[00:52] <Jbmorris289> Hello again
[00:52] <Jbmorris289> forgot that my client was connected yesterday
[01:02] <fastloris> Can you customize LXDE with Docky and GTK themes like you can XFCE?
[01:17] <Jbmorris289> Some questions with lubuntu, similar to fastloris's
[01:17] <Jbmorris289> one of them
[01:18] <Jbmorris289> Can you....customize lubuntu, the taskbars, to be like Ubuntu's
[01:18] <Unit193> fastloris: 'lxappearance' makes it easy to change GTK themes, yes.  Openbox is the Window manager, you change that theme separately.
[01:18] <Jbmorris289> ?
[01:19] <fastloris> Unit193: so I can make it a bit more modern with Numix and Docky etc?
[01:19] <Unit193> fastloris: Never used docky but don't see why not.  And of course you can change the gtk/icon themes.
[01:19] <fastloris> so the GTK themes that normall change the windows manager too won't work?
[01:19] <Jbmorris289> ...Taskbar on the bottom*
[01:19] <fastloris> or you just mean the setting is different than lxappearance
[01:20] <Unit193> fastloris: It's another module in lxappearance, but has to have Openbox theme support (Numix does, btw.)
[01:20] <fastloris> like in Xubuntu there is a separate tool to change windows manager but when you install a theme to usr/share/themes it still populates the windows manager tool
[01:20] <fastloris> ah ok thanks
[01:20] <Jbmorris289> one on bottom, one on top?
[01:21] <fastloris> So I am looking for lighter than Xubuntu...does Lubuntu offer much savings in overhead?
[01:21] <Jbmorris289> well scratch my correction
[01:21] <fastloris> if I just put LXDE on this Xubuntu install will it be the same or still quite heavier?
[01:21] <Unit193> LXDE/Lubuntu is a little more lightweight, sure.  All depends on what you use though.
[01:21] <Jbmorris289> fastloris, Lubuntu uses less resources than Xubuntu, yes
[01:21] <Unit193> !info lxpanel-plugin-topmenu
[01:22] <Jbmorris289> Unit193, nice bo
[01:22] <Jbmorris289> t
[01:22] <Jbmorris289> bot
[01:22] <Unit193> Not really sure if that does what you want, but maybe worth looking into, Jbmorris289.
[01:23] <Jbmorris289> Unit193, i hope i phrased my question well
[01:23] <Jbmorris289> DOesn't look like i did
[01:23] <Jbmorris289> and ok
[01:23] <Jbmorris289> Doesn't*
[01:23] <fastloris> thanks...is LXDE on Xubuntu as light as Lubuntu or close to it or does it just pile on more?
[01:25] <Jbmorris289> but, not and
[01:25] <ianorlin> LXD on xubuntu is pretty pointless
[01:25] <ianorlin> LXDE
[01:25] <Jbmorris289> One more question....... Do you know UNetbootin?
[01:26] <Jbmorris289> if so...
[01:26] <Jbmorris289> Would it work if
[01:27] <Jbmorris289> I used unetbootin to write the lubuntu ISO, boot from it in windows menu, and fresh install from there?
[01:27] <ianorlin> I don't use unetbootin
[01:27] <Jbmorris289> or do i use a usb
[01:27] <Jbmorris289> oh
[01:27] <Jbmorris289> :C
[01:27] <ianorlin> I mainly just use a usb
[01:27] <ianorlin> created with dd
[01:30] <Jbmorris289> whats dd?
[01:30] <Jbmorris289> sounds familiar
[01:31] <ianorlin> a really dangerous command if you put it on the wrong disk
[01:31] <ianorlin> !dd
[01:31] <Jbmorris289> hmmmmm
[01:31] <ianorlin> but would just put the iso file on the usb
[01:33] <Jbmorris289> ill probably use unetbootin... it also supports usb drives too
[01:33] <Jbmorris289> and what maks this dd command dangerous?
[01:33] <Jbmorris289> Formatting?
[01:33] <Jbmorris289> (when putting on the wrong disk)
[01:33] <Jbmorris289> it*
[01:33] <ianorlin> could overwrite all partitoins on thge disk
[01:33] <Jbmorris289> ah
[01:34] <Jbmorris289> I was thinking similar
[01:34] <Jbmorris289> Writing mbr code
[01:34] <Jbmorris289> thus
[01:34] <Jbmorris289> probably messing up your normal boot operations
[01:35] <ianorlin> yes
[01:35] <Jbmorris289> PenDriveLinux that could also be dangerous if you enable the 'Show All drives' option
[01:35] <ianorlin> I have a way of running lsblk before
[01:36] <ianorlin> so I know what drive I am nuking from orbit first
[01:38] <Jbmorris289> hm
[01:41] <Jbmorris289> another question
[01:41] <Jbmorris289> when was the first lubuntu version made
[01:41] <ianorlin> offical or unofical
[01:41] <ianorlin> First offical release was 11.10
[01:42] <Jbmorris289> 11.00
[01:42] <Jbmorris289> oops
[01:42] <Jbmorris289> 10
[01:42] <Jbmorris289> how about unofficial?
[01:43] <ianorlin> I don't know
[01:43] <Jbmorris289> hmm
[01:43] <Jbmorris289> well
[01:43] <Jbmorris289> ill look it up...
[01:44] <Jbmorris289> wikipedia
[01:44] <Jbmorris289> says
[01:44] <Jbmorris289> "The LXDE desktop was first made available for Ubuntu in October 2008, with the release of Ubuntu 8.10 Intrepid Ibex. These early versions of Lubuntu, including 8.10, 9.04 and 9.10, were not available as separate ISO image downloads, and could only be installed on Ubuntu as separate lubuntu-desktop packages from the Ubuntu repositories."
[01:45] <Jbmorris289> 8.10...
[01:46] <ianorlin> those were not an offical flavor
[01:46] <SonikkuAmerica> Long time again, 8.10 was
[01:46] <SonikkuAmerica> *ago
[01:46] <SonikkuAmerica> but yeah, 11.10 was the first official release, ISO and all
[01:47] <SonikkuAmerica> We're also one of 2 flavours to support a PowerPC image.
[01:48] <Jbmorris289> ah
[01:49] <Jbmorris289> Can't wait to install lubuntu
[01:49] <Jbmorris289> on this netbook...
[01:49] <Jbmorris289> To become secure
[01:49] <Jbmorris289> and a linux user
[01:49] <Jbmorris289> well more of
[01:50] <Jbmorris289> It currently has the unsupported Windows XP
[01:50] <Jbmorris289> which now has unpatched flaws
[01:50] <Jbmorris289> that maybe some hackers plan to exploit anytime
[01:52] <Jbmorris289> Anyone here know:
[01:52] <Jbmorris289> 'CompizConfig'
[01:52] <Jbmorris289> ??
[01:52] <Jbmorris289> does that work in lubuntu?
[01:53] <ianorlin> Jbmorris289, compiz is no where near lightweight I use the default openbox in lubuntu
[01:53] <ianorlin> it can but using compiz as the backend window manager in lubuntu would make it heavy
[01:54] <Jbmorris289> hm
[01:54] <Jbmorris289> wonder how much ram
[01:54] <Jbmorris289> compiz woouls take
[01:54] <Jbmorris289> ...
[01:54] <Jbmorris289> horrible typo.
[01:54] <Jbmorris289> Would*
[01:54] <SonikkuAmerica> I recommend at least 512 MB to get you by, 1 GB for smooth operation
[01:54] <Jbmorris289> well
[01:54] <Jbmorris289> this netbook has
[01:55] <SonikkuAmerica> !enter
[01:55] <Jbmorris289> 998 MB
[01:55] <SonikkuAmerica> !ENTER
[01:55] <Jbmorris289> pff
[01:55] <SonikkuAmerica> ...
[01:55] <SonikkuAmerica> Please don't use ENTER as punctuation
[01:55] <SonikkuAmerica> Maybe...
[01:55] <Jbmorris289> aka '0.99' GB (???)
[01:55] <SonikkuAmerica> !flood
[01:55] <SonikkuAmerica> Ah, nope
[01:55] <Jbmorris289> ok sorry
[01:55] <SonikkuAmerica> That'd be 1 GB
[01:56] <Jbmorris289> what windows xp gives apparently
[01:56] <Jbmorris289> https://gyazo.com/7ba62fbba741ffedcc6d6416b2792976
[01:56] <Jbmorris289> 0.99 GB
[02:00] <Jbmorris289> SonikkuAmerica, Even the windows 7 upgrade advisor told me that 0.99 GB is good enough????
[02:01] <Jbmorris289> Because it took it as 1 GB
[02:01] <Jbmorris289> but imo, I don't think that's good for smooth operation
[02:03] <SonikkuAmerica> Jbmorris289: Do you have a 32-bit machine?
[02:03] <Jbmorris289> yep
[11:26] <C_minus> My lubuntu live installer stick says "gfxboot.c32: not a COM32R image"
[18:24] <feneco> do I have to reload something after editing this file: ~/.config/openbox/lxde-rc.xml?
[18:24] <tsimonq2> feneco: you should log out and log back in again :)
[18:25] <feneco> thanks tsimonq2
[18:25] <feneco> :D
[18:26] <tsimonq2> no problem, let me know if you need anything else, feneco :)
[18:27] <krytarik> feneco: "openbox --reconfigure"
[18:27] <feneco> i'm really stupid
[18:27] <feneco> https://usercontent.irccloud-cdn.com/file/INEKm8e8/
[18:28] <feneco> and I looked for something like that hahaha
[18:28] <feneco> thanks krytarik
[18:28] <krytarik> Hah. :D
[18:28] <tsimonq2> krytarik: would my solution work too? just curious
[18:29] <tsimonq2> oic nvm
[18:30] <feneco> am I missing something in this hotkey setting? it doesn't work https://www.irccloud.com/pastebin/28XGm6do/
[18:40] <krytarik> feneco: Doesn't look like - for Alt + Shift + 3.
[18:42] <feneco> I will try to log off then log in again
[18:45] <krytarik> Make sure what config file is actually being used though.
[19:11] <feneco> krytarik: how can I do that?
[19:11] <tsimonq2> feneco: can you give me the output of: ls ~/.config/openbox/
[19:12] <feneco> tsimonq2 lubuntu-rc.xml  lubuntu-rc.xml.mod  lxde-rc.xml
[19:12] <tsimonq2> you should then change lubuntu-rc.xml instead of lxde-rc.xml
[19:13] <ianorlin> fenco there is also openbox --reconfigure that gets it to reread its config file
[19:15] <feneco> tsimonq2: that worked
[19:15] <feneco> ianorlin: yes, I was doing that
[19:15] <feneco> but shouldn't this hotkey work on lxde-rc.xml too?
[19:15] <tsimonq2> well here's the thing, when you log in, there'
[19:16] <tsimonq2> *there's two sessions
[19:16] <ianorlin> feneco, that works in the lxde session from your display manager
[19:16] <tsimonq2> LXDE and Lubuntu
[19:16] <tsimonq2> so separate sessions use separate files
[19:16] <feneco> and when should I use lxde-rc.xml then?
[19:18] <feneco> thanks by the way :)
[19:21] <tsimonq2> never, unless you use the LXDE session
[19:21] <feneco> got it
[19:21] <feneco> thanks :D
[19:23] <tsimonq2> no problem, met me know if you need anything else :)
[19:23] <tsimonq2> *let
[23:32] <jirido> Hi. When using flash in Firefox i get to know that the plugin is vunerable and is asked to install an update. When using an apturl with apturl i get to know that The channel 'vivid-partner' is not known. How can i make the channel vivid-partner known?
[23:34] <krytarik> !vivid | jirido
[23:35] <jirido> urk upgrades are always to risky and time consuming..
[23:36] <jirido> thanx