| valorie | cleaned, auto-cleaned, still no plasma | 00:00 |
|---|---|---|
| acheron_uk | no sddm? | 00:00 |
| valorie | no, never gets to boot | 00:01 |
| acheron_uk | oh. not even startx works | 00:01 |
| valorie | at least I have all the ttys | 00:01 |
| valorie | but that's it | 00:02 |
| darin | OK, which one of these is proposed: https://launchpad.net/~kubuntu-ppa | 00:02 |
| acheron_uk | proposed as in the main archive | 00:03 |
| * valorie is clueless in black diamond | 00:03 | |
| valorie | I'll just leave it running until someone has a suggestion | 00:05 |
| DarinMiller | Uncle: I've enabled every PPA that I know to enable. which PPA is the "main" archive? | 00:27 |
| valorie | DarinMiller: it isn't a PPA | 00:35 |
| valorie | it's a repo | 00:35 |
| valorie | https://wiki.ubuntu.com/Testing/EnableProposed | 00:36 |
| valorie | just like the PPAs though, it is advised to add, update, and then remove again, once you have the package you want | 00:37 |
| valorie | unless you live on the edge like I guess we are..... | 00:37 |
| DarinMiller | Ohkhhh, gotcha. | 00:38 |
| acheron_uk | urgh.. that is a lot of stuff on stable failing to build | 08:25 |
| BluesKaj | Howdy folks | 09:22 |
| acheron_uk | so in YY why would the akonadiserver binary be in the libkf5akonadiserver-dev package? | 09:43 |
| acheron_uk | from https://git.launchpad.net/~kubuntu-packagers/kubuntu-packaging/+git/akonadi/commit/debian/libkf5akonadiserver-dev.install?h=kubuntu_yakkety_archive&id=ede3eac8a94692c67af782b04e06236f4505d43f | 09:44 |
| allee | acheron_uk: if it's the case it's bug in the *.install file(s) | 09:45 |
| acheron_uk | seems that way to me, but as I'm new(ish) to this I have to pose the question | 09:47 |
| allee | acheron_uk: both akonadi*server should be in akonadi-server pkg like in xenial | 09:53 |
| allee | sgclark: ^^ | 09:53 |
| allee | acheron_uk: or have you commit access? | 09:54 |
| acheron_uk | allee: no I don't. still learning here | 10:05 |
| * clivejo wonders how that happened | 10:06 | |
| clivejo | someone remind me to look at that later! | 10:20 |
| clivejo | acheron_uk: if you have time and want to, you could post a git diff of the changes to fix that paclage | 10:45 |
| clivejo | or anyone for that matter! | 10:45 |
| acheron_uk | doubtful I will get to it today | 11:05 |
| * jimarvan waves | 11:13 | |
| allee | clivejo: I'll give akonadi a try. Which branch kubuntu_unstable? | 11:13 |
| allee | clivejo: what are the prefered git diff options and where should I upload it? | 11:34 |
| allee | git diff -> https://owncloud-test.mpe.mpg.de/~test/6.0/index.php/s/Donawop5FXhx3dk | 11:39 |
| * acheron_uk looks at that and thinks simpler than he thought | 12:16 | |
| allee | :-) | 12:29 |
| allee | acheron_uk: in retrospect I think I should have checked the changelog if there is a mention of the earlier move and get rid of it | 12:32 |
| acheron_uk | allee: not sure there isn't also other files in the wrong package there | 12:36 |
| allee | acheron_uk: I've not checked but the last commits in unstable didn't show up more problems like that | 12:37 |
| acheron_uk | fair enough. | 12:38 |
| acheron_uk | that prob just stood out as clivejo was wanting people to try to replicate a bug in korganizer with his YY staging PIM, and it complained akonadi wouldn't start | 12:40 |
| acheron_uk | then went looking for the binary and found that oddity | 12:40 |
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| allee | acheron_uk: you're right. At least akonadictl is in wrong pkg too. Currently in -dev-bin | 14:19 |
| allee | akonadi_agent_launcher was in akonadi-server in XX too | 14:23 |
| * clivejo cant work out why Scarlett would have moved those files | 16:28 | |
| clivejo | there must have been a reason | 16:28 |
| allee | clivejo: I assume it was a merge error | 17:20 |
| clivejo | cant see how though | 17:20 |
| allee | first commit after debian merge removed usr/bin from akonadi-server | 17:21 |
| allee | maybe she wanted to move some binaries from akonadi-server to anohter pkg, but moving the server itself is no good idea. Try: ps -ef | grep akonadi[-_] some pkgs like akonadi_agent_control are always started | 17:23 |
| clivejo | allee: do you want to fix it and send me the diff? | 17:24 |
| allee | But you are right, it maybe better to ask sgclark what her intention was | 17:24 |
| clivejo | I notice maxy has done some work on it in Debian - http://anonscm.debian.org/cgit/pkg-kde/applications/akonadi.git/ | 17:24 |
| clivejo | might be worth pulling that in | 17:24 |
| allee | clivejo: in the commit she also removed 3 bin pkgs. So I'm also not sure what's all to revert | 17:25 |
| clivejo | allee: I know, Ive been trying to understand it | 17:25 |
| clivejo | but cant | 17:25 |
| allee | Uh, 6 hours ago. I was sitting at the same desk at this time :-( | 17:26 |
| IrcsomeBot | <ahoneybun> Well I bit the bullet | 17:26 |
| clivejo | but my gut feeling is just to follow Debian lead | 17:26 |
| IrcsomeBot | <ahoneybun> I hope the installer does not crash lol | 17:26 |
| clivejo | the current packages arent going to work properly | 17:27 |
| clivejo | shouldnt have to install a dev package in a run-time environment | 17:27 |
| clivejo | @ahoneybun what you installing? | 17:28 |
| IrcsomeBot | <ahoneybun> Kubuntu on my desktop | 17:28 |
| clivejo | what version? | 17:29 |
| IrcsomeBot | <ahoneybun> 16.04? | 17:29 |
| IrcsomeBot | <ahoneybun> Of course | 17:29 |
| clivejo | chicken :P | 17:29 |
| IrcsomeBot | <ahoneybun> Whatever | 17:29 |
| IrcsomeBot | <ahoneybun> Lop | 17:29 |
| IrcsomeBot | <ahoneybun> I finally got tired of the time it took windows to boot | 17:30 |
| clivejo | *clivejo is running Yakkey Yak with extra Yak* | 17:30 |
| IrcsomeBot | <ahoneybun> Backuped all my stufff | 17:30 |
| IrcsomeBot | <ahoneybun> Just need to get my keyboard to work | 17:30 |
| IrcsomeBot | <ahoneybun> I found something that might work | 17:30 |
| clivejo | is that your gaming bax? | 17:30 |
| IrcsomeBot | <ahoneybun> Yea | 17:31 |
| clivejo | box | 17:31 |
| IrcsomeBot | <ahoneybun> Let's see how Tomb Raider runs in this lol | 17:31 |
| clivejo | oh I thought Linux framerate wasnt good enough for you? | 17:31 |
| IrcsomeBot | <ahoneybun> Its pretty old CPU though | 17:31 |
| IrcsomeBot | <ahoneybun> Most likely not | 17:31 |
| IrcsomeBot | <ahoneybun> But I'm playing less and less | 17:31 |
| clivejo | convert it to a packaging box :) | 17:32 |
| IrcsomeBot | <ahoneybun> Might get some games for the Xbox 360 that I want to play | 17:32 |
| IrcsomeBot | <ahoneybun> No ssd | 17:32 |
| IrcsomeBot | <ahoneybun> It would be slow | 17:32 |
| clivejo | help us get KCI on and running again | 17:32 |
| clivejo | up and | 17:32 |
| IrcsomeBot | <ahoneybun> That's beyond me | 17:32 |
| clivejo | its beyond me too, but I still keep trying! | 17:33 |
| IrcsomeBot | <ahoneybun> Mm | 17:35 |
| IrcsomeBot | <ahoneybun> Let's get my PGP key moved first lol | 17:35 |
| clivejo | LOL | 17:36 |
| IrcsomeBot | <ahoneybun> My machine is not booting | 17:36 |
| clivejo | we still havent managed to get a key created in Dojo! | 17:36 |
| acheron_uk | ahoneybun: 16.04 is nice with the backports | 17:37 |
| IrcsomeBot | <ahoneybun> We'll fix that | 17:37 |
| IrcsomeBot | <ahoneybun> I know acheron | 17:37 |
| IrcsomeBot | <ahoneybun> Run it on my laptop | 17:37 |
| IrcsomeBot | <ahoneybun> The heck | 17:38 |
| acheron_uk | clivejo: I looked at the previous packaging party and that cra**ed out at the key generation stage as well | 17:39 |
| clivejo | indeed | 17:39 |
| IrcsomeBot | <ahoneybun> I'm getting a blinking underscore | 17:39 |
| clivejo | its a time consuming process | 17:39 |
| IrcsomeBot | <ahoneybun> (Photo, 960x1280) https://irc-attachments.kde.org/y5HItpG8/file_91.jpg | 17:39 |
| clivejo | it wants you to type something | 17:39 |
| IrcsomeBot | <ahoneybun> But its not booting | 17:40 |
| acheron_uk | I think just don't expect people to generate a key in a live tutorial | 17:40 |
| clivejo | Try 4, 8, 15, 16, 23 and 42 | 17:40 |
| acheron_uk | !info haveged | 17:41 |
| ubottu | haveged (source: haveged): Linux entropy source using the HAVEGE algorithm. In component universe, is extra. Version 1.9.1-3 (yakkety), package size 27 kB, installed size 71 kB (Only available for linux-any) | 17:41 |
| IrcsomeBot | <ahoneybun> Try to be a bit more serious Clifford | 17:41 |
| acheron_uk | can use haveged to speed up key generation for demo purposes | 17:42 |
| IrcsomeBot | <Clifford> *puts on serious face* | 17:42 |
| IrcsomeBot | <ahoneybun> Lol | 17:42 |
| IrcsomeBot | <ahoneybun> I did everything that I normally do | 17:43 |
| IrcsomeBot | <ahoneybun> Efi partition, mark that as the boot | 17:43 |
| IrcsomeBot | <ahoneybun> Boot install | 17:43 |
| clivejo | I think if we just pre-baked that kind of stuff and had it ready to go | 17:43 |
| acheron_uk | no login manger | 17:44 |
| acheron_uk | ^ ? | 17:44 |
| clivejo | and Rick can pull it out of his hat and say, heres one I made earlier | 17:44 |
| clivejo | isnt it lovely | 17:44 |
| clivejo | and we can all nod and agree on its lovelyness | 17:44 |
| acheron_uk | I really hate sddm, 2 laptops I've had to give up on that and install lightdm | 17:45 |
| allee | acheron_uk: no sddm problem with with Dell and Apple laptops. What's your problem? | 18:02 |
| IrcsomeBot | <ahoneybun> second time worked | 18:17 |
| IrcsomeBot | <ahoneybun> mm modprode not found | 18:20 |
| ahoneybun | alright back on Kubuntu | 18:46 |
| ahoneybun | with a working Razer Keyboard | 18:47 |
| ahoneybun | ovidiuflorin: we never put it on the site that 5.6.4 was out on 16.04 | 18:50 |
| acheron_uk | ahoneybun: that is great | 18:51 |
| ahoneybun | http://pez2001.github.io/razer_chroma_drivers/ | 18:51 |
| ahoneybun | only thing missing is setting macros | 18:51 |
| ahoneybun | it lets you enable them but no GUI to set them | 18:52 |
| IrcsomeBot | <ahoneybun> Mm my machine froze | 18:55 |
| ahoneybun | valorie: do you have access to the site? | 19:10 |
| ahoneybun | mm Steam does not launch | 19:27 |
| soee_ | o/ | 19:29 |
| ahoneybun | ? | 19:30 |
| ahoneybun | I do need to install the newer drivers | 19:30 |
| DarinMiller | o/ | 19:30 |
| ahoneybun | what is with the hands up? | 19:30 |
| ahoneybun | what's | 19:30 |
| DarinMiller | <wave> | 19:30 |
| ahoneybun | soee_: do you have access to the site? | 19:31 |
| IrcsomeBot | <ahoneybun> Keep freezing | 19:32 |
| IrcsomeBot | <ahoneybun> Must be the disk | 19:32 |
| soee_ | ahoneybun: nope, yofel, ovidiuflorin or valorie probably have | 19:34 |
| ahoneybun | yea but no one is here right now | 19:35 |
| soee_ | some urgent situation | 19:35 |
| soee_ | ? | 19:35 |
| ahoneybun | not really | 19:35 |
| ahoneybun | but we have no news on the site about 5.6.4 | 19:35 |
| ahoneybun | though one together from the G+ post | 19:35 |
| ahoneybun | at least | 19:35 |
| soee_ | yeah i asked Philip to add some | 19:48 |
| ahoneybun | mm reboot got it to work | 19:49 |
| * clivejo hi fives ahoneybun | 19:55 | |
| ahoneybun | spectacle is in here now | 19:55 |
| ahoneybun | for some reason | 19:55 |
| clivejo | what you mean, for some reason | 19:55 |
| clivejo | thats the replacement for ksnapshot | 19:55 |
| ahoneybun | it's not on my laptop yet | 19:55 |
| ahoneybun | I thought something was broken so it was not used yet | 19:56 |
| clivejo | might have to install it manually | 19:56 |
| ahoneybun | I did not | 19:56 |
| clivejo | we had some issues with it installing | 19:56 |
| ahoneybun | I think the PPA got it in | 19:56 |
| IrcsomeBot | <ahoneybun> Mm I'm having more problems here then with Win | 19:58 |
| ahoneybun | I think my drive is dieing | 20:00 |
| clivejo | install SMART tools | 20:02 |
| clivejo | do a check | 20:02 |
| ahoneybun | smartmontools? | 20:03 |
| ahoneybun | says PASSED | 20:06 |
| clivejo | have you had kubuntu on this hardware before? | 20:06 |
| ahoneybun | yea | 20:07 |
| ahoneybun | it just freezes like the harddrive is getting used too much | 20:07 |
| ahoneybun | it's done it 2 times so far | 20:07 |
| ahoneybun | seems to be when using YouTube | 20:07 |
| ahoneybun | maybe using too many tabs and windows | 20:07 |
| ahoneybun | also Konsole is not saving my settings | 20:08 |
| clivejo | does ksysguard show any memory leaks or CP usage? | 20:09 |
| clivejo | allee: did you look into merging akonadi with debian ? | 20:09 |
| jimarvan | ;) | 20:49 |
| ahoneybun | hey jimarvan | 20:49 |
| jimarvan | ahoneybun: hey! :D | 20:50 |
| ahoneybun | sup | 20:50 |
| jimarvan | just chilling listening to c64 covers hehe. you? | 20:51 |
| ahoneybun | clivejo: my CPU usage is high but nothing 100% | 20:51 |
| clivejo | whats using it? | 20:51 |
| ahoneybun | listening to Google Play Music jimarvan | 20:51 |
| ahoneybun | stuff? | 20:51 |
| jimarvan | swedish metal at its finest: https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=kb2fJQlSkCc | 20:51 |
| ahoneybun | looks like a lot of Chrome | 20:51 |
| jimarvan | last ninja 2 cover :D | 20:51 |
| ahoneybun | mm clivejo so it would be helpful for me to setup a machine with a key made already? | 20:55 |
| ahoneybun | I can do that a few days before | 20:55 |
| allee | clivejo: no. Busy with other things. | 20:56 |
| clivejo | yeah, i think we should determine the course of the lesson and do a trial run before hand | 20:56 |
| ahoneybun | alright cool, can you give me a list of packages needed to build? | 20:57 |
| ahoneybun | or a link somewhere | 20:57 |
| clivejo | for what? | 20:57 |
| ahoneybun | I'll have everythiung installed and ready to go | 20:57 |
| jimarvan | setting up for next dojo? | 21:01 |
| clivejo | I think we need a communal box to do stuff on | 21:02 |
| ahoneybun | yea jimarvan | 21:02 |
| ahoneybun | community? | 21:03 |
| clivejo | every one can at least watch the commands/output etc | 21:03 |
| clivejo | yeah, like Jon had | 21:03 |
| jimarvan | hmm | 21:03 |
| clivejo | on AWS | 21:03 |
| ahoneybun | not byobu you mean | 21:03 |
| ahoneybun | it's all the same | 21:03 |
| ahoneybun | he used byobu so everyone could log in | 21:03 |
| ahoneybun | we could record setting up the keys | 21:03 |
| valorie | what's going on? | 21:04 |
| ahoneybun | have everyone watch and you explain | 21:04 |
| valorie | friend dropped over to visit | 21:04 |
| ahoneybun | valorie: I have a article on the site about 5.6.4 release and need a review before posting | 21:04 |
| clivejo | yeah, and feed the screen into BBB too | 21:04 |
| ahoneybun | BBB does not handle that well I think | 21:04 |
| valorie | ok, I'll review and publish | 21:04 |
| ahoneybun | really bad FPS | 21:05 |
| ahoneybun | thanks valorie | 21:05 |
| ahoneybun | it's very minimal atm valorie | 21:05 |
| ahoneybun | just something to have out really | 21:05 |
| ahoneybun | clivejo: I think Hangouts handles video playback better | 21:05 |
| ahoneybun | I tried it in BBB with the game review | 21:06 |
| clivejo | hangouts cant support numerious people | 21:07 |
| ahoneybun | it does | 21:07 |
| valorie | published | 21:07 |
| jimarvan | those suggestions on google plus that people mentioned? | 21:07 |
| ahoneybun | jimarvan: the other platforms you mean? | 21:07 |
| jimarvan | ye | 21:07 |
| ahoneybun | holy hell | 21:08 |
| ahoneybun | 6gbs of RAM used? | 21:08 |
| jimarvan | let me guess. chrome tabs? | 21:08 |
| ahoneybun | mm system monitor says different | 21:08 |
| ahoneybun | anyway | 21:09 |
| ahoneybun | jimarvan: people have very strong options on platforms to use | 21:10 |
| ahoneybun | BBB has been pretty great for us so far | 21:10 |
| jimarvan | agree | 21:10 |
| jimarvan | although that flush-plugin requirement its a minor annoyance hehe | 21:11 |
| jimarvan | but so far worked good | 21:11 |
| ahoneybun | flash is minor to me as well | 21:12 |
| * clivejo isnt fussed on Hangout as he doesnt trust Google! | 21:20 | |
| * ahoneybun loves Google | 21:20 | |
| clivejo | but then you love Windows | 21:26 |
| clivejo | so your vote doesnt count :P | 21:27 |
| ahoneybun | mm never said I loved that crap | 21:27 |
| ahoneybun | just dealt with it | 21:27 |
| valorie | I respect and fear google | 21:27 |
| valorie | no hate, no love | 21:28 |
| jimarvan | gn peeps! | 22:01 |
| ahoneybun | night jim | 22:02 |
| blaze | soee: are you around? | 22:25 |
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