[06:30] <mcphail> altker128: there are concerns ext4 would confuse Windows users. And noone has decided a security model for the sdcard yet, to integrate with app confinement. I don't share the objections
[07:00] <altker128> mcphail: Which phone do you run Ubuntu Touch on?
[07:01] <mcphail> altker128: bq 4.5, although it is temporarily running android
[09:02] <moritz311> Hey guys
[09:58] <brunch875> I can use the adb tools in ubuntu to play with android devices, right?
[10:17] <s`> dekko is not downloading emails :\
[10:18] <s`> only at startup
[11:15] <brunch875> I just started up a hotspot in order to put two laptops in the same "lan"
[11:15] <brunch875> but apparently the laptops are isolated from each other
[11:15] <brunch875> Is there a way to configure this behaviour?
[13:53] <Acou_Bass> err, are al these news things im seeing right? is OTA-11 gonna have miracast??
[13:53] <Acou_Bass> if so thats epic, as the last time i asked about miracast support it was a 'ehh, we may have it in future' :D
[14:20] <moritz311> have someone little expirience building ubuntu touch
[14:56] <kaisoz> Hi there
[15:00] <moritz311> kaisoz: hi :)
[17:21] <joselix> Hi
[19:31] <zub> Hi. I tried to build a mir hello-world app with ubuntu sdk chroot. On my phone I have rc-proposed. The chroot I used was ubuntu-sdk-15.04. But in the chroot there's libmirclient.so.8 while on the phone I have libmirclient.so.9. What is the correct chroot to use with rc-proposed?
[20:17] <DPA> Hi. I have a Problem with my Meizu Pro 5 ubuntu edition. I added the line "/dev/mmcblk0p1  /mnt/sdcard/    ext4    defaults,auto,nofail,noatime,nodiratime,commit=60 0 0" to the file /lib/init/fstab, and now, it doesn't boot anymore. It shows only the meizu splash screen. How can I fix that?
[20:36] <founderio> DPA: you probably need to boot some kind of recovery image (not sure which one is on that device) that allows you to access that file & remove the line. Then check the logs why this happened
[20:52] <DPA> If I connect the device using USB to my PC, I see it as an MTP device but can't connect to it, and dmesg detects it as an ubuntu phone. If I press Volume UP and Power, i see a big Ubuntu logo, and nothing else hapens. If I press Volume Down and Power, it shows "PSN: 86132B05DA77 => Fastboot mode" in the bottom half of the screen, and dmesg shows that it was detected as an android device. "abd devices"
[20:52] <DPA> and "abd usb" won't find the device any case.
[20:56] <founderio> hmm.. I'll have to defer to the ubuntu cracks on here..
[20:56] <founderio> But if you're willing to try, you could flash a different recovery image like TWRP_3.0_m86. Not sure on the implications for the rest of your phone though -> I use it with the android version of the meizu pro 5
[20:57] <founderio> probably ogra _ or some of the other folks can help you with that
[20:58] <founderio> As he put it, the differences between the regular & ubuntu version of that phone *could* leave you without an IMEI if you try such things. I have not had such problems, but just a word of caution here
[21:00] <DPA> founderio: As I said, adb doesn't show the device, and isn't that required in order tho flash the device?
[21:00] <founderio> nope. flashing happens via fastboot
[21:01] <founderio> adb is then enabled by the recovery image when it booted
[21:08] <DPA> founderio: Many thanks, is there a tutorial or something on how to flash that recovery image on this phone? Or even better, is there a way to read and write to specific parts of the internal memory of the device using fastboot? In this case, i could just flash an empty line to the memory address of the line I added to the file in order to override my change.
[21:41] <altker128> DPA: This thread might be helpful : http://askubuntu.com/questions/767323/how-to-install-ubuntu-on-meizu-pro-5-that-was-originally-with-android
[21:41] <sebThreeM10white> hi
[21:42] <altker128> DPA: And also http://askubuntu.com/questions/775502/meizu-pro-5-ubuntu-phone-how-reinstall-the-device
[21:47] <sebThreeM10white> oh someone has a pro 5?
[21:48] <DPA> founderio: I looked at the commands available with fastboot, and since I didn't find a way to read from the internal flash memory, i just flashed the recovery image you mentioned. It worked and I was able to comment out the line I added to that file. Everithing works again, thank you very much.
[21:58] <altker128> DPA: Can you share your experiences with Touch on the M5?  Like responsiveness and speed, etc?
[22:08] <founderio> DPA: sorry, was AFK. glad it worked!
[22:09] <DPA> altker128: I wrote about all my experiences from when I bought it to now here: https://www.mikrocontroller.net/topic/396096#4594341 (it's in german, I know, i can translate it for you if you wish.)
[22:10] <founderio> altker128: Just my 2 cents here: I use touch on the android version of the pro 5. Flashing was a bit of a challenge, but went easier than expected. Responsiveness is great, speed also not that bad. The camera is a bit slow & app startup time could be better. but once the apps are loaded -> nothing to complain, speed wise
[22:11] <founderio> * camera app to be specific
[22:14] <DPA> founderio: On my phone, apps which are using webkit are lagging a little bit when I scroll. The webbrowser and webapps to be specific.
[22:18] <founderio> hm, I didn't notice that before.. maybe a bit, but nothing I can't bear. It's mostly the startup time which I notice (and occasional crashes & derps of course)
[22:19] <founderio> overall the pro 5 is a nice piece of hardware. just takes some time getting used to the screen size XD
[22:29] <crs___> i am missing a call-recorder-app. am i right, that it is impossible to create such an app in ut? (recorder has to be in background but will be suspended at that moment)
[22:46] <altker128> DPA: I think an English translation would be great
[22:46] <altker128> founderio: When you say app start-up time, do you mean every app or just Webkit apps?
[22:47] <founderio> Scopes (known?), Camera, Phone (legacy apps?)
[22:49] <altker128> Is scopes webapp or compiled Qt?
[22:51] <founderio> no idea
[22:51] <founderio> startup there is also not that big of a deal. usually only on reboot ;)
[22:51] <founderio> tbut the camera app really needs to be fast
[22:55] <DPA> altker128: Ok. But a translation will take me about a week, because I am very busy lately. How shall I notify you where it is when I am done?
[22:56] <altker128> DPA: I'll hang out in here, would you just /msg me ?
[22:58] <DPA> altker128: Ok. I have to leave now, It's already one o'clock in switzerland.
[22:58] <altker128> DPA: OK, thanks !