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Lostfoundhey guyz00:30
Lostfoundim runing kubuntu 15.x is it safe to upgrade to 16.4 through software upgrades?00:31
user|12806Can anyone tell me what 'Run Chat' is?00:34
Lostfounda little more specific?00:36
c31f4d0rgood evening! I'm trying to record my screen using ( DESKTOP RECORDER ) RecordtNow only that the program only records the notebook microphone audio and not the audio of the site you want . already tried all settings ... can someone give me a hint ?00:37
user|12806I was looking for an irc client in my newly installed Kubuntu 16.10 as it was included in a previous version, instead, when I typed chat in the search box, I was only given 'Run Chat', when I clicked that, nothing happened. I'd like to know what it is.00:41
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Lostfoundprobably some irc client00:51
Lostfoundbut strange that nothing happened00:52
valorieuser|12806: konversation should be provided by default00:54
valoriebut I've never seen "run chat"00:54
valoriec31f4d0r: that isn't kde or kubuntu software -- perhaps ask in #ubuntu00:54
valoriethere are more people there00:54
c31f4d0rthanks valorie00:55
valorie user|12806 huh, I see that run chat too00:55
valorieirc is irc though00:55
c31f4d0rI'm giving up...00:55
user|12806I did find 'Konversation' eventually, but this 'Run Chat' worried me...00:55
DragnslcrLooks like "chat" is some command line utility00:56
valorie when I type irc in krunner, "applications" listed konversation00:56
DragnslcrSo that's why you get "Run chat"00:56
valorieright, there may be some old x command, run chat00:56
valorieI doubt it will do anything00:56
valorietype it in a konsole and see!00:57
user|12806I'd better not. This is my 3rd installation this week. I had enough of 'broken' Kubuntu's00:59
user|12806Anyone knows how an old Kubuntu 14.10 (my personal favorite) can be downloaded and where and why is it not available any more?01:00
dax14.10 hasn't had security updates since 2015. Using it is a rather terrible idea.01:01
user|12806Well, at least that was stable.01:04
user|12806What's my best option then?01:04
user|12806...if we talk about stability01:04
valorie16.04 is an LTS, and very stable01:06
valoriewhat problems have you had with it?01:06
valorieespecially with backports it is smooth as silk01:06
N3X15Is there a known issue with mouse pointer being wildly offset on the Kubuntu-CI build?01:08
N3X15Just want to make sure I'm not going crazy01:09
IrcsomeBot<Clifford> *jaw drops*01:09
user|memodownload in USB key01:09
user|12806valorie no, really, I haven't had problems with 16 for now, if we discount a couple of bugs. but this is the third one I'm installing after 15.10 was corrupt, 14.04 started giving me error messages on every click after only one day I've been using it01:13
user|12806valorie I must say, I've never seen a more stable one than the good old 14.10 I've been using last year01:14
mparilloI agree 14.10 was great, but the closest thing now is 14.04 which is getting a bit long in the tooth.01:15
IrcsomeBot<Clifford> N3X15 what kubuntu ci build?01:21
N3X15Uh, not sure01:27
N3X15I'm hooked up to the PPA01:27
N3X15It's been screwy for several days, at least01:27
darinvalorie or anyone: YY akonadi is not running, but when I attempt to start is as mentioned here https://userbase.kde.org/Akonadi#Controlling_the_Akonadi_server, message says it is not installed. apt intall says it already is.01:49
darinapt install^01:49
valoriefor me akonadi, kmail etc was removed during the upgrade from the 3 PPAs01:54
valoriehowever, since plasma isn't started, I'll probably just shut it down from a tty01:55
valorieuntil there is something new to try01:55
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user|confusedso im trying to do a guided install of 16.04 (manual keeps failing), and my swap is being assigned as 93gb. what in the world?02:17
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alexoWhat's the worst thing that can happen by running an unsupported version of Kubuntu like 14.10?03:07
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valoriealexo: you will get no security updates03:10
valorieimo if you want to stay an older release, stick to LTS03:10
valorie14.04, or 16.04 -- granted, the leap is huge between03:11
valorieeven 12.04 is still supported with security updates03:11
Guest51562how can i check if something is built into my kernel?03:12
valoriesomething?03:13
Guest51562specifically, vfio-pci03:14
valoriehmm, you could ask in #ubuntu-kernel03:14
Guest51562okay, checking there03:14
valoriethe kernel is not Kubuntu's remit03:14
Guest51562??03:15
valorieGuest51562: what I mean is that the kernel team does the kernel, while we do KDE packages03:17
valorienobody in our team is also on the kernel team03:17
Guest51562Oh, okay03:17
D-rexanyone know how to fix the kde connect dolphin error "Invalid object path: /modules/kdeconnect/devices/35.14.206.23/sftp"? I get this error while trying to view files on my phone05:12
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valorieD-rex: make sure you have the same version of kdeconnect on your phone as you do on your computer05:33
D-rexvalorie: how do I update my desktop kde connect on 16.04... its version 0.8 phone is version 0.905:45
D-rexi ran apt-get update but it's not detecting the new version or the repo isnt updating version05:47
D-rexnm there the same version was looking at wrong packge05:49
D-rexthey're05:49
benveciao05:57
valorie!info kdeconnect06:15
ubottukdeconnect (source: kdeconnect): connect smartphones to your KDE Plasma Workspace. In component universe, is optional. Version 0.8-0ubuntu5 (xenial), package size 50 kB, installed size 202 kB06:15
valoriehmmm06:15
valorieI think it's in a PPA06:15
valoriedarn, he stopped maintaining that06:17
valorieI also have 0.8, and I'm on 16.10 already06:18
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stephanHello all. I have kubuntu 16.04 and when i log into KDE i have suspend to ram after 30 minutes. Is there a possibility that sddm can have the same suspend to ram time without logging into kde first?07:32
valorieI rarely or never logout07:39
stephanThe PC in question is for guests and also sometimes started with wake-on-lan. So the PC is sometimes started to sddm without logging in to kde and then sometimes running for days. I would like that suspend to ram also works from sddm without logging in kde first.07:43
valorieI dunno07:48
valorieSDDM isn't KDE software, unfortunately07:48
valoriewe're in a tough place because KDM is not supported anymore, and lightdm doesn't fit our requirements07:50
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KenshiwaraHello! The drag and drop feature is not working in Chrome when using Dolphin under Kubuntu 16.04. There is also a question on AskUbuntu about that without any answers: https://askubuntu.com/questions/718161/cant-drag-files-from-dolphin-to-chrome - Can anyone help? thanks08:05
BluesKajHowdy folks09:22
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abhigenie92the driver manager in kubuntu 16.04 is not working and I wanted to check if I have installed the correct driver10:53
abhigenie92Drivers info: http://paste.ubuntu.com/16799837/10:53
BluesKajabhigenie92, driver manager is buggy , forget it for now10:53
abhigenie92BluesKaj, please check my paste10:55
BluesKajyeah abhigenie92 I did, looks like the 367 driver should be installed10:56
abhigenie92BluesKaj, oh thanks! Should I uninstall the current one and install that one then,10:56
abhigenie92what could be a clean way to remove it?10:57
abhigenie92nvidia-367-dev and nvidia-367 are available via apt-get10:58
BluesKajjust do, sudo apt install nvidia-367 the installed driver will automatcally be disabled11:00
abhigenie92should I sudo apt-get remove --purge nvidia-* before?11:00
BluesKajno need11:00
abhigenie92I am space issues.11:00
abhigenie92am-have11:00
BluesKajwell that's up to you'11:01
BluesKajdoubt you will gain much space unless your / is getting full ,if that' the case run autoremove and autoclean11:02
abhigenie92okay, how did you figure it was nvidia-367. There are other options also mentioned there11:04
abhigenie92like nvidia-36411:04
BluesKajbecause it's recommended11:05
abhigenie92oh yeah, is there any other way apart from driver manager to check what else drivers I need to install.11:06
BluesKajthat's the driver the driver manager would recommend if it wasn't broken11:06
abhigenie92doesn't sudo ubuntu-drivers devices do the same?11:07
abhigenie92I mean from the output should I install something else also?11:07
BluesKajabh you can check on the vidia website to see which linux driver is recommended there, but use the 367 from the repos with apt11:08
BluesKajabhigenie92,^11:08
abhigenie92BluesKaj, yeah, I was asking from  sudo ubuntu-drivers devices should I install something else also?11:09
abhigenie92I have installed intel-microcode11:09
BluesKajthat's optional yes11:10
MoonUnit`will have to check 367, last time i checked 364 i had resume problems so stuck with 36111:18
abhigenie92I reinstalled because I was having this issue with https://devtalk.nvidia.com/default/topic/926199/linux/361-28-crashes-matlab-r2016a/ with nvidia-36411:22
abhigenie92I still reinstalling right now to check if it fixes.11:22
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abhishek__hmmm12:02
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D-rexError while trying to view files on my phone with KDEConnect "Invalid object path: /modules/kdeconnect/devices/35.14.206.23/sftp"?15:47
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nikulinlgHi all! xfce or lxde for very old PC? Sorry, for my English16:01
BluesKajnikulinlg, how old ?16:09
eatdroidhi everyone!16:34
nikulinlgBluesKaj, very old. intel core 2 duo, 1 Gb ram, 500 Gb HDD.16:58
nikulinlgBluesKaj, sorry for my English16:58
BluesKajnikulinlg, your pc is lacking in RAM, otherwise it's fine , memory is cheap , and it's worth  adding  2 Gigs more. My pc is also dual core and ai added more RAM ., now it runs fine17:01
BluesKajIt won't be a gamer machine , but it will fine with kubuntu17:03
nikulinlgBluesKaj, ok, thank You! I try to back to life my old PC :-)17:07
BluesKajnikulinlg, my pc is 8 yrs old , still running fine17:08
david_SSD disk also makes your computer much more responsive17:17
BluesKajdavid_, yes I use a samsung evo 850 256GB SSD on this old pc , makes a big difference in response17:20
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geekosopherhi all17:50
geekosopherubottu: lts17:51
ubottuLTS means Long Term Support. Until 12.04 LTS versions of Ubuntu were supported for 3 years on the desktop, and 5 years on the server; since 12.04 (Precise Pangolin) LTS versions will be supported for 5 years on the desktop and server. The latest LTS version of Ubuntu is !Xenial (Xenial Xerus 16.04)17:51
geekosopherubottu: kubuntu 16.04 release notes17:52
ubottugeekosopher: I am only a bot, please don't think I'm intelligent :)17:52
geekosopherubottu: kubuntu 16.0417:52
Unit193!notes17:53
ubottuUbuntu 16.04 (Xenial Xerus) release notes can be found here: https://wiki.ubuntu.com/XenialXerus/ReleaseNotes17:53
acheron_ukhttps://wiki.ubuntu.com/XenialXerus/ReleaseNotes/Kubuntu17:59
pepeewhat the hell happened to the directory viewer in konqueror? :(19:05
BluesKajis konqueror still supported ?19:06
pepeeI hope19:08
IrcsomeBot<Clifford> Not supported in kubuntu19:09
pepeeI dislike dolphin...19:09
BluesKajnot installed by default19:09
BluesKajbut in the repos19:10
pepeeI upgraded from 14.0419:10
pepeebeen upgrading since... dunno how many years19:10
rabbihello19:25
rabbianyone here19:25
LeoDaVinciim having trouble getting xubuntu to start from a bootable usb. i have the correct iso on it and used lili to make it live. i have a hp laptop. i went into the bios and turned legacy support on and switched the usb to the top. also went into the boot options but my usb didnt show up. i used all usb ports aswell.19:26
andy123LeoDaVinci: that seems to be a problem with your bios, not with kubuntu19:27
andy123what do you mean, didnt show up?19:27
andy123what happens when you try to boot from usb?19:28
LeoDaVinciit just boots into windows normally19:30
rabbihello i ran kubuntu-devel-release on bash19:30
rabbiit upgraded me to kubuntu 16.4 LTS19:30
rabbibut its super buggy19:30
rabbiokular takes years to open epub19:31
andy123LeoDaVinci: I guess your boot stick is not correct19:31
rabbiapps crash19:31
LeoDaVincilili has always worked for me19:31
BluesKajrabbi, install kubuntu-restricted-extras after updating and upgrading19:32
rabbii had kubuntu 14 before upgrading?19:32
LeoDaVinciwhat other program will create it?19:32
pepeeLeoDaVinci, read the manual of your motherboard, you probably have to press f8 or f9 to boot from another device19:33
rabbiwill that fix it?19:33
pepeeLeoDaVinci, also, did you mean kubuntu? support for xubuntu is in a different channel19:33
rabbii thought restricted extras was for video and audio codecs19:33
andy123LeoDaVinci: you can create the usb stick with dd19:33
andy123rabbi: this is correct, this wont fix crashes.19:33
andy123rabbi: unfortunately, kubuntu 16.04 not not very stable yet imo19:34
pepeerabbi, I'd enable the kubuntu PPA19:34
LeoDaVincipepee, i did press that and when it all came up my usb didnt19:35
andy123LeoDaVinci: try this19:35
andy123sudo dd if=/path/to/ubuntu.iso of=/dev/sdb bs=1M19:35
BluesKajrabbi, it is but it's also for java which I mistakenlky thought was relevant19:35
pepeeLeoDaVinci, then your computer has some problem with the usb stick, probably... or k/xunbuntu wasn't installed correctly19:35
andy123where /dev/sdb is your usb device19:35
rabbiwow19:36
rabbii thought the whole point of a lts is a stable release19:36
pepeeLeoDaVinci, note that overwritting your usb drive will destroy all data in it. also, make sure that you are writing to the correct device..19:36
pepeerabbi, hehe19:36
pepeewelcome to the linux world19:37
BluesKajrabbi, are you running devel tools etc19:37
rabbiyeah19:37
rabbisure19:37
rabbisorry, thought u meant dev tools19:37
LeoDaVinciive done this before on another laptop the same way. and same usb drive19:37
rabbiwhat are devel tools?19:37
andy123LeoDaVinci: try if the stick boots on another computer19:38
pepeeLeoDaVinci, did it work in that other laptop? if so, then yes, it's related to the BIOS/UEFI, nothing to do with *ubuntu19:38
pepeeI guess you have to enable some settings in the BIOS/UEFI menu19:40
BluesKajrabbi, nm , it's not relevant ...forget me , i'm mistaken19:41
rabbiBlues, what are devel tools?19:41
BluesKajthey don't exist yet for KDE/plasma in the repos19:42
LeoDaVinciso theres nothing i can do if its my computer?19:43
andy123LeoDaVinci: if the bios settings cannt fix it, you're pretty much screwed19:45
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pepeeLeoDaVinci, most of the time, those settings are hidden. once again, try reading the manual of your computer19:53
pepee<rabbi> when can you typically expect kubuntu 16 to be stable?20:07
pepeepoor rabbi20:07
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N3X15One more HexChat restart, apologies for the reconnect spam and amsg.21:07
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