcist> JoeyKiwi: type ping 8.8.8.8
[00:41] <raymod2> joeg - I think 'sudo apt-get install -f' does what you mention
[00:41] <JoeyKiwi> connect: Network is unreachable
[00:42] <raymod2> I used that to get my partially working installation of google earth.
[00:42] <JoeyKiwi> I typed ip show addr
[00:42] <JoeyKiwi> Object "show" is unkown.
[00:42] <joegiampaoli> raymod2: ah I see, and did you already try running it from terminal to see any errors?
[00:43] <Kenrin> Whoops.  ip addr show
[00:43] <raymod2> yes, I always launch if from the terminal - it spits out tons of errors whether it loads or not
[00:43] <squinty> kisuke, https://help.ubuntu.com/community/Grub2/Troubleshooting
[00:44] <zykotick9> joegiampaoli: not "dpkg -f" but "apt-get -f install"
[00:44] <JoeyKiwi> Kenrin: It shows a lot of text.
[00:44] <Kenrin> Do you see your ethernet with an address though ?
[00:44] <exorcist> wow JoeyKiwi you should stick with windows
[00:44] <joegiampaoli> raymod2: hmmm, you might want to check that then, probably when trying to load imagery it should spit the error you are looking for and disregard the starting errors...
[00:45] <k1l> exorcist: please drop those unhelpfull comments
[00:45] <HackerII> ^
[00:45] <exorcist> k1l, he is not even trying
[00:45] <joegiampaoli> zykotick9: Yes, I remember now, I just got used with gdebi doing it all automagically for me :)
[00:45] <raymod2> joeg - there are no new errors - I can zoom in all I want but everything just stays blurry
[00:46] <JoeyKiwi> It shows 1: lo with text and 2: enp0s31f6
[00:46] <Kenrin> Ok so enp0s31f6 is your ethernet
[00:46] <JoeyKiwi> cool
[00:46] <joegiampaoli> raymod2: Oh! so it does load imagery but doesn't refresh it to make it clearer!
[00:46] <Kenrin> Does it have an address beside inet ?
[00:46] <raymod2> This is the error it shows the most:  [0526/174635:ERROR:nss_ocsp.cc(581)] No URLRequestContext for OCSP handler.
[00:46] <Kenrin> does it say,  DOWN or UP ?
[00:47] <JoeyKiwi> <BROADCAST, MULTICAST,UP,LOWER_UP>
[00:47] <Kenrin> So it is up and working
[00:47] <joegiampaoli> raymod2: sounds more like a connection error to me then since it doesn't fetch the extra data
[00:47] <joegiampaoli> yes, nss is the libnss3 used for security
[00:47] <raymod2> It can't be a connection error.  I downloaded the .deb file through the network connection!
[00:48] <JoeyKiwi> Kenrin: So, what is the issue?
[00:48] <Kenrin> Don't know yet,  you never said if it had a good IP address
[00:48] <raymod2> A possible clue is that it shows a white box in the lower right of the window.  Not sure what is supposed to be there.
[00:48] <joegiampaoli> probably it's an issue from google's side at the moment with their NSS
[00:49] <joegiampaoli> raymod2: their security server...
[00:49] <raymod2> But it works fine in Fedora...
[00:49] <raymod2> Also, it has been not working on Ubuntu since yesterday.
[00:49] <JoeyKiwi> It shows inet 169.254.11.13/16 brd 169.254.255.255 scope link enp0s31f6:avahi
[00:49] <Kenrin> Ok so that is a bad address
[00:50] <Kenrin> Is this DHCP from a router ?
[00:50] <joegiampaoli> raymod2: try downgrading libnss!!! I remember now
[00:50] <joegiampaoli> raymod2: let me check...
[00:50] <Kenrin> Do a "sudo /etc/init.d/network restart" then check the address again
[00:50] <Kenrin> If it is dhcp it should automatically pick up from your router
[00:50] <raymod2> Also if I click "View in Google Maps" it pulls up the images OK.
[00:51] <JoeyKiwi> It is bridge through a Windows machine.
[00:51] <Kenrin> A bridge,  like internet connection sharing ?
[00:51] <JoeyKiwi> Yes
[00:51] <joegiampaoli> raymod2: waht versions of libnss3 can you downgrade to and which do you have installed?
[00:52] <JoeyKiwi> Also, command is not found.
[00:52] <HackerII> might be sudo service network-manager restart
[00:52] <Kenrin> It is /etc/init.d/networking restart then
[00:53] <Kenrin> Or what hacker said
[00:53] <JoeyKiwi> Cool thanks
[00:53] <Kenrin> But that bridge doesn't seem to be giving you an IP address.  I'd check if it is setup right
[00:53] <raymod2> libnss3 is at Version: 2:3.21-1ubuntu4
[00:54] <raymod2> How do I tell what I can downgrade to?
[00:54] <joegiampaoli> raymod2: If by any chance you can downgrade to 3.15.4 plus dependencies give it a shot, I had the same problem with another program with the newer libnss3
[00:54] <JoeyKiwi> Kenrin: I'll just move my setup to the room with the router...
[00:54] <HackerII> best bet
[00:55] <JoeyKiwi> Thank you. I appreciate it. I can usually work my way through problems, but network is just beyond me.
[00:55] <ShaRose> So, anyone have any idea why https://help.ubuntu.com/community/UbuntuTime#Using_the_Command_Line_.28unattended.29 doesn't work?
[00:55] <raymod2> How do I downgrade it?
[00:55] <joegiampaoli> in synaptic choose libnss3 and in menu Package > Force Version
[00:55] <HackerII> youll get it JoeyKiwi
[00:56] <ShaRose> https://img.ShaRo.se/n3hwW.txt for example
[00:56] <raymod2> command line?
[00:56] <joegiampaoli> raymod2: and then it might remove two other related nss packages, you will reinstall them after the downgrade but you also have to force the version in those
[00:56] <zykotick9> ShaRose: do you _really_ need it to be non-interactive?
[00:57] <joegiampaoli> raymod2: sorry, cant remember how in shell
[00:57] <ShaRose> yeah, I was setting up a script to install ubuntu to zfs root and I want it to be as non-interactive as possible.
[00:57] <ShaRose> Just found a bug report on launchpad about it, so it's not just me (But the instructions are still on help)
[00:57] <joegiampaoli> raymod2: also don't forget to lock the versions so they don't get updated
[00:57] <zykotick9> ShaRose: ok, good luck.
[00:58] <raymod2> E: Version '3.15.4' for 'libnss3' was not found
[00:58] <raymod2> (after 'sudo apt-get install libnss3=3.15.4')
[00:59] <Kenrin> Sharose:  Any reason you can't just use kickstart ?
[00:59] <ShaRose> Kenrin to zfs root
[00:59] <joegiampaoli> raymod2: 2:3.15.4-1ubuntu7
[00:59] <Kenrin> Ah
[00:59] <ShaRose> there's no official way to do it atm, and I've got a guide for it that works and is relatively painless
[01:00] <ShaRose> you basically set some environment variables and fire the commands in big blocks, pausing at some points in case of errors
[01:00] <ShaRose> which is why I want to avoid going through timezone setup if I can help it
[01:00] <joegiampaoli> raymod2: If it's not that I can't come up with anything else, so I hope this does help you
[01:00] <joegiampaoli> raymod2: BRB
[01:00] <Kenrin> That is a lot of work to have zfs
[01:01] <ShaRose> oh, good
[01:01] <ShaRose> found a workaround
[01:02] <ShaRose> sigh
[01:03] <ShaRose> cba to make an ubuntu one account for it
[01:03] <ShaRose> anyone want to make a quick edit to the wiki?
[01:04] <_44trent> so i just removed ubuntu from my UEFI dualboot, however my motherboard still thinks ubuntu is installed
[01:04] <_44trent> how do i get rid of those entries in my device menu?
[01:04] <_44trent> don't know where to ask, doubt my motherboard has a support channel
[01:05] <ShaRose> iirc your motherboard should automatically remove it after failing to boot that device for most motherboards
[01:05] <ShaRose> can't recall if that's spec though
[01:05] <ShaRose> er
[01:05] <ErrorHead> try https://help.ubuntu.com/community/OS-Uninstaller
[01:05] <ShaRose> actually, dualboot, is this off of one bootloader?
[01:05] <yakamo> is xmonad no longer in the ubuntu 16 repos?
[01:06] <_44trent> UEFI dualboot, so uh
[01:06] <_44trent> the windows boot manager stays intact
[01:06] <exorcist> _44trent: you could ask in #hardware
[01:07] <zykotick9> !info xmonad | yakamo
[01:07] <_44trent> i mean, i could
[01:07] <ShaRose> _44trent well
[01:07] <sebastien__> hi
[01:07] <ShaRose> are you using the windows bootmanager to boot ubuntu?
[01:07] <_44trent> no.
[01:08] <_44trent> but there are ubuntu entries in my BIOS device list i want out of the list
[01:08] <yakamo> zykotick9, thanks im a debian user normally so im not completely familiar with ubuntu
[01:08] <raymod2> joeq - I tried installing synaptic and when I look at the package in there it only shows the current version as an available version
[01:08] <shabang_gang>  #bash
[01:08] <shabang_gang>  #c
[01:08] <_44trent> otherwise, it might try to boot ubuntu, and fail...
[01:08] <ShaRose> _44trent iirc if it fails to boot it because the partition is gone it should automatically clear it off
[01:08] <sebastien__> I would like to do something specific on my computer but i don't know how. may anyone help me please? :D
[01:08] <exorcist> _44trent: so does that system only have windows and it won't boot?
[01:09] <_44trent> no...i'm booting fine
[01:09] <ShaRose> from what I understand: your computer has 2 disks. One formatted windows (which you are keeping and works) and one formatted ubuntu (which is gone, but still shows up)
[01:09] <_44trent> i just want to know if there's a way to get rid of the ubuntu entries in my device list
[01:09] <ShaRose> right?
[01:09] <yakamo> !info mpich2 | yakamo
[01:09] <exorcist> _44trent: sounds like they cause no problems
[01:10] <_44trent> UEFI can see the bootloaders on a device and lists them in the device menu
[01:10] <yakamo> !info mpich3 | yakamo
[01:10] <_44trent> alright, if they won't cause any issues i'll just leave it in
[01:10] <ShaRose> _44trent just try booting the ubuntu bootloader
[01:10] <ShaRose> it should clear out after your motherboard realizes it doesn't exist iirc
[01:10] <_44trent> ...you're probably right
[01:10] <exorcist> _44trent: that's what i would do, or just get in windows rescue thingy and run "fixmbr" or something, ask in #windows
[01:11] <ShaRose> exorcist well, it wouldn't be fixmbr, but yeah
[01:11] <_44trent> alright, i'll just try booting ubuntu, the BIOS will probably figure it from there
[01:11] <ShaRose> there are commands to reinstall BCD
[01:11] <Kenrin> I use a program called easyuefi
[01:12] <Kenrin> Ubuntu has the efibootmgr utility
[01:12] <exorcist> Kenrin: he removed ubuntu, using just windows but wants to remove the traces of ubuntu in MBR too
[01:12] <Kenrin> Ah
[01:12] <_44trent> easyuefi is letting me remove the ubuntu entries from my UEFI list thing
[01:13] <_44trent> thanks kenrin
[01:13] <Kenrin> easyuefi will do that
[01:13] <_44trent> yup
[01:14] <joegiampaoli> raymod2: In synaptic, if you click on the top menu package, and then lock version you should be able to select it there
[01:14] <_44trent> i wonder how it actually accesses the memory that stuff is stored on to remove it...
[01:14] <_44trent> considering it's freeware, i'll probably never be able to find out
[01:14] <joegiampaoli> raymod2: also lmb on package in list, then properties you can see available versions
[01:14] <_44trent> i could check how efibootmgr does it though
[01:15] <joegiampaoli> raymod2: actually properties is right next to the searcj bar also
[01:16] <_44trent> minor nitpick exorcist, EFI doesn't actually use MBR
[01:16] <_44trent> i got what you were saying though
[01:16] <_44trent> i best be off now
[01:16] <raymod2> locking the version does not make other versions appear
[01:16] <raymod2> what does 'lmb' mean?
[01:17] <joegiampaoli> raymod2: left mouse button
[01:18] <joegiampaoli> raymod2: select libnss3 in the list, then on the top go to "Package" (drop menu) then select "Force Version"
[01:18] <raymod2> http://i.imgur.com/3mHbAol.png
[01:18] <raymod2> Force Version is greyed out
[01:20] <joegiampaoli> raymod2: That's because you probably locked it already, first downgrade, then lock it
[01:20] <joegiampaoli> raymod2: locking is to prevent update manager to revert it back to the newer version
[01:21] <raymod2> Did you see my screenshot?  There are no other available versions.
[01:21] <Nocturius> Hello, I can't set my monitor to 1920x1080 using nvidia-304-updates from xorg edgers. GPU is geforce 6150se, connected via VGA. I was able to set 1920x1080 res with nouveau drivers, but crashed frequently
[01:21] <potasmic> sometimes the audio in Ubuntu seeks like.. really fast
[01:21] <potasmic> its annoying
[01:21] <raymod2> I have locked it and unlocked it.  That doesn't change the list of available versions.
[01:21] <csplinter> Hi. I've got a fresh install of 16.04 here with nvidia proprietary drivers installed. My monitor is 1920x1200 but I want to force 1080p output. How can I do this?
[01:21] <Nocturius> I have also tried the nvidia-304 packages from main, currently using the xorg edgers driver
[01:22] <Nocturius> hello csplinter, looks like we're both having problems with nvidia drivers
[01:22] <JoeyKiwi> So, the internet is working. What's the command to install the drivers for the GTX 950
[01:22] <joegiampaoli> raymod2: hmmm, maybe it has to reload the cache, press reload or close synaptic and re-open it
[01:22] <csplinter> lol, yea nocturius. is your native res 1920x1200 too?
[01:23] <shabang_gang> Nocturius, im interested in your bug - I also have some issues here
[01:23] <cosmicfires> csplinter, nvidia x server settings will do that I believe
[01:23] <cosmicfires> I noticed 16.04 installed open source drivers for my nvidia card
[01:23] <csplinter> cosmicfires, this is the problem. The mode is listed in the gui
[01:23] <csplinter> isn't listed!
[01:23] <cosmicfires> I applaud open source but they aren't as good as the nvidia drivers
[01:23] <Nocturius> csplinter no my native is 1920x1080
[01:24] <cosmicfires> I don't know then
[01:24] <shabang_gang> Nocturius, what about 340 drivers?
[01:24] <csplinter> nocturius, well that's even weirder. But maybe we still need the same solution
[01:24] <shabang_gang> Nocturius, im was up to give it a try on 340 now
[01:24] <Nocturius> shabang_gang: I haven't tried 340 drivers, nvidia website listed 304.131 as compatible with my gpu
[01:24] <raymod2> Nope, no difference.  This app seems like it is geared towards novices and maybe they don't want them downgrading packages?
[01:25] <shabang_gang> Nocturius, ok, should be the "legacy" ones
[01:25] <Nocturius> the max resolution I can set in nvidia x server settings is 1360x768
[01:25] <Nocturius> shabang_gang legacy ones?
[01:25] <raymod2> Maybe there is a .deb file I can download?
[01:25] <joegiampaoli> raymod2: hold on
[01:25] <Bashing-om> JoeyKiwi: What release are you on ?, drver in release 16.04 is available in the repo . else from our trusted PPA .
[01:25] <shabang_gang> Nocturius, old GPUs
[01:25] <csplinter> Be back in 15 mins.
[01:26] <JoeyKiwi> 16.04
[01:26] <exorcist> JoeyKiwi: sudo apt-get install nvidia[TAB]
[01:26] <shabang_gang> Nocturius, whats the monitor brand?
[01:26] <Nocturius> shabang_gang: it's an acer h236hl bid
[01:26] <ecaz> issue: openvpn + openresolv fails to update /etc/resolv.conf on wireless, but works fine on Ethernet ... any ideas how to fix that?
[01:27] <JoeyKiwi> tab?
[01:27] <Bashing-om> JoeyKiwi: K ,, and is there presently a proprietary driver on the system ?
[01:27] <exorcist> JoeyKiwi: it is a key below 1 and above caps lock
[01:27] <JoeyKiwi> I just installed Ubuntu 16.04
[01:27] <JoeyKiwi> Yes. It did nothing.
[01:28] <exorcist> JoeyKiwi: type nvidia and hit tab twice!!
[01:28] <sebastien__> hello guys, please can anyone help me? i just would like my applications don't melt into one when i open the same several times (like internet browser), so i can switch them quickly with many Alt + Tab, without having to hold the buttons to select manually the page i want. excuse my poor english please, i'm french :p
[01:28] <Bashing-om> JoeyKiwi: Terninal way . ' sudo apt update ; sudo apt upgrade ; sudo ubuntu-drivers autoinstall ; .
[01:28] <shabang_gang> Nocturius, naitve resolution issues appeared here since I changed my monitor - the old would run smooth on its native, but this one is kind of crappy on nvidia proprietary drivers and good on nouveau (but stays jerky, like if was on framebuffer)
[01:28] <JoeyKiwi> Okay
[01:29] <cosmicfires> How many filters can I use in thunderbird without causing problems?
[01:29] <joegiampaoli> raymod2: This might help? http://askubuntu.com/questions/138284/how-to-downgrade-a-package-via-apt-get
[01:29] <Nocturius> shabang_gang: nouveau would work perfectly for me if I didn't get random hangs with a garbled screen. I was able to set 1920x1080 in that driver using xrandr to add mode
[01:29] <cosmicfires> also can I set thunderbird to show all the email headers with the message the way 14.04 did?
[01:29] <Nocturius> when I try xrandr --addmode with nvidia driver I get badmatch error
[01:30] <shabang_gang> Nocturius, in your xorg.0.log: is there a "nvidia-auto-select" line?
[01:30] <joegiampaoli> raymod2: the reason why I wanted you to do it through synaptic is so you could easily revert if this was not the cause of error
[01:30] <JoeyKiwi> Thank you, Bashing-om
[01:31] <joegiampaoli> raymod2: apt-cache showpkg <package-name>  should show you available versions
[01:31] <joegiampaoli> raymod2: as its described there...
[01:31] <shabang_gang> Nocturius, in here, nouveau overheats the GPU
[01:31] <Bashing-om> JoeyKiwi: Keep in mind .. 'buntu, if it is hard you are doing it wrong .
[01:32] <csplinter> Nocturius, just a heads up. I solved the problem by making an xorg.conf file at /etc/X11/xorg.conf
[01:32] <csplinter> No file existed previously
[01:32] <squinty> cosmicfires,  fwiw  irc.mozilla.org #thunderbird  is the offical channel for thunderbird
[01:32] <JoeyKiwi> Bashing-om: which is why this is confusing. In my experience, Ubuntu has been amazingly easy.
[01:33] <Nocturius> shabang_gang: yes I do have nvidia-auto-select in xorg.0.conf and also my monitor is listed as CRT-0?
[01:33] <JoeyKiwi> YAY! It works.
[01:33] <Nocturius> csplinter: how did you configure your xorg.conf?
[01:33] <JoeyKiwi> Thank you so much everyone.
[01:33] <sebastien__> no one knows how i can configure that?
[01:33] <JoeyKiwi> exorcist...why so cynical?
[01:34] <Bashing-om> !cookie | JoeyKiwi
[01:34] <shabang_gang> Nocturius, that means that no matter what you do on your xorg.conf, it will always go with whats on EDID - and I heard some EDIDs suck
[01:34] <cosmicfires> I'll ask there squinty
[01:35] <exorcist> JoeyKiwi because you want to be spoonfed, but that's simply not linux, i just don't udnerstand why you bother
[01:35] <csplinter> Nocturius, I just allowed the "Nvidia X Server Settings" utility that came with the driver to generate the xorg.conf file
[01:36] <shabang_gang> csplinter, good one, I didnt try that one
[01:36] <csplinter> Under X Server Display Configuration -> Save to X Configuration File
[01:37] <csplinter> For the record. I was able to set my 1920x1200 monitor to 1080p. That then allowed me to mirror the output to my TV using the same utility.
[01:37] <raymod2> uggg, I tried that first.  It says it can't find the version.
[01:38] <shabang_gang> Nocturius, one more for you: do your legacy card have the ability to your actual monitor native resolution? - there are limits on what resolution a card can display
[01:39] <Nocturius> shabang_gang: yeah I've checked and it's capable of 1920x1080 output
[01:39] <shabang_gang> Nocturius, alright
[01:40] <shabang_gang> ill try to play w/ nvidia proprietary tools here
[01:41] <Kenrin> What kernel is 16 up to nowadays ?
[01:42] <drama> Kenrin, 4.2
[01:42] <csplinter> OK, new problem. Now is there a way for me to simultaneously output to two different sound devices. Just the same sounds I mean.
[01:42] <joegiampaoli> raymod2: apt-cache showpkg libnss3
[01:43] <Kenrin> Dang,  I still need a newer one for skylake
[01:43] <Nocturius> csplinter I let nvidia-settings create xorg.conf like you mentioned, and shabang_gang I found this link where someone had options to disable edid under "Device" in xorg.conf
[01:43] <Nocturius> http://askubuntu.com/questions/188060/force-video-mode-without-edid-information
[01:43] <joegiampaoli> raymod2: I get it fine here...
[01:43] <cosmicfires> I have kernel 4.4.0-22 on 16.04
[01:43] <ShaRose> https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=P4S2LpXPqTg this is top kek editiing
[01:44] <csplinter> Nocturius, awesome. I guess you monitor has inaccurate edid info. Or maybe it's failing to read it properly huh
[01:44] <shabang_gang> kuel
[01:44] <shabang_gang> hes gone
[01:44] <drama> Kenrin, theres a repo you can get 4.5 if it will boot up long enough to get it... back ports for xenial or something
[01:44] <shabang_gang> he crashed????
[01:44] <shabang_gang> lol
[01:45] <Kenrin> I'll keep using Arch for a bit.  Last time I tried upgrading the kernel on Ubuntu I turned it into a brick
[01:45] <joegiampaoli> raymod2: maybe you have to enable repositories? "multiverse" "restricted" "universe" "backports" etc....?
[01:46] <csplinter> Can system sound be directed to more than one sound card?
[01:46] <joegiampaoli> raymod2: you can enable them also in synaptic, then you have to reload
[01:46] <needmorevolume> Xubuntu 14.04 and VLC 2.1.6 has normal volume range when playing mp3 music but some movies are very quiet even at max volume (VLC and System)...these same movies play fine on OSX/VLC. Ideas?
[01:47] <NeedHelpNowlz> Please help me. My Ubuntu 16.04 is stuck in a reload loop.
[01:47] <NeedHelpNowlz> Hello?
[01:48] <Kenrin> needmorevolume: I've had that happen when an alsamixer slider was too low
[01:48] <needmorevolume> kenrin: sorry to sound obtuse but I don't know what that is...in the effects/audio settings?
[01:48] <NeedHelpNowlz> the problem is that it it going at the "dev/sda1" booting part
[01:49] <NeedHelpNowlz> Please help me. My Ubuntu 16.04 is stuck in a reload loop.
[01:49] <NeedHelpNowlz> Are there any Ubuntu Devs onlien?
[01:49] <NeedHelpNowlz> *online
[01:50] <Kenrin> It would be under your pulseaudio sound settings.   I Just use alsamixer from terminal
[01:51] <NeedHelpNowlz> here is what is says:
[01:51] <Nocturius> shabang_gang csplinter I tried adding those parameters to xorg.conf along with modeline for 1920x1080_60.00 generated with cvt
[01:52] <needmorevolume> kenrin: sorry I am a noob. Are the pulse audio settings system settings or in VLC? It doesn't do it to all movies...I watched one last night with normal range....and music is fine
[01:52] <Nocturius> it booted at 800x600 and xorg.0.log said the 1920x1080 mode was not valid
[01:52] <NeedHelpNowlz> "dev/sda1: clean, 261938/4759552 files, 6581735/19013632 blocks"
[01:52] <NeedHelpNowlz> i cant access anything
[01:52] <Kenrin> needmorevolume: What kind of speaker output is it?  If it doesn't happen in all movies it sounds like a 5.1 to stereo issue
[01:53] <Bashing-om> Kenrin: i915.preliminary_hw_support=1 boot parameter ? Intel_graphics#Driver_not_working_for_Intel_Skylake_chips
[01:53] <needmorevolume> kenrin: found pulse audio system settings but dont see anything "asla"...not sure what you mean by speaker output...sorry I feel like I can't answer anything. Built in speakers in a very old toshiba laptop
[01:53] <NeedHelpNowlz> is anyone going to help me? PLEASE???
[01:54] <cosmicfires> NeedHelpNowlz, I don't understand your problem
[01:54] <cosmicfires> can you describe it in more detail?
[01:54] <needmorevolume> needhalpnow: sorry I am a noob...but I know how it feels to need help so I empathize...sorry I can't help
[01:54] <NeedHelpNowlz> it is stuck at the
[01:54] <NeedHelpNowlz> "dev/sda1: clean, 261938/4759552 files, 6581735/19013632 blocks"
[01:54] <NeedHelpNowlz> part
[01:54] <csplinter> OK, I got simultaneous audio output to multiple cards now. I achieved this was a utility called papfrefs
[01:55] <shabang_gang> Nocturius, thats bad. I must to leave now - but ill keep trying to tackle this one - downloading another driver series or tweaking xorg...
[01:55] <shabang_gang> bye
[01:55] <Nocturius> bye
[01:55] <Kenrin> I'm not up to date on how to do it in the GUI but you probably need to change pulseaudio from 5.1 to stereo
[01:56] <Nocturius> as an alternate approach, does anyone know if there's a way I could use the nouveau drivers and stop them from crashing?
[01:57] <needmorevolume> Kenrin how do I do it in terminal? And better yet how do I undo that if it doesn't work? ;)
[01:57] <Nocturius> usually happens when I resize a window, open too many tabs, something graphics semi-intensive
[01:57] <needmorevolume> I can cut and paste fine even if I am not that smart
[01:57] <Kenrin> needmorevolume:  Check VLC preferences first and see what the audio output is set to
[01:58] <needmorevolume> kenrin: not sure if I am looking at right place but under AUDIO>STEREOMODE it's on STEREO and other options are RIGHT, LEFT and REVERSE STEREO..dont see 5.1
[01:59] <Nocturius> or what could be causing badmatch error when I try to xrandr --addmode with nvidia-304
[02:00] <needmorevolume> kenrin: TOOLS>EFFETCS has an equalizer as well but no stereo settings
[02:00] <Kenrin> Ok so VLC isn't the issue,  pulseaudio is
[02:00] <sebastien__> guys please, anyone has an idea for my problem? :)
[02:01] <somsip> sebastien__: I dont see a question from you
[02:01] <Kenrin> Let me load up my ubuntu VM,  I'm not sure how to change it
[02:01] <sebastien__> somsip: i past it : hello guys, please can anyone help me? i just would like my applications don't melt into one when i open the same several times (like internet browser), so i can switch them quickly with many Alt + Tab, without having to hold the buttons to select manually the page i want. excuse my poor english please, i'm french :p
[02:01] <needmorevolume> Kenrin: Pulse audio is set to ANALOG STEREO DUPLEX and other choices are ANALOG STEREO OUTPUT and ANALOG STEREO INPUT and OFF...no change between duplex and output settings
[02:02] <needmorevolume> some weird speaker noise too so maybe hardware is going
[02:02] <somsip> sebastien__: using unity? No idea so will leave someone else to answer
[02:02] <Jordan_U> sebastien__: alt + ~ to switch bwtween windows within an app.
[02:03] <sebastien__> Jordan_U: really? i try it right now
[02:03] <streetwitch> I need help getting my mic to work.  Fresh ubuntu studio, only thing that doesn't work.
[02:04] <Kenrin> Well if you open alsamixer from terminal and all the sliders are maxed then I have no idea
[02:05] <sebastien__> Jordan_U: i tried, nothing :/
[02:05] <needmorevolume> just type asla mixer?
[02:05] <Kenrin> alsamixer  :  yeah
[02:06] <needmorevolume> kenrin: some are maxed some not...should all be maxed?
[02:07] <needmorevolume> oops didnt read...master was low as I turned it down and others are mics sorry
[02:07] <needmorevolume> speakers are maxed
[02:07] <Kenrin> So is the dialogue just too quiet in the movies ?
[02:07] <Kenrin> Or the entire movie ?
[02:08] <needmorevolume> mp3s and some movies play normal volume...
[02:08] <Jordan_U> sebastien__: Sorry, it's alt + `
[02:08] <needmorevolume> whole thing...its not a dynamic range thing
[02:08] <needmorevolume> you have to max volume to hear even low sounds...
[02:08] <Jordan_U> sebastien__: http://askubuntu.com/questions/28086/what-are-unitys-keyboard-and-mouse-shortcuts
[02:08] <Pinchiukas> Why is 'dpkg-reconfigure locales' not asking me what locales to generate? It just goes on and generates whatever it wants.
[02:08] <Kenrin> Ok your problem is too difficult ^_^.   I'd guess the movie didn't have normalized sound or a codec is messed up
[02:09] <needmorevolume> sorry
[02:09] <needmorevolume> i tried three and all were mp.4 and did this
[02:09] <Kenrin> mp4 is just a container
[02:09] <needmorevolume> but another mp4 by same uploader is fine
[02:10] <needmorevolume> ok was trying to narrow it down...
[02:10] <needmorevolume> wierd
[02:10] <Kenrin> The audio codec would be AAC, AC-3, or DTS
[02:10] <lfitz> is developing with certain version of software a good use for containers? is there another option? (C++ and an older library)
[02:10] <Jordan_U> needmorevolume: Do you see the same problem with other players like totem?
[02:10] <Kenrin> DTS is what has tons of trouble if you are only using stereo output
[02:10] <needmorevolume> jordan havent tried anything else yet....these movies work fine on OSX in VLC....
[02:11] <needmorevolume> I had some playback issues too where I had to stop the movie and restart and it was fine then...after stuttering...maybe my machine is too old
[02:11] <needmorevolume> is VLC normally fine on Linux? I dont have much experience
[02:12] <Jordan_U> needmorevolume: Please try totem and also check VLC's log messages to see if we can get more hints as to what the problem is.
[02:12] <needmorevolume> used it a lot on OSX
[02:12] <Kenrin> I feel your pain though.  I compiled VLC from source like 20 times to fix an audio problem
[02:12] <somsip> needmorevolume: `fine here for years
[02:12] <sebastien__> Jordan_U: i love you <3 i tried my ` key, but i'm in france, so my key above Tab is ², i saw it on your link. thank you very much buddy :D
[02:12] <Jordan_U> needmorevolume: I have never encountered such a problem and I use VLC frequently and with many odd videos.
[02:13] <needmorevolume> ok...maybe I am doing something wrong. Its hiding the menus now on its own and I hadn't changed anything....gremlins
[02:13] <Kenrin> Can you just turn on VLC normalize volume and call it a day ?
[02:13] <sebastien__> have a nice night/day or whatever where you are guy, i'm leaving. thank you Jordan U
[02:13] <Kenrin> Hehe
[02:14] <sebastien__> guys*
[02:14] <needmorevolume> kenrin where is that setting?
[02:14] <needmorevolume> and where are the logs? I dont' see logs in the preferences
[02:14] <Kenrin> Somewhere under preferences audio
[02:15] <needmorevolume> ah if I normalize volume to these movies I won't be able to turn it down enough for the normal things to not be super loud
[02:16] <needmorevolume> christ I have no idea whats going on...the menu bar has disaappeared and if I restart VLC its opening in full screen with no menu or controls visible...wth
[02:17] <needmorevolume> wonder if I should uninstall and reinstall it
[02:19] <buffon137> how to use spicy-screenshot and not disturb the normal connection of vm
[02:20] <streetwitch> Does anyone have experience with microphones not working in ubuntu?
[02:23] <needmorevolume> volume was low with totem too
[02:23] <needmorevolume> trying smplayer when its done installing
[02:25] <buffon137> my microphone is normal at xubuntu
[02:25] <needmorevolume> well dang....3 video players all low volume...music is fine and these same movies work on OSX/VLC and other movies work fine on this one
[02:25] <needmorevolume> Im lost
[02:25] <buffon137> using alsamixer to adjust volume
[02:27] <needmorevolume> volume for speakers is max and master moves with volume slider
[02:27] <needmorevolume> music and some movies are normal...1/3 level is fine....with these movies it has to be maxed to even barely hear
[02:27] <needmorevolume> but they work fine on other OS
[02:28] <Kenrin> check the "pavucontrol" volume sliders
[02:29] <needmorevolume> kenrin: where is pavucontrol?
[02:29] <Kenrin> Run it from terminal,  you probably have to install it first
[02:30] <streetwitch> I was just playing in alsamixer trying to get my mic to work, and now I don't get sound either.
[02:30] <streetwitch> Ideas?
[02:30] <Kenrin> streetwitch: turn the sliders back up and make sure you didn't hit the mute button
[02:31] <streetwitch> Kenrin: All the sliders?
[02:31] <Kenrin> The ones for the speakers
[02:31] <needmorevolume> Kenrin: I didn't know what was pulse audio....I have that....not much in the way of settings there and it has no effectg
[02:32] <needmorevolume> i reinstalled VLC same issue....and two other media players same issue. I would think that means its the movies...but they play fine on other OS with VLC
[02:32] <streetwitch> It still isn't working Kenrin
[02:35] <needmorevolume> man I wanted to love linux but its nothing but trouble...half has been my fault but half nobody can sort out
[02:36] <streetwitch> If anyone can help me get my speakers and microphone working I will buy something off of your Amazon wishlist!
[02:36] <Kenrin> I don't want to badmouth ubuntu in the ubuntu chat.  But this is why I switched to Arch|Fedora as my desktop
[02:38] <needmorevolume> i dont think I am smart enough to manage arch...I like guis and simple
[02:38] <Kenrin> Streetwitch: I don't know what you changed but the master, PCM,  and left, right, center, subwoofer need to be all maxed
[02:38] <needmorevolume> I wonlt ever be a sysadmin who loves the CL
[02:39] <Kenrin> That is blasphemous.  You can do everything on Arch on the GUI except install it
[02:39] <Kenrin> Atergos makes the arch install painless
[02:40] <tgm4883> !ot
[02:40] <streetwitch> Kenrin: I don't see left/right/center/subwoofer
[02:40] <Kenrin> So your master and PCM are maxed and still no sound ?
[02:40] <streetwitch> yep
[02:41] <Kenrin> Does any say MM or OO ?
[02:42] <Kenrin> MM would mean it is muted
[02:42] <Kenrin> Which you need to select and hit the M key
[02:42] <streetwitch> Right
[02:43] <streetwitch> Anything else we can try?
[02:44] <Kenrin> I'm not sure,  there isn't much to mess up in alsamixer unless you hit F6 and selected a different sound card
[02:44] <streetwitch> I think I did that actually
[02:45] <streetwitch> I can bring up that menu, and it has 2 options but I can't figure out how to choose either of them.
[02:46] <K-arch> if it's all amd stuff i can help...
[02:46] <Kenrin> up and down to highlight and enter to select
[02:48] <streetwitch> Kenrin: I still don't get sound!
[02:48] <streetwitch> Do I need to restart?
[02:49] <Kenrin> You can try it.  Sorry I'm not much help but I honestly don't know what you could have changed in there
[02:50] <K-arch> what else doesn't work besides sound?
[02:50] <Kenrin> His Mic
[02:51] <streetwitch> K-arch: My sound was working fine, but it stopped after trying to fix the Mic
[02:56] <K-arch> Oh see, I was going to say it's most likely iommu related https://www.kernel.org/doc/Documentation/kernel-parameters.txt  but it sounds like jest a ui config issue, try and set the settings back to what they where or what you think they should be, and reboot, that's the best I can help ya good luck...
[02:58] <streetwitch> What if it was iommu related?
[02:59] <streetwitch> brb
[03:01] <notadeveloper> hi whats a good mp3 to wav converter
[03:03] <streetwitch> I tried rebooting
[03:04] <streetwitch> Still no sound or mic
[03:04] <K-arch> any luck ?
[03:04] <zykotick9> notadeveloper: "mpv -ao pcm foo.mp3"
[03:04] <buffon137> pulseaudio is started ?
[03:04] <streetwitch> K-arch: No luck
[03:06] <buffon137>  how to capture screenshot of a spice desktop without interrupt a normal connect of vm when using spicy-screenshot command
[03:10] <K-arch> maybe try sudo unity --reset
[03:10] <K-arch> in the terminal and reboot again
[03:11] <Kenrin> Won't alsactl init set it back to defaults ?
[03:11] <buffon137>  how to capture screenshot of a spice desktop without interrupt a normal connect of vm when using spicy-screenshot command on ubuntu
[03:11] <Kenrin> I'm betting he unmuted SPIF or something
[03:12] <K-arch> yeah it's some setting he changed
[03:25] <krismatrix> Hi..do you guys know what containers are? I was told that they are a sort of moder VM
[03:25] <Arcaire> not really
[03:25] <Arcaire> kind of more like a super lightweight VM when you don't need isolation
[03:26] <mbk> check Docker documentation
[03:26] <K-arch> there like application jails, a BSD knock off basically
[03:27] <mentoc> Does Ubuntu ignore /etc/dnsmasq.conf?
[03:28] <krismatrix> I was Docker?
[03:28] <krismatrix> what do you mean don't need isolation?
[03:32] <Kenrin> Don't need the application to be completely separate from anything else
[03:33] <Psaux> .
[03:34] <mindofmateo> When I try to boot into GRUB/16.04, I get this:  [ end Kernel panic - not syncing: VFS: Unable to mout root fs on unknown-block(2,0)    This occurs even when I try to boot from the same installation drive.  What have I done?
[03:35] <Arcaire> krismatrix: i mean if you trust the apps inside the container, you don't need strict resource limits or allocation, and don't need a custom operating system / kernel / system library
[03:36] <lotuspsychje> mindofmateo: uefi settings good?
[03:37] <mindofmateo> lotuspsychje: afaik I don't use uefi.
[03:37] <Jordan_U> mindofmateo: Can you boot sucessfully from any media?
[03:38] <lotuspsychje> mindofmateo: what kind of install are you trying? zfs?
[03:40] <mindofmateo> I forced shutdown and rebooted.  I got to grub, and now I can finally boot to the desktop.  lotuspsychje: I used the image from ubuntu.com
[03:40] <krismatrix> so...what is a container program that i can look into?
[03:40] <Arcaire> krismatrix: docker
[03:41] <mindofmateo> Jordan_U: I successfully booted from the HDD just now.
[03:41] <krismatrix> https://hub.docker.com/_/ubuntu/
[03:41] <krismatrix> this?
[03:41] <[Saint]> lxc
[03:41] <somsip> krismatrix: if you don't know what a container is and dont know how to research it yourself, you dont need them.
[03:42] <[Saint]> heh
[03:42] <lotuspsychje> mindofmateo: forced shutdown when?
[03:42] <somsip> krismatrix: it's an offtopic subject here too, so ask a suport question or take it elsewhere please
[03:42] <krismatrix> need them for a project. Suggested by colleague
[03:42] <krismatrix> ok
[03:42] <somsip> krismatrix: as I said, if you cant even research them yourself or ask in an on-topic channel, you really have no place using them
[03:43] <mindofmateo> lotuspsychje: I meant when I got the message (referring to my first question in this channel) I held down the power button to shut it down.
[03:45] <lotuspsychje> mindofmateo: ok, you say you can boot into desktop now? so your problem is gone or...?
[03:46] <Jordan_U> mindofmateo: Please run boot info script: https://github.com/arvidjaar/bootinfoscript and pastebin the RESULTS.txt it produces.
[03:47] <lotuspsychje> Jordan_U: is that the same as bootchart from our repos?
[03:47] <Datz> Hi, I can't get my track pad to work unless I run sudo modprobe -r psmouse -> sudo modprobe psmouse proto=imps Any way to fix this problem?
[03:48] <mindofmateo> Is an installation log saved when you install Ubuntu?  lotuspsychje: It booted... sort of...  Here's the deal-- yesterday I installed 16.04 just fine, but was annoyed that python defaulted to 2.7 instead of 3... sooo rather than figure out how to change the default, I decided touninstall it and that caused some problems.
[03:49] <lotuspsychje> mindofmateo: you should have told us that from the start mate
[03:49] <mindofmateo> Jordan_U: I don't have access to a browser and terminal doesn't open.
[03:49] <lotuspsychje> mindofmateo: so your problems started when messing with python latest?
[03:49] <Jordan_U> lotuspsychje: No, but it's almost the same as boot-info-script from our repos, except the version in the repos doesn't have a lot of the functionality and fixes in the github fork I linked too.
[03:50] <lotuspsychje> Jordan_U: cool, didnt know that one yet
[03:50] <mindofmateo> lotuspsychje: it seems I have a problem with doing things in order, doesn't it? :/  answering your last question, yes.  Since I had just installed, I figured I would just reinstall to fix it, no harm no foul.
[03:52] <lotuspsychje> mindofmateo: i also dont think your kernel error has links to your python issue, did you install latest python with a ppa?
[03:53] <lotuspsychje> Datz: wich ubuntu version? clean install/upgrade? did it work before?
[03:53] <Datz> lotuspsychje: it's 16.04 it was a clean install, and it did work before.
[03:53] <mindofmateo> I never did a python install.  Once I installed 16.04, I went to dabble in python, noticed (and stupidly got annoyed) that "python" pointed to 2.7, and I had to use "python3.5" to point to 3.  Then I ran sudo apt-get remove python and it uninstalled 2.7
[03:55] <lotuspsychje> mindofmateo: how did you 'use' python 3.5?
[03:55] <lotuspsychje> Datz: worked on 16.04 or another ubuntu version?
[03:55] <Datz> It worked on 16.04, never have run another version on this one.
[03:56] <lotuspsychje> Datz: so trackpad started to fail after an update?
[03:56] <Datz> lotuspsychje: I can't say for certain, but that sounds most plausible
[03:57] <lotuspsychje> Datz: could you try 2 things: load up a previous kernel and test the trackpad from the guest account?
[03:57] <mindofmateo> lotuspsychje: I was just testing it in terminal, eg python3.5   >>> print("this is a test")    this is a test.  I also updated it.  I have no idea if screwing with python has anything to do with the installation/boot drive problem.
[03:58] <lotuspsychje> mindofmateo: perhaps you can test a few times reboot, to see if you can bypass the kernel error?
[03:59] <lotuspsychje> mindofmateo: for the python issue, its recommended you use package versions, specific for your ubuntu version
[03:59] <lotuspsychje> !latest | mindofmateo
[04:00] <Datz> lotuspsychje: I suppose that sounds like something I could do
[04:00] <Datz> lotuspsychje: I could just install an older kernel and select it at grub?
[04:01] <mindofmateo> I will try your reboot recommendation.  Also, regarding latest vs package version... I did not know that.
[04:01] <Datz> lotuspsychje: the trackpad works, it just doen't load for some reason.
[04:01] <lotuspsychje> Datz: well if you say 16.04 is the only Os you installed, older kernels should showup your list, if you didnt autoremove them?
[04:01] <mindofmateo> !ppa
[04:01] <Datz> lotuspsychje: that's true, I have not. I suppose I could try it
[04:02] <lotuspsychje> mindofmateo: also try the boot script Jordan_U advised
[04:02]  * Datz looks for an older kernel to boot to
[04:03] <mindofmateo> lotuspsychje: Ok, I have the link...  How do I use it?
[04:04] <Datz> lotuspsychje: the older kernel doesn't load it either
[04:05] <Datz> It's not a bad driver, it just doesn't load
[04:05] <lotuspsychje> Datz: ok, try the guest account now?
[04:05] <Datz> ok
[04:06]  * [Saint] discovers he has been carrying around the rtl8188eu module from lwfinger in dkms for a really long time without it actually being required
[04:06] <Datz> lotuspsychje: doesn't work with the guest account either.
[04:07] <lotuspsychje> Datz: that doesnt sound to hot
[04:07] <Datz> nope
[04:07] <lotuspsychje> Datz: you say you can make it work with the modprob restart right?
[04:08] <Datz> right
[04:09] <lotuspsychje> Datz: wich brand is your computer?
[04:09] <Datz> It's a lenovo y50-70
[04:10] <mindofmateo> lotuspsychje, Jordan_U: Rebooting to the boot drive still doesn't work, but I was able to boot into ubuntu recovery mode
[04:11] <lotuspsychje> Datz: can you check if your affected on this bug? https://bugs.launchpad.net/ubuntu/+source/linux/+bug/1546739
[04:12] <lotuspsychje> mindofmateo: can you boot into a liveusb 16.04 without the kernel error?
[04:13] <Dlabz> hi, all
[04:13]  * Datz will take a look
[04:14] <[Saint]> Hmmmm. Did I mess up removing this module from dkms...or? Is it supposed to orphan the module source in /usr/src/<module>-<version> ?
[04:14] <mindofmateo> lotuspsychje: I am trying at the moment.  In progress.
[04:14] <Dlabz> I was having issues with my server being unresponsive, than got access and seems someone from IP in china is torturing my postfix.. 15.10
[04:15] <mindofmateo> I still got the kernel error.
[04:15] <Dlabz> what's my best course of action?
[04:15] <Datz> lotuspsychje: I'm not sure how to tell if I am affected by it, but it was working fine after I fist installed 16.04, and it works fine after I load the module
[04:15] <lotuspsychje> Dlabz: you run ubuntu-server 15.10?
[04:15] <somsip> !info fail2ban | Datz
[04:15] <somsip> Dlabz: ^^^ (sorry Datz)
[04:15] <Dlabz> lotuspsychje: correct
[04:15] <Dlabz> it's a vm
[04:16] <Datz> somsip: np. lotuspsychje I do not
[04:16] <lotuspsychje> Dlabz: production or testbox?
[04:16] <Dlabz> dev box
[04:16] <Datz> Just my laptop..
[04:16] <Datz> oh.. nm
[04:16] <somsip> Dlabz: fail2ban would be my recommendation
[04:16] <lotuspsychje> Datz: perhaps start a new !bug to this
[04:16] <Dlabz> thanks
[04:17] <lotuspsychje> Datz: and explain the full story, your steps tested, etc
[04:17] <Dlabz> I'll set it up as soon as I get access to the erver again
[04:17] <Datz> lotuspsychje: ok, don't know if I've done this for a long while. Where's my starting point?
[04:17] <lotuspsychje> Datz: ubuntu-bug packagename from terminal will lead you to the right page
[04:18] <lotuspsychje> Datz: it will generate the right info for the bug, then fill in your story
[04:18] <Datz> lotuspsychje: oh interesting, thanks.
[04:19] <lotuspsychje> Datz: it requiers a launchpad account also
[04:19] <Datz> lotuspsychje: ah, I see. I'll get at that.. tomorrow.
[04:20] <Datz> thanks
[04:21] <lotuspsychje> [Saint]: its best to re-ask your full issue to the channel, so others can pickup easy
[04:28] <matie> https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=Z5nn2zf4yRQ
[04:30] <lotuspsychje> matie: not here please
[04:32] <[Saint]> lotuspsychje: That is the full issue - essentially, well...I'll clarify:
[04:32] <[Saint]> I removed a dkms module using 'dmks remove <module_name>/<module_version> --all', but the 'issue' if you can call it that is whether or not this should also remove the module source from /usr/src/<module_name> as well.
[04:33] <[Saint]> Rather which is broken - my syntax, or my expectation.
[04:45] <Lenovo> hello?
[04:45] <Lenovo> Is there anyone here that can help with Ubuntu Touch?
[04:47] <Lenovo> I am having trouble installing it on a Lenovo A8-50 or samsung galaxy tablet
[04:47] <xangua> ! Touch | Lenovo
[04:48] <Lenovo> thanks
[04:54] <sputniks> Night everybody
[04:54] <sputniks> ops..morning
[04:56] <Dlabz> somsip: I *think* i have it setup. Would you mind testing, to make sure?
[05:01] <somsip> Dlabz: not something I can do for you
[05:01] <Dlabz> somsip: I understand. Thank you, never the less
[05:02] <mindofmateo> Sometimes the audio icon is red when muted, and sometimes it is grey, does anyone know why this is?
[05:03] <neil_> i am using nmap to probe my network to see what IP respond ... using the command ... nmap -sP 10.0.0.0/8 ... is there anyway to get a progress report plus print any found computers as they are found?
[05:04] <Dlabz> somsip: it's working :D my fail2ban reads: 2016-05-27 05:03:33,735 fail2ban.actions        [2417]: NOTICE  [sshd] Ban 58.218.204.32
[05:05] <Dlabz> thanks again :)
[05:05] <lotuspsychje> Dlabz: also recommended to use LTS on server
[05:06] <lotuspsychje> neil_: the #nmap channel might know this perhaps
[05:06] <neil_> lotuspsychje, thanks I will try there
[05:07] <Dlabz> lotuspsychje: It's a dev box. I needed some new libraries. But will keep that in mind when going production
[05:11] <somsip> Dlabz: looks like you sorted it. See if that keeps them out :)
[05:27] <yotka> Hello everybody. It's been some time now that I've been trying to solve a wireless problem without success. Is anybody around who could help me troubleshooting it? The problem is that intermittently (usually after boot and suspend) I have a wireless connection, but no internet connection. See more details at https://bugzilla.gnome.org/show_bug.cgi?id=765578
[05:27] <yotka> I would really appreciate some help because it's so annoying.
[05:30] <lotuspsychje> yotka: i have a likewise bug, can you check syslog if you have dhcpdiscover errors?
[05:31] <lotuspsychje> yotka: here's mine: https://bugs.launchpad.net/ubuntu/+source/network-manager/+bug/1583114
[05:31] <yotka> lotuspsychje: I'll check
[05:33] <yotka> lotuspsychje: It just appeared once: dhclient[4082]: DHCPDISCOVER on enp0s31f6 to 255.255.255.255 port 67 interval 3 (xid=0x9d25754d)
[05:33] <yotka> See the attached file https://bug765578.bugzilla-attachments.gnome.org/attachment.cgi?id=326729
[05:34] <lotuspsychje> yotka: does sudo service network-manager restart fix your issue?
[05:37] <yotka> lotuspsychje: No..
[05:37] <yotka> I tried that and also sudo service networking restart
[05:38] <TheSilentLink> anyone know how to reset the greeter to the default unity one?
[05:38] <Vertel> Okay... this may be a bug. My rule table is empty in "ufw status" and "ufw status numbered" and "ufw insert 1 deny from [ipaddress] to any" is always failing with "Invalid position '1'". If I add a rule, any rule, then it succeeds. This seems like a bug to me.
[05:39] <lotuspsychje> yotka: i think current network-manager on xenial has a lot of issues, can you try the upstream version from my bug? perhaps add your story to my existing bug also? this might speed up things
[05:40] <yotka> lotuspsychje: ok, I'll do that and report back. Thanks
[05:40] <lotuspsychje> yotka: great!
[05:43] <yotka> lotuspsychje: Do you have a quick hint how to install the mentioned version 1.2.2 of NetworkManager that is mentioned? I'm using 1.2.0 currently
[05:44] <aekara170> kalhmera
[05:47] <lotuspsychje> yotka: i think a higher versions exists in the proposed repo
[05:50] <yotka> lotuspsychje: Ah, I didn't see that
[05:52] <rijack_> does anyone know how to change the default graphical text editor in xenial
[05:53] <lotuspsychje> mohankumar: be carefull with root on irc
[05:54] <mohankumar> lotuspsychje: sure !
[06:01] <evil_dan2wik> Hi
[06:02] <evil_dan2wik> do-release-upgrade was interrupted and now my package list is busted
[06:02] <evil_dan2wik> I only have http://archive.ubuntu.com/ubuntu xenial InRelease
[06:05] <lotuspsychje> evil_dan2wik: wich release did you upgrade from?
[06:05] <evil_dan2wik> 15.10
[06:06] <lotuspsychje> evil_dan2wik: checkout your sources and sudo apt update perhaps
[06:06] <ImHaKr> Hello
[06:07] <evil_dan2wik> I only get "Hit:1 http://archive.ubuntu.com/ubuntu xenial InRelease Reading package lists... Done" from apt update
[06:07] <evil_dan2wik> and how do I check sources?
[06:08] <lotuspsychje> evil_dan2wik: software&updates icon
[06:08] <evil_dan2wik> oh, ubuntu server btw
[06:09] <evil_dan2wik> ssh only, no physical access
[06:10] <lotuspsychje> evil_dan2wik: its not really recommended yet to upgrade the LTS way, is this a production server or testbox?
[06:11] <evil_dan2wik> test box
[06:11] <lotuspsychje> kk
[06:11] <lotuspsychje> !sources | evil_dan2wik
[06:11] <evil_dan2wik> I can do a complete re-install, I'd just prefer to no set all this back up again
[06:11] <yotka> lotuspsychje: 1.2.2 doesn't appear in my xenial-proposed list
[06:11] <yotka> lotuspsychje: it's still 1.2.0 there
[06:12] <aekara170> its a little dificult to get in here
[06:12] <lotuspsychje> yotka: even after apt update?
[06:13] <lotuspsychje> yotka: you could also test a 16.10 liveusb, there's a higher nm version also
[06:14] <evil_dan2wik> lotuspsychje, http://ts.dan2wik.com/sources.list
[06:14] <evil_dan2wik> It looks cut off
[06:15] <yotka> lotuspsychje: Yes, I ran aptitude update and then sudo aptitude -t xenial-proposed, but I can only find 1.2.0 there
[06:19] <evil_dan2wik> There we go, I generated a new sources.list and it is working
[06:26] <ljhade24>  which mail client do you use? thunderbird? evolution? geary?
[06:29] <yotka> ljhade24: I like Thunderbird best
[06:30] <ljhade24> yotka: do you use calendar with thunderbird??
[06:31] <ljhade24> I heard evolution gives more complete/tightly working calendar features and this is why I'm asking about it
[06:32] <ducasse> ljhade24: claws is also good, it has a calendar plugin also.
[06:32] <yotka> ljhade24: Yes
[06:33] <ljhade24> ducasse: thanks! I'll give it a try
[06:33] <tasslehoff> External displays made my T460s freeze on 16.04. I installed an upgraded kernel, and now it only freezes occasionally.. http://pastebin.com/qpTJU9Bu
[06:37] <jatin30> I am getting this error can someone help please http://imgur.com/w4DQvav ?
[06:40] <yotka> tasslehoff: I haven't managed to use an external display so far. It's frustrating.
[06:40] <ducasse> jatin30: try without the parentheses.
[06:42] <jatin30> ducasse: it worked thanks!
[06:43] <tasslehoff> yotka: it worked all day yesterday, but today it freezes every time I log in.
[06:44] <evil_dan2wik> Just out of curiosity, would it be possible to convert ubuntu server to ubuntu desktop?
[06:45] <ducasse> evil_dan2wik: sure, just install ubuntu-desktop with apt or use tasksel.
[06:45] <evil_dan2wik> ok, thats cool.
[06:47] <yotka> tasslehoff: are you using hdmi? I'd really like to get that working..
[06:52] <tasslehoff> yotka: yes. after installing 4.5.2-040502-generic hdmi started working better. trying to figure out if a fix is being backported to an official 16.04 kernel
[06:53] <tasslehoff> doesn't feel good to start my 16.04 life by installing a bleeding edge kernel :)
[06:54] <yotka> tasslehoff: Yeah, I just installed 4.6 yesterday because of a different problem.. But didn't solve neither that nor the monitor issue
[06:55] <mrbeans> how can i restart my network service?
[06:56] <yotka> mrbeans: sudo service networking restart
[06:56] <yotka> I think
[06:56] <tasslehoff> or possibly systemctl restart networking
[06:57] <mrbeans> thanks
[07:03] <netlar> Hi all
[07:06] <zamba> /
[07:10] <erebus^> If I have a large USB drive running a live Ubuntu image, is there a way to create a "shared" partition using the remaining space? For an easy backup stick?
[07:15] <tasslehoff> yotka: someone says it works with 4.6: https://bugs.launchpad.net/ubuntu/+source/linux/+bug/1550779
[07:19] <willhunt> Hi, my /home now is a directory, I want to have /home as its own partition, how to do it?
[07:20] <somsip> !movehome | willhunt
[07:21] <willhunt> Thanks!
[07:24] <miracle633> Loving the fresh software, guys. I'm getting a new Ubuntu base almost every day now.
[07:26] <mindofmateo> What determines the location on the screen when a terminal opens?  Note, I understand there are ways to configure specific sizes and location upon initialization of a terminal window, but I'm wondering how/why it shows up where it does by default.
[07:28] <scag> Hi, does anyone know of any up to date documentation on setting up a diskless ubuntu environment ?
[07:29] <tasslehoff> yotka_: this is written to you from a weechat on my external monitor :p
[07:30] <scag> Just to confirm I mean documentation on diskless booting not thinclient booting
[07:34] <adac> Guys how do I start the openvpn service in ubuntu 16:04? A  /etc/init.d/openvpn status gives me the follwing: https://gist.github.com/anonymous/5eb5c84e3fc019587de46ccfaa5d7fcf but no process is running
[07:36] <rilleh> adac: systemctl start openvpn
[07:37] <rilleh> systemctl enable openvpn to make it start at boot
[07:37] <adac> rilleh, I tried that butstill no process is running
[07:38] <rilleh> Check the logs
[07:38] <rilleh> And journalctl
[07:41] <codfection> http://paste.ubuntu.com/16727227/
[07:42] <codfection> please help anyone?
[07:44] <mindofmateo> codfection: what are you trying to do?
[07:44] <codfection> mindofmateo, trying to run python file
[07:53] <ghost_> hi
[07:53] <ghost_> hello giys
[07:53] <ghost_> giys
[07:53] <ghost_> fuck typo
[07:57] <yotka> tasslehoff: now I'm wondering if the problem is my cable..
[08:03] <erebus^> After I've used a USB stick for a live image, I get "The driver descriptor says the physical block size is 2048 bytes, but Linux says it is 512 bytes." when I try to format it. Why is this?
[08:14] <Ulrar> Hi, I have a problem on trusty. /etc/init.d/ssh restart returns 1, and service ssh restart is stuck on "ssh stop/waiting"
[08:15] <Ulrar> How can I apply the configuration ?
[08:17] <adac> rilleh, the log (syslog) is not very verbose it just states that the server is started
[08:17] <nickjoe> i can read exfat but not write to it what am i doing wrong?
[08:18] <rilleh> adac: Enable debug loggin for the openvpn process itself in openvpn.conf
[08:18] <adac> rilleh, kk
[08:19] <rilleh> Also check syslog and maybe even strace
[08:19] <rilleh> My guess is that openvpn has poor or no support for systemd
[08:20] <Simplar> Hello. How can I configure Atheros ar5008x Wireless controller with Ubuntu 16.04?
[08:21] <miu> bonjour
[08:25] <emr> Hello, i just installed v4l2loopback-dkms via apt, however when i try to insert raising modprobe: FATAL: Module v4l2loopback not found.
[08:32] <sl4ck> Does ubuntu 14.04 is still supported ?
[08:32] <leeyaa> hi
[08:33] <jose__> hello
[08:33] <leeyaa> after upgrade to 16.04 from 14.04 i want to use http2 on the new apache (i know it is in development)
[08:33] <leeyaa> however i can not see the module anywhere in /etc/apache2
[08:33] <sl4ck> Does ubuntu 14.04 is still supported ?
[08:33] <leeyaa> it is supposed to ship with http2
[08:33] <leeyaa> sl4ck: it is supported for a long time
[08:33] <leeyaa> 16.04 is not even released yet
[08:34] <sl4ck> thnks leeyaa
[08:34] <akik> leeyaa: 16.04 was released last month
[08:34] <robotti^> leeyaa: ubuntu 16.04 is released :)
[08:35] <robotti^> yep. last month
[08:35] <leeyaa> robotti^: not the prod ready (.01 release)
[08:35] <akik> leeyaa: please stop spreading fud
[08:35] <leeyaa> akik: even the official docs say 16.04 is not ready for production yet
[08:36] <leeyaa> anyway, how to enable http2 after the upgrade ?
[08:36] <akik> leeyaa: i'd like to see that official doc. url?
[08:37] <leeyaa> akik: "LTS systems are only automatically considered for an upgrade to the next LTS via do-release-upgrade with the first point release"
[08:38] <leeyaa> https://help.ubuntu.com/lts/serverguide/installing-upgrading.html
[08:38] <akik> leeyaa: yes it's talking about upgrade
[08:38] <leeyaa> akik: so you are saying the server version is ready before that for prod use ?
[08:39] <leeyaa> thats if one decides to build his stuff from scratch
[08:39] <akik> leeyaa: yes non-upgrade installation is released, 16.04 lts
[08:39] <leeyaa> i see
[08:39] <leeyaa> ok sorry then
[08:39] <akik> leeyaa: yes, it has bugs, but so does everything
[08:40] <leeyaa> akik: well im waiting at least 6 months more before upgrading. for now just testing
[08:41] <leeyaa> back to the question - how to enable http2 for apache2 after upgrade
[08:41] <leeyaa> it appears module is missing
[08:42] <TomJackson> Hello
[08:43] <TomJackson> yo
[08:43] <TomJackson> Hello?
[08:45] <TomJackson> Hi
[08:45] <great> hello
[08:45] <leeyaa> https://bugs.launchpad.net/ubuntu/+source/apache2/+bug/1568087
[08:45] <hateball> !hi | TomJackson
[08:45] <TomJackson> Hows life?
[08:45] <leeyaa> sigh now i know
[08:45] <hateball> hmmm
[08:45] <hateball> !help | TomJackson
[08:45] <TomJackson> ok
[08:46] <nattmat> Hello! Im trying to compile using gcc on a ARM Tegra running ubuntu 14.04. The code compiles fine on x86, but on ARM it cannot link pthreads (e.g. error: unknown type name ‘pthread_rwlock_t’)
[08:49] <CodyTim86> Hello
[08:58] <billydaz> Hello
[08:59] <billydaz> I have this issue on trusty while trying to launch Openvas
[08:59] <billydaz> openvasmd: symbol lookup error: openvasmd: undefined symbol: osp_get_scanner_details
[09:03] <aLeSD> hi all. Is it possible to install 14.04 into a chroot ?
[09:03] <LinnLonn> Hello friends. I'm on Ubuntu 14.04. I'm trying to digitally sign a pdf (with cryptography, not a pen) but Okular doesn't support it. I have zero experience with crypto and GPG. I've successfully created a keypair using KGPG. According to the directions, the digitally signature should show up IN the pdf.
[09:04] <brunch875> does "make install" typically use the same locations to install software as apt-get?
[09:04] <ducasse> aLeSD: yes, check debootstrap.
[09:04] <brunch875> I tend to dump everything into /opt
[09:10] <bst11> hi I just finished with a fresh installation, actually, reinstallation of wordpress on my local machine and when i head to the page it appears completely blank no error at all. can anyone help?
[09:12] <MonkeyDust> aLeSD  yes, i tried it once, but it was only a very basic trusty installation, just enough to make it run
[09:13] <aLeSD> MonkeyDust, thanks
[09:13] <MonkeyDust> aLeSD  and no GUI programs are installed
[09:14] <Triffid_Hunter> hm.. samba : Depends: samba-libs (= 2:4.2.10+dfsg-0+deb8u2) but 2:4.2.10+dfsg-0+deb8u1 is installed.. what do I do about this? tried update again to no avail
[09:14] <MonkeyDust> aLeSD  paste this line in a terminal  (it's one line) ... sudo mkdir /var/chroot;sudo apt-get install debootstrap dchroot;sudo debootstrap --variant=buildd --arch amd64 trusty /var/chroot/ http://ftp.belnet.be/ubuntu.com/ubuntu/;sudo mount -o bind /proc /var/chroot/proc;sudo cp /etc/resolv.conf /var/chroot/etc/resolv.conf;sudo chroot /var/chroot
[09:16] <Triffid_Hunter> oh tried to install something else and it suggested apt-get -f intall, looks like it's fixing itself now.. why doesn't it work that stuff out automatically?
[09:18] <Steven_M> Hi all
[09:28] <kzrgr> is there any guide that actually works on how to install Compton on Xubuntu?
[09:28] <kzrgr> anyone knows?
[09:29] <Steven_M> when you get a password prompt in gnome (when you unlock a section in Settings), does it use sudo as the backend?
[09:33] <tomkmem> Hi, is anyone else having issues with /usr/sbin/fanctl ? it seems a bit flakey to me. fails with not much indication of what i's not happy about
[09:34] <tomkmem> if i run /usr/sbin/fanctl net start wlan0 . then echo $? just returns 1.
[09:37] <ikonia> the_ant: is that even a valid command ?
[09:37] <ikonia> oops
[09:37] <ikonia> tomkmem: is that even a valid command for fanctl ?
[09:38] <ikonia> http://manpages.ubuntu.com/manpages/xenial/man8/fanctl.8.html
[09:38] <ikonia> looking at the man page that doesn't look valid
[09:38] <tomkmem> that's what /etc/network/if-up.d/ubuntu-fan runs. i didn't write that file
[09:38] <ikonia> have a look at the man page, it doesn't look valid
[09:39] <tomkmem> i'll keep debugging it but something doesn't look right.
[09:40] <Steven_M> ikonia: Hi, are you a dev?
[09:41] <ikonia> Steven_M: dev of what ?
[09:41] <Steven_M> ikonia: Ubuntu
[09:42] <ikonia> ubuntu is made up of many parats
[09:42] <ikonia> parts
[09:42] <ikonia> Steven_M: why don't you just ask the actual question you need help with
[09:43] <Steven_M> ikonia: when you get a password prompt in gnome (eg when you unlock a section in Settings), does it use sudo as the backend?
[09:43] <tomkmem> ikonia: take a look at your /etc/network/if-up.d/ubuntu-fan +29
[09:44] <ikonia> Steven_M: no
[09:44] <ikonia> tomkmem: not got a box to hand
[09:44] <ikonia> Steven_M: it uses policy kit to elevate your privileges
[09:44] <tomkmem> ah no worries, but the file is untouched and supplied by package ubuntu-fan 0.9.0
[09:45] <Ben64> tomkmem: pastebin it
[09:46] <Ben64> use paste.ubuntu.com or something, not actually pastebin i guess
[09:49] <marco__> ciao
[09:49] <marco__> ciao
[09:58] <backbox_> x-hunter
[10:01] <Steven_M> ikonia: Thanks. I unlocked the root user account (set a root password), is there anyway of getting policy kit to require the root password instead of my password?
[10:05] <aLeSD> how could I mount automatically the porc, home filesystems when I enter schroot ? config script seems to not work anymore
[10:12] <ducasse> aLeSD: use a container instead.
[10:12] <rilleh> Anyone been able to get two finger swipe to go back/forward in the browser on a Dell XPS?
[10:12] <rilleh> Ubuntu 16.04
[10:13] <aLeSD> ducasse, what do u mean ?
[10:13] <rilleh> I have tried Easystroke but I can't figure out how it works
[10:14] <MonkeyDust> aLeSD  ducasse means this ... plenty youtube clips about it can be found too ... https://help.ubuntu.com/lts/serverguide/lxc.html
[10:15] <aLeSD> ok
[10:15] <ducasse> aLeSD: a container would actually give you a full, isolated running system.
[10:16] <aLeSD> ducasse, may I run UI app ?
[10:16] <ducasse> aLeSD: if you mean gui, yes.
[10:16] <Steven_M> I unlocked the root user account (set a root password), is there anyway of getting policy kit to require the root password instead of my password?
[10:16] <aLeSD> ok thanks. I will go that way
[10:17] <brunch875> Steven: you mean something like removing yourself from having sudo permissions?
[10:20] <Steven_M> brunch875: sort of, although sudo is configured to ask for my root password, and is working fine, it's the GUI stuff giving me problems.
[10:20] <ducasse> Steven_M: if you need to mess with policy kit i strongly suggest you read the documentation.
[10:21] <Steven_M> ducasse: okay
[10:22] <Steven_M> night all :)
[10:24] <steven> Brunost: thats literally not what I meant
[10:24] <steven> brunch875: ^
[10:24] <archer121> Does anyone have any experience using a RFID Reader/Writer with linux?
[10:27] <brunch875> sorry, I crashed and missed the chat :s
[10:31] <Frank980> Hi everybody
[10:33] <Tennis> Hi Frank
[10:36] <Frank980> when installing Ubuntu 16.04 on a system with multiple disks, the installer at one point tells me it will delete all my data if I proceed. I have multiple harddisks and only want Ubuntu on one disk. Will I be able to choose the target disk at a later step or will it really format *all* installed harddisks?
[10:37] <ducasse> Frank980: use the manual partitioning option of the installer and you will be fine.
[10:38] <Frank980> ducasse: I want an encrypted LVM setup. The 14.04 installer created /boot (ext2) and /boot/efi (VFAT?) partitions that I don't know I still need. what would be the automatic LVM layout for 16.04 so I can duplicate it?
[10:39] <Frank980> ducasse: thanks!
[10:40] <ducasse> Frank980: if you want encrypted lvm and you use an uefi system you will need both /boot and /boot/efi.
[10:41] <BluesKaj> Howdy folks
[10:45] <anes_> Dear Friends , i am using pinguy builder for creating iso.. as part of it added custom.seed for 'preseed' purpose ... my preseed file is : http://pastie.org/10854798
[10:45] <anes_> but my concern is it will work or not
[10:45] <bazhang> anes_, find the pinguy support channel
[10:46] <bazhang>  /msg alis list pinguy    anes_
[10:46] <anes_> bazhang: it's not relevancy of pinguy
[10:46] <anes_> we use the standard of preseed.cfg
[10:46] <bazhang> anes_, sure it is, find their channel or check ##linux
[10:46] <helium> How to cross compile linux kernel for x86 architecture  on x86_64 Ubuntu
[10:46] <helium> ?
[10:48] <BluesKaj> helium, no need, 32 bit apps will on 64 bit ubuntu
[10:49] <ducasse> BluesKaj: that's not what he asked, he wants to compile a 32-bit kernel for another machine on a 64-bit system :)
[10:50] <helium> No, Actually I'm trying  to optimise a network device  deriver which runs on x86 architecture.  So, I need to compile that driver on my x86_64 Ubuntu
[10:51] <BluesKaj> ducasse, ok why compile helium, whynot just use 32 bit OS
[10:51] <helium> Oh man , what are you talking
[10:51] <BluesKaj> helium, sounds like a candidate for using a container
[10:52] <BluesKaj> helium,, ok nm, I'll back off
[10:52] <helium> I think everybody here is aware of what I'm talking about except you
[10:53] <anes_> bazhang: I am working with ubuntu and thought the ubuntu guys can help me on this. I will happy if i found solution here. :)
[10:53] <ducasse> helium: no need to be rude, he was just trying to help.
[10:53] <BluesKaj> helium, ok no mnned to be rude
[10:53] <EriC^^> helium: stay noble
[10:53] <EriC^^> </chemistry joke>
[10:54] <helium> ok
[10:54] <BluesKaj> hey EriC^^
[10:54] <EriC^^> hey BluesKaj
[10:55] <helium> anybody has any solution?
[10:55] <uwe> hi, well, we have 16.04 server placing (the) two paths to a SAN-LUN into different multipath maps (multipath-tools are 0.5.0+git1.656f8865-5ubuntu2). Compared to multipath-tools (0.4.9-3ubuntu7.11 on 14.04) we see a shortened (UUID/WWID) in DM_NAME. E.g. /lib/udev/scsi_id shows complete 3600d023100000047000000000e710648 for both paths while "udevadm info" shows only 3200000d023500047 and 3200000d023700047; thus preventing multipath from 
[10:55] <BluesKaj> maybe anoher coffee will help :-)
[10:55] <Gamoder_> Hi everyone, I am using ubuntu 14.04 (?, I forgot how I look that up, it is a headless odroid C1) and my wlan adapter tells me I got really many tx excessive retries (329040) and many invalid misc (44668). I also have a really slow connection and lots of connection losses. What can I do to avoid that?
[10:56] <hateball> helium: googling brings up http://kernelnewbies.org/FAQ/KernelCrossCompilation (which I have not tried myself)
[10:57] <k1l_> Gamoder_: "lsb_release -d" will tell the release version
[10:57] <Gamoder_> yes, it is 14.04.3 LTS
[10:58] <Gamoder_> and strangely, my wlan router claims it sends only 13 Mbit, while the wlan0 bit rate is set to 28.9 Mb/s
[11:00] <Ben64> seems like you just need a better connection
[11:01] <Ben64> use ethernet or a better antenna or better wifi adapter or better router or a combination of these options
[11:02] <Gamoder_> I got a new router from my ISP. Before that, I never had great problems, but now I have. But since it is a new router, the connection should be better, not worse, so I guess it is more a compatibility problem
[11:03] <ducasse> Gamoder_: 'new' does not mean 'better'.
[11:03] <Ben64> and ones provided by the ISP aren't usually very awesome
[11:03] <k1l_> Gamoder_: some wifi chips have issues with n-speed. look up what exact wifi card that is and if that is a known issue
[11:04] <Gamoder_> it has a MediaTek(Ralink) RT5572N chipset
[11:05] <Gamoder_> how can I look whether my device is actually connected via b, g or n?
  I have already tried it. Its not working
[11:06] <MoPac> I've started experiencing a weird regression where all my CPU cores get stuck at 800MHz (min value), seemingly at random during a session. The twist is that I can't even rouse them by manually setting higher scaling_min_freq.
[11:06] <l1meon> identify
[11:07] <ducasse> MoPac: try another kernel, file a bug.
[11:07] <MoPac> Changing the governor also has no effect -- I have to shut down and restart, crossing my fingers that it won't start off pegged to min
[11:08] <MoPac> ducasse: So you would say this is a kernel issue rather than something to do with an intel_pstate flag or a bad BIOS setting?
[11:09] <ducasse> MoPac: i'm saying the kernel team is in a position to know, and they can tell you if you file bug.
[11:09] <ducasse> MoPac: and if one kernel works and another doesn't, that would likely rule out bios settings.
[11:34] <a_ok> So I just installed php-fpm on ubuntu 16.04. I get a nice WSOD but no errors.
[11:34] <a_ok> What do I need to do to debug this?
[11:34] <AlexPortable> I created a custom debian/ubuntu iso with txt.cfg and isolinux.cfg. How do I do the same for uefi?
[11:37] <jpmh> I have a ubuntu 14.4LTS system and sshd connections are working perfectly.  But, in the auth.log file I see: pam_systemd(sshd:session): Failed to create session: No such file or directory - what is missing here?
[11:43] <xro_> Hi, i try to mount my Android device on my ubuntu laptop. I configured MTP on my android device and installed mtpfs & mtp-tools on my laptop. but i can't see my phone. Have you an idea ?
[11:49] <danielfrieling> Hi. I have a strange problem with my thinkpad t460 ubuntu 16.04: When connected to the wifi, I cannot ping (or ssh) to other clients in my wifi network. When I ask colleagues in the same wifi, they can ping each other. do you know possible reasons?
[11:50] <bhuddah> danielfrieling: you might have a wifi with a feature called "client isolation"
[11:51] <danielfrieling> bhuddah: you mean as a feature on client side? Because it seems not to be a feature of the wifi infrastructure because other clients can ping each other while they're on the same network.
[11:51] <bhuddah> danielfrieling: if you already checked that then fine. then it's something else.
[11:53] <danielfrieling> what's weird also: if I ping any other machine (which is pingable from other machines), I get "Destination Host Unreachable". It seems to be hardware/software related on client-side (my machine)
[11:56] <anes_> Hi friends , i try preseed using pinguy , but not working my preseed is : http://pastie.org/10854841,custom.seed file
[11:57] <OerHeks> anes_, pinguy is not ubuntu.
[11:58] <anes_> pls all are based on preseed.cfg
[11:58] <MonkeyDust> anes_  there's also #PinguyOs, but only 4 people there
[11:59] <anes_> MonkeyDust: It's not helpful
[12:01] <MonkeyDust> anes_  true, this channel is not useful for your question
[12:02] <OerHeks> anes_, this example maybe any help https://help.ubuntu.com/lts/installation-guide/example-preseed.txt
[12:05] <anes_> How to add automatic Ubiquity option?
[12:06] <ducasse> anes_: use ubuntu, then we could help.
[12:08] <MonkeyDust> anes_  try in ##linux
[12:09] <ootani> こんばんは
[12:10] <soon> æøå
[12:10] <BluesKaj> !jp | ootani
[12:11] <ootani> linux　mint　１７．３をつかっています
[12:12] <DJones> !mint | ootani
[12:14] <BluesKaj> ootani: 日本語の場合は  または /join #linux-mint irc.spotchat.org を入力して下さい。
[12:14] <BluesKaj> ;-)
[12:15] <xro_> nobody ? Hi, i try to mount my Android device on my ubuntu laptop. I configured MTP on my android device and installed mtpfs & mtp-tools on my laptop. but i can't see my phone. Have you an idea ?
[12:16] <naomi> xro_: So the device isn't showing up in your File browser (e.g. Nautilus)?
[12:17] <ootani> are you japanese?
[12:18] <BluesKaj> ootani, no
[12:18] <ootani> i'm
[12:19] <BluesKaj> yes I see that
[12:19] <ootani> i'm looking for japanese
[12:19] <naomi> xro_:  What is the contents of the folders in /dev/disk/? (Check all folders, by-uuid, by-path, by-id that might match to your Android device)
[12:20] <DJones> ootani: /join #ubuntu-jp they may be able to help, but they may point you to to join #linux-mint on irc.spotchat.org which is where the Mint support channel is
[12:20] <BluesKaj> ootani,  http://linuxmint-jp.net/contact.html
[12:22] <xro_> naomi, yes nothing in nautilus. I did a ls /dev/disk/by-id and by-uuid and i don't see new ID when i plug my phone
[12:22] <atracht> is there a good guide for how nfs permissions work or is it as simple as the rw flag in /etc/exports
[12:23] <MonkeyDust> atracht  you have to restart nfs-kernel after each modification, but it's that simple, as you say
[12:24] <MonkeyDust> !nfs
[12:24] <atracht> MonkeyDust so If I'm on a client machine for a web server do I have to give correct permissions to the mount directory too?
[12:25] <MonkeyDust> atracht  i don't remember ever doing that, so no
[12:25] <naomi> xro_: Have you been able to mount other devices before (e.g. USB flash drives)?
[12:26] <atracht> MonkeyDust so if you mount a rw directory at say /var/www any user can write to that?
[12:28] <xro_> naomi, yes usbstick, my ethernet adapter and android phone (but it does not work anymore)
[12:28] <MonkeyDust> atracht  yes, if it's 766
[12:28] <MonkeyDust> or even 755 is sufficient, not sure
[12:29] <ducasse> MonkeyDust: exportfs -r will reload the exports list, i don't think restarting the server is required.
[12:29] <MonkeyDust> ducasse  great, didnt know that option, i learn every day
[12:30] <ducasse> MonkeyDust: me too, that's the reason i hang out here :)
[12:31] <naomi> xro_: Has anything changed with your Android phone since it was connecting (e.g. updated Android OS, updated Arch, new apps)? Also, what occurs on the computer when you choose an option on the Android device aside from MTP (like doing charging or setting it as a Internet device for the computer to use)?
[12:35] <xro_> naomi, some phone upgrades and ubuntu upgrades :-)   but i set MTP on my phone
[12:39] <xro_> naomi, i try to transfer a file from my phone to my laptop since 1h... I'll try to change the cable
[12:40] <loa> hello! how i can disable bluetooth on start up? i don't need it.
[12:41] <loa> i think there is way to do this with systemd or even blacklist module for bluetooth, but i want be able to enable it back fast.
[12:41] <naomi> xro_: Could also check to see if the cable was working by setting it to Charge mode and see if gets any power to the device.
[12:42] <xro_> naomi, suicide... my cable was working for charging but not for MTP... I tried a new one and it works...
[12:42] <naomi> xro_: So MTP works with the new cable?
[12:43] <xro_> naomi, yes
[12:43] <naomi> xro_: Excellent :)
[12:43] <MonkeyDust> loa  try this, but be careful    sudo sysv-rc-conf
[12:43] <xro_> naomi, i debugged my settings 1 hours to finally change my cable !
[12:43] <naomi> Must be some damaged pins/lines in the cable, allowing charging but not data transfer.
[12:44] <naomi> xro_: Haha, you aren't the only one.
[12:44] <xro_> naomi, shame on me, i'm a network guy
[12:44] <loa> MonkeyDust, you know rfkill right?
[12:45] <loa> MonkeyDust, when i logged in can disable wifi and bluetooth using rfkill block bluetooth from console and enable it back with gui. So i tried to add it to rc.local, but have no luck with this. looks like it actiavated again with gui tools.
[12:46] <blb3383> hi, what jabber client to use in 2016? psi-plus has dependencies to qt4, gajim has dependencies to python2.7. Pidgin is a monster with 52MiB dependencies
[12:46] <aLeSD> ducasse, IK created the container ... but how can I log in ? My user is not working when I start the consele ?
[12:46] <loa> Maybe it is really better just blacklist module for bluetooth.
[12:46] <loa> it will be very rare when i need bluetooth
[12:46] <MonkeyDust> loa  rfkill is for wifi, yes
[12:48] <arussel> using gnome, when I press the Windows menu, it shows a list of keyboard short cut. Where can they be modified ? I've tried settings -> keyboard and gnome tweak, but none of the shortcut are impacted
[12:48] <ducasse> aLeSD: either 1) read the fine manual or 2) chroot into the container and create/fix the user manually
[12:53] <naomi> xro_: Glad it is fixed now though.
[13:06] <steven> I remember being "moved out" of this room cos I installed ubuntu 16.04 two weeks prior its official stable release and I said something like it's just smarter to install a release prior a couple weeks to its release than dist upgrading an older one
[13:07] <steven> I just can't remember the name of the lovely OP who kicked me for this statement :/
[13:07] <Pici> steven: does it matter?
[13:07] <Myrtti> steven: so do you have a support question you need help with now?
[13:07] <steven> yes, cos I just dist upgraded an really bare ubuntu 14.04 to xenial (simple lamp stack and running weechat) and it literally just broke so badly
[13:08] <steven> apt is basically unusable
[13:08] <Pici> steven: well, the 14.04 to 16.04 path is not officially open at this time.
[13:08] <ducasse> steven: because you did not read the release notes.
[13:08] <steven> oh its not a prod server anyway, I dont really care about it. I just find it ridiculous for being kicked out of saying something honest :D
[13:09] <steven> imma just reinstall the server, its simply faster than figuring out how and what exactly broke
[13:10] <BluesKaj> steven, now that you've vented, do you have a question?
[13:10] <steven> I was just trying to get him to explain to me why installing something 2 weeks prior stable release is more dangerous than dist upgrading, when a dist upgrade literally fails every single time
[13:10] <steven> BluesKaj: now I am done :D
[13:10] <\9> upgrading 2 weeks prior to release is very dumb advice
[13:10] <steven> I never said upgrading, I was setting up a fresh and clean server
[13:11] <\9> doesn't really matter, it still is dumb
[13:11] <\9> you're upgrading to an unstable system
[13:12] <BluesKaj> if it's not a production machine then it's not so bad if it's "experimental" :-)
[13:12] <steven> you are aware that 2 weeks prior to a release everything is frozen, right? its just some tiny translation work and other tiny bits worked on at that point
[13:13] <steven> its dumb to say "install 1404 THEN dist upgrade in a month cos the new LTS is not stable enough since the team didnt officially call it stable yet"
[13:13] <yildiz> hello
[13:13] <\9> you're supposed to upgrade from 14.04 to 16.04 in july when the 16.04.1 patch is released
[13:13] <steven> but anyway BluesKaj since every apt command fails, is there a nice way to just hard reset it, force remove / install / configure everything it might have an issue with
[13:14] <\9> and even if it's frozen, if you upgrade to 16.04 prematurely you land on an unsupported system
[13:14] <BluesKaj> ok steven, you've made your point , can we move on
[13:14] <steven> I moved on, but he wont stop
[13:14] <\9> me? it's you who keeps talking..
[13:14] <ducasse> steven: #ubuntu-offtopic for rants, this channel is for support
[13:15] <VietnamFlashback> whats a good screen recorder to use with ubuntu if i wanna record gameplay and general whole screen
[13:15] <steven> I just told you that was setting up a new machine, well aware of what I am doing and using, and got kicked for saying "I'd rather install LTS prior two weeks the release than dist upgrading it in a few months"
[13:15] <EriC^^> VietnamFlashback: recordmydesktop , dunno about quality with gameplay though
[13:15] <steven> you dont agree? awesome. you dont have to \9
[13:15] <steven> but you also dont need to lecture me about what is considered unstable
[13:15] <EriC^^> steven: sounds like you're bored at work
[13:15] <OerHeks> steven, please stop the rant.
[13:16] <VietnamFlashback> EriC^^, i thought about that with the quality drop with gameplay
[13:16] <lyze> VietnamFlashback, obs-studio. you can use that to stream and to record, have multiple scenes you can switch. you can add images and other things to the scene
[13:16] <steven> EriC^^ pssh :)
[13:16] <lyze> VietnamFlashback, https://obsproject.com/download
[13:16] <VietnamFlashback> lyze, i forgot obs was compatable with linux
[13:16] <VietnamFlashback> i can livestream aswell
[13:16] <VietnamFlashback> sweet
[13:17] <lyze> Yeah it's awesome that they are currently rewriting the thing so that it's multi platform compatible
[13:17] <EriC^^> does that work with projectM recording?
[13:18] <\9> is there any particular date when 15.10 stops being supported, or is it just july?
[13:19] <harishkrupo> mostly the end of july
[13:19] <\9> I'm currently a little stuck on 15.10 because of radeon
[13:19] <Kimse> How to get lxc-net restart to restart dnsmsaq ?
[13:19] <harishkrupo> isint it supported in 16.04?
[13:20] <\9> the fglrx driver was removed completely
[13:20] <danielfrieling> exit
[13:20] <\9> which means that in 16.04 there's only low-quality open source drivers available
[13:20] <\9> which I'm not particularly thrilled about
[13:20] <harishkrupo> you always have some ppa in which it will be available
[13:20] <BluesKaj> \9, what about the amdgpu driver ?
[13:20] <\9> I thought that was not in any usable condition?
[13:21] <\9> it's hard to find information about it
[13:21] <xro_> naomi, yes thank you for your help ! ++
[13:21] <BluesKaj> xserver-xorg-video-amdgpu
[13:22] <\9> !info xserver-xorg-video-amdgpu
[13:22] <\9> hmm
[13:23] <BluesKaj> \9 dunno about it on 15.10 tho
[13:23] <\9> it appears to exist
[13:24] <\9> except its version appears to be "0.0.01~git20150807-0ubuntu1"
[13:24] <BluesKaj> \9 think it depends a lot on your specific gpu , works for some on 16.04 and others not
[13:24] <\9> which doesn't really inspire me to try it on 15.10
[13:25] <\9> it's a Radeon HD 6310
[13:25] <Kimse> https://bugs.launchpad.net/ubuntu/+source/lxc/+bug/1389849 <-- That bug says "fixed released" how to get that fix?
[13:25] <BluesKaj> but thta that's the nature of the amd beast nowadays
[13:25] <Kimse> "fix released"*
[13:26] <\9> I guess I should try it in a live session
[13:27] <harishkrupo> \quit
[13:28] <OerHeks> Kimse, the fix is in the 1st answer, but this bugreport is old, sure you encounter this?
[13:28] <noobik> hello, im on ubuntu live and i merged unallocated space on my HDD to windows partition through gparted, but its taking too long (it says 2 hours). is it normal?
[13:29] <Kimse> OerHeks: yes, I've had the issue before. I used the fix in the comment. I wasn't aware that the status means to look in the comments
[13:29] <sipior> noobik: depending on how full the disk was, yes, that doesn't sound like a crazy figure
[13:30] <OerHeks> Kimse, not sure what the status is today, 2nd instance of dnsmask
[13:32] <noobik> sipior: disk isnt full. total size 1 TB, unallocated space 540 GB, partition 390 GB (used only 90 GB)
[13:35] <naomi> xro_: Welcome!
[13:36] <sipior> noobik: sounds about right.
[13:41] <OlofL> what is best tool to block IPs from accessing ssh after too many auth fails?
[13:41] <OlofL> fail2ban?
[13:42] <SchrodingersScat> OlofL: that's one way, after x many tries it'll block them for y minutes
[13:42] <Seveas> OlofL: fail2ban is good
[13:43] <OlofL> hope it's lightweight. gonna install on raspi1 server
[13:43] <Seveas> though I'd also add something like duo for two-factor auth
[13:43] <spiffyk> Hi. Is there a good way of installing 0ad's (or any other bigger game's for the matter) data onto my 1TB HDD (mounted at /mnt/tbdisk)?
[13:46] <freerider> @OlofL: a better setup would be to only use keys instead of passwords for athentication.
[13:46] <OerHeks> freerider +1 and other port than the standard ones
[13:50] <pw1337> #IBTEAM
[13:50] <pw1337> assalamualaikum
[13:50] <pw1337> how to join chanel irc?
[13:51] <OerHeks>  /join <channel>
[13:53] <jpmh> when logging on all goes well but the auth.log file shows: pam_systemd(su:session): Failed to create session: No such file or directory - this is 14.4 what am I missing
[13:57] <Snackerr> hello, is there a guide on how to install Ubuntu with ZFS?
[13:57] <cscf> Snackerr, ZFS root or just storage?
[13:57] <Snackerr> cscf, i want to learn both
[13:58] <Snackerr> cscf, is there a GUI compatible with ZFS?  e.g.  gnome-disks   gparted?
[13:58] <cscf> Snackerr, well, storage is easy.  (On 16.04) Install zfs-utils, make a zpool.
[13:58] <cscf> Root is harder
[13:58] <MonkeyDust> !zfs | Snackerr stat here
[13:59] <OerHeks> Snackerr, all comandline AFAIK , https://github.com/zfsonlinux/zfs/wiki/Ubuntu
[13:59] <Snackerr> is there a GUI to make an external HDD be ZFS?  i dont see it as an option in gnome-disks or gparted?
[13:59] <cscf> The zfs command line is very simple, there is no need for a GUI.
[14:00] <OerHeks> Snackerr, time to learn some terminal skills :-)
[14:01] <cscf> Snackerr, also, there is generally not much point to single-disk ZFS unless you need a specific feature?
[14:01] <xoke> hello
[14:01] <tpw_rules> so i'm having trouble with java on ubuntu 14.04. whatever matlab uses as default has a bug where scrolling with my trackpad vomits garbage everywhere. ubuntu's openjdk has a bug where it can't parse pkcs configuration or something. is there a java which fixes both those issues? what other javas are available besides openjdk that have a chance of working?
[14:01] <MonkeyDust> Snackerr  zfs is aimed at server user, you really should be somewhat familiar with the command line
[14:01] <MonkeyDust> use*
[14:02] <Snackerr> in gnome-disks, you just click "format partition".  i can walk you through it right now.   is there a simple guide like that for external HDD?  cscf OerHeks
[14:03] <Snackerr> cscf, i'm reading that ZFS doesnt get corrupted files as easily as ext4, so that's why i want it
[14:03] <xoke> I have like 3gb on a ext4 partition i want to add that to the partition i am using now
[14:03] <xoke> what shall i do
[14:04] <ricki> hi
[14:04] <cscf> Snackerr, the main reliability of ZFS comes from using multiple drives.  on a single disk it is not much use, unless you want features like snapshotting.
[14:04] <cscf> Unless maybe if you use copies=2, which will halve your storage space.
[14:05] <Snackerr> cscf, hmmmmm,  so you recommend EXT4 over BTRFS/ZFS.  for a single storage drive? and for Root drive?  what FS do you use?
[14:06] <Snackerr> MonkeyDust, i am "somewhat" familiar with CLI, but i like GUI  :)
[14:06] <cscf> Snackerr, xfs is also nice for a /.  My home PC has a xfs / on an SSD and a ZFS raidz1 across 3 drives.
[14:06] <cscf> but ext4 is also fine.
[14:06] <xoke> lol
[14:06] <xoke> i have a similar issue
[14:06] <xoke> can yall help
[14:07] <cscf> xoke, similar to what?
[14:07] <cscf> Oh I see
[14:07] <Snackerr> cscf, what distro?
[14:07] <xoke> im messing with parttions
[14:07] <cscf> Snackerr, on my home PC?  Fedora.  ZFS is easier on Ubuntu.
[14:07] <xoke> i want to add one parttion to another
[14:07] <xoke> the one im usin gnow
[14:08] <xoke> @ cscf
[14:08] <cscf> xoke, you have a 3GB ext4, or 3 GB of free space in an ext4?
[14:08] <xoke> the later
[14:08] <xoke> @ cscf
[14:09] <xoke> i am almost out of room on the ubuntu partition
[14:09] <cscf> 3GB free of how much?  How much is full/total of your current partition?  Are they next to each other?
[14:09] <xoke> i have a screen shot
[14:09] <cscf> That works
[14:09] <xoke> http://www.zimagez.com/zimage/screenshot-05272016-100608am.php
[14:09] <efrahim> Hi, I ran do-release-upgrade on my computer and during the update several packages just never finishes (e.g. gets stuck on "Setting up avahi-dnsconfd ...") for several packages. How can I resolve this problem?
[14:10] <MonkeyDust> efrahim  in what ubuntu version?
[14:10] <xoke> glass
[14:10] <glass> yes sir
[14:10] <efrahim> MonkeyDust: Updating from 15.10 to 16.04
[14:10] <xoke> are u form
[14:10] <xoke> ace of spades
[14:10] <cscf> xoke, so you want to use the 3.78GB sda4's space in your /, sda5?
[14:10] <xoke> yes cscf
[14:11] <cscf> I don't think that's practically going to happen.  Your sda4 is a primary partition, sda5 is logical
[14:11] <glass> xoke: the game? the band?
[14:11] <xoke> the game
[14:11] <cscf> xoke, what is sda6 for?
[14:11] <glass> nope
[14:11] <xoke> idk cscf
[14:11] <xoke> i did automatic partition i think
[14:11] <c1_> i have an lubuntu virtual machine in virtual box the internet is super slow
[14:11] <xoke> @ cscf
[14:12] <xoke> i cant  view it either
[14:12] <cscf> It might have been intended for swap?
[14:12] <c1_> does anyone have an idea why
[14:12] <xoke> yess
[14:12] <cscf> xoke, if you can find out for sure what it's for, and that you don't need it, you should be able to use that.
[14:12] <efrahim> To elaborate, I can see that dpkg (have to run dpkg --configure -a to fix aborting) gets stuck on running postinst scripts. What can stop them? (MonkeyDust?)
[14:12] <xoke> ok after i find out @ cscf, what do i do lol
[14:12] <xoke> move/resize?
[14:13] <cscf> xoke, and if it is supposed to be swap, you could move sda4's files out and use that as swap
[14:13] <cscf> xoke, once you are sure, you can delete the sda6, and expand sda5 to fill the space.
[14:13] <cscf> xoke, yes
[14:13] <cscf> Just please double-check :P
[14:14] <xoke> lol yes
[14:14] <cscf> xoke, try looking in /etc/fstab and see if sda6's UUID is in there, or if there's a swap partition
[14:18] <xoke> ok cscf
[14:18] <xoke> leme look
[14:18] <cscf> Ah I hate it when people leave after asking questions, I could have answered c1_
[14:19] <cscf> xoke, "sudo blkid" will show you UUID's, btw
[14:19] <xoke> ok so i hve that file lemme cat it
[14:19] <majikman> i don't know if this is just me, but i can't seem to find the option to enable touchpad reverse scroll in xenial. is it not in mouse&touchpad anymore?
[14:20] <xoke> # swap was on /dev/sda6 during installation
[14:20] <xoke> #UUID=10a57930-5451-4d4b-857c-eb6f9bfd5965 none            swap    sw              0       0
[14:20] <xoke> /dev/mapper/cryptswap1 none swap sw 0 0
[14:20] <jarlopez> Any advice on debugging slow SSH connections? Network speed appears fine, all my SSH connections are slow, occurs for all shells (zsh and bash), I've tried the solutions mentioned at http://bit.ly/1X0p9dw
[14:20] <cscf> xoke, use pastebin in future for multiline pastes
[14:20] <xoke> @ cscf
[14:20] <xoke> lol ok
[14:20] <xoke> so sda 6 is the swap
[14:20] <cscf> xoke, right, so sda6 was supposed to be swap but for some reason it isn't.
[14:20] <cscf> So you can safely use it, it's empty
[14:21] <xoke> phew
[14:21] <cscf> If you want swap, you can grab the files from sda4 and format it swap
[14:21] <cscf> And change /etc/fstab to point to it
[14:21] <xoke> dang this is deep lol
[14:22] <cscf> Since that's about all a <4GB partition is good for
[14:22] <xoke> could i delete the swap
[14:22] <xoke> then extend sda4
[14:22] <xoke> excuse me
[14:22] <xoke> sda5
[14:22] <cscf> xoke, currently you don't have any swap mounted.
[14:22] <xoke> ok so i shoudl format swap to ext4
[14:23] <cscf> xoke, delete sda6 and expand sda5 over it
[14:23] <xoke> man
[14:23] <xoke> this is a hugeee (trump) help
[14:23] <cscf> That will give you 3.9GB of extra space
[14:23] <cscf> Is this an SSD?  150GB is pretty small
[14:24] <xoke> ik man
[14:24] <xoke> it was a 100 dollar computer
[14:24] <xoke> an ex cop computer lol
[14:24] <xoke> i will buy new one soon
[14:24] <cscf> $100?  Not bad then lol
[14:24] <xoke> yea trying to be an ethical hacker but never studied partitions
[14:25] <xoke> i learned somthing today
[14:25] <xoke> thanks man
[14:28] <aaran> Hi I am trying to install epoptes but im getting a ton of   Temporary failure resolving 'gb.archive.ubuntu.com' errors
[14:28] <xoke> connection issue
[14:28] <xoke> but obv ur on irc so lol
[14:28] <aaran> im sshd to the machine at the minute
[14:28] <xoke> what command are you using
[14:28] <xoke> to install
[14:29] <aaran> apt-get install epoptes
[14:29] <SchrodingersScat> still a network problem, no?
[14:29] <aaran> I can ping out fine 64 bytes from 8.8.8.8: icmp_seq=2 ttl=52 time=5.65 ms
[14:29] <xoke> ping google
[14:29] <xoke> or sum
[14:30] <SchrodingersScat> aaran: ping the repo
[14:30] <xoke> if the repo dont work
[14:30] <xoke> ping somthing else
[14:31] <aaran> something wrong with the DNS I guess, cannot ping names only ip addresses
[14:31] <cscf> Sounds like DNS
[14:32] <cscf> aaran, is the machine using DHCP or static?
[14:32] <aaran> dhcp
[14:32] <cscf> aaran, if you do "nslookup google.com" what DNS server does it try?
[14:33] <aaran> connection timed out
[14:33] <cscf> aaran, but what IP is it trying?  Your router?
[14:34] <DLmass> Probably firewall blocking the ping port.
[14:34] <aaran> nslookup google.com
[14:34] <aaran> ;; connection timed out; no servers could be reached
[14:37] <cscf> aaran, grep "dhcp-server-identifier"  /var/lib/dhcp/dhclient.leases
[14:37] <brucemwhealton> Can someone help...   I had ubuntu 16 desktop running and I think I removed too much with the package manager.  So, I've been trying to reinstall everything starting with ubuntu server 16, which it will do.  But when I try to do upgrade I get an error.
[14:37] <cscf> brucemwhealton, what error?
[14:38] <aaran> grep: /var/lib/dhcp/dhclient.leases: No such file or directory
[14:38] <brucemwhealton> The error reads E: failed to fetch from the archive 404 not found
[14:38] <k_dog345> Hey guys, I was wondering if someone is here to help with my logitech g930 in ubuntu 14.04 trusty, KDE. I cannot activate 7.1 surround sound. I've followed http://askubuntu.com/questions/491626/surround-sound-on-ubuntu-14-04-with-logitech-g430 with no luck. I notice pulse audio shows only two channels. I notice /proc/asound/card2/usbmixer shows 1 channel for the device,  'speaker-test -Dsurround71 -c 8' errors out with 'Chann
[14:38] <k_dog345> els count (8) not available for playbacks: Invalid argument'. I admittedly am not sure what I'm doing :P help appreciated
[14:38] <cscf> aaran, look for names similar to "dhcp" ie "dhcp3"
[14:38] <cscf> brucemwhealton, this is when doing "apt-get upgrade" ?
[14:38] <brucemwhealton> where my repository is a local repo.
[14:38] <brucemwhealton> yes
[14:39] <brucemwhealton> I do have networking.  I have the server installed.
[14:39] <cscf> brucemwhealton, have you run "apt-get update" recently?
[14:39] <k_dog345> also, just 'speaker-test -c 8' gives no sound, playback device is 'default'
[14:39] <brucemwhealton> I did Google this but didn't find anything that works...  yes, I ran update
[14:39] <Snackerr> cscf,  how does BTRFS compare to ZFS? easier to use?
[14:40] <brucemwhealton> Something from my previous install must be causing the problem.
[14:40] <brucemwhealton> but why would it keep choosing this location - it is a repo at duke.edu
[14:40] <SchrodingersScat> why is your repo a local repo?
[14:41] <cscf> Snackerr, btrfs is ok for small systems.  It has snapshots and copy-on-write like ZFS.  It is fairly stable as long as you stick to the basic features but not as stable as ZFS, ext4, or xfs.
[14:41] <cscf> Snackerr, if you only have a single drive I would use xfs or ext4
[14:42] <brucemwhealton> I tried going into the /etc/apt/sources.list
[14:42] <cscf> brucemwhealton, did you replace the default repos in /etc/sources.list, or did you only add yours?
[14:42] <brucemwhealton> I replaced the repos with us.archives.ubuntu.com
[14:42] <efrahim> Hi, I ran do-release-upgrade on my computer and during the update several packages just never finishes (e.g. gets stuck on "Setting up avahi-dnsconfd ...") for several packages. It seems to stop att running the .postinst scripts (putting on dpkg debugging gives that the .postinst are run and stops)
[14:42] <cscf> If it's trying to get the official repos from duke.edu, and it fails, it should failover
[14:43] <Snackerr> cscf, well, i have more drives, but looking to switch over gradually.  i have a Windows (NTFS) with a 3TB + 4TB, that are really old.  So i want to buy an 8TB to transfer them too.  then eventuallly buy another 8TB, to backup (raid?).  so trying to plan ahead now, but no rush
[14:43] <cscf> I think us.archives.ubuntu.com is a DNS roundrobin
[14:43] <brucemwhealton> so, should I try a different source?
[14:44] <cscf> Snackerr, if you want 8 TB of storage, don't buy a single 8TB that could lose all your data.  Buy 3x4TB and raidz.
[14:44] <brucemwhealton> Even when I do a fresh install it seems to still be showing features and errors from the previous one.
[14:44] <cscf> brucemwhealton, if you are reformatting when you reinstall, that should not happen.
[14:45] <brucemwhealton> I have several disks...  maybe I should unplug the drives that I don't need for installation
[14:45] <brucemwhealton> I have a 120GB ssd drive
[14:46] <cscf> brucemwhealton, that is often wise.  never hurts to be careful.
[14:46] <brucemwhealton> I could just leave that plugged in
[14:46] <OerHeks> "when I do a fresh install it seems to still be showing features and errors from the previous one." ????
[14:46] <ducasse> Snackerr: if you want flexibility to do things like add raid or add disks to a pool, i would use zfs.
[14:46] <brucemwhealton> that's all I can think of because I'm reformatting the 120gb drive but I previously had ubuntu elsewhere.
[14:47] <cscf> brucemwhealton, are you sure it's actually booting off the new install?  You might have installed a fresh ubuntu and kept booting the old one.
[14:48] <brucemwhealton> I'm going to try that now, open the system and unplug some disk drives
[14:48] <brucemwhealton> thanks for listening to me :-)
[14:48] <cscf> brucemwhealton, you could also just look at /etc/fstab to double check
[14:49] <cscf> Actually "df -h" is more readable
[14:49] <Snackerr> ducasse, yes, that is what i'm trying to figure out.  i just need a backup, but not necessarily RAID/ZFS
[14:50] <ducasse> Snackerr: with zfs you can set up a disk now, then add another (or more) later to get a mirror or raidz levels.
[14:50] <Snackerr> ducasse, what FS do you use?
[14:51] <c1> how do i add vpn to my lubuntu
[14:51] <gtkminh90> hello
[14:51] <ducasse> Snackerr: zfs on my file server and /home on my desktop, btrfs for /.
[14:51] <c1> when i go to network manager
[14:51] <c1> no choice for vpn
[14:51] <c1> ive tried sudo apt-get install network-manager-openvpn
[14:51] <c1> but still does not appear
[14:51] <Snackerr> ducasse, why BTRFS, and not ZFS for /  ?
[14:52] <gtkminh90> hello
[14:52] <ducasse> Snackerr: zfs is not supported for /. technical reasons.
[14:52] <cscf> c1, were you the one asking about slow VM networking earlier?
[14:52] <c1> yes
[14:52] <c1> i rebooted my machine
[14:52] <c1> seemed to fix the issue
[14:52] <cscf> c1, you left before I could answer.
[14:52] <c1> apologies
[14:52] <cscf> c1, it will pop up again, probably.  To fix it, go to VM settings, networking, advanced
[14:53] <cscf> And change the network card to virtio
[14:53] <ducasse> Snackerr: zfs also gives you data integrity (cheksums), compression, snapshots, deduplication etc.
[14:53] <cscf> It is much faster
[14:53] <c1> thanks for the info
[14:53] <c1> would you set it to that by defauklt
[14:53] <cscf> Default is to emulate an intel gigabit in software
[14:53] <c1> default
[14:53] <c1> yes
[14:53] <cscf> If you're only running linux VMs, then virtio default is fine
[14:54] <c1> thanks for the advice
[14:54] <cscf> But for example, windows will not see a virtio NIC at all.
[14:54] <c1> will i can do it on a per vm basis
[14:54] <c1> *well
[14:54] <c1> thanks for the info
[14:55] <c1> it was super slow when i was in a vm trying to ssh into another phyical server
[14:55] <c1> i rebooted and seemed to be ok after that
[14:56] <broadcast> t
[14:56] <c1> with regards to setting up the vpn on lubuntu i installed sudo apt-get install network-manager-openvpn
[14:56] <c1> but I cannot see the vpn choice in the network manager
[14:56] <neopsyche> helo world
[14:56] <neopsyche> hmm data trickle
[14:57] <neopsyche> ......
[14:57] <ducasse> c1: try edit connections, add connection. then select vpn.
[14:57] <c1> ducasse, NO VPN OTION
[14:57] <c1> *No vpn option
[14:58] <ducasse> c1: then install the vpn service you want to use.
[14:59] <c1> ducasse, i installed sudo apt-get install network-manager-openvpn
[14:59] <ducasse> c1: you also need openvpn.
[14:59] <c1> ah ok
[14:59] <c1> woops
[14:59] <c1> but its just a client
[14:59] <c1> the vpn is on another server
[15:02] <c1> ducasse, is it not this sudo apt-get install network-manager-openvpn
[15:03] <ducasse> c1: that is just the network manager openvpn plugin, as i said you need openvpn itself.
[15:04] <cscf> ducasse, network-manager-openvpn depends on openvpn
[15:04] <cscf> apt show network-manager-openvpn | grep Depend
[15:06] <OerHeks> c1 restart networking after install perhaps?
[15:06] <ducasse> ah, sorry. in that case it should show up under add connections...
[15:06] <c1> restarted still not there
[15:07] <Lachezar> Hey all. Just launched the update notifier and saw libimobiledevice6, libmount1, libblkid1, bsdutils, util-linux, uuid-runtime combined under 'Language Support' category. What gives?
[15:07] <mankeletor> how can i remove a laguage from system?
[15:09] <Conder> hello, i want make wipe full of HDD to make clean install of windows and then ubuntu, is it ok to delete also efi system partition?
[15:09] <HappySomethingSo> hello
[15:09] <HappySomethingSo> can someone help me with transmission?
[15:10] <cscf> HappySomethingSo, always ask your real question, don't ask to ask
[15:10] <Snackerr> Deluge is better  HappySomethingSo
[15:10] <OerHeks> Conder, i would let them be
[15:10] <cscf> Snackerr, there is nothing wrong with either one :)
[15:10] <wcs__> hey HappySomethingSo!
[15:11] <cscf> HappySomethingSo, what about Transmission do you need help with?
[15:11] <Lachezar> Is there a way to see where packages are being downloaded from before doing the actual apt-get upgrade? I feel like some packages are coming from alternate repositories.
[15:11] <HappySomethingSo> I use ufw as a firewall. I tested transmission but it can't download torrents, so I figured the port it uses was closed. I allowed the port on ufw but then tested the port again and it shows up as closed in transmission
[15:12] <HappySomethingSo> Snackerr: I've tried deluge but didn't like it too much
[15:12] <nacc> Lachezar: `apt-cache policy <pkgname>` will tell you the priority for various sources
[15:12] <HappySomethingSo> wcs__: hello
[15:12] <Lachezar> nacc: I just found out: apt-get upgrade --just-print
[15:13] <nacc> Lachezar: ah yes, good find!
[15:13] <Snackerr> HappySomethingSo, it could be your router settings?  have you tried diff ISPs/ routers?
[15:13] <mankeletor> apt-get update command get Translation-{es,en} wich is ok but zh_CN (simplified chinese) is unwanted.. i mean im not a shaolin monk
[15:13] <wcs__> did you flushed your old firewall routes?
[15:13] <folder|> are there any tools for getting data off of a dynamic disk / microsoft LDM partition?
[15:14] <HappySomethingSo> Snackerr: I have to forward the port in my router?
[15:14] <Snackerr> HappySomethingSo,  i just
[15:14] <Snackerr> "allow Upnp"
[15:14] <HappySomethingSo> Snackerr: in ufw?
[15:15] <Snackerr> HappySomethingSo,  in Router
[15:15] <Snackerr> HappySomethingSo,  that is the simple way AFAIK, there probly is some fancy port-opening way
[15:15] <HappySomethingSo> Snackerr: I have other machines running windows and they have no problem with torrents with the same router
[15:16] <Karvizz> Hi
[15:16] <OerHeks> HappySomethingSo, so does this happen with official torrents too ? http://torrent.ubuntu.com:6969/
[15:16] <Snackerr> HappySomethingSo, hmmm, then it might not be that. but you might as well check the router anyway
[15:16] <Karvizz> Does anyone have problems with16.04 and the"airplane mode " - button on asus laptops?
[15:16] <c1> found the answer
[15:16] <c1> need to install network-manager-openvpn-gnome
[15:17] <c1> http://askubuntu.com/questions/760664/ubuntu-16-04-openvpn
[15:17] <HappySomethingSo> OerHeks: I'll try that now
[15:18] <nacc> Karvizz: what kind of problems?
[15:19] <ducasse> HappySomethingSo: you need to enable upnp in transmission also.
[15:19] <HappySomethingSo> ducasse: how do I do that?
[15:21] <ducasse> HappySomethingSo: no idea, haven't used transmission in years. check the preferences, it should be there somewhere.
[15:21] <HappySomethingSo> OerHeks: ok so it does download official torrents
[15:21] <HappySomethingSo> apparently I 'm not making my own torrets properly
[15:22] <OerHeks> HappySomethingSo, glad you find the culprit.
[15:22] <HappySomethingSo> thanks everyone, I'll try to figure out whre >I went wrong in making my torrents
[15:25] <Karvizz> nacc: okay, kinda seem to found a workaround on Asus K501* . THe airplane mode button doesnt seem to werk, but going in and out of hibernation lets rfkill do rthe work
[15:25] <Karvizz> Does anuyone else have an Asus K501*
[15:25] <Karvizz> can u verify this ?
[15:26] <cyquin> Hi does anyone have much experience with connecting to a vpn that uses juniper host checker through ubuntu?
[15:26] <nacc> Karvizz: ah was going to ask if rfkill worked or not, next :)
[15:26] <nacc> Karvizz: is the airplane mode button triggering an event? (evtest or xev might tell you)
[15:29] <r00trunner> Can someone tell me how to manually change the time in ubtuntu? I've tried to do it via date(1), but does not change the time display on the upper right corner of the gnome ui.
[15:30] <c1> if i have a virtual machine and i use a vpn
[15:30] <OerHeks> r00trunner, that would be the place, use the gui ?
[15:31] <c1> because the internet is connected through the host will this make a difference
[15:31] <c1> so the vpn is on the vm not the host
[15:31] <c1> will this still work
[15:31] <Laris> who has ubuntu touch on his phone?
[15:31] <r00trunner> OerHeks: I tried to switch to manually in the ui. but it does not change. Any help?
[15:31] <OerHeks> r00trunner, perhaps 'sudo date' will stick
[15:31] <r00trunner> OerHeks: Nope. Already tried
[15:31] <OerHeks> Laris, ask in #ubuntu-touch please
[15:32] <Laris> oh oh
[15:32] <Laris> great
[15:32] <Laris> thanks
[15:33] <OerHeks> sudo date 052717332016.00 gives may 27th 2016 17:33:00
[15:34] <OerHeks> or sudo date --set="2015-09-30 10:05:59.990" or sudo hwclock --systohc or completely change timezone sudo dpkg-reconfigure tzdata
[15:34] <brucemwhealton> I was writing earlier about problems accessing the apt sources repos.  It seems to work now, after unplugging all the drives other than one drive, which is different than where I had ubuntu previously.  So, once I plugin the other drives, how can I tell ubuntu to ignore that previous installation of ubuntu?
[15:35] <loa> how i can set minimal brightness? i am talking about brightness hotkeys. When my brightness control is around 70% my display is black. I am sure that it is because i changed led driver. So i want change that minimum.
[15:35] <gde33> is the huge delay between firefox opening the page and my clicking a link on irc normal or is there some issue with my system?
[15:36] <yping> ...
[15:36] <Karvizz> nacc: now looking for it, kinda need to write my own script
[15:37] <Powerless> hi. i am trying to install open365 on my ubunt and it needs libqt4-core. how do i get it to work?
[15:37] <loa> gde33, i saw such behaviour in ubuntu too, have not find solution.
[15:37] <brucemwhealton> actually now it won't run the desktop mode.  Just throws up a bunch of errors , one saying consult the X.org Foundation
[15:38] <lerner> what radio trays do you use?
[15:38] <gde33> loa: do you perhaps know what the name is for that type of functionality?
[15:39] <parlos> Hello, I'm trying to install a "lamp" setup, i.e. apt-get install lamp-server; but the package is not found (apt-cache search lamp-server) returns nothing. What can see my sources.list contains universe etc.. its a 14.04 desktop version... Done this a couple of times with out any problems... so what have I missed..? any hints?
[15:39] <gde33> loa: an api of some kind?
[15:40] <nacc> parlos: i think you want ^lamp-server or lamp-server^, i can't remember :)
[15:40] <Karvizz> nacc: okay, seems i get no xev event from the HW button.....
[15:40] <squinty> !lamp
[15:41] <nacc> Karvizz: ah, so it might need to be mapped (does your `dmesg` indicate an  unknow key was pressed)?
[15:41] <parlos> nacc: ok, the caret should be there? but would not search find it?
[15:41] <lerner> m locate radiotray < will find the radiotray directory, right?
[15:41] <parlos> squinty: I'm lazy.
[15:42] <loa> gde33, something like xdg-open and gnome-open and others.
[15:42] <loa> gde33, but i think it browser related.
[15:42] <loa> gde33, you use chromium, are not you?
[15:42] <nacc> parlos: iirc, the ^ does something special, perhaps because lamp-server isn't a package but a task
[15:42] <gde33> loa: firefox
[15:43] <parlos> nacc: nope, "E: Unable to locate package ^lamp-server" :)
[15:44]  * parlos feeling stupid.. lamp-server^ (it was not a typo! ...)
[15:44] <OerHeks> parlos, read the lamp factoid from ubottu >> lamp-server^
[15:44] <parlos> OerHeks .. facepalm.
[15:46] <parlos> nacc OerHeks thanks.. "mind" should be replaced by "Notice" for me to understand..
[15:52] <robh71> I have Ubuntu Gnome installed and I want to keep Gnome but have the system not fire it up at boot, back in the day I would just set the default runlevel to 3, but it appears that has changed. Any advice?
[15:57] <Karvizz> nacc: yep it does
[15:58] <Karvizz> nacc: just need to tweak asuswmi
[15:59] <nacc> Karvizz: ah ok!
[16:10] <majikman> how do i set touchpad scroll direction in xenial?
[16:11] <SchrodingersScat> majikman: do you have a mouse and touchpad settings?  Mine has a 'Reverse Scroll Direction'
[16:11] <majikman> SchrodingersScat, I do have Mouse & Touchpad in settings, but no option besides Primary button, Double-click, and Pointer speed
[16:12] <lotuspsychje> majikman: unity-tweak-tool has also mouse options
[16:13] <lotuspsychje> majikman: did you upgrade to xenial or clean install?
[16:13] <majikman> clean install
[16:13] <lotuspsychje> majikman: the option SchrodingersScat says should be there...
[16:14] <majikman> i wonder if it's not detecting my touchpad as a touchpad?
[16:14] <Blaster> Hmm I keep getting ethernet cable disconnected popup in an Ubuntu VM, how can I remedy this?
[16:14] <Blaster> The network works fine.
[16:14] <lotuspsychje> majikman: that could be yes, what brand is your laptop?
[16:14] <majikman> Dell Precision 7510
[16:14] <lotuspsychje> majikman: system up to date to latest also?
[16:14] <majikman> yup, ran apt upgrade right after install
[16:15] <lotuspsychje> majikman: sudo full-upgrade also?
[16:15] <OerHeks> Blaster, likely an hardware issue
[16:15] <majikman> not that yet. let me try that next
[16:15] <OerHeks> you say it is fine, vm says not
[16:15] <majikman> lotuspsychje, did you mean sudo apt full-upgrade?
[16:15] <lotuspsychje> majikman: sorry yes
[16:16] <ducasse> Blaster: what kind of virtualization?
[16:16] <majikman> 0 packges to upgrade
[16:16] <Blaster> virtualbox
[16:16] <lotuspsychje> majikman: ok, try a 4.6 kernel perhaps from mainline, and a test from the guest account also
[16:17] <lotuspsychje> !mainline | majikman
[16:17] <ducasse> Blaster: not familiar with that, sorry. i only use kvm (or lxc containers).
[16:18] <majikman> lotuspsychje, ok, i'll try that next. if that doesn't work, what should i do next?
[16:18] <lotuspsychje> majikman: file a new !bug with your story and steps tested
[16:19] <majikman> ok, thanks
[16:20] <lotuspsychje> majikman: you might wanna take a look at syslog aswell what happens
[16:20] <majikman> oh yeah, good point. i'll check that out
[16:21] <majikman> lotuspsychje, do you know a string to grep for?
[16:22] <lotuspsychje> majikman: xinput or acpi, or realtime check tail -f /var/log/syslog and fool around with mouse settings a bit
[16:23] <majikman> ok, thanks
[16:26] <vimi> Hi, I just installed ubuntu 16.04 and wifi is not working, iwconfig - doesn't show any device as well, any help would be greatly appreciated :)
[16:26] <jarlopez> Hi all. I'm experiencing slow SSH connections, and have narrowed it down to most likely being caused by the pseudo terminal allocation that occurs. If I perform "ssh -T ...", there is no delay between me typing and it appearing on the screen. Any tips or insights?
[16:27] <OerHeks> vimi, did you check additional driver menu?
[16:27] <OerHeks> type 'driver' in dash and the tool should show up
[16:27] <vimi> OerHeks: yeah it shows no additional drivers available
[16:28] <OerHeks> vimi, oke, then what does 'lspci' or 'lsusb' say about your wifi hardware?
[16:28] <vimi> OerHeks: oh wait, it does shw additional drivers for broadcom now
[16:28] <OerHeks> :-)
[16:28] <vimi> OerHeks: I'll try that :)
[16:34] <kltrg> I’ve got no sound on what used to be a Ubuntu Server machine. How can I get it running?
[16:36] <OerHeks> kltrg, start 'alsamixer' and fiddle with the sliders/or F6 sounddevices
[16:37] <themagmaforce> hi there, i'm trying to install spotify on ubuntu, but some say "spotify-client" and others "spotify-client-qt" what's the diference?
[16:37] <kltrg> OerHeks, alsamixer won’t start. It says, it can’t find the mixer device.
[16:38] <OerHeks> kltrg, reinstall alsa perhaps? not sure what you installed on that used-to-be-server
[16:38] <OerHeks> http://www.unixmen.com/2012003-howto-resolve-nosound-problem-on-ubuntu/
[16:39] <streetwitch> My microphone refuses to work in ubuntu studio.  I've been trying all the fixes on the web but none of them have worked.  Could anyone give me some help on this issue?
[16:40] <kltrg> OerHeks, Oh! I have to run alsamixer as sudo to get it to run. What does this mean?
[16:40] <OerHeks> kltrg, security, not all users should have access.
[16:41] <kltrg> OerHeks, Ok, so that’s not a problem. Do you want me to apt-get remove alsa and reinstall it?
[16:42] <OerHeks> kltrg, add that user to the audio group,  sudo addgroup <username> audio
[16:42] <OerHeks> then alsamixer should work without sudo
[16:42] <kltrg> OerHeks, It doesn’t.
[16:43] <OerHeks> hmm or is it sudo adduser user group ..
[16:43] <kltrg> OerHeks, According to my terminal, I’ve been added to the audio group
[16:45] <OerHeks> restart the alsa system, sudo alsa reload
[16:46] <kltrg> OerHeks, Still no sudo-free alsamixer and still no sound.
[16:47] <BluesKaj> might need a relogin
[16:47] <OerHeks> thinking about that too, BluesKaj .. but sound on ubuntu server, should not be that hard..
[16:48] <kltrg> BluesKaj, I’ll try to re-login. Stay tuned.
[16:48] <BluesKaj> OerHeks, yeah agreed, but why did he need sudo, that's the strange part
[16:50] <kltrg> BluesKaj, OerHeks, alsamixer now works without sudo.
[16:50] <catbadger> woot
[16:51] <BluesKaj> kltrg, good
[16:51] <BluesKaj> ok , back to the lawnmower, bbl
[16:51] <kltrg> And now, strangely Rhythmbox crashes every time I open an audio file
[16:52] <OerHeks> kltrg, oh you have a gui ..? i understood server
[16:52] <kltrg> pavucontrol says: "Estahbilishing connection to PulseAudio. Please wait." But nothing happens.
[16:53] <OerHeks> did you install restricted extras ( codecs webplugins fonts and such)
[16:53] <kltrg> OerHeks, It was a server but now has a GUI
[16:54] <kltrg> OerHeks, Rhythmbox played the MP3 before, I saw the audio going up and down in pavucontrol. So it seems I have the codec.
[16:55] <kltrg> In the notification area, the audio icon is grey and "muted" is clicked. I can’t unclick it.
[17:01] <kltrg> OerHeks, BluesKaj, No ideas any more?
[17:02] <StNicolas> How do I recover a partition? I have a couple distros of Ubuntu.  One of them on my desktop refuses to startx.  I tried lsof and got a lot of stuff I can't understand.  I tried fsck, to no avail
[17:03] <ducasse> kltrg: your server working well? :)
[17:03] <StNicolas> The partition is /sda7
[17:04] <ducasse> StNicolas: recover a partition from what? did you delete it?
[17:04] <kltrg> ducasse, Not the audio. And strangely, I can’t shut it down from the GUI. I have to go to the terminal for that. But audio is more important right now. If I can’t get it to work, the whole project is lost.
[17:05] <StNicolas> No, but when I try to boot from /sda7, the boot stops at a command prompt.  I type "startx" and it crashes.  While on the partition, I have tried "fsck", "sudo fsck" to no avail
[17:06] <ducasse> kltrg: the reason you can't shut down is because systemd sees that you're logged in over the network, it's to prevent one network user from shutting down a server for everybody else. what's wrong with audio?
[17:07] <testubuntu> hey, is it a common issue getting stuck at the installer? It says preparing isntallation of ubuntu and i just checked "download updates while installing" and "install software from thirdparty" - pressing next results in nothing
[17:07] <kltrg> ducasse, There is no audio coming out, if I plug headphones into the server. Ultimatevly, I want to stream audio to the client (as you can imagine) but getting local audio to work is a first step (it seems to me).
[17:07] <ducasse> StNicolas: you are probably at a grub prompt, that is not a normal shell. try boot-repair (google it).
[17:07] <StNicolas> ducasse: On that partition with ubuntu studio, like I said, I boot that partition and distro.  It leaves me at the command prompt.  I am trying to recover the data so I can limit myself to a distro rather than 2, 3 or 4
[17:08] <kltrg> ducasse, PulseAudio seems not to be running correctly. pavucontrol waits for it to start and doesn’t show me any controls.
[17:08] <ducasse> kltrg: have you tried something like mpd?
[17:08] <testubuntu> kltrg: just boot into a usb live and save your files
[17:08] <mordoc_ab> kltrg: I have a similar setup, would it be alright if I posted the URL with the docs that I followed here?
[17:08] <kltrg> ducasse, I want to stream all sound, not just a music library. As I understand mpd, it’s a media streaming server, isn’t it?
[17:08] <StNicolas> StNicolas: Ok, will try
[17:09] <[Roman]> Hello
[17:09] <kltrg> mordoc_ab, Perfect, go on.
[17:09] <StNicolas> testubuntu: Might try that
[17:09] <StNicolas> Thx everyone !!
[17:09] <testubuntu> StNicolas: sorry tagged the wrong name before lol
[17:09] <testubuntu> hey, is it a common issue getting stuck at the installer? It says preparing isntallation of ubuntu and i just checked "download updates while installing" and "install software from thirdparty" - pressing next results in nothing
[17:09] <ducasse> kltrg: yes, it is. i don't know pulseaudio very well, but i know there is a network plugin to stream all audio. i'm guessing that's what you want?
[17:10] <[Roman]> How can I set an app so it will start right when i boot my computer?
[17:10] <kltrg> ducasse, That’s what I want.
[17:11] <mordoc_ab> kltrg: Here's the basics of the alsa/mpd stuff. It might be the lead to streaming other stuff: http://www.htpcguides.com/create-an-mpd-music-server-on-debian
[17:11] <mordoc_ab> kltrg: This probably isn't what you are after sounds like pulseaudio streaming is what you are after.
[17:12] <kltrg> mordoc_ab, Streaming everything I would hear if sitting in front of the server, that is what I want, yes.
[17:12] <[Roman]> could someone help me?
[17:13] <ducasse> kltrg: from what i can tell, pulse is the only way to do that. is the pulseaudio service running?
[17:13] <kltrg> I already followed a tutorial to make PulseAudio stream through the network but since it didn’t work, I thought, I had to get the basics running locally first-
[17:14] <kltrg> ducasse, I can’t find it in top. But if I "sudo service pulseaudio start", I get a message telling me the service is already running.
[17:15] <[Roman]> hello?
[17:16] <kltrg> Could all this be due to me logging of and back in not rebooting? When I logged off using the graphical thing, my VNC session got stuck and I had to start a new one (maybe it’s like shutting down the computer).
[17:16] <ducasse> kltrg: this might be the same problem as shutdown. if systemd sees you're not logged in to a "local seat", there are certain things it will not allow. my guess is that documentation on pulse network streaming would cover this.
[17:16] <kltrg> I’ll reboot and be right back.
[17:19] <kltrg> I now have sound locally.
[17:20] <mordoc_ab> kltrg: Progress!
[17:21] <kltrg> Now I need to get the network streaming right. Any pulseaudio network nerds here?
[17:23] <ducasse> kltrg: look at /etc/pulse/client.conf - there's a flag; default-server
[17:26] <kltrg> ducasse, I’ll look into the depths of pulseaudio some other day or later. I have to leave now. Thanks, everyone!
[17:26] <ducasse> kltrg: np.
[17:27] <boxmein> anyone here up for a challenge? :P ubuntu 15.04 laptop dropped to initramfs weirdly, here's the end of dmesg in a picture https://dl.dropboxusercontent.com/u/22100200/etc/DSC_0108.jpg
[17:28] <BluesKaj> pulse isn't my cuppa tea, my pc and laptop have intel-hda audio which plays nice directly with alsa without the need for PA
[17:28] <xangua> !15.04 | boxmein
[17:29] <boxmein> sorry 15.10
[17:29] <ducasse> BluesKaj: alsa is nice, but he needs to stream all audio to another machine, only pulse can do that...
[17:30] <BluesKaj> ducasse, vlc can as well
[17:32] <ducasse> BluesKaj: not _all_ audio, only files, afaik. or am i wrong?
[17:33] <BluesKaj> ducasse, vlc can stream from a file, disk, network or capture device
[17:34] <ducasse> BluesKaj: interesting. i'll need to look at that, thanks.
[17:37] <BluesKaj> ducasse, pulseaudio has an advantage when streaming and playing from several sources simultaneously, something alsa isn't programed to do as a sound server
[17:38] <ducasse> BluesKaj: i know. i also assume pulse would be easier to set up, but that's just a guess.
[17:39] <PreseedHell> So I'm building my first 2 disk system with a preseed - pxe boot and the second disk format .. is that just not working with 14.04?
[17:40] <le_pig> ^^ nick checks out
[17:40] <BluesKaj> ducasse, yes some soundcard drivers need pulse since their drivers are written rely on it , like my m-audio audiophile 192
[17:41] <PreseedHell> Dose anyone have an actual working preseed that has two lvm disks?
[17:42] <ActionParsnip> PreseedHell: have you tried setting one up with one disk.
[17:42] <ActionParsnip> PreseedHell: start simple then build up
[17:43] <rodrigo_> hello
[17:43] <ActionParsnip> Hi BluesKaj :)
[17:43] <pradeep> hi
[17:43] <PreseedHell> I've done many with a single disk, just trying to add a second now and it seems to be ignored
[17:44] <le_pig> PreseedHell: I've had the same experience as you.  Hoping someone smarter than us knows the trick :)
[17:44] <pidybi> hi all
[17:44] <ActionParsnip> PreseedHell: ah, well at least you have done preseeds and understand that bit etc. It's not something I've done. Sorry
[17:44] <PreseedHell> i was reading that using late command is used, but that's just insane. the preseed should work
[17:45] <ActionParsnip> PreseedHell: try it. If it works then go with it
[17:46] <BluesKaj> Hey ActionParsnip, LTNS ...gotta run, lawnmower awaits ..bb in a few
[17:46] <ActionParsnip> Haha
[17:49] <PreseedHell> for some reason my company chose ubuntu over rhel .. beats me
[17:49] <on_my_raspberry> testing LTE speeds in shell session
[17:49] <PreseedHell> kickstart worked great for that, so maybe at some point i could try KS again
[17:51] <do0pa> hey all
[17:52] <do0pa> have issue with nic card, netexreme on a server once in a while ping to a host is lost, while from server to a host is fine
[17:53] <HelpeRx> anyone know if robert love kernel devoment is good or linux programming interface to learn about kernel devel
[17:53] <ActionParsnip> do0pa: are they on the same network segment / subnet?
[17:53] <do0pa> ActionParsnip, yes all same
[17:54] <do0pa> ActionParsnip, ssh is freezing for second when ping to a server is lost :(
[17:54] <ActionParsnip> do0pa: have you rebooted the interconnection device?
[17:54] <do0pa> tryed from multiple host also
[17:54] <ducasse> HelpeRx: ask in ##linux
[17:54] <do0pa> ActionParsnip, before I do that wanted to make sure its not linux box here :)
[17:55] <HelpeRx> cant wont let me send lol
[17:55] <do0pa> also there many ports are in use all fine, ping from other host to gateway and outside all works
[17:55] <Pici> !register|  HelpeRx
[17:55] <do0pa> ActionParsnip, by port mean switch ports
[17:56] <HelpeRx> coool
[17:56] <HelpeRx> thanks
[17:56] <ActionParsnip> do0pa: I'd try it. You could check the output of: dmesg | tail     when it happens
[17:57] <do0pa> ActionParsnip, so its ACPI or something restarts nic ?
[17:57] <ActionParsnip> do0pa: could try the boot option: noacpi
[17:58] <Ace> hi
[17:58] <do0pa> dmesg nothing happens there
[17:58] <Ace> help
[17:58] <do0pa> need a min to confirm
[17:58] <crs___> HelpRx: i got the book but did only read few pages.i think the book is quite giod but you need a lot of motivation to read all of it
[17:58] <Ace> i need any hacking channel name
[17:59] <OerHeks> lol @ Ace .. wrong network
[17:59] <Ace> hahaha
[17:59] <Ace> ik
[17:59] <Ace> i cant find lool all bullshit
[17:59] <Ace> i need reeal one
[18:00] <dax> Ace: Too bad, we don't have any. Ask somewhere else.
[18:00] <Guest3605> HI
[18:00] <cscf> Ace, if you're calling it "hacking" you aren't ready for a real one.
[18:00] <cscf> Guest3605, hi!
[18:00] <twowheels> Question about installing to SD card on MacBook Pro (13" non retina) : I booted from a CD and everything seems to be working well except for WiFi (though there are posts about how to fix that, and I have an external dongle that is working great -- worst case scenario)...  I'd like to install to SD, but before I go buy one... is it possible to install to SD without touching the main internal SDD?  Will GRUB be installe
[18:00] <twowheels> d to the SD?  Everything I can find talks about using reFINDit, which I'd rather not do... I'm OK with having to hold Opt and select the SD card when I want to boot Linux.
[18:00] <twowheels> (SDD --> SSD)
[18:01] <OerHeks> twowheels, yes, you are asked where to install grub, standard would be sda
[18:01] <cscf> twowheels, the SD card should show up as a block device, just like HDD or USB.
[18:01] <Guest3605> i know this will sound weird but... do u guys know or some website where i can have train?
[18:01] <twowheels> Great... thanks...  I didn't remember ever having been asked where to install it before, so I thought I'd ask first.
[18:02] <Ace> hacking dosing cracking operating
[18:02] <cscf> Guest3605, you mean like linux tutorials?
[18:02] <Guest3605> nope
[18:02] <Guest3605> i know how to use linux
[18:02] <alocompsci_> Hi guys, Have a question.. I got back my laptop from Lenovo, and I cannot access my Ubuntu partition anymore. (I don't see the grub). I know the windows partition hasn't been extended (because it has the same size I gave it). How can I check if my Ubuntu os (and the files i had) are still there, or if I need to reinstall Ubuntu, without being able to access the partition?
[18:02] <OerHeks> !ot | Ace not here please ,
[18:02] <Guest3605> and i know how to do stuffs
[18:02] <cscf> alocompsci_, boot off a livecd
[18:02] <twowheels> I have installed to SD on an Atom netbook before, and it worked great, but IIRC it put grub on the internal drive -- I didn't really care back then.
[18:02] <Ace> hahah just kidding sorry
[18:02] <Ace> i am out
[18:02] <Guest3605> i need a playground
[18:03] <tgm4883> Guest3605: virtual machine
[18:03] <cscf> twowheels, when you install, just choose manual partitioning, and be sure to put Grub or whatever on the SD card.
[18:03] <niel__> hey there!!
[18:03] <twowheels> @cscf thanks for the tip
[18:03] <cscf> hi niel__
[18:03] <Powerless> how do i install libqt4-core on ubuntu 16.04 LTS?
[18:03] <Guest3605> yeah tgm4883 ...didnt think of that
[18:03] <Guest3605> thx
[18:03] <Guest3605> :D
[18:03] <twowheels> I guess I'll order the flush SD adapter.
[18:04] <alocompsci_> thanks cscf.
[18:04] <L0g4nAd4ms> Anybody knows how to get an AMD 390X (= grenada) card working on current linux kernel ?
[18:04] <Guest3605> btw is this the official ubuntu channel or is it for Back Box?
[18:04] <niel__> just cool and hope i'm in right place !!! in blender chat?
[18:04] <cscf> Guest3605, this is #ubuntu, yes
[18:04] <OerHeks> Powerless, it is part of qt4-x11 https://launchpad.net/ubuntu/+source/qt4-x11/
[18:05] <Guest3605> ok thank you cscf
[18:05] <cscf> niel__, this is #ubuntu support channel
[18:05] <OerHeks> L0g4nAd4ms, what ubuntu kernel? if it is from 16.04, no go. use the open drivers
[18:05] <cscf> niel__, do "/join #blender"
[18:05] <Powerless> OerHeks, how do i install that package?
[18:06] <niel__> ohh fine! then anyone can show me how i can tag someone in this group chat!
[18:06] <L0g4nAd4ms> OerHeks: im talking about the open source drivers. the propriertary is currently no supported on newer x-server versions
[18:06] <OerHeks> Powerless, sudo apt-get install <package> or install synaptic, detailed softwarecenter
[18:06] <L0g4nAd4ms> With the open source drivers the 390X doesnt work.
[18:06] <cscf> niel__, if you say someone's name, like this, they get "highlighted"
[18:06] <OerHeks> L0g4nAd4ms, you would have te open driver as standard
[18:07] <OerHeks> L0g4nAd4ms, see https://wiki.ubuntu.com/XenialXerus/ReleaseNotes#Graphics_and_Display
[18:07] <Powerless> OerHeks, apt-get install qt4-x11 works?
[18:07] <L0g4nAd4ms> OerHeks: the open source driver "radeon" is the issue. the system is not stable.
[18:07] <niel__> cscf ok let me try cscf
[18:07] <OerHeks> Powerless, yes
[18:07] <niel__> not working
[18:08] <OerHeks> L0g4nAd4ms, wait for xorg 1.8 / mesa 11.3, but i have no date when it arrives
[18:08] <L0g4nAd4ms> the system crashes, etc. you cant work currently with "radeon" on a grenada card.
[18:08] <niel__> cscf__, like this?
[18:08] <Powerless> OerHeks, unable to find the package :P
[18:08] <niel__> nooo!!!!!
[18:09] <samolet> здравствуйте
[18:09] <niel__> any way it,s fine!! so anyone who knows how i can get blender 3D in ubuntu?
[18:10] <ramsub07> hello, how do i check the difference in the files present between 2 directories ?
[18:10] <cosmicfires> niel__, ubuntustudio has blender so I assume you can install it on ubuntu
[18:10] <cscf> niel__, you go to Software Center and search "Blender"
[18:10] <cscf> First resulty
[18:10] <cosmicfires> ramsub07, diff -r dir1/ dir2/
[18:10] <niel__> ok! thanks
[18:11] <cosmicfires> diff --brief -r to show only files with diffs not the diffs
[18:12] <OerHeks> Powerless, what if you just try libqt4-core ?
[18:13] <Powerless> OerHeks, did it. i saw that on 16.04 the name is libqtcore4 but it says i already have it so i have no idea why it wont install
[18:13] <cscf> niel__, by the way, your first attempt did highlight me properly.
[18:14] <niel__> cscf awww!! thanks
[18:14] <cscf> niel__, no problem.  Welcome to IRC :)
[18:14] <niel__> cscf how are doing>
[18:15] <niel__> any cool stuff by ubuntu?
[18:15] <cscf> niel__, pretty good.  slow day at work.
[18:16] <niel__> cscf ohh!! me i dont have any job today i'm still learning liinux based courses
[18:16] <Powerless> OerHeks, apparently it is a bug. I'll wait for them to fix it :D thanks
[18:17] <lerner> m locate radiotray < will find the radiotray directory, right?i have a mp4 file, there is a tv icon on the top right part of it. What can I use to delete it?
[18:17] <lerner> disregard
[18:17] <niel__> cscf anyway did virtualbox work correctly on ubuntu?
[18:17] <lerner> I have a mp4 file, there is a tv icon on the top right part of it. What can I use to delete it?
[18:18] <cscf> niel__, it works great, yes.
[18:18] <dury> hi there all :-)
[18:18] <cscf> lerner, the file or the icon?
[18:18] <niel__> cscf good!! just i wanna install kali linux in that stuff
[18:18] <lerner> the icon
[18:18] <dury> which the most stable lts release 14.04.4 or what?
[18:19] <cscf> niel__, after making the VM, go into its settings > networking > advanced , and change the NIC type to "virtio" instead of Intel.  makes networking faster.
[18:19] <OerHeks> lerner, no software for that, AFAIK
[18:19] <cscf> dury, 16.04 LTS is fully released.
[18:20] <lerner> there has to be something that allows me to plant a blank square over the icon...
[18:20] <cscf> lerner, what is wrong with a TV icon?
[18:20] <niel__> cscf ohh!
[18:21] <niel__> cscf where do u stay?
[18:21] <dury> cscf, did try that?
[18:21] <cscf> dury, what?
[18:22] <cscf> niel__, what do you mean?
[18:22] <dury> cscf, if you tried that?
[18:22] <niel__> cscf your country
[18:22] <cscf> niel__, Canada
[18:22] <niel__> dury i have tried it few weeks
[18:22] <cscf> dury, I have tried 16.04, and it has worked fine.
[18:23] <niel__> ohh!! but for me it wasn't fully released
[18:23] <dury> cscf, can it be download minimal *.iso
[18:24] <niel__> cscf why i can't click on settings in vm?
[18:24] <cscf> dury, what do you want that the desktop or server versions don't do?  The minimal is for you to custom build your own version.
[18:24] <cscf> niel__, is it grayed out?  VM has to shutdown before you can change most settings.
[18:25] <dury> cscf, desktop... though
[18:25] <niel__> cscf perhaps because i haven't installed any OS in it?
[18:26] <cscf> niel__, VM settings shouldn't care.  What happens when you right-click on the VM in the menu and click Settings?
[18:28] <dury> http://archive.ubuntu.com/ubuntu/dists/xenial/main/installer-i386/current/images/netboot/  good though :-)
[18:28] <niel__> dury do u have 32bit OS/
[18:29] <dury> the machine requires that, anyway!!! do you fancy with google niel_?
[18:31] <dury> niel__
[18:31] <niel__> dury yes i do!
[18:31] <niel__> you too?
[18:32] <dury> not really it's getting to powerful company that doesn't respect the privacy
[18:33] <dury> niel__, see?
[18:33] <dury> niel__, see what I mean?
[18:35] <niel__> dury yes it is
[18:35] <Linnak> Hi, Why gnome-look.org doesn't show up good on Ubuntu? On Windows it's fine but on Ubuntu there are no texts just images
[18:35] <niel__> dury anyway what do u do?
[18:35] <niel__> dury any great job?
[18:36] <Yuri4_> Hi guys, I have an Ubuntu instance running web server on bare metal. I need to migrate all the data so the web app is still functining to another hoster, to VM. What's the best way to do that?
[18:36] <dury> niel__, preparing an old laptop for my cousin
[18:36] <cscf> Linnak, looks fine to me
[18:37] <dury> niel__, not job.... chill out is better I guess though
[18:37] <niel__> durl that's good !
[18:37] <OerHeks> dury, niel__ please move the chitchat to #ubuntu-offtopic, thanks
[18:37] <Linnak> http://i.imgur.com/nP8Kfzq.png
[18:38] <niel__> hhhhh! ok
[18:38] <dury> OerHeks, sorry... I promise no more.... don't hesitate
[18:38] <OerHeks> Yuri4_,  backup all data/settings and start a fresh service, restore data and go?
[18:38] <efm> how do I remove Amazon, permanently, from a fresh 16.04 install?
[18:39] <yeats> Linnak: loads fine for me - maybe a FF ad-blocker or other add-on interfering?
[18:39] <OerHeks> Yuri4_, tis page may be an example where files are located https://www.digitalocean.com/community/tutorials/how-to-back-up-a-lamp-server-with-bacula-on-ubuntu-14-04
[18:40] <niel__> emf just uninstall it
[18:40] <BluesKaj> shuttleworth still allowing bloatware on unity, not surprising
[18:40] <Yuri4_> OerHeks, any guides? It's a web server. I will need to set up all the packages dependencies, permissions.
[18:40] <efm> niel__: if you were talking to me, it's not installed as a package
[18:41] <niel__> emf ohh! so?
[18:41] <OerHeks> Yuri4_, just posted an url
[18:41] <Yuri4_> OerHeks, it's for back up. Can I just restore back up on another server?
[18:41] <cscf> efm, by "permanently" do you mean more thoroughly than turning online search off?
[18:42] <OerHeks> Yuri4_, yes, if you have setup lamp on the target machine first.
[18:42] <Linnak> yeats, All addons are disabled http://i.imgur.com/3BlKeof.png
[18:42] <Yuri4_> OerHeks, thanks
[18:43] <efm> cscf: online search is not turned on. I have removed the application icon from the unity launcher, but I cannot figure out how to remove it from the list of suggested applications, because it's not an application (right clicking does nothing except offer to run it0
[18:44] <xangua> What does it run?
[18:45] <efm> xangua: it's a web app
[18:46] <yeats> Linnak: have you tried in another browser?  (I'll suggest chromium-browser available in the Ubuntu repos if you don't have it installed)
[18:51] <teward> is there any documentation anywhere how I can wire up an Ubuntu box with two ethernet adapters to intercept and monitor traffic going from one box to another?
[18:52] <AndChat359961> Do i know u S?
[18:52] <yeats> teward: software-wise, look into wireshark (or its command-line equivalent tshark)
[18:53] <teward> yeats: right, but I mean the networking side
[18:53] <teward> not the software side ;)
[18:53] <teward> yeats: problem is it's not on the same switch, so I can't set up a LAGG / mirror port
[19:04] <boxmein> unetbootin on osx can't find my fat32-formatted usb key
[19:10] <cscf> boxmein, try umounting it, (but not ejecting it)
[19:11] <sauron_> are you still here EriC^^?
[19:11] <EriC^^> hey sauron_
[19:11] <EriC^^> sup
[19:12] <sauron_> i was told in \kubuntu you may be able to help with a grub problem
[19:12] <boxmein> cscf, diskutil unmount?
[19:12] <boxmein> gotcha
[19:13] <ylarson> hello
[19:13] <EriC^^> sauron_: what's the problem?
[19:13] <kriston> Has anyone been able to upgrade to 12.04 LTS to 14.04 LTS using an offline method where no internet access is available?  I'm aware Ubuntu doesn't want to support this anymore.
[19:13] <SonikkuAmerica> Tried the ISO?
[19:14] <SonikkuAmerica> kriston ^
[19:14] <sauron_> i messed up grub, dual booting with win10, worked fine until i installed another distro, got the minimal-bash grub, tried installing kubuntu over the other distro, same minimal-bash grub, read the package boot-repair might help, heres its output
[19:14] <kriston> SonikkuAmerica: Yes but the ISO upgrade is not supported for Ubuntu Server.  I forgot to mention this is for Ubuntu Server not desktop.
[19:14] <sauron_> http://paste2.org/9O1W2U3c
[19:14] <ylarson> Can I migrate a workstation from NIS to Ldap/sssd (with homedir automount nfsv3) while a graphical user session is opened ?
[19:14] <cscf> kriston, I would seriously recommend doing a fresh install when jumping  that many versions, if possible
[19:14] <sauron_> it said something about efi
[19:15] <ylarson> UID, GID are the same, passwords differs
[19:15] <kriston> cscf: I completely agree.  I'm having a challenge convincing my stakeholders of that unfortunately.
[19:15] <SonikkuAmerica> kriston - an unofficial way would be to edit all the source lists to the correct version and use apt-offline, but it's messy
[19:15] <ylarson> Can I migrate a workstation from NIS to Ldap/sssd (with homedir automount nfsv3) while a graphical user session is opened ? UID, GID, username are the same, only passwords differ
[19:15] <kriston> I've tried a number of different ways of using a locally-installed mirror and copying the changelogs.ubuntu.com to use my local copy but do-release-upgrade still tries to contact archive.ubuntu.com and it's drivng me insane.
[19:16] <EriC^^> sauron_: is uefi turned on?
[19:16] <cscf> SonikkuAmerica, couldn't you set the sources.list to use a 14.04 CD?  That way it would work on CD and upgrade.
[19:16] <SonikkuAmerica> apt-cdrom?
[19:17] <sauron_> i dont think so, unless it turned back on, the only thing ive been doing is changing the boot order, could that be causing it?
[19:17] <kriston> I'm hoping to contact someone who knows someone who has done the offline upgrade using do-release-upgrade on Ubuntu Server.  I am so close but Ubuntu has admitted that they have proactively taken steps to prevent offline upgrading in this way.
[19:17] <cscf> SonikkuAmerica, something like that, but using a 14.04 CD to do the upgrade
[19:17] <SonikkuAmerica> !cd
[19:17] <EriC^^> sauron_: you need it on
[19:17] <SonikkuAmerica> Well, DVD/USB
[19:17] <sauron_> its in the bios isnt it?
[19:17] <cscf> sauron_, yes, it will be in BIOS settings
[19:18] <sauron_> gonna check it now
[19:22] <Linnak> What do you use for video editing?
[19:23] <lyze> kdenlive for example Linnak
[19:23] <Linnak> Yeah I think that would be the best if it didn't crash all the time
[19:23] <feneco> hi, I can't make a dvd work on ubuntu gnome 16.04, installed restricted extras but still doesn't play
[19:24] <feneco> tried this guide: https://help.ubuntu.com/16.04/ubuntu-help/video-dvd-restricted.html
[19:24] <OerHeks> feneco, did you install "sudo apt-get install libdvd-pkg" >> Follow libdvd-pkg's instructions to let it download, compile, and install libdvdcss.
[19:24] <boxmein> cscf, still doesn't
[19:24] <OerHeks> feneco, then restart the mediaplayer
[19:24] <feneco> OerHeks: I did
[19:25] <cscf> feneco, did you install libdvd-pkg ?
[19:25] <mordoc_ab> feneco: Does it work in VLC?
[19:25] <OerHeks> feneco, try an other dvd, not all dvd's will play..
[19:25] <feneco> cscf: yes, it showed a screen in the terminal to confirm
[19:25] <feneco> it doesn't work on vlc
[19:25] <feneco> let me try another dvd
[19:26] <jiffe> so I've installed ceph and had it running, on reboot it doesn't seem to be brought up and service ceph start doesn't start it, although service --status-all shows it as active
[19:26] <jiffe> tried a stop/start with no effect, stop shows it inactive and start shows it active but its still not running
[19:26] <feneco> tried another dvd it's not even showing in the system
[19:27] <feneco> this command doesn't work: sudo /usr/share/doc/libdvdread4/install-css.sh
[19:28] <JunkHunk> hello I am using xchat2. is there a way to bring up old history?
[19:28] <OerHeks> feneco, that command is for older versions. i have no clue why it doesnt work for you
[19:28] <ylarson> Can I migrate a workstation from NIS to Ldap/sssd (with homedir automount nfsv3) while a graphical user session is opened ? UID, GID, username are the same, only passwords differ. thanks
[19:29] <OerHeks> xchat is no longer under development, i remember that logs are not enabled by default
[19:29] <OerHeks> see the settings for the place of the data, JunkHunk
[19:29] <feneco> http://termbin.com/a4ua
[19:29] <jiffe> how does service --status-all determine if something is running?
[19:30] <feneco> I will reboot
[19:30] <jiffe> daemon_is_running looks like it is checking the pid file but there is no ceph pid file so it can't be that
[19:31] <jiffe> I'm really not liking systemd
[19:33] <jiffe> seems like we're s/fixing/breaking/ things that weren't broke
[19:35] <feneco> didnt help
[19:37] <feneco> :(
[19:37] <feneco> cant watch my dvds on ubuntu
[19:37] <ylarson> Can I migrate a workstation from NIS to Ldap/sssd (with homedir automount nfsv3) while a graphical user session is opened ? UID, GID, username are the same, only passwords differ
[19:39] <reisio> ylarson: mmm, I would assume as per usual it will all work until you end a required process
[19:39] <reisio> it'll all be in memory
[19:39] <reisio> same way you can use firefox after you've uninstalled it... as long as you don't close it or anything it requires
[19:40] <ylarson> reisio: even if UID and GID are the same .
[19:40] <ylarson> ?
[19:40] <reisio> that'd be my guess
[19:40] <reisio> I dare say having a reboot or re-login would be potentially smoother, though
[19:40] <reisio> might talk to #linux
[19:40] <ylarson> reisio: ok thanks :)
[19:41] <reisio> if it's not running something mission critical (which I'm guessing it isn't), then there's no real risk: have yourself an adventure
[19:41] <feneco> https://usercontent.irccloud-cdn.com/file/q0sioodm/
[19:41] <ylarson> reisio: I cannot sent message to #linux, maybe I don't have a registere login
[19:41] <reisio> ylarson: it's actually ##linux
[19:42] <reisio> because freenode is run by clowns
[19:42] <feneco> h3ll
[19:42] <reisio> most IRC clients will redirect for you
[19:42] <OerHeks> feneco, time to install restricted extras .. if that does not help, then that dvd is one of the 0.3% that won't play
[19:42] <ylarson> reisio: I think it's possible, there is no ticket (like kerberos), if ID are the same, I think it must be good
[19:42] <ylarson> ok :p
[19:42] <feneco> OerHeks: i've already installed ubuntu-restricted-extras :(
[19:43] <OerHeks> or load the dvd and wait, sometimes clicking something does this too
[19:43] <fl0k1> Hey i have a question
[19:43] <ylarson> " send to channel" :s
[19:43] <ThisIsWillster> Hello
[19:43] <reisio> ylarson: I think until all the processes already in use are killed, they will work fine the old way; and afterwards only the new
[19:43] <ThisIsWillster> Hey, I need serious help here.
[19:43] <reisio> ThisIsWillster: serious help granted
[19:43] <ThisIsWillster> I have a problem, deep shit.
[19:43] <fl0k1> i have a problem with my wifi driver
[19:44] <feneco> OerHeks: i will try with another dvd now
[19:44] <ThisIsWillster> OK, soon I have a windows 10 PC, it was resetting once and now there's no OS, it will not boot. I'm trying to install Ubuntu 16.04 on it. Anny tips?
[19:45] <feneco> only the seinfeld dvd is identified, but doesn't play
[19:45] <feneco> other dvds dont even show the dvd files
[19:45] <ylarson> reisio: I cant send message on ##linux ... So you think, I have to reboot after migrating ?
[19:45] <mordoc_ab> ThisIsWillster: Can you boot from a USB key, assuming that's how you were trying to install?
[19:45] <ThisIsWillster> No, I can't access the BIOS.
[19:46] <fl0k1> how can i install this: http://www.intel.com/content/www/us/en/support/network-and-i-o/wireless-networking/000005511.html drivers?
[19:46] <reisio> ylarson: mmm, you might have to be registered and identified, too: /msg nickserv help register /msg nickserv help identify
[19:46] <mordoc_ab> ThisIsWillster: So, just to check; it won't let you get to the BIOS?
[19:46] <reisio> ylarson: I think you can either reboot to make a clean break, or just wait for all processes to end, or just end all processes
[19:46] <reisio> the formermost and lattermost would be most sane, IMO
[19:47] <reisio> the lattermost would be the most efficient, avoiding a reboot, but
[19:47] <ylarson> reisio: ok, thanks
[19:47] <reisio> if it's not a "production" system, avoiding a reboot is not particularly important
[19:47] <ThisIsWillster> Nope, it displays no prompts (F12 for BIOS etc.) Just a blank screen with an ASUS logo slap banng in the middle
[19:47] <reisio> worth a try first, though; they do wear hardware more, reboots
[19:48] <ylarson> reisio: reboot all workstation with a sessions tunning, is not very simply ...
[19:48] <ylarson> runing*
[19:48] <ThisIsWillster> I did create a bootable stick with unetbootin on the Mac, but can't tell it to boot off it, as its scanning for an OS. It's been like this for ages, leave it on and it does the same thing.
[19:48] <mordoc_ab> ThisIsWillster: Hmm, sounds like our Lenovo's here. While it doesn't display it pressing F1 repeatedly during boot still brings up a BIOS screen though.
[19:48] <reisio> ending all user-related processes would be simpler and better for the hardware, indeed
[19:49] <ThisIsWillster> Kk, I'll try it now (5mins)
[19:49] <mordoc_ab> ThisIsWillster: brb myself...
[19:50] <ylarson> reisio: so the better is to migrate at startup : cron @reboot for example ?
[19:51] <reisio> ylarson: avoiding reboots is always better, except when: the effort/time involved in avoiding the reboot is much greater
[19:52] <ThisIsWillster> Tried spamming F12. No good.
[19:53] <ylarson> quelqu'un s'y connait en NIS / LDAP avec automontage des home en NFSv3, j'ai une question pour migrer NIS => LDAP pour savoir si cela peut se faire session ouverte
[19:54] <ThisIsWillster> Tried hitting F1. Has a little ZZZ icon on it but it has turned the computer off.
[19:55] <ylarson> reisio: ok, I chat with you here ;)
[19:56] <ylarson> my english is so bad ...
[19:56] <huuygt77> hi
[19:57] <huuygt77> is anyone here?
[19:57] <huuygt77> r
[19:57] <mordoc_ab> ThisIsWillster: Makes sense as it's one of those dual function things when it is booted inside the OS. But during boot it did nothing eh?
[19:57] <ylarson> reisio: Process A is lanching using UID/GID provided by NIS, I replace NIS to LDAP (with same UID/GID), process A is impacted ?
[19:58] <ThisIsWillster> Nope. I did try putting the USB in. No luck with that either. Is it a potato then?
[19:58] <huuygt77> this is the first time i have been on irc!
[19:58] <mordoc_ab> ThisIsWillster: Apparently on the ASUS machines, you are to hit the delete key repeatedly for the bios
[19:58] <ThisIsWillster> Kk, I'll try that
[19:58] <huuygt77> what type of asus? a new one
[19:59] <huuygt77> if it has uefi it will be hard for you
[19:59] <ThisIsWillster> Thank you mordoc®
[19:59] <ThisIsWillster> It worked
[19:59] <ThisIsWillster> In to the bios
[19:59] <huuygt77> good
[19:59] <OerHeks> huuygt77, uefi is no problem
[19:59] <OerHeks> !uefi
[20:00] <huuygt77> ok
[20:00] <huuygt77> uefi is utter rubbish
[20:00] <mordoc_ab> ThisIsWillster: Other sites are saying that F2 is the key. Wow ASUS get it right eh?
[20:00] <huuygt77> why mac had to make life diffricult i dont know
[20:01] <ThisIsWillster> Yep! Thank you so much I've never got his far
[20:01] <ThisIsWillster> What doo I do now
[20:01] <BluesKaj> you can thank intel for that altho microsoft is to blame as well
[20:01] <huuygt77> yea
[20:02] <huuygt77> wow what a busy channel
[20:03] <mordoc_ab> ThisIsWillster: I would check the boot options to see you can set the USB key as a boot option.
[20:03] <ThisIsWillster> Hey <mordoc_ab> what doo I'd do now I'm in the. Bios
[20:03] <ThisIsWillster> Kk
[20:04] <reisio> ylarson: would be nice if there were a clearcut howto on the matter, wouldn't it
[20:04] <mordoc_ab> ThisIsWillster: Another thing to consider is that you could try a recovery on the Windows 10 install too. I think you press F8 during the boot process.
[20:04] <ThisIsWillster> I'm in a menu, it says BOOT at the top. It has 4 options : Add boot option Select Filesystem Path for boot option and Create
[20:04] <reisio> ylarson: seen this? https://help.ubuntu.com/community/OpenLDAPServer
[20:05] <jiffe> how does one troubleshoot systemd process startup issues when systemctl status shows Active: active (exited)
[20:05] <ThisIsWillster> Tried resetting. No luck
[20:06] <mordoc_ab> ThisIsWillster: Wow, not something that I've seen on our machines here. I'd try in boot options and see if USB drive is listed and if you can enable it somehow.
[20:07] <ThisIsWillster> Nope. Closest I can get is BOOT. Add new boot option.
[20:10] <mordoc_ab> ThisIsWillster: Might want to try the Windows 10 recovery option instead. At least would get you back to a working system while you read up on booting to Linux on this guy.
[20:10] <OerHeks> some bios versions you need to set bootorder(usb) and hdd order, there would appear the usb as device too
[20:10] <huuygt77> hi
[20:10] <coolmadmax> ThisIsWillster, reboot laptop and pres etc to boot menu
[20:10] <huuygt77> windows sucks
[20:11] <coolmadmax> ThisIsWillster, esc
[20:11] <huuygt77> debian or freebsd is better than ubuntu
[20:11] <reisio> good story
[20:11] <nacc> huuygt77: please stay on topic
[20:11] <OerHeks> huuygt77, please keep this channel free for support
[20:11] <huuygt77> okok
[20:11] <huuygt77> bye
[20:11] <dax> toodles
[20:11] <ThisIsWillster> Nope mordoc_ab the F8 thing don't work. ;(
[20:13] <mordoc_ab> ThisIsWillster: coolmadmax might on the right idea here. The web says ESC will give a boot menu...
[20:14] <ThisIsWillster> Kk
[20:14] <ThisIsWillster> It doors thanks madmax
[20:15] <mordoc_ab> coolmadmax: Well done sir.
[20:15] <jhinkley> hi, how do I give write permission to an hfs+ external hd
[20:16] <thenickman> hi?
[20:16] <thenickman> !yeap
[20:16] <ThisIsWillster> It did say it wood boot. It didn't. Shall I install it on the boorable USB agaiin?
[20:18] <ThisIsWillster> Oh OK. Soory. Bootable USB is empty. No files :0
[20:18] <mordoc_ab> ThisIsWillster: I would.
[20:18] <ThisIsWillster> Kk
[20:19] <ThisIsWillster> So try again with the bootable stick?
[20:19] <mordoc_ab> ThisIsWillster: If it completes as it should on your Mac, I think you should see some folders on such on the drive when the process completes. Sorry it's been awhile since I did this on a Mac.
[20:20] <ThisIsWillster> My mistake. I thought it was bootabble :P
[20:21] <mordoc_ab> ThisIsWillster: Don't be too hard on yourself. I've had mixed results with uNetBootin...
[20:22] <ThisIsWillster> Yeah...cheers m8. Just erased it now.
[20:22] <thenickman> does dd still work for usb imaging?
[20:22] <Threadnaught> do you guys support cub, I would ask in their irc channel but it's a bit empty right now
[20:22] <OerHeks> thenickman, sure, but do perform 'sync' after that.
[20:23] <ThisIsWillster> Lol, watching horrid henry while waiting.
[20:23] <tgm4883> Threadnaught: what is cub?
[20:23] <Threadnaught> tgm4883: cub linux? its based off ubuntu
[20:23] <tgm4883> Threadnaught: oh, then no
[20:23] <le_pig> Isn't cub Chromium?
[20:23] <OerHeks> oh, forks are not supported here, the have their own issues
[20:24] <Threadnaught> I understand, It's just that I have audio problems and based on googling i think ubuntu people have similar problems
[20:24] <ThisIsWillster> Gonna take a while
[20:25] <mordoc_ab> ThisIsWillster: Sweet, well enjoy the new found freedom of Ubuntu...
[20:27] <ThisIsWillster> Yep love ubuntu more than windows. It just feels relaxing. So seeing as it's free, and my PC Is crying out to me. I'll give it a go. I have also had loads of Ubuntu virtual machines and they're great. So I'll go for it.
[20:27] <tgm4883> Threadnaught: while it's possible, we're not sure what changes cub people have done. That is why we direct you to their channel
[20:28] <Threadnaught> tgm4883: I understand, I'm gonna go shout into an empty channel now
[20:28] <tgm4883> Threadnaught: ok
[20:28] <tgm4883> Threadnaught: seriously though, that is all the more reason to use a well supported distro
[20:28] <whlai> hello all
[20:28] <whlai> need a fireman
[20:29] <jhinkley> hey, I know I am asking again, but how do I grant write permission to an hfsplus external hd
[20:29] <whlai> Here's the story .... Have a drive that had Windows and Ubuntu installed. Ubuntu was acting up so went to do a reinstall. When I did the reinstall, I chose the first option rather than "something else".
[20:30] <jhinkley> i tried to edit /etc/fstab a certain way but to no avail
[20:30] <K-arch> chmod 775
[20:30] <whlai> At this moment, there's only Windows partitions and EXT4 partition that is empty (I deleted contents)
 oh god, so you formatted the whole drive?
[20:30] <whlai> no
[20:30] <jhinkley> i tried to do chmod 777 but that did not work
[20:30] <whlai> Just the partitions where Ubuntu was
[20:30] <whlai> But Grub doesn't have Windows anymore
[20:31] <OerHeks> jhinkley, by disabling journaling, but you don't want that...
[20:31] <whlai> How do I re-add windows to grub
[20:31] <ThisIsWillster> Oh its done
[20:31] <OerHeks> https://help.ubuntu.com/community/hfsplus
[20:31] <EriC^^> whlai: you might have formatted the efi partition
[20:31] <EriC^^> whlai: are you in ubuntu right now?
[20:31] <mordoc_ab> jhinkley: AskUbuntu has a good deal of entries that might help. Too involved to type it all here...
[20:31] <jhinkley> i hear that you can mount -o force without disabling journaling
[20:31] <K-arch> do            ls -la          and see who has ownership of  the files
[20:31] <whlai> I'm in the installer now
[20:32] <whlai> USB installer
[20:32] <ThisIsWillster> Oh thank you so much
[20:32] <EriC^^> whlai: can you get a terminal?
[20:32] <whlai> with a EXT4 partition available for the Ubuntu reinstall
[20:32] <whlai> sure
[20:32] <whlai> let me finish the reinstall and then I can
[20:32] <whlai> wait
[20:32] <ThisIsWillster> OK just selected install Ubuntu
[20:32] <EriC^^> whlai: is there an efi partition? fat32
[20:33] <whlai> Eric^^: I do not see one
[20:33] <whlai> I have:
[20:33] <OerHeks> jhinkley, no, and askubuntu says either: disable journaling .. http://askubuntu.com/questions/714545/cannot-mount-hfs-partition-on-read-write
[20:33] <OerHeks> but you don't want that.
[20:33] <whlai> sda1 (ntfs) sda2 (ntfs) sda5 (ext4) sda3 (ntfs)
[20:33] <whlai> in that order
[20:34] <K-arch> then do chown  -R you:you the files folder
[20:34] <whlai> sda1 is 104MB
[20:34] <jhinkley> it says user 99 owns it
[20:34] <OerHeks> ( i wouldn't too) so make a ntfs / ext3/4 partition on that drive and share it that way
[20:34] <ThisIsWillster> Mordoc_ab its done
[20:34] <srdjan> Hi. Trying to install kubuntu 16.04 from DVD... the installer makes no mention that it will partition using GPT... is this ok?
[20:34] <ThisIsWillster> Just installing. Thank you so much!!
[20:35] <K-arch> yeah 99 sounds wrong should be like 1000 or 1001
[20:35] <mordoc_ab> ThisIsWillster: Coolmadmax is the one that deserves the credit. Glad that your to the install point.
[20:35] <whlai> When I do my reinstall, where should I put the boot loader installation?
[20:35] <whlai> just sda?
[20:35] <EriC^^> whlai: /dev/sda
[20:35] <ThisIsWillster> Thanks coolmadmax and mordooc_ab
[20:35] <whlai> kk
[20:35] <EriC^^> yeah
[20:36] <daniel01> Hi, regarding ubuntu snaps does appimage and flatpak address the same issue?
[20:36] <ThisIsWillster> Just entering WiFi stuff.
[20:36] <K-arch> example is sudo chown  -R k-arch:k-arch folder
[20:36] <whlai> No root file system is defined
[20:36] <coolmadmax> ThisIsWillster, you're welcome
[20:36] <whlai> nm
[20:36] <whlai> fixed that
[20:37] <ThisIsWillster> :)))))
[20:37] <jhinkley> OerHeks, I was looking at this: https://raamdev.com/2008/mounting-hfs-with-write-access-in-debian/0 0
[20:37] <ThisIsWillster> I can now use this damn PC again. Tip for your kids, never buy a Windows PC.
[20:37] <jhinkley> is that not ok
[20:39] <OerHeks> jhinkley, again: there is no way without disabling journaling , so make a ntfs / ext3/4 partition on that drive and share it that way
[20:39] <jhinkley> ok, any quick lesson on how to do that
[20:39] <K-arch>  HFS filesystem <<< that's your problem
[20:39] <jhinkley> yeah
[20:40] <whlai> Alright, how should I install this 14.04 in the free space?
[20:40] <whlai> logical?
[20:40] <whlai> EriC^^?
[20:40] <EriC^^> whlai: yeah
[20:41] <whlai> logical it is
[20:41] <whlai> with a mount point /
[20:41] <whlai> yes?
[20:41] <auronandace> whlai: / is the only mountpoint you need to specify, yes
[20:45] <reokie>  /close
[20:48] <feneco> seems to be an issue with ubuntu only, osx and windows could play my dvds :(
[20:48] <whlai> EriC^^: can you point me to a decent resource to get Windows partition associated with Grub again?
[20:49] <palli_> Good evening.
[20:49] <dewdl> hello
[20:49] <auronandace> !dvd | feneco
[20:50] <OerHeks> auronandace, apt-get install libdvd-pkg seems not to work for him
[20:50] <auronandace> whlai: grub should automatically detect your windows installation and offer it as a boot option
[20:50] <mordoc_ab> ThisIsWillster: How's the install going?
[20:50] <feneco> yea :(
[20:52] <feneco> I think I can live with that, no DVDs
[20:52] <CheetahPixie> Just wanted to show dad around Linux a bit
[20:52] <CheetahPixie> "but I will get a GUI, right?"
[20:52] <CheetahPixie> alt+f7
[20:52] <CheetahPixie> "of course you will"
[20:52] <feneco> I will try to purge and reinstall
[20:53] <CheetahPixie> was pretty much trying to demonstrate to old pops that Linux is built on top of the text mode, not just a pure GUI thing like Windows
[20:53] <OerHeks> CheetahPixie, show him alsamixer in terminal  :-D
[20:54] <CheetahPixie> lol
[20:54] <CheetahPixie> I should have
[20:54] <CheetahPixie> (I actually just used the ttys because I fucking loved the hell out of them while programming Java, Python and other stuff for class, and I used it also to test everything, because "everything" was a console program)
[20:55] <dewdl> whats the joke about alsamixer?
[20:55] <CheetahPixie> Volume control via terminal
[20:55] <CheetahPixie> also I know there are terminal audio players
[20:55] <CheetahPixie> welcome new folk
[20:56] <redtuxedocash> does sudo apt-get install and sudo apt install, have the same role and doesn't have any impact anything at all?
[20:56] <OerHeks> redtuxedocash, as of 16.04, no difference
[20:56] <OerHeks> you still can use them both*
[20:56] <CheetahPixie> That reminds me, how do I access a non-booted partition's recycle bin?
[20:57] <auronandace> CheetahPixie: first you'd need to mount the partition
[20:57] <CheetahPixie> It's mounted.
[20:58] <CheetahPixie> Just don't know where it is.
[20:58] <CheetahPixie> (too used to Debian at this point I guess)
[20:59] <\9> CheetahPixie: mount -l
[20:59] <\9> CheetahPixie: should show it
[21:00] <CheetahPixie> hmm
[21:00] <CheetahPixie> mmmnope
[21:00] <CheetahPixie> can't see a bin
[21:00] <feneco> is there any other video player I could try isntead of VLC?
[21:01] <CheetahPixie> \9 I am just missing the location of the recycle bin. The partition itself is mounted, and I'm stuck @nautilus
[21:02] <\9> I don't know by heart where the recycle bin is
[21:02] <alpha__> feneco try gnome mpv
[21:02] <alpha__> in the repo
[21:02] <feneco> alpha__: you mean the default video software on gnome?
[21:03] <alpha__> not sure what is default for your installation
[21:03] <feneco> smplayer worked =D
[21:03] <alpha__> atp-get install gnome-mpv
[21:04] <CheetahPixie> oooooooh
[21:04] <CheetahPixie> ~/.trash
[21:04] <OerHeks> oh, so it was a VLC issue, feneco ? :-(
[21:04] <alpha__> *apt-get install gnome-mpv
[21:04] <feneco> OerHeks: seems that on Gnome Videos and VLC it doesn't work
[21:04] <CheetahPixie> wait no
[21:04] <CheetahPixie> doesn't work
[21:05] <CheetahPixie> oor
[21:05] <CheetahPixie> wait
[21:05] <CheetahPixie> i'm dumb
[21:05] <CheetahPixie> fuck you windows for making me ignore the capital T
[21:05] <CheetahPixie> sorry mr T
[21:05] <feneco> OerHeks: I think it's something between the codecs/dvd driver, now it worked on VLC
[21:05] <OerHeks> !language
[21:05] <feneco> i didnt install anything new but the smplayer
[21:05] <CheetahPixie> still no
[21:06] <CheetahPixie> hmm
[21:06] <m3n3chm0> do you know if jdownloader2 handle torrents ¿?
[21:06] <feneco> but quality is worse than windows mpc-hc and the dvd player on OSX
[21:06] <CheetahPixie> found it
[21:06] <CheetahPixie> ~/.local/share/Trash/*
[21:06] <CheetahPixie> for anyone else wondering
[21:07] <feneco> but I am happy that it worked
[21:09] <henry__> como mapear unidades de red windows en linux?
[21:09] <henry__> how to map network drives windows linux?
[21:10] <auronandace> !samba | henry__
[21:10] <samthewildone> http://pastebin.ubuntu.com/16746539/
[21:11] <henry__> ok. Thansk
[21:11] <samthewildone> I am unable to run executable even with proper permissions.
[21:11] <samthewildone> http://pastebin.ubuntu.com/16746539/
[21:12] <samthewildone> dax, well then
[21:12] <OerHeks> grinn, blackbox
[21:12] <samthewildone> OerHeks, :|
[21:13] <samthewildone> OerHeks, I have a lot of computers on my network which start with black.
[21:14] <volumeprobs> Hey everyopne. VLC 2.1.6 on Xubuntu 14.04 having low volume problems only with SOME movies. Music and other movies even of same file type and uploader play fine. The problem movies also play fine on VLC/OSX.Have chekcked and reset system and VLC audi with no change. Problem was duplicated with another Ubuntu based distro Elementary OS on VLC.
[21:14] <volumeprobs> Have to crank system and VLC volume to highest level to barely hear. It's all volume not just a dynamic issue. Same thing happens with SMPlayer and Totem
[21:15] <volumeprobs>  The problem movies play fine on other OS's with VLC or other players
[21:16] <OerHeks> samthewildone,  if you are trying AA, ./run25Assist > https://wiki.ubuntuusers.de/Spiele/Americas_Army/
[21:18] <samthewildone> ...
[21:19] <m3n3chm0> do you know if jdownloader2 handle torrents ¿?
[21:19] <samthewildone> I think I know what problem is .
[21:19] <CheetahPixie> I showed dad alsamixer
[21:19] <CheetahPixie> "i have nothing to do with any of this"
[21:19] <CheetahPixie> oh, how little you know, old man
[21:20] <StNicolas> Another question ... I have a wifi dongle with a RTL 8814AU chipset.  The seller said it was compatible Linux. I haven't found that to be true.  I've googled it, but can't find the driver for this under Ubuntu.  Any takers for the question?
[21:20] <CheetahPixie> Try plugging it in.
[21:20] <CheetahPixie> Does it work instantly?
[21:20] <CheetahPixie> If no, hold on.
[21:21] <StNicolas> CheetahPixie: No it doesn't.  That's why I am asking for help
[21:21] <CheetahPixie> Alright.
[21:21] <CheetahPixie> One moment.
[21:21] <StNicolas> CheetahPixie: Thx
[21:22] <jarlopez> Is it a faux-pas to cross-post questions on AskUbuntu and StackOverflow?
[21:24] <CheetahPixie> Hmm.
[21:24] <CheetahPixie> I remember encountering something of this sort before.
[21:24] <CheetahPixie> They had a driver on a disk.
[21:24] <CheetahPixie> Did one come with your adapter?
[21:25] <CheetahPixie> It says on realtek.com.tw they have a Linux driver, kernel 2 and 3.
[21:25] <StNicolas> CheetahPixie: I saw a mini CD
[21:26] <StNicolas> I think I still have it
[21:26] <CheetahPixie> Insert it.
[21:27] <CheetahPixie> Which is this: USB or PCI device, StNicolas ?
[21:29] <StNicolas> CheetahPixie: USB Wifi dongle
[21:30] <StNicolas> CheetahPixie: Just found the CD
[21:30] <ubuntuFOLK> Hello. I've gone through the process of installing a partition that wasn't showing. Now how do I make it boot again?
[21:30] <CheetahPixie> Awesome.
[21:31] <CheetahPixie> ubuntuFOLK : If you got something else that can boot into a Linux session and has GRUB, issue grub-update on it and see if it picks up the partition that's not booting. If it does, boot into it, and issue grub-update on it also, see if it finds itself. If it does, it should be solved.
[21:32] <CheetahPixie> StNicolas : Does it have any drivers on it?
[21:32] <StNicolas> CheetahPixie: I'm trying to find the CD
[21:32] <mentoc_> is there a setting to use /etc/cron.d/crond instead of crontab -e?
[21:32] <ubuntuFOLK> CheetahPixie, just grub-update? don't I need to do any previous steps like mounting and editing files etc?
[21:33] <mentoc_> cron is ignoring /etc/cron.d/crond
[21:33] <mentoc_> but it honors crontab -e entries
[21:33] <CheetahPixie> grub-update should be enough to *find* a partition from which to boot.
[21:33] <CheetahPixie> and then use GRUB after a reboot to boot into it.
[21:33] <ubuntuFOLK> ok lemme try
[21:34] <StNicolas> CheetahPixie: It's a mini CD
[21:35] <CheetahPixie> Yeah?
[21:35] <LTCD> Hey I just installed Tomcat on Ubuntu server within my virtualmachine. I know it's running on port 8080, but how can I get the IP address of the box? :/
[21:35] <CheetahPixie> Didn't you say you found it?
[21:35] <StNicolas> CheetahPixie: It's not showing up in "files"
[21:35] <CheetahPixie> hmm
[21:36] <CheetahPixie> Maybe check check http://www.realtek.com.tw/Downloads/downloadsView.aspx?Langid=1&PFid=7&Level=5&Conn=4&DownTypeID=3 ?
[21:36] <StNicolas> CheetahPixie: I put the physical CD in the drive, but, unlike most CDs, I don't have a popup and can't find it in a file system
[21:36] <CheetahPixie> hmm
[21:36] <CheetahPixie> alright
[21:37] <StNicolas> CheetahPixie: Not really alright, but I'm trying to find it through software
[21:37] <CheetahPixie> Only thing I can say is check whether the disc has scratches, or rebooting, but that might sound dumb.
[21:37] <ubuntuFOLK> oh, looks like this distro doesn't have grub, I get "grub-update command not found"
[21:38] <CheetahPixie> aww
[21:38] <CheetahPixie> What does it have?
[21:38] <CheetahPixie> LILO? Something else?
[21:38] <ubuntuFOLK> it's ubuntu mate edition
[21:38] <CheetahPixie> hmm
[21:38] <LTCD> How do I get IP of virtualbox?
[21:39] <StNicolas> CheetahPixie: Finally, it showed up
[21:39] <StNicolas> CheetahPixie: In which directory should I look?
[21:39] <CheetahPixie> Can you install it?
[21:40] <CheetahPixie> StNicolas: I would suggest searching the entire disc. It might be in some archaic folder.
[21:40] <ubuntuFOLK> CheetahPixie, if last message was for me, what's the name of the pkg?
[21:40] <CheetahPixie> Look around for an .sh file.
[21:40] <CheetahPixie> ubuntuFOLK: I think grub is the metapackage. Try that?
[21:40] <ubuntuFOLK> allright
[21:40] <CheetahPixie> StNicolas: If you find an .sh file, there should be a readme around that folder also.
[21:40]  * ubuntuFOLK installing grub
[21:42] <ubuntuFOLK> is grub-update the same as update-grub? coz the first one returns "command not found" but the second one works
[21:42] <CheetahPixie> Let the latter run
[21:42] <CheetahPixie> see if it pops up with entries for the bootloader
[21:42] <CheetahPixie> if yes, then I mixed the commands up (again)
[21:43] <ubuntuFOLK> no, it only found memtest entries
[21:43] <CheetahPixie> hmm
[21:43] <CheetahPixie> okay
[21:43] <Jordan_U> ubuntuFOLK:  CheetahPixie  Do *not* install the "grub" package.
[21:43] <StNicolas> CheetahPixie: Listen, I have the following directories ... "ASM1042USB3.0", Express to esata","Express to RS232","FL1000USB3.0","NECUSB3.0",two directories that start PCMCIA,"SIL3132","SIL3512",and "VIAUSB2.0"
[21:43] <ubuntuFOLK> Jordan_U, I've already installed it. Why not?
[21:44] <Jordan_U> ubuntuFOLK: Because that installs grub legacy,and you want grub2 (which is what Ubuntu comes with by default).
[21:44] <ubuntuFOLK> Jordan_U, should I reboot live cd and start over without installing grub?
[21:45] <CheetahPixie> apt-get install grub2 I guess
[21:45] <StNicolas> CheetahPixie: For the moment, I only have USB2.0, but will have a USB3.0 solution Monday
[21:46] <Jordan_U> CheetahPixie: Please stop guessing. If you don't know the answer, no answer is better than the wrong one.
[21:46] <ubuntuFOLK> trying to install grub2 now gives me dependencies conflicts. I'll just reboot and start over. BRB
[21:47] <CheetahPixie> Well, I solved this problem myself a ways back so the answer's probably covered with more rust than a '80something Citroen.
[21:47] <CheetahPixie> StNicolas: Did you find any .sh files, at all, on the disc?
[21:48] <CheetahPixie> If you do find .sh files, there should be readmes in the same folders that tell you what the driver is for.
[21:48] <CheetahPixie> And, without doubt, one of these *should* contain your RTL8814AU.
[21:49] <StNicolas> CheetahPixie: The closest I've found is Fedora or SUSE, but there are several directories
[21:49] <CheetahPixie> hmm
[21:50] <CheetahPixie> You're using a graphical file manager, yeah?
[21:50] <CheetahPixie> Should be a search function in those.
[21:50] <CheetahPixie> Are Fedora and SUSE the only things you see, Linux related?
[21:50] <CheetahPixie> There might be a "generic" directory for these, too, so watch out.
[21:51] <CheetahPixie> Generic ones generally contain bare code that compiles itself into a kernel module at .sh run time and drops it in.
[21:51] <ubuntuFOLK> ok I'm back...
[21:52] <Jordan_U> ubuntuFOLK: OK. So to be clear. You have Ubuntu installed but you can't currently boot from it. Correct?
[21:53] <ubuntuFOLK> some ubuntues and a mint install. If I can recover any of them I will be able to recover the otheres on my own.
[21:53] <Jordan_U> ubuntuFOLK: OK. What happens when you try to boot right now?
[21:53] <ubuntuFOLK> grub rescue
[21:53] <StNicolas> CheetahPixie: I haven't yet found something except a couple versions, apparently, for Fedora (like 4 directories that start with "Fedora..." and as many "SUSE..."
[21:53] <CheetahPixie> hmm
[21:54] <Jordan_U> ubuntuFOLK: Do you see an error message before the grub rescue prompt?
[21:54] <CheetahPixie> What do the Fedora/SUSE directories contain?
[21:54] <CheetahPixie> Packages or source?
[21:54] <ubuntuFOLK> there are one of two lines before the grub rescue prompt. I think it's something like "can't find partition" but don't remember exactly. Should I copy that down now?
[21:55] <ubuntuFOLK> one *or two
[21:55] <Jordan_U> StNicolas: I wouldn't hold out a lot of hope for any "drivers" on that CD. At best you're going to find source code written against an ancient kernel that doesn't compile with a modern kernel.
[21:55] <staeksauce> every time I reboot I have to reset my sound output to my headphones to hear anything, is there a way to make my headphones the default sound output?
[21:56] <StNicolas> Jordan_U: But there must be a solution
[21:56] <CheetahPixie> The madman in me says compile the code blindly
[21:56] <StNicolas> I don't know, but I'll keep searching
[21:56] <StNicolas> thx
[21:56] <ubuntuFOLK> Also, I recently got those partitions to show again in apps such as gparted becuase I only saw unallocated space before
[21:56] <CheetahPixie> The sensible me says look at the link I tossed earlier
[21:56] <CheetahPixie> (which seems to be a fairly recent driver)
[21:56] <CheetahPixie> (and a generic one)
[21:57] <feneco> hi, suddenly my chrome tabs style changed on chrome, did it update for you too?
[21:57] <feneco> https://usercontent.irccloud-cdn.com/file/bXD3jmlG/
[21:57] <Jordan_U> ubuntuFOLK: How did you "get them to show again"?
[21:57] <ubuntuFOLK> with testdisk
[21:57] <CheetahPixie> StNicolas google + "rtl8814au driver" leads to "realtek.com.tw" on which I spotted a download for a Linux driver for 2.4.x, 2.6.x and 3.x
[21:57] <CheetahPixie> oh
[21:57] <CheetahPixie> he left
[21:57] <CheetahPixie> aww
[21:58] <CheetahPixie> well, i tried
[21:58] <CheetahPixie> thanks Jordan_U for helping out the helpless (me included)
[21:58] <ubuntuFOLK> I could only get some of them to show again, I had so many partitions it was impossible for me to figure the right structyure in testdisk, so I just reenabled the most vital ones (the ubuntues and the mint partition)
[21:59] <Jordan_U> !bootinfo | ubuntuFOLK
[22:00] <CheetahPixie> Well!
[22:00] <CheetahPixie> I'm going now.
[22:00] <CheetahPixie> I am on a "borrowed" machine I should be installing 16.04 to...
[22:00] <CheetahPixie> Just got front panel USB working so woo
[22:00] <CheetahPixie> anyway, thanks guys and seeyou
[22:00] <Jordan_U> ubuntuFOLK: Please use http://sprunge.us or another service that can give a "raw" plain text link to the RESULTS.txt though. I'm currently using dialup and so pretty much anything more than the text of the paste is going to be too heavy to load reasonably :)
[22:01] <ubuntuFOLK> Jordan_U, ok one sec
[22:05] <ubuntuFOLK> oh how do I use the sprunge?
[22:06] <snfgf> Hello!
[22:06] <dewdl> hi
[22:06] <snfgf> can I enable only certain users to login via ssh using password authentication?
[22:08] <Jordan_U> ubuntuFOLK: cat RESULTS.txt | curl -F 'sprunge=<-' http://sprunge.us
[22:08] <OerHeks> snfgf, 2 answers, i would make a group, http://serverfault.com/questions/387121/restrict-password-based-ssh-access-per-user-but-allow-key-authentication
[22:09] <snfgf> OerHeks, that sounds like a good idea
[22:10] <ubuntuFOLK> Jordan_U, curl not installed/installable, had to use pastebinit: http://sprunge.us/GIQb
[22:13] <snfgf> OerHeks, so 'PasswordAuthentication no\n Match ssh_users PasswordAuthentication yes'
[22:14] <OerHeks> Match group ssh_users
[22:14] <snfgf> lol, I'm a moron
[22:14] <snfgf> o_O
[22:15] <ubuntuFOLK> I've only got a 500gb hard disk btw
[22:15] <iosah> how can I get the latest VLC on 14.04? Using Software Center and apt-get update it won't go past 2.16 which is quite old
[22:15] <iosah> 2.16 has some issues that I am told are fixed in more current iterations
[22:15] <ubuntuFOLK> "/dev/sdb" is the live usb I'm currently using
[22:16] <snfgf> OerHeks, just a 'groupadd ssh_users', it should not need to be a system group, right?
[22:16] <Conder> hi, i have one small problem, i installed ubuntu to dualboot with win10. after installation i restarted PC but now i cant boot ubuntu. i dont see it in UEFI boot menu
[22:16] <OerHeks> snfgf, yes, a seperate 'system' group
[22:17] <snfgf> OerHeks, that would mean using the '-r' flag? Why a system group rather than a regular group? The only difference it seems is the range from which gid is allocated.
[22:19] <Jordan_U> ubuntuFOLK: I don't see any Ubuntu onstallation there so lets move to #grub.
[22:19] <OerHeks> snfgf, good point, systemwide or just local ..
[22:19] <ubuntuFOLK> Jordan_U, but there are ubuntu installs, gparted shows them
[22:20] <OerHeks> snfgf, i assume systemwide
[22:24] <snfgf> OerHeks, worked very well, thank you
[22:26] <Jordan_U> ubuntuFOLK: What partition do you think contains Ubuntu?
[22:26] <ubuntuFOLK> I'll tell you...
[22:28] <ubuntuFOLK> there are some ~200mb partitions. Those are boot partitions for various ubuntus.
[22:30] <ubuntuFOLK> BRB
[22:30] <C_minus> haven't been able to use apt-get lately, "...you have held broken packages", I suspect because I blocked several updates for a while. How can I fix this?
[22:31] <OerHeks> without blocked updates, i would say install -f
[22:31] <OerHeks> why block updates, they might have caused your situation..
[22:33] <C_minus> OerHeks kernel updates don't play nice with my nvidia drivers, so I blocked them the last few weeks because I've been too busy to deal with not having a desktop environment.
[22:34] <ubuntuFOLK> I just checked and the error is indeed "no such partition"
[22:42] <mangix>  hello, i have an issue with a CIFS entry in fstab where it prevents shutdown. basically, systemd kills networkmanager and then tries to unmount the CIFS entry. anyone know how to make it unmount before NetworkManager gets killed?
[22:44] <snfgf> I can't seem to kill stopped jobs. '# kill -SIGINT $(jobs -p)'; that should work?
[22:46] <Kenrin> kill 'jobs -ps'
[22:47] <Kenrin> er wait
[22:47] <Kenrin> you need the sig
[22:48] <Kenrin> kill -9 $(jobs -p)
[22:51] <snfgf> Kenrin, Which signal does -9 correspond to?
[22:51] <Kenrin> sigkill
[22:51] <snfgf> It worked, but 'kill -SIGTERM' and 'kill -SIGINT' do not
[22:51] <Kenrin> -15 is sigterm.  Not sure what sigint is
[22:58] <Exagone313> Kenrin: for next time, here a page where you have the list of signals https://bash.cyberciti.biz/guide/Sending_signal_to_Processes
[22:59] <Exagone313> kill -l
[22:59] <ninjah> is there a way to list user information? I
[22:59] <ninjah> I'd like to see things like phone number etc
[22:59] <MonkeyDust> ninjah  that's not appropriate for this channel
[23:00] <ninjah> not for IRC
[23:00] <ninjah> but for a linux system
[23:00] <Exagone313> what information?
[23:00] <Exagone313> hmm
[23:00] <ninjah> when you add a new user to a linux box it will ask for things like phone number.
[23:00] <ninjah> how do you list that info
[23:00] <bazhang> ninjah, memorize your own number
[23:01] <Exagone313> I don't know where it is stored, and if there are commands to list those information
[23:01] <Exagone313> look into that
[23:01] <Ben64> i think you use 'finger'
[23:01] <bazhang> ninjah, sounds like you want to crack or something
[23:01] <ninjah> finger?
[23:01] <ninjah> no
[23:01] <ninjah> no cracking here
[23:01] <bazhang> ninjah, we wont help with that
[23:01] <ninjah> just trying to look up user information on a system
[23:01] <Exagone313> ninjah: see ##linux
[23:02] <Exagone313> ask where it is stored and how to get it
[23:02] <ninjah> I'm just looking for the info you add with the command "useradd"
[23:03] <Exagone313> oops it's #ubuntu here
[23:03] <Exagone313> I thought I was on another channel
[23:03] <Ben64> yep, it's finger
[23:03] <Kenrin> ninjah is trying to finger people ?
[23:03] <Ben64> http://paste.ubuntu.com/16749666/
[23:04] <ninjah> Kenrin Ben64 Thanks!
[23:10] <Conder> hi, please can someone help me? i cant boot ubuntu after installation, its not visible in uefi boot menu. boot-repair log: http://paste2.org/1kfzFHtU
[23:11] <OerHeks> Conder, see line 1093 Please disable SecureBoot in the BIOS. Then try again.Do you want to continue?
[23:12] <Conder> i tried it, didnt help
[23:12] <OerHeks> reinstall the grub-efi-amd64-signed of sda5 is needed ..
[23:13] <Conder> how to do it pls?
[23:17] <Extreminador> hi guys i have installed on a friend laptop the ubuntu but i think there is some key being always pressed
[23:17] <Extreminador> since the start of the computer... is there any way to disable that key and any way to know what key is being pressed contantly ?
[23:18] <ziggy_> perhaps he as sticky keys?
[23:18] <ziggy_> try cleaning it.
[23:18] <Gin> I've been looking into exchanging the kernel on installation media for a custom one, the current kernel lacks modules that I require to get WiFi working on a tablet I got laying around. Would love to push those modules into the kernel on the stick. So I get internet access while installing atleast. Is it just a matter of compiling the kernel, and moving the kernel to casper/vmlinuz or do I have to take further steps?
[23:19] <Kenrin> Got to rename it in grub menu too
[23:19] <Extreminador> humm ziggy_ it's weard cause it seems it only happens when computer is botting
[23:19] <sodomy> Hi, got an interesting problem.  I'm trying to enable more console ttys - i've made X11 start on another tty, and configured logind.conf to start more ttys.  But, no matter what I try, it won't start a getty on tty7 - any ideas?
[23:19] <Gin> Kenrin, that is noted, but I assume your thinking it'll work?
[23:19] <Extreminador> i am atm with libreoffice open and no key is being pressed
[23:19] <Guest61626> i'm on a 16.04 live system. why can't i write to my internal drive, but i can to my usb drive?
[23:20] <Kenrin> It should work just fine as long as the compile goes through
[23:20] <Kenrin> I do it all the time at work
[23:20] <Extreminador> but when it's booting sometimes appears ^[[C allot of times others the ubuntu image boot keeps blinking
[23:20] <Gin> Kenrin, great, then I got some hope getting this bay trail monster working. Thanks
[23:21] <Ben64> Guest61626: likely because you don't own the directory you're attempting to write to
[23:22] <Guest61626> is there a way i can temporarily own it like it's my own ~/ ?
[23:22] <Ben64> can you explain exactly what you're doing
[23:23] <Guest61626> my drive containing / died, and i want access to my home folder while i wait for my new SSD in the mail.
[23:23] <Kenrin> Gin: Wait this is for installation not after you install ?
[23:23] <Gin> Kenrin, this is for installation
[23:23] <Kenrin> That is a bit more work
[23:24] <Ben64> Guest61626: you should still be able to access your home directory if your uid is the same
[23:24] <Guest61626> how do I check this?
[23:24] <Kenrin> gin: see this link it'll explain faster than I can type it out: http://askubuntu.com/questions/94156/installing-with-a-different-kernel
[23:24] <Ben64> Guest61626: mount it, browse to your home directory
[23:24] <Gin> Kenrin, Thanks alot!
[23:25] <Ben64> Guest61626: wait the drive died? how are you accessing it
[23:25] <Guest61626> i have two drives
[23:25] <Guest61626> one was /home and only /home
[23:25] <Guest61626> the one containing /boot and / is dead, and i'm using a live system until my new drive gets here
[23:26]  * Guest61626 prays the uptime gods love me, i've reinstalled chrome three times this week
[23:27] <Gin> Guest61626, How come? I never had chrome crash on me
[23:28] <Guest61626> Gin, i'm using a live system
[23:28] <flymaster> algum brasileiro?
[23:28] <Gin> Guest61626, ah, no persistance? :P
[23:28] <Guest61626> nope.
[23:28] <nacc> !br | flymaster
[23:28] <flymaster> :P
[23:29] <Guest61626> i wondered if it'd be easy enough to just create a new user with a matching name and to remount the drive under /home ?
[23:30] <Ben64> Guest61626: you'd need the same uid, name doesn't matter
[23:31] <Guest61626> is there a way i can see what my uid should be?
[23:31] <Ben64> ls -ln /path/to/your/home
[23:32] <Guest61626>  it says 1000. isn't that root?
[23:32] <Ben64> 0 is root
[23:33] <Guest61626> oh.
[23:33] <Ben64> 1000 is normally the first human user on the system
[23:33] <Guest61626> okay.
[23:33] <Guest61626> so... how do i change my uid to 1000? is this safe?
[23:34] <Ben64> not sure you can on livecd... what is your uid now? "id" to check
[23:34] <Guest61626> 999
[23:34] <Ben64> heh
[23:34] <Guest61626> i don't get it.
[23:36] <Guest61626> what's funny?
[23:36] <Ben64> they set the live user to 999 instead of 1000
[23:37] <Guest61626> is that bad?
[23:37] <Ben64> you can either chown to 999 to get access, use persistence and add a user with uid 1000, or use persistence and add yourself to gid 1000
[23:37] <Ben64> or just use sudo when you want to access something
[23:38] <Kenrin> You can't chroot into the system ?
[23:38] <Guest61626> are there any drawbacks to chown 999?
[23:38] <Kenrin> Oh he only has a home folder
[23:38] <Kenrin> nvm
[23:39] <Guest61626> kenrin, the drive containing / is dead
[23:40] <Guest61626> will chown 999 + mount /dev/sdx /home + logout make make it my new ~/ ?
[23:42] <Guest61626> or should i adduser --uid 1000 --home /path/to/home ?
[23:43] <Perc1val> My wifi connects for 5 minutes then disconnects unless i restart my computer. Thing I found searching haven't helped. Can someone help? I'm on 14.04
[23:44] <Kenrin> Guest61626: either way should work but I'd probably just make a new user to keep it simple
[23:46] <Guest61626> Kenrin, is there anything i should do or avoid when making my new user?
[23:47] <Kenrin> Nah,  just set the uid to 1000
[23:48] <Kenrin> mount your /home/whatever
[23:48] <Kenrin> then don't reboot unless you want to do it over again
[23:48] <snfgf> error: cannot find shared library libevent.2.so.whatever
[23:48] <Guest61626> i know i can't reboot.
[23:48] <snfgf> I have libevent in /usr/local/lib
[23:48] <snfgf> and put a symlink in /usr/lib
[23:49] <Guest61626> trying to figure out how to get nvidia drivers to work without a reboot has been a hassle
[23:49] <Kenrin> 64-bit system snfgf ?
[23:49] <Kenrin>  /usr/lib64/
[23:49] <snfgf> Kenrin, thank you
[23:51] <snfgf> quit
[23:52] <snfgf> :@
[23:52] <alex_fidelis> hello
[23:52] <alex_fidelis> algum brasileiro
[23:53] <alex_fidelis> my niggaz
[23:53] <Kenrin> That was random...
[23:54] <Guest61626> yeah.
[23:56] <Guest61626> so if i wanted to load the proprietary nvidia driver without rebooting, is there anything special i need to do besides kill X, rmmod nouveau and modprobe nvidia then restart X?
[23:56] <Guest61626> the last time i tried this i got a blaze of flying text all over my ttys. where did i go wrong?
[23:58] <Kenrin> Not sure I always drop to shell and apt-get install nvidia-latest
[23:59] <Guest61626> will that work on a live system?