[00:41] <daftykins> new one on me
[00:41] <daftykins> https://www.dropbox.com/s/97pnqycygeyp9m9/paypal_issue.PNG?dl=0
[00:42] <m0nkey_> TAX DODGE!
[00:44] <penguin42> that must be a real pain
[00:45] <daftykins> it's not stopped me before from ebay items, this was ifixit europe
[00:45] <daftykins> changed from "UK Guernsey" to "UK", took the £2.50 VAT hit and now it's on its' way :P
[00:45] <daftykins> quite tired of being a second class citizen though
[00:46] <penguin42> haha so you just list it as UK but specify the right postcode?
[00:46] <m0nkey_> heh, i said it was a tax dodge :P
[00:46] <daftykins> indeed!
[00:46] <daftykins> and shunted a couple of fields back so i could put 'Guernsey' as my city
[00:47] <m0nkey_> anyone know of any decent open source monitoring tools that aren't nagios?
[00:49] <daftykins> 'fraid not
[00:51] <penguin42> m0nkey_: I've heard of but not tried opennms
[03:38] <daftykins> https://www.dropbox.com/s/xs5xgzsa8np9666/IMG_20160528_043131.jpg?dl=0
[03:39] <daftykins> an ex glass/digitiser XD
[09:14] <brobostigon> morning boys and girls.
[09:32]  * zmoylan-pi fires up 80s fact of the day dos app... 'ian fleming b.1908'
 “I’m running umbunto warty. how I upgrade 16.4?"
[11:56] <diddledan> that’s pretty much everything wrong with the internet morons
[11:58] <zmoylan-pi> yes, it's leenux ubunto warty... :-P
[12:46] <diddledan> I blow my nose in your general direction
[13:02]  * zmoylan-pi builds giant wooden rabbit and prepares trebuchet... 
[13:08] <diddledan> RUN AWAY!
[13:09] <diddledan> https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=9V7zbWNznbs
[13:10] <popey> downloaded all of england OSM, did a search for various tags, there appears to be only one place that is tagged yurts in the whole of the UK
[13:10] <penguin42> where?
[13:10] <popey> and one tagged winniedepooh 😖
[13:10] <popey> lets see
[13:11] <zmoylan-pi> whereas loads of places are tagged mine....
[13:11] <popey> hm, this isn't as easy as I thought  😃
[13:12] <popey> I want to extract a bunch of points of interest, like maybe some statues, post boxes and a few other things
[13:12] <popey> I'll settle for just statues for now
[13:13] <popey> so far I grabbed the gb pbf file from geofabrik, and converted with osmconvert to o5m format, then used osmfilter to extract stuff, but it generates many many GB xml files
[13:13] <popey> need to limit it a bit further, kills my laptop doing this, giant IO wait
[13:13] <zmoylan-pi> points of interest... post boxes... :-P
[13:13] <penguin42> those are GB files for GB?
[13:14] <popey> yes
[13:15] <popey> zmoylan-pi: yeah, not especially interested in those
[13:15] <popey> it's for a game
[13:15] <penguin42> this a scavenger hunt type of thing?
[13:15] <popey> bit like ingress. I want to find some points in the UK that people can go to and find/do something
[13:15] <popey> yeah
[13:15] <popey> but want to make the sourcing of the points of interest easy
[13:16] <popey> as people outside the UK may play, want to use some specific tags which might work everywhere, or is that perhaps optimistic :)
[13:16] <popey> http://taginfo.openstreetmap.org/search?q=tourism%3Dartwork and http://taginfo.openstreetmap.org/search?q=historic%3Dmemorial look good
[13:37] <popey> hmmm http://paste.ubuntu.com/16768306/
[15:02] <penguin42> I do like the waffle irons on the SpaceX rockets
[15:03] <zmoylan-pi> takes care of any passing seagulls
[15:27] <brobostigon> how do i tell apache which php version to use? if i have several php versions installed?
[16:01] <penguin42> hmm apparently the Beeb have commissioned a new series of HHGttG
[16:01] <penguin42> (radio based on 'And Another Thing'
[16:14] <zmoylan-pi> i'd prefer more cabin pressure at this point
[16:16] <zmoylan-pi> because they'd have to recast a lot of parts for the series and it would feel just a little off
[16:18] <penguin42> it's not impossible it would work; just slightly improbable
[16:19]  * zmoylan-pi plugs improbability drive into piece of fairy cake and a really strong cup of tea
[17:16] <diddledan> m0nkey_: there is icing, which is nagios-like in that it reuses nagios agents
[17:16] <diddledan> incinga**\
[17:17] <diddledan> icinga**
[17:17] <diddledan> damned interfering mac osx
[17:18] <m0nkey_> I found the motherload
[17:18] <m0nkey_> http://omdistro.org/start
[17:18] <m0nkey_> it includes icinga
[17:19] <m0nkey_> It has Nagios + plugins, NagVis, Icinga, pnp4nagios, rrdtool, check_mk, and ton of other stuff pre-installed and configured
[17:21] <penguin42> interesting
[17:23] <diddledan> why both nagios and icinga installed together? o_O
[17:23] <diddledan> seems redundant
[17:24] <m0nkey_> not sure, about to try it
[17:26] <m0nkey_> why doesn't anyone provide KVM qcow2 images for 'appliances'?
[17:36] <m0nkey_> how the heck do you say 'icinga' .. because ici.. french, here.. nga.. ummmm. wont go there
[17:36] <penguin42> I'm never sure if it's eye-king-ah or icing-ah
[18:50] <foobarry> i use adagios
[18:50] <foobarry> nagios but the bad bits fixed
[20:34] <Switches> Evening ubunuts!
[21:38] <sebThreeM10white> hi
[22:18] <penguin42> sebThreeM10white: Curiously long nick you have there
[22:18] <sebThreeM10white> penguin42: yeah, but you know who I am, and what my knick means right :)?
[22:20] <penguin42> sebThreeM10white: Well, I suspect I know who you are, but the rest of the name, hmmm - I'm not sure what the M10 is - I mean Daystrom only went upto m5
[22:22] <Switches> sebsebseb: Got a White BQ M10 then :p
[22:22] <zmoylan-pi> tis the ubuntu phone
[22:23] <penguin42> 10 is the tablet?
[22:23] <Switches> yeah
[22:24] <sebThreeM10white> Switches: yep bingo and the white is the HD, not the black one that most of the fan boys got
[22:24] <sebThreeM10white> that's F HD
[22:24] <sebThreeM10white> I may get one of those at a much later date as well
[22:24] <sebThreeM10white> but that's really low on my things I may want to buy that are tech list :d
[22:24] <sebThreeM10white> since I hav this one :)
[22:24] <penguin42> sebThreeM10white: So, how are you liking it?
[22:25] <Switches> 720p screen rather than the 1080p? or is a 900p?
[22:25] <sebThreeM10white> PaulW2U: well using it instead of lap top right now with blue tooth keyboards:d
[22:25] <sebThreeM10white> uh for penguin42
[22:25] <penguin42> nod
[22:25] <sebThreeM10white> switches something like that, but I bought htis at a time when I was short enough on money for 40 pounds or so difference to actsually be quite a lot
[22:26] <sebThreeM10white> switches plus I like having the one thats the like rejected one h e h eh or mostly rjected, well if you read the things I did on omgubuntu etc I mean he heh
[22:26] <Switches> Well tbh mate I don't see the point in all the Full HD screens in tabs and phones... but thats just me
[22:26] <sebThreeM10white> at least osmeone else has the white one though, since there was a review he did that went on there
[22:27] <sebThreeM10white> switches whys that?
[22:27]  * sebThreeM10white prefers the colour white now for tech as well, black is so uhmm standard common and boring
[22:27] <sebThreeM10white> as for the camera yes the other one has a bit of a better one but genreally the one I ghot here should be fine enough.  altough the app crashed the other day when I was trying to  take a more detailed photo with it hmm
[22:28] <penguin42> Switches: I dunno, full HD is reasonable; the quad-hd is getting a bit silly; the size of a pixel for a full-hd tablet at arms length is similar to a full HD TV at TV distance
[22:28] <Switches> Well you can't really stream Full HD over most the "cheaper" versions Wireless connections, mine only streams 720p with a 900p screen. but then I'm just a cheap bastard
[22:28] <sebThreeM10white> switches its pretty much the same hardware excpet for a few little differences
[22:29]  * sebThreeM10white thinks that yes for basic such as IRC email play8ing msuic etc, sure can replace a lap top nicely with these Ubuntu devices really, but can also do  more than just basics with them,  espeically once got xmir set up to do so :d
[22:29] <Switches> I can understand that some need the higher resolutions with things like Miracast becoming more of a thing (and Convergence stuff). But I mean just for walking around
[22:30] <sebThreeM10white> switches yeah or your popey and anyting with a less res is now seen as bad
[22:30] <sebThreeM10white> a low res
[22:30] <Switches> :p
[22:31] <sebThreeM10white> sebThreeM10white: penguin I think the xmir feature is going to be more interesting than convergence :d
[22:31] <sebThreeM10white> for penguin42 switches
[22:31] <penguin42> sebThreeM10white: What do you mean by switches?
[22:31] <sebThreeM10white> that's his nick
[22:32] <penguin42> oh
[22:32] <sebThreeM10white> the tablet has a demo of some of the desktop linux apps on it by default
[22:32] <sebThreeM10white> firefox, gedit, the gimp and xchat gnome
[22:32] <sebThreeM10white> and libre office
[22:32] <penguin42> right, all that stuff should just work
[22:32] <penguin42> and it's got 2GB of RAM so it should be useful (even if it's just A53 cores)
[22:32] <sebThreeM10white> however there's a way to hack that so it can run lots of other things, vlc and yep yep yep lots of stuff,,but it's getting offical support worked on now well i MEAN IN A  more suprted way]
[22:33] <sebThreeM10white> I think the next over the air up date has the like start of that being more supported etc more properly, no need for the hack
[22:33] <sebThreeM10white> want other stuff ok
[22:33] <Switches> Well Xmir isn't really a "future" thinking thing though, it's more a "keep old stuff going for now" thing. I don't find it that interesting, I do understand the need for it though
[22:33]  * penguin42 doubts X is going to disappear quickly
[22:33] <sebThreeM10white> switches well yes it's to make the old desktop linux stuff work, but it's still interesting :)
[22:33] <sebThreeM10white> certain stuff wont' work with it, but it should be able to run most things in the future :)
[22:33] <Switches> What's got me interested at the mo is Mir having Vulkan support
[22:34] <penguin42> oh yeh I must look at Vulkan
[22:34] <sebThreeM10white> Vulkan sounds familur, what's that?
[22:34] <Switches> Vulkan is going to change a lot of thinking
[22:34] <Switches> Replacement for OpenGL
[22:34] <Switches> Used to be called AMD Mantle
[22:34] <sebThreeM10white> oh right yeah that
[22:34] <sebThreeM10white> I think read about that before
[22:34] <sebThreeM10white> or possibly
[22:35] <sebThreeM10white> switches I see that as an advantage being able to run well thousands of Desktop Linux programs on the Ubuntu devices :)
[22:35] <sebThreeM10white> and well enough for most of them to I guess, well in the future, xmir is still experimental etc now it seems
[22:35] <Switches> Yeah it's a "low level" graphics API, exposes a lot more hardware resources and allows a lot better resource management
[22:36] <sebThreeM10white> well I havrn't reid the hack thing,  was meaning to.  but I know can get vlc and inkscape and lots of things working like that
[22:36] <sebThreeM10white> but libertine is goingg to have like more proper support in the GUI etc in Ubuntu touch  for that kind of thing so
[22:37] <Switches> yeah libertine sounds interesting
[22:37] <sebThreeM10white> sebThreeM10white: yeah thats for xmir what it uses etc
[22:37] <sebThreeM10white> uh for switches
[22:38]  * sebThreeM10white probably doesnt really need to try and highlight now anyway switches is around and probably penguin42 as well
[22:38] <Switches> sebThreeM10white: Yeah it looks to have a lot of advantages
[22:39] <sebThreeM10white> Switches: penguin42 I should have probably said  how great the chrome book was the other day,  to my older brother, even if not quite what I thought, since now since his WIndows computer got slow, hes bought a cheap net book with WIndows 10 instead hmm
[22:39] <Switches> lol
[22:39] <sebThreeM10white> a chromebook would have at least been lLinux hmm
[22:39] <Switches> Chromebooks are pretty amazing tbf
[22:40] <sebThreeM10white> switches yeah he's been using a lapt op with WIndows 7 for quite a few years now
[22:40] <penguin42> there are a few that are actually good spec now as well; but still most are pretty poor
[22:40] <sebThreeM10white> I said  something about the OS  being to basic,  probably shoudn't have said that in a way
[22:40] <sebThreeM10white> it is basic though by default
[22:40] <Switches> penguin42: I really like the "pixel" specs
[22:42] <penguin42> Switches: Yeh, HPe were talking about a nice spec one as well
[22:42] <Switches> Yeah saw some posts about that and seems Asus got a new one soon aswell
[22:42] <sebThreeM10white> switches penguin chromebooks are meant to be quite nice with a proper Linux distro on.  however he might have been hmm to be me putting one on so uh
[22:43] <Switches> lol
[22:43] <sebThreeM10white> switches penguin42 apparnatly they out sold macs as well going by an article from like last week
[22:43] <sebThreeM10white> that first time they out sold macs
[22:43] <Switches> Yeah
[22:43] <sebThreeM10white> but thats not so suprisng since macs are expensive
[22:43] <penguin42> sebThreeM10white: Mostly to schools I think
[22:43] <sebThreeM10white> and apple has most of its sales as a result from the iphone and ipad
[22:44] <penguin42> still, it's good they're putting decent spec displays in them - having less than full-HD is IMHO just cheapskating it
[22:44] <sebThreeM10white> for the chomre book you mean?
[22:44] <Switches> Well when you look at the panel technology now, yeah it is
[22:44] <penguin42> yeh
[22:44] <sebThreeM10white> did bq cheap sake it then to
[22:44] <penguin42> sebThreeM10white: Yeh
[22:44] <sebThreeM10white> or just thought lets have both versions sold at same time
[22:44] <sebThreeM10white> for the tablet instad of what they did with the phone
[22:45] <penguin42> sebThreeM10white: Sorry, I have no sympathy in going below fullHD - ask why they didn't go above fullHD for the high spec version
[22:45] <sebThreeM10white> came out with the low end bq awuara 4.5 first, then like three months later came out with a bf e5 hd as well ( I hope I can still buy one of those hmm, but not yet (
[22:45] <Switches> Anything badged as "high spec" should be Full HD atleast
[22:45] <penguin42> Apple get a lot of sales for just glorious displays they have
[22:45] <sebThreeM10white> penguin42 you can go above full hd ?  even bigger better resolution ?
[22:46] <penguin42> sebThreeM10white: Why not?
[22:46] <sebThreeM10white> switches pengui42  m10  white so hd,  and m10 black so fhd, are both sold at nearly the same price,  its about 40 pounds price difference thats all
[22:46] <sebThreeM10white> both devices cost over 200 pounds
[22:47] <penguin42> sebThreeM10white: My phone is 1440x2560 pixels (5.5") - which admittedly is ludicrous (I won it - I probably wouldn't have bought that spec) - but less than full-HD is just silly, and you can easily go more
[22:48] <Switches> yeah theres a few QHD displays now, My argument about the Full HD was more aimed at things like phones and small tablets, once you get to around 10"+ viewable Full HD should be standard
[22:48] <penguin42> sebThreeM10white: The Chromebook pixel-c is 2560x1800 on 10.2"
[22:48] <sebThreeM10white> well thist mostly rejected by the fan boys etc Ubnuntu fan boys and so on, is still a nice device, but yes hd
[22:49]  * sebThreeM10white wonders what kind of difference if any really would notice between  the HD and FHD
[22:49] <sebThreeM10white> when it comes to resolution
[22:49] <sebThreeM10white> the screen
[22:50] <sebThreeM10white> also appantatly yes bq generally come out with lower quality hardware,  compared to say Meizu :)
[22:50] <sebThreeM10white> if  wanting something more high end thats Ubuntu,  yep Meizu is the way to go for now
[22:50] <Switches> It's not much pixel density is better the higher you go, but on small screens imo it doesn't pay, especially when you look at the money difference
[22:51] <sebThreeM10white> switches its not really worth it at times the hgher price you mean for stuff like that?
[22:51] <sebThreeM10white> with tablets?
[22:51] <daftykins> i see mr.chatty has an annoying name to match now
[22:51] <Switches> But then I hardly ever use my phone for anything but calls and texts, my tablet is basically an "ebook reader" lol
[22:51] <sebThreeM10white> daftykins ha ha you love me really :d :p <3
[22:52] <daftykins> ;)
[22:52] <sebThreeM10white> switches indeed ebook readers hmm,  I saw there was something on indiegogo being crowd funded,  but I thought like eh,  I got tablets anyway, so why have that
[22:53] <penguin42> Switches: I use gmaps/osm on my phone, browse the web/news read on it, even ssh/read my mail
[22:53] <sebThreeM10white> mreant to havr been a bigger screened e book reade than the usaul size though
[22:54] <Switches> Unless you have money to burn or you use the tablet a lot, it's not worth it for me. I can get a tablet for like £90 that does what I need (maybe less than that if there's a deal on). So paying like £200+ for something just for a Full HD is a waste for my use
[22:54] <sebThreeM10white> switches I see your point, but it's good to have at least one Ubuntu touch device trust me :)
[22:54] <sebThreeM10white> and a few options now
[22:54] <sebThreeM10white> for which one to buy :d
[22:54] <Switches> lol
[22:55] <sebThreeM10white> or did bq really stop selling the 4.5  and ef hd hmm if so that's stupid]
[22:55] <Switches> Well once I can get one from EE I will :p
[22:55] <penguin42> Switches: why buy it from EE though?
[22:55] <sebThreeM10white> well for the ef hd its stupid.  there are stil people otu there wanting  to buy one of  those or at some stage, that's uhmm me, and I think even popey
[22:55] <sebThreeM10white> e5 hd hasnt even been sold for a year by them and apparnatly no longer sold hmm
[22:56] <Switches> I get it with money off cause of my account, that's the only reason :p
[22:56] <sebThreeM10white> I guess they want people buying m10's now, but  a tablt is not a phone, would be better if they had a ubuntu phone and a tablet on the market
[22:56] <penguin42> Switches: Oh right, yeh I did that when I got my first smart phone; the ZTE Blade (aka Orange San francisco)
[22:56] <sebThreeM10white> switches EE/Orange suck I think,  I was so glad to switch away,   had a not good contract for the money from ORange
[22:56] <Switches> Well I gotta say I like the look of the M5
[22:57] <sebThreeM10white> I pay about half of what I did with EE for a better deal with Giffgaff :d
[22:57]  * penguin42 is on a stupidly good ee/orange/t-mobile PAYG deal
[22:57] <sebThreeM10white> switches the m5? do you mean the Meizu Pro 5?
[22:57] <Switches> oops yeah the Pro 5
[22:58] <sebThreeM10white> ok whats your number so I can phone you penguin42  :d  ok that will be ok,  I need daftykins though since he'll get annoyed at me I guess if I do that :d
[22:58] <Switches> The one Alan been showing off on G+
[22:58] <Switches> Also the one Alan dropped on Youtube xD
[22:58] <sebThreeM10white> switches that might have issues with some convergence thing the miracast or whatever it was, but otherwise that will be an awesome device, I have the MX 4 and been using that as my phone for months now
[22:58] <sebThreeM10white> switches the pro 5 is the upgrade
[22:59] <Switches> Well popey showed it off connecting to the TV no problems over a MS dongle
[22:59] <Switches> That's what impressed me with it :p
[22:59] <Switches> And the performance looks like its right on point
[23:02] <sebThreeM10white> switches ok so buy one :) ?/
[23:04] <sebThreeM10white> switches I want to buy a pro 5 eventually, but its reasonably low down on my tech devices I want to buy list, since I have the MX 4,  but since the Mx 4 is good quality I know the pro 5 shoul d be as well
[23:05] <sebThreeM10white> switches I got to give my address for two intersting crowd funded things, and then should get them next month :d   and something else is already on the verge of coming to me crowd funded
[23:08] <Switches> Nice one seb!
[23:09] <Switches> I will buy an Pro 5 once I finish what I have planned for my PC, can't spend way to much :p
[23:09] <sebThreeM10white> Switches: was a disapointment the LUG meeting earlier, since you didnt turn up h e h :d
[23:09] <Switches> lol
[23:10] <sebThreeM10white> switches you should come next month seriously :)  espeically if you want to see some interesting crowd funded stuff, I think I'll have the things I got in mind by then :)
[23:10] <Switches> Well we will see.
[23:11] <sebThreeM10white> Switches: most people didnt turn up earlier,  but that happens at timnes, only some turn up  genreally
[23:11] <sebThreeM10white> switches about 10 people at most which is ashame really,  yars ago before I Went it had  more
[23:12] <sebThreeM10white> maybe the guy earlier had a point, are people still using LInux or just not that interestd anymore  h e h
[23:12] <Switches> Well over time peoples lives change they can't always make the time
[23:12] <sebThreeM10white> switches indeed
[23:12] <sebThreeM10white> thingshappen other things to do
[23:12] <sebThreeM10white> people move away as well etc
[23:13] <Switches> Well I think it's more people just don't have time to attend meetings and the likes, plus everything nowadays seems to be on the net lol
[23:13] <sebThreeM10white> switches you mentione some stuff a bit, but as long as you can walk around the streets of Bristol a bit,  then sure why not come to the LUG :) ?
[23:13] <Switches> Maybe we should just get a monthly Mumble server lol
[23:13] <sebThreeM10white> switches its at a pub, but to get there you'll have to be on the streets a bit I guess he heh
[23:14] <Switches> Well once I can walk around the streets of bristol I will turn up :p
[23:14] <sebThreeM10white> switches podcasting can be fun,  unless got annoying people in the background when wanting to podcast,  which is quite likely in my case since where I live currently and who with etc
[23:14] <Switches> Well i was thinking more just somewhere to sit and chat with a few cans, not a podcast as such :p
[23:15] <sebThreeM10white> switches maybe but meeting in perosn is still better
[23:15] <sebThreeM10white> switches have a pint some food etc
[23:15] <Switches> Yeah I know
[23:15] <sebThreeM10white> switches altough I dont think the food is pariatuarly good at that pub, but then I Go eat some where else usaully after before going home :d
[23:16] <Switches> lol
[23:16] <sebThreeM10white> switches tried a newish place  for my second time earlier,  hadnt been there for months, and oh that ice creame was great :)
[23:16] <sebThreeM10white> the food was alright to that had
[23:16] <penguin42> ooh ice cream
[23:16] <Switches> Well that's good
[23:16] <sebThreeM10white> switches when I went first time I was disapointed with the menu seemed lacking of stuff etc, but maybe they impved it a bit or something
[23:17] <sebThreeM10white> penguin42 switches yeah  but not just any ice creame and only veggie or vegan ice creame,  actsaully that whole place its a veggie and vegan  only food place
[23:17] <sebThreeM10white> one of Bristols four or so places like that
[23:17] <sebThreeM10white> near  the bus st aiton to which is quite nice :)
[23:18] <penguin42> sebThreeM10white: Hey well as long as it's chocolate ice cream....
[23:18] <sebThreeM10white> penguin42  yeah chocolate brownie I semed to get, in well ice creame they had made them selves that tasted great :)
[23:18] <sebThreeM10white> and actsually a resoanble amount to
[23:18] <sebThreeM10white> for what had paid as well unlike certian places
[23:19] <penguin42> yeh well, I mean there's no point in having a little bit of ice cream
[23:19] <sebThreeM10white> yeah there's like a indian place around here, well her own indian food etc, I remember having ice cremae there
[23:19] <sebThreeM10white> but the portion of her own made ice cremae was well not much at all
[23:19] <sebThreeM10white> about a scoop and that was it uh
[23:20] <sebThreeM10white> switches yes weather spoons pubs are quite   sucky genreally for food it seems
[23:20] <sebThreeM10white> switches lug meets up in one so
[23:21] <sebThreeM10white> penguin42 indeed if buying any ice creame,  you want a good amount, I agree with that :)
[23:33] <daftykins> this is fun proof why not to ever touch Apple gear, strong language in this video though - some info is a bit out of date too https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=NVAmnV65_zw
[23:52] <penguin42> daftykins: TBF I don't think any vendor releases test suites
[23:55] <daftykins> not so much that as the 'replace motherboard' at authorised sites angle
[23:55] <penguin42> daftykins: I don't know; most places are pretty dumb about it
[23:58] <penguin42> daftykins: Most repair places don't do component level repair - they just swap boards/modules
[23:58] <sebThreeM10white> I wonder if there is a bug or something maybe with Ubuntu touch
[23:58] <sebThreeM10white> where it likes putting the volume back on some kind of default set one or whatever it is that is loud
[23:58] <sebThreeM10white> when got  a new song on, or that youtube video
[23:58] <penguin42> sebThreeM10white: Does it only do that if it detects it would be really embarrassing - like if in a library?
[23:59] <sebThreeM10white> or it does taht sometimes, started doing that to me just now