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NorbyDroidBBL00:02
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goddardanyone put Google chrome in a snap package?00:18
user2635I still can't get lightdm to how it was before00:19
user2635how do I restore it to unity greeter00:19
user2635it's xubuntu at the moment00:19
TenLeftFingersuser2635: I've had the same problem recently. The answer is on AskUbuntu. You have to make a minor edit to a file.00:19
NoCodeWeird, I can't get ubuntu installed with unetbootin. So now I will try usb-creator00:20
NoCodeI never remember having this much trouble. :|00:20
user2635TenLeftFingers, think I got it00:20
user2635TenLeftFingers, I'll try it and see what happens00:21
goddardanyone put Google chrome in a snap package?00:23
guest_uRockNeedsInstalled updates last night, after restarting I no longer have panels just a blank background and a cursor00:24
guest_uRockNeedsI needs help00:24
clownkillerNoCode: are you using a USB drive with FAT support? Some of my newer drives only support exFAT and NTFS and they wouldn't work to boot ubuntu00:26
guest_uRockNeedsI have tried reinstalling ubuntu-desktop, reseting unity, and still get nothing  ---I am able to log into other accounts, but not my primary account00:26
NoCodeclownkiller, I've used these drive to install Ubuntu before. :)00:28
NoCodeGetting some sort of sys error black screen. Windows 7 booted fine.00:29
goddardguest_uRockNeeds: you got xsession errors or xsession lock files?00:30
goddardtry deleting them and then reboot and see what the xsession error file says and delete lock files00:31
User_hi, do u know if xchat2 2.8.8 can be installed in ubuntu 16.4 x64 ?00:32
clownkillerNoCode: If usb-creator doesn't work I'd try re-downloading the iso then try unetbootin again00:32
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guest_uRockNeedsgoddard, where do I find those? thanks00:32
goddardin your home folder00:33
lernerhow do I dim my backdrop light?00:33
lernerthe screen is too shinny00:33
goddardguest_uRockNeeds: your users home folder00:33
lemler3anyone out there who can help set up 3 monitors?00:34
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SayonaQuestion: Ubuntu fixed the problem with nvidia drivers? Becouse I have a nvidia 740m and if I install the drivers... give me black screen00:34
Guest67757ok00:35
guest_uRockNeedsgoddard, thanks will try00:35
lemler3my seem to work and i have the 770 are u using the tested version ?00:35
Guest31715i have nvidia driver 550M how drive i should to use00:35
Sayonanow not use ubuntu becouse haved problem with drivers00:35
Sayonalemler3: when you install the ubuntu?00:36
Sayonastable00:36
Guest31715yes00:36
lemler3i just switched to mate lol its all classic looking00:36
Guest31715today00:36
Guest67757on usb key or dvd00:37
Guest31715usb00:37
Sayonalol00:37
Sayonawhat work "lol" :))))00:37
Guest67757bah oui00:37
lemler3im loost00:38
Guest67757si t es sur windows00:38
Guest67757tu vas dans google00:38
Guest67757tu tape ubuntu 1600:38
daxGuest67757: #ubuntu-fr for French-language discussion, please00:38
guest_uRockNeedsgoddard, the .xsession-errors file = init: dbus pre-start process (2806) terminated with status 200:38
Guest67757tu telecharge le fichier iso00:38
Guest67757oops00:38
lemler3lol00:38
Guest67757go to ubuntu website00:38
Guest67757u can download free00:39
guest_uRockNeedsno locks00:39
Guest67757locks?00:39
Guest67757search 14.04.LTS00:40
guest_uRockNeedsI'll be back00:40
BrianBrohey00:40
SayonaDo love with linux not war !00:41
BrianBrook00:41
Guest67757i have a problem00:42
Bashing-om!ask | Guest6775700:43
ubottuGuest67757: Please don't ask to ask a question, simply ask the question (all on ONE line and in the channel, so that others can read and follow it easily). If anyone knows the answer they will most likely reply. :-) See also !patience00:43
Guest67757i need install halo 2 Online on my ubuntu00:43
_uRockNeedsScript for ibus started at run_im.00:44
_uRockNeedsScript for auto started at run_im.00:44
_uRockNeedsScript for default started at run_im.00:44
_uRockNeedsinit: dbus pre-start process (1945) terminated with status 200:44
_uRockNeedsinit: logrotate main process (1944) killed by TERM signal00:44
Guest67757if someone can help me with team viewer00:44
NorbyDroidFor patience skills (and others) try programming.00:44
_uRockNeedsgoddard, the output of the latest .xsession-errors00:44
NorbyDroidBashing-om: I am running tests on the drive.  Also I will try a 'virtual' install and trial to see if that suceeds.00:45
NorbyDroidDidn't think of doin it virtually.00:46
Bashing-omNorbyDroid: K .. I maintain my interest .00:46
_uRockNeedsI wonder if this line from syslog has anything to do with no desktop panels and icons. "5FDP gnome-session[2499]: GLib-CRITICAL: g_environ_setenv: assertion 'value != NULL' failed"00:47
NorbyDroidCrazy as I am my plan, if all goes well, is to have the barest installed in a CLI environment with just a specific compiler and my project installed on a laptop (old 32bit).  I was crazier and was gonna do it via DOS, but swapped over to a Linux CLI instead.00:48
lerner  xbacklight -dec 10 returned No outputs have backlight property00:51
lernerhelp please00:51
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Bashing-omNorbyDroid: I am a proponent of minimalistics . Funtionality 1st . Terminal ! Way to go !00:55
c31f4d0rgood evening! I'm trying to record my screen using ( DESKTOP RECORDER ) RecordtNow only that the program only records the notebook microphone audio and not the audio of the site you want . already tried all settings ... can someone give me a hint ?00:56
NorbyDroidBashing-om: Thank you.  I am a DOS user at heart.  Miss it.00:57
Bashing-omNorbyDroid: Giving my age away .. I came up before there was a GUI .. and have never been as comfortable in GUI as I am in terminal .. I think better terminally .01:00
TheOtherPapistSuHey. I have an issue with a user-made Linksys AE6000 driver. (https://bitbucket.org/sanrath/mediatek_mt7610u_sta_driver_linux-64bit) It seems to have stopped working with a new kernel. I don't know how to fix the code, but there must be someone who should I go to/what should I do? (Btw, I'm running Ubuntu 16.04 x64)01:00
TheOtherPapistSu*who can. Should01:01
Noruxshort question guys. I have a shell script on my Desktop, and when I try running it, it gets opened in emacs. How can I fix that?01:01
NorbyDroidBashing-om: Givin away mine, I remember the says before there was a personal computer where we used old dial-up modems a very slow speeds in Quantum Link.  lol01:01
NorbyDroid>days<01:02
TheOtherPapistSuNorux: I assume you've marked it as an executable and started it with "#!/bin/bash"?01:02
NoruxTheOtherPapistSu, yes01:02
Queenslayeranyone else had issues with chromium?01:02
_uRockNeedsAny thoughts on what .conf file could be causing on user account to go to a paneless desktop, while other accounts have no problems?01:02
Bashing-omNorbyDroid: Well too far off topic here .. we do this in #ubuntu-discuss .01:03
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QueenslayerThe flash in Chromium stutters like no tomorrow01:03
NoruxQueenslayer, do you use pepperflash01:03
TheOtherPapistSuNorux: Have you tried adjusting the executable setting in Nautilus?01:03
QueenslayerNorux, I think I might have01:04
NoruxTheOtherPapistSu, Nautilus is file manager right? I tried it using chmod and the filemanager.01:04
quietonecan't boot 16.04, gets this error: tpm_crb MSFT0101:00: can't request region for resource01:04
NoruxQueenslayer, I'd check that01:04
_uRockNeedsNorux, right click and open with?01:05
Norux_uRockNeeds, there's no terminal or console in the list01:05
TheOtherPapistSuNorux: Yes, Nautilus is the file manager. :) There should be a setting (I'm on Windows right now unfortunately) to affect the behavior of double clicking executables.01:05
TheOtherPapistSuNorux: Try this: https://askubuntu.com/questions/286621/how-do-i-run-executable-scripts-in-nautilus01:06
TheOtherPapistSunorux: Or just navigate to it from the Terminal.01:06
QueenslayerNorux, what about it in particular?01:06
QueenslayerDo I have to remove it?01:07
NoruxTheOtherPapistSu, thanks a lot ;)01:07
TheOtherPapistSuNorux: You're welcome. Glad to help.01:07
NoruxQueenslayer, check if it's installed and up to date01:07
Queenslayerah thanks Norux I'll check01:07
Queenslayerreluctant to try it01:07
QueenslayerIt's happening on the latest update01:07
QueenslayerFirefox works fine01:08
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_uRockNeedsI've read about purging nvidia, but I don't think that is the issue since my other accounts can log in fine01:09
kelvin_---01:10
kelvin_?01:10
_uRockNeedsWhat would happen if I rename the user file in the /Home/.config/dconf?01:12
OerHeks_uRockNeeds, alt f2 > typing ccsm and select unity launcher gain01:14
OerHekssome reinstall compiz, that would be the other way01:15
samthewildoneHow do I remove "user@localhost" from my terminal ? I just want to see a "~".01:16
daxsamthewildone: put in .bashrc export PS1="\w "01:17
samthewildonedax, way ahead of you chap > http://apple.stackexchange.com/questions/34910/how-to-hide-computer-name-and-user-name-in-terminal-command-prompt01:17
samthewildonedax, thanks though.01:17
samthewildonedax, where do I add it ?01:18
daxat the end of the file .bashrc in your home directly01:19
daxdirectory*01:19
spider12384hello everyone!01:19
uRocktried renaming the config file in compiz directory, the user in the dconf, and stillunable to get into the user account. any thoughts as to how to fix the one account not having panels nor icons would be great01:25
OerHeksuRock, alt f2 > type ccsm and select unity launcher again01:26
OerHekssome reinstall compiz, that would be the other way01:26
uRockOerHeks, I will give that a go, thanks01:27
OerHeksit might ask a few questions, as one setting caused this failure01:27
uRockwill try01:28
Bashing-omuRock: Verify access authority ? ' ls -al /home/<username> ' do you own /Xauthority and .ICEaithority  " also check in /var/run/lightdm/root/ .01:28
etasonAnyone willing to help out in installing GRUB on a RAID-10 setup?? Keep getting errors thrown in my face whenever I try different things and nothing online is working for me01:32
uRockOerHeks, Alt F2 doesn't do anything01:33
uRockI did install the compizconfig-settings-manager01:33
uRockStill starts with no panels, nor icons01:34
OerHeksand ctrl alt t - terminal01:34
uRockwill try, if I get booted, then it didn't work. I restart lightdm to get back to my other account01:35
B0g4r7_etason, I would consider breaking /boot out into a separate fs on some kind of a less complex volume/container format.01:35
etasonWhat would that entail?01:36
uRockOerHeks, Terminal won't open01:37
uRockIf I use ctrl alt F1, that works, but can't run ccsm from there01:38
WattisLoveHello I just tested encfs with the community page instructions and I've found it's easy to use and it works. I now want to make my own encrypted folder and mount point with the names of my choice (e.g. I followed the tutorial exactly and created .encrypted and /visible folders). I've already got all the test data out of the folders. Now how do I properly delete the folders so that encfs knows I'm no longer using them for encryption? thx01:38
uRockOerHeks, would you recommend renaming the .config folder or is that going too far?01:42
B0g4r7_It must be "folder" day.01:42
uRockWHy you folding?01:42
B0g4r7_about to01:42
OerHeksrenaming might be an option, sure01:43
uRockI' going to give it a try. I know which configs are important to me and will drop them back into the new folder as needed.01:44
WattisLoveI've thought of just deleting the ./encrypted and /visible dirs and then creating the new folders, but is that the correct way?01:44
uRockrenaming the .config folder and the .gconf folder didn't help01:54
neredsenvyI have a bootable Win10 USB Stick why does it not show up under BOOT MENU ?02:03
uRockHas me wondering what other conf files I can rename02:04
neredsenvyI only get the UBuntu HD as boot option02:04
neredsenvyThe USB worked before02:04
neredsenvyUbuntu installation02:04
uRockneredsenvy, was it plugged in when you installed?02:05
neredsenvyhuh ?02:05
OerHekstime to read the manual howto boot from usb02:06
neredsenvyWhen I installed Ubuntu I did not have me Win USB stick in02:06
hastikoAnyone on 16.04? The Software Center is terribly slow for me. How is it for you?02:06
hastikoGranted I have poor internet...but Ubuntu Software Center in 14.04 wasn't nearly this slow02:06
hastikowondering if I have something configured wrongly02:07
uRockneredsenvy, if it wasn't plugged in, then the grub loader couldn't see it. You may have to drop to bios and select what drive to boot from02:07
neredsenvyOerHeks: I see Ubuntu is garbage02:07
neredsenvyI did02:07
neredsenvyI shut down the PC pressed F12 selected BOOT SELECT MENU02:08
uRockubuntu has nothing to do with your bios boot menu02:08
neredsenvyI only get main HD with Ubuntu installation it does not detect the Win USB02:08
OerHeksmaybe faulty win10 usb, who can tell?02:08
neredsenvyuRock: Prior to Ubuntu installation it detected all bootable drives02:08
neredsenvyIt's detected by my second PC02:08
uRockubuntu doesn't touch the bios02:08
neredsenvyboth USB's 7 and 1002:09
neredsenvyand the Ubuntu USB02:09
dramaneredsenvy,  how did you make the usb stick02:11
dramatheres a linux app for that02:11
dramafor windows even02:11
ktinuxDoes anyone know why ubuntu logs me out right after logging in?02:11
neredsenvyIt was made on Windows using the Windows Download Tool worked without any issues on countless PC's02:12
neredsenvydrama: I can try and recreate another Win 10 USB what app are you thinking about02:12
dramaneredsenvy, is there a boot from usb option in you bios02:12
neredsenvys02:13
neredsenvyyes02:13
samthewildonedax, so I don't replace the actual "PS1" I just create a new line of code for it ?02:13
neredsenvythere's also a separate boot menu02:13
neredsenvyso I don't have to go into a bios to pick the drive I want to boot from02:14
Bashing-om!details | ktinux02:21
ubottuktinux: Please elaborate; your question or issue may not seem clear or detailed enough for people to help you. Please give more detailed information; for example, we might need errors, steps, relevant configuration files, Ubuntu version, and hardware information. Use a !pastebin to avoid flooding the channel.02:21
uRockWhat isthe first user level config file ubuntu looks at when logging in?02:24
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Bashing-omuRock: Loads configuration dirs from /usr/share/lightdm/lightdm.conf.d . Might see what is in the log file /var/log/lightdm/lightdm.log .02:34
uRockI've renamed every conf folderand file in the home folder and still can't get to the desktop. This is mind blowing.02:34
uRockwill do Bashing-om02:35
Bashing-omuRock: Delete ~/.dmrc ?? sometimes that works .02:36
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Blah4is anyone here using Xeoma?02:38
uRockBashing-om, that didn't do it. Going to check that log file02:39
uRockBashing-om, log file is empty02:40
uRockI have a gksu.lock could that be something?02:41
ProficientWombatAnyone here use awesome WM?02:41
Bashing-omuRock:  gksu.lock. no would not think so .02:42
chrstphrchvzHi, I'm trying to determine what is setting net.ipv4.tcp_syncookies to 0 after boot, even though I set it to 1 in /etc/sysctl.conf. Using 14.04.4 desktop02:43
johngilbroughHas anyone worked out how to scrape a gnome-terminal?02:47
uRockI keep checking.xsession-errors and finding a line refering to  init: dbus pre-start process(###) terminated with status 202:50
uRockthis isn't in the xsession-errors for the accounts not having the problem02:50
Bashing-omuRock: Any hints when ' gsettings set org.gnome.desktop.background show-desktop-icons true ' runs and fails ?02:52
chrstphrchvzjohngilbrough: not sure what you mean by "scrape". that might be easier with somehow directing the tty ahead of time, e.g. use screen to log to a file, or are you trying to scrape the buffer of what's already displayed in gnome-terminal?02:52
chrstphrchvzuRock: have you already tried http://askubuntu.com/questions/43246/how-to-configure-gnome-3-to-show-icons-on-desktop ?02:54
uRockBashing-om, "cannot autolaunch D-Bus without X11 display02:55
uRocklikely because I am in tty02:55
TakagamiuRock, what brought about this problem? Out of the blue?02:56
Bashing-omuRock: Yeah .. That copomand would meed X active . OK this file exist ' /var/log/gpu-manager.log ' ?02:56
uRockTakagami, ran updates last night, started system this morning and can't get back to the my user's desktop02:56
chrstphrchvzuRock: I ran into a similar issue where I couldn't use `gsettings set...` without using e.g. `dbus-launch gsettings set...` But I think dbus-launch requires X running in the first place, not sure02:57
uRockchrstphrchvz, not quite the same issue02:57
uRockI was looking at the link02:57
TakagamiAnd this is only affecting one particular user?02:58
uRockBashing-om, will check for that log02:58
uRockTakagami, yes02:58
johngilbroughchrstphrchvz, the later one - where I execute a command, and everything that on the gnome-terminal screen is captured.02:58
chrstphrchvzjohngilbrough, so both stdout and stderr?02:59
Takagami@uRock, Unity/Gnome? NVIDIA/AMD/INTEL? What does load if anything after logging in? <--- sorry, came in late to this issue...02:59
johngilbroughchrstphrchvz, sure, but I dont know if gnome-terminal differentiates between the two03:00
uRockBashing-om, the only error lines I see in there are "failed to open dev/dri03:00
uRockTakagami, as soon as I hit enter to log in I get the standard purple backgroun and a cursor03:01
uRockTakagami, AMD, standard ubuntu 14.04 unity03:01
uRockTakagami, correction nvidia03:01
chrstphrchvzjohngilbrough, gnome-terminal doesn't but your shell does (I think). http://stackoverflow.com/a/876242/4896937 should work if what you want is for a single command03:02
johngilbroughchrstphrchvz, let me check that out - Thank You.03:03
syeekicki edited fstab rebooted the machine and lost internet connection ubuntu 16.04. Im trying to go through the arch wiki step by step to configure the network. I can't ping google and im struggling to get it back up. Is there some wizzardry commands you know of?03:03
uRockThe only hidden files I haven't renamed are .purple .ssh .remmina .pki .gstramer .gvfs03:04
uRockall of the other conffiles have been renamed in attempt to find the bad conf03:04
hastikoanyone know what these little symbols are in file names that look like a long haired dude: https://imgur.com/dize3ae03:04
Takagami@uRock, can you ctrl+alt+t to open a terminal from the blank desktop after logging in?03:04
uRockno03:04
johngilbroughchrstphrchvz, what they're talking there is re-direction of output, not scraping.03:04
hastikothey were files on a backup drive created on OSX in fat3203:04
uRockTakagami, the only thing that works are the ctrl alt commands to get to tty03:05
syeekicki cant ping anything on my local network either03:05
chrstphrchvzsyeekick, if you're using desktop then networkmanager is where I would check first. totally unsure how editing fstab causes that specific issue03:05
syeekickits headless, thats what i mean fstab has nothing to do with networking03:06
johngilbroughchrstphrchvz, An example: some program, mine or otherwise creates an error.  I need to be able capture whatever is on the terminal, no matter where it came from.03:06
syeekicki re configured fstab back to its defaults03:06
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uRockI just noticed .dbus hadn't been renamed, did that and restarting03:07
uRockdidn't help03:07
uRock8(03:07
uRockthis is getting the best of me03:08
B0g4r7_What problem are you trying to solve by renaming a lot of files?03:09
Bashing-omsyeekick: Host and the card is good ? ' ping -c3 127.0.0.1 ' returns positive ?03:09
chrstphrchvzjohngilbrough, so even something not run from terminal? and by "whatever is on the terminal", do you mean stdout, stderr, stdin, and/or command arguments?03:09
syeekickifconfig only shows my loopback adapdter03:09
B0g4r7_ifconfig -a03:09
syeekickpositive on that bashing03:09
syeekickifconfig -a shows eno103:10
johngilbroughchrstphrchvz, simply capture whatever is displayed on the gnome-terminal - that's all.03:10
syeekickwhich is a relif03:10
Guest51562how can i check if vfio is built into my kernel? (16.04)03:10
syeekickim cheecking the ip4 address to see if my router is not blocking it03:10
syeekicki can't trace route to my windows box because ei ahven't got the util installed03:10
NoCodeIs there a way to allow ufw to use port 21 locally instead of the WAN? I've tried, "sudo ufw allow 21 from 192.168..x.xxx" which doesn't allow the rule.03:10
Bashing-omsyeekick: Next ip is the card identifued and a driver loaded ' sudo lshw -C network ' / in the configuration line a driver is listed ?03:12
syeekickubuntu isn't showing up on the router either so i03:12
Bashing-omip/up*03:12
Steven_MHi all03:12
uRockNoCode, I'd add that rule in GUFW03:12
syeekicknetwork disabled03:12
Steven_MI unlocked the root user, but the password dialogue boxes in gnome that appear when you need to escalate privileges, still accept my sudo user's password. Any idea on how to fix this?03:12
pcghosthello guys03:13
Steven_Mpcghost: hi :)03:14
pcghosthi steven :)03:14
chrstphrchvzjohngilbrough, based on http://askubuntu.com/q/519555 and similar questions/feature requests, gnome-terminal doesn't support that. The workarounds seem to be using some other command(s) to log either the output streams or entire shell session ahead of time.03:14
syeekickso i've tied enabling with ifconfig eno1 up03:15
Bashing-omsyeekick: A headless server such that network-manager is not a factor, right ?03:15
syeekickayee03:15
berglhgot a quick question on ubuntu zfs for 16.0403:15
syeekickif not we can go talk in #ubuntu-server so i can stop spamming in this popular channel03:15
pcghostubuntu 16.04  have issue wifi?03:16
berglhupgraded from 15.10 and have a zfs and an spl module that have Diff between built and installed module on them03:16
berglhis there a zfs package i need to remove to prevent these modules getting built now03:16
berglhlike zfs-dkms03:16
Bashing-omsyeekick: Then we need now to look at the config file /etc/network/interfaces . Yhat it has an entry for eno1 .03:17
berglhpcghost: s/ubuntu 16.04/all linux distros ever/03:17
preciseHey guys, just looking to get some second, tertiary opinions. I have a laptop (Dell Precision M4500; 16GB, 1TB HDD, 120GB SSD, quad i7) I want to replace the CD/DVD with a third HDD/SSD. Which one would you choose?03:17
Bashing-omsyeekick: Your issue is valid for this channel , we can all learn from your problem . Not to say that I have a solution .03:18
preciseI know this isn't exactly Ubuntu related, but I am running 16.04 so I guess that counts03:18
syeekick:)03:18
syeekicki cant install pastebin utils to give you exactly what is written but it all looks in check here03:18
Bashing-omprecise: Hand down a SSD .03:19
syeekickconsidering this has been edited since a couple of reboots, i told it to sit on 192.168.0.9 and thats about it03:19
chrstphrchvzGuest51562, do you mean the vfio-pci module? maybe see if modprobe -l vfio-pci lists anything03:19
preciseI'm looking for storage, I already have 120GB SSD for root, should I get more?03:19
preciseBashing-om^03:20
Guest51562i can load it just fine, but how can i make sure it's loaded every time?03:20
Guest51562i read something about rebuild the kernel03:20
Bashing-omsyeekick: Mine: http://paste.ubuntu.com/16792145/ . is yours similar ?03:20
syeekickprecise, thats up to you go as large as you can afford without being over kill, 250gig is nice 128 can be a little short03:21
B0g4r7_precise, if you don't care about weight and power consumption and whatnot, why not get a second identical hard drive and do raid-1?03:21
precisewhat are the pros and cons of raid-1?03:21
pcghostguys03:21
chrstphrchvzGuest51562, add it to /etc/modules if you want to load it at boot03:21
B0g4r7_The big pro is that one drive can fail and you don't lose your data.03:21
syeekickno but i can make it resemble that03:21
B0g4r7_I guess the cons would be the extra cost, weight, power consumption, heat, etc.03:22
preciseB0g4r7_ What about performance?03:22
B0g4r7_Performance is normally the same as with a single drive.03:22
syeekickweight or powerconsumption are not an issue neither is heat03:22
syeekickssds are awesome :P03:22
chrstphrchvzpcghost, what issue do you mean? I think it may depend on what wifi hardware/driver you have03:23
B0g4r7_I use an ssd to accelerate/cache a raid of spinning drives on my desktop.03:23
preciseI don't think I really need a cache though, I run 16GB of RAM, or am I mistaken?03:24
hastikoanyone know what this symbol means in file names? https://imgur.com/dize3ae03:24
preciseDoes cache == pagefile/swap03:24
precise?03:24
Guest51562is there any way to make sure those modules load first?03:25
RomanLier-hello03:25
Bashing-omuRock: Want to see what results when lightdm, unity and the greeter is re-configured ?03:26
RomanLier-i installed korean keyboard but when i switch input language in order to write korean it doesn't seem to work, still latin alphabet...03:27
Bashing-omsyeekick: If you are static, yours will be different . ( if you do not use nicks to address, I will miss your reply )03:27
johngilbroughchrstphrchvz, OK.  Thank you sir.  g'night.03:27
syeekick ok you fixed it Bashing-om i just set it to auto on everything03:27
syeekicki'll let the router handle dhcp reserevation03:27
uRockBashing-om, how do I do that?03:27
Bashing-omsyeekick: Routers are smart devices ;)03:27
Guest51562precise: that symbol is supposed to be a period ( . )03:27
precise?03:28
Bashing-omuRock: 14.04 right, such that this is upstart we are working with ?03:28
uRockyes03:28
Guest51562it appears your locale is off.03:28
Guest51562where in the world are you?03:28
RomanLier-is there a way to get help from someone in this channel?03:29
Guest51562RomanLier, you should just ask your question.03:29
hastikoGuest51562: Are you talking to me about the symbol?03:29
berglhGuest51562: they did03:29
hastikoin tha file name?03:29
RomanLier-i did...03:29
berglhRomanLier-: sorry, i don't knowk03:29
RomanLier-ok03:30
Guest51562Sorry, i've been buried in a terminal03:30
Bashing-omuRock: ' sudo service lightdmdm stop ; sudo dpkg-reconfigure lightdm ; sudo dpkg-reconfigure unity-greeter ; sudo service lightdm start ' // maybe ??03:30
uRockBashing-om, I will run it. nothing to lose03:30
hastikoGuest51562: Are you saying that symbol should be a period?03:31
Bashing-omuRock: Well, after all thps time and effort, be nice to know the why !03:31
Bashing-omthis*03:31
Guest51562seems like it should be, right in front of that "ZIP" file extension.03:32
hastikoBut have you seen that symbol? I don;t know what it is or why its happening. They don;t appear that way when plugged into OSX03:32
uRockthat was my thinking, otherwise i would've reinstalled by now. Knowing the cause could prevent future headaches for others03:32
preciseDoes 16.04 support Hot Swapping? I know this is a crap shoot, but the replacement for my DVD bay for the third HDD says it supports hot swapping...03:32
Guest51562Precise: is it a sata device?03:33
preciseYeah03:33
Guest51562yes, it should be03:33
preciseIt just goes in place of the stock DVD/CD drive03:33
hastikoBashing-om: Do you know why files on an external drive would show up with this odd symbol in file name? https://imgur.com/dize3ae03:33
Bashing-omprecise: Affirned ., linux does support sata hot swapping .. just make sure it is not the booting drive that you unplug !03:33
chrstphrchvzuRock: Wait, there's a typo in Bashing-om's command, I think he meant ' sudo service lightdm stop ; sudo dpkg-reconfigure lightdm ; sudo dpkg-reconfigure unity-greeter ; sudo service lightdm start '03:34
preciseDoes the actual drive  need to support hot swapping? Or do all SATA drives support it?03:34
syeekickthanks Bashing-om03:35
Guest51562All I think03:35
Bashing-omchrstphrchvz: Ouch .. yes ! uRock ^^ .03:35
draxdeveloper_hello, how i enable speel checking in x-chat?03:36
Bashing-omsyeekick: Hey glad ya got it up and running ... if not static I do prefer to have the router handle routing .03:36
syeekickyeah i think i'll use the router to do that from now on03:36
uRockchrstphrchvz, Bashing-om, i hadn't noticed that, but i had typed it correctly03:37
syeekickso it had nothing to do with fstab lol just shitty configuration my end03:37
draxdeveloper_my speel check option is activate but it's just not working03:37
uRockI am going to have to rerun it though, it skipped from the first to the last command03:37
hastikoAnyone? https://imgur.com/dize3ae what is this symbol?03:39
precisehastiko, can you copy/paste it?03:39
preciseIs it text?03:39
hastikono I took a screenshot of it...the drive isn't plugged in now03:39
hastikocan you not see imgur?03:40
hastikoI can put the photo somewhere else if you want03:40
uRockBashing-om, was the output supposed to look like this? lightdm stop/waiting03:40
uRocklightdm start/running, process 273403:40
preciseI can see the image just fine, I am just trying to figure out if it is a key-mapping issue or something else03:40
precisehastiko03:40
preciseShared storage between Windows and Linux? Are the any limitations of the NTFS file system?03:41
hastikoprecise: it's files on an external drive that appear normal when plugged into osx..I moved some files to here (not those with the odd symbol) and noticed this03:41
precisehastiko: Current OS is ubuntu?03:41
hastikoI can move those files to this xubuntu and cut and paste if you need....yes it's 16.0403:41
hastikoxubuntu03:41
Bashing-omuRock: Looks promising .. what is on TTY7 now > ( alt+F7) ?03:41
Steven_MI unlocked the root user, but the password dialogue boxes in gnome that appear when you need to escalate privileges, still accept my sudo user's password. Any idea on how to fix this?03:43
uRockBashing-om, reran it and restarting03:43
[Saint]Steven_M: fix what - that's intended behavior.03:44
[Saint]unlocking the root user won't magically prevent another user with sudo access from elevating through sudo.03:44
hastikoprecise: here is one: Bootcamp Drivers 6201403:45
uRockBashing-om, still nothing03:45
chrstphrchvzSteven_M, indeed it is intended if anything is using gksudo to show those boxes, so I guess one workaround is to remove sudo privilege for the user03:46
Bashing-omuRock: Well ,, as other accounts have no problems, we know the issue is in your user account config .. some where ... unity is deep !03:47
uRockThat it is. I SSHed into it and ran the commands one by one, then instead of starting lightdm, I restarted the system03:48
uRockstill nothing, time to copy files to external and install 160403:49
Steven_Mchrstphrchvz: ok thanks, I'll try that.03:49
draxdeveloper_hello, there is not the "normal" x chat for ubuntu?03:50
chrstphrchvzRomanLier-, there should be a way to change the keyboard layout in system settings, I can look for specific instructions if needed03:50
RomanLier-yes please, i need to be able to write using korean alphabet03:51
KenrinYou should just install the keyboard,  reboot,  then it'll show up in your bar to switch inputs03:52
NoCodestill getting connection timed out when trying to connect with sftp.03:52
Bashing-omuRock: K, .. this is a config thing .. while quicker to install than troubleshoot .. we can poke at it a bit more if ya want .03:53
uRockI'm game, any ideas Bashing-om03:53
draxdeveloper_i really can't find xchat except of xchat-gnome and the speel checker of xchat-gnome is not working. Also i preffer the normal x-chat03:53
pcghostwhy my ubuntu lags?03:55
Ben64draxdeveloper_: try hexchat03:55
chrstphrchvzdraxdeveloper_, the original xchat is not (as?) actively developed, but should still be packaged for ubuntu (see "exact hits": http://packages.ubuntu.com/search?keywords=xchat )03:55
draxdeveloper_ok, i will get it03:55
Bashing-omMind ya .. a long time since I have seen unity .. but we can ' dconf reset -f /org/compiz/ ; unity --reset-icons ; setsid unity ' . See if that gives us any hints on what is not taking place .03:55
draxdeveloper_my only problem is that speel checking is not working, oir ate least is not marking my erros03:56
draxdeveloper_errors03:56
pcghostim sorry03:56
hastikoKenrin: can you help me sort a couple things? First this odd symbol appeared in some file names when I attached an external drive...they display normally on OSX but not in xubuntu 16.04 "Bootcamp Drivers 62014" it looks like this when rendered https://imgur.com/dize3ae03:56
uRockBashing-om, will try03:57
KenrinNo idea about that,  my OS can't even render that strange symbol03:57
RomanLier-Kenrin: Already did that03:58
hastikoKenrin: Second thing is IRC no longer beeps with my name since I installed 16.04...I checked audio settings on IRC and System03:58
chrstphrchvzpcghost, too many possible causes to name. is your computer older or recent? how much RAM does it have?03:58
RomanLier-but when I try to write it's just latin script03:58
RomanLier-instead of the one i selected...03:59
chrstphrchvzpcghost, and what exactly is lagging? long boot? using apps? maybe there is no accelerated graphics when there should be?03:59
KenrinRomanLier:  You installed ibus-hangul ?03:59
RomanLier-i can't03:59
uRockBashing-om, failed from SSH, but I expected that04:00
RomanLier-i mean, i tried but i could not04:00
Bashing-omuRock: K .. well .. I am out of ideas .. we have run through all I know of to reset unity .04:01
KenrinIt gives an error or what ?04:01
KenrinIf you don't have that package,  your input isn't going to work04:01
Bashing-omuRock: re-install the desktop ?04:01
uRockBashing-om, I am typing them in locally to see how they run04:01
RomanLier-Kenrin: screenshot of error04:01
RomanLier-http://storage3.static.itmages.com/i/16/0529/h_1464494508_2523696_f4058d9219.png04:01
uRockyes, --reinstall ubunt-desktop04:02
uRockBashing-om, darn, it still failed. We tried though!04:04
uRockfor that I am thankful04:04
chrstphrchvzhastiko, is the problem only in thunar (xfce file browser) or do you see it from anywhere, e.g. in terminal?04:04
hastikochrstphrchv: let me check...should I just paste the file name into Terminal?04:05
KenrinTry a "sudo dpkg --configure -a & sudo apt-get install -f"04:05
TGVoidCan anyone help me in backing up a corrupt HDD? Someone helped me earlier by telling me to do ddrescue -d. Is there anything else I need to do when the process finishes?04:06
RomanLier-Kenrin: that's for me?04:06
KenrinRomanLier: yes04:06
hastikochrstphrchvz: it shows this weird yeti looking symbol in terminal too...if I paste it here it shows me a box with numbers not the yeti Bootcamp Drivers 6201404:06
Ben64TGVoid: look up ddrescue guides, theres a lot you can do with it04:07
RomanLier-ok, but -a ibus-hangul? or just a you wrote it??04:07
Bashing-omuRock: ' sudo apt-get purge ubuntu-desktop ; sudo apt-get install ubuntu-desktop ' ??04:07
chrstphrchvzhastiko, try listing the directory: `ls /media/{username}/{volume name}/`04:07
KenrinJust as I wrote it,  you need to resolve the dependencies first before you reinstall04:07
hastikochrstphrchvz yeah in ls it shows yeti head to04:08
hastikoin terminal04:08
hastikowhen I paste here I dont see tht symbol but instead a box that has I think "fo" on top  and "22" on bottom04:09
RomanLier-Kenrin: still same error04:09
hastikochrstphrchvz: when I paste it in mousepad or libreoffice or anyother editor it shows as the yeto head symbol thing04:10
chrstphrchvzhastiko, i wonder if its something in fonts/window manager or the system. can you do the ls command from a tty?04:10
hastikoi don;t know what tty is sorry...super noob here04:10
uRockBashing-om, didn't work At this point I am going to chown that directory and use the other account04:10
hastikoif I paste it in the browser url bar it shows as the box with FO and 22 in it04:11
hastikois that some character map? google doesnt say anything04:11
chrstphrchvzhastiko, see http://askubuntu.com/a/657962 . remember to press ctrl alt f7 to get back to xfce/desktop04:11
uRockBashing-om, thanks for helping! I've gotta jump off of here before the other half starts throwing stuff at me.04:12
Bashing-omuRock: Well, so much for my think'n .. Sometimes try'n just is not enough, huh ?04:12
uRockstill better than not trying04:12
KenrinRomanLier: That is strange,  did you try installing the packages manually?04:12
uRock8)04:12
Bashing-omuRock: Keep peace !04:12
RomanLier-Kenrin: you mean sudo apt-get install ibus-hangul?04:13
TGVoidBen64: I've found one, but it was different from what a person in this chat told me. Will ddrescue -n copy everything to my external drive? Also, how do I get the files themselves instead of the rescue file?04:13
KenrinI meant installing the dependencies:  libibus, libglic, libc6, python-gi, etc.04:13
Ben64TGVoid: you're going to need a lot more than just 'ddrescue -n'04:14
preciseIs there a way to delete a partition on shutdown. EX: I have sda1 and sda2, OS and everything essential on sda, but temporary stuff, not swap, but temp docs etc on sda1. Is there a way to wipe sda2 at shutdown so to preserve the OS but not the work?04:14
RomanLier-from the ubuntu software centre or from terminal?04:14
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hastikochrstphrchvz: i dont know what I am supposed to do once I am in the shell after I log in04:14
hastikois the shell tty?04:14
Kenrinwhichever, might be easier from the software center if they have strange version numbers on the end04:14
RomanLier-ok04:14
TGVoidBen64: What do I need to do on top of that? Also, ddrescue won't save blank space, right?04:15
chrstphrchvzhastiko, `ls /media/{username}/{volume name}/`04:15
Ben64TGVoid: thats why you need to read up about it, ddrescue copies everything04:15
hastikook I am looking for a list of files and seeing if the symbol shows there too?04:16
citrixi have a problem in php04:17
TGVoidBen64: Do you know of a good guide?04:17
citrixmy english is not good04:17
Ben64TGVoid: not offhand04:17
RomanLier-kenrin: the're all installed04:17
RomanLier-i mean, i'm not lacking any of them04:18
dramacitrix, you have xenial 16.04 ?04:18
citrixi m not able to understand04:18
TGVoidWait, if I use Foremost, will it delete the ddrescue file after extracting everything?04:18
chrstphrchvzhastiko, and the F022 actually tells me that the glyph is a Tibetan non-Unicode character http://www.thlib.org/reference/transliteration/#!essay=/thl/ewts/7/04:19
TGVoidBen64:04:19
Ben64TGVoid: no idea what foremost is04:19
preciseSo, I know there is a way to wipe /swap and RAM contents with the secure-delete package, is there a way to apply the same concepts to another partition?04:19
citrixmy problem is select Lastname, Email from SignUp where Firstname='Anu' and Password = 'always4yoy'04:19
Ben64precise: make a script run on shutdown and/or reboot to do it04:19
citrixcan you solve this problem anyone04:20
KenrinRomanLier: I'd switch your mirror to the main ubuntu repo in the software center04:20
TGVoidBen64: Is it possible to compress the drive image so all of the free space is taken out?04:20
RomanLier-what does that mean?04:20
preciseBen64, I figured it would be something like that. So would you suggest just to dd /dev/nul the partition?04:20
chrstphrchvzhastiko, the tty will first ask you to log in, then the shell is the usual prompt you see in terminal. {username}@{hostname}:~$04:20
hastikochrstphrchvz: in shell it shows as Bootcamp Drivers 6"2014 where the " is this symbol other places04:21
Ben64precise: format it04:21
preciseWhat about on an SSD04:21
Ben64TGVoid: there's no such thing as free space04:21
TheHackOpsHey guys I have a video card with 3GB of GDDR5 vram, for some reason ubuntu is only reporting the VRAM amount as 256mb04:21
preciseMy plan is to pull files from an HDD when needed, then erase when I'm done.04:22
TheHackOpsIf its using all my VRAM thats cool but if not, how can I get it to use all of it04:22
TGVoidBen64: There isn't?04:22
preciseI know it sounds convoluted, but I have my reasons :P04:22
RomanLier-Kenrin: what does that mean?04:22
KenrinRomanLier: It means whatever sources.list repo you are using probably has bad packages and needs to be changed04:22
Ben64TGVoid: when you delete a file, it deletes the record of the file, but the file stays on the drive until overwritten.04:22
RomanLier-so?04:22
RomanLier-how can i fix that?04:23
TGVoidBen64: So those files will remain on my recovery file?04:23
TGVoidBen64: Rescue*04:23
Ben64it will try to make a full image of the drive04:23
KenrinGoto system settings: software and updates04:23
NicoleWrightwhat is the ubuntu off topic channel?04:23
KenrinChange your download from:04:24
KenrinTry the Main Server04:24
NicoleWrightKenrin what is the ubuntu off topic channel on here?04:24
Kenrin!ot04:24
ubottu#ubuntu is the Ubuntu support channel, for all Ubuntu-related support questions. Please register with NickServ (see /msg ubottu !register) and use #ubuntu-offtopic for other topics (though our !guidelines apply there too). Thanks!04:24
RomanLier-ok, now main server is seleted04:25
preciseBen64: In my scenario: would the drive being an SSD change anything when wiping the partition?04:25
KenrinOk so do a sudo apt-get update and then try to reinstall ibus-hangul04:25
TGVoidBen64: That means viruses and unwanted software will remain? Is there anyway to back up just the un-overwritable files?04:25
TGVoidBen64: I can't mount the drive at all04:25
Ben64precise: apart from it not making sense and making the ssd wear faster, i guess not04:25
preciseBen64: both good points, thanks for your time!04:26
Kenriner,  do apt-get upgrade too04:26
RomanLier-ok04:26
Ben64TGVoid: right, so if the drive is damaged, how can you tell what is supposed to be deleted and what isn't04:26
RomanLier-upgrade is for OS right?04:26
srulilubuntu 16.04 when trying to start NetworkManager i get an error "NetworkManager: failed at step namespace spawning /usr/sbin/NetworkManager: invalid argument"  I found the bug in a debian mailing list and the solution was to comment out a few lines in NetworkManager.service the line i commented outoto get it to work is ProtectSystem=true, my question is is this safe?04:26
KenrinIt just upgrades all of your packages if there is a newer version04:26
chrstphrchvzhastiko, interesting because " is hexadecimal 22 in ascii/unicode. might be a bug in xfce somewhere where the double quotes aren't being interpreted correctly. But in this irc chat, were you able to type double quotes and see it correctly?04:27
Ben64RomanLier-: should do apt-get dist-upgrade04:27
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KenrinThat too,  thanks ben04:27
TGVoidBen64: The drive itself isn't damaged to my knowledge. A partition just corrupted (or maybe the entire drive)04:27
RomanLier-and dist-upgrade? what's that?04:27
Ben64TGVoid: point still stands04:27
RomanLier-so i know what i'm typing04:28
hastikochrstphrchvz: no it shows that FO22 box in here Bootcamp Drivers 6201404:28
TGVoidBen64: So I can't recover the raw files directly?04:28
hastikoshows this same way in firefox URL bar04:28
Ben64RomanLier-: does the same as upgrade + can install new packages for things that need it04:28
RomanLier-ok04:28
TGVoidBen64: Instead of a single image04:28
RomanLier-i'll try that three04:28
KenrinYeah it is a better command unless you really really don't want some packages removed04:28
hastikochrstphrchvz: i remember when installing it said something about language support missing but it closed itself and kept on04:28
Ben64TGVoid: you make an image so you don't maybe break something in the process04:28
hastikocan I somehow update the language support?04:28
TGVoidBen64: The thing is that space is an issue04:29
chrstphrchvzhastiko, also double quotes don't normally belong in filenames in Windows-compatible filesystems (e.g. fat32)04:30
hastikochrstphrchvz: i found a setting that said language support needed to update and install stuff...running it now....re the file name they didn't have quotes in them originally either04:31
chrstphrchvzhastiko, you're probably in the right place. was about to suggest https://help.ubuntu.com/16.04/ubuntu-help/prefs-language-install.html but steps would have varied for xubuntu anyways04:33
TGVoidBen64: Would the image gradually disappear as more raw files are recovered?04:34
RomanLier-oh, really?04:35
RomanLier-more than half an hour for the upgrade :/04:35
KenrinHah,  whatever mirror you were using was probably out of date if its that bad04:35
RomanLier-kenrin Argentina server04:36
hastikochrstphrchvz: its a super slow dl so will get back to you with the results...thanks for helping04:36
RomanLier-oh, now it says 1 hour04:37
hastikomight you know why the IRC name mention beep won't work after I installed 16.04? system settings and irc settings are normal04:37
chrstphrchvzhastiko, unless your connection is slow you might want to make sure you've got a fast mirror04:37
hastikoI have 1mbps dl...its me :)04:38
RomanLier-me: 150 kB/s04:38
chrstphrchvzhastiko, I believe some mirrors are still slower than that04:38
KenrinI feel spoiled with a 1 gig connection04:38
hastikoRomanLier: I shouldn't complain then sorry04:39
RomanLier-oh now it's 11004:39
RomanLier-don't worry i got used to it04:39
TGVoidBen64: And is it risky to recover files directly from the drive opposed to imaging it first/04:39
hastikoI had 150 mbps but moved to country...hate it04:39
RomanLier-oh here there is no internet at all in the country04:40
chrstphrchvzthe default ubuntu mirror was always up to date, but always slower than whatever local hosting company's mirror.04:40
KenrinWell, I hope that works.  I'll be back in an hour I have to drive home04:41
Ben64TGVoid: yes! like i said thats why you make an image, find some free space and just do it04:41
RomanLier-ok, kenrin, thank you04:41
YankDownUnderTGVoid, If you "image" a drive, you can use different tools to recover from the "image" - therefore reducing the possible/probable risk to damaging the "original" - and you can also make a copy of the "image" so that you can make use of different recovery tools; it's a "forensics" basic to do exactly that.04:41
chrstphrchvzhastiko, are you using freenode webchat? go to menu in upper left corner, options, make sure "Beep on activity:" is checked04:42
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TGVoidBen64: YankDownUnder My image so far is 875 GB and it's a 1 TB drive04:43
chrstphrchvzhastiko, or are you using a desktop irc client?04:43
YankDownUnderTGVoid, The if you're in a quandry as far as "space" is concerned, you may want to consider what is a priority. Either which, you can utilise "live" forensic distros - like "Caine" - recover as much as you require - again, though, in recovering stuff from a damaged file system, you do run the risk of hosing the file system and rendering it "toast"...you know what I mean?04:45
TGVoidYankDownUnder: Would it be a good idea to make an image, reformat the corrupted drive, then getting the files out of the image and putting it on the formatted drive?04:48
YankDownUnderTGVoid, That is a decision YOU would have to make; it would depend on your priorities, hmm? If you can "afford" to make the image, and also make a copy of the image (redundancy is a good thing) - and you're happy with knowing that you've created a great image, well, I don't really see a reason why - AFTER you've created an image - of not reformatting (several times just to be sure) the drive - for immediate usage...04:51
TGVoidYankDownUnder: Is it possible to mount the image and copy the files that I need to my external drive?04:59
[Saint]Absolutely.05:00
[Saint]There would be no reason in suggesting it or wanting to do so if you could not.05:00
TGVoid[Saint]: Me?05:01
[Saint]Yes. You.05:01
YankDownUnderTGVoid, Spot on, bro.05:02
TGVoidYankDownUnder: Is it risky?05:03
YankDownUnderTGVoid, Mounting the image? No, bro. It's only an image. You only want to "read" from that image - and especially as in most instances, it's going to be mounted as "read only", you'll be right.05:04
TGVoidYankDownUnder: How do I know when the image is done?05:04
YankDownUnderTGVoid, Well, being that I have no clue as to what you're using to create the image, it's hard to say, bro.05:05
TGVoidYankDownUnder: I'm using GNU ddrescue05:05
TGVoidYankDownUnder: Here's the command I used: sudo ddrescue -n from to (From being internal, to being external drive)05:06
TGVoidYankDownUnder: Here's what Terminal says: http://paste.ubuntu.com/1679410005:08
TGVoidYankDownUnder: Got any idea?05:12
YankDownUnderTGVoid, Well, matey, you're going to sit and wait, then aren't ya? :) -> let it take as long as it takes...patience...time to have a few coffees?05:12
TGVoidYankDownUnder: Time to take a nap :P05:13
YankDownUnderTGVoid, Well, there ya go! Naps are free...all is good. It'll finish when it finishes, and nothing you can do or say will make it move any faster than it already is moving, true? Yep...therefore, naps are good. Coolbeans.05:14
* [Saint] hasn't heard 'coolbeans' since the 1990s.05:15
preciseI say coolbeans all the fuckin time lol05:15
TGVoidThat's what my history teacher says lol05:16
YankDownUnderI'm just old.05:16
TGVoidIt's 12 AM, so I'll probs be on tomorrow instead. I spent all night yesterday on this PC and I've been super tired today. Thanks for all your help, and have a good night/day/week/month/century haha05:17
preciseSee you next eon TGVoid05:18
* YankDownUnder looks at the clock05:18
preciseYeah, time flies when your fucking with computers05:18
YankDownUnderAh...yes...apparently time is different in different geographic locations...05:18
preciselol05:19
preciseYou in Oz?05:19
preciseYankDownUnder?05:19
TGVoidBefore I go, do I need to disable sleep mode in order for the thing to go on without stopping?05:20
YankDownUnderprecise, I hope so. Unless I've been transported somewhere else without knowing it...which COULD be the case.05:20
[Saint]'matey' and liberal use of 'bro' would seem to indicate Australasia.05:20
preciseI was just going off of his nick: 'YankDownUnder'05:20
YankDownUnderSaint_Is_, Spot on.05:20
preciseDownUnder being Australia :P05:20
[Saint]Could also be a hilarious masturbation euphemism. ;)05:21
[Saint]errr...I mean, on-topic things.05:21
YankDownUnderThe area that I live in, however, would appear to be NOT Australia - most of the time...05:21
[Saint]*nods*05:21
HappyHoboI've come looking for wisdom and guidance.05:22
preciseYe find none here, only goats05:22
HappyHoboWise goats that can guide me perhaps?05:22
YankDownUnder...goats, goats, and more goats.05:22
preciseWe goats do know a thing or two about Ubuntu05:23
TGVoidWell, bye for reals! It's been a great and frustrating time!05:23
preciseBaaaaaaahy TGVoid05:23
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Guest84845is this freenode?05:23
preciseno, it is paidnode05:23
Guest84845sure05:23
preciseJK what's up Guest*05:24
precise?05:24
YankDownUnder"Paidnode" - hehehehehe...yeah...05:24
Guest84845just installed 16.04 ubuntu05:24
HappyHoboI installed a buntu derived distribution alongside my former distribution.  I used the same username and when I went to use the other distribution it did not associate this name with the new distribution.05:24
preciseYall didn't pay to get on here...?05:24
Guest84845:)05:24
HappyHoboIt is ChaletOS which is based on xubuntu which is based on ubuntu.05:24
* YankDownUnder checks credit card payments05:25
preciseIf you have a dual boot, they are two totally different filesystems, etc with different credentials, etc...05:25
YankDownUnderOMG I paid for this? I want my money back! ;)05:25
chrstphrchvzI paraphrase others when I say "no foul language on #ubuntu, please" :^)05:25
lotuspsychje!ot05:25
ubottu#ubuntu is the Ubuntu support channel, for all Ubuntu-related support questions. Please register with NickServ (see /msg ubottu !register) and use #ubuntu-offtopic for other topics (though our !guidelines apply there too). Thanks!05:25
lotuspsychjekeep it support related guys05:25
preciseSorry, will do.05:26
HappyHoboHow can I merge the two?05:26
[Saint]...wut?05:26
preciseHappyHobo: I don't understand, you want like a shared /home or something?05:26
Guest84845so theres no xchat under 16.0405:26
lotuspsychjeHappyHobo: we only support official ubuntu flavors05:26
lotuspsychje!xchat | Guest8484505:26
ubottuGuest84845: xchat and xchat-gnome have not had stable releases in years. xchat was removed from Ubuntu for 16.04. Consider using hexchat instead, which is actively developed and available in 14.04 onwards.05:26
Guest84845awwww05:27
HappyHoboOK fine I'm using xubuntu.  How can I share a home between  two.the05:27
[Saint]Nice try.05:27
Guest84845hehe HappyHobo05:27
preciseMay I suggest irssi? It is a bit of a learning curve, but it is amazing.05:27
Guest84845hmmm05:27
Ben64Guest84845: sorry it doesn't work like that05:27
Guest84845ive heard of it05:27
Guest84845i think ill try it soon05:27
Guest84845for now ill stick to hexchat05:27
Guest84845damn i liked xchat its traditional to me05:28
chrstphrchvzlotuspsychje, I stand corrected on the packaging of xchat, thanks05:28
HappyHoboIs it possible?05:28
* Guest84845 tackles Ben64 05:28
lotuspsychjeHappyHobo: we only support official ubuntu flavors05:28
Ben64HappyHobo: you're not on ubuntu, so go to the support channel for your distro05:28
Bashing-omHappyHobo: Sharing a /home as configs file may differ is not a good idea .05:28
Guest84845purple irc05:29
simlaHello, I'm wondering if anyone can help me with a question I posted on askubuntu. I haven't had much response there. It's pretty obscure.05:29
Guest84845not sure what that is05:29
simlahttp://askubuntu.com/questions/778458/change-keyboard-layout-shortcut-stopped-working-after-updates-yesterday05:29
Ben64Guest84845: sounds like pidgin stuff05:29
Guest84845not familiar with pidgin either05:29
HappyHoboBashing-om:  I can see where that could be problematic but I want them to have the same .config05:29
SeveasGuest84845: haxchat is based on xchat05:30
Ben64HappyHobo: go to the correct support channel regardless05:30
Guest84845yes i was going to ask something05:30
Guest84845are the files similar in hexchat/xchat05:30
Guest84845like the configuration05:30
HappyHoboLinux has enough division as it is Ben64 let's not further draw the line.05:30
Ben64then go to ##linux05:30
Guest84845if anything i want to just copy the settings05:30
Ben64this is an ubuntu specific channel05:31
lotuspsychje!support | HappyHobo05:31
ubottuHappyHobo: The official ubuntu support channel is #ubuntu. Also see http://ubuntu.com/support and http://ubuntuforums.org and http://askubuntu.com05:31
HappyHoboYou're a dick.\05:31
Guest84845!help05:31
ubottuPlease don't ask to ask a question, simply ask the question (all on ONE line and in the channel, so that others can read and follow it easily). If anyone knows the answer they will most likely reply. :-) See also !patience05:31
Guest84845lol HappyHobo05:31
Seveassimla: what's the output of gsettings get org.gnome.desktop.input-sources xkb-options05:31
Ben64no, you're the one coming into the wrong channel05:31
lotuspsychje!language | HappyHobo stop please05:31
ubottuHappyHobo stop please: The main Ubuntu channels require that you speak in calm, polite English. For other languages, please visit https://wiki.ubuntu.com/IRC/ChannelList05:31
Guest84845brb05:31
HappyHoboYou're the reason why linux will never overcome windows.05:31
Guest84845lol05:31
Ben64nope05:31
HappyHobowhat a dick05:31
Ben64goes into an import only repair shop, WHY WONT YOU FIX MY FORD MUSTANG05:31
Guest84845lol05:32
lotuspsychje!ops | HappyHobo05:32
ubottuHappyHobo: Help! Channel emergency! (ONLY use this trigger in emergencies) - Pici, Myrtti, jrib, Amaranth, tonyyarusso, Nalioth, lamont, CarlK, elky, mneptok, PriceChild, Tm_T, jpds, ikonia, Flannel, genii, wgrant, stdin, h00k, IdleOne, nhandler, Jordan_U, popey, Corey, ocean, cprofitt, djones, Madpilot, gnomefreak, lhavelund, k1l, rww, phunyguy, bazhang, chu05:32
SeveasBen64: I drove to mexico and back, that counts as importing! :)05:32
Ben64:p05:32
HappyHobodo you support Ubuntu Mate?05:33
Ben64yep, because it's an official ubuntu flavor05:33
[Saint]Yes, Bro.05:33
SeveasBen64: also, is there really such a thing as an 'import only repair shop'? Never heard of it.05:33
Ben64yeah there is05:33
HappyHoboxubuntu is such a shitty, fucking name at least chalet sounds decent05:33
[Saint]Seveas: Try owning a SAAB - never again...05:33
lotuspsychjeHappyHobo: stop the swearing, you will get banned05:34
HappyHoboI'm frustrated05:34
Ben64Seveas: it actually only does japanese imports, so it's not super accurate naming, but whatever05:34
HappyHoboelitists who do not want to see linux succeed05:34
Seveas[Saint]: dunno, this seems pretty nice: http://oneinnovation.se/flygvapnet/wp-content/uploads/2013/10/AJ-37-Viggen.jpg05:34
Ben64HappyHobo: dude. go to ##linux for general linux help05:34
[Saint]Ben64: there's a lot of euro-only import specialists as well.05:34
lotuspsychjeHappyHobo: you have been advised to seek the proper channel05:34
HappyHoboBen64 I have a hemorrhoid will you please suck it?05:35
Ben64thanks05:35
Seveasthanks elky05:35
Seveas*hug*05:35
[Saint]Am I the only one that ends up feeling kinda bad when that happens?05:35
Ben64yes05:36
[Saint]Poor dude's probably just lonely.05:36
elkylotuspsychje: next time try to explain why things are unsupported at the start perhaps, rather than just stopping them in their tracks05:36
Seveas[Saint]: don't. There's assholes all over the internet.05:36
lotuspsychjeelky: we explained him several times, scroll up please05:36
elkylotuspsychje: i scrolled up already, that's why i'm giving you advice.05:37
Seveaselky: when people immediately go into dickhead mode, the 'why' doesn't really help though05:37
Seveasthis one wasn't salvagable05:37
lotuspsychjeSeveas: +105:38
elkySeveas: more often than not, !ot as a response to an question makes situations go bad.05:38
[Saint]That's one of the reasons for my thinking he really wanted someone to spend attention, any attention, good or bad.05:38
[Saint]But perhaps he was just abrasive. Dunno.05:38
mumixamwhen running isc dhcpd does ipv4 and ipv6 have to be 2 sepratate processes/configs?05:39
[Saint]Gone now anyway.05:39
[Saint]elky: I think it doesn;t help that a lot of people don;t seem to get that it is someone actually triggering those responses.05:39
Seveasmumixam: according to the manpage they must be 2 separate processes indeed05:40
[Saint]From my point of view a lot of people seem to think this 'ubottu' guy suddenly interjects and gets all stroppy05:40
Seveas       -4     Run as a DHCP server. This is the default and cannot be combined with -6.05:40
Seveas       -6     Run as a DHCPv6 server. This cannot be combined with -4.05:40
elky[Saint]: we try to discourage using the bot if you can type the answer yourself05:40
chrstphrchvzI don't use IRC often. Is there a way to lookup recent discussion that's not yet logged but still from before I joined, or is it OK to ask what's been discussed again?05:40
[Saint]I think he was yelling at the mystical 'ubottu' character believing them to be sentient.05:40
Seveas!logs05:40
ubottuOfficial channel logs can be found at http://irclogs.ubuntu.com/ . LoCo channels are now logged there too. Meeting logs from meetingology at http://ubottu.com/meetingology/logs/05:40
elkychrstphrchvz: irclogs.ubuntu.com05:40
mumixamok Seveas thx05:40
Seveaschrstphrchvz: http://irclogs.ubuntu.com/ is where you can find previous discussions05:41
elky[Saint]: that's enough thanks05:41
Seveas[Saint]: the bot will tell you he's not sentient05:41
Seveasubottu: are you stroppy?05:41
ubottuSeveas: I am only a bot, please don't think I'm intelligent :)05:41
lotuspsychjechrstphrchvz: there is also #ubuntu-discuss to discuss ubuntu related topics05:41
[Saint]Seveas: only if you reply to it directly.05:42
[Saint]Calling it a dick doesn't work.05:42
chrstphrchvzSeveas, thanks, but I'm talking about discussion that's "in limbo": before I joined, but not yet in the irclog. Do I wait for the log to update, or is it OK for me to ask again for details I missed?05:42
Seveaschrstphrchvz: hmm, I thought the logs were pretty immediate.05:42
Seveashmm no, they're at least half an hour behind.05:43
Seveaschrstphrchvz: to actually answer your question: sore, you can ask people to repeat things if you were having a conversation with them and suddenly dropped out.05:44
Seveass/sore/sure/05:44
[Saint]I could pull from /my/ logs?05:45
[Saint]Would that assist you?05:45
elky[Saint]: sure, lots of people have personal logs, you might want to discuss it with him in private message though05:45
chrstphrchvz[Saint], good idea, maybe have someone /msg me recent stuff to fill me in. I would appreciate that.05:45
chrstphrchvz([Saint], elky: don't need anything yet, have been on for a few hours though, thanks)05:47
HappyHoboI came back to apologize to everyone especially ben64.  Have a wonderful night.05:47
elkychrstphrchvz: to be honest by the time you find someone to help you'll probably have just been better off waiting05:47
chrstphrchvzI also posted my original question to askubuntu since logging on: http://askubuntu.com/questions/778905/syncookies-disabled-despite-setting-in-sysctl-conf . (Didn't new questions on askubuntu show up on irc? or maybe I'm thinking of a different channel…)05:51
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akishi all. i am facing the same issue: http://ubuntuforums.org/showthread.php?t=2323320. Any idea or help?05:53
akisi also read this: https://bugs.launchpad.net/ubuntu/+source/update-manager/+bug/158662505:53
ubottuLaunchpad bug 1586625 in update-manager (Ubuntu) "Update notification but no update manager icon in launcher ?" [Undecided,Confirmed]05:53
Loshki!manual05:56
ubottuThe Ubuntu Manual will help you become familiar with everyday tasks such as surfing the web, listening to music and scanning documents. With an emphasis on easy to follow instructions, it is suitable for all levels of experience. http://ubuntu-manual.org/05:56
dramachrstphrchvz, i found this ymmv http://serverfault.com/questions/400193/enable-tcp-syncookies-even-after-reboot05:57
Cyber_Akuma-TempAre there any applications for Ubuntu to read Windows DMP files?05:57
chrstphrchvzdrama, awesome! I guess I never googled "tcp_syncookies after reboot" specifically, will check it out05:59
chrstphrchvzdrama, I would have to try later to see if that answer has any effect. I'm also not sure if it is persistent while the system is up, i.e. if syncookies get disabled again, then I might resort to putting such a solution in cron.06:04
srulilubuntu 16.04 when trying to start NetworkManager i get an error "NetworkManager: failed at step namespace spawning /usr/sbin/NetworkManager: invalid argument"  I found the bug in a debian mailing list and the solution was to comment out a few lines in NetworkManager.service the line i commented out to get it to work is ProtectSystem=true, my question is this safe? also even after its started i cant get nm-applet to start06:08
NoCodeshould a usb be fat32 or fat16 for an image to go on it and boot?06:09
reisioNoCode: for an image it won't matter06:09
NoCodedevice doesn't even show up now!06:11
NoCodewhat the hell man :(06:11
NoCodeI don't deserve this torture06:12
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otto?06:13
reisio?06:14
ottoQq pega ?06:14
KenrinFAT3206:15
NoCodeOh, just having major issues with my computer. :)06:15
NoCodeAnyway brb in a while06:15
dd_hi06:18
dd_I have problem installing docker in ubuntu server06:18
dd_I followed the guide at https://docs.docker.com/engine/installation/linux/ubuntulinux/ but ubuntu cannot see the docker engine packet?06:19
dd_http://pastebin.com/wGEeQfBU06:21
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daniele12457any suggestion?06:31
reisiodaniele12457: brush your teeth?06:32
KenrinWhy inrelease and not deb https://apt.dockerproject.org/repo ubuntu-xenial main ?06:35
reisioKenrin: hrmm?06:35
pamI'm trying to get a HP Laserjet Pro m401n to work with Ubuntu via a wireless connection.  Can't figure out what to do.  Any ideas?06:35
daniele12457Kenrin: it is Hit:4 https://apt.dockerproject.org/repo ubuntu-xenial Release06:38
reisiopam: http://hplipopensource.com/node/36506:38
coil6"The release of a pivotal historic recording such as this underscores the importance of our disconnecting from what used to be termed mainstream media. This term in itself is a misnomer; research reveals that 72% today harvest their news content from alternative online resources."06:38
reisiocoil6: ...06:39
srulii uninstalled NetworkManager i need to download the packages on different pc to reinstall, where do i donwload it from?06:39
Bashing-omsruli: Which release ?06:41
srulilubuntu 16.0406:41
Bashing-omsruli: http://packages.ubuntu.com/xenial/network-manager .06:42
fribMy wifi doesn't seem to update to the best available SSID.. how can I make it do that?06:46
NoCodeIs there a reason why my USB isn't showing up in my uefi?06:46
thekrynn_in the case where a stat * of a directory results in arg list too long, is there any faster way of achieving the same thing than ls -1 | xargs stat? (other than obviously changing the way the files are stored and sharding it into sub dirs)06:49
reisiodoes there need to be?06:49
ducasseNoCode: maybe you need to turn off secure boot?06:49
ducassethekrynn_: a for loop, maybe?06:50
thekrynn_like a files=`ls -1` for file in ${files}; do...06:50
thekrynn_?06:50
reisiothat's basically what xargs is06:51
reisioonly purpose built06:51
thekrynn_the loop takes longer for some reason06:51
reisio'cause it's a loop06:51
reisioif you cared about efficiency, you wouldn't have a thousand million loose files in a single dir06:51
thekrynn_its in the middle of being rewritten06:52
reisioso wait till its in the end of06:52
roryI'm using Ubuntu Gnome 16.04 and I have a couple of questions. (1) How do I disable hot corners? (2) How do I disable mouse acceleration?06:55
thekrynn_looks like find ./ -type f | xargs was considerably faster for some reason06:56
reisiothekrynn_: then find . -type f -exec will be even faster06:56
thebluesquirelhi06:56
reisio'lo06:56
thekrynn_reisio thanks, trying06:59
reisiorory: #ubuntu-gnome ? #gnome ?06:59
roryreisio: /join #ubuntu-gnome07:00
roryoops07:00
reisiokernel oops07:00
roryhey I got a big fat bug. a really big fat security type bug07:03
roryBy DEFAULT, the "Terminator" package in Ubuntu 16.04 will "group" new tabs07:03
roryWhat this means is that when you open a new tab and start typing things, everything you type gets entered into the first tab too07:04
roryespecialyl when the first tab is IRC07:04
roryIt didn't do this in Ubuntu 15.1007:04
roryCan someone install terminator and double check it isn't just me?07:05
roryIt's the "broadcast all" option which is on by default07:06
reisioso disable it?07:07
thebluesquirelI've been using terminator for like a year without any problems....07:07
roryI have disabled it reisio07:07
roryIt's an absolutely INSANE default07:07
roryand I just typed like 5 lines of spam including my sudo password into an IRC channel07:07
daniele12457Can anyone tell me how can I install docker in ubuntu server?07:08
daniele12457is the packet docker.io deprecated?07:08
reisiorory: live by the amateur software, die by the amateur software07:08
reisiohttps://bugs.launchpad.net/terminator07:08
reisiodaniele12457: packet?07:08
daniele12457reisio: with apt-get07:09
rorywhat ubuntu version daniele1245707:09
daniele12457rory: ubuntu 16.1407:09
daniele1245716 0407:09
reisiodaniele12457: what is it you want docker for07:09
rorydaniele12457: The official instructions are for 16.04 https://docs.docker.com/engine/installation/linux/ubuntulinux/07:09
daniele12457containers07:09
reisiodaniele12457: look into lxc instead07:09
roryreisio: Not very helpful.07:09
reisiorory: what's not?07:10
ktwoHi, where should i save *.jar files (programs) which are not installed by the package manager?07:10
thebluesquirelsudo apt-get install <name>07:10
reisioktwo: anyplace you like07:10
thebluesquirelI'm on mobile :(07:10
daniele12457rory: I followed the guide but I cant find docker-engine07:10
ktworeisio, yea but whats a reasonable way? should be called by multiple users07:10
daniele12457http://pastebin.com/wGEeQfBU07:10
reisioktwo: what should be called?07:10
ktwoI kinda am always confused about this on windows i put them under C:\programs07:10
ktwobut on linux its always a puzzle07:10
reisioktwo: you can put a wrapper into /usr/local/bin/ if you want ("java -jar /path/to/jar")07:11
reisioor modify all users' PATH variable07:11
reisioor make aliases or functions in .bashrc, etc.07:11
roryyeah that's weird daniele1245707:11
ktwook thanks :)07:11
rorydaniele12457: try #docker on this network as well07:12
daniele12457rory: I know, but that's a fresh install07:12
reisiothebluesquirel: ?07:12
ducassedaniele12457: if you have problems with the packages provided in docker's repo, ask them for help.07:13
daniele12457ducasse: will they help me?07:13
ducassedaniele12457: it's their packages.07:13
daniele12457ducasse: What's is the best way to ask them?07:14
daniele12457ducasse: ml or irc?07:14
ducassedaniele12457: no idea.07:14
daniele12457ok...07:14
fabriansttt07:15
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Guest82886!07:15
ducassedaniele12457: if you want help now you should try irc. mail could take a while.07:15
daniele12457ducasse: yeah in irc they are just ignoring me07:15
Guest82886damn07:16
Guest82886what do you need help with07:16
ducassedaniele12457: not really anything we can do about that.07:17
roryhttps://bugs.launchpad.net/terminator/+bug/158673407:18
ubottuLaunchpad bug 1586734 in Terminator ""Broadcast All" is on for new tabs by default" [Undecided,New]07:18
Guest82886well uh.. good luck everybody07:19
brianxdaniele12457: it's after midnight us time on saturday night.  you might have more luck during us business hours tuesday.07:20
daniele12457brianx: oh right :)07:21
brianxmonday is a us holiday.07:21
reisioyeah07:22
reisioit's when we celebrate all the people who died in the war that kept republicans as part of our country07:22
reisio"yay"07:22
reisioI think I'll boycott it07:22
rorythis channel stays pretty active 24/7 you don't need to come back in "US business hours" lol07:22
roryjust ask again in 1/2 hour07:22
brianxrory: it's not this channel.07:23
roryoh docker, right07:23
rorywell, same deal07:23
reisioit stays fairly active, but native english speaking as a whole online is the least active in about half an hour07:23
reisioall times preceding and following will be more active :p07:23
daniele12457reisio: :)07:24
daniele12457reisio: I will try to ask it again later07:24
daniele12457It is possible that the problem is caused by the 403 Forbidden in the InRelease directory http://apt.dockerproject.org/repo/dists/ubuntu-xenial/InRelease?07:28
rorysudo reboot07:31
akishi all. i am facing the same issue: http://ubuntuforums.org/showthread.php?t=2323320. Any idea or help?07:36
ducasseakis: you might want to explain your problem rather than expect people to go to a web page to read about it.07:39
akisducasse: no updates notifications since i install 16.04 (fresh installation) My settings are:Automatically check for updates: Daily - When there are security updates: Display immediately - When there are other updates: Display immediately07:41
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thekrynn_any reason why lzop listing headers looks like it's decompressing the whole file?07:46
thekrynn_gzip does it immediately07:46
coil6Loving the OS here guys.07:49
coil6Smooth sailing.07:50
baizoncoil6: nice :)07:50
coil6Sometimes I love my OS so much that I use my computer just for the sake of enjoying how smoothly it functions.07:51
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guillamecoucou07:51
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rorycoil6: I think you need a hobby :)08:18
rorycoil6: Do you have a support question btw? because #ubuntu-offtopic is where people chit-chat.08:20
coil6rory, You don't use IRC and browse the web just to enjoy the smoothness of your OS?08:20
coil6No. I just wanted to commend the developers.08:20
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sonu_nkHi , i am using FireFox to join webEx cisco .. but it is required java plugin.. how can i installl on unbuntu 14+08:23
roryhi sonu_nk I recommend you use this popular PPA to install Oracle Java. Type these commands in a terminal:08:29
rorysudo apt-add-repository ppa:webupd8team/java08:29
rorysudo apt-get update08:29
rorysudo apt-get install oracle-java8-installer08:29
rorysonu_nk: You'll need to restart Firefox when that's done.08:30
heliumwhen I run this command, I get this error 10mount: mount: unknown filesystem type 'aufs'08:31
heliumschroot -c trusty-i38608:31
roryhelium: You might need to install the aufs-tools package: "sudo apt-get update && sudo apt-get install aufs-tools"08:33
heliumW: Duplicate sources.list entry http://nightly.apt.ring.cx/ubuntu_14.04/ ring/main i386 Packages (/var/lib/apt/lists/nightly.apt.ring.cx_ubuntu%5f14.04_dists_ring_main_binary-i386_Packages)08:37
sonu_nkrory, we are connected  ?08:48
thinkyhello08:49
thinkyhow can i check for possible errors and fix automatically in ubuntu 16.04? i mean how can i check if my ubuntu system is running proper?08:50
ducassethinky: what do you mean by "possible errors"?08:55
thinkyducasse: i just want to check if ubuntu is running proper08:55
ducassethinky: read the logs.08:56
thinkyis there anything like windows error event viewer?08:56
thinkywhere are the logs:08:56
thinky?08:56
ducassei think gnome has a log viewer of sorts, but i don't know if it's installed by defaults. the logs are in /var/log.08:57
thinkythx ducasse i will check08:58
jattthinky: systemctl status09:00
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spiderhelooooo09:03
thinkyjatt: thx. it drawed a table in terminal09:03
thinky State: running      Jobs: 0 queued    Failed: 0 units09:03
jattthinky: here a good resource:09:04
jatthttps://www.digitalocean.com/community/tutorials/how-to-use-systemctl-to-manage-systemd-services-and-units09:04
thinkythx jatt09:04
jattwith systemctl you can check whether your system is properly running09:04
spiderit's the 1st time to be here09:05
spider!!!09:05
[Saint]Exciting stuff.09:05
thinkythank you jatt i am reading the documentation u posted09:09
thinkypasted*09:09
akisducasse: no updates notifications since i install 16.04 (fresh installation) My settings are:Automatically check for updates: Daily - When there are security updates: Display immediately - When there are other updates: Display immediately09:18
akisany help or any idea?09:18
akisi also read this: https://bugs.launchpad.net/ubuntu/+source/update-manager/+bug/158662509:18
ubottuLaunchpad bug 1586625 in update-manager (Ubuntu) "Update notification but no update manager icon in launcher ?" [Undecided,Confirmed]09:18
ducasseakis: if a bug has been filed all you can do is wait for it to be fixed. it might help if you add a comment that you too are affected.09:19
BluesKajHowdy folks09:22
sonu_nkhi/... i am facing some critical issue or its not an issue : http://paste.ubuntu.com/16797746/09:28
sonu_nkwith this for n in `ls /var/lib/apt/lists/*gpg`; do echo "$n" ; gpg --list-packets "$n" | grep FB510D557CC3E840; done09:28
sonu_nki got 4 .gpg .i think it should only 109:29
samgoodyHi all. According to https://wiki.ubuntu.com/Releases, the current LTS release is 16.0409:32
samgoodyOh, NM09:33
cglr#ubuntu-tr09:33
samgoodyInstead, let me just say thanks - you guys make the #1 linux distro for servers!09:33
enebreaccess #ubuntu-fr-moderation add enebre  +OVeiortv09:38
knbdgbmy postfix now listen on 25, i can connect from localhost console, but from outside, telnet ip port stock at trying state  and unable to connect to server09:39
knbdgbhow can i fix that?09:39
YankDownUnderknbdgb, Have you checked the settings of your firewall (ufw) and also your postfix configurations? Just wondering...09:41
mogajI want to find and copy files from one folder to another if the file name matches from the list of names in another file. How can i do that. I tried folliwing but it did not work out.  http://paste.ubuntu.com/16798115/09:44
knbdgbYankDownUnder, yeah i checked it.09:44
YankDownUndermogaj, "man cp"09:44
knbdgb25/tcp allowed from everywhere09:44
YankDownUnderknbdgb, And all this changed after you did an upgrade? Or what changed since it last worked properly?09:45
knbdgbit worked fine, about 1month ago09:46
ducasseknbdgb: maybe postfix binds to 127.0.0.1?09:46
knbdgbi never upgrade anything09:46
YankDownUnderknbdgb, So nothing, absolutely nothing has changed - to the best of your knowledge - it just started to act like this without intervention...?09:47
blabla_01hi to all09:48
knbdgbi think i have some trouble with firewall.09:48
YankDownUnderknbdgb, Have you tried just shutting down the firewall and seeing if that affects the situation?09:49
knbdgbwhen i listen on 8090, nc -l ip 8090. the telnet ip 8090 from outside is fail to connect.09:49
knbdgbyeah, i reboot my server 3 times.09:49
blabla_01there is a way to compare file system directory tree before and after an sh installation? (i can't view directory tree in that package)09:49
blabla_01maybe saving results to a file09:50
YankDownUnderknbdgb, Didn't really have to reboot the server - you can just restart the service(s)...but I digress...you may want to shut down the firewall and double check the ports and configurations.09:50
netcrimeHow can you check what permissions user has ?10:02
mojtabaHi, I am following these instructions, to install keepassx from the source code. https://github.com/keepassx/keepassx10:02
mojtabaBut the problem is that, when I execute make in the build steps, it gives me: make: *** No targets specified and no makefile found.  Stop.10:03
mojtabaDo you know how should I install it?!10:03
mojtabaWhat does make [-jX] mean?10:04
YankDownUndermojtaba, Generally, the process is: "sudo ./configure && make && make install"10:04
ducassemojtaba: -j specifies the number of parallel jobs to run.10:05
brunch875Hello guys! I installed evolution with apt-get and I'm surprised it didn't install evolution-data-server-online-accounts. Does apt-get not install recommended by default? Or is this not recommended on ubuntu? Any ideas on what I should be installing?10:05
mojtabaYankDownUnder: could you please check that URL.10:05
brunch875I'm tempted to install evolution* but that might be overkill10:05
mojtabaDo you know why executing make, gives me that error?10:06
YankDownUndermojtaba, Which URL are you referring to, bro?10:06
ducassemojtaba: did you run configure?10:06
MonkeyDustbrunch875  try   sudo apt-get install evolution-data-server-online-accounts10:06
mojtabaYankDownUnder: https://github.com/keepassx/keepassx10:06
mojtabaducasse: There is no such file.10:07
\9ducasse: it uses cmake10:07
\9mojtaba: are you sure that cmake ran successfully?10:07
brunch875MonkeyDust: Yeah I figured that out. But is there something else basic like this which I <should> install?10:07
mojtaba\9: Yes10:07
\9if it did there should be a Makefile in the build folder10:07
YankDownUndermojtaba, Mate, you do know that there are other password managers - specifically built for ubuntu/debian systems, right?10:07
mojtabaYankDownUnder: like what?10:08
\9mojtaba: why are you building keepassx from source code anyway?10:08
YankDownUndermojtaba, Look, bro...I don't use that stuff...it's a security breach by using one in the first place...but you're not me, and I'm not you...so, if you're comfortable using a "database" to contain your passwords, by all means, take a look...10:09
MonkeyDustbrunch875  simply install what you want, there's nothing you *should* install10:09
mojtaba\9: What should I do?10:09
ducasseYankDownUnder: keepassx is a fork for linux systems. but i don't understand why he needs to build it.10:09
\9mojtaba: the easiest way is to install it from the repo, like specified in the debian step10:09
bazhang!info keepass2 | mojtaba10:09
ubottumojtaba: keepass2 (source: keepass2): Password manager. In component universe, is optional. Version 2.32+dfsg-1 (xenial), package size 1229 kB, installed size 2926 kB10:09
mojtababazhang: keepass2 gives me error, and does not run in my system.10:10
mojtaba\9: It installs the old version.10:10
\9okay so you need a newer one?10:10
* YankDownUnder is happy with keeping passwords in his head10:10
ducassemojtaba: sudo apt install keepassx10:11
\9YankDownUnder: we got your point, thank you10:11
mojtaba\9: keepassx 210:11
setoeto1210:11
mojtabaducasse: It install .4 version10:11
\9isn't that in a separate keepass2 package?10:11
setobleh10:11
ducassemojtaba: look for a ppa, there are several.10:12
mojtabaducasse: Is that secure?10:12
setogot a issue here on a live dvd/usb boot kernel panic-not syncing: VFS: unable to mount root fs on unknown block(0,0)10:14
setomy comp boots fine from the internal ssd though any one got any ideas how to fix?10:14
MonkeyDust!info keepass2 | mojtaba10:19
ubottumojtaba: keepass2 (source: keepass2): Password manager. In component universe, is optional. Version 2.32+dfsg-1 (xenial), package size 1229 kB, installed size 2926 kB10:19
mojtabaMonkeyDust: I have keepass2 installed, but the problem is that it does not work.10:19
ubuntu264I get a black screen after I select "try ubuntu without installing" or "install ubuntu"10:23
zamaliphehi i'm using kernel 4.5.5 as my main kernel how can i remove the default ubntu kernel of 4.2.XX and force ubuntu to use 4.5.5 as main kernel10:23
ubuntu264I think the problem is that I've just built a desktop with a GTX 1080, and ubuntu 16.04's kernel doesn't support it10:24
QuiftHi, I'm having some weird problems. New install of 14.04. I cannot seem to install any new packages nor update to 16.04.10:27
QuiftI don't even know where to start looking for a solution.10:27
MonkeyDustQuift  as of july you will be able to upgrade LTS > LTS, when 16.04.1 is released10:28
rattlebattle79sudo apt-get update ?10:28
Quiftsudo-apt-get update gives error messge10:28
Quiftutopic.tar missing10:28
rattlebattle79sudo apt-get update or sudo-apt-get update?10:28
MonkeyDustQuift  utopic is dead10:28
QuiftI can't install that package either10:28
rattlebattle79what does the error message say?10:28
MonkeyDustQuift  delete the utopic source(s), then try again10:29
Quiftthere seems to be a lot of comlaining about the mesa drivers10:29
MonkeyDustQuift  pastebin the output of    cat /etc/apt/sources.list | grep -v ^#10:32
setowell figured out my issue with my live cd i think10:41
setothe md5sum was way the hell off10:41
setoso seems like my torrent dl was no good10:41
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KeyboardNotFoundIs there way to disable my AMD GPU in ubuntu 16.04, because wrong driver machine doesn't cool properly.10:46
Cyber_Akuma-TempAre there any applications for Ubuntu to read Windows DMP files?10:49
MonkeyDustCyber_Akuma-Temp  what are dmp files?10:50
setomemory dump10:50
setofrom bsods and the like10:50
Cyber_Akuma-Tempmemory dumps when windows crashes10:50
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setoit should just be a formated text file if i recall thats all it is10:51
setopossibly compressed10:51
Cyber_Akuma-TempWindows suddenly started crashing seconds within boot so I can't read the files on windows10:51
abhigenie92how can I check if I have installed the correct driver for my graphics card.10:51
abhigenie92My driver manager is not working.10:51
Cyber_Akuma-TempSo i wanted to try to read them on aubuntu liveusb10:51
abhigenie92Debugging info: http://paste.ubuntu.com/16799837/10:51
awerMay be the wrong place to ask but can anyone tell by looking at the sring what it is encrypted with? im trying to decrypt it and running out of ideas. $P$BZDQ99hw.NlSNEGVZx0IppNcbD.Fc5.10:52
setohave you tried just opening in a text editor?10:52
bazhangtry the ##crypto channel awer10:52
awerbazhang: thanks10:52
abhigenie92any suggestions folks?10:53
setofrom another site10:53
setoI always used this tool here to diagnose Windows BSODs: http://www.nirsoft.net/utils/blue_screen_view.html10:53
setoI'd guess you could run it through WINE. You could also let your brother run the tool himself and take screenshots and have him send you those instead of the dump files.10:53
setohttp://www.overclock.net/t/1492297/solved-can-i-somehow-read-windows-dump-files-in-linux10:54
Cyber_Akuma-Tempapparently they aren't text according to this: http://computer.forensikblog.de/en/2006/03/dmp-file-structure.html10:54
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setoso basically run the windows tool under wine and open the file10:54
R13oseImportant Software Updates keep popping up in the notifications area, what does that mean?10:54
setoother option copy the dmps to a external drive and open on another windows machine10:55
Cyber_Akuma-TempNever used wine before, would i have to install that or would ubuntu come with it? I know how to use the package manager, but i have no idea how wine works or how you run windows appliations under it10:55
MonkeyDustR13ose  ubuntu software is constantly being updated and improved ... if you don't want the notifications so often, you can set that in the update options10:56
setoneed to install10:56
setofrom there you just open your fave file manager and right click run with other application choose wine10:56
setoor .wine somedangfile.exe10:56
Cyber_Akuma-TempSo i would right-click the exe and choose wine?10:56
setofrom the directory where its at10:57
setoyep10:57
setopretty much10:57
Cyber_Akuma-Tempok10:57
Cyber_Akuma-Temp... I am really in trouble if ubuntu starts crashing too10:57
setomost non graphical stuff works perfect by graphical i mean non 3d etc10:57
setoreg stuff not needing advanced graphics tends to work well10:57
setoso it should work just fine for the windows dmp tool10:58
Cyber_Akuma-TempAs long as it's not the cpu, motherboard, or ram. testing the ram right now, but I am pretty sure it's a software issue10:58
setodo you manage to catch any of the bsod/dump on crash10:59
KeyboardNotFoundIs there way to disable my AMD GPU in ubuntu 16.04, because wrong driver machine doesn't cool properly/10:59
setolike say irq not less or equal to etc?10:59
Cyber_Akuma-TempSome, but they kept changing10:59
R13oseMonkeyDust: yes but where do I set the notification?10:59
setoif you see that then it is most probably a driver problem10:59
Cyber_Akuma-Tempit wasn't that10:59
Cyber_Akuma-Tempone sec10:59
setoif you see ref to ram and it changes all the time 50 50 is a ram or as you said software issue11:00
setothe irq error is 99.9% driver problems11:00
Cyber_Akuma-Temptwo of the ones i caught were BAD_POOL_CALLER and BAD_POOL_HEADER, but there were others'11:01
MonkeyDustR13ose  in the system settings > sources & updates11:02
R13oseMonkeyDust: I don't see anything about notification?11:02
setoahh another driver related error11:02
setoyou should be able to go in to safe mode and uninstall the drivers for say video sound and network11:03
FrankJorHello, I am a bit of a linux newbie, wetting my toes. I have set up an ubuntu server, but I don't know how to install libraries on it, the commands such as apt-get doesn't work. Google is very little help, so could anyone in here help a little with the right way?11:03
Cyber_Akuma-Tempsafe mode bluescreens too11:03
setothen reinstall 1 by 1 with versons from say 1 verson older11:03
setoyech11:03
setogreat11:03
setosafe mode cmd prompt only11:04
Cyber_Akuma-TempI was barely able to restore a previous restore point trhough command prompt.... but that didn't help either11:04
Cyber_Akuma-Tempwhen i rebooted still crashes11:04
setofrom cmd prompt type explorer and hit enter11:04
setothat will start the windows shell11:04
setoand leave you witht he absolute bare min of drivers etc loading11:04
Cyber_Akuma-Tempthat loads less than standard safe mode?11:05
setoyeh11:06
setoit is like the absolute bare min needed for windows to boot11:06
MonkeyDustR13ose  look for    'automatically check for updates'11:06
setoto compare with linux it would be starting x serv from the cli11:06
setoif it bsods from safe mode cmd only11:07
setoits a wrap for that os install11:07
Cyber_Akuma-TempHopefully I can find SOMETHING up with the memory dump files once this ramtest is done11:08
setoyou should be able to do a "upgrade" over top the current os install and not loose data (txt photos etc) but do back up11:08
Cyber_Akuma-TempThat might point me to what's causing it11:08
Cyber_Akuma-TempI installed two drivers in the last 3-4 days, going to try uninstalling those (if i can before it bsods) first to see if that fixes it11:08
setovid or sound drivers i bet11:09
setobasically the cpu is trying to call for resources not avail11:09
setomeaning they are in use by something else11:09
setothis use to be extremely common back in the day of needing to manually set irqs11:10
Cyber_Akuma-Tempone was an update ot the video drivers, and the first attempt crashed when installing so i an very sure it's likely them11:10
Cyber_Akuma-Tempthe other was a virtual cd drive11:10
setosound and vid would often fight over the same irq. The fix then was to install the sound card dead last and net work after vid11:10
setokill the virt cd11:10
setoesp if daemon tools11:11
Cyber_Akuma-TempHeh, i remember having to mess with irqs back on windows 9511:11
setoit is a very guilty program lol11:11
Cyber_Akuma-Tempit's slysoft11:11
setoit loves to cause bsods11:11
Cyber_Akuma-Tempi don't like daemon anymore, causes issues11:11
setook still remove the virst cd to test11:11
setoim betting it is the cause11:11
setoyou can just break the virst cd drive by renaming the exe for it11:12
setowindows will cry about it on start up about a missing file etc11:12
setojust dismiss that box11:12
setoif it boots then you know you got the cause11:12
Cyber_Akuma-TempGoing to remove both, but I would bet it's the video drivers, since the virtual cd was working fine for a week, and as soon as I updated the video drivers... which glitched at first, it started bsoding11:12
setohmm id remove both11:13
Cyber_Akuma-TempThough the bsods didn't happen until after i rebooted11:13
setod new vid rivers install first then virt cd11:13
setobasically your gettng a irq conflict ala win 9511:13
setosame type of deal11:13
seto2 devices want the same resources11:14
setoand are crashing the system11:14
Cyber_Akuma-Temphmm....i have a small idea what elseit might be then, will have to look into that11:14
setoif the virt cd is done last then what happens is it will call for a dif irq11:14
KeyboardNotFoundIs there way to disable my AMD GPU in ubuntu 16.04, because wrong driver machine doesn't cool properly11:16
netcrimeGunicorn is installed but not installed.. Error: http://prntscr.com/b9rdaw  I'm runing ubuntu 14.04 Virtualenv python3.4 | I have problem that even if i install gunicorn with pip3 from virtualenv activated it still uses python2.7 error log: prntscr.com/b9rclz  | Why this might happen and how can I Fix it ?11:17
MonkeyDustKeyboardNotFound  is this useful (i use intel myself) ... http://www.omgubuntu.co.uk/2016/03/ubuntu-drops-amd-catalyst-fglrx-driver-16-0411:18
MonkeyDusts/use/have*11:19
vakhi all11:20
vak"systemctl list-unit-files|grep enabled" contains both network-manager.service and the NetworkManager.service is it OK?.. (Ubuntu 16 here)11:20
R13oseMonkeyDust: thanks11:20
MonkeyDustR13ose  yw11:21
Inferushi all - question for you, im on ubuntu 16 and I'm trying to get my audio to work out of my onboard sound. I have a gfx card with HDMI as well, but I am using a DVI->VGA connector, so I want the audio to come out of the onboard sound via my speakers. When I go into sound settings, everything looks fine and the audio bar is bouncing up and down on the onboard, but then there is no sound. Speakers work fine with my mobile phon11:21
Inferuse so they're ok.11:21
xdevnullGuys, i need help with install WIFI drivers. I've asked for that once. but i forgot how to do it11:22
xdevnullAs i remember i have broadbandcom something like this11:22
xdevnullMy laptop HP Pavillion11:22
Inferusxdevnull:  have you downloaded them11:22
R13oseHow come the network manager doesn't startup sometimes?11:22
xdevnullInferus, Not yet. In HP Page they don't have official drivers for ubuntu11:22
Inferuschances are they dont xdevnull11:23
InferusI've never had to install wifi drivers for laptops, they always "just work" out of the box11:23
xdevnullWill here they aren't11:24
Inferusdo they show up in your devices11:24
xdevnullStupid versions of stuff. In windows 7 actually (they should be out-of-the-box) as well, But i can't even install them11:24
KeyboardNotFoundMonkeyDust, I already updated to 16.04, I only need way to disable the AMD GPU and continue using integrated INTE L GPU11:24
xdevnullRealtek RTL8723BE/RTL8188EE 802.11b/g/n Wireless LAN Drivers11:24
BluesKajInferus, open alsamixer in the terminal and make sure auto mute is disabled by using the down arrow key if it's enabled. That's a start at least.11:25
InferusBluesKaj: one sec11:25
FrankJorCould anyone invite me to the ubuntu beginners channel then?11:26
InferusBluesKaj: all volume is at max11:26
vakxdevnull: having massive troubles with RTL8723 here11:26
MonkeyDustFrankJor  ask your question here and wait11:26
xdevnullvak, Same thing?11:27
BluesKajInferus, look for the automute on the far right, also make sure no volume ctrls are muted (MM)11:27
FrankJorok, I did. Was unsure if this was the place.11:28
vakxdevnull: notebook is Lenova Yoga, but all last 3 years always troubles with WiFi.11:28
InferusBluesKaj: some have got MM11:28
Inferushow do i take the MM off11:28
MonkeyDustFrankJor  hit the up arrow to repeat the question, in one line11:28
BluesKajuse the M key11:28
xdevnullvak, well if i figure it out. I'll hit u up with the link11:28
xdevnulli remember someone helped me here..11:28
FrankJorHello, I am a bit of a linux newbie, wetting my toes. I have set up an ubuntu server, but I don't know how to install libraries on it, the commands such as apt-get doesn't work. Google is very little help, so could anyone in here help a little with the right way?11:29
vakxdevnull: what rtl8723 driver are sitting on?11:29
xdevnullRealtek RTL8723BE/RTL8188EE 802.11b/g/n Wireless LAN Drivers11:29
MonkeyDustFrankJor  apt-get is the basis of the basis ... define 'doesn't work'11:29
xdevnullVersion 2023.16.715.201511:29
xdevnullHP page shows two different drivers, I really don't know what's going on?11:30
xdevnullhttp://support.hp.com/us-en/drivers/selfservice/hp-pavilion-15-p200-notebook-pc-series/7486459/model/7685145?ssfFlag=true&sku=L0D45EA11:30
InferusFrankJor: sudo apt-get11:30
Inferusand its case sensitive11:30
xdevnullI've realtek and broadcom11:30
vakxdevnull: it looks like you're talking about Windows driver, i am about Linux one11:31
InferusBluesKaj: still no luck11:31
xdevnullvak, I want install in Linux :(11:31
xdevnullSo i'm searching for driver name in my HP page :P11:31
xdevnullvak, If i'm correct https://help.ubuntu.com/community/WifiDocs/Driver/bcm43xx this will help.11:32
xdevnullbrb11:32
vakxdevnull: i am only about rtl8723 here no idea about this broadcom one11:32
BluesKajInferus, open pulseaudio and set your audio output to analog/ speakers11:37
xdevnullOh yeah now workin11:37
Inferus1 mo11:37
FrankJorI think I got it, thanks11:38
MonkeyDust!manual | FrankJor11:39
ubottuFrankJor: The Ubuntu Manual will help you become familiar with everyday tasks such as surfing the web, listening to music and scanning documents. With an emphasis on easy to follow instructions, it is suitable for all levels of experience. http://ubuntu-manual.org/11:39
InferusBluesKaj: I'm in pulse now11:39
InferusBluesKaj: everything says "built in audio analogue stereo"11:40
darsHow to set password on drives in ubuntu ?11:45
BluesKajInferus, install pavucontrol , it can help you choose the correct output in the dropdown11:45
InferusBluesKaj:  i have that already11:46
darshow to set password on drives ?11:47
darslike how fedora provides11:47
BluesKajInferus, which audio chip shows in alsamixer top left11:48
jattdars: encrypt it11:48
darsjatt, how to encrypt ?11:48
jattdars: with cryptkeeper for example11:50
darsdoes it encrypt harddrives also ?11:50
darsjatt11:50
InferusBluesKaj: onboard11:50
InferusBluesKaj: Realtek ALC850 rev 011:51
jattdars: nope, it works with folders11:51
darsjatt, i want to encrypt hard drives11:51
ducassedars: if you want to encrypt an entire drive, use luks/dm-crypt.11:52
jattdars: you can enable disk encryption during installation11:52
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darsducasse, how to install11:53
dars?11:53
ducassedars: there are many guides online.11:53
InferusBluesKaj: just reading something which says i need snd-hda-intel driver?11:55
BluesKajInferus, ok run , sudo modprobe snd_hda_intel11:56
Inferusnothing?11:56
BluesKajthere won't be any output from the command if the driver loads properly11:56
Inferusyeah no ouptut11:56
BluesKajInferus, ^11:56
BluesKajok , reboot11:57
Inferusso what does that mean?11:57
Inferusok be back in 2 mins11:57
Inferusthanks =]11:57
BluesKajthe driver wasn't loading, it's an old bug that hasn't been fixed11:57
InferusBluesKaj: no sound =[12:01
BluesKajInferus, take a screenshot with prtscn key of your alsamixer and paste it in imgur.com12:04
BluesKajInferus, then paste the resulting url here12:08
darsthere are some broken packages on my ubuntu12:08
darshow to remove them ?12:09
Inferusok 1 mo12:09
InferusBluesKaj: http://imgur.com/hKYIc9i12:10
BrianTheDogus.undernet.org12:11
darshow to fix broken packages12:11
darsmysql-server is broken12:11
darsi get this message everytime when i try to install anything12:12
darsdpkg: error processing package mysql-server (--configure):12:12
dars dependency problems - leaving unconfigured12:12
darsNo apport report written because the error message indicates its a followup error from a previous failure.12:12
dars                    Errors were encountered while processing:12:12
dars mysql-server-5.712:12
Inferus dars try an apt-get update12:13
MonkeyDustdars  I picked this up in this channel ... save it as 'fixpackages' ... make executable with 'chmod +x fixpackages' ... then run it with './fixpackages' ... http://paste.ubuntu.com/15121279/12:13
darshttp://pastebin.com/3aQuA2Yy12:13
BluesKajInferus, try turning up the Master M vol and unmuting it12:13
darsInferus, apt-get update results in same thing12:13
InferusBluesKaj:  done12:14
InferusBluesKaj:  just going to reboot brb12:14
BluesKajdars , run sudo dpkd --configure -a then sudo apt -f install12:15
BluesKajoops dars12:15
BluesKajsudo dpkg --configure -a12:15
InferusBluesKaj: back12:16
darsBlusKaj, done12:18
darsbut getting the same result12:18
dars*BluesKaj12:18
BluesKajdid you run , the -f install dars?12:19
darsyes12:19
InferusBluesKaj: i think i've got a solution, possibly.12:19
BluesKajInferus, ok and?12:20
Inferusreading a post that says alsa treats the hdmi as primary12:20
effectnethello and good morning in here12:21
BluesKajdars, are you running ubuntu-server?12:21
darsno12:21
effectneti'm still switching a box from win to ubu.  gonna install the thunderbird in windows, port all mail to thunderbird, then use that directory for my ubu thunderbird12:22
effectnetanyone done that?  sounds easy enough12:22
BluesKajInferus, yes but only if you have a hdmi connected afaik12:22
InferusBluesKaj: thats what i would have thought12:23
InferusBluesKaj: inxi says card 1 is my hdmi12:25
BluesKajInferus, check alsamixer , then F6 and make sure you choose '0" then hit the escape button and run, sudo alsactl store12:26
InferusBluesKaj: it also says THAT is using the snd-hda-intel driver12:26
BluesKajit should be Card 0 that uses the driver not hdmi12:27
Inferusits set the hdmi driver12:27
Inferusnot the onboard12:27
Inferusbrb12:32
BluesKajInferus, did you choose the soundcard in alsamixer F6 as I suggested ?12:33
InferusBluesKaj:  none are working, i have 3 sets of headphones plugged into pc12:36
effectnetgeez!  thunderbird does not support importing from some outlooks!!!  fyi too!!!12:38
effectneti have to make pst files now?12:38
BluesKajInferus,  aplay -l which is listed as Card 0 ?12:40
davhi someone can help with runtime bad blocks on a new SSD? thank you12:40
Inferus 12:41
InferusBluesKaj: CK80412:42
Inferus(AC97)12:42
BluesKajinferus, my solution was to purge pulseaudio , it kept misdirecting the audio, but that was my solution, it may not work for you12:44
Inferusheh12:45
Inferuswill look into that next12:45
Inferusjust trying a alsa-conf setting12:45
Inferusfor snd-hda-intel to generic12:45
Inferusbrb12:45
rahulrazHey I mistakely deleted my /etc/apt/ dir  How to fix it? I got back sources.list n etc but keys etc are still missing12:45
effectnetah well the older version of thunderbird wont import outlook 2007 either.12:51
deep0i cannot mount my android device12:51
BluesKajdeep0, via usb?12:55
albert__quit12:58
Reza_Sam96hi...what is the best editor for video and voice for creat education video?13:03
Reza_Sam96hi13:05
Reza_Sam96Can Ypu hear me?13:05
Reza_Sam96you*13:05
FuchsReza_Sam96: yes, on IRC it can happen that you don't get an instant reply13:06
Fuchsyou need to be patient. Maybe kdenlive would work for you, check it out.13:06
Reza_Sam96tnx13:07
santo_santo!list13:07
ubottusanto_santo: No warez here! This is not a file sharing channel (or network); read the channel topic. If you're looking for information about me, type « /msg ubottu !bot ». If you're looking for a channel, see « /msg ubottu !alis ».13:07
link0802Hello. In gnome shell I have touchpad settings, but in unity I have only mouse settings (no touchpad tab). Ubuntu 16.04. Can anybody help?13:23
iron_houziI need to upgrade libseccomp on 16.04. Are there any deb packaging build scripts I can use as a template to make my own deb package?13:25
QueenslayerAnyone running Chromium on 16.0413:28
Queenslayer?13:28
MonkeyDustQueenslayer  that's a yes/no question13:30
QueenslayerYes or No, yes :p13:30
QueenslayerBasically want someone to try a website contain flash content13:31
QueenslayerBecause I'm pretty sure that Chromium is the cause13:32
curlyearsgratings.13:41
curlyearscan anyone suggest a means oif burning an install DVD on a system which is Live-booted (and thus is already using the DVD drive)13:42
curlyearsI suppose I could use a USB<->SATA adapter, and plug in an older DVD drive13:43
vachojoin #drupal13:43
curlyearsI don't want to have to shut the system down until I have bnoth burned the 16.04 installer, and also copied some daa off the RAMDrive13:44
curlyearss/daa/data/13:44
curlyearswhat is #drupal?13:44
crs___curlyears: do you really have to burn it? you can also put it on an usb-drive13:45
curlyears\crs__:  for some reason, this motherboard diesn't support booting from a USB stick.13:45
curlyearss/dies/does/13:46
grigoryhello13:46
curlyearsthe RAMDrive data I can copy to a USB thumb though, true13:46
curlyearsI got so focussed on the DVD problem, the USV thumb didn't occur to me  *DOH*13:47
curlyearss/USV/USB/13:47
crs___is the mainboard that old? maybe you have to try a different usb-port to get it booting from stick13:47
crs___i always have trouble with usb3.0 ports13:48
debguy[16:45] <debianguy> hey guys what command can I use when moving my hard disk from a machine to another? [16:47] <debianguy> planning to move my debian from a 2014 config to a 201113:48
curlyearsI suppose that could be the issue.13:48
crs___but no, i have no idea how to burn a dvd without a second dvd-drive ;)13:48
debguydo i have to run any command at all? does it work oob with new hardware?13:49
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curlyears*sigh*  that means I have to wait another week, runninig un der Live-DVD.  That's when my replacement PSU arrives (I hope) and I can stabilize this machine13:50
curlyearsdebguy:   go ask on the debian sup[port channel.  This is ubuntu support13:50
debguy@curlyears ubuntu is debian :s13:51
curlyearsdebguy: not trying to be a jerk.  Seriously, you're more likely to get a useful and knowledgable answer there13:51
curlyearsthey are seperate distros13:52
debguy@curlyears It's not a pure debian it's more of a kali-ubuntu-debian13:52
debguyI'm looking for a script/app that has this in mind13:52
curlyearswhatever13:52
MonkeyDustdebguy  what is the output of   cat /etc/issue13:55
debguy@monkeydust thanks just a sec let me switch to linux13:56
mlvmhnwhich ubuntu version is best for low performance laptops?13:57
yeatsmlvmhn: lubuntu (IMHO)13:57
mlvmhnok, i have dual core processor and 2 GB RAM, will that do?13:58
chuThat's more than I have running XFCE13:58
chuYou'll be fine with lubuntu or xubuntu13:58
mlvmhnk can i run vlc player, qbittorrent in these OS?14:00
MonkeyDustmlvmhn  sure14:00
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mlvmhnwhat are the differences between xubuntu and lubuntu?14:01
debguy@monkeydust kali linux w/ 4.614:02
debguyany idea of a script I can use?14:02
ducassemlvmhn: the desktop environment.14:02
debguywill I be safe with just recompiling the kernel?14:02
MonkeyDustdebguy  kali is not supported here, you're in the wrong channel14:03
debguy@monkeydust let's assume I'm using ubuntu do you know any such script?14:04
MonkeyDustdebguy  we don't assume in this channel14:04
debguy@monkeydust ok do you know of any such script for an ubuntu user14:05
mlvmhncan i try without installing?14:05
ducassedebguy: you've been told, this is not the right channel. you're not running ubuntu.14:05
chumlvmhn: There should be Live versions of both lubuntu and xubuntu available.14:06
ducassemlvmhn: when you boot the installer you are given the option to try it out.14:06
debguy@ducasse I miss the old days of this channel when we weren't racist towards people who chose to use a different kernel14:06
MonkeyDustdebguy  https://www.kali.org/community/14:06
chudebguy: It's been a policy for a while that #ubuntu only supports Ubuntu and its official derivatives.14:07
ducassedebguy: a different *distro*. we don't know what changes they have made, so we can't advice you.14:07
debguyyeah I won't blame you if anything breaks I just want to know if anyone knows/ever used such a script..14:07
debguyand "back in the day" we didn't have this policy @chu :(14:08
chuThe policy's been in place for as long as I've been around, and that's at least 8 years now.14:08
MonkeyDust!kali14:08
ubottuUbuntu channels can only provide support for Ubuntu itself, as other distributions and derivatives have repository and software changes. Please consult their websites for more information. Examples: gNewSense (support in #gnewsense), Linux Mint (see !mint), Kali Linux (#kali-linux), CrunchBang (support in #crunchbang), BackTrack (support in #backtrack-linux)14:08
r_riosHello. My computer is freezes sometimes, shortly after booting. It freezes once, or twice, then stops after I restart it.14:09
r_riosAre there any logs I can look to try and diagnose that?14:09
debguy@chu yeah I don't exactly remember how many years ago but I remember when #ubuntu was about helping people14:10
mlvmhnk, i think i will try lubuntu, how do i install it using terminal?14:12
bosiHello everyone, I am having trouble with my wireless in the Ubuntu 14.04 on a Dell Latitude E6530. It works fine then eventually disconnects and won't recognize any network. If I restart the PC, the wireless works again, until it decides not to. Any clue? Thank you!14:12
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ubuntufriendhi guys does anyone know any script that helps with mitigating to another machine? for ubuntu 16.10?14:14
vamadir12314:16
vamadir!ping14:16
ubottupong!14:16
tuttle955iBazinga14:17
erasmusbazhang is a jerk.14:18
erasmusoh you said bazinga n/m14:19
ubuntufriendif i recompile my ubuntu kernel with drivers for my new machine will everything work just fine?14:24
Hydr0p0nXubuntufriend - if you recompile it correctly, and don't miss anything, then it will work but, you'll probably have to update it yourself going forward14:27
iron_houziI know about conf files in /etc/ld.so.conf.d to add library paths, but how do I set the search order?14:28
lernerxbacklight -dec 10 returns No outputs have backlight property. Google returns too many solutions, I dont know if those are updated or valid. Im on 16.04...14:28
ubuntufriend@hydr0p0nX: thanks alot! but this installation of ubuntu im talking about was installed on newer hardware and i want to move it to older hardware, is there anything else I should worry about?14:29
Hydr0p0nXubuntufriend: if you're just moving to a different box, the only thing you need to worry about drivers you installed manually.14:33
ubuntufriendalright cheers man!14:33
selcukhello i need help for watch employers screen on my company14:34
selcukwho help me :)14:34
OerHeksubuntufriend, and UUID of the other harddrives that are in grub, network interfaces ...14:34
Hydr0p0nXubuntufriend: oh, and make sure your fstab is right14:34
OerHeksubuntufriend, install fresh14:34
selcukwho tell me, how can i watch our company employers screen on ubuntu14:36
OerHeksselcuk, what is 'our company employers screen' ???14:37
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ubuntufriend@selcuk any vnc software14:37
selcukpc14:38
selcukwe watch personel pc screen14:38
OerHeksoh big brother ..14:38
ubuntufriend@selcuk http://askubuntu.com/questions/120973/how-do-i-start-vnc-server-on-boot14:38
selcuk:)14:38
selcuki'm looking now askubuntu14:39
ducasseselcuk: don't do that before checking if it's legal in your jurisdiction.14:39
selcukbut i dont want to vnc14:39
ubuntufriend@selcuk you can disable client's permissions if you only want to watch14:40
selcukit is okay ducasse14:40
oeuvreCamille Chat! It's a powerplay goal!14:40
selcukbecause all personel signature our contract14:40
selcukboss wants screenshots of all employees on one screen.14:41
OerHeksget boss out of lazy chair, selcuk14:41
selcuk:)14:42
selcukplease look this page http://italc.sourceforge.net/screenshots.php?img=italc-1.0.6_1.jpg&label=114:42
ducasseselcuk: this is a complex legal question, make sure to ask a lawyer. besides, it's just plain wrong to do this.14:42
OerHeksno more tea for boss14:42
oeuvreyour boss has cams on all his employees?14:42
selcuki want to use this program, but i cant run.14:42
selcukyes14:42
selcuk:)14:42
selcukcam14:42
selcukplease look this page http://italc.sourceforge.net/screenshots.php?img=italc-1.0.6_1.jpg&label=114:42
oeuvreprint out a smiley face and tape it oeuvre the camera14:42
oeuvreso, intelligent spying on your employees?14:43
selcukthis iTALC program work ubuntu. But i cant run14:43
oeuvresounds like your boss has trust issues14:43
lernerecho 0 | sudo tee  /sys/class/backlight/acpi_video0/brightness < this dimmed my screen, I can barely see what I write14:43
selcukno any spying, all personel now this watch details.14:43
lernerhow do I establish a value? 40%? for instance14:43
selcukall employess signoture contract14:43
oeuvrethis page has bad UX... 4 clicks to get to downloads and then14:43
selcukso14:44
ducasseselcuk: you do know that you can't sign a contract to allow something that is illegal, right?14:44
ubuntufriend@selcuk have you checked the instructions inside the "INSTALL" file?14:44
selcukyou know Ubuntu Landscape, i want to find free software same as Landscape14:44
selcukdear ubuntufrined i try to install14:45
selcukmake install14:45
selcukbut14:45
ubuntufriend@selcuk it literally spoonfeeds you on how to build it :s14:45
selcukdear ubuntufrined14:45
selcukif i give you teamwiever14:45
selcukcan you help me?14:46
ubuntufriendunfourtunately that's against this channel's rules and I also don't have time14:46
ubuntufriendbut everything you need is in that "install" text file @selcuk14:46
selcuk:(14:47
selcukfriendly help14:47
selcukokey i try againg14:47
selcuki'll turn back guys :)14:47
moppersHi! I am trying to use an application that has a dependency on libgnutls26.so in Ubuntu Xenial. This library appears to be not present in the repo (but was for older Ubuntus)14:47
ubuntufriend@selcuk I found a prebuilt version https://packages.debian.org/jessie/i386/italc-master/download just run with dpkg -i14:48
MonkeyDust!find libgnutls | moppers14:49
ubottumoppers: Found: libgnutls-dev, libgnutls-openssl27, libgnutls28-dev, libgnutls30, libgnutlsxx2814:49
OerHeksmoppers, isn't that part of libgnutls http://packages.ubuntu.com/xenial/libgnutls-dev14:49
OerHeks26 is dead, 27 is current?14:49
OerHeks..or 2814:49
moppersOerHeks: I have installed libgnutls-dev but I still get the error about being unable to find libngnutls26.so14:50
moppersi get this: error: libgnutls.so.26: cannot open shared object file: No such file or directory14:51
OerHeksmoppers, then the application uses old libs, ask for an upgrade?14:52
OerHeksxenial http://packages.ubuntu.com/xenial/libgnutls3014:52
ubuntufriend@moppers: change the dep version from 26 to latest then fix compiling errors or find 26.so?14:53
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moppersubuntufriend: That's safe? I can find a version of 26 from an older ubuntu but it's not going to break anything?14:54
ubuntufriendshould be safe if its official release14:54
OerHeksdon't mix versions ..14:55
moppersI can find the library in 12.04 LTS but I run Xenial14:55
moppersi'm not really happy about using an older library and having a frankenstein distro14:55
ubuntufriendthen u can update the dep urself but u might have to fix more than compiling errors :s14:56
ubuntufriend@OerHeks whats wrong with having 2 versions of the same lib?14:57
moppersubuntufriend: I've seen it break something too many times.14:58
OerHeksubuntufriend, how do we tell if it is wrong, no name of the app he wants to install14:58
OerHekswith gnu utils i wonder ..14:58
moppersOerHeks: It's a proprietary application. I am not even allowed to mention we're using it, according to my contract. Yes this is crap.14:59
OerHeksmoppers, then apply their support14:59
moppersOerHeks: I note private internet access has the same error message and this is also related to vpn, so maybe they "borrowed" some code from PIA :-)15:00
ubuntufriendheh sorry then15:01
ubuntufriendlove my ubuntu for never breaking so far15:01
RomanLier-ubuntufriend: you lucky15:01
Striveubuntufriend, I recently installed ubuntu mate on my aging lenovo and it works fantastic15:02
Strivesince i'm fairly new to linux altogether, this distro really really makes it easy for me to learn15:02
ubuntufriendglad to hear @strive I'm also gonna install it on an ancient computer with an ssd15:03
ubuntufriendcan't wait to see how that will go15:03
moppersI am going to install Xenial into a VM, and install the gnutls from Precise, and see if that works. if it breaks, no big deal - it's just a vm15:03
Striveooo ssd nice15:03
ubuntufriend@moppers pls let us know that turned out :imp:15:03
StriveLenovo T400 laptop...old, but not too old...ubuntufriend, what is ancient to you?15:04
RomanLier-Kenrin: are you there? just finished dist-upgrade and still cannot install ibus-hangul....15:07
ubuntufriend@strive heh guess mine was an exaggeration then hp touchsmart tm215:07
Strivehaha15:08
dedehi, xubuntu 16.0415:08
BluesKajStrive, I use a desktop from the same era and I have kubuntu/kde/plasma and it all runs fine15:09
dedeI dimmed my screen completely and now I cannot see anything.15:09
RomanLier-still same error: http://storage8.static.itmages.com/i/16/0529/h_1464534543_3557191_1a5174b842.png15:09
dedeIm using a different computer so I cannot paste the command I used15:09
dedehow do I undim my screen?15:09
dedethis is on a laptop15:09
StriveBluesKaj, how much ram?15:09
moppersdede: There are usually keys on the laptop you can press for that. or did you dim it via software?15:10
StriveBluesKaj, I have 4gb of ram...with plans on upgrading to 8 soon.15:10
BluesKajStrive, itcame with 3GB but I added another 315:10
StriveBluesKaj, ahh nice stable enough15:10
dedemoppers: function keys dont work, I entered a command15:10
dedestarting with echo IIRC15:11
moppersdede: can you plug in an external monitor, to see what you've done on the lappie?15:11
dedenope15:12
BluesKajyeah Strive , being a desktop I was able to add a pci entry level nvidia 8400GS graphics card as well15:12
StriveBluesKaj, that's pretty decent to run desktop environments15:13
RomanLier-hey i have 1gig of ram15:13
StriveRomanLier-, you're a true fighter15:13
Strive:)15:13
dedecat /sys/class/backlight/acpi_video0/max_brightness < will that work?15:14
BluesKajStrive, yeah works well for an old machine, also replaced the old hdd with a samsung evo 850 256GB SSD , that reall sped things up15:14
RomanLier-Strive: well, it's just an exo classmate netbook pc... i don't expect too much15:14
StriveBluesKaj, your one lucky son of...loll ssd's are fast15:15
StriveRomanLier-, that explains it15:16
BluesKajStrive, think your T500 will be quite happy with ubuintu15:16
StriveT400 :(15:16
Strivebut yes15:16
Striveit is15:16
RomanLier-:)15:16
Inferushey BluesKaj15:16
BluesKajt400 rather yes15:16
Inferusive been working on the issue with my sound15:16
Strive#! shebang!15:16
BluesKajInferus, JHi , making any progress?15:16
Inferusjust disabled snd_hda_hdmi_codec and snd_hda_intel and now I get no volume control icon on desktop15:16
Inferusso the desktop cant be looking at the right sound device15:17
BluesKajInferus, not a good idea to disable snd-hda-intel , that's your audio driver15:17
Inferusi thought that15:18
Inferusbut when I look in terminal at it, it's using Intel8x015:18
Inferussnd_intel8x015:18
BluesKajok , but do you have audio15:19
Inferusnope15:19
Inferus=[15:19
InferusBluesKaj: inxi now only shows the one audio device though, the onboard CK804 AC97, using snd_intel8x0 driver15:19
InferusBluesKaj: sorry no, it does show both still.15:20
BluesKajinfer does aplay -l show what's card 0 ?15:20
BluesKajInferus,^15:21
InferusBluesKaj: : card 0: Nvidia 804, onboard15:21
lernerhi again15:22
lernerecho 0 | sudo tee  /sys/class/backlight/acpi_video0/brightness15:22
lernerwhat is the oppposite to that?15:22
BluesKajInferus, ok try to get the hda audio driver to use it by choosing thatNvidia 804 in F6 in alsamixer15:23
InferusBluesKaj: its the only option in there now15:24
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InferusBluesKaj: whats weird is my pc now thinks there is no sound, so no sound control icon in task bar15:27
lernerwhat app can I use to dim a screen?15:27
BluesKajlerner usually power management15:28
InferusBluesKaj: does ubuntu not have /boot/grub/menu any more?15:29
InferusI was oghing to try a command line switch15:29
ducasselerner: on my laptop it is set to 10, try that.15:29
dewdlI dont know much about linux systems, i want to reinstall audio modules. How do I got about doing this?15:30
keshaHi all, anyone lives?15:30
lernerBluesKaj, my function keys dont work... any tips?15:30
Inferusdewdl: apt-get remove15:30
BluesKajInferus, you've disable snd-hda-intel drive r, so no icon will show15:30
lernerducasse, do you mean cho 0 | sudo tee  /sys/class/backlight/acpi_video0/brightness ?15:30
Inferusok cheers, i'll have a look now15:31
Inferusbrb15:31
keshaI have a question about DNAT at lo interface. Is it possible?15:31
keshaI need open the port of memcached for one IP15:32
ducasselerner: if you mean "echo 10", yes.15:32
dewdlInferus, sorry should have been more clear, I dont know what to remove15:32
lernerducasse, I had to restart my laptop for messing with that command, im reluctant to do what you suggest...15:32
lernerecho 1 = 100%?15:33
ducasselerner: do "cat /sys/class/backlight/acpi_video0/brightness" first to see what it is set to. there's a lot of info on backlight here: https://wiki.archlinux.org/index.php/Backlight15:34
lernerducasse, 7, is that 70%?15:36
ducasselerner: i would guess so. check the link i gave you, it is comprehensive and can answer you better than i can.15:37
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StriveEvery distro has bash correct?15:41
MonkeyDustStrive  or you can install it, no doubt15:45
BluesKajStrive, dunno for sure, i stick with debian based distros which use bash by default15:45
InferusBluesKaj: i have reenabled the snd_hda_intel, still no sound icon on toolbar15:45
Inferusso disabling the hdmi has killed it15:46
sodomyDoes anyone know how to convince systemd to start a getty on tty7 after i've moved X11 to a different tty?15:46
StriveBluesKaj, thank you. I ask because I'm self-teaching bash scripting and thought it was universal on all distros15:46
Inferusbrb15:47
lernerhttps://wiki.archlinux.org/index.php/Backlight#Kernel_command-line_options.xbacklight < im now creating a "/etc/X11/xorg.conf" file and I have no idea what to do next... I have copied it. Now what?15:50
Lasivianso.. odd problem. 16.04, new install, and when I put in my password to login it immediately pops back to the password screen15:50
OerHekssodomy, with such nickname you won't find much answers here..15:50
OerHeksjust saying15:50
lernerim in the "xbacklight" section15:50
Cuchuflitook bye15:51
LasivianI had installed Gnome flashback and was using it, but it still loops me no matter what desktop I pick15:51
LasivianNot sure how to get into the machine to fix it in the first place, heh15:52
ubuntuq15:52
GeeMacHi folks,  I'm on 14.04 LTS  I woul like to upgrade but I am worried about losing all my settings and the way the GUI is set up.   I have been in the forums and wikis but keep getting conflicted answers on how to upgrade without losing settings.15:55
BluesKajinferus, check this: https://help.ubuntu.com/community/SoundTroubleshootingProcedure15:55
MonkeyDustGeeMac  first of all, make a backup15:55
OerHeksGeeMac, if you don't have a backup of your data, it is not important15:55
InferusBluesKaj: i think i've ruined sound completel;y15:56
MonkeyDustGeeMac  and if you have a separate /home partition, simply don't format it during fresh install15:56
OerHeksand when upgrading to 16.04, i would prepare an USB with the iso first, just in case..15:56
BluesKajInferus, check the url i posted15:56
GeeMacIs there any actual set way of upgrading without the chances of losing things?  As for backup Geeze.... I'll need another drive to back up my Home folder.15:56
Inferusno sound icon, and i've reversed all my changes lol15:57
GeeMacWhat about sudo apt-get upgrade -d?15:57
MonkeyDustGeeMac  apt-get upgrade upgrades the installed packages, not the distro release15:58
MonkeyDustGeeMac  as of july, you can upgrade directly LTS > LTS15:59
GeeMacI thought there was some command after the "upgrade" something like -d  Hmm have to go back and look at that.  but as for backing up  guess I'll have to wait until I get another drive.  That home folder is huge.16:00
OerHeks-d development16:00
GeeMacMonkeyDust, this July...  What would be the difference.  I can wait to then.16:01
sodomyOerHeks: I fail to see how a nickname (which I've had for years) affects the ability of people to provide help.16:01
MonkeyDustGeeMac  in july, 16.04.1 will be released, the point release16:01
sodomyOerHeks: However, if you're that ignorant; have at it.16:01
GeeMacAhhh OK.16:02
MonkeyDust!ltsupgrade16:02
ubottuUsers of 14.04 LTS will be offered the automatic upgrade when 16.04.1 LTS is released, which is scheduled for July 21st.16:02
GeeMacThanks.  I can hold off until then.  So I guess that upgrade will be less evasive then if i did it now?16:03
MonkeyDustGeeMac  in the mean time, find space to backup16:04
GeeMacYep no kidden....  Thanks MonkeyDust16:05
user__Yo16:06
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NamelessUhh, i got this Windows FTP thing...16:06
GeeMacAnd I guess thanks to Ubotu (not sure if ubotu is a bot or not.   lol16:06
sebastianhi16:06
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Guest24879And i simply tired of all the crap on it16:06
Guest24879lol16:07
sebastianwhats up16:07
Guest24879what Linux Distro should i use to host it?16:07
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Oldcpv3I`m trying out Debian GNOME live CD and liked it, but idk16:07
TGVoidIs there a way to speed up DDrescue? I was going at 50 MB/s, but now it's going at 1 MB every 7 seconds.16:15
Habbieit probably has a reason16:16
Habbiei presume your disk is broken in some way?16:16
Habbieif not, just use dd :)16:16
TGVoidHabbie: My drive has corrupted data16:16
TGVoidHabbie: Yesterday it was 50 times faster than it is now16:17
TGVoidHabbie: Does it go faster when I'm not using anything else? I16:20
luqhello, hola olá16:23
luqsomeone here?16:23
luqalguém aqui?16:23
luq...16:23
MonkeyDust!br16:23
ubottuPor favor, use #ubuntu-br para ajuda em português. Para entrar no canal por favor faça "/join #ubuntu-br " sem as aspas. Para a comunidade local portuguêsa, use #ubuntu-pt. Obrigada.16:23
luq?join #ubuntu-br16:24
luqtutz tutz16:25
luqquero ver16:25
InferusBluesKaj: tried that whole guide, nothing16:33
solarguyHey guys, I am getting the following error while I use apt-get update. How do I fix this? (http://postimg.org/delete/n4a44lcgw/)16:34
solarguyHey guys, I am getting the following error while I use apt-get update. How do I fix this? (http://postimg.org/delete/n4a44lcgw/), I am using Ubuntu 14.1016:35
guykWhat is the error?16:36
Bashing-om!15.10 | solarguy16:36
ubottusolarguy: Ubuntu 15.10 (Wily Werewolf) was the 23rd release of Ubuntu. Download at http://releases.ubuntu.com/15.10 - Read the release notes at http://ubottu.com/y/wily - Scheduled to go EOL in July, 201616:36
Bashing-om!15.04 | solarguy16:36
ubottusolarguy: Ubuntu 15.04 (Vivid Vervet) was the 22nd release of Ubuntu. Support ended on February 4, 2016. See !eol, !eolupgrade and http://ubottu.com/y/vivid16:36
TGVoidDoes Firefox slow down ddrescue on a LIve USB?16:37
solarguy@ubottu, Should I upgrade to make sure the error goes? Anything wrong with Ubuntu 14.1016:37
ducassesolarguy: 14.10 is long since dead.16:37
Bashing-om!14.10 | solarguy16:37
ubottusolarguy: Ubuntu 14.10 (Utopic Unicorn) was the 21st release of Ubuntu. Support ended on July 23rd, 2015. See !eol, !eolupgrade and http://ubottu.com/y/utopic16:37
BluesKajInferus, sudo apt install --reinstall alsa-base alsa-utils16:37
Bashing-omsolarguy: I get it right here directly .. yeah .. 14.10 ( utopic) is EOL .. and long hard road to release upgrade . A clean fresh install will be much faster .16:38
OerHeksTGVoid, yes, don't browse the web while recovering ..16:44
OerHeksmaybe that is why you get 1mb speeds :-D16:44
TGVoidOerHeks: WIll do. Thanks, and see you later! (I'm on IRC with Firefox)16:45
Guest81836good morning, anyone here that can have a look at an ubuntu installer rebuild bug in yaketty?16:47
Bashing-om!16.10 | Guest8183616:48
ubottuGuest81836: Ubuntu 16.10 (Yakkety Yak) will be the 25th release of Ubuntu. It is due to be released in October 2016. Discussion in #ubuntu+116:48
Guest81836thx will try there..16:48
Bashing-omGuest81836: :) those who would know are there .16:49
C_minusAnybody familiar with the workings of lm-sensors? It report the RPM of "fan2" but there's no "fan1". Despite the fact that my laptop has 2 fans. (Background: one of my fans is noisy and I've been trying to monitor temp, RPM etc.)16:49
MonkeyDustC_minus  pastebin the output of    sensors16:51
C_minusHere ya go MonkeyDust http://paste.ubuntu.com/16812529/ P.S. if anybody else has a Dell M3800, I'd be interested to see the output of your lm-sensors.16:52
C_minusMonkeyDust P.S. same deal when I use PSensor (although I'm not sure if that uses lm-sensors as a back end)16:53
nkowdley1Is there anyone here who can help me with a driver issue?16:58
nkowdley1Occasionally I will get "[ 8934.081185] alx 0000:09:00.0 enp9s0: fatal interrupt 0x4019607, resetting" constantly spammed in my dmesg output and One of my CPU cores(according to htop) shoots up to 100%.  Has anyone seen this before?16:59
OerHeksnkowdley1, sure, browsers with flash that crash can do such overloads17:02
OerHeksyou would see that too in the process list17:02
nkowdley1OerHeks: I thought alx was the ethernet driver.  Can you explain what is going on here?17:03
nkowdley1OerHeks: top just shows a kworker getting stuck at 100%17:04
OerHeksoh, hard to say what actually is going on17:04
nkowdley1OerHeks: Then how did you know it was flash?17:04
Yuri4_Guys, is there a way to install quick and easy WordPress + LAMP + phpmyadmin on a server?17:04
nkowdley1OerHeks: This issue has been bugging me for a while17:05
BluesKajnkowdley1, system monitor should show the processes in detail17:05
OerHeks ps aux > file.txt17:06
OerHekskworker .. you can disable that cpuhog if you don't *need* it17:06
BluesKajOerHeks, does ctl+escape launch system monitor on unity/gnome?17:07
Cyber_Akuma-Tmp2Does ubuntu treat searching for "*.dmg" the same way windows would, looking for all files with that extension?17:07
MonkeyDustCyber_Akuma-Tmp2  yes, with the 'find' command17:07
nkowdley1BluesKaj: System Monitor keeps crashing when I try to switch to the resources tab17:07
Cyber_Akuma-Tmp2MonkeyDust: What about through the file manager?17:08
nkowdley1OerHeks: I am looking through the output, and I still only see kworkers...is there something else I should be looking at here?17:10
OerHeksBluesKaj, crl+q i think17:10
OerHeksnkowdley1, if you search for kworker issues, there are many complaints17:10
OerHekstry to disable it and see it something else happens17:10
solveyhey, I am having an issue with Ubuntu not detecting the hdd, the only real information one can find is this dmesg snippet, http://pastie.org/private/skcmdu4ws6inzlpmi2q3yw17:10
nkowdley1OerHeks: just kill the kworker by pid then?17:11
solveythe hdd in question used to be in a WD myBook live, just threw it in the server but simply cannot use it17:11
MonkeyDustCyber_Akuma-Tmp2  frankly, havent followed, what was your initial question17:11
EriC^^nkowdley1: you have to disable an interrupt sometimes17:11
SonikkuAmericaBluesKaj - can't say I didn't see that coming...17:11
Cyber_Akuma-Tmp2I need to find any files with that extension in the windows folder of a windows drive, not sure how to do that in ubuntu17:11
OerHeksnkowdley1, no, that will respawn .. maybe ask in #kubuntu for details howto disable kworker17:12
BluesKajSonikkuAmerica,  yeah I should have known17:12
nkowdley1EriC^^:How do I know which interupt to disable?17:12
EriC^^nkowdley1: try grep . -r /sys/firmware/acpi/interrupts17:12
BluesKajSonikkuAmerica, as you know I'm not real familiar with the unity /gnome stuff17:13
MonkeyDustCyber_Akuma-Tmp2  use the 'find' command to get the job done quickly17:13
nkowdley1EriC^^:Am I looking for the one with the large number next to it?17:13
EriC^^nkowdley1: look for a very high value yeah17:13
Bashing-omsolvey: " link online but 1 devices misclassified,  /etc/fstab bad entry ??17:13
SonikkuAmericaBluesKaj - aye, Mr17:13
SonikkuAmerica*Mr. KDE17:13
Cyber_Akuma-Tmp2I am not sure how to point find to the windows drive/folder17:13
MonkeyDustCyber_Akuma-Tmp2  pastebin the output of    mount17:14
nkowdley1EriC^^: I see 3 interupts with 200+ /sys/firmware/acpi/interrupts/gpe_all:     26617:14
EriC^^nkowdley1: that's nothing, must be something else17:14
Cyber_Akuma-Tmp2Do I need to run that as sudo?17:14
solveyBashing-om, no thats not it, it doesnt event recognize it as /dev/, its literally only present in dmesg17:14
MonkeyDustCyber_Akuma-Tmp2  no17:15
nkowdley1EriC^^: /sys/firmware/acpi/interrupts/gpe17:     209   enabled ?17:15
solveyno /dev/ exists, so nothing one could possibly mount17:15
EriC^^nkowdley1: nope, like 1million would be more like it17:15
nkowdley1EriC^^: Or this one? /sys/firmware/acpi/interrupts/sci:     20917:15
nkowdley1EriC^^: None of  them are that high17:15
Cyber_Akuma-Tmp2ok..... waiting for terminal to start up, sure is taking a while17:15
EriC^^nkowdley1: must be another bug17:15
MonkeyDustCyber_Akuma-Tmp2  ctrl-alt t17:16
nkowdley1EriC^^: it is a very strange bug.  If I kill network-manager it will completely lock up my computer forcing me to pull the power17:16
nkowdley1EriC^^: Also it slows my internet down considerably17:16
EriC^^nkowdley1: try a different kernel maybe17:17
Cyber_Akuma-Tmp2thanks17:17
Bashing-omsolvey: Does bios see the drive ? does ' sudo parted -l ' see it ?17:17
nkowdley1EriC^^: I have tried many kernels from 3.10-4.6.017:17
nkowdley1EriC^^:  Do you know how I would disable the alx driver?  Maybe that would be a short-term prevention strategy17:17
EriC^^nkowdley1: sorry, no idea17:17
Cyber_Akuma-Tmp2MonksyDust: http://pastebin.com/nmp9Vqmk17:17
solveyoh parted I didnt try, let me give it a shot, was only checking with fdisk Bashing-om brb :)17:18
Cyber_Akuma-Tmp2The windows drive has the label "System"17:19
nkowdley1Does anyone else here know how I can disable a driver on boot, but be able to renable it later on?17:19
nkowdley1using modprobe or something17:19
MonkeyDustCyber_Akuma-Tmp2  i wonder... my gvfs is mounted on /run/user/1000/ ... yours is 99917:20
Cyber_Akuma-Tmp2I am running ubuntu off a liveusb with a 4gb persistant file17:20
Cyber_Akuma-Tmp2Dunno if that helps17:20
MonkeyDustCyber_Akuma-Tmp2  pastebin the output of    lsblk  (without sudo)17:23
Cyber_Akuma-Tmp2Wow, that's a lot more readable than the output of mount17:25
Cyber_Akuma-Tmp2http://pastebin.com/0LmYraZC17:25
Cyber_Akuma-Tmp2Oh right, sorry, forgot to tell you, System is a raid017:26
Cyber_Akuma-Tmp2Though I thought the os would not see the raid if it's setup by the motherboard17:26
MonkeyDustCyber_Akuma-Tmp2  yes, and i'm not very familiar with raid17:26
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Cyber_Akuma-Tmp2Hmm.... I think the mountpoint for it is /media/ubuntu/System17:28
Cyber_Akuma-Tmp2So then would I type "find /media/ubuntu/System/Windows *.dmp" to search in windows and subfolders?17:29
MonkeyDustCyber_Akuma-Tmp2  in a terminal, type     find /media/ubuntu/System -name "*.blah" -exec ls -l {} \;17:29
Cyber_Akuma-Tmp2What is that part after blah for?17:29
MonkeyDustCyber_Akuma-Tmp2  blah is the file extension you're looking for17:30
Cyber_Akuma-Tmp2I know, I meant the exec stuff after it17:30
MonkeyDustCyber_Akuma-Tmp2  -exec ls -l    lists the files it found (ls is the equivalent of dir in windows)17:31
MonkeyDustor dos, rather, for those who are old enough17:31
gotcha5832hi17:33
Cyber_Akuma-Tmp2Thanks..... hmm.... coulden't find the files I need, argh, where are they..... I am starting to wonder if they got deleted somehow17:33
gotcha5832is there some people who know opcache17:34
MonkeyDustCyber_Akuma-Tmp2  test the syntax with an extension you know is there17:34
Cyber_Akuma-Tmp2It did find several files, just that none of them were the ones I wanted17:34
EriC^^Cyber_Akuma-Tmp2: check your history for a mishap i guess17:34
Cyber_Akuma-Tmp2My history?17:35
EriC^^Cyber_Akuma-Tmp2: if they're huge files then use find -size +1G to search for 1g files17:35
EriC^^Cyber_Akuma-Tmp2: yeah, type history17:35
Cyber_Akuma-Tmp2They are files on a windows partition I am searching for17:35
EriC^^how big17:36
Cyber_Akuma-Tmp2Under a meg I think17:36
solveyBashing-om: parted doesnt list it either17:36
EriC^^do you remember anything that was in the text of them?17:36
Cyber_Akuma-Tmp2Nothing unique17:36
EriC^^what command are you using to search17:37
Cyber_Akuma-Tmp2I know they would be extension .dmp17:37
Cyber_Akuma-Tmp2find /media/ubuntu/System/Windows -name "*.dmp" -exec ls -l {} \;17:37
EriC^^try with -iname instead of -name17:38
EriC^^you sure they're in the system files? they're core dumps or something?17:38
Bashing-omsolvey: If bios also does not see it .. a cable loose ? .. sata controller ? - maybe change the sata port ?17:38
Cyber_Akuma-Tmp2Yeah, dumps, windows kept bluescreening yesterday and I managed to view one of them so I know they are there, but I can't find them when I am trying to use a ubuntu livecd to view them17:39
Cyber_Akuma-Tmp2Still can't find them.... I am starting to question if I hallucinated the files...17:40
EriC^^Cyber_Akuma-Tmp2: maybe it was another dir they were in?17:40
Cyber_Akuma-Tmp2Would it mess up my permissions if I ran the search on the whoel drive?17:40
EriC^^go back a couple dirs and search the whole thing17:40
EriC^^no17:40
Cyber_Akuma-Tmp2Ok, i'll search the whole drive then17:41
EriC^^Cyber_Akuma-Tmp2: try "*.dmp*" maybe too17:41
Cyber_Akuma-Tmp2Oh, can I limit it to files made in the last 3 or so days?17:42
EriC^^Cyber_Akuma-Tmp2: yeah17:42
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Cyber_Akuma-Tmp2How do I do that?17:43
EriC^^find -ctime 3 i think17:43
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solveyyeah bios next Bashing-om17:44
Cyber_Akuma-Tmp2so I would put the -ctime before the --iname right?17:44
dgadd523Shouldn't my root password be the same as my sudo password on Ubuntu 16.0417:44
Cyber_Akuma-Tmp2or after?17:44
EriC^^Cyber_Akuma-Tmp2: find -ctime -317:44
EriC^^Cyber_Akuma-Tmp2: yeah17:44
Cyber_Akuma-Tmp2wiat, -3 or 3?17:45
EriC^^Cyber_Akuma-Tmp2: i'm not sure it will be faster that way, -317:45
hastikoCan someone help me with this? https://askubuntu.com/questions/778897/odd-symbol-showing-up-in-file-names-xubuntu-16-0417:45
MonkeyDustfor those who are eager to help other ubuntu users : https://dl.dropboxusercontent.com/u/4653463/Ubuntu%20Linux%20Toolbox.pdf17:45
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EriC^^hastiko: do you have encryption?17:45
hastikoAfter two days of struggles with Xubuntu I am about to explode.17:45
EriC^^hastiko: nevermind17:46
hastikoEriC: No....not on Xubuntu or the OSX machine17:46
OerHeksMonkeyDust, it costs £19.99 / €27.3017:47
Cyber_AkumaCoulden't find them :( guess they aren't here17:47
dgadd523Hello, newbie question.  Shouldn't root password be the one given when I installed Ubuntu 16.0417:48
OerHeksdgadd523, yes the 1st user created during install has root priv17:48
EriC^^dgadd523: nope, the user gets sudo17:48
dgadd523So if I can't log into root with su and that password I may have a problem?17:49
Myrtti_no17:49
Cyber_AkumaThanks for the help, guess I am going to have to try to see if I can find out what happened in windows and hope I get lucky with it not BSODing on me instantly17:49
EriC^^Cyber_Akuma: it says it should be in some Minidump dir17:50
Myrtti_use sudo before the command(s) you want to run as sudo, dgadd52317:50
dgadd523OK thanks17:50
EriC^^Cyber_Akuma: C:\Windows\Minidump\*.dmp17:50
Cyber_AkumaEeic^^: Yeah, all the dumps there are from 2014 >.<17:50
Cyber_AkumaI wish hexchat had tab complete...17:50
solveyBashing-om: well yeah the bios does not recognize it either17:51
solveyso I guess that one is dead :D17:51
solveythanks anyway17:51
Bashing-omsolvey: Maybe yes, maybe not so yes, dead .. swap out the cables with known good ones .17:52
solveyalready did, still unrecognized17:53
Bashing-omsolvey: Obvious next thing is stick in a known good drive on that cable .17:53
skweekcan someone help me fix evince?17:55
solveyalready did that too Bashing-om and it was recognized17:55
skweekevince crashed with SIGSEGV in cmsGetColorSpace()17:55
Bashing-omsolvey: :( .. welp so much for that drive .. none last for ever .17:56
solveyI was thinking that maybe, since it was a external HDD, the vendor did some fuckery to it and blocked it from being able to mount it17:56
MonkeyDustOerHeks  what, the book?17:56
solveylike.. I had a similar issue with an external USB drive, the vendor did some weird FS manipulation so I was only able to mount it with the the vendors usb adapter17:57
solveybut in this case I guess its just dead17:57
solveythanks anyway Bashing-om  :)17:57
skweekwhy does my evince keep on crashing saying segment fault??17:57
Cyber_AkumaOk, before I try to reboot into windows, there is one more thing I want to try, though it involves installing an app from a .tar.gz file..... how would I do that?17:57
Cyber_AkumaIt's also going to ask me for my login name and password.... what would the default be for a ubuntu liveusb?17:57
Bashing-omsolvey: Hey, all I did was hold your hand .17:57
mooasaurusI have a nvidia hybrid chipset in my laptop, when I enable vsync on the intel chip by adding in a configuration in xorg.conf.d/00-intel.conf for the tearfree option, whenever I use prime-select to switch from the Intel chip to Nvidia, something gets confused (thinking gpu-manager) and results in a instance of xorg that is nothing but a blank screen. is there a way I can add xorg options for the intel chip but to have that option ignor18:00
skweekanyone? http://paste.ubuntu.com/16815562/18:01
Conderhello, does ubuntu installer create EFI partition if i choose "erease disk and install ubuntu"?18:02
FrankJorSo another n00b question...good and userfriendly bind9 alternative (primarily for dns caching)18:02
Cyber_AkumaInstalling video drivers is going to kick me out of the GUI in Ubuntu isn't it?18:03
Cyber_AkumaOr require me to restart it?18:03
FrankJorSeveral to choose from, but most of the google links and article links leads to rather old software.18:03
LasivianHow do I get the name of the machine to translate to it's IP on other machines on my LAN? (What's this called at least so I can google it? lol) thanks18:07
verbalhoodzhello, can someone tell me why the ubuntu open-iscsi package does not include the iscsiuio binary. this binary is required to offload the iscsi traffic to a bnx2i card.18:07
AceLasivian: you wnat you internal ip?18:07
LasivianAce: My existing machines can be reached by name, the new one cannot. I'm guessing I have to do something to tell all the other machines on the LAN18:08
skweekcan anyone help me troubleshoot a package that seg faults?18:08
dedeon xfce the screen just disappeared: I cancelled the extraction of a .rar file and the screen went down18:08
dedeim now in tty6 and logged in. what do I do?18:09
dedethis is another computer18:09
FrankJorOr at least, how do you get an invite to the ubuntu beginners channel?18:09
LasivianFrankJor: I think I should be there too, lol18:10
reisiodede: CTRL+ALT+F718:10
dedereisio: why do I want that? that will turn me back to tty7, where I cannot use anything, gui disappeared18:11
skweekevince is just the regular pdf viewer and reader that runs on ubuntu, i'm not sure why but today I went to open it and it just crashes, here's the tail end of the crash log if anyone has any tips http://paste.ubuntu.com/16815562/18:11
skweekI tried reinstalling the package, and deleting the config file18:11
reisiodede: if you're sure; is it black?18:12
FrankJorLasivian: Yeah, I get the steep learning curve, but at some more precise information here and there would be nice :)18:12
dedewhat is black? tty7? yes18:12
reisiodede: try service lightdm stop; service lightdm start18:13
LasivianFrankJor: It's a dead channel apparently. https://wiki.ubuntu.com/BeginnersTeam/IRC18:14
huuygt77check out my online password generator: http://pw.2fh.co18:15
dedethat didnt do anything in tty7 reisio18:15
dedeonly thing to see on ttyt is the mouse18:16
dedetty7*18:16
Cyber_AkumaI would need something for those not even advanced enough to be a beginner XD18:16
reisiodede: sometimes the number changes, but if you started lightdm you'd probably be transported there18:16
Lasivianhuuygt77: bad link18:16
reisiodede: this is ordinary Ubuntu?18:16
huuygt77what do u mean18:16
huuygt77try reloading18:16
huuygt77sometimes it needs that18:17
huuygt77dont know why18:17
OerHeksAdguard has blocked access to this page18:17
OerHeksThis web page at pw.2fh.co, has been reported as a phishing page18:17
huuygt77its not18:17
huuygt77its a pass generator not a phish18:17
OerHekshuuygt77, please don't spam vulnerabilitys18:17
huuygt77it generates them not takes tmem18:17
huuygt77them*18:17
dedeunable to connect to restart < thats what sudo restart lightdm outputs18:18
dedethis is xubuntu reisio18:18
dede16.0418:18
Lasivianhuuygt77: Either way, not the right place for that.18:18
OerHekshuuygt77, the site is bad, whatever your code might be.18:18
huuygt77ok ok18:18
\9huuygt77: do you actually have a support question, or are you here just spam your shady web page?18:18
huuygt77sorry18:18
huuygt77i just made it18:18
OerHeksgoto github, huuygt7718:19
Yuri4_What would be the best GUI tool to manage linux servers without GUI trough ssh?18:19
Yuri4_tool for windows*18:19
huuygt77mabe someone reported all 2fh.co sites as phishes18:19
huuygt77bye18:19
Lasivianthere is 2 minutes of my life I will never get back :P18:20
Cyber_AkumaI just installed a propitery video driver to replace the open source one, I am guessing I need to kill and restart x server to use it?18:20
yellabs-r2most of the time i used create startupdisk to make live usb ubuntu, but it broken ( syslinux seems not alright )18:20
yellabs-r2i then use unetbootin18:20
yellabs-r2are there other simular tools to make live usb ?18:21
yellabs-r2that work .. ;)18:21
Cyber_AkumaFor windows or for linux?18:21
yellabs-r2ubuntu18:21
yellabs-r216.0418:21
Bashing-omdede: Ehat results id ya start the Wondows Manafer from terminal ? ' xfwm4 ' .18:21
Cyber_AkumaNo, I mean, the tool itself, do you need it to run on windows or linux?18:21
Yuri4_I need to run it on windows :)18:22
Yuri4_To connect to ubuntu server without gui18:22
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FrankJorlandscape?18:22
squintydede,   sudo service lightdm restart18:22
Cyber_AkumaThere is rufus and Universal Usb Installer, the latter lets you set up a persistant storage on the usb drive18:22
yellabs-r2for me, its a linux version i am looking for..18:23
OerHeksdd the iso; sync18:23
yellabs-r2OerHeks, dd , is it bootable then with dd ?18:23
g0thhi18:23
yellabs-r2never tried it that way18:24
g0thmy sound is no longer working after a reboot18:24
OerHeksyellabs-r2, sure, the ubuntu iso's are hybrid18:24
g0thalso my "*" key on the keyboard is no longer working18:24
g0thany ideas?18:24
Cyber_AkumaThen how did you type that?18:24
Cyber_AkumaXD18:24
OerHekssudo dd  if=/path/to/.iso of=/dev/sd[x] bs=4M18:25
akikCyber_Akuma: man ascii, copy & paste18:25
g0thI used they keypad18:25
OerHeksyellabs-r2, and don forget 'sync' after that18:26
lernerhas somebody here been helping an user whose's x server crashed?18:26
reisiolerner: probably someone18:26
Cyber_AkumaOnce I choose the nvidia propitery drivers over the open source ones in the "additional drivers" tab of "software and updates" does that install them once I click apply changes... or does it just change my repos and then I have to install them myself?18:27
OerHeksCyber_Akuma, "additional drivers" tab and "software and updates" are the same tool18:28
OerHeksit will download and install the driver, also the place to be to roll back18:28
Cyber_AkumaOk, so then do I need to restart the xserver once it's installed to start using it?18:29
OerHekswith nvidia, no.18:30
OerHeksit will do that automatic, no user action needed AFAIK18:30
Cyber_AkumaCool, is there any way I can test it to see if it's rendering with the new drivers?18:33
phaser1can somebody plzz give me the link to the ubuntu-sdk source files? cant fine it18:39
reisioCyber_Akuma: service lightdm restart18:40
Cyber_Akumareisio: Do I need to do that to start using the drivers?18:41
BluesKajCyber_Akuma,  lspci -nnk | grep -i vga -A3 | grep 'in use'18:42
reisioCyber_Akuma: basically, yup18:42
BluesKajCyber_Akuma, to makesure the driver restarts, reboot18:43
reisioyou shouldn't need to reboot18:43
Cyber_AkumaWell, copying some files for now, so I will restart the x server after this18:43
InferusBluesKaj: here's an interesting update for you, i've connected my bluetooth speaker to the pc and audio is outputting through that18:44
yellabs-r2thanks OerHeks, it did indeed work as you said18:44
Cyber_AkumaShould have used a USB 3.0 flashdrive, ubuntu is REALLY laggy on a usb...18:45
skweekevince is just the regular pdf viewer and reader that runs on ubuntu, i'm not sure why but today I went to open it and it just crashes, here's the tail end of the crash log if anyone has any tips http://paste.ubuntu.com/16815562/  I tried reinstalling the package, and deleting the config file18:45
Cyber_Akuma... not sure if I even have a usb 3.0 flashdrive18:45
reisioCyber_Akuma: might try using tune2fs to disable the journal18:46
Borathello?18:46
reisio'lo borat18:46
BluesKajreisio,  afaik the restrart is need to blacklist the nouveau driver after the propietary driver is installed18:47
BluesKajneeded18:47
phaser1:skweek And?18:47
skweekphaser1: it crashes with those seg fault errors18:49
skweekI was hoping someone could help me troubleshoot it if anyone has any knowledge18:50
BoratTrump for preisdent18:50
ioriahttps://bugs.launchpad.net/ubuntu/+source/cairo/+bug/140471518:50
ubottuLaunchpad bug 1404715 in cairo (Debian) "evince crashed with SIGSEGV" [Unknown,New]18:50
BoratMake America Great Again!18:50
BoratDoes someone know how I could connect a school email account to thunderbird?18:51
BoratIt is under 123456789@schoolboard.gapps.com18:52
Hydr0p0nXudev doesn't appear to be picking up a UDF dvd being inserted, which is preventing automount from triggering, Ubuntu 14.04.4  with kernel 4.2.0-36-generic #42~14.04.1-Ubuntu. Are there any logs I can look at to see what's happening?18:52
Amm0nHydr0p0nX, you could try dmesg -w and insert the dvd18:57
Hydr0p0nXAmm0n, -w doesn't appear to be valid for dmesg19:00
Amm0ndmesg --follow?19:00
skweekdoesn't look relevant ioria, the activity log says that a patch was applied on 1.4.1 and a fix released already19:01
Amm0nshould be available since kernel 3.something19:01
ioriaskweek, ubottu says  [Unknown,New], not fix released although19:02
Hydr0p0nXAmm0on, it looks like that was updated in 14.10 to support follow I can emulate it though19:04
Hydr0p0nXAmm0n, nothing in dmesg for it, and udevadm monitor only shows the eject action - "KERNEL[9911.964804] change   /devices/pci0000:00/0000:00:07.0/0000:03:00.0/ata8/host7/target7:0:0/7:0:0:0/block/sr0 (block)19:06
Amm0nHydr0p0nX, try again with: tail -f /var/log/{messages,kernel,dmesg,syslog}19:08
ioriaskweek, are you updated ?19:08
skweekyes19:10
mindofmateo1My wife tried to sign in to ubuntu and numbers lock was off. She uses the 10 for some reason to type numbers, so when she pressed enter it submitted the wrong password.  This happened one time.  Now the log in screen is frozen.  We don't want to reboot and lose what we were working on, but it doesn't look like I can even ssh into this computer.  Is19:13
mindofmateo1 there any way to unlock it?  I even tried plugging in another mouse, and it doesn't appear to take any kind of user input.  I pressed Ctrl + Alt + F2 to go into text mode and the mouse cursor disappeared but it still doesn't respond.19:13
ioriaskweek, you did a do-release-upgrade from wily ?19:13
Amm0nHydr0p0nX, you already tried this one: http://ubuntuforums.org/showthread.php?t=1658827  ?19:14
tikunwhat's the typical maximum throughput of the SFTP protocol?19:14
skweekIf I recall correctly I did a upgrade from 15.10 to 16.04 when 16.04 was released last month, or earlier this month, and the night before last installed some gnome related packages19:17
ioriaskweek,  apt-cache policy evince19:18
Cyber_AkumaIs there any way I can perform some kind of MD5 or CRC check or something to make sure some files copied correctly?19:19
skweekhttp://paste.ubuntu.com/16817668/ what's helpful from this?19:19
ioriaskweek,  nothing19:20
skweekwhat were you looking for?19:20
ioriaskweek,  to check if the ver matches xenial ver19:20
ioriaskweek,  have you tried another pdf reader ?19:22
meh__i've modified  a program from repositories19:22
LeoDaVinciim having trouble getting xubuntu to start from a bootable usb. i have the correct iso on it and used lili to make it live. i have a hp laptop. i went into the bios and turned legacy support on and switched the usb to the top. also went into the boot options but my usb didnt show up. i used all usb ports aswell.19:22
meh__first i've downloaded with apt-get source19:22
skweekhttp://paste.ubuntu.com/16817750/ from /var/lib/dpkg/status19:22
meh__and   afer i putted my patches into /debian/patches19:22
meh__and i have some questions19:22
meh__need i modifiy the rules file?,  this package had some patches from ubuntu's devs19:23
skweekya, i'm actually kind of wanting to put this issue on the backburner and get to what I was working on using an alternative qpdfview19:23
meh__2 hoy can i regenerate the tar.xz files?19:23
meh__orig.tar.xz and debian.tar.xz19:23
ioriaskweek,  apt-cache policy evince-common19:24
meh__for compline into launchpad19:24
skweekhttp://paste.ubuntu.com/16817789/ from apt-cache policy evince-common19:24
Hydr0p0nXAmm0n: I ejected twice, logs are at http://paste.ubuntu.com/16817786/ looks like it's trying to mount on eject instead of insert19:25
ioriaskweek,  it's ok19:25
deduped did a 16.04 server minimal install on win 10 in virtual box, anyone know how to get a local ip?19:27
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Hydr0p0nXdeduped, change your network card to bridged instead of NAT in the vm settings in virtualbox19:28
ioriaskweek,  when you start evince from cli you got this http://paste.ubuntu.com/16815562/ ?19:28
dedupedcool tks hydro19:28
OerHekshttps://help.ubuntu.com/lts/serverguide/network-configuration.html19:28
squintyskweek, fwiw, just found out a couple of days ago there is a linux foxit version   https://www.foxitsoftware.com/products/pdf-reader/19:29
Amm0nHydr0p0nX, are you able to mount it manual?19:29
Hydr0p0nXAmm0n, yes, manual mounting works19:30
Amm0nHydr0p0nX, and did you see the link i pasted?19:30
Amm0nmaybe it's a bug with udisks19:31
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Hydr0p0nXAmm0n, I've tried something similar, basically just included cdfs in the fstab along with the rest of those values, I try that one exactly though19:32
ioriaskweek, remove evince-gtk19:34
ioriaskweek, there's a conflict19:34
ioriaskweek,  apt-cache show evince | grep Conflicts19:36
nomicz.z..z19:38
tecnicoHello19:39
tecnicoI have a problem with an encrypted /usr partition on Ubuntu 16.0419:39
Cyber_AkumaIs there any way I can verify that a bunch of files copied successfully?19:39
tecnicoDoes anyone have such a layout?19:40
tecnicoUbuntu 15.10 used to boot all right.19:40
tecnico16.04 instead drops me to initramd's shell.19:40
FuchsCyber_Akuma: md5 sums, before and after19:41
tecnicoThere, I have to type:19:41
OerHeks!info diff19:41
ubottuPackage diff does not exist in xenial19:41
OerHeksoh19:41
FuchsCyber_Akuma: programs like rsync should do that automatically19:41
tecnicocryptsetup --key-file /root/etc/usr_key open --luks /dev/sda3 ubuntu-usr19:42
tecnicothen I can exit the shell and the system boots.19:42
tecnicoDoes anyone have an encrypted /usr on a separate partition?19:42
tecnicoI guess it's an initramdisk issue.19:43
tecnicoThe initramd does not have /etc/crypttab, I expected that file to be there19:43
tecnicoHow can I force the initramd to have it?19:44
user2635Does anyone use moscz?19:44
DagdaHey. I have an issue related to changing to nvidia proprietary drivers using software update, but I'm having no success with the usual fixes i.e. purging nvidia and reinstalling nvidia-current or nvidia-352 (running a 980GTX). I have to drop to root to get past crypt-setup. Then, once I get to login, I get caught in a loop (xorg crashing?). Can anyone help?19:47
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Cyber_AkumaFuchs: rsync? Is that in the repos?19:50
FuchsCyber_Akuma: yes. What is your usecase, though?19:51
Bashing-omDagda: Nvidia recommends the 361 driver .. gamers advise better performance with the 364 version , what release are you running ? PPA time ?19:51
Cyber_AkumaI just want to make sure these files I copied to an external drive for backup purposes copied successfully, because ubuntu has been lagging and crashing a lot of apps since I am on a liveusb19:51
tanraxhi19:52
Dagda16.04 - I'm installing 361 now, will update you shortly19:54
Cyber_AkumaWould rsync work for having copies the files after installing it?19:54
Cyber_Akumacopied*19:55
Cyber_AkumaI just want to test the target and source, not set up some type of sync19:55
Bashing-omDagda: K .. make sure you purge nvidia* and ans well remove the old /etc/X11/xorg.conf file .19:55
dedupedubuntu 16.04 ubuntu min install in virtual box on win 10, network settings 'Bridged Adapter'-- changed ip addr to 192.168.1.100 and cant ssh in?19:56
Cyber_AkumaFuchs: Would it work for just testing files after they have been copied though? Not setting up any type of sync or schedule?19:57
FuchsCyber_Akuma: then you want to compare md5 hashes, as I said19:58
Cyber_AkumaCan it do that for a whole folder? Or just on a per-file basis?19:59
Fuchsif it is a lot of files, maybe a diff with frontend (like kdiff3) is easier19:59
DagdaBashin-om: I've done both. rebooted. I still have the issue where crypt-setup screen loads but I can't type anything in. I have to boot in recovery mode to be able to enter my key to get past cryptsetup.19:59
Cyber_Akumai see19:59
FuchsCyber_Akuma: you could tar the folder and md5 that, or just loop it in a script19:59
Cyber_AkumaYeah, it's a few hundred or so, totaling about 650gb19:59
Cyber_Akumait's far too big to tar19:59
Cyber_Akumaso kdiff3 is a frontend for rsync?20:00
DagdaBashin-om: I've been able to login now after entering my key in recovery mode, then resuming from the recovery options. I'm not sure what the issue is that's forcing me to use recovery mode to get past cryptsetup every time though. Any ideas?20:01
Cyber_AkumaHmm.... I am looking at Gdiff, and I don't see an option to do any sort of checksum of files without copying them first20:01
Dagdauh oh. I spoke to soon. Unity hasn't loaded. I can see a couple of files saved to my desktop but I have no taskbar.20:02
\9Cyber_Akuma: kdiff3 only does comparison, it doesn't copy anything20:02
Dagdashort-cuts don't appear to work either, can't load a terminal20:03
DagdaI can open a shell with ctrl-alt-F* though20:04
\9Dagda: try ctrl+alt+f1, log in and run DISPLAY=:0 gnome-terminal20:04
Bashing-omDagda: Sorry, I have no idea of how to deal with encryption . Do not know how to troubleshoot in that situation . Maybe see if there are any hints in the /var/log/lightdm/lightdm.log  file ?20:05
Cyber_Akumakdiff3 seems to be for text files20:06
Dagda\9: Error constructing proxy for org.gnome.Terminal:/Factory0: Could not connect: Connection refused20:06
Bashing-omDagda: /var/log/gdm/gdm.log  ??20:06
Bashing-omDagda: Sorry .. unity is lightdm .. so " /var/log/lightdm/lightdm.log " for the lof file .20:07
Cyber_Akuma\9: kdiff3 seems to be for text files20:08
user2635Hi there, I just changed my os language20:08
asarchAny one with the Google Chrome blank page problem?20:08
asarch*Anyone20:09
user2635then when I logged back in it asked me whether i wanted to update my user folder names (like Documents, Music etc)20:09
user2635so I accept20:09
Wipsterhey all, vlc is failing to launch in 16.04 on my 64bit installation, its complaining that xcb is not available then goes on to say its installed in the list, I have checked the library deps with ldd and nothing appears to be missing, I have cleared the vlc settings and cache but nothing and I have tried reinstalling various qt5 plugins to try and catch missing deps. Strace also appears to give a clean library loading20:09
user2635but it's not really fixed it completely20:09
asarchI am using Ubuntu 14.04.4 LTS20:09
pradeephi20:10
Bashing-omDagda: ^ and one can look in X's log file to see that the driver did build : /var/log/Xorg.0.log .20:11
DagdaBashing-om: what command do I need to run before invoking that log?20:11
Dagdasorry for being slow to reply. The script on the shell I'm running is tiny, very hard to see...20:12
Bashing-omDagda: just 'cat /<path>/<file> will do nicely as in ' cat /var/log/Xorg.0.log ' can paste it thus ' cat /var/log/Xorg.0.log | pastebinit ' if ya wajnt us to verify .20:14
Dagdathanks20:14
sebThreeM10whitehi20:15
Bashing-omDagda: small fonts... makes me consider what is set in 'nvidia-settings' .20:15
user2635In nautilus, the side bar there are shortcuts like documents etc20:15
user2635where are these stored?20:15
user2635how do I modify them20:15
nedstarkis zfs considered a stable package20:16
sebThreeM10whiteuser2635 documents etc will be in the home folder20:16
zubHi. When a package is not installable (ubuntu-sdk-libs:armhf : Depends: liboxideqt-qmlplugin:armhf but it is not going to be installed) should I report a bug? Against the package that can't be installed?20:17
sebThreeM10whitezub:  that happens sometimes in general packages that cant just be installed for some reason20:18
MonkeyDust!zfs | nedstark20:18
ubottunedstark: For information concerning ZFS and Ubuntu, see: https://wiki.ubuntu.com/ZFS20:18
Bashing-om!info liboxideqt-qmlplugin20:19
ubottuliboxideqt-qmlplugin (source: oxide-qt): Web browser engine for Qt (QML plugin). In component main, is extra. Version 1.14.9-0ubuntu0.16.04.1 (xenial), package size 166 kB, installed size 1525 kB20:19
zubsebThreeM10white: yup, I know. but the bottom line is it's not "bugreport-worthy"?20:20
sebThreeM10whitezub yep probably not bug report worthy20:20
zubok, thanks20:20
effectnethi how can i tell what dvd this ubuntu is?20:21
zubthe bad thing is I can't install ubuntu sdk arm chroot now20:21
effectnethi how can i tell what ubuntu this dvd is?20:21
Bashing-omzub: ^^  is package oxide-qt installed ?20:21
sebThreeM10whitenedstack zfs is debatel if it should even be in linux distros and for now most people will just use ext 420:21
effectnetubuntu isnt into cloud computing is it?  that stuff is for morons20:21
mindofmateoI have a laptop and a desktop that won't ssh with each other.  I get the error "port 22: Connection refused" from both, however both of them can ssh into my raspberry pi.  Does anyone know what's going on there?20:22
effectneti mean, it's unsafe and others see your data, etc...20:22
sebThreeM10white!md5sum eeffectnet20:23
vanhalenmindofmateo: try shh'ing locally in each to see if the ssh daemon is running at all20:23
zubBashing-om: I don't even see oxide-qt package20:23
zub# dpkg-query -l oxide-qt\*20:23
zubdpkg-query: no packages found matching oxide-qt*20:23
vanhalenzub, maybe it is in contrib20:24
effectnet!md5sum effectnet20:24
mindofmateovanhalen: just so I understand, do you mean ssh into the computer I'm using from itself?20:24
effectnetthx sebThreeM10white20:24
dewdlHi, I've just attempted to install the Arduino IDE but it seems to not be working, I'd like to remove it and reinstall. I didnt use the package manager. Im very green to linux. Thank you20:24
zubwell, I get to that by "sudo click chroot -a armhf -f ubuntu-sdk-15.04 create"20:24
effectnetoh that didn't work20:24
TGVoidIs there any way to speed up ddrescue? Yesterday it was working at 50 MB/s and now it's running at .05 MB/s20:24
sebThreeM10whiteeffectnet you can check iso20:24
vanhalenmindofmateo: yes20:24
sebThreeM10white!md5sum20:24
ubottuTo verify your Ubuntu ISO image (or other files for which an MD5 checksum is provided), see http://help.ubuntu.com/community/HowToMD5SUM20:24
effectnetah!20:24
effectnetk20:24
Bashing-omzub: Well .. the bot says that oxide-qt i the source .. humm .. I do not see it here : http://packages.ubuntu.com/xenial/liboxideqt-qmlplugin . But will not hurt to make sure all the dependencies are met .20:25
mindofmateovanhalen: I get the same error message from both, with both "ssh" and "sudo ssh"20:25
Cyber_AkumaI don't see any option in Grsync to only compare two files without copying them20:25
vanhalendewdl: go inside the folder where you compiled it, type sudo make uninstall20:25
vanhalenmindofmateo: i am guessing sshd isn't running, can you see it in ps?20:26
vanhalendewdl: then you can type sudo apt-get install arduino to install from ubuntu repos20:27
mindofmateovanhalen: I just see bash and ps20:27
vanhalenmindofmateo: try ps xa20:27
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MonkeyDustor ps -e20:28
pr3c0ghey all20:28
dewdlvanhalen: I ran a .sh file to install it, i ran it in my home dir. Running sudo make uninstall did nothing20:29
vanhalendewdl: you need to read that .sh file if you still have it, maybe it can give you a clue what it installed and where. Did you run it as root?20:29
vanhalendewdl: why won't you just go ahead and install ubuntu's own aduerdo? it will probably overwrite what you previously installed anyway and everything will work fine20:30
vanhalenmindofmateo: ps xa | grep sshd20:31
vanhalenmindofmateo: maybe you haven't even installed sshd, is it installed? apt-get install it20:31
mindofmateovanhalen: the last one returns: grep --color=auto sshd20:31
vanhalenmindofmateo:  so it is not running20:31
vanhalenmindofmateo: type sudo sshd to see if it exists at all, if not then apt-get install it20:32
mindofmateovanhalen: ahh--  sshd: command not found20:32
vanhalenmindofmateo: you probably need to install it with apt-get20:33
mindofmateosudo apt-get install sshd says unable to locate package sshd20:33
vanhalenmindofmateo: try installing just ssh?20:34
Bashing-omEriC^^: Wb ! .. :)20:34
vanhalenmindofmateo: you better google to find out what the ssh daemon is called20:34
EriC^^thanks Bashing-om :)20:35
mindofmateovanhalen: ssh works from both computers to connect to my raspberry pi, just not to each other.  OK20:35
Amm0nmindofmateo, in ubuntu the ssh client is installed by default, sshd is not20:35
vanhalenmindofmateo: ok apparently it is openssh-server or something20:36
mindofmateoAmm0n: gotcha.  all I find is openssh-server, is that correct?20:36
vanhalenmindofmateo: just install it20:36
mindofmateovanhalen: ok, that's the only one I found20:36
Cyber_AkumaWould this work? comm -3 <(`md5sum foo/) <(`md5sum bar/`)20:39
Cyber_AkumaTo compare files in two folders20:40
mindofmateoAmm0n, vanhalen: sweeet, that's what fixed it.  Thank you.  Also, when I was trying to work it out myself, I ran 'sudo ufw allow ssh' on both computers, should I undo this?20:40
dewdlvanhalen: Thank you for your help, the Arduino IDE installed. However the old, non working one is too. I shall look at the .sh to see if there is any more info20:40
vanhalenmindofmateo: try it both ways20:40
mindofmateovanhalen:  I have, they both worke.d20:41
vanhalendewdl: maybe the .sh has an uninstall parameter option, can you run it with --help?20:41
Amm0nmindofmateo, if ufw is enabled you wouldn't be able to connect without this rule20:41
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vanhalenCyber_Akuma: you could get more help with that in #bash20:42
mindofmateoAmm0n: how do I tell if it is enabled?  nvm, it's "sudo ufw status"  it says it is disabled.  Should I enable it?20:42
vanhalenmindofmateo: it is a firewall20:43
Cyber_AkumaHonerstly, I would prefer a GUI based app, I am seriously tearing my hair out trying to figure out how to do this20:43
Amm0nmindofmateo, depends, if you're behind a NAT of your router your fine without it20:43
DagdaBashing-om: Sorry for the delayed response. When I try 'sudo cat/var/log/Xorg.0.log | pastebinit' I return 'command not found'. I can open the log in shell using 'xdg-open'. What am I missing in order to post it to pastebin?20:43
vanhalenCyber_Akuma: what exactly are you trying to do? compare multiple files?20:43
Cyber_AkumaCompare all the files between two folders20:43
mindofmateovanhalen, Amm0n: gotcha.20:43
Cyber_Akumawith hashes20:44
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vanhalenDagda: the cat command is catenated to the path following it :)20:44
dewdlvanhalen: I didn't notice it before through my panic, there is an uninstall.sh file. Ran it and issue solved. Sorry for not seeing it before. Thank you!20:44
DagdaBashing-om: It appears my /X11/conf file is screwed. Also, quite a few directories missing...20:45
vanhalenCyber_Akuma: you probably want to ask in #bash20:45
vanhalendewdl: welcome :)20:45
Cyber_AkumaOk, but you don't know of a GUI based application that can do it? I woudl rather use that than a bash command20:45
meh__how can i create a SOURCE package  for ubuntu ?20:46
vanhalendagda, you mistype the command he gave you: you type cat/var/log but it should be cat /var/log, cat is for catenate20:46
meh__i have changelog, dsc, patches "sat debian/patches"a and the source20:46
vanhalenCyber_Akuma: what exactly do you want to do?20:46
vanhalenCyber_Akuma: comparing files according to what?20:47
GnomeKrisWhich is better Displayport or DVI?20:47
Cyber_AkumaAgain, I have two folders, I want to compare them to make sure all the files copied correctly20:47
vanhalenCyber_Akuma: oh that20:47
vanhalenCyber_Akuma: why won't you cd in both and just ls -l ?20:47
Cyber_AkumaI want to compare hashes, not just a file list20:47
vanhalenCyber_Akuma: you can compare byte size20:47
luckywolfhola20:48
vanhalenCyber_Akuma: either way, to do it with md5sum you need a little bash script, ask in #bash for better help20:48
Alex-GammaHi, I'm on ubuntu 16.04 with nvidia card and nvidia-361 driver. I'm using xrandr to adjust the gamma correction. I set it up at the starup applications and works fine, but sometimes the gamma values go back to their original values. Could someone help with that ?20:49
GnomeKrisnvm, Ill use displayport. No audio with DVI20:49
Dagdavanhalen: nub error, thanks! :-D20:49
vanhalenDagda: sure thing :)20:49
luckywolfhola alguien habla español20:50
k1l_!es | luckywolf20:50
ubottuluckywolf: En la mayoría de los canales de Ubuntu, se habla sólo en inglés. Si busca ayuda en español entre al canal #ubuntu-es; escriba " /join #ubuntu-es " (sin comillas) y presione intro.20:50
vanhalenAlex-Gamma: you could try asking in #xorg too20:50
Alex-Gammaok vanhalen, thank you20:50
DagdaBashin-om: http://paste.ubuntu.com/15819925 (if that doesn't work then the 5's are 6's - tiny fonts! :P)20:50
luckywolfvenga eso iba preguntar20:50
DagdaBashin-om: http://paste.ubuntu.com/16819926 (sorry)20:51
vanhalenAlex-Gamma: you may want to google "xrandr save seettings" or something20:52
Alex-GammaI've been googling for a few days vanhalen :)20:52
FinetundarHey folks, if I'm in initramfs, is /root supposed to be empty?20:52
ubuntuclear20:53
vanhalenAlex-Gamma: sorry :) well you could try asking in #arxhlinux or #linux or #slackware where there are more technical savvy linuxers, xrandr works the same in all distros20:54
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vanhalenAlex-Gamma: sorry that should be #archlinux20:54
Alex-GammaOk, thank you again vanhalen20:54
vanhalensure thing20:54
DagdaBashin-om: and the lightdm.log http://paste.ubuntu.com/1682002920:54
Cyber_Akumavanhalen: I am not really looking for a bash command to be honest, I would prefer an application20:55
vanhalenCyber_Akuma: you can write a small application in bash, just ask in #bash trust me20:55
TGVoidDoes anyone know how to speed up ddrescue?20:55
vanhalenAlex-Gamma: just don't tell them you are using ubuntu, or else they won't help you :P20:56
Bashing-omDagda: Sorry, I wandered away . To use our tool, must be installed .. ' sudo apt install pastebinit ' .20:56
Alex-GammaHaha, oohh too late for that20:57
vanhalensorry :D20:57
DagdaBashin-om: I don't follow, sorry. I have pastebinit installed.20:57
Amm0nTGVoid, i don't think there is a way, be happy it's working if your disk is corrupted20:57
Alex-Gamma:P20:57
vanhalendagda, he was afk, you need to give him your pastebin links again20:57
hastikoI am getting "no such file or directory" errors often when trying to dd files I can see right in the ls20:57
Dagdaahh, ok, incoming20:58
hastikoi had this problem yesterday with another iso and it just worked randomly one time...anyone know why this is saying no such file?20:58
DagdaBashin-om: https://paste.ubuntu.com/16820029/ and https://paste.ubuntu.com/16819926/20:58
vanhalenhastiko: maybe it is to do with read/write permissions? ls -l that file to see20:58
Bashing-omDagda: Playing catchup .. reading your log at this time . be back soonest .20:59
DagdaI'll try removing the X11/conf file again20:59
Amm0nhastiko, use complete folderstructures in your command not stuff like ~/20:59
hastikovanhalen just type the file name and ls -l after?20:59
TGVoidAmm0n: Thanks20:59
DagdaBashin-om: in your own time. Very much appreciate the help.20:59
vanhalenhastiko: the other way around20:59
hastikoAmm0n I cd'd into the parent and then did ls to make sure I spelled it right...and then it still says no such file20:59
hastikovanhalen: fails to open no such file or directory21:00
Amm0nhastiko, paste command and ls of the iso21:00
vanhalenhastiko: what exactly is your dd command line?21:00
hastikotoshibalaptop@toshibalaptop:~/Downloads$ sudo dd bs=4M if=/antergos-2016.05.28-i686.iso of=/dev/sdb21:01
vanhalenhastiko: you are probably trying to access someone else's files21:01
hastikoI am the only user21:01
Amm0nhastiko, is antergos-2016.05.28-i686.iso in / ?21:01
Bashing-omDagda: OK, you are presntly booted with the 'nomodeset' boot parameter, that defeats Kernel Mode Setting such that the proprietary driver will not be loadable. Can you boot without the 'nomodeset' boot parameter ?21:01
hastikoits in /Downloads21:01
vanhalenhastiko: then you should type ./file not /file21:02
vanhalenhastiko: . means here21:02
hastikovanhalen: sorry I don't understand...I am in Downloads in terminal21:02
DagdaBashin-om: I'm afraid we're reaching the limits of my expertise now. How would I go about trying to do that?21:03
Amm0nhastiko then use the full path in the command: dd bs=4M if=/home/username/Downloads/antergos-2016.05.28-i686.iso of=/dev/sdb21:03
vanhalenhastiko: it should be if=./antergos21:03
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\9hastiko: "/antergos-2016.05.28-i686.iso" means a file in the root of the file system21:03
vanhalenhastiko: or just if=antergos21:03
hastikovanhalen: doing it this way worked for xubuntu yesterday....no .21:03
hastikoi will give the full path way a shot21:03
\9you need to use "./antergos-2016.05.28-i686.iso" if you want to refer to a file in the current dir21:03
vanhalenhastiko: you need to first learn file system basics, it is like in windows, / means c:\, i.e. TOP LEVEL21:04
Bashing-omDagda: Depends on how you implemented that parameter , /etc/default/grub ? And so far so good . " (II) NVIDIA dlloader X Driver  361.42 " the driver did build .21:04
hastikoI understand now thanks....its odd that I didn't do that yesterday21:04
hastikowell I'd love to learn the basics but since I can never get a working sytem without constant problems I cannot21:04
hastikoits frustrating21:04
hello678hi dude21:04
hastikoeveryone gives different asnwers....things rarely get fixed....forums don't have answers...i'd love to be good at this but its a headache21:05
vanhalenhastiko: just type cd / and look around with ls, cd into everywhere and back21:05
DagdaBashin-om: I have no idea how I implemented that parameter. All I did was switch to the nvidia proprietary driver from nouveau in Ubuntu software updater and then my problems began. Does this entail altering the boot loader?21:06
vanhalenhastiko: you may want to read some basic unix introduction pages on the web too21:06
hastikotoshibalaptop@toshibalaptop:~/Downloads$ sudo dd bs=4M if=./antergos-2016.05.28-i686.iso of=/dev/sdb21:06
hastikothis look right?21:06
vanhalenhastiko: yes21:06
hastikovanhalen: I have read a lot...just can't get a stable system to play with21:06
hastikook that is running thanks21:07
N3X15One more HexChat restart, apologies for the reconnect spam and amsg.21:07
hastikoits weird as I didn't do that yesterday....the '.' here addition...and it made the USB21:07
hastikoi just have some bad luck as everyone says this stuff is easy...all these odd things happen to me and often randomly resolve21:08
hastikoi didn't really want to bother with CL etc....just use GUI...but I can't get even that working right21:08
hastikodon't want to be a sysadmin...just a user :| I know some peple think that's wrong21:08
vanhalenhastiko: in dd, paramter if means "input file" and you need to specify where it is, the way you did showed it to be in / folder, but in reality it was in /Downloads folder, you see?21:08
craptalkas per explanation on this site:http://www.howtogeek.com/115797/6-ways-to-speed-up-ubuntu/, but does anyone try this before? and does it really work faster?21:09
hastikovanhalen: yes that makes sense thanks21:09
hastikoso if I put full path I would just use / to start right?21:09
vanhalenhastiko: next time just to if=/Downloads/myiso.iso to be sure and that command will work regardless of your current working directory21:10
hastikoi only ended up trying dd as no gui tool would make a live usb without problems21:10
vanhalenhastiko: yes, / means top level folder21:10
hastikobut you need to be at / in terminal right? if  you dd with full path from inside a folder will it still work?21:11
Amm0nhastiko, you can be anywhere if you use the full pathname21:11
vanhalenhastiko: in terminal, when you are logged in, you are always in some directory, and you change directory with 'cd', initials of "change directory" obviously, and you can see where you are by typing "pwd"21:11
fishhead2567good afternoon, I was hoping I could get a question answered. I am running 14.04 on a Mac Pro. I am running kernel 4.4.0. I have seen (through experience) that fglrx does not work for this kernel version. My question is, can I get two thunderbolt displays working with the opensource driver? I have one working and I see both in LSUSB but cant seem to figure out how to enable both of them. If not, is there a way to compile fglrx 21:12
hastikothanks guys...sorry for frustration....its constant problems. Nothing ever seems to just work21:12
vanhalenhastiko: so when you refer to a file in the filesystem you need to type in its exact location, and if you refer to it with just its name without specifying what folders it is in, then the shell interprets to mean that it is in the working directory21:12
vanhalenhastiko: just look around your file system with 'cd' and 'ls'21:13
hastikovanhalen: can you take a look at this as well and see if you have any advice? https://askubuntu.com/questions/778897/odd-symbol-showing-up-in-file-names-xubuntu-16-0421:13
Amm0nhastiko, if you buy hardware next time, make sure it's good supported with linux, saves a lot of trouble21:13
hastikoI finally got 16.04 xubuntu installed yesterday but there are several weird things happening21:13
vanhalenhastiko: you probably need to change your locale to UTF8, it is probably somewhere in settings21:14
josevital_is there a way to view chat history21:14
hastikoAmm0n: I do need a new laptop but money is a problem....thats why I found linux anyway21:14
Bashing-omDagda: If you booted the recovery console, will set the "nomodeset" boot parameter. Let me finish reading the logs .. and I be back and we continue this .21:14
hastikovanhalen: thanks...will look for that. I did verify I had same language settings but didn't see any utf-8 setting21:14
lernerI got 700 roms of sega games: all of them in a directory, but there is one subdirectory for each game: each rom is in a different subdirectory... how do I extract the whole 700 to the directory from these subdirectories?21:16
vanhalenhastiko: type 'locale' in your terminal to see what your character encoding is21:16
DagdaBashin-om: Ahh, I follow you now. I don't think I can. The cryptsetup page loads but I can't type anything in to the field in order to decrypt the disk to get to login. If I drop to a shell there, I just get a flashing cursor, no prompt, can't type anything in. I'll have another go while you're away.21:16
hastikoutf-8 and english21:16
vanhalenhastiko: you want to edit your /etc/locale.gen and un-# UTF8 for your language and then run 'sudo locale-gen'21:16
DagdaBashin-om: I can open a terminal in desktop and type commands now at least...21:17
vanhalenhastiko: ok it should work, maybe it is a font problem, maybe you want to install more ttf fonts21:17
hastikohow do I do that?21:17
hastikolanguage support says it is up to date21:18
dbz2kCan ubuntu  16.10 kernel work on 16.04? http://kernel.ubuntu.com/~kernel-ppa/mainline/v4.6-yakkety/21:18
vanhalenhastiko: sudo apt-cache search ttf21:18
GnomeKrisSo, does anyone know where to find the dark adwaita theme from gtk 3 that will work with gtk 2 applications?21:18
hastikovanhalen: done...then what?21:18
GnomeKrisNvm, found it here...21:20
GnomeKrishttps://github.com/axxapy/Adwaita-dark-gtk221:20
dbz2kanyone know?21:20
reisiodbz2k: yes21:20
reisiokernels can be mixed and matched with any userland, for the most part21:20
meh__how can i obtain the "files" variable of the dsc file?21:21
meh__i a trying to modify a very huge program from repos    and i need modify it  "because i've modified the program's code"21:22
Bashing-omDagda: I find no faults . Power the system down and restart from a cold boot . Attempt a normal login . What happens ?21:23
hastikohow do I put output in pastebin to share? add "pastebinit" to end?21:23
vanhalen_meh__: cat file.dsc | grep files21:24
hastikolike sudo apt-get install appname pastebinit?21:24
vanhalen_hastiko: sudo apt-get install pastebinit21:24
effectnethi21:24
vanhalen_hastiko: it is [appname], you fill it in21:24
hastikoI need to install it first?21:24
hastikoor just append "pastebinit" to end of command I want to share21:25
effectnetwhen i go to install ubuntu, it tells me that i dont have a swap partition.  i have the 64g ssd and 1t hdd.  where do i put swap?21:25
vanhalen_hastiko: type pastebinit, if it doesn't exist then you can install it with that command21:25
meh__vanhalen_: not,  i am talking abot the new hashes21:26
vanhalen_hastiko: you use pastebinit with a pipe, |, that tool make you use the output of a command as an input for the next command21:26
meh__vanhalen_: for update my file21:26
reisioeffectnet: somewhere21:26
effectnetheh21:26
reisioeffectnet: if you have a 64gb ssd, you probably have lots of ram, don't you21:26
effectnetno only 4g ram and computer cannot upgrade21:26
reisioso you can probaby put swap on the spinner and neglect it safely enough; unless you want fast resume from hibernation, in which case you might still leave swap on the solid state21:26
hastikovanhalen: I don't understand. I was trying to pastebin the output of the last command you gave me to ask what to do next21:27
effectnethmmm21:27
hastikofor the character issues21:27
vanhalen_hastiko: such as this: cat file | pastebinit21:27
vanhalen_hastiko: i recommend for you to install some ttf fonts and see if that helps21:27
effectnetwell i will not hibernate on this computer, but i will sleep21:27
meh__and what means  the center tag?21:27
vanhalen_hastiko: sudo apt-get install ttf[hit tab to see more]21:27
meh__at checksums-sha1 "for example"21:28
DagdaBashin-om: this http://ubuntuforums.org/showthread.php?t=2298740 seems to be the same issue I'm having, but there are no replies.21:28
GnsPHi everybody21:28
hastikovanhalen: so you gave me command: sudo apt-cache search ttf   can I then put sudo apt-cache search ttf | pastebinit21:28
meh__sha1sum "531505652" chromium-browser_50.0.2661.102.orig.tar.xz21:28
vanhalen_meh__: this is not ubuntu related21:28
GnsPI am using i3 on ubuntu21:28
hastikoand get link to share?21:28
vanhalen_vanhalen_: first do an apt-cache search, then pick one and install it with apt-get install21:28
hastikoI just don't understand how or which ttf fonts to install21:29
meh__vanhalen_: this i s an ubuntu package  "chromium"21:29
vanhalen_hastiko: just install several21:29
hastikoi don't know how21:29
reisiohastiko: for what?21:29
CyberGabber /part21:29
vanhalen_hastiko: sudo apt-get install ttf-liberation, for instance21:29
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vanhalen_hastiko: install ttf-dejavu21:30
effectneti wonder how much swap i'll need, i wanna make 8g of my 64g ssd swap, is that too much?21:30
hastikoreisio: to try and fix this problem https://askubuntu.com/questions/778897/odd-symbol-showing-up-in-file-names-xubuntu-16-04 vanhalen said to install ttf fonts but I don't understand which ones to try or how its connected21:30
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DagdaBashin-om: so I just did a cold-boot as you asked, I have a blank screen (purple). So far I've restarted to get to GRUB, boot in recovery move, am asked to enter my encryption key in the shell, that takes me to my recovery options. From there I resume a normal start which takes me to normal login. I can login now i.e. xorg doesn't crash, but unity doesn't load.21:30
hastikoutf-8 is set ok21:30
GnsPHere in my local network, we can not use irc protocol, so I am trying use webirc. I wrote a small python script to launch a minimal webkit browser opening this page. Now I tried to bind this application to a keysequence in i3. But somehow this does not work.21:30
GnsPCan anybody help21:30
GnsP?21:30
Bashing-omDagda: reading ( Bashing-om is my nick , if you do not use it , will not highlight, and I miss your responses) = a very busy channel here .21:30
hastikovanhalen: so just pick some random ttf fonts? how will that tell me something?21:30
hastikoor how do I use the font to determine something?21:31
vanhalen_GnsP: you probably need to ask in #i3 or #python21:31
effectneti'll bbl.  bye you guys :P21:31
hastikoI am in over my head sorry21:31
hastikoi need third grader directions21:31
GnsPThanks, vanhalen_21:31
hastikomaybe second grader even21:31
vanhalen_hastiko: i am guessing you have a font issue, i am just suggesting that you install new fonts, you install new stuff with this command: sudo apt-get install [stuff]21:31
hastikook..then what?21:31
vanhalen_hastiko: then reboot to see if it works better21:32
hastikobut it seems like picking one piece of sand from millions...how do I know what fonts to try?21:32
vanhalen_hastiko: a font install is like 5 megabytes or something, just install several to be sure, get the most popular ones: dejavu, bitstream etc, etc21:32
hastikoi should mention that the same problem happens in Elementary OS which I have on dual boot21:32
hastikosince its based on ubuntu does that tell you anything?21:33
vanhalen_hastiko: i would say try mscore fonts too but that installer seems to be broken21:33
dbz2kreisio, one last questions so using yakkety kenrel most of time should work on ubuntu 16.04?21:33
hastikocan I install all of them at once or have to do one at a time?21:33
reisiodbz2k: most any kernel will work with most any userland21:34
vanhalen_hastiko: ubuntu is the most user-friendly distro out there, and if you cannot even use it then you better give up and go back to windows21:34
OerHeksoh, elementary have its own issues21:34
Cyber_Akuma-TempHmmm, I want to disable the screen from blanking after not being used for a while..... but when I click on Display nothing happens21:34
reisiohastiko: it's hard to imagine someone having purposefully used u+f022 in a filename21:34
reisioprobably some kind of mojibake21:34
Bashing-omDagda: That looks to me that we need to know how encryption works . and that ain't me .21:34
hastikovanhalen: I want to learn but things dont work right...if I should just give up that's not fair21:34
vanhalen_hastiko: you can live with a few broken fonts in your screen, you don't have to fix everything21:35
vanhalen_hastiko: just go read something about unix or go watch the channel flow in #bash or #linux or something21:35
hastikoreisio: those characters are not something I used. When I look at that external drive I see normal file names...its only on Xubuntu 16.04 and Elementary Freya that that weird symbol appears21:35
hastikoI got no asnwers to askubuntu post so I am jsut trying to see why this happens21:35
hastikovanhalen: I can read all day it doesn't solve this as nobody has same issue21:36
hastikoits weird21:36
vanhalen_hastiko: it happens because linux is free and sometimes you shouln't be whining, it is all volunteer work21:36
hastikoand being a noob when weird things happen people just get aggravated andtell you to "go to windows"21:36
hastikoplease stop lecturing me over things I am not doing wrong21:36
hastikoI follow the directions and it doens't work...what else can I do?21:37
setohaving some issues with my sound on my chromebook 00:1b.0 Audio device: Intel Corporation Atom Processor Z36xxx/Z37xxx Series High Definition Audio Controller (rev 0e) i have only hdmi listed for output devices21:37
dbz2kreisio, sorry to keep bothering you, but I am pretty sure these drivers are in mainline https://wireless.wiki.kernel.org/en/users/Drivers/b4321:37
setoon basically newest kernel avail21:37
vanhalen_hastiko: you were helped i think we need to move on21:37
hastikothis is why I get sick of linux every time I try....and I was not helped...problem still exsists21:37
hastikoand you are being rude21:37
reisiohastiko: what type of FS is it?21:37
Jordan_Uhastiko: I don't think that is in any way a font problem. What fikesystem are these files stored on?21:37
reisiodbz2k: so?21:38
hastikoreisio: sorry what is FS?21:38
Cyber_AkumaNeither "Display" nor "Power" start, I see the application icon appear in the tray on the left for a few seconds, then go away21:38
hastikoOh do you mean format? It's a Fat32 external HDD and they were made in OSX21:38
reisiohastiko: what's 'mount' say about it?21:39
Jordan_Uhastiko: Please unmount the filesystem and check it with dosfsck.21:39
dbz2kreisio, I am confused if these are actually open source or are using wrapper to work? I am pretty these are reverse engineered though21:40
hastikoThe HDD isn't attached right now...should I attach it but not mount it?21:40
hastikoI have the external drive here...and I have a couple of the files from it with the weird characters saved on the desktop too..what should I do next?21:41
reisiodbz2k: does it matter?21:41
Jordan_Uhastiko: Attach it (it will automount, that's OK) then unmount it using the umount command.21:41
reisiohastiko: is it from a system whose default language was English?21:42
hastikoreisio: yes....US English and UTF-8 I think21:42
hastikook its attached and has been unmounted21:42
hastikoi unmounted with menu if that matters..not cl21:43
reisiohastiko: never anything but English?21:43
Jordan_Uhastiko: To be clear, those characters in those filenames show up as '.' in OSX?21:43
DagdaBashing-om: That's no problem. At least we've narrowed things down. I appreciate all the help, thanks.21:43
hastikoreisio I may have used british English setting at one point....but not long and not primarily21:43
hastikoJordan_U: Yes21:43
reisiohastiko: you might want to try mounting it with a different codepage21:43
reisiohastiko: -o codepage=850 for example21:44
hastikoreisio: don't know what that means or how to do it sorry21:44
Bashing-omDagda: Let us linger, and see who respondes that does know a bit about booting encryptd system . I am in for a penny - in for a pound .21:44
Jordan_Uhastiko: For now at least, only mount in another code page read only though if you do.21:44
reisiohastiko: mount -o codepage=850 /dev/foo /mnt/path21:44
hastikoJordan_U: also it's not every "." just some of them21:44
reisiohastiko: alternatively, you might check what Mac OS's 'mount' output for the drive is21:44
tikundI am installing Ubuntu server and have a question about setting up the drives in a software raid. Both drives are same size/make/model, my question is... Can I just create a md device by just joining the empty partitions of both drives then having the installer partition the then configured raid device? or is it better to create identical partitions on both drives and then creating multiple raid partitions?21:45
hastikoguys I don't understand sorry....I don't know what to type and what to change21:45
reisiohastiko: did you mount it from the file manager?21:46
Jordan_Ureisio: Do you agree that it's prudent to only mount read only when test mounting with another code page?21:46
hastikoi need step by step directions...21:46
clincksHello gyys, just a small question about docker... Who can help me ?21:46
hastikoreisio: I plugged the HDD in and it automounted...then I selected unmount from the menu21:46
reisioJordan_U: wouldn't bother me, but he's already got it mounted wrong21:46
reisiohastiko: k, unmount it from the menu, then open a terminal21:47
hastikoso tell me what to do step by step and I can start over21:47
reisiohastiko: use sudo lsblk -f to find its device name (/dev/foo#)21:47
hastikook unmounted and terminal open21:47
hastikois there risk to my data before I do any of this?21:47
DagdaBashing-om: Yeah, I'm not going anywhere atm. I'm looking at the bootlog up to being prompted for my encryption key. Only possible flags I see are 'lvmetad is not active yet, using direct activiation during sysinit' and ""Volume group "ubuntu-vg" not found"" "Cannot process volume group ubuntu-vg"21:47
reisiohastiko: then mount it like this: mkdir -p /mnt/test; mount -o codepage=850,ro /dev/foo# /mnt/test21:47
reisiohastiko: then check how the chars look21:48
reisiohastiko: shouldn't be, no21:48
hastikohere is drive I believe: sdb1 vfat   BACKUP HD02 867C-1A1321:48
reisiohastiko: if you want to circumvent the issue altogether, then copy the data off from Mac OS, and then reformat that FS as NTFS21:48
DagdaBashing-om: Once I enter my key, I have no time to see what happens between then and the recovery menu loading.21:49
reisiohastiko: give it a whirl with /dev/sdb1 then21:49
Bashing-omDagda: Uh Huh .. looks like a config issue with the encryption booting . Others here will have to direct our actions as I just do not know.21:49
hastikoI can't right now as I need to use the drive with OSX....so in the codepage command I put sdb in place of foo#?21:49
hastikosdb1 sorry21:49
Jordan_Ureisio: It may be fikesystem corruption rather than an incorrect code page.21:52
hastikoreisio: I don't know what command to run...i don'[t know what parts I am supposed to replace with things21:52
hastikoJordan_U: I have two identical drives that I manually copy files to from OSX as backup...they both do this on Xubuntu and Elementary21:53
Fireaglesciao21:53
hastikoand when I copy the files to xubuntu they still appear messed up like that21:53
fribi've modified /etc/hosts but a hostname still resolves to its old IP address.  How can I fix this?21:54
reisioJordan_U: might be aliens21:54
OerHekshastiko, then come back when you have started xubuntu and drive ready.21:54
hastikoOerHeks: i am on xubuntu now and drive is attached and unmounted21:54
hastikoGuys what do I do next?21:58
OerHeks<reisio> hastiko: then mount it like this: mkdir -p /mnt/test; mount -o codepage=850,ro /dev/foo# /mnt/test where foo would be sdb121:58
reisioie: /dev/sdb1 /mnt/test21:59
hastikomkdir: cannot create directory ‘/mnt/test’: Permission denied21:59
reisioyeah, guess you must prepend 'sudo ' to all those21:59
hastikooh did I not sudo?21:59
hastikosorry21:59
reisioI didn't say sudo, my badzes21:59
hastikorealized it as soon as I messed it up21:59
hastikoi put sudo but it says: mount: only root can use "--options" option22:01
reisiosudo mkdir -p /mnt/test; sudo mount -o codepage=850,ro /dev/sdb1 /mnt/test22:02
reisiothen look in /mnt/test/ and see if the filenames are still crazy22:02
hastikoreisio: how do I look in there? I put cd /mnt/tst and it didnt work22:03
Jordan_Uhastiko: If there are files with problematic names in the root of the filesystem then "sudo ls /mnt/test/".22:04
reisiohastiko: find /mnt/test/ -iname '*bootcamp*drivers*'22:04
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hastikosudo ls /mnt/test/ just put me back where I was....in the home directory ls22:05
hastikowhat exactly do I type?22:06
setohaving some issues with my sound on my chromebook 00:1b.0 Audio device: Intel Corporation Atom Processor Z36xxx/Z37xxx Series High Definition Audio Controller (rev 0e) i have only hdmi listed for output devices22:06
Jordan_Uhastiko: Did it list the files in /mnt/test/ (which should be the files on the root of your USB drive's filesystem) first?22:06
hastikoI dont even know if it made this directory....it didnt have any output and just took me to the prompt22:06
reisioseto: which chromebook is that?22:07
setolenovo n2122:07
reisioseto: if you run 'alsamixer' and change the sound card manually to the 2nd one, does it work?22:07
setothinking gona have to reinstall22:07
reisioseto: nah22:07
Jordan_Uhastiko: Please pastebin the output of "mount".22:07
setolet me see22:07
hastikocan we back up? I don't know where I am suppsoed to be..I don't know how to pastebin...22:08
hastikoI am at the main user prompt...what do I do from here?22:08
reisiohastiko: it what?22:08
reisiohastiko: find /mnt/test/ -iname '*bootcamp*drivers*'22:08
hastikohow?22:08
setojust hdmi22:09
setono other devices22:09
reisioseto: hit F622:09
seto│ Chip: Intel Valleyview2 HDMI                         F2:  System information │22:09
seto│ View: F3:[Playback] F4: Capture  F5: All             F6:  Select sound card  │22:09
seto│ Item: S/PDIF22:09
reisio(in alsamixer)22:09
setoi did22:09
Jordan_Uhastiko: "find" is a command, reisio wants you to literally enter that line into the terminal.22:09
reisioseto: only has 0 hdmi?22:10
hastikothanks..its not clear to me when I should enter somthing verbatim or when soeone is telling me to do something22:10
setoyep22:10
reisiohastiko: give it time22:10
setorunning sstrait deb at moment22:10
hastikofind /mnt/test/ -iname '*bootcamp*drivers*' just gives me a cursor on the next line22:10
setogona have to go back to 16.0422:10
Jordan_Uhastiko: Please run "mount" and pastebin the output.22:11
setothe debian bunch needs to get crap working right22:11
Jordan_U!pastebin | hastiko22:11
ubottuhastiko: For posting multi-line texts into the channel, please use http://paste.ubuntu.com | To post !screenshots use http://imgur.com/ !pastebinit to paste directly from command line | Make sure you give us the URL for your paste - see also the channel topic.22:11
hastikojordan first I need to know HOW to pastebin output..or should I manually cut and paste to the link ubottu gave?22:12
seto0  HDA Intel PCH is what the option by zero is22:12
hastikohttps://paste.ubuntu.com/16821931/22:13
reisioseto: https://github.com/GalliumOS/galliumos-distro/issues/6622:14
reisiolong thread22:14
reisioseto: oh? 0 hda intel pch isn't hdmi, but if it isn't working it isn't working22:14
setowell under volume etc i have only hdmi shown22:14
reisiohastiko: see, it outputs the file with the weird char22:14
reisiohastiko: only it's a ? now instead of f022, so still wrong22:15
reisiohastiko: you say it looks right on Mac OS?22:15
hastikoreisio: Yes. It looks like a yeti head in some places, a " in some places, a FO22 in some places and now a ?22:16
reisiohastiko: but not on Mac OS, right?22:16
hastikoit looks normal on OSX22:16
reisiookay22:16
reisiohastiko: and what capacity is this fat disk?22:16
hastikowhen plugged in and looking at files on the HDD and when looking at the same files savedon OSX22:16
hastikoits 2tb22:16
hastikofat3222:16
reisiooof22:17
reisiohow much is used?22:17
hastikolittle over half22:17
reisioplllb :p22:17
reisiowell it shouldn't be fatddddd22:17
reisiofat*22:17
reisiodo you have the space on another drive to copy data off it, then back on?22:17
hastikowell I did that for easiest cross compatibility and I don't have files over 4gb22:18
hastikothat's what everyone said was best22:18
hastikosince nothing else works on all OSes natively22:18
reisioNTFS does22:18
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setohmm that post looks like it is for chroot linux reisio22:19
setowhich would not apply to this as this is non chromeos now22:19
Jordan_Uhastiko: fat32 volumes larger than 32 GiB aren't even officially supported in Windows, and are far from the best for cross compatability.22:20
setojust gona go back to my working kubuntu install in about half a hour or what ever22:20
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reisiohastiko: you might ask #macosx if they are familiar with the issue22:21
reisiothe simplest solution would be to buy another big disk, copy all the data off it from Mac OS, then reformat it from GNU/Linux, not from Mac OS22:21
reisiosince clearly Mac OS is crazy in this regard :p22:21
reisioand I wouldn't use fat22:21
hastiko_reiso irc was frozen and I dont know what you said before22:21
mrchairmanWhen I ssh into a box as root, does everything I run behave like if I had "sudo" in front of it. Dumb question I know, but I need help22:21
hastiko_does this output tell you why its doing this?22:22
reisiohastiko: you might ask #macosx if they are familiar with the issue22:22
reisiomrchairman: for Ubuntu, yes22:22
hastiko_reisio: nobody from the OSX side even asnwered or tried to help....in any forum or chat22:22
reisiohastiko_: bummer22:22
hastiko_does the output tell you something?22:23
hastiko_all that stuff pasted?22:23
reisiowhat this one? https://paste.ubuntu.com/16821931/22:23
mrchairmanreisio, another question, do people set up accounts for instead of root as "www-data" to ssh into? Would that be common ?22:23
hastiko_yes22:23
hastiko_Jordan_U: did you see the output?22:24
mrchairmanreiso, I wrote that weird, do people make "www-data" ssh accounts? I'm running a webserver22:24
reisiomrchairman: www-data is a generic one applications use, IIRC22:24
Jordan_Uhastiko_: Yes.22:24
hastiko_does it tell you anything?22:24
reisiomrchairman: people do make users for ssh access to hosted data, though, yes22:24
tikundIs this thought process of having an Ubuntu installed on a software RAID 1 array correct.... I at first thought it would be easier if I just created a RAID 1 array using completely empty drives, no partitions at all and then having the installer create partitions on the array that was created.... but.. if a drive fails and I have to boot from only one drive, is it going to actually have the partitions that can be seen w/o the drive being in an array? (for22:24
tikundexample, the root partition and swap partition?22:24
mrchairmanreisio, if I'm on ssh as root, can I change myself to www-data for a few minutes?22:25
hastiko_reisio: why is fat32 bad?22:26
reisiohastiko_: try sudo umount /mnt/test; sudo mount -o codepage=1250,ro /dev/sdb1 /mnt/test; find /mnt/test/ -iname '*bootcamp*drivers*'22:26
[Saint]tikund: yes, it should. RAID1 is a mirrored pair so you should be able to deal gracefully with losing that mirror.22:26
reisiohastiko_: it's not bad, it's just a poor choice, and Mac OS has clearly used some bizarre system for it22:26
reisiomrchairman: su - user22:26
[Saint]tikund: sorry, I'll retract that.22:27
[Saint]tikund: yes, it *will*.22:27
[Saint]Not should, will.22:27
reisiomrchairman: 'exit' to exit22:27
reisiomrchairman: or su - root if you prefer22:27
mrchairmanreiso, thank you man, so su www-data, then bam I'm www-data22:27
tikund[Saint], ok, so I don't need to create the partitions then create an array for each partition?22:27
[Saint]No.22:27
mrchairmanreiso, thanks very much for helping me22:27
reisiotikund: what do you want raid for?22:27
reisiomrchairman: r-e-i-[TAB key]22:27
hastiko_reisio: /mnt/test/Documents/Tech/Bootcamp Drivers 6?201422:27
tikundreisio, RAID 1 array, for redundancy.22:28
reisiotikund: of what, data?22:28
hastiko_you know what? the ? might be a / on OSX22:28
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hastiko_I dont have OSX to check right now...that laptop is borked22:28
tikundreisio, yeah, the server I'm installing Ubuntu on is a server for backups22:28
hastiko_does it change things if it's a /?22:28
reisiohastiko_: well you could check all the possibilities, but it'll be simpler to copy the data off and back onto a new FS22:28
reisiotikund: RAID isn't really for redundancy of data, it's for redundancy of /access/ to data22:29
tikund[Saint], I just wanted to make sure as from what I've read online about setting up a software RAID instructs you to manually create the swap & root partition then create a software RAID array for each of those.22:29
hastiko_reisio: i cant right now as all I have is this laptop with 80gb or so space on it and the two backup drives22:29
[Saint]That's not entirely true.22:29
reisioit actually does the opposite of making data redundant, it kills drives (for the sake of faster /access/)22:29
[Saint]But I would say that RAID1 is a poor choice for redundency.22:29
tikundreisio, uh.. redundancy as in a drive fails I still have my data?22:29
reisiohastiko_: you could get another drive22:30
tikund[Saint], which RAID type is best?22:30
reisiotikund: that's coincidental22:30
tikund6 or 10?22:30
reisiofor data redundancy, no raid22:30
hastiko_i dont want to buy a new hdd just because of some file name issue22:30
reisiohastiko_: so don't22:30
hastiko_there has to be a way to fix this22:30
Jordan_Utikund: RAID is not a replacement for backups. Make sure you have backups.22:30
reisiohastiko_: to be clear, you could get a new drive so you'd have to space to copy data off this drive and back onto it if you wanted (to fix it)22:31
hastiko_well so far nobody can tell me WHY it's happened or how to fix it....just "go to windows" or buy stuff...its frustrating22:31
hastiko_how would that fix it as we dont know what the issue is?22:31
[Saint]I don't think OP suggested RAID /was/ a substitute for backups.22:31
reisiotikund: lots of ways to mirror data on n separate devices other than RAID22:31
[Saint]I think he just wants the server to stay up if a drive fails.22:31
[Saint]which only RAID will solve.22:31
tikund[Saint], yes, correct.22:31
reisiohastiko_: the issue is windows or mac os was used to create this FAT filesystem22:32
reisiohastiko_: and it did it in a strange way22:32
reisiohastiko_: taking this particular FAT filesystem out of the equation would likely circumvent the issue entirely22:32
hastiko_so if I want to use a HDD between OSes how do I do it a not strange way? how do I know creating it on xubuntu won't be weird too in another OS?22:32
reisiono, that is not what RAID is for22:33
reisiopeople use it for that, but it's not advisable22:33
fishhead2567does anyone have any advice for running dual thunderbolt displays?22:33
reisiohastiko_: because GNU/Linux tools are created by enthusiasts that want things to work22:33
reisiohastiko_: Mac OS is created by exclusionists that want only Apple things to work, etc.22:33
hastiko_reisio: funny since nothing I have used on linux works without issue...I want to be able to use it but its always like this22:34
reisiohastiko_: you're probably using a lot of things specifically designed for/by Mac OS, then22:34
Jordan_Uhastiko_: Please unmount the filesystem and try dosfsck. Note however that before you do anything else be sure that you have backups of all files on this USB drive.22:34
tikund[Saint], so yeah, my main question I guess, when creating a software based RAID 1 array, is it best to manually create the identical partitions on both drives and then from that point create an array for each partition.22:35
hastiko_two days just trying to get live USBs working...none of the GUIs worked....nobody could figure out why....software center hangs and will never load...xfburn always has errors....every single thing I try has a problem22:35
[Saint]I think it is pretty hard to argue that failure tolerance isn't an intended function of RAID122:35
hastiko_Jordan_U:  I alread put the drive away as I have to leave22:35
reisio[Saint]: it certainly is, but for the sake of data /access/22:35
hastiko_I dont want to do antyhing thats going to risk the drive right now as everything else is broken22:35
tikundI guess my thought of it is, why have multiple arrays when you can just create a single array of just a 'blank drive' (or the free space whatever you wanna call it) and let the operating system create the partitions.22:36
hastiko_i wanted linux to work for me but nothing works as people say it should and there are constant problems...no idea why22:36
setowhats a good tool for debian linux to make a bootable live ubuntu thumb drive?22:36
reisioif you aren't a big entity with a half dozen or more drives and a /closet of replacement drives at the ready/, it's a silly idea22:36
hastiko_then they say "if you cant handle ubuntu you should leave linux" as if I made it not work correctly22:36
reisioseto: unetbootin should work, dd's great, but use with caution22:36
[Saint]reisio: I feel like you're arguing a point no one actually made. Perhaps I'm not understanding. As far as I understand OP's situation, all he wants if you his server to not fall over if he loses a disk.22:37
hastiko_unetbootin never worked for me...always some failure or problem22:37
reisio[Saint]: then you missed it in the buffer, I asked him explicitly and he said22:37
hastiko_thanks for trying reisio and jordan...I feel like giving up22:37
reisiohastiko_: so give up22:37
hastiko_cant fight the OS every day22:37
[Saint]I'm not disagreeing with you, but I also think it is pretty hard to argue that for the use case a mirrored RAID is indeed quite desirable here.22:38
tikundI said redundancy, I guess I meant more in the terms of system reliability22:38
setono unet for debian22:38
[Saint]Is it the primary function of mirrored RAID? No, hell no. I don't think anyone said it was.22:38
reisio[Saint]: didn't seem so hard when I was doing it a few minutes ago, when I was still interested in this conversation22:38
[Saint]Will it work for OP's use case?22:38
Jordan_Uhastiko_: You're welcome. Do note again that your 2 TiB fat32 filesystem isn't supported by Windows: https://technet.microsoft.com/en-us/library/cc938432.aspx22:38
[Saint]Absolutely.22:38
reisionow there's a terrible argument :p22:38
OerHeksseto, sudo dd  if=/path/to/.iso of=/dev/sd[x] bs=4M ; sync22:38
reisiois duct tape designed for making shoes? No. Can you make shoes out of duct tape? Yes.22:38
* reisio rolls eyes22:39
hastiko_Jordan I wanted OSX and Linux ability...and windows if I had to....Iwas told fat32 will work in windows22:39
hastiko_it won't?22:39
reisiohastiko_: it will, but NTFS would've been a better choice22:39
reisioand not using Mac OS to format the drive in the first place, also22:39
hastiko_NTFS wont work well on OSX22:39
chindyHi, VirtuatBox tells me that VT-x is not available on my System and thusly failed to run Vagrant...but lscpu and /proc/cpuinfo tells me that i infact do have VT-x22:39
reisiohastiko_: it'll work fine22:39
Jordan_Uhastiko_: It will work for volumes <= 32 GiB (and maybe for filesystems <= 128 GiB).22:39
reisiochindy: tells you how?22:39
setooh lovely22:40
[Saint]reisio: I do understand what you're saying but you appear to be framing it as if it would be some terrible misuse of RAID to use RAID1 for the intention of covering your uptime against a disk loss.22:40
setoso theres no gui program to do it?22:40
chindyreisio, VT-x/AMD-V hardware acceleration is not available on your system. Your 64-bit guest will fail to detect a 64-bit CPU and will not be able to boot.22:40
Jordan_Uhastiko_: ntfs-3g works for OSX, but it does require setup.22:40
reisio[Saint]: well I can't help you with your misperceptions22:40
reisioI mean I could if I cared to, I guess22:40
setodoubt ill ever touch debian again22:40
hastiko_well thanks for being patient....i dont know why somuch wird stuff happens or why even simple distros fail to work for me as people say they should22:40
reisiochindy: what in /proc/cpuinfo makes you think otherwise22:40
setothey aperrantly have zero programs to do it22:40
reisioMac OS has ntfs support by default22:40
hastiko_i have tried several times over the years and its always like this22:40
[Saint]I don't think anyone is seriously suggesting this is a replacement for backups. ANd I don't understand your attitude one bit.22:41
Jordan_Ureisio: Read only.22:41
reisioyes indeed22:41
[Saint]"you don't understand and don;t do that 'cos it's stupid but I won't explain at all" has no value.22:41
reisiochindy: ?22:42
chindyreisio, it lists it22:42
reisiochindy: 'it' what?22:42
chindythere... also Intel says so on their website... and lscpu says Virtualisation: VT-X22:43
tikund[Saint], what i'm trying to do isn't using RAID as a backup but.. simply insuring that the system that contains all my backups, doesn't loose data due to drive failure. Am I using RAID in an incorrect way?22:43
tikundensuring**22:43
reisiochindy: can you say what in /proc/cpuinfo makes you think you have vt-x?22:43
chindyreisio, grep --color vmx /proc/cpuinfo22:43
reisiookay22:44
[Saint]tikund: as far as I am concerned, yes.22:44
reisiochindy: check your BIOS22:44
[Saint]Someone else seems to be fairly vocal about otherwise, take that as you will.22:44
hastiko_Jordan_U: I just tried something...to edit the file name and put the / back in place of the yeti head looking symbol and it said "error file names cannot contain /"22:44
tikundSo then what is the best way of ensuring data you want backed up, doesn't get lost due to lets say a drive failure.22:44
hastiko_is that the issue? those files had / in the place that weird symbol is going22:44
reisiotikund: put it on more than one drive22:44
[Saint]it is on more than one drive, it's RAID1.22:45
[Saint]:p22:45
irwisstikund: remote backups to the cloud is one way, raid won't protect you if your house is on fire22:45
hastiko_maybe that's it....I had lots of "/" in file names for dates etc....22:45
reisioraid won't protect you at all22:45
reisioit will wear your drives down faster22:45
reisioand then you'll wish you'd not used it even more22:45
hastiko_reisio: what do you think about that? the "/" ?22:46
[Saint]In what fashion do you believe that a mirrored RAID won't provide any degree of protection?22:46
reisiohastiko_: I think if you look in Mac OS, it should be apparent22:46
setowell ill likely be tossing this chrome book in the trash can22:46
[Saint]It is quite literally two exact mirrors of the same disk.22:46
reisioseto: it's probably fine22:46
[Saint]For it to provide zero value here, you'd need to lose both at once.22:46
setoi do not see any reliable way to make a bootable kubuntu thumb drive from debian22:46
hastiko_reisio:  on osx the / is fine in a file name...but xubutu says its not...so is that why they show up as weird charachters in linux?22:46
[Saint]Which is pretty bloody unlikely.22:46
reisioseto: use dd, then22:46
setohow ?22:46
irwissimo it's not *that* unlikely if they come from same batch22:46
reisiohastiko_: on Mac OS you have 'bootcamp drivers 6/2014' ?22:47
reisioseto: find the device name with sudo lsblk -f22:47
Jordan_Uhastiko_: No, OSX does not allow '/' in a filename. No *NIX possibly could.22:47
hastiko_reisio: yes22:47
[Saint]Now, I am not looking at this to preserve data - don't get me wrong, OP should have multiple on and offsite backups.22:47
reisioseto: be sure it's the right one22:47
irwissbesides, power surge/house fire/emp/etc and they're both cooked :)22:47
reisiohastiko_: is it an ordinary '/', or a fancy one?22:47
hastiko_Jordan_U: but I have files and folders with a / in them on osx and the external HDD and they display on OSX as a /22:47
hastiko_normal22:47
hastiko_i often named things with dates like 29/5 etc22:48
[Saint]I'm just looking at this with a mind to "if one disk fails the server is still (probably) up and will (probably) remain so until you can rectify it (preferably very quickly)".22:48
setoso like sda1 etc?22:48
reisiohastiko_: so is this data copied from Mac OS onto this FAT system?22:48
[Saint]I'm certainly not advocating RAID1 as a replacement for sane backup practice.22:48
hastiko_"2016/3 Records" etc22:48
hastiko_reisio: yes22:48
reisioseto: right, only sda1 specifically is probably not your usb stick22:48
irwissif the server is SO important may be just use a load balancer? it wouldn't be that much more expensive22:48
setoactually it is lol22:48
[Saint]irwiss: that is a fair point.22:49
hastiko_these were two manual backup HDDs I formatted in FAT 32 and copied media and documents to22:49
reisioseto: what's your root/install, then?22:49
hastiko_they aren't system backups just folders and files22:49
reisiohastiko_: with what, Mac OS's file manager?22:49
setomc something or other22:50
Jordan_Uhastiko_: http://www.informit.com/articles/article.aspx?p=1144082&seqNum=522:50
setoit reads like a sd card22:50
reisioseto: mm, okay, well if you're sure22:50
hastiko_reisio: I guess? I formatted the drives in OSX and copied the media and documents manually22:50
irwiss[Saint]: i'm happily running raid0 on 2 ssds for 3 years now which is already a year over my "wanted" mtbf, worst case i get bummed from about 2 hours of work and spend half an hour twiddling thumbs waiting for rsync to bring my stuff back :p22:50
reisioseto: sudo dd if=path/to/install/image of=/dev/sda22:50
reisiohastiko_: okay22:50
hastiko_Jordan_U: that must be the issue eh? But its weird the / displays fine in OSX since you say it shouldnt22:51
reisiohastiko_: let's look at this a different way22:51
setoso image is the iso obviously22:51
reisiohastiko_: run this: sudo umount /mnt/test22:51
reisiohastiko_: then mount it from the file manager again22:51
hastiko_just plug in and mount normally?22:51
Jordan_Uhastiko_: Try using "ls" or "stat" on such a file.22:51
reisiohastiko_: open a terminal from the mounted dir and run this: find . -iname '' (<- copy & paste all this)22:52
hastiko_i had put drive away....just plug it in and let it automount?22:52
reisiohastiko_: oops, I mean -iname '**'22:52
reisiohastiko_: yes22:52
Jordan_Uhastiko_: Or, as they suggest in that article, try running "touch ~/Desktop/foo:bar" and see a file that looks like it's named "foo/bar" appear on your graphcial desktop.22:52
hastiko_getting too many things to do sorry...what should I do first reisio or jordans?22:53
reisiodoesn't matter22:53
hastiko_reisio: i dont know how to open a terminal from the mounted HDD22:53
piotszehi, does anyone know maybe why ubuntu is not always detecting wwan 3g modem after startup (login)?22:53
reisiohastiko_: you can probably right click on any directory in the mounted FS and open terminal here22:54
reisiohastiko_: or note the path at top of the file manager, and cd to that manually22:54
hastiko_ok opened terminal from the folder the bootcamp file is in22:54
Jordan_Uhastiko_: My commands just demonstrate that an OSX file can't actually contain "/" in it, if you believe me (or the article I linked to) then you don't need to try my commands as they just demonstrate that fact.22:54
hastiko_Jordan_U: i am not doubting it says that...but nevertheless I have files on OSX with a / in them22:55
ubuntu481is there a good way to get rid of screen tear?22:55
hastiko_so reisio what do I do now? terminal open22:55
ubuntu481I have an intel hd 530, and a gtx 108022:55
Cyber_Akumavsync?22:55
pradeeppiotsze: funny enough you might to install the driver by downloading to from their site22:55
hastiko_do the find -iname '**' ?22:55
Cyber_AkumaOr gsync if your monitor supports it22:56
pradeepor you install wvdial22:56
reisio**22:56
reisiohastiko_: yes22:56
ubuntu481I tried using compton22:56
hastiko_it says -iname command not found22:56
reisiohastiko_: find . -iname '**'22:56
ubuntu481with a bunch of different vsync options22:56
Cyber_Akumausually it's an in-game option22:56
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scythefwdevenin folks, got a generic linux answer..22:56
Cyber_AkumaThough you can force it through the drivers I think22:56
hastiko_reisio: it shows the files in that folder with the weird yeti head character still22:57
ubuntu481The screen tear is really bad when I'm scrolling pages22:57
ubuntu481in firefox22:57
Cyber_Akumaoh22:57
reisiohastiko_: is that the top-most directory on the drive?22:57
scythefwdI'm about to attempt to install ubuntu 16.04..  been a LONG time since I was a *nix user22:57
hastiko_reisio: I don;t know22:57
scythefwdhows the nvidia support?22:57
ubuntu481I have the drivers installed22:57
ubuntu481they seem alright22:58
reisioscythefwd: proprietary support is the same (fine), the open source driver is always improving22:58
Jordan_Uhastiko_: No, you have files on OSX that OSX's GUI displays as having a '/' in them. OSX's terminal will tell you the truth that a ':' is actualy used. Any program trying to open the file will see the name as having a ':' in it, and yes any other OS will (correctly) display the filename as having a ':' in it.22:58
Cyber_AkumaPretty good, just remember that ti will default to the open source drivers, and you will have to switch to nvidia's propitery one22:58
ubuntu481ah22:58
reisioyou won't have to, no22:58
reisiothe open source drivers are superior for many situations22:58
scythefwdlast time I had to install the nvidia proprietary drivers.. it was with a .sh script, that still the same?22:58
ubuntu481there's a ppa now22:58
scythefwdor is it doen via package manager now?22:58
reisioscythefwd: the ubuntu way does not involve that, but you can do that if you want22:59
Cyber_AkumaNah, it's just a button now in the new repo configuration app22:59
scythefwdawesome.. ppa's are so much better lol22:59
ubuntu481yep, its an official ppa too. pretty awesome22:59
reisiohastiko_: what's 'pwd' say?22:59
piotszepradeep: HP un2430 which is actually the gobi 3000, drivers are already installed in /lib/firmware/hp  "amss.mbn" "uqcn.mbn"22:59
hastiko_reisio: this is what my terminal shows now https://paste.ubuntu.com/16822836/22:59
scythefwdlast I touched it was hoary..22:59
Mr-Kguys, what's the thing with the new extension for scopes in ubuntu?22:59
Mr-Kwould you deprecate .deb files?22:59
reisiohastiko_: okay, run 'cd ../../' and then 'pwd' should say you're at BACKUP HD01/22:59
hastiko_media/toshibalaptop/BACKUP HD01/Documents/Tech toshibalaptop@toshibalaptop:/media/toshibalaptop/BACKUP HD01/Documents/Tech$23:00
Cyber_AkumaI remember trying to get an outdated AMD card for a laptop running in Ubuntu back in 2008 or 2009 or so...... the horror... the horror....23:00
hastiko_this was what 'pwd' said23:00
reisiohastiko_: then run this: find . -iname '**' | wc -l23:00
scythefwdok, chromium use chrome extensions ok?  specifically google cast and adblock?23:00
reisioscythefwd: yes23:00
hastiko_reisio: toshibalaptop@toshibalaptop:/media/toshibalaptop/BACKUP HD01/Documents/Tech$23:00
scythefwdits jsut a fully foss fork of chrome yes? or was it cleanroomed?23:00
reisiohastiko_: run this: cd ../../23:00
reisioscythefwd: chrome is built by taking chromium and adding proprietary bits23:01
reisionot the other way around23:01
hastiko_Jordan_U: so if I understand you right I put a / i the name but its not an actual /? and this is the issue all along? if its really a : why cant linux show it as a :?23:01
scythefwdmake sense23:01
reisioit does, kinda23:01
hastiko_reisio: toshibalaptop@toshibalaptop:/media/toshibalaptop/BACKUP HD01$23:02
reisiohastiko_: okay, that's the top level of your drive23:02
reisiohastiko_: now run this: find . -iname '**' | wc -l23:02
scythefwdsame relationship is rhel and centos, but it starts foss and goes proprietary then vs going fully open23:02
setowell i think dd is working lol23:02
FoolishDaveanyone down to help me figure out why I can't get ubuntu 16 dual booting on an MSI GS60 Ghost Pro 4k?23:02
reisioscythefwd: close to that, sure23:02
setomy drive is flashing so thats a good sign23:02
Jordan_Uhastiko_: I think that the character that you are having a problem with is '.' from the examples you've given, not '/' so I think the '/' vs ':' is unrelated.23:02
reisioseto: yeah old dd doesn't have useful progress output23:02
scythefwdappreciate it..23:03
setonow heres a question23:03
reisioseto: if you want you can open another term and run this: while true; do kill -USR1 $(pgrep -x dd); sleep 10s; done23:03
setoi strip out lots of stuff i do not use23:03
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dbz2kdoes someone know a way to save an old kernel from getting removed from sudo apt-get autoremove?23:03
reisioseto: and that'll show progress on /the original term/23:03
reisioscythefwd: you can use chrome, too, but it'll be an inferior experience23:03
setois there a way i could script it with say apt-get remove lines to remove all the stuff i do not want?23:03
scythefwdI'm not to particularly worried about a light weight wdm.. but hated the unity ui, do they have a vanilla kde, gnome?23:03
reisioscythefwd: yes23:04
hastiko_Jordan_U: i have confirmed its always a / that does this as I looked in the folders where i used a lot of dates23:04
reisioscythefwd: you can install a version of Ubuntu preconfigured to use either of those (and some others), or switch after installation23:04
scythefwdI know.. all beginner questions..23:04
Jordan_Uhastiko_: Interesting.23:04
reisioscythefwd: :)23:04
hastiko_its always in something like 6/2004 and the / is altered to the weird thing23:04
reisioscythefwd: did you want ordinary GNOME? Keep in mind that GNOME 3 is actually not that different from Unity23:04
reisioUnity being mostly GNOME 3, with small changes23:05
scythefwdI know kde and gnome were the defautls at one time..23:05
hastiko_see what I mean? I am a magnet for bizarre stuff like this...makes me so frustrated trying to sort things23:05
scythefwdwell kde it is then :D23:05
hastiko_reisio: toshibalaptop@toshibalaptop:/media/toshibalaptop/BACKUP HD01$  was output of last command23:05
scythefwdalways thought unity would be great on a touchscreen, crap on a mouse/kb setup23:05
reisioscythefwd: okay, so you could install from a Kubuntu image and save yourself a trivial amount of reconfiguration later23:05
reisiohastiko_: should've spat out a number23:05
reisiohastiko_: toshiba...$ is just your prompt23:05
setoof the DEs kde is the most mature i would say23:06
reisiohastiko_: it's always present when your shell is ready for input23:06
hastiko_reisio: tell me again what to type then? maybe I did it wrong23:06
Jordan_Uhastiko_: How does the filename show in the output from "ls" on OSX?23:06
setoall the clients who i have that made the jump to linux love kde plasma23:06
reisiohastiko_: find . -iname '**' | wc -l23:06
scythefwdif thats as simple as a sudu su - && apt-get update && apt-get install kde && apt-get remove gnome.. I should be ok23:06
Jordan_Uhastiko_: (Finish working with reisio before you answer my question though :)23:06
hastiko_Jordan_U: I don't have access to osx right now...that laptop is messed up23:06
reisioseto: most like Windows, anyway23:06
melocThis is beyond obnoxious: https://help.ubuntu.com/community/ReportingBugs23:06
setowell kde plasma is the most windows like23:06
melocI'm not on a Desktop and the application isn't crashing in a way I can capture.23:07
reisioscythefwd: I wouldn't say it's that simple, but close to it23:07
melochow do I just file a bug already?23:07
setoso it makes the change over pretty easy23:07
reisioscythefwd: you will save time installing from Kubuntu, if you want KDE, but it's not a huge deal23:07
setoany one who does not do gaming or 3d art has no need for windows mostly23:07
scythefwdlol.. I'm not against other type environments.. I do know windows fairly well.. but I've used a couple others23:07
hastiko_reisio: toshibalaptop@toshibalaptop:/media/toshibalaptop/BACKUP HD01$23:07
setolibre office or apache office replace ms office perfectly23:07
scythefwdmy gaming that I do was developed on linux..23:07
reisioscythefwd: you can always change later, but no harm choosing one for starting with23:07
setothey both read write etc ms office formats with out flaws23:07
scythefwdseto.. no where near on that one23:07
reisiohastiko_: toshiba...$ is just your prompt23:07
reisiohastiko_: it's always present when your shell is ready for input23:07
scythefwdthey're great for the home user for sure23:08
hastiko_you said that...but thats what the command you gave me spits out sory23:08
reisiohastiko_: there should be a number between the previous prompt and the last one23:08
scythefwdbut put a power user behind ms vs. libre, and you'll see the differences come out (a master of both that is)23:08
setobrb to try and boot kubuntu23:08
reisionot sure you can be a power user and use Windows :p23:08
hastiko_maybe I am running it from the wrong place...can we back up?23:09
reisiohastiko_: what's 'pwd' say?23:09
scythefwdwhile cute reisio.. I've ran full blown hypervisors that took up 225mb installed that were windows23:09
hastiko_hdd is mounted....i went in file manager to a folder that contains the bootcamp file with the odd charachter and right clicked on that parent folder to open terminal23:09
scythefwdbut I'm not gonna get into a tit for tat.. both very much have their advantages23:09
reisioscythefwd: not sure what that's supposed to mean23:09
reisiohastiko_: what's 'pwd' say?23:10
hastiko_reisio: "/media/toshibalaptop/BACKUP HD01 toshibalaptop@toshibalaptop:/media/toshibalaptop/BACKUP HD01$ "23:10
TGVoidreisio: Do you know the most efficient cluster value for ddrescue?23:10
scythefwdthe power user thing.. just saying the windows environment isn't as stunted as a lot of folks think23:10
angel1604excuse to prevent the laptop overheats there is something for ubuntu?23:11
reisiohastiko_: find . -iname '*bootcamp*driver*'23:11
reisioTGVoid: nope23:11
reisioscythefwd: because it has a hypervisor? :) let's not talk about this :D23:12
reisioangel1604: that's kind of up to the hardware manaufacturer23:12
Jordan_UTGVoid: First, be sure you're using GNU ddrescue. It should start with the fastest block size automatically.23:12
HackerIIi used hyperion, eeww23:12
hastiko_reisio: ./Documents/Tech/Bootcamp Drivers 62014 toshibalaptop@toshibalaptop:/media/toshibalaptop/BACKUP HD01$  except the FO22 box shows the yeti head instead in terminal...it just wont paste here as that23:12
scythefwdok, there any usb 3 addin pci-e cards that are good supported in ubuntu ?  I'm expecting there is, just want to verify brand.. been burned a long time ago (90's) with HW support23:12
scythefwdscarred I'd say lol23:12
reisiohastiko_: okay23:12
reisiohastiko_: paste it in here anyway23:12
hastiko_Jordan_U: i checked all files I know with the yeti symbol and they are all /23:12
reisiohastiko_: between quotation marks23:12
hastiko_I did above23:13
hastiko_just noting that it didnt display as FO22 in terminal23:13
reisiohastiko_: okay23:13
hastiko_reisio: ./Documents/Tech/Bootcamp Drivers 62014 toshibalaptop@toshibalaptop:/media/toshibalaptop/BACKUP HD01$23:13
reisiohastiko_: and this reports nothing? find . -type f -iname '**' | wc -l23:13
hastiko_its always a / that does it23:13
reisiohastiko_: excuse me23:14
reisiohastiko_: and this reports nothing? find . -iname '**' | wc -l23:14
hastiko_reisio: 185 toshibalaptop@toshibalaptop:/media/toshibalaptop/BACKUP HD01$23:14
reisiowithout -type f23:14
TGVoidJordan_U: Thanks. I'll change the value to default.23:14
reisiohastiko_: the toshiba...$ is just your prompt, it has nothing to do with the commands run23:14
hastiko_reisio: 190 toshibalaptop@toshibalaptop:/media/toshibalaptop/BACKUP HD01$23:15
Jordan_UTGVoid: You're welcome.23:15
reisioif you run a command and only get a new prompt, then there was nothing returned23:15
reisioyou can say 'nothing'23:15
reisiohastiko_: oh okay, 185, 19023:15
hastiko_reisio: you keep saying that but I am just posting what is output...ok23:15
* reisio laughs23:15
angel1604reisio, my cpu  is ivy brigdge is 56-60 c23:15
reisiohastiko_: okay, so there are only about 190 of these files23:15
reisiohastiko_: you might just fix them manually and get on with your day23:15
angel1604is normal?23:15
hastiko_I am just jumping like a monkey and doind what you say...no idea what I am actually doing sorry23:15
reisioangel1604: which model?23:16
hastiko_ok23:16
hastiko_so we figured out its the /23:16
scythefwdyes reisio, I'm running windows atm.. no need to version me lol23:16
angel1604hp probook 4540s23:16
hastiko_and that unix doesnt let / in file or directory names right?23:16
dbz2kanyone know to how to keep old kernels?23:16
dbz2kfrom getting removed from sudo apt-get autoclean23:16
scythefwdcopy them off as a .bak before you autoclean?23:16
Jordan_Uhastiko_: Correct.23:16
TJ_Hey guys. Got a pretty big problem on my friend's machine.23:17
hastiko_good lord....all that because I used a / and shouldnt have23:17
dbz2kscythefwd, doesn23:17
dbz2kscythefwd, I thought autoclean removes the package?23:17
hastiko_Jordan_U: why do you think OSX woudn;t warn me or not allow that?23:17
dbz2kor is it just cache23:17
hastiko_and why would linux turn it into some bizarre yeti looking symbol23:18
crs___can you have ':' in a filename on fat32 ? maybe thats why its this strange 'yeti head' now23:18
scythefwdif you copy the kernel off before you autoclean.. it doesnt remove the copy23:18
SchrodingersScat!man | dbz2k23:18
ubottudbz2k: The "man" command brings up the Linux manual pages for the command you're interested in. Try "man intro" at the  command line, or see https://help.ubuntu.com/community/UsingTheTerminal | Manpages online: http://manpages.ubuntu.com/23:18
reisioscythefwd: no reason to tell me that, I version'd you :p23:18
hastiko_crs___: so I put a / and OSX makes it a : and linux makes that a yeti?23:18
scythefwdI know :D23:18
Jordan_Uhastiko_: I'm honestly surprised that it didn't warn you when you tried to create such a filename.23:18
Bashing-omTJ_: Has my attention .23:18
reisiohastiko_: this command should replace the strange chars with hyphens: find . -iname '**' | while IFS='' read -r line; do mv -n "$line" "$(echo "$line" | sed 's//-/g')"; done23:18
hastiko_Jordan_U: yeah it never did and I used the / a ton in dates23:18
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reisioJordan_U: some HFS+ concession?23:19
SchrodingersScat!ask | Dachi23:19
ubottuDachi: Please don't ask to ask a question, simply ask the question (all on ONE line and in the channel, so that others can read and follow it easily). If anyone knows the answer they will most likely reply. :-) See also !patience23:19
hastiko_reisio I have to go for a bit...will savethis command and try later...do I use the whole thing? done is included or you were saying "done"23:19
reisiohastiko_: everything after 'with hyphens: '23:20
hastiko_so the ; done included then ok23:20
reisioyup23:20
scythefwdany hw guru's?23:21
hastiko_reisio: can that be run from any level or it needs to be in a terminal opened from the HDD?23:21
reisiohastiko_: you'd want to run it from the top dir of the drive23:22
reisiohastiko_: from /media/toshibalaptop/BACKUP HD01/23:22
hastiko_so I need to open a terminal in the drive like before...not a normal system terminal23:22
hastiko_ok23:22
hastiko_so cd to that and then add the command right?23:22
reisioyou can open a terminal anywhere and run 'cd /media/toshibalaptop/[TABKEY]'23:22
reisioright23:22
hastiko_ok23:23
scythefwdwell, lets see how this install goes lol..23:23
hastiko_will do it in a bit when I come back....23:23
hastiko_so I am pretty broke but if I made a small donation to something as a thank you where would you want me to?23:23
Jordan_Uhastiko_: reisio: I just grabbed a machine with OSX and indeed it did let me create "foo/bar" in the GUI, and indeed it did let me created it, and inded "ls" from OSX shows the file is actually named "foo:bar". I don't know why the files aren't just showing up as ':' in Ubuntu.23:23
hastiko_Jordan_U: maybe we can get a bounty from apple for finding this eh? ;)23:24
crs___i repeat: maybe because you cant have : in a fat32 filename ?23:24
reisioJordan_U: try copying them with Mac OS's file manager to a fat32 system23:24
hastiko_crs___: are you saying that you cannot? or surmising?23:25
SchrodingersScatyeti's, all of them23:25
reisioprobably, as with NTFS & Windows, the filesystem supports more than the file manager does23:25
crs___i dont know but wikipedia says it is a reserved character. cant test right now23:25
reisioSchrodingersScat: twss23:26
scythefwdmaking a bootable usb stick.. suggestions?23:26
SchrodingersScat!liveusb | scythefwd23:26
ubottuscythefwd: For information about installing Ubuntu from USB flash drives, see https://help.ubuntu.com/community/Installation/FromUSBStick - For a persistent live USB install, see: https://wiki.ubuntu.com/LiveUsbPendrivePersistent23:26
Jordan_Ucrs___: https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Comparison_of_file_systems says that fat32 supports any Unicode except Null. Where are you seeing ':' not being allowed?23:26
reisioscythefwd: Kubuntu, unetbootin?23:26
hastiko_ok I have to run for a bit...thanks for taking the time....23:26
SchrodingersScatscythefwd: xubuntu, dd23:27
hastiko_reisio: do you have a charity or project you want a donation sent to?23:27
hastiko_cant afford much..after all I am on a 10yo laptop...but you spent a long time on it23:27
crs___there is a comparison table on the 'Filename' article23:27
reisiono, thanks that's okay23:27
Jordan_Uhastiko_: I have an OSX systemd for the moment, once I find a USB drive I will test this myself. Please do come back and maybe the mystery will be solved (but probably not:).23:27
SchrodingersScatplant a tree?23:27
OerHeks!cookie reisio23:27
crs___https://en.m.wikipedia.org/wiki/Filename23:27
Amm0nscythefwd, grub2: https://wiki.archlinux.org/index.php/Multiboot_USB_drive23:28
SchrodingersScat!botsnack | reisio23:28
ubottureisio: Yum! Err, I mean, APT!23:28
hastiko_thanks guys...if you change your mind about donation let me know...you spent half a day on this23:28
hastiko_be back later23:28
scythefwdlol.. shrodinger, that would r equire I install xubuntu on a system.. right now  I'm windows and osx purely23:28
SchrodingersScatscythefwd: osx may have dd?23:28
scythefwdlol.. I'm gonna try out a utility called rufus23:29
scythefwdsupposeldy makes the disk with a mbt / uefi compatable table before writing your iso's to them..23:29
anonymous_why i cant send menssage to chanel #ubuntu-es?23:30
Sebastienscythefwd unetbootin is still my favorite for this task.23:30
scythefwdif that doesnt work, I'll spin up a ubuntu virtual pc and go from there23:30
Sebastienanonymous_ you need a registered nickname and be auth to it. see: /msg nickserv help register23:30
FoolishDaveSo I'm trying to install ubuntu 16.04 alongside windows 10 on my MSI GS60, I got it installed, but windows 10 still boots without me getting to choose to go into ubuntu. Do I need to hold a key to get into grub?23:31
extinct_potatoAre you sure you installed GRUB on the correct partition?23:31
scythefwdwrite grup to your mbt, then have it pointing to windows for that selection23:32
Jordan_UFoolishDave: You shouldn't need to. Please boot from an Ubuntu LiveUSB and pastebin the output of "efibootmgr".23:32
scythefwdor if you're doing efi.. do you install on first partition23:32
FoolishDaveI have issues booting into the LiveUSB, when it gets to desktop no panels show up and I can't get anything to happen23:32
Jordan_UFoolishDave: How did you install Ubuntu then?23:33
FoolishDaveoh, I guess I still used the liveusb, I can't just get to the "try ubuntu" part23:33
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FoolishDaveI used the "Install Ubuntu" option23:34
Jordan_UFoolishDave: OK. Just so you know, even after we fix the problem of Ubuntu not booting, you'll probably get the same problem with the installed Desktop as you had with the "Try Ubuntu" option. Can you boot from an Xubuntu LiveUSB?23:34
FoolishDaveI haven't tried Xubuntu, I'll do that now23:35
scythefwdhrm.. well that was a nogo23:36
newguyubuntuhello, i am having trouble with the eclipse-pydev package and was wondering if anyone could provide some assistance23:37
newguyubuntuubuntu 16.04 LTS23:37
newguyubuntui installed the eclipse-pydev package without issues i let it install everything it asked for, but when i open eclipse pydev is no where to be found23:38
newguyubuntuanyone here have axperiance with the eclipse-pydev package on ubuntu 16.04 LTS?23:39
scythefwdlooks like I need a new mobo or proc..23:40
scythefwdor very possibly both..23:40
newguyubuntuthat sux23:40
newguyubuntuwhats going on?23:40
Bashing-om!patience | newguyubuntu23:40
ubottunewguyubuntu: Don't feel ignored and repeat your question quickly; if nobody knows your answer, nobody will answer you. While you wait, try searching https://help.ubuntu.com or http://ubuntuforums.org or http://askubuntu.com/23:40
Guest97362i've downloaded a source package from repos23:42
DagdaBashing-om: I made a post describing my issue on the forums. I was able to find some related issues but no solution that I can make sense of. If you want to follow the thread you can find it here: http://ubuntuforums.org/showthread.php?t=2326223&p=13496734#post1349673423:42
Guest97362dsc, orig.tar.xz and debian,tar.xz23:42
scythefwdrandom reboots after running for a few moments new23:42
Guest97362and i've mdofied  thisprogram with some patches     "and i've added to /debian/patches folder and series file23:42
DagdaBashing-om: thanks again for your help.23:43
Bashing-omDagda: :) .. K .. will join you there .23:43
Guest97362but    i  need  create tehe source package again  "oring and debian"23:43
Guest97362How can i make it? "total newbie about packagin23:43
anonymous_hola23:44
Bashing-omDagda: Now that is a good post ! Now we again await a reply .23:46
anonymous__ok but how i can logg in in a chanel?23:47
[Saint]anonymous__: sorry, what?23:47
DagdaBashing-om: The only thing that might give you more insight is the last link I posted, but it's a UNIX thread. I'm not sure if it's even the same issue. I seem to recall that I still received the warnings about lvmetad when I could still login and had no issues. I suspect it's an issue with the LUKS greeter but I've no idea how to troubleshoot that.23:47
[Saint]anonymous__: do you perhaps mean, this"23:48
[Saint]https://freenode.net/kb/answer/registration23:48
DagdaBashing-om: Indeed. I'm going to go and rest my brain for a while. Thanks again :-D23:48
anonymous__i register in ubuntu-es but i dont know how logg with mi usename23:48
[Saint]s/"/?/g23:48
[Saint]anonymous__: see the provided url please23:48
Bashing-omDagda: Have a good one ,, I would say that I wish I knew ,, but that would be a lie as I do not want to know encryption .23:49
anonymous__yes i see23:49
anonymous__i cant23:51
DagdaBashing-om: You're obviously too nice a person to have any adversaries ;-) Take care.23:52
[Saint]anonymous__: nickerv tells me you managed to do so 14 minutes ago.23:52
[Saint]anonymous__: either way, general IRC support should be handled at #freenode23:52
[Saint]none of this is Ubuntu-specific.23:53
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[Saint]Errr...sorry, 4 minutes, not 14.23:53
letsseehi everyone. I moving files between my two external drives, Suddendly got an error message. 10GB of family pictures being moced just went missing.Disapeared from source and target23:53
[Saint]You registered 14 minutes ago, you touched that account 4 minutes ago.23:53
letsseepls  help23:53
anonymous_u dont speak spanish?23:54
letsseeany command or app to solve this problem? thanks a lot23:54
[Saint]anonymous__: I do, but, not here I don't.23:54
anonymous__i can? speak spanish one moment?23:55
[Saint]Not here, no.23:55
anonymous__okey go ubuntu-es-cafe?23:55
[Saint]letssee: whatever you do end up doing it is pretty important to remove those drives from the system to ensure they don't get written to.23:56
[Saint]you don't want to write over any data there is a chance of recovering.23:56
letsseecool23:56
letsseethanks Saint23:56
letsseeso should I remove them?23:56
Bashing-omletssee: Be aware, so long as you do not write to those hard drives, your files are still there .. getting them night be a trickm; See: https://help.ubuntu.com/community/DataRecovery .23:57
[Saint]Unmount them for the meantime, Then you might want to consider taking a look at PhotoRec.23:57
letsseeand which drive should I try to get the moved files from? The source or the destination drive?23:57
anonymous__my problem is i cant chat to ubuntu-es im registered in freenode but i cant23:58
letsseePhotoRec? ok, great23:58
[Saint]just curious - is there any reason you elected to move, instead of copy?23:58
[Saint]That was kinda ballsy on your part.23:58
[Saint]Can I say 'ballsy', errr...courageous?23:58
setowell back on kubuntu 16.04 and ev thing working23:58
[Saint]Yeah, that'll do.23:58
setomaybe in another 10 years debian will be where ubuntu is now ....23:59
[Saint]I hope not.23:59
letsseeyes,I decided to move to cleanup the source23:59
letsseeI thought about copuing themfirst23:59

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