[00:00] cleaned, auto-cleaned, still no plasma [00:00] no sddm? [00:01] no, never gets to boot [00:01] oh. not even startx works [00:01] at least I have all the ttys [00:02] but that's it [00:02] OK, which one of these is proposed: https://launchpad.net/~kubuntu-ppa [00:03] proposed as in the main archive [00:03] * valorie is clueless in black diamond [00:05] I'll just leave it running until someone has a suggestion [00:27] Uncle: I've enabled every PPA that I know to enable. which PPA is the "main" archive? [00:35] DarinMiller: it isn't a PPA [00:35] it's a repo [00:36] https://wiki.ubuntu.com/Testing/EnableProposed [00:37] just like the PPAs though, it is advised to add, update, and then remove again, once you have the package you want [00:37] unless you live on the edge like I guess we are..... [00:38] Ohkhhh, gotcha. [08:25] urgh.. that is a lot of stuff on stable failing to build [09:22] Howdy folks [09:43] so in YY why would the akonadiserver binary be in the libkf5akonadiserver-dev package? [09:44] from https://git.launchpad.net/~kubuntu-packagers/kubuntu-packaging/+git/akonadi/commit/debian/libkf5akonadiserver-dev.install?h=kubuntu_yakkety_archive&id=ede3eac8a94692c67af782b04e06236f4505d43f [09:45] acheron_uk: if it's the case it's bug in the *.install file(s) [09:47] seems that way to me, but as I'm new(ish) to this I have to pose the question [09:53] acheron_uk: both akonadi*server should be in akonadi-server pkg like in xenial [09:53] sgclark: ^^ [09:54] acheron_uk: or have you commit access? [10:05] allee: no I don't. still learning here [10:06] * clivejo wonders how that happened [10:20] someone remind me to look at that later! [10:45] acheron_uk: if you have time and want to, you could post a git diff of the changes to fix that paclage [10:45] or anyone for that matter! [11:05] doubtful I will get to it today [11:13] * jimarvan waves [11:13] clivejo: I'll give akonadi a try. Which branch kubuntu_unstable? [11:34] clivejo: what are the prefered git diff options and where should I upload it? [11:39] git diff -> https://owncloud-test.mpe.mpg.de/~test/6.0/index.php/s/Donawop5FXhx3dk [12:16] * acheron_uk looks at that and thinks simpler than he thought [12:29] :-) [12:32] acheron_uk: in retrospect I think I should have checked the changelog if there is a mention of the earlier move and get rid of it [12:36] allee: not sure there isn't also other files in the wrong package there [12:37] acheron_uk: I've not checked but the last commits in unstable didn't show up more problems like that [12:38] fair enough. [12:40] that prob just stood out as clivejo was wanting people to try to replicate a bug in korganizer with his YY staging PIM, and it complained akonadi wouldn't start [12:40] then went looking for the binary and found that oddity === Guest25828 is now known as adrian [14:19] acheron_uk: you're right. At least akonadictl is in wrong pkg too. Currently in -dev-bin [14:23] akonadi_agent_launcher was in akonadi-server in XX too [16:28] * clivejo cant work out why Scarlett would have moved those files [16:28] there must have been a reason [17:20] clivejo: I assume it was a merge error [17:20] cant see how though [17:21] first commit after debian merge removed usr/bin from akonadi-server [17:23] maybe she wanted to move some binaries from akonadi-server to anohter pkg, but moving the server itself is no good idea. Try: ps -ef | grep akonadi[-_] some pkgs like akonadi_agent_control are always started [17:24] allee: do you want to fix it and send me the diff? [17:24] But you are right, it maybe better to ask sgclark what her intention was [17:24] I notice maxy has done some work on it in Debian - http://anonscm.debian.org/cgit/pkg-kde/applications/akonadi.git/ [17:24] might be worth pulling that in [17:25] clivejo: in the commit she also removed 3 bin pkgs. So I'm also not sure what's all to revert [17:25] allee: I know, Ive been trying to understand it [17:25] but cant [17:26] Uh, 6 hours ago. I was sitting at the same desk at this time :-( [17:26] Well I bit the bullet [17:26] but my gut feeling is just to follow Debian lead [17:26] I hope the installer does not crash lol [17:27] the current packages arent going to work properly [17:27] shouldnt have to install a dev package in a run-time environment [17:28] @ahoneybun what you installing? [17:28] Kubuntu on my desktop [17:29] what version? [17:29] 16.04? [17:29] Of course [17:29] chicken :P [17:29] Whatever [17:29] Lop [17:30] I finally got tired of the time it took windows to boot [17:30] *clivejo is running Yakkey Yak with extra Yak* [17:30] Backuped all my stufff [17:30] Just need to get my keyboard to work [17:30] I found something that might work [17:30] is that your gaming bax? [17:31] Yea [17:31] box [17:31] Let's see how Tomb Raider runs in this lol [17:31] oh I thought Linux framerate wasnt good enough for you? [17:31] Its pretty old CPU though [17:31] Most likely not [17:31] But I'm playing less and less [17:32] convert it to a packaging box :) [17:32] Might get some games for the Xbox 360 that I want to play [17:32] No ssd [17:32] It would be slow [17:32] help us get KCI on and running again [17:32] up and [17:32] That's beyond me [17:33] its beyond me too, but I still keep trying! [17:35] Mm [17:35] Let's get my PGP key moved first lol [17:36] LOL [17:36] My machine is not booting [17:36] we still havent managed to get a key created in Dojo! [17:37] ahoneybun: 16.04 is nice with the backports [17:37] We'll fix that [17:37] I know acheron [17:37] Run it on my laptop [17:38] The heck [17:39] clivejo: I looked at the previous packaging party and that cra**ed out at the key generation stage as well [17:39] indeed [17:39] I'm getting a blinking underscore [17:39] its a time consuming process [17:39] (Photo, 960x1280) https://irc-attachments.kde.org/y5HItpG8/file_91.jpg [17:39] it wants you to type something [17:40] But its not booting [17:40] I think just don't expect people to generate a key in a live tutorial [17:40] Try 4, 8, 15, 16, 23 and 42 [17:41] !info haveged [17:41] haveged (source: haveged): Linux entropy source using the HAVEGE algorithm. In component universe, is extra. Version 1.9.1-3 (yakkety), package size 27 kB, installed size 71 kB (Only available for linux-any) [17:41] Try to be a bit more serious Clifford [17:42] can use haveged to speed up key generation for demo purposes [17:42] *puts on serious face* [17:42] Lol [17:43] I did everything that I normally do [17:43] Efi partition, mark that as the boot [17:43] Boot install [17:43] I think if we just pre-baked that kind of stuff and had it ready to go [17:44] no login manger [17:44] ^ ? [17:44] and Rick can pull it out of his hat and say, heres one I made earlier [17:44] isnt it lovely [17:44] and we can all nod and agree on its lovelyness [17:45] I really hate sddm, 2 laptops I've had to give up on that and install lightdm [18:02] acheron_uk: no sddm problem with with Dell and Apple laptops. What's your problem? [18:17] second time worked [18:20] mm modprode not found [18:46] alright back on Kubuntu [18:47] with a working Razer Keyboard [18:50] ovidiuflorin: we never put it on the site that 5.6.4 was out on 16.04 [18:51] ahoneybun: that is great [18:51] http://pez2001.github.io/razer_chroma_drivers/ [18:51] only thing missing is setting macros [18:52] it lets you enable them but no GUI to set them [18:55] Mm my machine froze [19:10] valorie: do you have access to the site? [19:27] mm Steam does not launch [19:29] o/ [19:30] ? [19:30] I do need to install the newer drivers [19:30] o/ [19:30] what is with the hands up? [19:30] what's [19:30] [19:31] soee_: do you have access to the site? [19:32] Keep freezing [19:32] Must be the disk [19:34] ahoneybun: nope, yofel, ovidiuflorin or valorie probably have [19:35] yea but no one is here right now [19:35] some urgent situation [19:35] ? [19:35] not really [19:35] but we have no news on the site about 5.6.4 [19:35] though one together from the G+ post [19:35] at least [19:48] yeah i asked Philip to add some [19:49] mm reboot got it to work [19:55] * clivejo hi fives ahoneybun [19:55] spectacle is in here now [19:55] for some reason [19:55] what you mean, for some reason [19:55] thats the replacement for ksnapshot [19:55] it's not on my laptop yet [19:56] I thought something was broken so it was not used yet [19:56] might have to install it manually [19:56] I did not [19:56] we had some issues with it installing [19:56] I think the PPA got it in [19:58] Mm I'm having more problems here then with Win [20:00] I think my drive is dieing [20:02] install SMART tools [20:02] do a check [20:03] smartmontools? [20:06] says PASSED [20:06] have you had kubuntu on this hardware before? [20:07] yea [20:07] it just freezes like the harddrive is getting used too much [20:07] it's done it 2 times so far [20:07] seems to be when using YouTube [20:07] maybe using too many tabs and windows [20:08] also Konsole is not saving my settings [20:09] does ksysguard show any memory leaks or CP usage? [20:09] allee: did you look into merging akonadi with debian ? [20:49] ;) [20:49] hey jimarvan [20:50] ahoneybun: hey! :D [20:50] sup [20:51] just chilling listening to c64 covers hehe. you? [20:51] clivejo: my CPU usage is high but nothing 100% [20:51] whats using it? [20:51] listening to Google Play Music jimarvan [20:51] stuff? [20:51] swedish metal at its finest: https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=kb2fJQlSkCc [20:51] looks like a lot of Chrome [20:51] last ninja 2 cover :D [20:55] mm clivejo so it would be helpful for me to setup a machine with a key made already? [20:55] I can do that a few days before [20:56] clivejo: no. Busy with other things. [20:56] yeah, i think we should determine the course of the lesson and do a trial run before hand [20:57] alright cool, can you give me a list of packages needed to build? [20:57] or a link somewhere [20:57] for what? [20:57] I'll have everythiung installed and ready to go [21:01] setting up for next dojo? [21:02] I think we need a communal box to do stuff on [21:02] yea jimarvan [21:03] community? [21:03] every one can at least watch the commands/output etc [21:03] yeah, like Jon had [21:03] hmm [21:03] on AWS [21:03] not byobu you mean [21:03] it's all the same [21:03] he used byobu so everyone could log in [21:03] we could record setting up the keys [21:04] what's going on? [21:04] have everyone watch and you explain [21:04] friend dropped over to visit [21:04] valorie: I have a article on the site about 5.6.4 release and need a review before posting [21:04] yeah, and feed the screen into BBB too [21:04] BBB does not handle that well I think [21:04] ok, I'll review and publish [21:05] really bad FPS [21:05] thanks valorie [21:05] it's very minimal atm valorie [21:05] just something to have out really [21:05] clivejo: I think Hangouts handles video playback better [21:06] I tried it in BBB with the game review [21:07] hangouts cant support numerious people [21:07] it does [21:07] published [21:07] those suggestions on google plus that people mentioned? [21:07] jimarvan: the other platforms you mean? [21:07] ye [21:08] holy hell [21:08] 6gbs of RAM used? [21:08] let me guess. chrome tabs? [21:08] mm system monitor says different [21:09] anyway [21:10] jimarvan: people have very strong options on platforms to use [21:10] BBB has been pretty great for us so far [21:10] agree [21:11] although that flush-plugin requirement its a minor annoyance hehe [21:11] but so far worked good [21:12] flash is minor to me as well [21:20] * clivejo isnt fussed on Hangout as he doesnt trust Google! [21:20] * ahoneybun loves Google [21:26] but then you love Windows [21:27] so your vote doesnt count :P [21:27] mm never said I loved that crap [21:27] just dealt with it [21:27] I respect and fear google [21:28] no hate, no love [22:01] gn peeps! [22:02] night jim [22:25] soee: are you around?