[06:25] Unit193: I did - you were right :p [06:27] A couple are translation only, whisker has small changes, weather uses a new version of the same API. [06:28] k [17:41] evening lurkers [17:42] evening flocculant ! [17:42] hi pavlushka [17:42] and hi cm2 [17:44] flocculant: had your evening tea? [17:44] cm2: the 16.04.1 release will get whatever fixes for not-xubuntu and anything we can get in from xfce if there is anything [17:45] but as far as intel wireless things landing - we're not able to really do anything there, personally I'd like to see that back of the disappearing cursor on lock/suspend with intel more :) [17:46] but to be honest I'm not *completely* sure what .1 will have [17:46] the first point release is more (afaik) about making sure there is a sane and working upgrade from previous LTS === pavlushka is now known as kryten === kryten is now known as Guest62041 [17:48] knome: re "ACTION: knome to initialize voting on the council proposal on devel ML (week from now)" I assume that refers in truth to getting nominations? === Guest62041 is now known as pavlushka [17:48] flocculant: do you know what the wireless issue is about? bug in iwlwifi? [17:49] cm2: not really - not actually seen it or heard of it [17:49] and people in *here* use intel and wireless and not heard them shouting either [17:49] like ochosi for instance [17:49] flocculant: ok; but it's always after a suspend. [17:49] yup [17:50] flocculant: not in general. and restarting NM fixes it. [17:50] so not the end of the world. [17:50] I did point skjones at something [17:50] right - that's what I found [17:50] i was looking through the power manager code, and there is a wait for a network manager dbus call. [17:51] because it doesn't happen when issuing a "systemctl suspend" [17:51] given it's *buntu not just us - then that's definitely not something we'd be looking at specifically [17:51] xfce4-power-manager [17:51] flocculant: or do you mean you heard of the wireless thing from other *buntus? [17:52] www.debugpoint.com/2016/05/quick-fix-no-wireless-connection-after-sleep-suspend-in-ubuntu-16-04-xenial-xerus/ and the bugs appear to be *buntu [17:53] also not sure I saw that when checking out the cursor issue on my dead and dying lappy [17:53] flocculant: speaking of which, the xna vs sna doesn't help me [17:53] odd because it seems to work for everyone else [17:54] cm2: ok - it was just something I saw while looking through 6 million reports (it felt like) [17:54] I think that the vt change is the best one generally [17:54] flocculant: :) so i won't tell you about my flickering lightdm [17:55] and the sna issue seems to cause other problems too [17:55] cm2: you can - I'll ask for the bug number :p [17:55] and I'd love to see it tested with yak too [17:55] just to check that [17:55] flocculant: will do. [17:56] awesome [17:56] flocculant: long weekend here, so maybe i'll have some time [17:56] :) [17:56] same here [18:01] cm2: you appear to be about a bit at the moment - I assume you know that our testing/qa team is always looking for people who're not just drive-by testers? [18:02] (and I think I recognise from ubuntuforum - or might be coincidence of course) [18:06] flocculant: yes i know. [18:06] i'm a dev. thinking that maybe i should help with code? [18:07] I'm sure that bluesabre and Unit193 would love to know that and have some help :) [18:07] maybe send a mail to the dev list offering - they're not about till later in the *day* [18:07] not sure what tz you are [18:07] flocculant: ok; i've been putting this off for like 5 years it seems like ;) [18:08] all the while enjoying my xubuntu experience [18:08] and frankly more dev help trumps testing - unless you're not testing your code and/or fixes :p [18:09] cm2: funnily enough I've been about more or less as long as you (gnome2/unity change) [18:09] flocculant: :) [18:09] although dont remind me. that was painful at first. [18:09] yup [18:09] xubuntu has come a long way!! [18:09] it certainly has :) [18:10] flocculant: btw, the thunar crashing thing, was it whilst renaming files? [18:10] cm2: seems so - I can do that if I keep at it for a while [18:11] but general re-naming I don't see it [18:11] flocculant: i already saw a patch for it. [18:11] knome was seeing it often [18:11] cm2: we applied a couple/few patches - which is what we have in yak ppa afaik [18:12] flocculant: ah ok. i'm looking at it now, g_file_monitor and friends. [18:12] if that's the case ( bluesabre Unit193 ) ^^ then if we SRU it needs to be in yak? [18:13] flocculant: it might be in it already [18:13] cm2: seems that thunar activity in xfce is 'low' [18:13] flocculant: yes, but mostly it's because it is stable. [18:13] cm2: I think we do have those patches - but I got lost between what we found pre-release and now [18:14] and it's harder still because I have to manically rename things to crash it [18:14] flocculant: yeah, i've been trying to crash it but to no avail :) [18:15] well that's good :) [18:15] flocculant: he he he yes. [18:15] ok - evening time - disappearing for a while - be back later [18:16] flocculant: have fun [18:16] well ... mostly food needed :p [18:16] :) [22:18] evening all [22:18] hello [22:19] hi bluesabre [22:20] hey knome flocculant [22:20] how's it going? [22:20] not too shabby [22:20] as good as expected :) [22:20] better than I hoped :D [22:21] ha ha [22:23] bluesabre! [22:23] hey Unit193 [22:24] I'll start catching up from all the pings this week soon [22:27] \o/ [22:27] I dumped off a packaging thing for you. :P [22:29] Unit193 and the big dumb [22:29] ...i mean dump [22:29] (; [22:29] knome haates me again. :'( [22:29] noooo [22:29] me loves you [22:29] :D [22:29] >_> [22:29] KEEP BACK! [22:30] ahahah [22:30] hah [22:30] yeah, saw that, decided to keep it on the backburner til I made it to the weekend :D [22:30] Ahaha. :D [22:30] bluesabre: I got the others up! Well, kind of ignored panel plugins because meh. Xfconf might be fixed though. [22:30] saw that too, good news from aliov [22:31] that's all great - personally I'd love to know what's going to happen about intel lock cursor fail :p [22:32] Nothing I can do, and you certainly don't want me to try patching core things like that... [22:33] Unit193: wfm [22:33] or rather I've not got the problem so go for it :p [22:33] flocculant: I don't really know what to do with that, not touching the kernel, probably shouldn't change intel defaults for everybody [22:33] Unit193: or are you talking about interesting stuff :D [22:33] bluesabre: I agree with that :) [22:34] that == intel drivers. [22:36] bluesabre: I'm presuming http://paste.openstack.org/show/505960/ is of no importance. [22:39] flocculant: Want to test xfconf before I copy it into xubuntu-dev/xfce4-gtk3? :P [22:39] (I hit http://paste.openstack.org/show/505957/ too, but that's actually of no interest to us anyway.) [22:42] Unit193: not right now ;) [22:58] Unit193: looks important [22:59] :3 [23:00] Well, gtk/gnome stuff/etc always output warnings all over, so wasn't a surprise and the desktop worked. :P [23:06] fair enough :)