| flocculant | Unit193: I did - you were right :p | 06:25 |
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| Unit193 | A couple are translation only, whisker has small changes, weather uses a new version of the same API. | 06:27 |
| flocculant | k | 06:28 |
| flocculant | evening lurkers | 17:41 |
| pavlushka | evening flocculant ! | 17:42 |
| flocculant | hi pavlushka | 17:42 |
| flocculant | and hi cm2 | 17:42 |
| pavlushka | flocculant: had your evening tea? | 17:44 |
| flocculant | cm2: the 16.04.1 release will get whatever fixes for not-xubuntu and anything we can get in from xfce if there is anything | 17:44 |
| flocculant | but as far as intel wireless things landing - we're not able to really do anything there, personally I'd like to see that back of the disappearing cursor on lock/suspend with intel more :) | 17:45 |
| flocculant | but to be honest I'm not *completely* sure what .1 will have | 17:46 |
| flocculant | the first point release is more (afaik) about making sure there is a sane and working upgrade from previous LTS | 17:46 |
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| flocculant | knome: re "ACTION: knome to initialize voting on the council proposal on devel ML (week from now)" I assume that refers in truth to getting nominations? | 17:48 |
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| cm2 | flocculant: do you know what the wireless issue is about? bug in iwlwifi? | 17:48 |
| flocculant | cm2: not really - not actually seen it or heard of it | 17:49 |
| flocculant | and people in *here* use intel and wireless and not heard them shouting either | 17:49 |
| flocculant | like ochosi for instance | 17:49 |
| cm2 | flocculant: ok; but it's always after a suspend. | 17:49 |
| flocculant | yup | 17:49 |
| cm2 | flocculant: not in general. and restarting NM fixes it. | 17:50 |
| cm2 | so not the end of the world. | 17:50 |
| flocculant | I did point skjones at something | 17:50 |
| flocculant | right - that's what I found | 17:50 |
| cm2 | i was looking through the power manager code, and there is a wait for a network manager dbus call. | 17:50 |
| cm2 | because it doesn't happen when issuing a "systemctl suspend" | 17:51 |
| flocculant | given it's *buntu not just us - then that's definitely not something we'd be looking at specifically | 17:51 |
| cm2 | xfce4-power-manager | 17:51 |
| cm2 | flocculant: or do you mean you heard of the wireless thing from other *buntus? | 17:51 |
| flocculant | www.debugpoint.com/2016/05/quick-fix-no-wireless-connection-after-sleep-suspend-in-ubuntu-16-04-xenial-xerus/ and the bugs appear to be *buntu | 17:52 |
| flocculant | also not sure I saw that when checking out the cursor issue on my dead and dying lappy | 17:53 |
| cm2 | flocculant: speaking of which, the xna vs sna doesn't help me | 17:53 |
| cm2 | odd because it seems to work for everyone else | 17:53 |
| flocculant | cm2: ok - it was just something I saw while looking through 6 million reports (it felt like) | 17:54 |
| flocculant | I think that the vt change is the best one generally | 17:54 |
| cm2 | flocculant: :) so i won't tell you about my flickering lightdm | 17:54 |
| flocculant | and the sna issue seems to cause other problems too | 17:55 |
| flocculant | cm2: you can - I'll ask for the bug number :p | 17:55 |
| flocculant | and I'd love to see it tested with yak too | 17:55 |
| flocculant | just to check that | 17:55 |
| cm2 | flocculant: will do. | 17:55 |
| flocculant | awesome | 17:56 |
| cm2 | flocculant: long weekend here, so maybe i'll have some time | 17:56 |
| flocculant | :) | 17:56 |
| flocculant | same here | 17:56 |
| flocculant | cm2: you appear to be about a bit at the moment - I assume you know that our testing/qa team is always looking for people who're not just drive-by testers? | 18:01 |
| flocculant | (and I think I recognise from ubuntuforum - or might be coincidence of course) | 18:02 |
| cm2 | flocculant: yes i know. | 18:06 |
| cm2 | i'm a dev. thinking that maybe i should help with code? | 18:06 |
| flocculant | I'm sure that bluesabre and Unit193 would love to know that and have some help :) | 18:07 |
| flocculant | maybe send a mail to the dev list offering - they're not about till later in the *day* | 18:07 |
| flocculant | not sure what tz you are | 18:07 |
| cm2 | flocculant: ok; i've been putting this off for like 5 years it seems like ;) | 18:07 |
| cm2 | all the while enjoying my xubuntu experience | 18:08 |
| flocculant | and frankly more dev help trumps testing - unless you're not testing your code and/or fixes :p | 18:08 |
| flocculant | cm2: funnily enough I've been about more or less as long as you (gnome2/unity change) | 18:09 |
| cm2 | flocculant: :) | 18:09 |
| cm2 | although dont remind me. that was painful at first. | 18:09 |
| flocculant | yup | 18:09 |
| cm2 | xubuntu has come a long way!! | 18:09 |
| flocculant | it certainly has :) | 18:09 |
| cm2 | flocculant: btw, the thunar crashing thing, was it whilst renaming files? | 18:10 |
| flocculant | cm2: seems so - I can do that if I keep at it for a while | 18:10 |
| flocculant | but general re-naming I don't see it | 18:11 |
| cm2 | flocculant: i already saw a patch for it. | 18:11 |
| flocculant | knome was seeing it often | 18:11 |
| flocculant | cm2: we applied a couple/few patches - which is what we have in yak ppa afaik | 18:11 |
| cm2 | flocculant: ah ok. i'm looking at it now, g_file_monitor and friends. | 18:12 |
| flocculant | if that's the case ( bluesabre Unit193 ) ^^ then if we SRU it needs to be in yak? | 18:12 |
| cm2 | flocculant: it might be in it already | 18:13 |
| flocculant | cm2: seems that thunar activity in xfce is 'low' | 18:13 |
| cm2 | flocculant: yes, but mostly it's because it is stable. | 18:13 |
| flocculant | cm2: I think we do have those patches - but I got lost between what we found pre-release and now | 18:13 |
| flocculant | and it's harder still because I have to manically rename things to crash it | 18:14 |
| cm2 | flocculant: yeah, i've been trying to crash it but to no avail :) | 18:14 |
| flocculant | well that's good :) | 18:15 |
| cm2 | flocculant: he he he yes. | 18:15 |
| flocculant | ok - evening time - disappearing for a while - be back later | 18:15 |
| cm2 | flocculant: have fun | 18:16 |
| flocculant | well ... mostly food needed :p | 18:16 |
| cm2 | :) | 18:16 |
| bluesabre | evening all | 22:18 |
| knome | hello | 22:18 |
| flocculant | hi bluesabre | 22:19 |
| bluesabre | hey knome flocculant | 22:20 |
| bluesabre | how's it going? | 22:20 |
| knome | not too shabby | 22:20 |
| flocculant | as good as expected :) | 22:20 |
| bluesabre | better than I hoped :D | 22:20 |
| flocculant | ha ha | 22:21 |
| Unit193 | bluesabre! | 22:23 |
| bluesabre | hey Unit193 | 22:23 |
| bluesabre | I'll start catching up from all the pings this week soon | 22:24 |
| Unit193 | \o/ | 22:27 |
| Unit193 | I dumped off a packaging thing for you. :P | 22:27 |
| knome | Unit193 and the big dumb | 22:29 |
| knome | ...i mean dump | 22:29 |
| knome | (; | 22:29 |
| Unit193 | knome haates me again. :'( | 22:29 |
| knome | noooo | 22:29 |
| knome | me loves you | 22:29 |
| knome | :D | 22:29 |
| Unit193 | >_> | 22:29 |
| Unit193 | KEEP BACK! | 22:29 |
| knome | ahahah | 22:30 |
| flocculant | hah | 22:30 |
| bluesabre | yeah, saw that, decided to keep it on the backburner til I made it to the weekend :D | 22:30 |
| Unit193 | Ahaha. :D | 22:30 |
| Unit193 | bluesabre: I got the others up! Well, kind of ignored panel plugins because meh. Xfconf might be fixed though. | 22:30 |
| bluesabre | saw that too, good news from aliov | 22:30 |
| flocculant | that's all great - personally I'd love to know what's going to happen about intel lock cursor fail :p | 22:31 |
| Unit193 | Nothing I can do, and you certainly don't want me to try patching core things like that... | 22:32 |
| flocculant | Unit193: wfm | 22:33 |
| flocculant | or rather I've not got the problem so go for it :p | 22:33 |
| bluesabre | flocculant: I don't really know what to do with that, not touching the kernel, probably shouldn't change intel defaults for everybody | 22:33 |
| flocculant | Unit193: or are you talking about interesting stuff :D | 22:33 |
| flocculant | bluesabre: I agree with that :) | 22:33 |
| Unit193 | that == intel drivers. | 22:34 |
| Unit193 | bluesabre: I'm presuming http://paste.openstack.org/show/505960/ is of no importance. | 22:36 |
| Unit193 | flocculant: Want to test xfconf before I copy it into xubuntu-dev/xfce4-gtk3? :P | 22:39 |
| Unit193 | (I hit http://paste.openstack.org/show/505957/ too, but that's actually of no interest to us anyway.) | 22:39 |
| flocculant | Unit193: not right now ;) | 22:42 |
| bluesabre | Unit193: looks important | 22:58 |
| Unit193 | :3 | 22:59 |
| Unit193 | Well, gtk/gnome stuff/etc always output warnings all over, so wasn't a surprise and the desktop worked. :P | 23:00 |
| bluesabre | fair enough :) | 23:06 |
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