[00:30] <Lostfound> hey guyz
[00:31] <Lostfound> im runing kubuntu 15.x is it safe to upgrade to 16.4 through software upgrades?
[00:34] <user|12806> Can anyone tell me what 'Run Chat' is?
[00:36] <Lostfound> a little more specific?
[00:37] <c31f4d0r> good evening! I'm trying to record my screen using ( DESKTOP RECORDER ) RecordtNow only that the program only records the notebook microphone audio and not the audio of the site you want . already tried all settings ... can someone give me a hint ?
[00:41] <user|12806> I was looking for an irc client in my newly installed Kubuntu 16.10 as it was included in a previous version, instead, when I typed chat in the search box, I was only given 'Run Chat', when I clicked that, nothing happened. I'd like to know what it is.
[00:51] <Lostfound> probably some irc client
[00:52] <Lostfound> but strange that nothing happened
[00:54] <valorie> user|12806: konversation should be provided by default
[00:54] <valorie> but I've never seen "run chat"
[00:54] <valorie> c31f4d0r: that isn't kde or kubuntu software -- perhaps ask in #ubuntu
[00:54] <valorie> there are more people there
[00:55] <c31f4d0r> thanks valorie
[00:55] <valorie>  user|12806 huh, I see that run chat too
[00:55] <valorie> irc is irc though
[00:55] <c31f4d0r> I'm giving up...
[00:55] <user|12806> I did find 'Konversation' eventually, but this 'Run Chat' worried me...
[00:56] <Dragnslcr> Looks like "chat" is some command line utility
[00:56] <valorie>  when I type irc in krunner, "applications" listed konversation
[00:56] <Dragnslcr> So that's why you get "Run chat"
[00:56] <valorie> right, there may be some old x command, run chat
[00:56] <valorie> I doubt it will do anything
[00:57] <valorie> type it in a konsole and see!
[00:59] <user|12806> I'd better not. This is my 3rd installation this week. I had enough of 'broken' Kubuntu's
[01:00] <user|12806> Anyone knows how an old Kubuntu 14.10 (my personal favorite) can be downloaded and where and why is it not available any more?
[01:01] <dax> 14.10 hasn't had security updates since 2015. Using it is a rather terrible idea.
[01:04] <user|12806> Well, at least that was stable.
[01:04] <user|12806> What's my best option then?
[01:04] <user|12806> ...if we talk about stability
[01:06] <valorie> 16.04 is an LTS, and very stable
[01:06] <valorie> what problems have you had with it?
[01:06] <valorie> especially with backports it is smooth as silk
[01:08] <N3X15> Is there a known issue with mouse pointer being wildly offset on the Kubuntu-CI build?
[01:09] <N3X15> Just want to make sure I'm not going crazy
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[01:09] <user|memo> download in USB key
[01:13] <user|12806> valorie no, really, I haven't had problems with 16 for now, if we discount a couple of bugs. but this is the third one I'm installing after 15.10 was corrupt, 14.04 started giving me error messages on every click after only one day I've been using it
[01:14] <user|12806> valorie I must say, I've never seen a more stable one than the good old 14.10 I've been using last year
[01:15] <mparillo> I agree 14.10 was great, but the closest thing now is 14.04 which is getting a bit long in the tooth.
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[01:27] <N3X15> Uh, not sure
[01:27] <N3X15> I'm hooked up to the PPA
[01:27] <N3X15> It's been screwy for several days, at least
[01:49] <darin> valorie or anyone: YY akonadi is not running, but when I attempt to start is as mentioned here https://userbase.kde.org/Akonadi#Controlling_the_Akonadi_server, message says it is not installed. apt intall says it already is.
[01:49] <darin> apt install^
[01:54] <valorie> for me akonadi, kmail etc was removed during the upgrade from the 3 PPAs
[01:55] <valorie> however, since plasma isn't started, I'll probably just shut it down from a tty
[01:55] <valorie> until there is something new to try
[02:17] <user|confused> so im trying to do a guided install of 16.04 (manual keeps failing), and my swap is being assigned as 93gb. what in the world?
[03:07] <alexo> What's the worst thing that can happen by running an unsupported version of Kubuntu like 14.10?
[03:10] <valorie> alexo: you will get no security updates
[03:10] <valorie> imo if you want to stay an older release, stick to LTS
[03:11] <valorie> 14.04, or 16.04 -- granted, the leap is huge between
[03:11] <valorie> even 12.04 is still supported with security updates
[03:12] <Guest51562> how can i check if something is built into my kernel?
[03:13] <valorie> something?
[03:14] <Guest51562> specifically, vfio-pci
[03:14] <valorie> hmm, you could ask in #ubuntu-kernel
[03:14] <Guest51562> okay, checking there
[03:14] <valorie> the kernel is not Kubuntu's remit
[03:15] <Guest51562> ??
[03:17] <valorie> Guest51562: what I mean is that the kernel team does the kernel, while we do KDE packages
[03:17] <valorie> nobody in our team is also on the kernel team
[03:17] <Guest51562> Oh, okay
[05:12] <D-rex> anyone know how to fix the kde connect dolphin error "Invalid object path: /modules/kdeconnect/devices/35.14.206.23/sftp"? I get this error while trying to view files on my phone
[05:33] <valorie> D-rex: make sure you have the same version of kdeconnect on your phone as you do on your computer
[05:45] <D-rex> valorie: how do I update my desktop kde connect on 16.04... its version 0.8 phone is version 0.9
[05:47] <D-rex> i ran apt-get update but it's not detecting the new version or the repo isnt updating version
[05:49] <D-rex> nm there the same version was looking at wrong packge
[05:49] <D-rex> they're
[05:57] <benve> ciao
[06:15] <valorie> !info kdeconnect
[06:15] <valorie> hmmm
[06:15] <valorie> I think it's in a PPA
[06:17] <valorie> darn, he stopped maintaining that
[06:18] <valorie> I also have 0.8, and I'm on 16.10 already
[07:32] <stephan> Hello all. I have kubuntu 16.04 and when i log into KDE i have suspend to ram after 30 minutes. Is there a possibility that sddm can have the same suspend to ram time without logging into kde first?
[07:39] <valorie> I rarely or never logout
[07:43] <stephan> The PC in question is for guests and also sometimes started with wake-on-lan. So the PC is sometimes started to sddm without logging in to kde and then sometimes running for days. I would like that suspend to ram also works from sddm without logging in kde first.
[07:48] <valorie> I dunno
[07:48] <valorie> SDDM isn't KDE software, unfortunately
[07:50] <valorie> we're in a tough place because KDM is not supported anymore, and lightdm doesn't fit our requirements
[08:05] <Kenshiwara> Hello! The drag and drop feature is not working in Chrome when using Dolphin under Kubuntu 16.04. There is also a question on AskUbuntu about that without any answers: https://askubuntu.com/questions/718161/cant-drag-files-from-dolphin-to-chrome - Can anyone help? thanks
[09:22] <BluesKaj> Howdy folks
[10:53] <abhigenie92> the driver manager in kubuntu 16.04 is not working and I wanted to check if I have installed the correct driver
[10:53] <abhigenie92> Drivers info: http://paste.ubuntu.com/16799837/
[10:53] <BluesKaj> abhigenie92, driver manager is buggy , forget it for now
[10:55] <abhigenie92> BluesKaj, please check my paste
[10:56] <BluesKaj> yeah abhigenie92 I did, looks like the 367 driver should be installed
[10:56] <abhigenie92> BluesKaj, oh thanks! Should I uninstall the current one and install that one then,
[10:57] <abhigenie92> what could be a clean way to remove it?
[10:58] <abhigenie92> nvidia-367-dev and nvidia-367 are available via apt-get
[11:00] <BluesKaj> just do, sudo apt install nvidia-367 the installed driver will automatcally be disabled
[11:00] <abhigenie92> should I sudo apt-get remove --purge nvidia-* before?
[11:00] <BluesKaj> no need
[11:00] <abhigenie92> I am space issues.
[11:00] <abhigenie92> am-have
[11:01] <BluesKaj> well that's up to you'
[11:02] <BluesKaj> doubt you will gain much space unless your / is getting full ,if that' the case run autoremove and autoclean
[11:04] <abhigenie92> okay, how did you figure it was nvidia-367. There are other options also mentioned there
[11:04] <abhigenie92> like nvidia-364
[11:05] <BluesKaj> because it's recommended
[11:06] <abhigenie92> oh yeah, is there any other way apart from driver manager to check what else drivers I need to install.
[11:06] <BluesKaj> that's the driver the driver manager would recommend if it wasn't broken
[11:07] <abhigenie92> doesn't sudo ubuntu-drivers devices do the same?
[11:07] <abhigenie92> I mean from the output should I install something else also?
[11:08] <BluesKaj> abh you can check on the vidia website to see which linux driver is recommended there, but use the 367 from the repos with apt
[11:08] <BluesKaj> abhigenie92,^
[11:09] <abhigenie92> BluesKaj, yeah, I was asking from  sudo ubuntu-drivers devices should I install something else also?
[11:09] <abhigenie92> I have installed intel-microcode
[11:10] <BluesKaj> that's optional yes
[11:18] <MoonUnit`> will have to check 367, last time i checked 364 i had resume problems so stuck with 361
[11:22] <abhigenie92> I reinstalled because I was having this issue with https://devtalk.nvidia.com/default/topic/926199/linux/361-28-crashes-matlab-r2016a/ with nvidia-364
[11:22] <abhigenie92> I still reinstalling right now to check if it fixes.
[12:02] <abhishek__> hmmm
[15:47] <D-rex> Error while trying to view files on my phone with KDEConnect "Invalid object path: /modules/kdeconnect/devices/35.14.206.23/sftp"?
[16:01] <nikulinlg> Hi all! xfce or lxde for very old PC? Sorry, for my English
[16:09] <BluesKaj> nikulinlg, how old ?
[16:34] <eatdroid> hi everyone!
[16:58] <nikulinlg> BluesKaj, very old. intel core 2 duo, 1 Gb ram, 500 Gb HDD.
[16:58] <nikulinlg> BluesKaj, sorry for my English
[17:01] <BluesKaj> nikulinlg, your pc is lacking in RAM, otherwise it's fine , memory is cheap , and it's worth  adding  2 Gigs more. My pc is also dual core and ai added more RAM ., now it runs fine
[17:03] <BluesKaj> It won't be a gamer machine , but it will fine with kubuntu
[17:07] <nikulinlg> BluesKaj, ok, thank You! I try to back to life my old PC :-)
[17:08] <BluesKaj> nikulinlg, my pc is 8 yrs old , still running fine
[17:17] <david_> SSD disk also makes your computer much more responsive
[17:20] <BluesKaj> david_, yes I use a samsung evo 850 256GB SSD on this old pc , makes a big difference in response
[17:50] <geekosopher> hi all
[17:51] <geekosopher> ubottu: lts
[17:52] <geekosopher> ubottu: kubuntu 16.04 release notes
[17:52] <geekosopher> ubottu: kubuntu 16.04
[17:53] <Unit193> !notes
[17:59] <acheron_uk> https://wiki.ubuntu.com/XenialXerus/ReleaseNotes/Kubuntu
[19:05] <pepee> what the hell happened to the directory viewer in konqueror? :(
[19:06] <BluesKaj> is konqueror still supported ?
[19:08] <pepee> I hope
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[19:09] <pepee> I dislike dolphin...
[19:09] <BluesKaj> not installed by default
[19:10] <BluesKaj> but in the repos
[19:10] <pepee> I upgraded from 14.04
[19:10] <pepee> been upgrading since... dunno how many years
[19:25] <rabbi> hello
[19:25] <rabbi> anyone here
[19:26] <LeoDaVinci> im having trouble getting xubuntu to start from a bootable usb. i have the correct iso on it and used lili to make it live. i have a hp laptop. i went into the bios and turned legacy support on and switched the usb to the top. also went into the boot options but my usb didnt show up. i used all usb ports aswell.
[19:27] <andy123> LeoDaVinci: that seems to be a problem with your bios, not with kubuntu
[19:27] <andy123> what do you mean, didnt show up?
[19:28] <andy123> what happens when you try to boot from usb?
[19:30] <LeoDaVinci> it just boots into windows normally
[19:30] <rabbi> hello i ran kubuntu-devel-release on bash
[19:30] <rabbi> it upgraded me to kubuntu 16.4 LTS
[19:30] <rabbi> but its super buggy
[19:31] <rabbi> okular takes years to open epub
[19:31] <andy123> LeoDaVinci: I guess your boot stick is not correct
[19:31] <rabbi> apps crash
[19:31] <LeoDaVinci> lili has always worked for me
[19:32] <BluesKaj> rabbi, install kubuntu-restricted-extras after updating and upgrading
[19:32] <rabbi> i had kubuntu 14 before upgrading?
[19:32] <LeoDaVinci> what other program will create it?
[19:33] <pepee> LeoDaVinci, read the manual of your motherboard, you probably have to press f8 or f9 to boot from another device
[19:33] <rabbi> will that fix it?
[19:33] <pepee> LeoDaVinci, also, did you mean kubuntu? support for xubuntu is in a different channel
[19:33] <rabbi> i thought restricted extras was for video and audio codecs
[19:33] <andy123> LeoDaVinci: you can create the usb stick with dd
[19:33] <andy123> rabbi: this is correct, this wont fix crashes.
[19:34] <andy123> rabbi: unfortunately, kubuntu 16.04 not not very stable yet imo
[19:34] <pepee> rabbi, I'd enable the kubuntu PPA
[19:35] <LeoDaVinci> pepee, i did press that and when it all came up my usb didnt
[19:35] <andy123> LeoDaVinci: try this
[19:35] <andy123> sudo dd if=/path/to/ubuntu.iso of=/dev/sdb bs=1M
[19:35] <BluesKaj> rabbi, it is but it's also for java which I mistakenlky thought was relevant
[19:35] <pepee> LeoDaVinci, then your computer has some problem with the usb stick, probably... or k/xunbuntu wasn't installed correctly
[19:35] <andy123> where /dev/sdb is your usb device
[19:36] <rabbi> wow
[19:36] <rabbi> i thought the whole point of a lts is a stable release
[19:36] <pepee> LeoDaVinci, note that overwritting your usb drive will destroy all data in it. also, make sure that you are writing to the correct device..
[19:36] <pepee> rabbi, hehe
[19:37] <pepee> welcome to the linux world
[19:37] <BluesKaj> rabbi, are you running devel tools etc
[19:37] <rabbi> yeah
[19:37] <rabbi> sure
[19:37] <rabbi> sorry, thought u meant dev tools
[19:37] <LeoDaVinci> ive done this before on another laptop the same way. and same usb drive
[19:37] <rabbi> what are devel tools?
[19:38] <andy123> LeoDaVinci: try if the stick boots on another computer
[19:38] <pepee> LeoDaVinci, did it work in that other laptop? if so, then yes, it's related to the BIOS/UEFI, nothing to do with *ubuntu
[19:40] <pepee> I guess you have to enable some settings in the BIOS/UEFI menu
[19:41] <BluesKaj> rabbi, nm , it's not relevant ...forget me , i'm mistaken
[19:41] <rabbi> Blues, what are devel tools?
[19:42] <BluesKaj> they don't exist yet for KDE/plasma in the repos
[19:43] <LeoDaVinci> so theres nothing i can do if its my computer?
[19:45] <andy123> LeoDaVinci: if the bios settings cannt fix it, you're pretty much screwed
[19:53] <pepee> LeoDaVinci, most of the time, those settings are hidden. once again, try reading the manual of your computer
 when can you typically expect kubuntu 16 to be stable?
[20:07] <pepee> poor rabbi
[21:07] <N3X15> One more HexChat restart, apologies for the reconnect spam and amsg.