[00:02] <NorbyDroid> BBL
[00:18] <goddard> anyone put Google chrome in a snap package?
[00:19] <user2635> I still can't get lightdm to how it was before
[00:19] <user2635> how do I restore it to unity greeter
[00:19] <user2635> it's xubuntu at the moment
[00:19] <TenLeftFingers> user2635: I've had the same problem recently. The answer is on AskUbuntu. You have to make a minor edit to a file.
[00:20] <NoCode> Weird, I can't get ubuntu installed with unetbootin. So now I will try usb-creator
[00:20] <NoCode> I never remember having this much trouble. :|
[00:20] <user2635> TenLeftFingers, think I got it
[00:21] <user2635> TenLeftFingers, I'll try it and see what happens
[00:23] <goddard> anyone put Google chrome in a snap package?
[00:24] <guest_uRockNeeds> Installed updates last night, after restarting I no longer have panels just a blank background and a cursor
[00:24] <guest_uRockNeeds> I needs help
[00:26] <clownkiller> NoCode: are you using a USB drive with FAT support? Some of my newer drives only support exFAT and NTFS and they wouldn't work to boot ubuntu
[00:26] <guest_uRockNeeds> I have tried reinstalling ubuntu-desktop, reseting unity, and still get nothing  ---I am able to log into other accounts, but not my primary account
[00:28] <NoCode> clownkiller, I've used these drive to install Ubuntu before. :)
[00:29] <NoCode> Getting some sort of sys error black screen. Windows 7 booted fine.
[00:30] <goddard> guest_uRockNeeds: you got xsession errors or xsession lock files?
[00:31] <goddard> try deleting them and then reboot and see what the xsession error file says and delete lock files
[00:32] <User_> hi, do u know if xchat2 2.8.8 can be installed in ubuntu 16.4 x64 ?
[00:32] <clownkiller> NoCode: If usb-creator doesn't work I'd try re-downloading the iso then try unetbootin again
[00:32] <guest_uRockNeeds> goddard, where do I find those? thanks
[00:33] <goddard> in your home folder
[00:33] <lerner> how do I dim my backdrop light?
[00:33] <lerner> the screen is too shinny
[00:33] <goddard> guest_uRockNeeds: your users home folder
[00:34] <lemler3> anyone out there who can help set up 3 monitors?
[00:34] <Sayona> Question: Ubuntu fixed the problem with nvidia drivers? Becouse I have a nvidia 740m and if I install the drivers... give me black screen
[00:35] <Guest67757> ok
[00:35] <guest_uRockNeeds> goddard, thanks will try
[00:35] <lemler3> my seem to work and i have the 770 are u using the tested version ?
[00:35] <Guest31715> i have nvidia driver 550M how drive i should to use
[00:35] <Sayona> now not use ubuntu becouse haved problem with drivers
[00:36] <Sayona> lemler3: when you install the ubuntu?
[00:36] <Sayona> stable
[00:36] <Guest31715> yes
[00:36] <lemler3> i just switched to mate lol its all classic looking
[00:36] <Guest31715> today
[00:37] <Guest67757> on usb key or dvd
[00:37] <Guest31715> usb
[00:37] <Sayona> lol
[00:37] <Sayona> what work "lol" :))))
[00:37] <Guest67757> bah oui
[00:38] <lemler3> im loost
[00:38] <Guest67757> si t es sur windows
[00:38] <Guest67757> tu vas dans google
[00:38] <Guest67757> tu tape ubuntu 16
[00:38] <dax> Guest67757: #ubuntu-fr for French-language discussion, please
[00:38] <guest_uRockNeeds> goddard, the .xsession-errors file = init: dbus pre-start process (2806) terminated with status 2
[00:38] <Guest67757> tu telecharge le fichier iso
[00:38] <Guest67757> oops
[00:38] <lemler3> lol
[00:38] <Guest67757> go to ubuntu website
[00:39] <Guest67757> u can download free
[00:39] <guest_uRockNeeds> no locks
[00:39] <Guest67757> locks?
[00:40] <Guest67757> search 14.04.LTS
[00:40] <guest_uRockNeeds> I'll be back
[00:40] <BrianBro> hey
[00:41] <Sayona> Do love with linux not war !
[00:41] <BrianBro> ok
[00:42] <Guest67757> i have a problem
[00:43] <Bashing-om> !ask | Guest67757
[00:43] <Guest67757> i need install halo 2 Online on my ubuntu
[00:44] <_uRockNeeds> Script for ibus started at run_im.
[00:44] <_uRockNeeds> Script for auto started at run_im.
[00:44] <_uRockNeeds> Script for default started at run_im.
[00:44] <_uRockNeeds> init: dbus pre-start process (1945) terminated with status 2
[00:44] <_uRockNeeds> init: logrotate main process (1944) killed by TERM signal
[00:44] <Guest67757> if someone can help me with team viewer
[00:44] <NorbyDroid> For patience skills (and others) try programming.
[00:44] <_uRockNeeds> goddard, the output of the latest .xsession-errors
[00:45] <NorbyDroid> Bashing-om: I am running tests on the drive.  Also I will try a 'virtual' install and trial to see if that suceeds.
[00:46] <NorbyDroid> Didn't think of doin it virtually.
[00:46] <Bashing-om> NorbyDroid: K .. I maintain my interest .
[00:47] <_uRockNeeds> I wonder if this line from syslog has anything to do with no desktop panels and icons. "5FDP gnome-session[2499]: GLib-CRITICAL: g_environ_setenv: assertion 'value != NULL' failed"
[00:48] <NorbyDroid> Crazy as I am my plan, if all goes well, is to have the barest installed in a CLI environment with just a specific compiler and my project installed on a laptop (old 32bit).  I was crazier and was gonna do it via DOS, but swapped over to a Linux CLI instead.
[00:51] <lerner>   xbacklight -dec 10 returned No outputs have backlight property
[00:51] <lerner> help please
[00:55] <Bashing-om> NorbyDroid: I am a proponent of minimalistics . Funtionality 1st . Terminal ! Way to go !
[00:56] <c31f4d0r> good evening! I'm trying to record my screen using ( DESKTOP RECORDER ) RecordtNow only that the program only records the notebook microphone audio and not the audio of the site you want . already tried all settings ... can someone give me a hint ?
[00:57] <NorbyDroid> Bashing-om: Thank you.  I am a DOS user at heart.  Miss it.
[01:00] <Bashing-om> NorbyDroid: Giving my age away .. I came up before there was a GUI .. and have never been as comfortable in GUI as I am in terminal .. I think better terminally .
[01:00] <TheOtherPapistSu> Hey. I have an issue with a user-made Linksys AE6000 driver. (https://bitbucket.org/sanrath/mediatek_mt7610u_sta_driver_linux-64bit) It seems to have stopped working with a new kernel. I don't know how to fix the code, but there must be someone who should I go to/what should I do? (Btw, I'm running Ubuntu 16.04 x64)
[01:01] <TheOtherPapistSu> *who can. Should
[01:01] <Norux> short question guys. I have a shell script on my Desktop, and when I try running it, it gets opened in emacs. How can I fix that?
[01:01] <NorbyDroid> Bashing-om: Givin away mine, I remember the says before there was a personal computer where we used old dial-up modems a very slow speeds in Quantum Link.  lol
[01:02] <NorbyDroid> >days<
[01:02] <TheOtherPapistSu> Norux: I assume you've marked it as an executable and started it with "#!/bin/bash"?
[01:02] <Norux> TheOtherPapistSu, yes
[01:02] <Queenslayer> anyone else had issues with chromium?
[01:02] <_uRockNeeds> Any thoughts on what .conf file could be causing on user account to go to a paneless desktop, while other accounts have no problems?
[01:03] <Bashing-om> NorbyDroid: Well too far off topic here .. we do this in #ubuntu-discuss .
[01:03] <Queenslayer> The flash in Chromium stutters like no tomorrow
[01:03] <Norux> Queenslayer, do you use pepperflash
[01:03] <TheOtherPapistSu> Norux: Have you tried adjusting the executable setting in Nautilus?
[01:04] <Queenslayer> Norux, I think I might have
[01:04] <Norux> TheOtherPapistSu, Nautilus is file manager right? I tried it using chmod and the filemanager.
[01:04] <quietone> can't boot 16.04, gets this error: tpm_crb MSFT0101:00: can't request region for resource
[01:04] <Norux> Queenslayer, I'd check that
[01:05] <_uRockNeeds> Norux, right click and open with?
[01:05] <Norux> _uRockNeeds, there's no terminal or console in the list
[01:05] <TheOtherPapistSu> Norux: Yes, Nautilus is the file manager. :) There should be a setting (I'm on Windows right now unfortunately) to affect the behavior of double clicking executables.
[01:06] <TheOtherPapistSu> Norux: Try this: https://askubuntu.com/questions/286621/how-do-i-run-executable-scripts-in-nautilus
[01:06] <TheOtherPapistSu> norux: Or just navigate to it from the Terminal.
[01:06] <Queenslayer> Norux, what about it in particular?
[01:07] <Queenslayer> Do I have to remove it?
[01:07] <Norux> TheOtherPapistSu, thanks a lot ;)
[01:07] <TheOtherPapistSu> Norux: You're welcome. Glad to help.
[01:07] <Norux> Queenslayer, check if it's installed and up to date
[01:07] <Queenslayer> ah thanks Norux I'll check
[01:07] <Queenslayer> reluctant to try it
[01:07] <Queenslayer> It's happening on the latest update
[01:08] <Queenslayer> Firefox works fine
[01:09] <_uRockNeeds> I've read about purging nvidia, but I don't think that is the issue since my other accounts can log in fine
[01:10] <kelvin_> ---
[01:10] <kelvin_> ?
[01:12] <_uRockNeeds> What would happen if I rename the user file in the /Home/.config/dconf?
[01:14] <OerHeks> _uRockNeeds, alt f2 > typing ccsm and select unity launcher gain
[01:15] <OerHeks> some reinstall compiz, that would be the other way
[01:16] <samthewildone> How do I remove "user@localhost" from my terminal ? I just want to see a "~".
[01:17] <dax> samthewildone: put in .bashrc export PS1="\w "
[01:17] <samthewildone> dax, way ahead of you chap > http://apple.stackexchange.com/questions/34910/how-to-hide-computer-name-and-user-name-in-terminal-command-prompt
[01:17] <samthewildone> dax, thanks though.
[01:18] <samthewildone> dax, where do I add it ?
[01:19] <dax> at the end of the file .bashrc in your home directly
[01:19] <dax> directory*
[01:19] <spider12384> hello everyone!
[01:25] <uRock> tried renaming the config file in compiz directory, the user in the dconf, and stillunable to get into the user account. any thoughts as to how to fix the one account not having panels nor icons would be great
[01:26] <OerHeks> uRock, alt f2 > type ccsm and select unity launcher again
[01:26] <OerHeks> some reinstall compiz, that would be the other way
[01:27] <uRock> OerHeks, I will give that a go, thanks
[01:27] <OerHeks> it might ask a few questions, as one setting caused this failure
[01:28] <uRock> will try
[01:28] <Bashing-om> uRock: Verify access authority ? ' ls -al /home/<username> ' do you own /Xauthority and .ICEaithority  " also check in /var/run/lightdm/root/ .
[01:32] <etason> Anyone willing to help out in installing GRUB on a RAID-10 setup?? Keep getting errors thrown in my face whenever I try different things and nothing online is working for me
[01:33] <uRock> OerHeks, Alt F2 doesn't do anything
[01:33] <uRock> I did install the compizconfig-settings-manager
[01:34] <uRock> Still starts with no panels, nor icons
[01:34] <OerHeks> and ctrl alt t - terminal
[01:35] <uRock> will try, if I get booted, then it didn't work. I restart lightdm to get back to my other account
[01:35] <B0g4r7_> etason, I would consider breaking /boot out into a separate fs on some kind of a less complex volume/container format.
[01:36] <etason> What would that entail?
[01:37] <uRock> OerHeks, Terminal won't open
[01:38] <uRock> If I use ctrl alt F1, that works, but can't run ccsm from there
[01:38] <WattisLove> Hello I just tested encfs with the community page instructions and I've found it's easy to use and it works. I now want to make my own encrypted folder and mount point with the names of my choice (e.g. I followed the tutorial exactly and created .encrypted and /visible folders). I've already got all the test data out of the folders. Now how do I properly delete the folders so that encfs knows I'm no longer using them for encryption? thx
[01:42] <uRock> OerHeks, would you recommend renaming the .config folder or is that going too far?
[01:42] <B0g4r7_> It must be "folder" day.
[01:42] <uRock> WHy you folding?
[01:42] <B0g4r7_> about to
[01:43] <OerHeks> renaming might be an option, sure
[01:44] <uRock> I' going to give it a try. I know which configs are important to me and will drop them back into the new folder as needed.
[01:44] <WattisLove> I've thought of just deleting the ./encrypted and /visible dirs and then creating the new folders, but is that the correct way?
[01:54] <uRock> renaming the .config folder and the .gconf folder didn't help
[02:03] <neredsenvy> I have a bootable Win10 USB Stick why does it not show up under BOOT MENU ?
[02:04] <uRock> Has me wondering what other conf files I can rename
[02:04] <neredsenvy> I only get the UBuntu HD as boot option
[02:04] <neredsenvy> The USB worked before
[02:04] <neredsenvy> Ubuntu installation
[02:05] <uRock> neredsenvy, was it plugged in when you installed?
[02:05] <neredsenvy> huh ?
[02:06] <OerHeks> time to read the manual howto boot from usb
[02:06] <neredsenvy> When I installed Ubuntu I did not have me Win USB stick in
[02:06] <hastiko> Anyone on 16.04? The Software Center is terribly slow for me. How is it for you?
[02:06] <hastiko> Granted I have poor internet...but Ubuntu Software Center in 14.04 wasn't nearly this slow
[02:07] <hastiko> wondering if I have something configured wrongly
[02:07] <uRock> neredsenvy, if it wasn't plugged in, then the grub loader couldn't see it. You may have to drop to bios and select what drive to boot from
[02:07] <neredsenvy> OerHeks: I see Ubuntu is garbage
[02:07] <neredsenvy> I did
[02:08] <neredsenvy> I shut down the PC pressed F12 selected BOOT SELECT MENU
[02:08] <uRock> ubuntu has nothing to do with your bios boot menu
[02:08] <neredsenvy> I only get main HD with Ubuntu installation it does not detect the Win USB
[02:08] <OerHeks> maybe faulty win10 usb, who can tell?
[02:08] <neredsenvy> uRock: Prior to Ubuntu installation it detected all bootable drives
[02:08] <neredsenvy> It's detected by my second PC
[02:08] <uRock> ubuntu doesn't touch the bios
[02:09] <neredsenvy> both USB's 7 and 10
[02:09] <neredsenvy> and the Ubuntu USB
[02:11] <drama> neredsenvy,  how did you make the usb stick
[02:11] <drama> theres a linux app for that
[02:11] <drama> for windows even
[02:11] <ktinux> Does anyone know why ubuntu logs me out right after logging in?
[02:12] <neredsenvy> It was made on Windows using the Windows Download Tool worked without any issues on countless PC's
[02:12] <neredsenvy> drama: I can try and recreate another Win 10 USB what app are you thinking about
[02:12] <drama> neredsenvy, is there a boot from usb option in you bios
[02:13] <neredsenvy> s
[02:13] <neredsenvy> yes
[02:13] <samthewildone> dax, so I don't replace the actual "PS1" I just create a new line of code for it ?
[02:13] <neredsenvy> there's also a separate boot menu
[02:14] <neredsenvy> so I don't have to go into a bios to pick the drive I want to boot from
[02:21] <Bashing-om> !details | ktinux
[02:24] <uRock> What isthe first user level config file ubuntu looks at when logging in?
[02:34] <Bashing-om> uRock: Loads configuration dirs from /usr/share/lightdm/lightdm.conf.d . Might see what is in the log file /var/log/lightdm/lightdm.log .
[02:34] <uRock> I've renamed every conf folderand file in the home folder and still can't get to the desktop. This is mind blowing.
[02:35] <uRock> will do Bashing-om
[02:36] <Bashing-om> uRock: Delete ~/.dmrc ?? sometimes that works .
[02:38] <Blah4> is anyone here using Xeoma?
[02:39] <uRock> Bashing-om, that didn't do it. Going to check that log file
[02:40] <uRock> Bashing-om, log file is empty
[02:41] <uRock> I have a gksu.lock could that be something?
[02:41] <ProficientWombat> Anyone here use awesome WM?
[02:42] <Bashing-om> uRock:  gksu.lock. no would not think so .
[02:43] <chrstphrchvz> Hi, I'm trying to determine what is setting net.ipv4.tcp_syncookies to 0 after boot, even though I set it to 1 in /etc/sysctl.conf. Using 14.04.4 desktop
[02:47] <johngilbrough> Has anyone worked out how to scrape a gnome-terminal?
[02:50] <uRock> I keep checking.xsession-errors and finding a line refering to  init: dbus pre-start process(###) terminated with status 2
[02:50] <uRock> this isn't in the xsession-errors for the accounts not having the problem
[02:52] <Bashing-om> uRock: Any hints when ' gsettings set org.gnome.desktop.background show-desktop-icons true ' runs and fails ?
[02:52] <chrstphrchvz> johngilbrough: not sure what you mean by "scrape". that might be easier with somehow directing the tty ahead of time, e.g. use screen to log to a file, or are you trying to scrape the buffer of what's already displayed in gnome-terminal?
[02:54] <chrstphrchvz> uRock: have you already tried http://askubuntu.com/questions/43246/how-to-configure-gnome-3-to-show-icons-on-desktop ?
[02:55] <uRock> Bashing-om, "cannot autolaunch D-Bus without X11 display
[02:55] <uRock> likely because I am in tty
[02:56] <Takagami> uRock, what brought about this problem? Out of the blue?
[02:56] <Bashing-om> uRock: Yeah .. That copomand would meed X active . OK this file exist ' /var/log/gpu-manager.log ' ?
[02:56] <uRock> Takagami, ran updates last night, started system this morning and can't get back to the my user's desktop
[02:57] <chrstphrchvz> uRock: I ran into a similar issue where I couldn't use `gsettings set...` without using e.g. `dbus-launch gsettings set...` But I think dbus-launch requires X running in the first place, not sure
[02:57] <uRock> chrstphrchvz, not quite the same issue
[02:57] <uRock> I was looking at the link
[02:58] <Takagami> And this is only affecting one particular user?
[02:58] <uRock> Bashing-om, will check for that log
[02:58] <uRock> Takagami, yes
[02:58] <johngilbrough> chrstphrchvz, the later one - where I execute a command, and everything that on the gnome-terminal screen is captured.
[02:59] <chrstphrchvz> johngilbrough, so both stdout and stderr?
[02:59] <Takagami> @uRock, Unity/Gnome? NVIDIA/AMD/INTEL? What does load if anything after logging in? <--- sorry, came in late to this issue...
[03:00] <johngilbrough> chrstphrchvz, sure, but I dont know if gnome-terminal differentiates between the two
[03:00] <uRock> Bashing-om, the only error lines I see in there are "failed to open dev/dri
[03:01] <uRock> Takagami, as soon as I hit enter to log in I get the standard purple backgroun and a cursor
[03:01] <uRock> Takagami, AMD, standard ubuntu 14.04 unity
[03:01] <uRock> Takagami, correction nvidia
[03:02] <chrstphrchvz> johngilbrough, gnome-terminal doesn't but your shell does (I think). http://stackoverflow.com/a/876242/4896937 should work if what you want is for a single command
[03:03] <johngilbrough> chrstphrchvz, let me check that out - Thank You.
[03:03] <syeekick> i edited fstab rebooted the machine and lost internet connection ubuntu 16.04. Im trying to go through the arch wiki step by step to configure the network. I can't ping google and im struggling to get it back up. Is there some wizzardry commands you know of?
[03:04] <uRock> The only hidden files I haven't renamed are .purple .ssh .remmina .pki .gstramer .gvfs
[03:04] <uRock> all of the other conffiles have been renamed in attempt to find the bad conf
[03:04] <hastiko> anyone know what these little symbols are in file names that look like a long haired dude: https://imgur.com/dize3ae
[03:04] <Takagami> @uRock, can you ctrl+alt+t to open a terminal from the blank desktop after logging in?
[03:04] <uRock> no
[03:04] <johngilbrough> chrstphrchvz, what they're talking there is re-direction of output, not scraping.
[03:04] <hastiko> they were files on a backup drive created on OSX in fat32
[03:05] <uRock> Takagami, the only thing that works are the ctrl alt commands to get to tty
[03:05] <syeekick> i cant ping anything on my local network either
[03:05] <chrstphrchvz> syeekick, if you're using desktop then networkmanager is where I would check first. totally unsure how editing fstab causes that specific issue
[03:06] <syeekick> its headless, thats what i mean fstab has nothing to do with networking
[03:06] <johngilbrough> chrstphrchvz, An example: some program, mine or otherwise creates an error.  I need to be able capture whatever is on the terminal, no matter where it came from.
[03:06] <syeekick> i re configured fstab back to its defaults
[03:07] <uRock> I just noticed .dbus hadn't been renamed, did that and restarting
[03:07] <uRock> didn't help
[03:07] <uRock> 8(
[03:08] <uRock> this is getting the best of me
[03:09] <B0g4r7_> What problem are you trying to solve by renaming a lot of files?
[03:09] <Bashing-om> syeekick: Host and the card is good ? ' ping -c3 127.0.0.1 ' returns positive ?
[03:09] <chrstphrchvz> johngilbrough, so even something not run from terminal? and by "whatever is on the terminal", do you mean stdout, stderr, stdin, and/or command arguments?
[03:09] <syeekick> ifconfig only shows my loopback adapdter
[03:09] <B0g4r7_> ifconfig -a
[03:09] <syeekick> positive on that bashing
[03:10] <syeekick> ifconfig -a shows eno1
[03:10] <johngilbrough> chrstphrchvz, simply capture whatever is displayed on the gnome-terminal - that's all.
[03:10] <syeekick> which is a relif
[03:10] <Guest51562> how can i check if vfio is built into my kernel? (16.04)
[03:10] <syeekick> im cheecking the ip4 address to see if my router is not blocking it
[03:10] <syeekick> i can't trace route to my windows box because ei ahven't got the util installed
[03:10] <NoCode> Is there a way to allow ufw to use port 21 locally instead of the WAN? I've tried, "sudo ufw allow 21 from 192.168..x.xxx" which doesn't allow the rule.
[03:12] <Bashing-om> syeekick: Next ip is the card identifued and a driver loaded ' sudo lshw -C network ' / in the configuration line a driver is listed ?
[03:12] <syeekick> ubuntu isn't showing up on the router either so i
[03:12] <Bashing-om> ip/up*
[03:12] <Steven_M> Hi all
[03:12] <uRock> NoCode, I'd add that rule in GUFW
[03:12] <syeekick> network disabled
[03:12] <Steven_M> I unlocked the root user, but the password dialogue boxes in gnome that appear when you need to escalate privileges, still accept my sudo user's password. Any idea on how to fix this?
[03:13] <pcghost> hello guys
[03:14] <Steven_M> pcghost: hi :)
[03:14] <pcghost> hi steven :)
[03:14] <chrstphrchvz> johngilbrough, based on http://askubuntu.com/q/519555 and similar questions/feature requests, gnome-terminal doesn't support that. The workarounds seem to be using some other command(s) to log either the output streams or entire shell session ahead of time.
[03:15] <syeekick> so i've tied enabling with ifconfig eno1 up
[03:15] <Bashing-om> syeekick: A headless server such that network-manager is not a factor, right ?
[03:15] <syeekick> ayee
[03:15] <berglh> got a quick question on ubuntu zfs for 16.04
[03:15] <syeekick> if not we can go talk in #ubuntu-server so i can stop spamming in this popular channel
[03:16] <pcghost> ubuntu 16.04  have issue wifi?
[03:16] <berglh> upgraded from 15.10 and have a zfs and an spl module that have Diff between built and installed module on them
[03:16] <berglh> is there a zfs package i need to remove to prevent these modules getting built now
[03:16] <berglh> like zfs-dkms
[03:17] <Bashing-om> syeekick: Then we need now to look at the config file /etc/network/interfaces . Yhat it has an entry for eno1 .
[03:17] <berglh> pcghost: s/ubuntu 16.04/all linux distros ever/
[03:17] <precise> Hey guys, just looking to get some second, tertiary opinions. I have a laptop (Dell Precision M4500; 16GB, 1TB HDD, 120GB SSD, quad i7) I want to replace the CD/DVD with a third HDD/SSD. Which one would you choose?
[03:18] <Bashing-om> syeekick: Your issue is valid for this channel , we can all learn from your problem . Not to say that I have a solution .
[03:18] <precise> I know this isn't exactly Ubuntu related, but I am running 16.04 so I guess that counts
[03:18] <syeekick> :)
[03:18] <syeekick> i cant install pastebin utils to give you exactly what is written but it all looks in check here
[03:19] <Bashing-om> precise: Hand down a SSD .
[03:19] <syeekick> considering this has been edited since a couple of reboots, i told it to sit on 192.168.0.9 and thats about it
[03:19] <chrstphrchvz> Guest51562, do you mean the vfio-pci module? maybe see if modprobe -l vfio-pci lists anything
[03:19] <precise> I'm looking for storage, I already have 120GB SSD for root, should I get more?
[03:20] <precise> Bashing-om^
[03:20] <Guest51562> i can load it just fine, but how can i make sure it's loaded every time?
[03:20] <Guest51562> i read something about rebuild the kernel
[03:20] <Bashing-om> syeekick: Mine: http://paste.ubuntu.com/16792145/ . is yours similar ?
[03:21] <syeekick> precise, thats up to you go as large as you can afford without being over kill, 250gig is nice 128 can be a little short
[03:21] <B0g4r7_> precise, if you don't care about weight and power consumption and whatnot, why not get a second identical hard drive and do raid-1?
[03:21] <precise> what are the pros and cons of raid-1?
[03:21] <pcghost> guys
[03:21] <chrstphrchvz> Guest51562, add it to /etc/modules if you want to load it at boot
[03:21] <B0g4r7_> The big pro is that one drive can fail and you don't lose your data.
[03:21] <syeekick> no but i can make it resemble that
[03:22] <B0g4r7_> I guess the cons would be the extra cost, weight, power consumption, heat, etc.
[03:22] <precise> B0g4r7_ What about performance?
[03:22] <B0g4r7_> Performance is normally the same as with a single drive.
[03:22] <syeekick> weight or powerconsumption are not an issue neither is heat
[03:22] <syeekick> ssds are awesome :P
[03:23] <chrstphrchvz> pcghost, what issue do you mean? I think it may depend on what wifi hardware/driver you have
[03:23] <B0g4r7_> I use an ssd to accelerate/cache a raid of spinning drives on my desktop.
[03:24] <precise> I don't think I really need a cache though, I run 16GB of RAM, or am I mistaken?
[03:24] <hastiko> anyone know what this symbol means in file names? https://imgur.com/dize3ae
[03:24] <precise> Does cache == pagefile/swap
[03:24] <precise> ?
[03:25] <Guest51562> is there any way to make sure those modules load first?
[03:25] <RomanLier-> hello
[03:26] <Bashing-om> uRock: Want to see what results when lightdm, unity and the greeter is re-configured ?
[03:27] <RomanLier-> i installed korean keyboard but when i switch input language in order to write korean it doesn't seem to work, still latin alphabet...
[03:27] <Bashing-om> syeekick: If you are static, yours will be different . ( if you do not use nicks to address, I will miss your reply )
[03:27] <johngilbrough> chrstphrchvz, OK.  Thank you sir.  g'night.
[03:27] <syeekick>  ok you fixed it Bashing-om i just set it to auto on everything
[03:27] <syeekick> i'll let the router handle dhcp reserevation
[03:27] <uRock> Bashing-om, how do I do that?
[03:27] <Bashing-om> syeekick: Routers are smart devices ;)
[03:27] <Guest51562> precise: that symbol is supposed to be a period ( . )
[03:28] <precise> ?
[03:28] <Bashing-om> uRock: 14.04 right, such that this is upstart we are working with ?
[03:28] <uRock> yes
[03:28] <Guest51562> it appears your locale is off.
[03:28] <Guest51562> where in the world are you?
[03:29] <RomanLier-> is there a way to get help from someone in this channel?
[03:29] <Guest51562> RomanLier, you should just ask your question.
[03:29] <hastiko> Guest51562: Are you talking to me about the symbol?
[03:29] <berglh> Guest51562: they did
[03:29] <hastiko> in tha file name?
[03:29] <RomanLier-> i did...
[03:29] <berglh> RomanLier-: sorry, i don't knowk
[03:30] <RomanLier-> ok
[03:30] <Guest51562> Sorry, i've been buried in a terminal
[03:30] <Bashing-om> uRock: ' sudo service lightdmdm stop ; sudo dpkg-reconfigure lightdm ; sudo dpkg-reconfigure unity-greeter ; sudo service lightdm start ' // maybe ??
[03:30] <uRock> Bashing-om, I will run it. nothing to lose
[03:31] <hastiko> Guest51562: Are you saying that symbol should be a period?
[03:31] <Bashing-om> uRock: Well, after all thps time and effort, be nice to know the why !
[03:31] <Bashing-om> this*
[03:32] <Guest51562> seems like it should be, right in front of that "ZIP" file extension.
[03:32] <hastiko> But have you seen that symbol? I don;t know what it is or why its happening. They don;t appear that way when plugged into OSX
[03:32] <uRock> that was my thinking, otherwise i would've reinstalled by now. Knowing the cause could prevent future headaches for others
[03:32] <precise> Does 16.04 support Hot Swapping? I know this is a crap shoot, but the replacement for my DVD bay for the third HDD says it supports hot swapping...
[03:33] <Guest51562> Precise: is it a sata device?
[03:33] <precise> Yeah
[03:33] <Guest51562> yes, it should be
[03:33] <precise> It just goes in place of the stock DVD/CD drive
[03:33] <hastiko> Bashing-om: Do you know why files on an external drive would show up with this odd symbol in file name? https://imgur.com/dize3ae
[03:33] <Bashing-om> precise: Affirned ., linux does support sata hot swapping .. just make sure it is not the booting drive that you unplug !
[03:34] <chrstphrchvz> uRock: Wait, there's a typo in Bashing-om's command, I think he meant ' sudo service lightdm stop ; sudo dpkg-reconfigure lightdm ; sudo dpkg-reconfigure unity-greeter ; sudo service lightdm start '
[03:34] <precise> Does the actual drive  need to support hot swapping? Or do all SATA drives support it?
[03:35] <syeekick> thanks Bashing-om
[03:35] <Guest51562> All I think
[03:35] <Bashing-om> chrstphrchvz: Ouch .. yes ! uRock ^^ .
[03:36] <draxdeveloper_> hello, how i enable speel checking in x-chat?
[03:36] <Bashing-om> syeekick: Hey glad ya got it up and running ... if not static I do prefer to have the router handle routing .
[03:36] <syeekick> yeah i think i'll use the router to do that from now on
[03:37] <uRock> chrstphrchvz, Bashing-om, i hadn't noticed that, but i had typed it correctly
[03:37] <syeekick> so it had nothing to do with fstab lol just shitty configuration my end
[03:37] <draxdeveloper_> my speel check option is activate but it's just not working
[03:37] <uRock> I am going to have to rerun it though, it skipped from the first to the last command
[03:39] <hastiko> Anyone? https://imgur.com/dize3ae what is this symbol?
[03:39] <precise> hastiko, can you copy/paste it?
[03:39] <precise> Is it text?
[03:39] <hastiko> no I took a screenshot of it...the drive isn't plugged in now
[03:40] <hastiko> can you not see imgur?
[03:40] <hastiko> I can put the photo somewhere else if you want
[03:40] <uRock> Bashing-om, was the output supposed to look like this? lightdm stop/waiting
[03:40] <uRock> lightdm start/running, process 2734
[03:40] <precise> I can see the image just fine, I am just trying to figure out if it is a key-mapping issue or something else
[03:40] <precise> hastiko
[03:41] <precise> Shared storage between Windows and Linux? Are the any limitations of the NTFS file system?
[03:41] <hastiko> precise: it's files on an external drive that appear normal when plugged into osx..I moved some files to here (not those with the odd symbol) and noticed this
[03:41] <precise> hastiko: Current OS is ubuntu?
[03:41] <hastiko> I can move those files to this xubuntu and cut and paste if you need....yes it's 16.04
[03:41] <hastiko> xubuntu
[03:41] <Bashing-om> uRock: Looks promising .. what is on TTY7 now > ( alt+F7) ?
[03:43] <Steven_M> I unlocked the root user, but the password dialogue boxes in gnome that appear when you need to escalate privileges, still accept my sudo user's password. Any idea on how to fix this?
[03:43] <uRock> Bashing-om, reran it and restarting
[03:44] <[Saint]> Steven_M: fix what - that's intended behavior.
[03:44] <[Saint]> unlocking the root user won't magically prevent another user with sudo access from elevating through sudo.
[03:45] <hastiko> precise: here is one: Bootcamp Drivers 62014
[03:45] <uRock> Bashing-om, still nothing
[03:46] <chrstphrchvz> Steven_M, indeed it is intended if anything is using gksudo to show those boxes, so I guess one workaround is to remove sudo privilege for the user
[03:47] <Bashing-om> uRock: Well ,, as other accounts have no problems, we know the issue is in your user account config .. some where ... unity is deep !
[03:48] <uRock> That it is. I SSHed into it and ran the commands one by one, then instead of starting lightdm, I restarted the system
[03:49] <uRock> still nothing, time to copy files to external and install 1604
[03:49] <Steven_M> chrstphrchvz: ok thanks, I'll try that.
[03:50] <draxdeveloper_> hello, there is not the "normal" x chat for ubuntu?
[03:50] <chrstphrchvz> RomanLier-, there should be a way to change the keyboard layout in system settings, I can look for specific instructions if needed
[03:51] <RomanLier-> yes please, i need to be able to write using korean alphabet
[03:52] <Kenrin> You should just install the keyboard,  reboot,  then it'll show up in your bar to switch inputs
[03:52] <NoCode> still getting connection timed out when trying to connect with sftp.
[03:53] <Bashing-om> uRock: K, .. this is a config thing .. while quicker to install than troubleshoot .. we can poke at it a bit more if ya want .
[03:53] <uRock> I'm game, any ideas Bashing-om
[03:53] <draxdeveloper_> i really can't find xchat except of xchat-gnome and the speel checker of xchat-gnome is not working. Also i preffer the normal x-chat
[03:55] <pcghost> why my ubuntu lags?
[03:55] <Ben64> draxdeveloper_: try hexchat
[03:55] <chrstphrchvz> draxdeveloper_, the original xchat is not (as?) actively developed, but should still be packaged for ubuntu (see "exact hits": http://packages.ubuntu.com/search?keywords=xchat )
[03:55] <draxdeveloper_> ok, i will get it
[03:55] <Bashing-om> Mind ya .. a long time since I have seen unity .. but we can ' dconf reset -f /org/compiz/ ; unity --reset-icons ; setsid unity ' . See if that gives us any hints on what is not taking place .
[03:56] <draxdeveloper_> my only problem is that speel checking is not working, oir ate least is not marking my erros
[03:56] <draxdeveloper_> errors
[03:56] <pcghost> im sorry
[03:56] <hastiko> Kenrin: can you help me sort a couple things? First this odd symbol appeared in some file names when I attached an external drive...they display normally on OSX but not in xubuntu 16.04 "Bootcamp Drivers 62014" it looks like this when rendered https://imgur.com/dize3ae
[03:57] <uRock> Bashing-om, will try
[03:57] <Kenrin> No idea about that,  my OS can't even render that strange symbol
[03:58] <RomanLier-> Kenrin: Already did that
[03:58] <hastiko> Kenrin: Second thing is IRC no longer beeps with my name since I installed 16.04...I checked audio settings on IRC and System
[03:58] <chrstphrchvz> pcghost, too many possible causes to name. is your computer older or recent? how much RAM does it have?
[03:58] <RomanLier-> but when I try to write it's just latin script
[03:59] <RomanLier-> instead of the one i selected...
[03:59] <chrstphrchvz> pcghost, and what exactly is lagging? long boot? using apps? maybe there is no accelerated graphics when there should be?
[03:59] <Kenrin> RomanLier:  You installed ibus-hangul ?
[03:59] <RomanLier-> i can't
[04:00] <uRock> Bashing-om, failed from SSH, but I expected that
[04:00] <RomanLier-> i mean, i tried but i could not
[04:01] <Bashing-om> uRock: K .. well .. I am out of ideas .. we have run through all I know of to reset unity .
[04:01] <Kenrin> It gives an error or what ?
[04:01] <Kenrin> If you don't have that package,  your input isn't going to work
[04:01] <Bashing-om> uRock: re-install the desktop ?
[04:01] <uRock> Bashing-om, I am typing them in locally to see how they run
[04:01] <RomanLier-> Kenrin: screenshot of error
[04:01] <RomanLier-> http://storage3.static.itmages.com/i/16/0529/h_1464494508_2523696_f4058d9219.png
[04:02] <uRock> yes, --reinstall ubunt-desktop
[04:04] <uRock> Bashing-om, darn, it still failed. We tried though!
[04:04] <uRock> for that I am thankful
[04:04] <chrstphrchvz> hastiko, is the problem only in thunar (xfce file browser) or do you see it from anywhere, e.g. in terminal?
[04:05] <hastiko> chrstphrchv: let me check...should I just paste the file name into Terminal?
[04:05] <Kenrin> Try a "sudo dpkg --configure -a & sudo apt-get install -f"
[04:06] <TGVoid> Can anyone help me in backing up a corrupt HDD? Someone helped me earlier by telling me to do ddrescue -d. Is there anything else I need to do when the process finishes?
[04:06] <RomanLier-> Kenrin: that's for me?
[04:06] <Kenrin> RomanLier: yes
[04:06] <hastiko> chrstphrchvz: it shows this weird yeti looking symbol in terminal too...if I paste it here it shows me a box with numbers not the yeti Bootcamp Drivers 62014
[04:07] <Ben64> TGVoid: look up ddrescue guides, theres a lot you can do with it
[04:07] <RomanLier-> ok, but -a ibus-hangul? or just a you wrote it??
[04:07] <Bashing-om> uRock: ' sudo apt-get purge ubuntu-desktop ; sudo apt-get install ubuntu-desktop ' ??
[04:07] <chrstphrchvz> hastiko, try listing the directory: `ls /media/{username}/{volume name}/`
[04:07] <Kenrin> Just as I wrote it,  you need to resolve the dependencies first before you reinstall
[04:08] <hastiko> chrstphrchvz yeah in ls it shows yeti head to
[04:08] <hastiko> in terminal
[04:09] <hastiko> when I paste here I dont see tht symbol but instead a box that has I think "fo" on top  and "22" on bottom
[04:09] <RomanLier-> Kenrin: still same error
[04:10] <hastiko> chrstphrchvz: when I paste it in mousepad or libreoffice or anyother editor it shows as the yeto head symbol thing
[04:10] <chrstphrchvz> hastiko, i wonder if its something in fonts/window manager or the system. can you do the ls command from a tty?
[04:10] <hastiko> i don;t know what tty is sorry...super noob here
[04:10] <uRock> Bashing-om, didn't work At this point I am going to chown that directory and use the other account
[04:11] <hastiko> if I paste it in the browser url bar it shows as the box with FO and 22 in it
[04:11] <hastiko> is that some character map? google doesnt say anything
[04:11] <chrstphrchvz> hastiko, see http://askubuntu.com/a/657962 . remember to press ctrl alt f7 to get back to xfce/desktop
[04:12] <uRock> Bashing-om, thanks for helping! I've gotta jump off of here before the other half starts throwing stuff at me.
[04:12] <Bashing-om> uRock: Well, so much for my think'n .. Sometimes try'n just is not enough, huh ?
[04:12] <uRock> still better than not trying
[04:12] <Kenrin> RomanLier: That is strange,  did you try installing the packages manually?
[04:12] <uRock> 8)
[04:12] <Bashing-om> uRock: Keep peace !
[04:13] <RomanLier-> Kenrin: you mean sudo apt-get install ibus-hangul?
[04:13] <TGVoid> Ben64: I've found one, but it was different from what a person in this chat told me. Will ddrescue -n copy everything to my external drive? Also, how do I get the files themselves instead of the rescue file?
[04:13] <Kenrin> I meant installing the dependencies:  libibus, libglic, libc6, python-gi, etc.
[04:14] <Ben64> TGVoid: you're going to need a lot more than just 'ddrescue -n'
[04:14] <precise> Is there a way to delete a partition on shutdown. EX: I have sda1 and sda2, OS and everything essential on sda, but temporary stuff, not swap, but temp docs etc on sda1. Is there a way to wipe sda2 at shutdown so to preserve the OS but not the work?
[04:14] <RomanLier-> from the ubuntu software centre or from terminal?
[04:14] <hastiko> chrstphrchvz: i dont know what I am supposed to do once I am in the shell after I log in
[04:14] <hastiko> is the shell tty?
[04:14] <Kenrin> whichever, might be easier from the software center if they have strange version numbers on the end
[04:14] <RomanLier-> ok
[04:15] <TGVoid> Ben64: What do I need to do on top of that? Also, ddrescue won't save blank space, right?
[04:15] <chrstphrchvz> hastiko, `ls /media/{username}/{volume name}/`
[04:15] <Ben64> TGVoid: thats why you need to read up about it, ddrescue copies everything
[04:16] <hastiko> ok I am looking for a list of files and seeing if the symbol shows there too?
[04:17] <citrix> i have a problem in php
[04:17] <TGVoid> Ben64: Do you know of a good guide?
[04:17] <citrix> my english is not good
[04:17] <Ben64> TGVoid: not offhand
[04:17] <RomanLier-> kenrin: the're all installed
[04:18] <RomanLier-> i mean, i'm not lacking any of them
[04:18] <drama> citrix, you have xenial 16.04 ?
[04:18] <citrix> i m not able to understand
[04:18] <TGVoid> Wait, if I use Foremost, will it delete the ddrescue file after extracting everything?
[04:19] <chrstphrchvz> hastiko, and the F022 actually tells me that the glyph is a Tibetan non-Unicode character http://www.thlib.org/reference/transliteration/#!essay=/thl/ewts/7/
[04:19] <TGVoid> Ben64:
[04:19] <Ben64> TGVoid: no idea what foremost is
[04:19] <precise> So, I know there is a way to wipe /swap and RAM contents with the secure-delete package, is there a way to apply the same concepts to another partition?
[04:19] <citrix> my problem is select Lastname, Email from SignUp where Firstname='Anu' and Password = 'always4yoy'
[04:19] <Ben64> precise: make a script run on shutdown and/or reboot to do it
[04:20] <citrix> can you solve this problem anyone
[04:20] <Kenrin> RomanLier: I'd switch your mirror to the main ubuntu repo in the software center
[04:20] <TGVoid> Ben64: Is it possible to compress the drive image so all of the free space is taken out?
[04:20] <RomanLier-> what does that mean?
[04:20] <precise> Ben64, I figured it would be something like that. So would you suggest just to dd /dev/nul the partition?
[04:20] <chrstphrchvz> hastiko, the tty will first ask you to log in, then the shell is the usual prompt you see in terminal. {username}@{hostname}:~$
[04:21] <hastiko> chrstphrchvz: in shell it shows as Bootcamp Drivers 6"2014 where the " is this symbol other places
[04:21] <Ben64> precise: format it
[04:21] <precise> What about on an SSD
[04:21] <Ben64> TGVoid: there's no such thing as free space
[04:21] <TheHackOps> Hey guys I have a video card with 3GB of GDDR5 vram, for some reason ubuntu is only reporting the VRAM amount as 256mb
[04:22] <precise> My plan is to pull files from an HDD when needed, then erase when I'm done.
[04:22] <TheHackOps> If its using all my VRAM thats cool but if not, how can I get it to use all of it
[04:22] <TGVoid> Ben64: There isn't?
[04:22] <precise> I know it sounds convoluted, but I have my reasons :P
[04:22] <RomanLier-> Kenrin: what does that mean?
[04:22] <Kenrin> RomanLier: It means whatever sources.list repo you are using probably has bad packages and needs to be changed
[04:22] <Ben64> TGVoid: when you delete a file, it deletes the record of the file, but the file stays on the drive until overwritten.
[04:22] <RomanLier-> so?
[04:23] <RomanLier-> how can i fix that?
[04:23] <TGVoid> Ben64: So those files will remain on my recovery file?
[04:23] <TGVoid> Ben64: Rescue*
[04:23] <Ben64> it will try to make a full image of the drive
[04:23] <Kenrin> Goto system settings: software and updates
[04:23] <NicoleWright> what is the ubuntu off topic channel?
[04:24] <Kenrin> Change your download from:
[04:24] <Kenrin> Try the Main Server
[04:24] <NicoleWright> Kenrin what is the ubuntu off topic channel on here?
[04:24] <Kenrin> !ot
[04:25] <RomanLier-> ok, now main server is seleted
[04:25] <precise> Ben64: In my scenario: would the drive being an SSD change anything when wiping the partition?
[04:25] <Kenrin> Ok so do a sudo apt-get update and then try to reinstall ibus-hangul
[04:25] <TGVoid> Ben64: That means viruses and unwanted software will remain? Is there anyway to back up just the un-overwritable files?
[04:25] <TGVoid> Ben64: I can't mount the drive at all
[04:25] <Ben64> precise: apart from it not making sense and making the ssd wear faster, i guess not
[04:26] <precise> Ben64: both good points, thanks for your time!
[04:26] <Kenrin> er,  do apt-get upgrade too
[04:26] <RomanLier-> ok
[04:26] <Ben64> TGVoid: right, so if the drive is damaged, how can you tell what is supposed to be deleted and what isn't
[04:26] <RomanLier-> upgrade is for OS right?
[04:26] <sruli> lubuntu 16.04 when trying to start NetworkManager i get an error "NetworkManager: failed at step namespace spawning /usr/sbin/NetworkManager: invalid argument"  I found the bug in a debian mailing list and the solution was to comment out a few lines in NetworkManager.service the line i commented outoto get it to work is ProtectSystem=true, my question is is this safe?
[04:26] <Kenrin> It just upgrades all of your packages if there is a newer version
[04:27] <chrstphrchvz> hastiko, interesting because " is hexadecimal 22 in ascii/unicode. might be a bug in xfce somewhere where the double quotes aren't being interpreted correctly. But in this irc chat, were you able to type double quotes and see it correctly?
[04:27] <Ben64> RomanLier-: should do apt-get dist-upgrade
[04:27] <Kenrin> That too,  thanks ben
[04:27] <TGVoid> Ben64: The drive itself isn't damaged to my knowledge. A partition just corrupted (or maybe the entire drive)
[04:27] <RomanLier-> and dist-upgrade? what's that?
[04:27] <Ben64> TGVoid: point still stands
[04:28] <RomanLier-> so i know what i'm typing
[04:28] <hastiko> chrstphrchvz: no it shows that FO22 box in here Bootcamp Drivers 62014
[04:28] <TGVoid> Ben64: So I can't recover the raw files directly?
[04:28] <hastiko> shows this same way in firefox URL bar
[04:28] <Ben64> RomanLier-: does the same as upgrade + can install new packages for things that need it
[04:28] <RomanLier-> ok
[04:28] <TGVoid> Ben64: Instead of a single image
[04:28] <RomanLier-> i'll try that three
[04:28] <Kenrin> Yeah it is a better command unless you really really don't want some packages removed
[04:28] <hastiko> chrstphrchvz: i remember when installing it said something about language support missing but it closed itself and kept on
[04:28] <Ben64> TGVoid: you make an image so you don't maybe break something in the process
[04:28] <hastiko> can I somehow update the language support?
[04:29] <TGVoid> Ben64: The thing is that space is an issue
[04:30] <chrstphrchvz> hastiko, also double quotes don't normally belong in filenames in Windows-compatible filesystems (e.g. fat32)
[04:31] <hastiko> chrstphrchvz: i found a setting that said language support needed to update and install stuff...running it now....re the file name they didn't have quotes in them originally either
[04:33] <chrstphrchvz> hastiko, you're probably in the right place. was about to suggest https://help.ubuntu.com/16.04/ubuntu-help/prefs-language-install.html but steps would have varied for xubuntu anyways
[04:34] <TGVoid> Ben64: Would the image gradually disappear as more raw files are recovered?
[04:35] <RomanLier-> oh, really?
[04:35] <RomanLier-> more than half an hour for the upgrade :/
[04:35] <Kenrin> Hah,  whatever mirror you were using was probably out of date if its that bad
[04:36] <RomanLier-> kenrin Argentina server
[04:36] <hastiko> chrstphrchvz: its a super slow dl so will get back to you with the results...thanks for helping
[04:37] <RomanLier-> oh, now it says 1 hour
[04:37] <hastiko> might you know why the IRC name mention beep won't work after I installed 16.04? system settings and irc settings are normal
[04:37] <chrstphrchvz> hastiko, unless your connection is slow you might want to make sure you've got a fast mirror
[04:38] <hastiko> I have 1mbps dl...its me :)
[04:38] <RomanLier-> me: 150 kB/s
[04:38] <chrstphrchvz> hastiko, I believe some mirrors are still slower than that
[04:38] <Kenrin> I feel spoiled with a 1 gig connection
[04:39] <hastiko> RomanLier: I shouldn't complain then sorry
[04:39] <RomanLier-> oh now it's 110
[04:39] <RomanLier-> don't worry i got used to it
[04:39] <TGVoid> Ben64: And is it risky to recover files directly from the drive opposed to imaging it first/
[04:39] <hastiko> I had 150 mbps but moved to country...hate it
[04:40] <RomanLier-> oh here there is no internet at all in the country
[04:40] <chrstphrchvz> the default ubuntu mirror was always up to date, but always slower than whatever local hosting company's mirror.
[04:41] <Kenrin> Well, I hope that works.  I'll be back in an hour I have to drive home
[04:41] <Ben64> TGVoid: yes! like i said thats why you make an image, find some free space and just do it
[04:41] <RomanLier-> ok, kenrin, thank you
[04:41] <YankDownUnder> TGVoid, If you "image" a drive, you can use different tools to recover from the "image" - therefore reducing the possible/probable risk to damaging the "original" - and you can also make a copy of the "image" so that you can make use of different recovery tools; it's a "forensics" basic to do exactly that.
[04:42] <chrstphrchvz> hastiko, are you using freenode webchat? go to menu in upper left corner, options, make sure "Beep on activity:" is checked
[04:43] <TGVoid> Ben64: YankDownUnder My image so far is 875 GB and it's a 1 TB drive
[04:43] <chrstphrchvz> hastiko, or are you using a desktop irc client?
[04:45] <YankDownUnder> TGVoid, The if you're in a quandry as far as "space" is concerned, you may want to consider what is a priority. Either which, you can utilise "live" forensic distros - like "Caine" - recover as much as you require - again, though, in recovering stuff from a damaged file system, you do run the risk of hosing the file system and rendering it "toast"...you know what I mean?
[04:48] <TGVoid> YankDownUnder: Would it be a good idea to make an image, reformat the corrupted drive, then getting the files out of the image and putting it on the formatted drive?
[04:51] <YankDownUnder> TGVoid, That is a decision YOU would have to make; it would depend on your priorities, hmm? If you can "afford" to make the image, and also make a copy of the image (redundancy is a good thing) - and you're happy with knowing that you've created a great image, well, I don't really see a reason why - AFTER you've created an image - of not reformatting (several times just to be sure) the drive - for immediate usage...
[04:59] <TGVoid> YankDownUnder: Is it possible to mount the image and copy the files that I need to my external drive?
[05:00] <[Saint]> Absolutely.
[05:00] <[Saint]> There would be no reason in suggesting it or wanting to do so if you could not.
[05:01] <TGVoid> [Saint]: Me?
[05:01] <[Saint]> Yes. You.
[05:02] <YankDownUnder> TGVoid, Spot on, bro.
[05:03] <TGVoid> YankDownUnder: Is it risky?
[05:04] <YankDownUnder> TGVoid, Mounting the image? No, bro. It's only an image. You only want to "read" from that image - and especially as in most instances, it's going to be mounted as "read only", you'll be right.
[05:04] <TGVoid> YankDownUnder: How do I know when the image is done?
[05:05] <YankDownUnder> TGVoid, Well, being that I have no clue as to what you're using to create the image, it's hard to say, bro.
[05:05] <TGVoid> YankDownUnder: I'm using GNU ddrescue
[05:06] <TGVoid> YankDownUnder: Here's the command I used: sudo ddrescue -n from to (From being internal, to being external drive)
[05:08] <TGVoid> YankDownUnder: Here's what Terminal says: http://paste.ubuntu.com/16794100
[05:12] <TGVoid> YankDownUnder: Got any idea?
[05:12] <YankDownUnder> TGVoid, Well, matey, you're going to sit and wait, then aren't ya? :) -> let it take as long as it takes...patience...time to have a few coffees?
[05:13] <TGVoid> YankDownUnder: Time to take a nap :P
[05:14] <YankDownUnder> TGVoid, Well, there ya go! Naps are free...all is good. It'll finish when it finishes, and nothing you can do or say will make it move any faster than it already is moving, true? Yep...therefore, naps are good. Coolbeans.
[05:15]  * [Saint] hasn't heard 'coolbeans' since the 1990s.
[05:15] <precise> I say coolbeans all the fuckin time lol
[05:16] <TGVoid> That's what my history teacher says lol
[05:16] <YankDownUnder> I'm just old.
[05:17] <TGVoid> It's 12 AM, so I'll probs be on tomorrow instead. I spent all night yesterday on this PC and I've been super tired today. Thanks for all your help, and have a good night/day/week/month/century haha
[05:18] <precise> See you next eon TGVoid
[05:18]  * YankDownUnder looks at the clock
[05:18] <precise> Yeah, time flies when your fucking with computers
[05:18] <YankDownUnder> Ah...yes...apparently time is different in different geographic locations...
[05:19] <precise> lol
[05:19] <precise> You in Oz?
[05:19] <precise> YankDownUnder?
[05:20] <TGVoid> Before I go, do I need to disable sleep mode in order for the thing to go on without stopping?
[05:20] <YankDownUnder> precise, I hope so. Unless I've been transported somewhere else without knowing it...which COULD be the case.
[05:20] <[Saint]> 'matey' and liberal use of 'bro' would seem to indicate Australasia.
[05:20] <precise> I was just going off of his nick: 'YankDownUnder'
[05:20] <YankDownUnder> Saint_Is_, Spot on.
[05:20] <precise> DownUnder being Australia :P
[05:21] <[Saint]> Could also be a hilarious masturbation euphemism. ;)
[05:21] <[Saint]> errr...I mean, on-topic things.
[05:21] <YankDownUnder> The area that I live in, however, would appear to be NOT Australia - most of the time...
[05:21] <[Saint]> *nods*
[05:22] <HappyHobo> I've come looking for wisdom and guidance.
[05:22] <precise> Ye find none here, only goats
[05:22] <HappyHobo> Wise goats that can guide me perhaps?
[05:22] <YankDownUnder> ...goats, goats, and more goats.
[05:23] <precise> We goats do know a thing or two about Ubuntu
[05:23] <TGVoid> Well, bye for reals! It's been a great and frustrating time!
[05:23] <precise> Baaaaaaahy TGVoid
[05:23] <Guest84845> is this freenode?
[05:23] <precise> no, it is paidnode
[05:23] <Guest84845> sure
[05:24] <precise> JK what's up Guest*
[05:24] <precise> ?
[05:24] <YankDownUnder> "Paidnode" - hehehehehe...yeah...
[05:24] <Guest84845> just installed 16.04 ubuntu
[05:24] <HappyHobo> I installed a buntu derived distribution alongside my former distribution.  I used the same username and when I went to use the other distribution it did not associate this name with the new distribution.
[05:24] <precise> Yall didn't pay to get on here...?
[05:24] <Guest84845> :)
[05:24] <HappyHobo> It is ChaletOS which is based on xubuntu which is based on ubuntu.
[05:25]  * YankDownUnder checks credit card payments
[05:25] <precise> If you have a dual boot, they are two totally different filesystems, etc with different credentials, etc...
[05:25] <YankDownUnder> OMG I paid for this? I want my money back! ;)
[05:25] <chrstphrchvz> I paraphrase others when I say "no foul language on #ubuntu, please" :^)
[05:25] <lotuspsychje> !ot
[05:25] <lotuspsychje> keep it support related guys
[05:26] <precise> Sorry, will do.
[05:26] <HappyHobo> How can I merge the two?
[05:26] <[Saint]> ...wut?
[05:26] <precise> HappyHobo: I don't understand, you want like a shared /home or something?
[05:26] <Guest84845> so theres no xchat under 16.04
[05:26] <lotuspsychje> HappyHobo: we only support official ubuntu flavors
[05:26] <lotuspsychje> !xchat | Guest84845
[05:27] <Guest84845> awwww
[05:27] <HappyHobo> OK fine I'm using xubuntu.  How can I share a home between  two.the
[05:27] <[Saint]> Nice try.
[05:27] <Guest84845> hehe HappyHobo
[05:27] <precise> May I suggest irssi? It is a bit of a learning curve, but it is amazing.
[05:27] <Guest84845> hmmm
[05:27] <Ben64> Guest84845: sorry it doesn't work like that
[05:27] <Guest84845> ive heard of it
[05:27] <Guest84845> i think ill try it soon
[05:27] <Guest84845> for now ill stick to hexchat
[05:28] <Guest84845> damn i liked xchat its traditional to me
[05:28] <chrstphrchvz> lotuspsychje, I stand corrected on the packaging of xchat, thanks
[05:28] <HappyHobo> Is it possible?
[05:28]  * Guest84845 tackles Ben64 
[05:28] <lotuspsychje> HappyHobo: we only support official ubuntu flavors
[05:28] <Ben64> HappyHobo: you're not on ubuntu, so go to the support channel for your distro
[05:28] <Bashing-om> HappyHobo: Sharing a /home as configs file may differ is not a good idea .
[05:29] <Guest84845> purple irc
[05:29] <simla> Hello, I'm wondering if anyone can help me with a question I posted on askubuntu. I haven't had much response there. It's pretty obscure.
[05:29] <Guest84845> not sure what that is
[05:29] <simla> http://askubuntu.com/questions/778458/change-keyboard-layout-shortcut-stopped-working-after-updates-yesterday
[05:29] <Ben64> Guest84845: sounds like pidgin stuff
[05:29] <Guest84845> not familiar with pidgin either
[05:29] <HappyHobo> Bashing-om:  I can see where that could be problematic but I want them to have the same .config
[05:30] <Seveas> Guest84845: haxchat is based on xchat
[05:30] <Ben64> HappyHobo: go to the correct support channel regardless
[05:30] <Guest84845> yes i was going to ask something
[05:30] <Guest84845> are the files similar in hexchat/xchat
[05:30] <Guest84845> like the configuration
[05:30] <HappyHobo> Linux has enough division as it is Ben64 let's not further draw the line.
[05:30] <Ben64> then go to ##linux
[05:30] <Guest84845> if anything i want to just copy the settings
[05:31] <Ben64> this is an ubuntu specific channel
[05:31] <lotuspsychje> !support | HappyHobo
[05:31] <HappyHobo> You're a dick.\
[05:31] <Guest84845> !help
[05:31] <Guest84845> lol HappyHobo
[05:31] <Seveas> simla: what's the output of gsettings get org.gnome.desktop.input-sources xkb-options
[05:31] <Ben64> no, you're the one coming into the wrong channel
[05:31] <lotuspsychje> !language | HappyHobo stop please
[05:31] <Guest84845> brb
[05:31] <HappyHobo> You're the reason why linux will never overcome windows.
[05:31] <Guest84845> lol
[05:31] <Ben64> nope
[05:31] <HappyHobo> what a dick
[05:31] <Ben64> goes into an import only repair shop, WHY WONT YOU FIX MY FORD MUSTANG
[05:32] <Guest84845> lol
[05:32] <lotuspsychje> !ops | HappyHobo
[05:32] <Seveas> Ben64: I drove to mexico and back, that counts as importing! :)
[05:32] <Ben64> :p
[05:33] <HappyHobo> do you support Ubuntu Mate?
[05:33] <Ben64> yep, because it's an official ubuntu flavor
[05:33] <[Saint]> Yes, Bro.
[05:33] <Seveas> Ben64: also, is there really such a thing as an 'import only repair shop'? Never heard of it.
[05:33] <Ben64> yeah there is
[05:33] <HappyHobo> xubuntu is such a shitty, fucking name at least chalet sounds decent
[05:33] <[Saint]> Seveas: Try owning a SAAB - never again...
[05:34] <lotuspsychje> HappyHobo: stop the swearing, you will get banned
[05:34] <HappyHobo> I'm frustrated
[05:34] <Ben64> Seveas: it actually only does japanese imports, so it's not super accurate naming, but whatever
[05:34] <HappyHobo> elitists who do not want to see linux succeed
[05:34] <Seveas> [Saint]: dunno, this seems pretty nice: http://oneinnovation.se/flygvapnet/wp-content/uploads/2013/10/AJ-37-Viggen.jpg
[05:34] <Ben64> HappyHobo: dude. go to ##linux for general linux help
[05:34] <[Saint]> Ben64: there's a lot of euro-only import specialists as well.
[05:34] <lotuspsychje> HappyHobo: you have been advised to seek the proper channel
[05:35] <HappyHobo> Ben64 I have a hemorrhoid will you please suck it?
[05:35] <Ben64> thanks
[05:35] <Seveas> thanks elky
[05:35] <Seveas> *hug*
[05:35] <[Saint]> Am I the only one that ends up feeling kinda bad when that happens?
[05:36] <Ben64> yes
[05:36] <[Saint]> Poor dude's probably just lonely.
[05:36] <elky> lotuspsychje: next time try to explain why things are unsupported at the start perhaps, rather than just stopping them in their tracks
[05:36] <Seveas> [Saint]: don't. There's assholes all over the internet.
[05:36] <lotuspsychje> elky: we explained him several times, scroll up please
[05:37] <elky> lotuspsychje: i scrolled up already, that's why i'm giving you advice.
[05:37] <Seveas> elky: when people immediately go into dickhead mode, the 'why' doesn't really help though
[05:37] <Seveas> this one wasn't salvagable
[05:38] <lotuspsychje> Seveas: +1
[05:38] <elky> Seveas: more often than not, !ot as a response to an question makes situations go bad.
[05:38] <[Saint]> That's one of the reasons for my thinking he really wanted someone to spend attention, any attention, good or bad.
[05:38] <[Saint]> But perhaps he was just abrasive. Dunno.
[05:39] <mumixam> when running isc dhcpd does ipv4 and ipv6 have to be 2 sepratate processes/configs?
[05:39] <[Saint]> Gone now anyway.
[05:39] <[Saint]> elky: I think it doesn;t help that a lot of people don;t seem to get that it is someone actually triggering those responses.
[05:40] <Seveas> mumixam: according to the manpage they must be 2 separate processes indeed
[05:40] <[Saint]> From my point of view a lot of people seem to think this 'ubottu' guy suddenly interjects and gets all stroppy
[05:40] <Seveas>        -4     Run as a DHCP server. This is the default and cannot be combined with -6.
[05:40] <Seveas>        -6     Run as a DHCPv6 server. This cannot be combined with -4.
[05:40] <elky> [Saint]: we try to discourage using the bot if you can type the answer yourself
[05:40] <chrstphrchvz> I don't use IRC often. Is there a way to lookup recent discussion that's not yet logged but still from before I joined, or is it OK to ask what's been discussed again?
[05:40] <[Saint]> I think he was yelling at the mystical 'ubottu' character believing them to be sentient.
[05:40] <Seveas> !logs
[05:40] <elky> chrstphrchvz: irclogs.ubuntu.com
[05:40] <mumixam> ok Seveas thx
[05:41] <Seveas> chrstphrchvz: http://irclogs.ubuntu.com/ is where you can find previous discussions
[05:41] <elky> [Saint]: that's enough thanks
[05:41] <Seveas> [Saint]: the bot will tell you he's not sentient
[05:41] <Seveas> ubottu: are you stroppy?
[05:41] <lotuspsychje> chrstphrchvz: there is also #ubuntu-discuss to discuss ubuntu related topics
[05:42] <[Saint]> Seveas: only if you reply to it directly.
[05:42] <[Saint]> Calling it a dick doesn't work.
[05:42] <chrstphrchvz> Seveas, thanks, but I'm talking about discussion that's "in limbo": before I joined, but not yet in the irclog. Do I wait for the log to update, or is it OK for me to ask again for details I missed?
[05:42] <Seveas> chrstphrchvz: hmm, I thought the logs were pretty immediate.
[05:43] <Seveas> hmm no, they're at least half an hour behind.
[05:44] <Seveas> chrstphrchvz: to actually answer your question: sore, you can ask people to repeat things if you were having a conversation with them and suddenly dropped out.
[05:44] <Seveas> s/sore/sure/
[05:45] <[Saint]> I could pull from /my/ logs?
[05:45] <[Saint]> Would that assist you?
[05:45] <elky> [Saint]: sure, lots of people have personal logs, you might want to discuss it with him in private message though
[05:45] <chrstphrchvz> [Saint], good idea, maybe have someone /msg me recent stuff to fill me in. I would appreciate that.
[05:47] <chrstphrchvz> ([Saint], elky: don't need anything yet, have been on for a few hours though, thanks)
[05:47] <HappyHobo> I came back to apologize to everyone especially ben64.  Have a wonderful night.
[05:47] <elky> chrstphrchvz: to be honest by the time you find someone to help you'll probably have just been better off waiting
[05:51] <chrstphrchvz> I also posted my original question to askubuntu since logging on: http://askubuntu.com/questions/778905/syncookies-disabled-despite-setting-in-sysctl-conf . (Didn't new questions on askubuntu show up on irc? or maybe I'm thinking of a different channel…)
[05:53] <akis> hi all. i am facing the same issue: http://ubuntuforums.org/showthread.php?t=2323320. Any idea or help?
[05:53] <akis> i also read this: https://bugs.launchpad.net/ubuntu/+source/update-manager/+bug/1586625
[05:56] <Loshki> !manual
[05:57] <drama> chrstphrchvz, i found this ymmv http://serverfault.com/questions/400193/enable-tcp-syncookies-even-after-reboot
[05:57] <Cyber_Akuma-Temp> Are there any applications for Ubuntu to read Windows DMP files?
[05:59] <chrstphrchvz> drama, awesome! I guess I never googled "tcp_syncookies after reboot" specifically, will check it out
[06:04] <chrstphrchvz> drama, I would have to try later to see if that answer has any effect. I'm also not sure if it is persistent while the system is up, i.e. if syncookies get disabled again, then I might resort to putting such a solution in cron.
[06:08] <sruli> lubuntu 16.04 when trying to start NetworkManager i get an error "NetworkManager: failed at step namespace spawning /usr/sbin/NetworkManager: invalid argument"  I found the bug in a debian mailing list and the solution was to comment out a few lines in NetworkManager.service the line i commented out to get it to work is ProtectSystem=true, my question is this safe? also even after its started i cant get nm-applet to start
[06:09] <NoCode> should a usb be fat32 or fat16 for an image to go on it and boot?
[06:09] <reisio> NoCode: for an image it won't matter
[06:11] <NoCode> device doesn't even show up now!
[06:11] <NoCode> what the hell man :(
[06:12] <NoCode> I don't deserve this torture
[06:13] <otto> ?
[06:14] <reisio> ?
[06:14] <otto> Qq pega ?
[06:15] <Kenrin> FAT32
[06:15] <NoCode> Oh, just having major issues with my computer. :)
[06:15] <NoCode> Anyway brb in a while
[06:18] <dd_> hi
[06:18] <dd_> I have problem installing docker in ubuntu server
[06:19] <dd_> I followed the guide at https://docs.docker.com/engine/installation/linux/ubuntulinux/ but ubuntu cannot see the docker engine packet?
[06:21] <dd_> http://pastebin.com/wGEeQfBU
[06:31] <daniele12457> any suggestion?
[06:32] <reisio> daniele12457: brush your teeth?
[06:35] <Kenrin> Why inrelease and not deb https://apt.dockerproject.org/repo ubuntu-xenial main ?
[06:35] <reisio> Kenrin: hrmm?
[06:35] <pam> I'm trying to get a HP Laserjet Pro m401n to work with Ubuntu via a wireless connection.  Can't figure out what to do.  Any ideas?
[06:38] <daniele12457> Kenrin: it is Hit:4 https://apt.dockerproject.org/repo ubuntu-xenial Release
[06:38] <reisio> pam: http://hplipopensource.com/node/365
[06:38] <coil6> "The release of a pivotal historic recording such as this underscores the importance of our disconnecting from what used to be termed mainstream media. This term in itself is a misnomer; research reveals that 72% today harvest their news content from alternative online resources."
[06:39] <reisio> coil6: ...
[06:39] <sruli> i uninstalled NetworkManager i need to download the packages on different pc to reinstall, where do i donwload it from?
[06:41] <Bashing-om> sruli: Which release ?
[06:41] <sruli> lubuntu 16.04
[06:42] <Bashing-om> sruli: http://packages.ubuntu.com/xenial/network-manager .
[06:46] <frib> My wifi doesn't seem to update to the best available SSID.. how can I make it do that?
[06:46] <NoCode> Is there a reason why my USB isn't showing up in my uefi?
[06:49] <thekrynn_> 	in the case where a stat * of a directory results in arg list too long, is there any faster way of achieving the same thing than ls -1 | xargs stat? 	(other than obviously changing the way the files are stored and sharding it into sub dirs)
[06:49] <reisio> does there need to be?
[06:49] <ducasse> NoCode: maybe you need to turn off secure boot?
[06:50] <ducasse> thekrynn_: a for loop, maybe?
[06:50] <thekrynn_> like a files=`ls -1` for file in ${files}; do...
[06:50] <thekrynn_> ?
[06:51] <reisio> that's basically what xargs is
[06:51] <reisio> only purpose built
[06:51] <thekrynn_> the loop takes longer for some reason
[06:51] <reisio> 'cause it's a loop
[06:51] <reisio> if you cared about efficiency, you wouldn't have a thousand million loose files in a single dir
[06:52] <thekrynn_> its in the middle of being rewritten
[06:52] <reisio> so wait till its in the end of
[06:55] <rory> I'm using Ubuntu Gnome 16.04 and I have a couple of questions. (1) How do I disable hot corners? (2) How do I disable mouse acceleration?
[06:56] <thekrynn_> looks like find ./ -type f | xargs was considerably faster for some reason
[06:56] <reisio> thekrynn_: then find . -type f -exec will be even faster
[06:56] <thebluesquirel> hi
[06:56] <reisio> 'lo
[06:59] <thekrynn_> reisio thanks, trying
[06:59] <reisio> rory: #ubuntu-gnome ? #gnome ?
[07:00] <rory> reisio: /join #ubuntu-gnome
[07:00] <rory> oops
[07:00] <reisio> kernel oops
[07:03] <rory> hey I got a big fat bug. a really big fat security type bug
[07:03] <rory> By DEFAULT, the "Terminator" package in Ubuntu 16.04 will "group" new tabs
[07:04] <rory> What this means is that when you open a new tab and start typing things, everything you type gets entered into the first tab too
[07:04] <rory> especialyl when the first tab is IRC
[07:04] <rory> It didn't do this in Ubuntu 15.10
[07:05] <rory> Can someone install terminator and double check it isn't just me?
[07:06] <rory> It's the "broadcast all" option which is on by default
[07:07] <reisio> so disable it?
[07:07] <thebluesquirel> I've been using terminator for like a year without any problems....
[07:07] <rory> I have disabled it reisio
[07:07] <rory> It's an absolutely INSANE default
[07:07] <rory> and I just typed like 5 lines of spam including my sudo password into an IRC channel
[07:08] <daniele12457> Can anyone tell me how can I install docker in ubuntu server?
[07:08] <daniele12457> is the packet docker.io deprecated?
[07:08] <reisio> rory: live by the amateur software, die by the amateur software
[07:08] <reisio> https://bugs.launchpad.net/terminator
[07:08] <reisio> daniele12457: packet?
[07:09] <daniele12457> reisio: with apt-get
[07:09] <rory> what ubuntu version daniele12457
[07:09] <daniele12457> rory: ubuntu 16.14
[07:09] <daniele12457> 16 04
[07:09] <reisio> daniele12457: what is it you want docker for
[07:09] <rory> daniele12457: The official instructions are for 16.04 https://docs.docker.com/engine/installation/linux/ubuntulinux/
[07:09] <daniele12457> containers
[07:09] <reisio> daniele12457: look into lxc instead
[07:09] <rory> reisio: Not very helpful.
[07:10] <reisio> rory: what's not?
[07:10] <ktwo> Hi, where should i save *.jar files (programs) which are not installed by the package manager?
[07:10] <thebluesquirel> sudo apt-get install <name>
[07:10] <reisio> ktwo: anyplace you like
[07:10] <thebluesquirel> I'm on mobile :(
[07:10] <daniele12457> rory: I followed the guide but I cant find docker-engine
[07:10] <ktwo> reisio, yea but whats a reasonable way? should be called by multiple users
[07:10] <daniele12457> http://pastebin.com/wGEeQfBU
[07:10] <reisio> ktwo: what should be called?
[07:10] <ktwo> I kinda am always confused about this on windows i put them under C:\programs
[07:10] <ktwo> but on linux its always a puzzle
[07:11] <reisio> ktwo: you can put a wrapper into /usr/local/bin/ if you want ("java -jar /path/to/jar")
[07:11] <reisio> or modify all users' PATH variable
[07:11] <reisio> or make aliases or functions in .bashrc, etc.
[07:11] <rory> yeah that's weird daniele12457
[07:11] <ktwo> ok thanks :)
[07:12] <rory> daniele12457: try #docker on this network as well
[07:12] <daniele12457> rory: I know, but that's a fresh install
[07:12] <reisio> thebluesquirel: ?
[07:13] <ducasse> daniele12457: if you have problems with the packages provided in docker's repo, ask them for help.
[07:13] <daniele12457> ducasse: will they help me?
[07:13] <ducasse> daniele12457: it's their packages.
[07:14] <daniele12457> ducasse: What's is the best way to ask them?
[07:14] <daniele12457> ducasse: ml or irc?
[07:14] <ducasse> daniele12457: no idea.
[07:14] <daniele12457> ok...
[07:15] <fabrian> sttt
[07:15] <Guest82886> !
[07:15] <ducasse> daniele12457: if you want help now you should try irc. mail could take a while.
[07:15] <daniele12457> ducasse: yeah in irc they are just ignoring me
[07:16] <Guest82886> damn
[07:16] <Guest82886> what do you need help with
[07:17] <ducasse> daniele12457: not really anything we can do about that.
[07:18] <rory> https://bugs.launchpad.net/terminator/+bug/1586734
[07:19] <Guest82886> well uh.. good luck everybody
[07:20] <brianx> daniele12457: it's after midnight us time on saturday night.  you might have more luck during us business hours tuesday.
[07:21] <daniele12457> brianx: oh right :)
[07:21] <brianx> monday is a us holiday.
[07:22] <reisio> yeah
[07:22] <reisio> it's when we celebrate all the people who died in the war that kept republicans as part of our country
[07:22] <reisio> "yay"
[07:22] <reisio> I think I'll boycott it
[07:22] <rory> this channel stays pretty active 24/7 you don't need to come back in "US business hours" lol
[07:22] <rory> just ask again in 1/2 hour
[07:23] <brianx> rory: it's not this channel.
[07:23] <rory> oh docker, right
[07:23] <rory> well, same deal
[07:23] <reisio> it stays fairly active, but native english speaking as a whole online is the least active in about half an hour
[07:23] <reisio> all times preceding and following will be more active :p
[07:24] <daniele12457> reisio: :)
[07:24] <daniele12457> reisio: I will try to ask it again later
[07:28] <daniele12457> It is possible that the problem is caused by the 403 Forbidden in the InRelease directory http://apt.dockerproject.org/repo/dists/ubuntu-xenial/InRelease?
[07:31] <rory> sudo reboot
[07:36] <akis> hi all. i am facing the same issue: http://ubuntuforums.org/showthread.php?t=2323320. Any idea or help?
[07:39] <ducasse> akis: you might want to explain your problem rather than expect people to go to a web page to read about it.
[07:41] <akis> ducasse: no updates notifications since i install 16.04 (fresh installation) My settings are:Automatically check for updates: Daily - When there are security updates: Display immediately - When there are other updates: Display immediately
[07:46] <thekrynn_> any reason why lzop listing headers looks like it's decompressing the whole file?
[07:46] <thekrynn_> gzip does it immediately
[07:49] <coil6> Loving the OS here guys.
[07:50] <coil6> Smooth sailing.
[07:50] <baizon> coil6: nice :)
[07:51] <coil6> Sometimes I love my OS so much that I use my computer just for the sake of enjoying how smoothly it functions.
[07:51] <guillame> coucou
[08:18] <rory> coil6: I think you need a hobby :)
[08:20] <rory> coil6: Do you have a support question btw? because #ubuntu-offtopic is where people chit-chat.
[08:20] <coil6> rory, You don't use IRC and browse the web just to enjoy the smoothness of your OS?
[08:20] <coil6> No. I just wanted to commend the developers.
[08:23] <sonu_nk> Hi , i am using FireFox to join webEx cisco .. but it is required java plugin.. how can i installl on unbuntu 14+
[08:29] <rory> hi sonu_nk I recommend you use this popular PPA to install Oracle Java. Type these commands in a terminal:
[08:29] <rory> sudo apt-add-repository ppa:webupd8team/java
[08:29] <rory> sudo apt-get update
[08:29] <rory> sudo apt-get install oracle-java8-installer
[08:30] <rory> sonu_nk: You'll need to restart Firefox when that's done.
[08:31] <helium> when I run this command, I get this error 10mount: mount: unknown filesystem type 'aufs'
[08:31] <helium> schroot -c trusty-i386
[08:33] <rory> helium: You might need to install the aufs-tools package: "sudo apt-get update && sudo apt-get install aufs-tools"
[08:37] <helium> W: Duplicate sources.list entry http://nightly.apt.ring.cx/ubuntu_14.04/ ring/main i386 Packages (/var/lib/apt/lists/nightly.apt.ring.cx_ubuntu%5f14.04_dists_ring_main_binary-i386_Packages)
[08:48] <sonu_nk> rory, we are connected  ?
[08:49] <thinky> hello
[08:50] <thinky> how can i check for possible errors and fix automatically in ubuntu 16.04? i mean how can i check if my ubuntu system is running proper?
[08:55] <ducasse> thinky: what do you mean by "possible errors"?
[08:55] <thinky> ducasse: i just want to check if ubuntu is running proper
[08:56] <ducasse> thinky: read the logs.
[08:56] <thinky> is there anything like windows error event viewer?
[08:56] <thinky> where are the logs:
[08:56] <thinky> ?
[08:57] <ducasse> i think gnome has a log viewer of sorts, but i don't know if it's installed by defaults. the logs are in /var/log.
[08:58] <thinky> thx ducasse i will check
[09:00] <jatt> thinky: systemctl status
[09:03] <spider> helooooo
[09:03] <thinky> jatt: thx. it drawed a table in terminal
[09:03] <thinky>  State: running      Jobs: 0 queued    Failed: 0 units
[09:04] <jatt> thinky: here a good resource:
[09:04] <jatt> https://www.digitalocean.com/community/tutorials/how-to-use-systemctl-to-manage-systemd-services-and-units
[09:04] <thinky> thx jatt
[09:04] <jatt> with systemctl you can check whether your system is properly running
[09:05] <spider> it's the 1st time to be here
[09:05] <spider> !!!
[09:05] <[Saint]> Exciting stuff.
[09:09] <thinky> thank you jatt i am reading the documentation u posted
[09:09] <thinky> pasted*
[09:18] <akis> ducasse: no updates notifications since i install 16.04 (fresh installation) My settings are:Automatically check for updates: Daily - When there are security updates: Display immediately - When there are other updates: Display immediately
[09:18] <akis> any help or any idea?
[09:18] <akis> i also read this: https://bugs.launchpad.net/ubuntu/+source/update-manager/+bug/1586625
[09:19] <ducasse> akis: if a bug has been filed all you can do is wait for it to be fixed. it might help if you add a comment that you too are affected.
[09:22] <BluesKaj> Howdy folks
[09:28] <sonu_nk> hi/... i am facing some critical issue or its not an issue : http://paste.ubuntu.com/16797746/
[09:28] <sonu_nk> with this for n in `ls /var/lib/apt/lists/*gpg`; do echo "$n" ; gpg --list-packets "$n" | grep FB510D557CC3E840; done
[09:29] <sonu_nk> i got 4 .gpg .i think it should only 1
[09:32] <samgoody> Hi all. According to https://wiki.ubuntu.com/Releases, the current LTS release is 16.04
[09:33] <samgoody> Oh, NM
[09:33] <cglr> #ubuntu-tr
[09:33] <samgoody> Instead, let me just say thanks - you guys make the #1 linux distro for servers!
[09:38] <enebre> access #ubuntu-fr-moderation add enebre  +OVeiortv
[09:39] <knbdgb> my postfix now listen on 25, i can connect from localhost console, but from outside, telnet ip port stock at trying state  and unable to connect to server
[09:39] <knbdgb> how can i fix that?
[09:41] <YankDownUnder> knbdgb, Have you checked the settings of your firewall (ufw) and also your postfix configurations? Just wondering...
[09:44] <mogaj> I want to find and copy files from one folder to another if the file name matches from the list of names in another file. How can i do that. I tried folliwing but it did not work out.  http://paste.ubuntu.com/16798115/
[09:44] <knbdgb> YankDownUnder, yeah i checked it.
[09:44] <YankDownUnder> mogaj, "man cp"
[09:44] <knbdgb> 25/tcp allowed from everywhere
[09:45] <YankDownUnder> knbdgb, And all this changed after you did an upgrade? Or what changed since it last worked properly?
[09:46] <knbdgb> it worked fine, about 1month ago
[09:46] <ducasse> knbdgb: maybe postfix binds to 127.0.0.1?
[09:46] <knbdgb> i never upgrade anything
[09:47] <YankDownUnder> knbdgb, So nothing, absolutely nothing has changed - to the best of your knowledge - it just started to act like this without intervention...?
[09:48] <blabla_01> hi to all
[09:48] <knbdgb> i think i have some trouble with firewall.
[09:49] <YankDownUnder> knbdgb, Have you tried just shutting down the firewall and seeing if that affects the situation?
[09:49] <knbdgb> when i listen on 8090, nc -l ip 8090. the telnet ip 8090 from outside is fail to connect.
[09:49] <knbdgb> yeah, i reboot my server 3 times.
[09:49] <blabla_01> there is a way to compare file system directory tree before and after an sh installation? (i can't view directory tree in that package)
[09:50] <blabla_01> maybe saving results to a file
[09:50] <YankDownUnder> knbdgb, Didn't really have to reboot the server - you can just restart the service(s)...but I digress...you may want to shut down the firewall and double check the ports and configurations.
[10:02] <netcrime> How can you check what permissions user has ?
[10:02] <mojtaba> Hi, I am following these instructions, to install keepassx from the source code. https://github.com/keepassx/keepassx
[10:03] <mojtaba> But the problem is that, when I execute make in the build steps, it gives me: make: *** No targets specified and no makefile found.  Stop.
[10:03] <mojtaba> Do you know how should I install it?!
[10:04] <mojtaba> What does make [-jX] mean?
[10:04] <YankDownUnder> mojtaba, Generally, the process is: "sudo ./configure && make && make install"
[10:05] <ducasse> mojtaba: -j specifies the number of parallel jobs to run.
[10:05] <brunch875> Hello guys! I installed evolution with apt-get and I'm surprised it didn't install evolution-data-server-online-accounts. Does apt-get not install recommended by default? Or is this not recommended on ubuntu? Any ideas on what I should be installing?
[10:05] <mojtaba> YankDownUnder: could you please check that URL.
[10:05] <brunch875> I'm tempted to install evolution* but that might be overkill
[10:06] <mojtaba> Do you know why executing make, gives me that error?
[10:06] <YankDownUnder> mojtaba, Which URL are you referring to, bro?
[10:06] <ducasse> mojtaba: did you run configure?
[10:06] <MonkeyDust> brunch875  try   sudo apt-get install evolution-data-server-online-accounts
[10:06] <mojtaba> YankDownUnder: https://github.com/keepassx/keepassx
[10:07] <mojtaba> ducasse: There is no such file.
[10:07] <\9> ducasse: it uses cmake
[10:07] <\9> mojtaba: are you sure that cmake ran successfully?
[10:07] <brunch875> MonkeyDust: Yeah I figured that out. But is there something else basic like this which I <should> install?
[10:07] <mojtaba> \9: Yes
[10:07] <\9> if it did there should be a Makefile in the build folder
[10:07] <YankDownUnder> mojtaba, Mate, you do know that there are other password managers - specifically built for ubuntu/debian systems, right?
[10:08] <mojtaba> YankDownUnder: like what?
[10:08] <\9> mojtaba: why are you building keepassx from source code anyway?
[10:09] <YankDownUnder> mojtaba, Look, bro...I don't use that stuff...it's a security breach by using one in the first place...but you're not me, and I'm not you...so, if you're comfortable using a "database" to contain your passwords, by all means, take a look...
[10:09] <MonkeyDust> brunch875  simply install what you want, there's nothing you *should* install
[10:09] <mojtaba> \9: What should I do?
[10:09] <ducasse> YankDownUnder: keepassx is a fork for linux systems. but i don't understand why he needs to build it.
[10:09] <\9> mojtaba: the easiest way is to install it from the repo, like specified in the debian step
[10:09] <bazhang> !info keepass2 | mojtaba
[10:10] <mojtaba> bazhang: keepass2 gives me error, and does not run in my system.
[10:10] <mojtaba> \9: It installs the old version.
[10:10] <\9> okay so you need a newer one?
[10:10]  * YankDownUnder is happy with keeping passwords in his head
[10:11] <ducasse> mojtaba: sudo apt install keepassx
[10:11] <\9> YankDownUnder: we got your point, thank you
[10:11] <mojtaba> \9: keepassx 2
[10:11] <seto> eto12
[10:11] <mojtaba> ducasse: It install .4 version
[10:11] <\9> isn't that in a separate keepass2 package?
[10:11] <seto> bleh
[10:12] <ducasse> mojtaba: look for a ppa, there are several.
[10:12] <mojtaba> ducasse: Is that secure?
[10:14] <seto> got a issue here on a live dvd/usb boot kernel panic-not syncing: VFS: unable to mount root fs on unknown block(0,0)
[10:14] <seto> my comp boots fine from the internal ssd though any one got any ideas how to fix?
[10:19] <MonkeyDust> !info keepass2 | mojtaba
[10:19] <mojtaba> MonkeyDust: I have keepass2 installed, but the problem is that it does not work.
[10:23] <ubuntu264> I get a black screen after I select "try ubuntu without installing" or "install ubuntu"
[10:23] <zamaliphe> hi i'm using kernel 4.5.5 as my main kernel how can i remove the default ubntu kernel of 4.2.XX and force ubuntu to use 4.5.5 as main kernel
[10:24] <ubuntu264> I think the problem is that I've just built a desktop with a GTX 1080, and ubuntu 16.04's kernel doesn't support it
[10:27] <Quift> Hi, I'm having some weird problems. New install of 14.04. I cannot seem to install any new packages nor update to 16.04.
[10:27] <Quift> I don't even know where to start looking for a solution.
[10:28] <MonkeyDust> Quift  as of july you will be able to upgrade LTS > LTS, when 16.04.1 is released
[10:28] <rattlebattle79> sudo apt-get update ?
[10:28] <Quift> sudo-apt-get update gives error messge
[10:28] <Quift> utopic.tar missing
[10:28] <rattlebattle79> sudo apt-get update or sudo-apt-get update?
[10:28] <MonkeyDust> Quift  utopic is dead
[10:28] <Quift> I can't install that package either
[10:28] <rattlebattle79> what does the error message say?
[10:29] <MonkeyDust> Quift  delete the utopic source(s), then try again
[10:29] <Quift> there seems to be a lot of comlaining about the mesa drivers
[10:32] <MonkeyDust> Quift  pastebin the output of    cat /etc/apt/sources.list | grep -v ^#
[10:41] <seto> well figured out my issue with my live cd i think
[10:41] <seto> the md5sum was way the hell off
[10:41] <seto> so seems like my torrent dl was no good
[10:46] <KeyboardNotFound> Is there way to disable my AMD GPU in ubuntu 16.04, because wrong driver machine doesn't cool properly.
[10:49] <Cyber_Akuma-Temp> Are there any applications for Ubuntu to read Windows DMP files?
[10:50] <MonkeyDust> Cyber_Akuma-Temp  what are dmp files?
[10:50] <seto> memory dump
[10:50] <seto> from bsods and the like
[10:50] <Cyber_Akuma-Temp> memory dumps when windows crashes
[10:51] <seto> it should just be a formated text file if i recall thats all it is
[10:51] <seto> possibly compressed
[10:51] <Cyber_Akuma-Temp> Windows suddenly started crashing seconds within boot so I can't read the files on windows
[10:51] <abhigenie92> how can I check if I have installed the correct driver for my graphics card.
[10:51] <abhigenie92> My driver manager is not working.
[10:51] <Cyber_Akuma-Temp> So i wanted to try to read them on aubuntu liveusb
[10:51] <abhigenie92> Debugging info: http://paste.ubuntu.com/16799837/
[10:52] <awer> May be the wrong place to ask but can anyone tell by looking at the sring what it is encrypted with? im trying to decrypt it and running out of ideas. $P$BZDQ99hw.NlSNEGVZx0IppNcbD.Fc5.
[10:52] <seto> have you tried just opening in a text editor?
[10:52] <bazhang> try the ##crypto channel awer
[10:52] <awer> bazhang: thanks
[10:53] <abhigenie92> any suggestions folks?
[10:53] <seto> from another site
[10:53] <seto> I always used this tool here to diagnose Windows BSODs: http://www.nirsoft.net/utils/blue_screen_view.html
[10:53] <seto> I'd guess you could run it through WINE. You could also let your brother run the tool himself and take screenshots and have him send you those instead of the dump files.
[10:54] <seto> http://www.overclock.net/t/1492297/solved-can-i-somehow-read-windows-dump-files-in-linux
[10:54] <Cyber_Akuma-Temp> apparently they aren't text according to this: http://computer.forensikblog.de/en/2006/03/dmp-file-structure.html
[10:54] <seto> so basically run the windows tool under wine and open the file
[10:54] <R13ose> Important Software Updates keep popping up in the notifications area, what does that mean?
[10:55] <seto> other option copy the dmps to a external drive and open on another windows machine
[10:55] <Cyber_Akuma-Temp> Never used wine before, would i have to install that or would ubuntu come with it? I know how to use the package manager, but i have no idea how wine works or how you run windows appliations under it
[10:56] <MonkeyDust> R13ose  ubuntu software is constantly being updated and improved ... if you don't want the notifications so often, you can set that in the update options
[10:56] <seto> need to install
[10:56] <seto> from there you just open your fave file manager and right click run with other application choose wine
[10:56] <seto> or .wine somedangfile.exe
[10:56] <Cyber_Akuma-Temp> So i would right-click the exe and choose wine?
[10:57] <seto> from the directory where its at
[10:57] <seto> yep
[10:57] <seto> pretty much
[10:57] <Cyber_Akuma-Temp> ok
[10:57] <Cyber_Akuma-Temp> ... I am really in trouble if ubuntu starts crashing too
[10:57] <seto> most non graphical stuff works perfect by graphical i mean non 3d etc
[10:57] <seto> reg stuff not needing advanced graphics tends to work well
[10:58] <seto> so it should work just fine for the windows dmp tool
[10:58] <Cyber_Akuma-Temp> As long as it's not the cpu, motherboard, or ram. testing the ram right now, but I am pretty sure it's a software issue
[10:59] <seto> do you manage to catch any of the bsod/dump on crash
[10:59] <KeyboardNotFound> Is there way to disable my AMD GPU in ubuntu 16.04, because wrong driver machine doesn't cool properly/
[10:59] <seto> like say irq not less or equal to etc?
[10:59] <Cyber_Akuma-Temp> Some, but they kept changing
[10:59] <R13ose> MonkeyDust: yes but where do I set the notification?
[10:59] <seto> if you see that then it is most probably a driver problem
[10:59] <Cyber_Akuma-Temp> it wasn't that
[10:59] <Cyber_Akuma-Temp> one sec
[11:00] <seto> if you see ref to ram and it changes all the time 50 50 is a ram or as you said software issue
[11:00] <seto> the irq error is 99.9% driver problems
[11:01] <Cyber_Akuma-Temp> two of the ones i caught were BAD_POOL_CALLER and BAD_POOL_HEADER, but there were others'
[11:02] <MonkeyDust> R13ose  in the system settings > sources & updates
[11:02] <R13ose> MonkeyDust: I don't see anything about notification?
[11:02] <seto> ahh another driver related error
[11:03] <seto> you should be able to go in to safe mode and uninstall the drivers for say video sound and network
[11:03] <FrankJor> Hello, I am a bit of a linux newbie, wetting my toes. I have set up an ubuntu server, but I don't know how to install libraries on it, the commands such as apt-get doesn't work. Google is very little help, so could anyone in here help a little with the right way?
[11:03] <Cyber_Akuma-Temp> safe mode bluescreens too
[11:03] <seto> then reinstall 1 by 1 with versons from say 1 verson older
[11:03] <seto> yech
[11:03] <seto> great
[11:04] <seto> safe mode cmd prompt only
[11:04] <Cyber_Akuma-Temp> I was barely able to restore a previous restore point trhough command prompt.... but that didn't help either
[11:04] <Cyber_Akuma-Temp> when i rebooted still crashes
[11:04] <seto> from cmd prompt type explorer and hit enter
[11:04] <seto> that will start the windows shell
[11:04] <seto> and leave you witht he absolute bare min of drivers etc loading
[11:05] <Cyber_Akuma-Temp> that loads less than standard safe mode?
[11:06] <seto> yeh
[11:06] <seto> it is like the absolute bare min needed for windows to boot
[11:06] <MonkeyDust> R13ose  look for    'automatically check for updates'
[11:06] <seto> to compare with linux it would be starting x serv from the cli
[11:07] <seto> if it bsods from safe mode cmd only
[11:07] <seto> its a wrap for that os install
[11:08] <Cyber_Akuma-Temp> Hopefully I can find SOMETHING up with the memory dump files once this ramtest is done
[11:08] <seto> you should be able to do a "upgrade" over top the current os install and not loose data (txt photos etc) but do back up
[11:08] <Cyber_Akuma-Temp> That might point me to what's causing it
[11:08] <Cyber_Akuma-Temp> I installed two drivers in the last 3-4 days, going to try uninstalling those (if i can before it bsods) first to see if that fixes it
[11:09] <seto> vid or sound drivers i bet
[11:09] <seto> basically the cpu is trying to call for resources not avail
[11:09] <seto> meaning they are in use by something else
[11:10] <seto> this use to be extremely common back in the day of needing to manually set irqs
[11:10] <Cyber_Akuma-Temp> one was an update ot the video drivers, and the first attempt crashed when installing so i an very sure it's likely them
[11:10] <Cyber_Akuma-Temp> the other was a virtual cd drive
[11:10] <seto> sound and vid would often fight over the same irq. The fix then was to install the sound card dead last and net work after vid
[11:10] <seto> kill the virt cd
[11:11] <seto> esp if daemon tools
[11:11] <Cyber_Akuma-Temp> Heh, i remember having to mess with irqs back on windows 95
[11:11] <seto> it is a very guilty program lol
[11:11] <Cyber_Akuma-Temp> it's slysoft
[11:11] <seto> it loves to cause bsods
[11:11] <Cyber_Akuma-Temp> i don't like daemon anymore, causes issues
[11:11] <seto> ok still remove the virst cd to test
[11:11] <seto> im betting it is the cause
[11:12] <seto> you can just break the virst cd drive by renaming the exe for it
[11:12] <seto> windows will cry about it on start up about a missing file etc
[11:12] <seto> just dismiss that box
[11:12] <seto> if it boots then you know you got the cause
[11:12] <Cyber_Akuma-Temp> Going to remove both, but I would bet it's the video drivers, since the virtual cd was working fine for a week, and as soon as I updated the video drivers... which glitched at first, it started bsoding
[11:13] <seto> hmm id remove both
[11:13] <Cyber_Akuma-Temp> Though the bsods didn't happen until after i rebooted
[11:13] <seto> d new vid rivers install first then virt cd
[11:13] <seto> basically your gettng a irq conflict ala win 95
[11:13] <seto> same type of deal
[11:14] <seto> 2 devices want the same resources
[11:14] <seto> and are crashing the system
[11:14] <Cyber_Akuma-Temp> hmm....i have a small idea what elseit might be then, will have to look into that
[11:14] <seto> if the virt cd is done last then what happens is it will call for a dif irq
[11:16] <KeyboardNotFound> Is there way to disable my AMD GPU in ubuntu 16.04, because wrong driver machine doesn't cool properly
[11:17] <netcrime> Gunicorn is installed but not installed.. Error: http://prntscr.com/b9rdaw  I'm runing ubuntu 14.04 Virtualenv python3.4 | I have problem that even if i install gunicorn with pip3 from virtualenv activated it still uses python2.7 error log: prntscr.com/b9rclz  | Why this might happen and how can I Fix it ?
[11:18] <MonkeyDust> KeyboardNotFound  is this useful (i use intel myself) ... http://www.omgubuntu.co.uk/2016/03/ubuntu-drops-amd-catalyst-fglrx-driver-16-04
[11:19] <MonkeyDust> s/use/have*
[11:20] <vak> hi all
[11:20] <vak> "systemctl list-unit-files|grep enabled" contains both network-manager.service and the NetworkManager.service is it OK?.. (Ubuntu 16 here)
[11:20] <R13ose> MonkeyDust: thanks
[11:21] <MonkeyDust> R13ose  yw
[11:21] <Inferus> hi all - question for you, im on ubuntu 16 and I'm trying to get my audio to work out of my onboard sound. I have a gfx card with HDMI as well, but I am using a DVI->VGA connector, so I want the audio to come out of the onboard sound via my speakers. When I go into sound settings, everything looks fine and the audio bar is bouncing up and down on the onboard, but then there is no sound. Speakers work fine with my mobile phon
[11:21] <Inferus> e so they're ok.
[11:22] <xdevnull> Guys, i need help with install WIFI drivers. I've asked for that once. but i forgot how to do it
[11:22] <xdevnull> As i remember i have broadbandcom something like this
[11:22] <xdevnull> My laptop HP Pavillion
[11:22] <Inferus> xdevnull:  have you downloaded them
[11:22] <R13ose> How come the network manager doesn't startup sometimes?
[11:22] <xdevnull> Inferus, Not yet. In HP Page they don't have official drivers for ubuntu
[11:23] <Inferus> chances are they dont xdevnull
[11:23] <Inferus> I've never had to install wifi drivers for laptops, they always "just work" out of the box
[11:24] <xdevnull> Will here they aren't
[11:24] <Inferus> do they show up in your devices
[11:24] <xdevnull> Stupid versions of stuff. In windows 7 actually (they should be out-of-the-box) as well, But i can't even install them
[11:24] <KeyboardNotFound> MonkeyDust, I already updated to 16.04, I only need way to disable the AMD GPU and continue using integrated INTE L GPU
[11:24] <xdevnull> Realtek RTL8723BE/RTL8188EE 802.11b/g/n Wireless LAN Drivers
[11:25] <BluesKaj> Inferus, open alsamixer in the terminal and make sure auto mute is disabled by using the down arrow key if it's enabled. That's a start at least.
[11:25] <Inferus> BluesKaj: one sec
[11:26] <FrankJor> Could anyone invite me to the ubuntu beginners channel then?
[11:26] <Inferus> BluesKaj: all volume is at max
[11:26] <vak> xdevnull: having massive troubles with RTL8723 here
[11:26] <MonkeyDust> FrankJor  ask your question here and wait
[11:27] <xdevnull> vak, Same thing?
[11:27] <BluesKaj> Inferus, look for the automute on the far right, also make sure no volume ctrls are muted (MM)
[11:28] <FrankJor> ok, I did. Was unsure if this was the place.
[11:28] <vak> xdevnull: notebook is Lenova Yoga, but all last 3 years always troubles with WiFi.
[11:28] <Inferus> BluesKaj: some have got MM
[11:28] <Inferus> how do i take the MM off
[11:28] <MonkeyDust> FrankJor  hit the up arrow to repeat the question, in one line
[11:28] <BluesKaj> use the M key
[11:28] <xdevnull> vak, well if i figure it out. I'll hit u up with the link
[11:28] <xdevnull> i remember someone helped me here..
[11:29] <FrankJor> Hello, I am a bit of a linux newbie, wetting my toes. I have set up an ubuntu server, but I don't know how to install libraries on it, the commands such as apt-get doesn't work. Google is very little help, so could anyone in here help a little with the right way?
[11:29] <vak> xdevnull: what rtl8723 driver are sitting on?
[11:29] <xdevnull> Realtek RTL8723BE/RTL8188EE 802.11b/g/n Wireless LAN Drivers
[11:29] <MonkeyDust> FrankJor  apt-get is the basis of the basis ... define 'doesn't work'
[11:29] <xdevnull> Version 2023.16.715.2015
[11:30] <xdevnull> HP page shows two different drivers, I really don't know what's going on?
[11:30] <xdevnull> http://support.hp.com/us-en/drivers/selfservice/hp-pavilion-15-p200-notebook-pc-series/7486459/model/7685145?ssfFlag=true&sku=L0D45EA
[11:30] <Inferus> FrankJor: sudo apt-get
[11:30] <Inferus> and its case sensitive
[11:30] <xdevnull> I've realtek and broadcom
[11:31] <vak> xdevnull: it looks like you're talking about Windows driver, i am about Linux one
[11:31] <Inferus> BluesKaj: still no luck
[11:31] <xdevnull> vak, I want install in Linux :(
[11:31] <xdevnull> So i'm searching for driver name in my HP page :P
[11:32] <xdevnull> vak, If i'm correct https://help.ubuntu.com/community/WifiDocs/Driver/bcm43xx this will help.
[11:32] <xdevnull> brb
[11:32] <vak> xdevnull: i am only about rtl8723 here no idea about this broadcom one
[11:37] <BluesKaj> Inferus, open pulseaudio and set your audio output to analog/ speakers
[11:37] <xdevnull> Oh yeah now workin
[11:37] <Inferus> 1 mo
[11:38] <FrankJor> I think I got it, thanks
[11:39] <MonkeyDust> !manual | FrankJor
[11:39] <Inferus> BluesKaj: I'm in pulse now
[11:40] <Inferus> BluesKaj: everything says "built in audio analogue stereo"
[11:45] <dars> How to set password on drives in ubuntu ?
[11:45] <BluesKaj> Inferus, install pavucontrol , it can help you choose the correct output in the dropdown
[11:46] <Inferus> BluesKaj:  i have that already
[11:47] <dars> how to set password on drives ?
[11:47] <dars> like how fedora provides
[11:48] <BluesKaj> Inferus, which audio chip shows in alsamixer top left
[11:48] <jatt> dars: encrypt it
[11:48] <dars> jatt, how to encrypt ?
[11:50] <jatt> dars: with cryptkeeper for example
[11:50] <dars> does it encrypt harddrives also ?
[11:50] <dars> jatt
[11:50] <Inferus> BluesKaj: onboard
[11:51] <Inferus> BluesKaj: Realtek ALC850 rev 0
[11:51] <jatt> dars: nope, it works with folders
[11:51] <dars> jatt, i want to encrypt hard drives
[11:52] <ducasse> dars: if you want to encrypt an entire drive, use luks/dm-crypt.
[11:52] <jatt> dars: you can enable disk encryption during installation
[11:53] <dars> ducasse, how to install
[11:53] <dars> ?
[11:53] <ducasse> dars: there are many guides online.
[11:55] <Inferus> BluesKaj: just reading something which says i need snd-hda-intel driver?
[11:56] <BluesKaj> Inferus, ok run , sudo modprobe snd_hda_intel
[11:56] <Inferus> nothing?
[11:56] <BluesKaj> there won't be any output from the command if the driver loads properly
[11:56] <Inferus> yeah no ouptut
[11:56] <BluesKaj> Inferus, ^
[11:57] <BluesKaj> ok , reboot
[11:57] <Inferus> so what does that mean?
[11:57] <Inferus> ok be back in 2 mins
[11:57] <Inferus> thanks =]
[11:57] <BluesKaj> the driver wasn't loading, it's an old bug that hasn't been fixed
[12:01] <Inferus> BluesKaj: no sound =[
[12:04] <BluesKaj> Inferus, take a screenshot with prtscn key of your alsamixer and paste it in imgur.com
[12:08] <BluesKaj> Inferus, then paste the resulting url here
[12:08] <dars> there are some broken packages on my ubuntu
[12:09] <dars> how to remove them ?
[12:09] <Inferus> ok 1 mo
[12:10] <Inferus> BluesKaj: http://imgur.com/hKYIc9i
[12:11] <BrianTheDog> us.undernet.org
[12:11] <dars> how to fix broken packages
[12:11] <dars> mysql-server is broken
[12:12] <dars> i get this message everytime when i try to install anything
[12:12] <dars> dpkg: error processing package mysql-server (--configure):
[12:12] <dars>  dependency problems - leaving unconfigured
[12:12] <dars> No apport report written because the error message indicates its a followup error from a previous failure.
[12:12] <dars>                     Errors were encountered while processing:
[12:12] <dars>  mysql-server-5.7
[12:13] <Inferus>  dars try an apt-get update
[12:13] <MonkeyDust> dars  I picked this up in this channel ... save it as 'fixpackages' ... make executable with 'chmod +x fixpackages' ... then run it with './fixpackages' ... http://paste.ubuntu.com/15121279/
[12:13] <dars> http://pastebin.com/3aQuA2Yy
[12:13] <BluesKaj> Inferus, try turning up the Master M vol and unmuting it
[12:13] <dars> Inferus, apt-get update results in same thing
[12:14] <Inferus> BluesKaj:  done
[12:14] <Inferus> BluesKaj:  just going to reboot brb
[12:15] <BluesKaj> dars , run sudo dpkd --configure -a then sudo apt -f install
[12:15] <BluesKaj> oops dars
[12:15] <BluesKaj> sudo dpkg --configure -a
[12:16] <Inferus> BluesKaj: back
[12:18] <dars> BlusKaj, done
[12:18] <dars> but getting the same result
[12:18] <dars> *BluesKaj
[12:19] <BluesKaj> did you run , the -f install dars?
[12:19] <dars> yes
[12:19] <Inferus> BluesKaj: i think i've got a solution, possibly.
[12:20] <BluesKaj> Inferus, ok and?
[12:20] <Inferus> reading a post that says alsa treats the hdmi as primary
[12:21] <effectnet> hello and good morning in here
[12:21] <BluesKaj> dars, are you running ubuntu-server?
[12:21] <dars> no
[12:22] <effectnet> i'm still switching a box from win to ubu.  gonna install the thunderbird in windows, port all mail to thunderbird, then use that directory for my ubu thunderbird
[12:22] <effectnet> anyone done that?  sounds easy enough
[12:22] <BluesKaj> Inferus, yes but only if you have a hdmi connected afaik
[12:23] <Inferus> BluesKaj: thats what i would have thought
[12:25] <Inferus> BluesKaj: inxi says card 1 is my hdmi
[12:26] <BluesKaj> Inferus, check alsamixer , then F6 and make sure you choose '0" then hit the escape button and run, sudo alsactl store
[12:26] <Inferus> BluesKaj: it also says THAT is using the snd-hda-intel driver
[12:27] <BluesKaj> it should be Card 0 that uses the driver not hdmi
[12:27] <Inferus> its set the hdmi driver
[12:27] <Inferus> not the onboard
[12:32] <Inferus> brb
[12:33] <BluesKaj> Inferus, did you choose the soundcard in alsamixer F6 as I suggested ?
[12:36] <Inferus> BluesKaj:  none are working, i have 3 sets of headphones plugged into pc
[12:38] <effectnet> geez!  thunderbird does not support importing from some outlooks!!!  fyi too!!!
[12:38] <effectnet> i have to make pst files now?
[12:40] <BluesKaj> Inferus,  aplay -l which is listed as Card 0 ?
[12:40] <dav> hi someone can help with runtime bad blocks on a new SSD? thank you
[12:41] <Inferus>  
[12:42] <Inferus> BluesKaj: CK804
[12:42] <Inferus> (AC97)
[12:44] <BluesKaj> inferus, my solution was to purge pulseaudio , it kept misdirecting the audio, but that was my solution, it may not work for you
[12:45] <Inferus> heh
[12:45] <Inferus> will look into that next
[12:45] <Inferus> just trying a alsa-conf setting
[12:45] <Inferus> for snd-hda-intel to generic
[12:45] <Inferus> brb
[12:45] <rahulraz> Hey I mistakely deleted my /etc/apt/ dir  How to fix it? I got back sources.list n etc but keys etc are still missing
[12:51] <effectnet> ah well the older version of thunderbird wont import outlook 2007 either.
[12:51] <deep0> i cannot mount my android device
[12:55] <BluesKaj> deep0, via usb?
[12:58] <albert__> quit
[13:03] <Reza_Sam96> hi...what is the best editor for video and voice for creat education video?
[13:05] <Reza_Sam96> hi
[13:05] <Reza_Sam96> Can Ypu hear me?
[13:05] <Reza_Sam96> you*
[13:06] <Fuchs> Reza_Sam96: yes, on IRC it can happen that you don't get an instant reply
[13:06] <Fuchs> you need to be patient. Maybe kdenlive would work for you, check it out.
[13:07] <Reza_Sam96> tnx
[13:07] <santo_santo> !list
[13:23] <link0802> Hello. In gnome shell I have touchpad settings, but in unity I have only mouse settings (no touchpad tab). Ubuntu 16.04. Can anybody help?
[13:25] <iron_houzi> I need to upgrade libseccomp on 16.04. Are there any deb packaging build scripts I can use as a template to make my own deb package?
[13:28] <Queenslayer> Anyone running Chromium on 16.04
[13:28] <Queenslayer> ?
[13:30] <MonkeyDust> Queenslayer  that's a yes/no question
[13:30] <Queenslayer> Yes or No, yes :p
[13:31] <Queenslayer> Basically want someone to try a website contain flash content
[13:32] <Queenslayer> Because I'm pretty sure that Chromium is the cause
[13:41] <curlyears> gratings.
[13:42] <curlyears> can anyone suggest a means oif burning an install DVD on a system which is Live-booted (and thus is already using the DVD drive)
[13:43] <curlyears> I suppose I could use a USB<->SATA adapter, and plug in an older DVD drive
[13:43] <vacho> join #drupal
[13:44] <curlyears> I don't want to have to shut the system down until I have bnoth burned the 16.04 installer, and also copied some daa off the RAMDrive
[13:44] <curlyears> s/daa/data/
[13:44] <curlyears> what is #drupal?
[13:45] <crs___> curlyears: do you really have to burn it? you can also put it on an usb-drive
[13:45] <curlyears> \crs__:  for some reason, this motherboard diesn't support booting from a USB stick.
[13:46] <curlyears> s/dies/does/
[13:46] <grigory> hello
[13:46] <curlyears> the RAMDrive data I can copy to a USB thumb though, true
[13:47] <curlyears> I got so focussed on the DVD problem, the USV thumb didn't occur to me  *DOH*
[13:47] <curlyears> s/USV/USB/
[13:47] <crs___> is the mainboard that old? maybe you have to try a different usb-port to get it booting from stick
[13:48] <crs___> i always have trouble with usb3.0 ports
[13:48] <debguy> [16:45] <debianguy> hey guys what command can I use when moving my hard disk from a machine to another? [16:47] <debianguy> planning to move my debian from a 2014 config to a 2011
[13:48] <curlyears> I suppose that could be the issue.
[13:48] <crs___> but no, i have no idea how to burn a dvd without a second dvd-drive ;)
[13:49] <debguy> do i have to run any command at all? does it work oob with new hardware?
[13:50] <curlyears> *sigh*  that means I have to wait another week, runninig un der Live-DVD.  That's when my replacement PSU arrives (I hope) and I can stabilize this machine
[13:50] <curlyears> debguy:   go ask on the debian sup[port channel.  This is ubuntu support
[13:51] <debguy> @curlyears ubuntu is debian :s
[13:51] <curlyears> debguy: not trying to be a jerk.  Seriously, you're more likely to get a useful and knowledgable answer there
[13:52] <curlyears> they are seperate distros
[13:52] <debguy> @curlyears It's not a pure debian it's more of a kali-ubuntu-debian
[13:52] <debguy> I'm looking for a script/app that has this in mind
[13:52] <curlyears> whatever
[13:55] <MonkeyDust> debguy  what is the output of   cat /etc/issue
[13:56] <debguy> @monkeydust thanks just a sec let me switch to linux
[13:57] <mlvmhn> which ubuntu version is best for low performance laptops?
[13:57] <yeats> mlvmhn: lubuntu (IMHO)
[13:58] <mlvmhn> ok, i have dual core processor and 2 GB RAM, will that do?
[13:58] <chu> That's more than I have running XFCE
[13:58] <chu> You'll be fine with lubuntu or xubuntu
[14:00] <mlvmhn> k can i run vlc player, qbittorrent in these OS?
[14:00] <MonkeyDust> mlvmhn  sure
[14:01] <mlvmhn> what are the differences between xubuntu and lubuntu?
[14:02] <debguy> @monkeydust kali linux w/ 4.6
[14:02] <debguy> any idea of a script I can use?
[14:02] <ducasse> mlvmhn: the desktop environment.
[14:02] <debguy> will I be safe with just recompiling the kernel?
[14:03] <MonkeyDust> debguy  kali is not supported here, you're in the wrong channel
[14:04] <debguy> @monkeydust let's assume I'm using ubuntu do you know any such script?
[14:04] <MonkeyDust> debguy  we don't assume in this channel
[14:05] <debguy> @monkeydust ok do you know of any such script for an ubuntu user
[14:05] <mlvmhn> can i try without installing?
[14:05] <ducasse> debguy: you've been told, this is not the right channel. you're not running ubuntu.
[14:06] <chu> mlvmhn: There should be Live versions of both lubuntu and xubuntu available.
[14:06] <ducasse> mlvmhn: when you boot the installer you are given the option to try it out.
[14:06] <debguy> @ducasse I miss the old days of this channel when we weren't racist towards people who chose to use a different kernel
[14:06] <MonkeyDust> debguy  https://www.kali.org/community/
[14:07] <chu> debguy: It's been a policy for a while that #ubuntu only supports Ubuntu and its official derivatives.
[14:07] <ducasse> debguy: a different *distro*. we don't know what changes they have made, so we can't advice you.
[14:07] <debguy> yeah I won't blame you if anything breaks I just want to know if anyone knows/ever used such a script..
[14:08] <debguy> and "back in the day" we didn't have this policy @chu :(
[14:08] <chu> The policy's been in place for as long as I've been around, and that's at least 8 years now.
[14:08] <MonkeyDust> !kali
[14:09] <r_rios> Hello. My computer is freezes sometimes, shortly after booting. It freezes once, or twice, then stops after I restart it.
[14:09] <r_rios> Are there any logs I can look to try and diagnose that?
[14:10] <debguy> @chu yeah I don't exactly remember how many years ago but I remember when #ubuntu was about helping people
[14:12] <mlvmhn> k, i think i will try lubuntu, how do i install it using terminal?
[14:12] <bosi> Hello everyone, I am having trouble with my wireless in the Ubuntu 14.04 on a Dell Latitude E6530. It works fine then eventually disconnects and won't recognize any network. If I restart the PC, the wireless works again, until it decides not to. Any clue? Thank you!
[14:14] <ubuntufriend> hi guys does anyone know any script that helps with mitigating to another machine? for ubuntu 16.10?
[14:16] <vamadir> 123
[14:16] <vamadir> !ping
[14:17] <tuttle955i> Bazinga
[14:18] <erasmus> bazhang is a jerk.
[14:19] <erasmus> oh you said bazinga n/m
[14:24] <ubuntufriend> if i recompile my ubuntu kernel with drivers for my new machine will everything work just fine?
[14:27] <Hydr0p0nX> ubuntufriend - if you recompile it correctly, and don't miss anything, then it will work but, you'll probably have to update it yourself going forward
[14:28] <iron_houzi> I know about conf files in /etc/ld.so.conf.d to add library paths, but how do I set the search order?
[14:28] <lerner> xbacklight -dec 10 returns No outputs have backlight property. Google returns too many solutions, I dont know if those are updated or valid. Im on 16.04...
[14:29] <ubuntufriend> @hydr0p0nX: thanks alot! but this installation of ubuntu im talking about was installed on newer hardware and i want to move it to older hardware, is there anything else I should worry about?
[14:33] <Hydr0p0nX> ubuntufriend: if you're just moving to a different box, the only thing you need to worry about drivers you installed manually.
[14:33] <ubuntufriend> alright cheers man!
[14:34] <selcuk> hello i need help for watch employers screen on my company
[14:34] <selcuk> who help me :)
[14:34] <OerHeks> ubuntufriend, and UUID of the other harddrives that are in grub, network interfaces ...
[14:34] <Hydr0p0nX> ubuntufriend: oh, and make sure your fstab is right
[14:34] <OerHeks> ubuntufriend, install fresh
[14:36] <selcuk> who tell me, how can i watch our company employers screen on ubuntu
[14:37] <OerHeks> selcuk, what is 'our company employers screen' ???
[14:37] <ubuntufriend> @selcuk any vnc software
[14:38] <selcuk> pc
[14:38] <selcuk> we watch personel pc screen
[14:38] <OerHeks> oh big brother ..
[14:38] <ubuntufriend> @selcuk http://askubuntu.com/questions/120973/how-do-i-start-vnc-server-on-boot
[14:38] <selcuk> :)
[14:39] <selcuk> i'm looking now askubuntu
[14:39] <ducasse> selcuk: don't do that before checking if it's legal in your jurisdiction.
[14:39] <selcuk> but i dont want to vnc
[14:40] <ubuntufriend> @selcuk you can disable client's permissions if you only want to watch
[14:40] <selcuk> it is okay ducasse
[14:40] <oeuvre> Camille Chat! It's a powerplay goal!
[14:40] <selcuk> because all personel signature our contract
[14:41] <selcuk> boss wants screenshots of all employees on one screen.
[14:41] <OerHeks> get boss out of lazy chair, selcuk
[14:42] <selcuk> :)
[14:42] <selcuk> please look this page http://italc.sourceforge.net/screenshots.php?img=italc-1.0.6_1.jpg&label=1
[14:42] <ducasse> selcuk: this is a complex legal question, make sure to ask a lawyer. besides, it's just plain wrong to do this.
[14:42] <OerHeks> no more tea for boss
[14:42] <oeuvre> your boss has cams on all his employees?
[14:42] <selcuk> i want to use this program, but i cant run.
[14:42] <selcuk> yes
[14:42] <selcuk> :)
[14:42] <selcuk> cam
[14:42] <selcuk> please look this page http://italc.sourceforge.net/screenshots.php?img=italc-1.0.6_1.jpg&label=1
[14:42] <oeuvre> print out a smiley face and tape it oeuvre the camera
[14:43] <oeuvre> so, intelligent spying on your employees?
[14:43] <selcuk> this iTALC program work ubuntu. But i cant run
[14:43] <oeuvre> sounds like your boss has trust issues
[14:43] <lerner> echo 0 | sudo tee  /sys/class/backlight/acpi_video0/brightness < this dimmed my screen, I can barely see what I write
[14:43] <selcuk> no any spying, all personel now this watch details.
[14:43] <lerner> how do I establish a value? 40%? for instance
[14:43] <selcuk> all employess signoture contract
[14:43] <oeuvre> this page has bad UX... 4 clicks to get to downloads and then
[14:44] <selcuk> so
[14:44] <ducasse> selcuk: you do know that you can't sign a contract to allow something that is illegal, right?
[14:44] <ubuntufriend> @selcuk have you checked the instructions inside the "INSTALL" file?
[14:44] <selcuk> you know Ubuntu Landscape, i want to find free software same as Landscape
[14:45] <selcuk> dear ubuntufrined i try to install
[14:45] <selcuk> make install
[14:45] <selcuk> but
[14:45] <ubuntufriend> @selcuk it literally spoonfeeds you on how to build it :s
[14:45] <selcuk> dear ubuntufrined
[14:45] <selcuk> if i give you teamwiever
[14:46] <selcuk> can you help me?
[14:46] <ubuntufriend> unfourtunately that's against this channel's rules and I also don't have time
[14:46] <ubuntufriend> but everything you need is in that "install" text file @selcuk
[14:47] <selcuk> :(
[14:47] <selcuk> friendly help
[14:47] <selcuk> okey i try againg
[14:47] <selcuk> i'll turn back guys :)
[14:47] <moppers> Hi! I am trying to use an application that has a dependency on libgnutls26.so in Ubuntu Xenial. This library appears to be not present in the repo (but was for older Ubuntus)
[14:48] <ubuntufriend> @selcuk I found a prebuilt version https://packages.debian.org/jessie/i386/italc-master/download just run with dpkg -i
[14:49] <MonkeyDust> !find libgnutls | moppers
[14:49] <OerHeks> moppers, isn't that part of libgnutls http://packages.ubuntu.com/xenial/libgnutls-dev
[14:49] <OerHeks> 26 is dead, 27 is current?
[14:49] <OerHeks> ..or 28
[14:50] <moppers> OerHeks: I have installed libgnutls-dev but I still get the error about being unable to find libngnutls26.so
[14:51] <moppers> i get this: error: libgnutls.so.26: cannot open shared object file: No such file or directory
[14:52] <OerHeks> moppers, then the application uses old libs, ask for an upgrade?
[14:52] <OerHeks> xenial http://packages.ubuntu.com/xenial/libgnutls30
[14:53] <ubuntufriend> @moppers: change the dep version from 26 to latest then fix compiling errors or find 26.so?
[14:54] <moppers> ubuntufriend: That's safe? I can find a version of 26 from an older ubuntu but it's not going to break anything?
[14:54] <ubuntufriend> should be safe if its official release
[14:55] <OerHeks> don't mix versions ..
[14:55] <moppers> I can find the library in 12.04 LTS but I run Xenial
[14:55] <moppers> i'm not really happy about using an older library and having a frankenstein distro
[14:56] <ubuntufriend> then u can update the dep urself but u might have to fix more than compiling errors :s
[14:57] <ubuntufriend> @OerHeks whats wrong with having 2 versions of the same lib?
[14:58] <moppers> ubuntufriend: I've seen it break something too many times.
[14:58] <OerHeks> ubuntufriend, how do we tell if it is wrong, no name of the app he wants to install
[14:58] <OerHeks> with gnu utils i wonder ..
[14:59] <moppers> OerHeks: It's a proprietary application. I am not even allowed to mention we're using it, according to my contract. Yes this is crap.
[14:59] <OerHeks> moppers, then apply their support
[15:00] <moppers> OerHeks: I note private internet access has the same error message and this is also related to vpn, so maybe they "borrowed" some code from PIA :-)
[15:01] <ubuntufriend> heh sorry then
[15:01] <ubuntufriend> love my ubuntu for never breaking so far
[15:01] <RomanLier-> ubuntufriend: you lucky
[15:02] <Strive> ubuntufriend, I recently installed ubuntu mate on my aging lenovo and it works fantastic
[15:02] <Strive> since i'm fairly new to linux altogether, this distro really really makes it easy for me to learn
[15:03] <ubuntufriend> glad to hear @strive I'm also gonna install it on an ancient computer with an ssd
[15:03] <ubuntufriend> can't wait to see how that will go
[15:03] <moppers> I am going to install Xenial into a VM, and install the gnutls from Precise, and see if that works. if it breaks, no big deal - it's just a vm
[15:03] <Strive> ooo ssd nice
[15:03] <ubuntufriend> @moppers pls let us know that turned out :imp:
[15:04] <Strive> Lenovo T400 laptop...old, but not too old...ubuntufriend, what is ancient to you?
[15:07] <RomanLier-> Kenrin: are you there? just finished dist-upgrade and still cannot install ibus-hangul....
[15:07] <ubuntufriend> @strive heh guess mine was an exaggeration then hp touchsmart tm2
[15:08] <Strive> haha
[15:08] <dede> hi, xubuntu 16.04
[15:09] <BluesKaj> Strive, I use a desktop from the same era and I have kubuntu/kde/plasma and it all runs fine
[15:09] <dede> I dimmed my screen completely and now I cannot see anything.
[15:09] <RomanLier-> still same error: http://storage8.static.itmages.com/i/16/0529/h_1464534543_3557191_1a5174b842.png
[15:09] <dede> Im using a different computer so I cannot paste the command I used
[15:09] <dede> how do I undim my screen?
[15:09] <dede> this is on a laptop
[15:09] <Strive> BluesKaj, how much ram?
[15:10] <moppers> dede: There are usually keys on the laptop you can press for that. or did you dim it via software?
[15:10] <Strive> BluesKaj, I have 4gb of ram...with plans on upgrading to 8 soon.
[15:10] <BluesKaj> Strive, itcame with 3GB but I added another 3
[15:10] <Strive> BluesKaj, ahh nice stable enough
[15:10] <dede> moppers: function keys dont work, I entered a command
[15:11] <dede> starting with echo IIRC
[15:11] <moppers> dede: can you plug in an external monitor, to see what you've done on the lappie?
[15:12] <dede> nope
[15:12] <BluesKaj> yeah Strive , being a desktop I was able to add a pci entry level nvidia 8400GS graphics card as well
[15:13] <Strive> BluesKaj, that's pretty decent to run desktop environments
[15:13] <RomanLier-> hey i have 1gig of ram
[15:13] <Strive> RomanLier-, you're a true fighter
[15:13] <Strive> :)
[15:14] <dede> cat /sys/class/backlight/acpi_video0/max_brightness < will that work?
[15:14] <BluesKaj> Strive, yeah works well for an old machine, also replaced the old hdd with a samsung evo 850 256GB SSD , that reall sped things up
[15:14] <RomanLier-> Strive: well, it's just an exo classmate netbook pc... i don't expect too much
[15:15] <Strive> BluesKaj, your one lucky son of...loll ssd's are fast
[15:16] <Strive> RomanLier-, that explains it
[15:16] <BluesKaj> Strive, think your T500 will be quite happy with ubuintu
[15:16] <Strive> T400 :(
[15:16] <Strive> but yes
[15:16] <Strive> it is
[15:16] <RomanLier-> :)
[15:16] <Inferus> hey BluesKaj
[15:16] <BluesKaj> t400 rather yes
[15:16] <Inferus> ive been working on the issue with my sound
[15:16] <Strive> #! shebang!
[15:16] <BluesKaj> Inferus, JHi , making any progress?
[15:16] <Inferus> just disabled snd_hda_hdmi_codec and snd_hda_intel and now I get no volume control icon on desktop
[15:17] <Inferus> so the desktop cant be looking at the right sound device
[15:17] <BluesKaj> Inferus, not a good idea to disable snd-hda-intel , that's your audio driver
[15:18] <Inferus> i thought that
[15:18] <Inferus> but when I look in terminal at it, it's using Intel8x0
[15:18] <Inferus> snd_intel8x0
[15:19] <BluesKaj> ok , but do you have audio
[15:19] <Inferus> nope
[15:19] <Inferus> =[
[15:19] <Inferus> BluesKaj: inxi now only shows the one audio device though, the onboard CK804 AC97, using snd_intel8x0 driver
[15:20] <Inferus> BluesKaj: sorry no, it does show both still.
[15:20] <BluesKaj> infer does aplay -l show what's card 0 ?
[15:21] <BluesKaj> Inferus,^
[15:21] <Inferus> BluesKaj: : card 0: Nvidia 804, onboard
[15:22] <lerner> hi again
[15:22] <lerner> echo 0 | sudo tee  /sys/class/backlight/acpi_video0/brightness
[15:22] <lerner> what is the oppposite to that?
[15:23] <BluesKaj> Inferus, ok try to get the hda audio driver to use it by choosing thatNvidia 804 in F6 in alsamixer
[15:24] <Inferus> BluesKaj: its the only option in there now
[15:27] <Inferus> BluesKaj: whats weird is my pc now thinks there is no sound, so no sound control icon in task bar
[15:27] <lerner> what app can I use to dim a screen?
[15:28] <BluesKaj> lerner usually power management
[15:29] <Inferus> BluesKaj: does ubuntu not have /boot/grub/menu any more?
[15:29] <Inferus> I was oghing to try a command line switch
[15:29] <ducasse> lerner: on my laptop it is set to 10, try that.
[15:30] <dewdl> I dont know much about linux systems, i want to reinstall audio modules. How do I got about doing this?
[15:30] <kesha> Hi all, anyone lives?
[15:30] <lerner> BluesKaj, my function keys dont work... any tips?
[15:30] <Inferus> dewdl: apt-get remove
[15:30] <BluesKaj> Inferus, you've disable snd-hda-intel drive r, so no icon will show
[15:30] <lerner> ducasse, do you mean cho 0 | sudo tee  /sys/class/backlight/acpi_video0/brightness ?
[15:31] <Inferus> ok cheers, i'll have a look now
[15:31] <Inferus> brb
[15:31] <kesha> I have a question about DNAT at lo interface. Is it possible?
[15:32] <kesha> I need open the port of memcached for one IP
[15:32] <ducasse> lerner: if you mean "echo 10", yes.
[15:32] <dewdl> Inferus, sorry should have been more clear, I dont know what to remove
[15:32] <lerner> ducasse, I had to restart my laptop for messing with that command, im reluctant to do what you suggest...
[15:33] <lerner> echo 1 = 100%?
[15:34] <ducasse> lerner: do "cat /sys/class/backlight/acpi_video0/brightness" first to see what it is set to. there's a lot of info on backlight here: https://wiki.archlinux.org/index.php/Backlight
[15:36] <lerner> ducasse, 7, is that 70%?
[15:37] <ducasse> lerner: i would guess so. check the link i gave you, it is comprehensive and can answer you better than i can.
[15:41] <Strive> Every distro has bash correct?
[15:45] <MonkeyDust> Strive  or you can install it, no doubt
[15:45] <BluesKaj> Strive, dunno for sure, i stick with debian based distros which use bash by default
[15:45] <Inferus> BluesKaj: i have reenabled the snd_hda_intel, still no sound icon on toolbar
[15:46] <Inferus> so disabling the hdmi has killed it
[15:46] <sodomy> Does anyone know how to convince systemd to start a getty on tty7 after i've moved X11 to a different tty?
[15:46] <Strive> BluesKaj, thank you. I ask because I'm self-teaching bash scripting and thought it was universal on all distros
[15:47] <Inferus> brb
[15:50] <lerner> https://wiki.archlinux.org/index.php/Backlight#Kernel_command-line_options.xbacklight < im now creating a "/etc/X11/xorg.conf" file and I have no idea what to do next... I have copied it. Now what?
[15:50] <Lasivian> so.. odd problem. 16.04, new install, and when I put in my password to login it immediately pops back to the password screen
[15:50] <OerHeks> sodomy, with such nickname you won't find much answers here..
[15:50] <OerHeks> just saying
[15:50] <lerner> im in the "xbacklight" section
[15:51] <Cuchuflito> ok bye
[15:51] <Lasivian> I had installed Gnome flashback and was using it, but it still loops me no matter what desktop I pick
[15:52] <Lasivian> Not sure how to get into the machine to fix it in the first place, heh
[15:52] <ubuntu> q
[15:55] <GeeMac> Hi folks,  I'm on 14.04 LTS  I woul like to upgrade but I am worried about losing all my settings and the way the GUI is set up.   I have been in the forums and wikis but keep getting conflicted answers on how to upgrade without losing settings.
[15:55] <BluesKaj> inferus, check this: https://help.ubuntu.com/community/SoundTroubleshootingProcedure
[15:55] <MonkeyDust> GeeMac  first of all, make a backup
[15:55] <OerHeks> GeeMac, if you don't have a backup of your data, it is not important
[15:56] <Inferus> BluesKaj: i think i've ruined sound completel;y
[15:56] <MonkeyDust> GeeMac  and if you have a separate /home partition, simply don't format it during fresh install
[15:56] <OerHeks> and when upgrading to 16.04, i would prepare an USB with the iso first, just in case..
[15:56] <BluesKaj> Inferus, check the url i posted
[15:56] <GeeMac> Is there any actual set way of upgrading without the chances of losing things?  As for backup Geeze.... I'll need another drive to back up my Home folder.
[15:57] <Inferus> no sound icon, and i've reversed all my changes lol
[15:57] <GeeMac> What about sudo apt-get upgrade -d?
[15:58] <MonkeyDust> GeeMac  apt-get upgrade upgrades the installed packages, not the distro release
[15:59] <MonkeyDust> GeeMac  as of july, you can upgrade directly LTS > LTS
[16:00] <GeeMac> I thought there was some command after the "upgrade" something like -d  Hmm have to go back and look at that.  but as for backing up  guess I'll have to wait until I get another drive.  That home folder is huge.
[16:00] <OerHeks> -d development
[16:01] <GeeMac> MonkeyDust, this July...  What would be the difference.  I can wait to then.
[16:01] <sodomy> OerHeks: I fail to see how a nickname (which I've had for years) affects the ability of people to provide help.
[16:01] <MonkeyDust> GeeMac  in july, 16.04.1 will be released, the point release
[16:01] <sodomy> OerHeks: However, if you're that ignorant; have at it.
[16:02] <GeeMac> Ahhh OK.
[16:02] <MonkeyDust> !ltsupgrade
[16:03] <GeeMac> Thanks.  I can hold off until then.  So I guess that upgrade will be less evasive then if i did it now?
[16:04] <MonkeyDust> GeeMac  in the mean time, find space to backup
[16:05] <GeeMac> Yep no kidden....  Thanks MonkeyDust
[16:06] <user__> Yo
[16:06] <Nameless> Uhh, i got this Windows FTP thing...
[16:06] <GeeMac> And I guess thanks to Ubotu (not sure if ubotu is a bot or not.   lol
[16:06] <sebastian> hi
[16:06] <Guest24879> And i simply tired of all the crap on it
[16:07] <Guest24879> lol
[16:07] <sebastian> whats up
[16:07] <Guest24879> what Linux Distro should i use to host it?
[16:07] <Oldcpv3> I`m trying out Debian GNOME live CD and liked it, but idk
[16:15] <TGVoid> Is there a way to speed up DDrescue? I was going at 50 MB/s, but now it's going at 1 MB every 7 seconds.
[16:16] <Habbie> it probably has a reason
[16:16] <Habbie> i presume your disk is broken in some way?
[16:16] <Habbie> if not, just use dd :)
[16:16] <TGVoid> Habbie: My drive has corrupted data
[16:17] <TGVoid> Habbie: Yesterday it was 50 times faster than it is now
[16:20] <TGVoid> Habbie: Does it go faster when I'm not using anything else? I
[16:23] <luq> hello, hola olá
[16:23] <luq> someone here?
[16:23] <luq> alguém aqui?
[16:23] <luq> ...
[16:23] <MonkeyDust> !br
[16:24] <luq> ?join #ubuntu-br
[16:25] <luq> tutz tutz
[16:25] <luq> quero ver
[16:33] <Inferus> BluesKaj: tried that whole guide, nothing
[16:34] <solarguy> Hey guys, I am getting the following error while I use apt-get update. How do I fix this? (http://postimg.org/delete/n4a44lcgw/)
[16:35] <solarguy> Hey guys, I am getting the following error while I use apt-get update. How do I fix this? (http://postimg.org/delete/n4a44lcgw/), I am using Ubuntu 14.10
[16:36] <guyk> What is the error?
[16:36] <Bashing-om> !15.10 | solarguy
[16:36] <Bashing-om> !15.04 | solarguy
[16:37] <TGVoid> Does Firefox slow down ddrescue on a LIve USB?
[16:37] <solarguy> @ubottu, Should I upgrade to make sure the error goes? Anything wrong with Ubuntu 14.10
[16:37] <ducasse> solarguy: 14.10 is long since dead.
[16:37] <Bashing-om> !14.10 | solarguy
[16:37] <BluesKaj> Inferus, sudo apt install --reinstall alsa-base alsa-utils
[16:38] <Bashing-om> solarguy: I get it right here directly .. yeah .. 14.10 ( utopic) is EOL .. and long hard road to release upgrade . A clean fresh install will be much faster .
[16:44] <OerHeks> TGVoid, yes, don't browse the web while recovering ..
[16:44] <OerHeks> maybe that is why you get 1mb speeds :-D
[16:45] <TGVoid> OerHeks: WIll do. Thanks, and see you later! (I'm on IRC with Firefox)
[16:47] <Guest81836> good morning, anyone here that can have a look at an ubuntu installer rebuild bug in yaketty?
[16:48] <Bashing-om> !16.10 | Guest81836
[16:48] <Guest81836> thx will try there..
[16:49] <Bashing-om> Guest81836: :) those who would know are there .
[16:49] <C_minus> Anybody familiar with the workings of lm-sensors? It report the RPM of "fan2" but there's no "fan1". Despite the fact that my laptop has 2 fans. (Background: one of my fans is noisy and I've been trying to monitor temp, RPM etc.)
[16:51] <MonkeyDust> C_minus  pastebin the output of    sensors
[16:52] <C_minus> Here ya go MonkeyDust http://paste.ubuntu.com/16812529/ P.S. if anybody else has a Dell M3800, I'd be interested to see the output of your lm-sensors.
[16:53] <C_minus> MonkeyDust P.S. same deal when I use PSensor (although I'm not sure if that uses lm-sensors as a back end)
[16:58] <nkowdley1> Is there anyone here who can help me with a driver issue?
[16:59] <nkowdley1> Occasionally I will get "[ 8934.081185] alx 0000:09:00.0 enp9s0: fatal interrupt 0x4019607, resetting" constantly spammed in my dmesg output and One of my CPU cores(according to htop) shoots up to 100%.  Has anyone seen this before?
[17:02] <OerHeks> nkowdley1, sure, browsers with flash that crash can do such overloads
[17:02] <OerHeks> you would see that too in the process list
[17:03] <nkowdley1> OerHeks: I thought alx was the ethernet driver.  Can you explain what is going on here?
[17:04] <nkowdley1> OerHeks: top just shows a kworker getting stuck at 100%
[17:04] <OerHeks> oh, hard to say what actually is going on
[17:04] <nkowdley1> OerHeks: Then how did you know it was flash?
[17:04] <Yuri4_> Guys, is there a way to install quick and easy WordPress + LAMP + phpmyadmin on a server?
[17:05] <nkowdley1> OerHeks: This issue has been bugging me for a while
[17:05] <BluesKaj> nkowdley1, system monitor should show the processes in detail
[17:06] <OerHeks>  ps aux > file.txt
[17:06] <OerHeks> kworker .. you can disable that cpuhog if you don't *need* it
[17:07] <BluesKaj> OerHeks, does ctl+escape launch system monitor on unity/gnome?
[17:07] <Cyber_Akuma-Tmp2> Does ubuntu treat searching for "*.dmg" the same way windows would, looking for all files with that extension?
[17:07] <MonkeyDust> Cyber_Akuma-Tmp2  yes, with the 'find' command
[17:07] <nkowdley1> BluesKaj: System Monitor keeps crashing when I try to switch to the resources tab
[17:08] <Cyber_Akuma-Tmp2> MonkeyDust: What about through the file manager?
[17:10] <nkowdley1> OerHeks: I am looking through the output, and I still only see kworkers...is there something else I should be looking at here?
[17:10] <OerHeks> BluesKaj, crl+q i think
[17:10] <OerHeks> nkowdley1, if you search for kworker issues, there are many complaints
[17:10] <OerHeks> try to disable it and see it something else happens
[17:10] <solvey> hey, I am having an issue with Ubuntu not detecting the hdd, the only real information one can find is this dmesg snippet, http://pastie.org/private/skcmdu4ws6inzlpmi2q3yw
[17:11] <nkowdley1> OerHeks: just kill the kworker by pid then?
[17:11] <solvey> the hdd in question used to be in a WD myBook live, just threw it in the server but simply cannot use it
[17:11] <MonkeyDust> Cyber_Akuma-Tmp2  frankly, havent followed, what was your initial question
[17:11] <EriC^^> nkowdley1: you have to disable an interrupt sometimes
[17:11] <SonikkuAmerica> BluesKaj - can't say I didn't see that coming...
[17:11] <Cyber_Akuma-Tmp2> I need to find any files with that extension in the windows folder of a windows drive, not sure how to do that in ubuntu
[17:12] <OerHeks> nkowdley1, no, that will respawn .. maybe ask in #kubuntu for details howto disable kworker
[17:12] <BluesKaj> SonikkuAmerica,  yeah I should have known
[17:12] <nkowdley1> EriC^^:How do I know which interupt to disable?
[17:12] <EriC^^> nkowdley1: try grep . -r /sys/firmware/acpi/interrupts
[17:13] <BluesKaj> SonikkuAmerica, as you know I'm not real familiar with the unity /gnome stuff
[17:13] <MonkeyDust> Cyber_Akuma-Tmp2  use the 'find' command to get the job done quickly
[17:13] <nkowdley1> EriC^^:Am I looking for the one with the large number next to it?
[17:13] <EriC^^> nkowdley1: look for a very high value yeah
[17:13] <Bashing-om> solvey: " link online but 1 devices misclassified,  /etc/fstab bad entry ??
[17:13] <SonikkuAmerica> BluesKaj - aye, Mr
[17:13] <SonikkuAmerica> *Mr. KDE
[17:13] <Cyber_Akuma-Tmp2> I am not sure how to point find to the windows drive/folder
[17:14] <MonkeyDust> Cyber_Akuma-Tmp2  pastebin the output of    mount
[17:14] <nkowdley1> EriC^^: I see 3 interupts with 200+ /sys/firmware/acpi/interrupts/gpe_all:     266
[17:14] <EriC^^> nkowdley1: that's nothing, must be something else
[17:14] <Cyber_Akuma-Tmp2> Do I need to run that as sudo?
[17:14] <solvey> Bashing-om, no thats not it, it doesnt event recognize it as /dev/, its literally only present in dmesg
[17:15] <MonkeyDust> Cyber_Akuma-Tmp2  no
[17:15] <nkowdley1> EriC^^: /sys/firmware/acpi/interrupts/gpe17:     209   enabled ?
[17:15] <solvey> no /dev/ exists, so nothing one could possibly mount
[17:15] <EriC^^> nkowdley1: nope, like 1million would be more like it
[17:15] <nkowdley1> EriC^^: Or this one? /sys/firmware/acpi/interrupts/sci:     209
[17:15] <nkowdley1> EriC^^: None of  them are that high
[17:15] <Cyber_Akuma-Tmp2> ok..... waiting for terminal to start up, sure is taking a while
[17:15] <EriC^^> nkowdley1: must be another bug
[17:16] <MonkeyDust> Cyber_Akuma-Tmp2  ctrl-alt t
[17:16] <nkowdley1> EriC^^: it is a very strange bug.  If I kill network-manager it will completely lock up my computer forcing me to pull the power
[17:16] <nkowdley1> EriC^^: Also it slows my internet down considerably
[17:17] <EriC^^> nkowdley1: try a different kernel maybe
[17:17] <Cyber_Akuma-Tmp2> thanks
[17:17] <Bashing-om> solvey: Does bios see the drive ? does ' sudo parted -l ' see it ?
[17:17] <nkowdley1> EriC^^: I have tried many kernels from 3.10-4.6.0
[17:17] <nkowdley1> EriC^^:  Do you know how I would disable the alx driver?  Maybe that would be a short-term prevention strategy
[17:17] <EriC^^> nkowdley1: sorry, no idea
[17:17] <Cyber_Akuma-Tmp2> MonksyDust: http://pastebin.com/nmp9Vqmk
[17:18] <solvey> oh parted I didnt try, let me give it a shot, was only checking with fdisk Bashing-om brb :)
[17:19] <Cyber_Akuma-Tmp2> The windows drive has the label "System"
[17:19] <nkowdley1> Does anyone else here know how I can disable a driver on boot, but be able to renable it later on?
[17:19] <nkowdley1> using modprobe or something
[17:20] <MonkeyDust> Cyber_Akuma-Tmp2  i wonder... my gvfs is mounted on /run/user/1000/ ... yours is 999
[17:20] <Cyber_Akuma-Tmp2> I am running ubuntu off a liveusb with a 4gb persistant file
[17:20] <Cyber_Akuma-Tmp2> Dunno if that helps
[17:23] <MonkeyDust> Cyber_Akuma-Tmp2  pastebin the output of    lsblk  (without sudo)
[17:25] <Cyber_Akuma-Tmp2> Wow, that's a lot more readable than the output of mount
[17:25] <Cyber_Akuma-Tmp2> http://pastebin.com/0LmYraZC
[17:26] <Cyber_Akuma-Tmp2> Oh right, sorry, forgot to tell you, System is a raid0
[17:26] <Cyber_Akuma-Tmp2> Though I thought the os would not see the raid if it's setup by the motherboard
[17:26] <MonkeyDust> Cyber_Akuma-Tmp2  yes, and i'm not very familiar with raid
[17:28] <Cyber_Akuma-Tmp2> Hmm.... I think the mountpoint for it is /media/ubuntu/System
[17:29] <Cyber_Akuma-Tmp2> So then would I type "find /media/ubuntu/System/Windows *.dmp" to search in windows and subfolders?
[17:29] <MonkeyDust> Cyber_Akuma-Tmp2  in a terminal, type     find /media/ubuntu/System -name "*.blah" -exec ls -l {} \;
[17:29] <Cyber_Akuma-Tmp2> What is that part after blah for?
[17:30] <MonkeyDust> Cyber_Akuma-Tmp2  blah is the file extension you're looking for
[17:30] <Cyber_Akuma-Tmp2> I know, I meant the exec stuff after it
[17:31] <MonkeyDust> Cyber_Akuma-Tmp2  -exec ls -l    lists the files it found (ls is the equivalent of dir in windows)
[17:31] <MonkeyDust> or dos, rather, for those who are old enough
[17:33] <gotcha5832> hi
[17:33] <Cyber_Akuma-Tmp2> Thanks..... hmm.... coulden't find the files I need, argh, where are they..... I am starting to wonder if they got deleted somehow
[17:34] <gotcha5832> is there some people who know opcache
[17:34] <MonkeyDust> Cyber_Akuma-Tmp2  test the syntax with an extension you know is there
[17:34] <Cyber_Akuma-Tmp2> It did find several files, just that none of them were the ones I wanted
[17:34] <EriC^^> Cyber_Akuma-Tmp2: check your history for a mishap i guess
[17:35] <Cyber_Akuma-Tmp2> My history?
[17:35] <EriC^^> Cyber_Akuma-Tmp2: if they're huge files then use find -size +1G to search for 1g files
[17:35] <EriC^^> Cyber_Akuma-Tmp2: yeah, type history
[17:35] <Cyber_Akuma-Tmp2> They are files on a windows partition I am searching for
[17:36] <EriC^^> how big
[17:36] <Cyber_Akuma-Tmp2> Under a meg I think
[17:36] <solvey> Bashing-om: parted doesnt list it either
[17:36] <EriC^^> do you remember anything that was in the text of them?
[17:36] <Cyber_Akuma-Tmp2> Nothing unique
[17:37] <EriC^^> what command are you using to search
[17:37] <Cyber_Akuma-Tmp2> I know they would be extension .dmp
[17:37] <Cyber_Akuma-Tmp2> find /media/ubuntu/System/Windows -name "*.dmp" -exec ls -l {} \;
[17:38] <EriC^^> try with -iname instead of -name
[17:38] <EriC^^> you sure they're in the system files? they're core dumps or something?
[17:38] <Bashing-om> solvey: If bios also does not see it .. a cable loose ? .. sata controller ? - maybe change the sata port ?
[17:39] <Cyber_Akuma-Tmp2> Yeah, dumps, windows kept bluescreening yesterday and I managed to view one of them so I know they are there, but I can't find them when I am trying to use a ubuntu livecd to view them
[17:40] <Cyber_Akuma-Tmp2> Still can't find them.... I am starting to question if I hallucinated the files...
[17:40] <EriC^^> Cyber_Akuma-Tmp2: maybe it was another dir they were in?
[17:40] <Cyber_Akuma-Tmp2> Would it mess up my permissions if I ran the search on the whoel drive?
[17:40] <EriC^^> go back a couple dirs and search the whole thing
[17:40] <EriC^^> no
[17:41] <Cyber_Akuma-Tmp2> Ok, i'll search the whole drive then
[17:41] <EriC^^> Cyber_Akuma-Tmp2: try "*.dmp*" maybe too
[17:42] <Cyber_Akuma-Tmp2> Oh, can I limit it to files made in the last 3 or so days?
[17:42] <EriC^^> Cyber_Akuma-Tmp2: yeah
[17:43] <Cyber_Akuma-Tmp2> How do I do that?
[17:43] <EriC^^> find -ctime 3 i think
[17:44] <solvey> yeah bios next Bashing-om
[17:44] <Cyber_Akuma-Tmp2> so I would put the -ctime before the --iname right?
[17:44] <dgadd523> Shouldn't my root password be the same as my sudo password on Ubuntu 16.04
[17:44] <Cyber_Akuma-Tmp2> or after?
[17:44] <EriC^^> Cyber_Akuma-Tmp2: find -ctime -3
[17:44] <EriC^^> Cyber_Akuma-Tmp2: yeah
[17:45] <Cyber_Akuma-Tmp2> wiat, -3 or 3?
[17:45] <EriC^^> Cyber_Akuma-Tmp2: i'm not sure it will be faster that way, -3
[17:45] <hastiko> Can someone help me with this? https://askubuntu.com/questions/778897/odd-symbol-showing-up-in-file-names-xubuntu-16-04
[17:45] <MonkeyDust> for those who are eager to help other ubuntu users : https://dl.dropboxusercontent.com/u/4653463/Ubuntu%20Linux%20Toolbox.pdf
[17:45] <EriC^^> hastiko: do you have encryption?
[17:45] <hastiko> After two days of struggles with Xubuntu I am about to explode.
[17:46] <EriC^^> hastiko: nevermind
[17:46] <hastiko> EriC: No....not on Xubuntu or the OSX machine
[17:47] <OerHeks> MonkeyDust, it costs £19.99 / €27.30
[17:47] <Cyber_Akuma> Coulden't find them :( guess they aren't here
[17:48] <dgadd523> Hello, newbie question.  Shouldn't root password be the one given when I installed Ubuntu 16.04
[17:48] <OerHeks> dgadd523, yes the 1st user created during install has root priv
[17:48] <EriC^^> dgadd523: nope, the user gets sudo
[17:49] <dgadd523> So if I can't log into root with su and that password I may have a problem?
[17:49] <Myrtti_> no
[17:49] <Cyber_Akuma> Thanks for the help, guess I am going to have to try to see if I can find out what happened in windows and hope I get lucky with it not BSODing on me instantly
[17:50] <EriC^^> Cyber_Akuma: it says it should be in some Minidump dir
[17:50] <Myrtti_> use sudo before the command(s) you want to run as sudo, dgadd523
[17:50] <dgadd523> OK thanks
[17:50] <EriC^^> Cyber_Akuma: C:\Windows\Minidump\*.dmp
[17:50] <Cyber_Akuma> Eeic^^: Yeah, all the dumps there are from 2014 >.<
[17:50] <Cyber_Akuma> I wish hexchat had tab complete...
[17:51] <solvey> Bashing-om: well yeah the bios does not recognize it either
[17:51] <solvey> so I guess that one is dead :D
[17:51] <solvey> thanks anyway
[17:52] <Bashing-om> solvey: Maybe yes, maybe not so yes, dead .. swap out the cables with known good ones .
[17:53] <solvey> already did, still unrecognized
[17:53] <Bashing-om> solvey: Obvious next thing is stick in a known good drive on that cable .
[17:55] <skweek> can someone help me fix evince?
[17:55] <solvey> already did that too Bashing-om and it was recognized
[17:55] <skweek> evince crashed with SIGSEGV in cmsGetColorSpace()
[17:56] <Bashing-om> solvey: :( .. welp so much for that drive .. none last for ever .
[17:56] <solvey> I was thinking that maybe, since it was a external HDD, the vendor did some fuckery to it and blocked it from being able to mount it
[17:56] <MonkeyDust> OerHeks  what, the book?
[17:57] <solvey> like.. I had a similar issue with an external USB drive, the vendor did some weird FS manipulation so I was only able to mount it with the the vendors usb adapter
[17:57] <solvey> but in this case I guess its just dead
[17:57] <solvey> thanks anyway Bashing-om  :)
[17:57] <skweek> why does my evince keep on crashing saying segment fault??
[17:57] <Cyber_Akuma> Ok, before I try to reboot into windows, there is one more thing I want to try, though it involves installing an app from a .tar.gz file..... how would I do that?
[17:57] <Cyber_Akuma> It's also going to ask me for my login name and password.... what would the default be for a ubuntu liveusb?
[17:57] <Bashing-om> solvey: Hey, all I did was hold your hand .
[18:00] <mooasaurus> I have a nvidia hybrid chipset in my laptop, when I enable vsync on the intel chip by adding in a configuration in xorg.conf.d/00-intel.conf for the tearfree option, whenever I use prime-select to switch from the Intel chip to Nvidia, something gets confused (thinking gpu-manager) and results in a instance of xorg that is nothing but a blank screen. is there a way I can add xorg options for the intel chip but to have that option ignor
[18:01] <skweek> anyone? http://paste.ubuntu.com/16815562/
[18:02] <Conder> hello, does ubuntu installer create EFI partition if i choose "erease disk and install ubuntu"?
[18:02] <FrankJor> So another n00b question...good and userfriendly bind9 alternative (primarily for dns caching)
[18:03] <Cyber_Akuma> Installing video drivers is going to kick me out of the GUI in Ubuntu isn't it?
[18:03] <Cyber_Akuma> Or require me to restart it?
[18:03] <FrankJor> Several to choose from, but most of the google links and article links leads to rather old software.
[18:07] <Lasivian> How do I get the name of the machine to translate to it's IP on other machines on my LAN? (What's this called at least so I can google it? lol) thanks
[18:07] <verbalhoodz> hello, can someone tell me why the ubuntu open-iscsi package does not include the iscsiuio binary. this binary is required to offload the iscsi traffic to a bnx2i card.
[18:07] <Ace> Lasivian: you wnat you internal ip?
[18:08] <Lasivian> Ace: My existing machines can be reached by name, the new one cannot. I'm guessing I have to do something to tell all the other machines on the LAN
[18:08] <skweek> can anyone help me troubleshoot a package that seg faults?
[18:08] <dede> on xfce the screen just disappeared: I cancelled the extraction of a .rar file and the screen went down
[18:09] <dede> im now in tty6 and logged in. what do I do?
[18:09] <dede> this is another computer
[18:09] <FrankJor> Or at least, how do you get an invite to the ubuntu beginners channel?
[18:10] <Lasivian> FrankJor: I think I should be there too, lol
[18:10] <reisio> dede: CTRL+ALT+F7
[18:11] <dede> reisio: why do I want that? that will turn me back to tty7, where I cannot use anything, gui disappeared
[18:11] <skweek> evince is just the regular pdf viewer and reader that runs on ubuntu, i'm not sure why but today I went to open it and it just crashes, here's the tail end of the crash log if anyone has any tips http://paste.ubuntu.com/16815562/
[18:11] <skweek> I tried reinstalling the package, and deleting the config file
[18:12] <reisio> dede: if you're sure; is it black?
[18:12] <FrankJor> Lasivian: Yeah, I get the steep learning curve, but at some more precise information here and there would be nice :)
[18:12] <dede> what is black? tty7? yes
[18:13] <reisio> dede: try service lightdm stop; service lightdm start
[18:14] <Lasivian> FrankJor: It's a dead channel apparently. https://wiki.ubuntu.com/BeginnersTeam/IRC
[18:15] <huuygt77> check out my online password generator: http://pw.2fh.co
[18:15] <dede> that didnt do anything in tty7 reisio
[18:16] <dede> only thing to see on ttyt is the mouse
[18:16] <dede> tty7*
[18:16] <Cyber_Akuma> I would need something for those not even advanced enough to be a beginner XD
[18:16] <reisio> dede: sometimes the number changes, but if you started lightdm you'd probably be transported there
[18:16] <Lasivian> huuygt77: bad link
[18:16] <reisio> dede: this is ordinary Ubuntu?
[18:16] <huuygt77> what do u mean
[18:16] <huuygt77> try reloading
[18:17] <huuygt77> sometimes it needs that
[18:17] <huuygt77> dont know why
[18:17] <OerHeks> Adguard has blocked access to this page
[18:17] <OerHeks> This web page at pw.2fh.co, has been reported as a phishing page
[18:17] <huuygt77> its not
[18:17] <huuygt77> its a pass generator not a phish
[18:17] <OerHeks> huuygt77, please don't spam vulnerabilitys
[18:17] <huuygt77> it generates them not takes tmem
[18:17] <huuygt77> them*
[18:18] <dede> unable to connect to restart < thats what sudo restart lightdm outputs
[18:18] <dede> this is xubuntu reisio
[18:18] <dede> 16.04
[18:18] <Lasivian> huuygt77: Either way, not the right place for that.
[18:18] <OerHeks> huuygt77, the site is bad, whatever your code might be.
[18:18] <huuygt77> ok ok
[18:18] <\9> huuygt77: do you actually have a support question, or are you here just spam your shady web page?
[18:18] <huuygt77> sorry
[18:18] <huuygt77> i just made it
[18:19] <OerHeks> goto github, huuygt77
[18:19] <Yuri4_> What would be the best GUI tool to manage linux servers without GUI trough ssh?
[18:19] <Yuri4_> tool for windows*
[18:19] <huuygt77> mabe someone reported all 2fh.co sites as phishes
[18:19] <huuygt77> bye
[18:20] <Lasivian> there is 2 minutes of my life I will never get back :P
[18:20] <Cyber_Akuma> I just installed a propitery video driver to replace the open source one, I am guessing I need to kill and restart x server to use it?
[18:20] <yellabs-r2> most of the time i used create startupdisk to make live usb ubuntu, but it broken ( syslinux seems not alright )
[18:20] <yellabs-r2> i then use unetbootin
[18:21] <yellabs-r2> are there other simular tools to make live usb ?
[18:21] <yellabs-r2> that work .. ;)
[18:21] <Cyber_Akuma> For windows or for linux?
[18:21] <yellabs-r2> ubuntu
[18:21] <yellabs-r2> 16.04
[18:21] <Bashing-om> dede: Ehat results id ya start the Wondows Manafer from terminal ? ' xfwm4 ' .
[18:21] <Cyber_Akuma> No, I mean, the tool itself, do you need it to run on windows or linux?
[18:22] <Yuri4_> I need to run it on windows :)
[18:22] <Yuri4_> To connect to ubuntu server without gui
[18:22] <FrankJor> landscape?
[18:22] <squinty> dede,   sudo service lightdm restart
[18:22] <Cyber_Akuma> There is rufus and Universal Usb Installer, the latter lets you set up a persistant storage on the usb drive
[18:23] <yellabs-r2> for me, its a linux version i am looking for..
[18:23] <OerHeks> dd the iso; sync
[18:23] <yellabs-r2> OerHeks, dd , is it bootable then with dd ?
[18:23] <g0th> hi
[18:24] <yellabs-r2> never tried it that way
[18:24] <g0th> my sound is no longer working after a reboot
[18:24] <OerHeks> yellabs-r2, sure, the ubuntu iso's are hybrid
[18:24] <g0th> also my "*" key on the keyboard is no longer working
[18:24] <g0th> any ideas?
[18:24] <Cyber_Akuma> Then how did you type that?
[18:24] <Cyber_Akuma> XD
[18:25] <OerHeks> sudo dd  if=/path/to/.iso of=/dev/sd[x] bs=4M
[18:25] <akik> Cyber_Akuma: man ascii, copy & paste
[18:25] <g0th> I used they keypad
[18:26] <OerHeks> yellabs-r2, and don forget 'sync' after that
[18:26] <lerner> has somebody here been helping an user whose's x server crashed?
[18:26] <reisio> lerner: probably someone
[18:27] <Cyber_Akuma> Once I choose the nvidia propitery drivers over the open source ones in the "additional drivers" tab of "software and updates" does that install them once I click apply changes... or does it just change my repos and then I have to install them myself?
[18:28] <OerHeks> Cyber_Akuma, "additional drivers" tab and "software and updates" are the same tool
[18:28] <OerHeks> it will download and install the driver, also the place to be to roll back
[18:29] <Cyber_Akuma> Ok, so then do I need to restart the xserver once it's installed to start using it?
[18:30] <OerHeks> with nvidia, no.
[18:30] <OerHeks> it will do that automatic, no user action needed AFAIK
[18:33] <Cyber_Akuma> Cool, is there any way I can test it to see if it's rendering with the new drivers?
[18:39] <phaser1> can somebody plzz give me the link to the ubuntu-sdk source files? cant fine it
[18:40] <reisio> Cyber_Akuma: service lightdm restart
[18:41] <Cyber_Akuma> reisio: Do I need to do that to start using the drivers?
[18:42] <BluesKaj> Cyber_Akuma,  lspci -nnk | grep -i vga -A3 | grep 'in use'
[18:42] <reisio> Cyber_Akuma: basically, yup
[18:43] <BluesKaj> Cyber_Akuma, to makesure the driver restarts, reboot
[18:43] <reisio> you shouldn't need to reboot
[18:43] <Cyber_Akuma> Well, copying some files for now, so I will restart the x server after this
[18:44] <Inferus> BluesKaj: here's an interesting update for you, i've connected my bluetooth speaker to the pc and audio is outputting through that
[18:44] <yellabs-r2> thanks OerHeks, it did indeed work as you said
[18:45] <Cyber_Akuma> Should have used a USB 3.0 flashdrive, ubuntu is REALLY laggy on a usb...
[18:45] <skweek> evince is just the regular pdf viewer and reader that runs on ubuntu, i'm not sure why but today I went to open it and it just crashes, here's the tail end of the crash log if anyone has any tips http://paste.ubuntu.com/16815562/  I tried reinstalling the package, and deleting the config file
[18:45] <Cyber_Akuma> ... not sure if I even have a usb 3.0 flashdrive
[18:46] <reisio> Cyber_Akuma: might try using tune2fs to disable the journal
[18:46] <Borat> hello?
[18:46] <reisio> 'lo borat
[18:47] <BluesKaj> reisio,  afaik the restrart is need to blacklist the nouveau driver after the propietary driver is installed
[18:47] <BluesKaj> needed
[18:47] <phaser1> :skweek And?
[18:49] <skweek> phaser1: it crashes with those seg fault errors
[18:50] <skweek> I was hoping someone could help me troubleshoot it if anyone has any knowledge
[18:50] <Borat> Trump for preisdent
[18:50] <ioria> https://bugs.launchpad.net/ubuntu/+source/cairo/+bug/1404715
[18:50] <Borat> Make America Great Again!
[18:51] <Borat> Does someone know how I could connect a school email account to thunderbird?
[18:52] <Borat> It is under 123456789@schoolboard.gapps.com
[18:52] <Hydr0p0nX> udev doesn't appear to be picking up a UDF dvd being inserted, which is preventing automount from triggering, Ubuntu 14.04.4  with kernel 4.2.0-36-generic #42~14.04.1-Ubuntu. Are there any logs I can look at to see what's happening?
[18:57] <Amm0n> Hydr0p0nX, you could try dmesg -w and insert the dvd
[19:00] <Hydr0p0nX> Amm0n, -w doesn't appear to be valid for dmesg
[19:00] <Amm0n> dmesg --follow?
[19:01] <skweek> doesn't look relevant ioria, the activity log says that a patch was applied on 1.4.1 and a fix released already
[19:01] <Amm0n> should be available since kernel 3.something
[19:02] <ioria> skweek, ubottu says  [Unknown,New], not fix released although
[19:04] <Hydr0p0nX> Amm0on, it looks like that was updated in 14.10 to support follow I can emulate it though
[19:06] <Hydr0p0nX> Amm0n, nothing in dmesg for it, and udevadm monitor only shows the eject action - "KERNEL[9911.964804] change   /devices/pci0000:00/0000:00:07.0/0000:03:00.0/ata8/host7/target7:0:0/7:0:0:0/block/sr0 (block)
[19:08] <Amm0n> Hydr0p0nX, try again with: tail -f /var/log/{messages,kernel,dmesg,syslog}
[19:08] <ioria> skweek, are you updated ?
[19:10] <skweek> yes
[19:13] <mindofmateo1> My wife tried to sign in to ubuntu and numbers lock was off. She uses the 10 for some reason to type numbers, so when she pressed enter it submitted the wrong password.  This happened one time.  Now the log in screen is frozen.  We don't want to reboot and lose what we were working on, but it doesn't look like I can even ssh into this computer.  Is
[19:13] <mindofmateo1>  there any way to unlock it?  I even tried plugging in another mouse, and it doesn't appear to take any kind of user input.  I pressed Ctrl + Alt + F2 to go into text mode and the mouse cursor disappeared but it still doesn't respond.
[19:13] <ioria> skweek, you did a do-release-upgrade from wily ?
[19:14] <Amm0n> Hydr0p0nX, you already tried this one: http://ubuntuforums.org/showthread.php?t=1658827  ?
[19:14] <tikun> what's the typical maximum throughput of the SFTP protocol?
[19:17] <skweek> If I recall correctly I did a upgrade from 15.10 to 16.04 when 16.04 was released last month, or earlier this month, and the night before last installed some gnome related packages
[19:18] <ioria> skweek,  apt-cache policy evince
[19:19] <Cyber_Akuma> Is there any way I can perform some kind of MD5 or CRC check or something to make sure some files copied correctly?
[19:19] <skweek> http://paste.ubuntu.com/16817668/ what's helpful from this?
[19:20] <ioria> skweek,  nothing
[19:20] <skweek> what were you looking for?
[19:20] <ioria> skweek,  to check if the ver matches xenial ver
[19:22] <ioria> skweek,  have you tried another pdf reader ?
[19:22] <meh__> i've modified  a program from repositories
[19:22] <LeoDaVinci> im having trouble getting xubuntu to start from a bootable usb. i have the correct iso on it and used lili to make it live. i have a hp laptop. i went into the bios and turned legacy support on and switched the usb to the top. also went into the boot options but my usb didnt show up. i used all usb ports aswell.
[19:22] <meh__> first i've downloaded with apt-get source
[19:22] <skweek> http://paste.ubuntu.com/16817750/ from /var/lib/dpkg/status
[19:22] <meh__> and   afer i putted my patches into /debian/patches
[19:22] <meh__> and i have some questions
[19:23] <meh__> need i modifiy the rules file?,  this package had some patches from ubuntu's devs
[19:23] <skweek> ya, i'm actually kind of wanting to put this issue on the backburner and get to what I was working on using an alternative qpdfview
[19:23] <meh__> 2 hoy can i regenerate the tar.xz files?
[19:23] <meh__> orig.tar.xz and debian.tar.xz
[19:24] <ioria> skweek,  apt-cache policy evince-common
[19:24] <meh__> for compline into launchpad
[19:24] <skweek> http://paste.ubuntu.com/16817789/ from apt-cache policy evince-common
[19:25] <Hydr0p0nX> Amm0n: I ejected twice, logs are at http://paste.ubuntu.com/16817786/ looks like it's trying to mount on eject instead of insert
[19:25] <ioria> skweek,  it's ok
[19:27] <deduped>  did a 16.04 server minimal install on win 10 in virtual box, anyone know how to get a local ip?
[19:28] <Hydr0p0nX> deduped, change your network card to bridged instead of NAT in the vm settings in virtualbox
[19:28] <ioria> skweek,  when you start evince from cli you got this http://paste.ubuntu.com/16815562/ ?
[19:28] <deduped> cool tks hydro
[19:28] <OerHeks> https://help.ubuntu.com/lts/serverguide/network-configuration.html
[19:29] <squinty> skweek, fwiw, just found out a couple of days ago there is a linux foxit version   https://www.foxitsoftware.com/products/pdf-reader/
[19:29] <Amm0n> Hydr0p0nX, are you able to mount it manual?
[19:30] <Hydr0p0nX> Amm0n, yes, manual mounting works
[19:30] <Amm0n> Hydr0p0nX, and did you see the link i pasted?
[19:31] <Amm0n> maybe it's a bug with udisks
[19:32] <Hydr0p0nX> Amm0n, I've tried something similar, basically just included cdfs in the fstab along with the rest of those values, I try that one exactly though
[19:34] <ioria> skweek, remove evince-gtk
[19:34] <ioria> skweek, there's a conflict
[19:36] <ioria> skweek,  apt-cache show evince | grep Conflicts
[19:38] <nomic> z.z..z
[19:39] <tecnico> Hello
[19:39] <tecnico> I have a problem with an encrypted /usr partition on Ubuntu 16.04
[19:39] <Cyber_Akuma> Is there any way I can verify that a bunch of files copied successfully?
[19:40] <tecnico> Does anyone have such a layout?
[19:40] <tecnico> Ubuntu 15.10 used to boot all right.
[19:40] <tecnico> 16.04 instead drops me to initramd's shell.
[19:41] <Fuchs> Cyber_Akuma: md5 sums, before and after
[19:41] <tecnico> There, I have to type:
[19:41] <OerHeks> !info diff
[19:41] <OerHeks> oh
[19:41] <Fuchs> Cyber_Akuma: programs like rsync should do that automatically
[19:42] <tecnico> cryptsetup --key-file /root/etc/usr_key open --luks /dev/sda3 ubuntu-usr
[19:42] <tecnico> then I can exit the shell and the system boots.
[19:42] <tecnico> Does anyone have an encrypted /usr on a separate partition?
[19:43] <tecnico> I guess it's an initramdisk issue.
[19:43] <tecnico> The initramd does not have /etc/crypttab, I expected that file to be there
[19:44] <tecnico> How can I force the initramd to have it?
[19:44] <user2635> Does anyone use moscz?
[19:47] <Dagda> Hey. I have an issue related to changing to nvidia proprietary drivers using software update, but I'm having no success with the usual fixes i.e. purging nvidia and reinstalling nvidia-current or nvidia-352 (running a 980GTX). I have to drop to root to get past crypt-setup. Then, once I get to login, I get caught in a loop (xorg crashing?). Can anyone help?
[19:50] <Cyber_Akuma> Fuchs: rsync? Is that in the repos?
[19:51] <Fuchs> Cyber_Akuma: yes. What is your usecase, though?
[19:51] <Bashing-om> Dagda: Nvidia recommends the 361 driver .. gamers advise better performance with the 364 version , what release are you running ? PPA time ?
[19:51] <Cyber_Akuma> I just want to make sure these files I copied to an external drive for backup purposes copied successfully, because ubuntu has been lagging and crashing a lot of apps since I am on a liveusb
[19:52] <tanrax> hi
[19:54] <Dagda> 16.04 - I'm installing 361 now, will update you shortly
[19:54] <Cyber_Akuma> Would rsync work for having copies the files after installing it?
[19:55] <Cyber_Akuma> copied*
[19:55] <Cyber_Akuma> I just want to test the target and source, not set up some type of sync
[19:55] <Bashing-om> Dagda: K .. make sure you purge nvidia* and ans well remove the old /etc/X11/xorg.conf file .
[19:56] <deduped> ubuntu 16.04 ubuntu min install in virtual box on win 10, network settings 'Bridged Adapter'-- changed ip addr to 192.168.1.100 and cant ssh in?
[19:57] <Cyber_Akuma> Fuchs: Would it work for just testing files after they have been copied though? Not setting up any type of sync or schedule?
[19:58] <Fuchs> Cyber_Akuma: then you want to compare md5 hashes, as I said
[19:59] <Cyber_Akuma> Can it do that for a whole folder? Or just on a per-file basis?
[19:59] <Fuchs> if it is a lot of files, maybe a diff with frontend (like kdiff3) is easier
[19:59] <Dagda> Bashin-om: I've done both. rebooted. I still have the issue where crypt-setup screen loads but I can't type anything in. I have to boot in recovery mode to be able to enter my key to get past cryptsetup.
[19:59] <Cyber_Akuma> i see
[19:59] <Fuchs> Cyber_Akuma: you could tar the folder and md5 that, or just loop it in a script
[19:59] <Cyber_Akuma> Yeah, it's a few hundred or so, totaling about 650gb
[19:59] <Cyber_Akuma> it's far too big to tar
[20:00] <Cyber_Akuma> so kdiff3 is a frontend for rsync?
[20:01] <Dagda> Bashin-om: I've been able to login now after entering my key in recovery mode, then resuming from the recovery options. I'm not sure what the issue is that's forcing me to use recovery mode to get past cryptsetup every time though. Any ideas?
[20:01] <Cyber_Akuma> Hmm.... I am looking at Gdiff, and I don't see an option to do any sort of checksum of files without copying them first
[20:02] <Dagda> uh oh. I spoke to soon. Unity hasn't loaded. I can see a couple of files saved to my desktop but I have no taskbar.
[20:02] <\9> Cyber_Akuma: kdiff3 only does comparison, it doesn't copy anything
[20:03] <Dagda> short-cuts don't appear to work either, can't load a terminal
[20:04] <Dagda> I can open a shell with ctrl-alt-F* though
[20:04] <\9> Dagda: try ctrl+alt+f1, log in and run DISPLAY=:0 gnome-terminal
[20:05] <Bashing-om> Dagda: Sorry, I have no idea of how to deal with encryption . Do not know how to troubleshoot in that situation . Maybe see if there are any hints in the /var/log/lightdm/lightdm.log  file ?
[20:06] <Cyber_Akuma> kdiff3 seems to be for text files
[20:06] <Dagda> \9: Error constructing proxy for org.gnome.Terminal:/Factory0: Could not connect: Connection refused
[20:06] <Bashing-om> Dagda: /var/log/gdm/gdm.log  ??
[20:07] <Bashing-om> Dagda: Sorry .. unity is lightdm .. so " /var/log/lightdm/lightdm.log " for the lof file .
[20:08] <Cyber_Akuma> \9: kdiff3 seems to be for text files
[20:08] <user2635> Hi there, I just changed my os language
[20:08] <asarch> Any one with the Google Chrome blank page problem?
[20:09] <asarch> *Anyone
[20:09] <user2635> then when I logged back in it asked me whether i wanted to update my user folder names (like Documents, Music etc)
[20:09] <user2635> so I accept
[20:09] <Wipster> hey all, vlc is failing to launch in 16.04 on my 64bit installation, its complaining that xcb is not available then goes on to say its installed in the list, I have checked the library deps with ldd and nothing appears to be missing, I have cleared the vlc settings and cache but nothing and I have tried reinstalling various qt5 plugins to try and catch missing deps. Strace also appears to give a clean library loading
[20:09] <user2635> but it's not really fixed it completely
[20:09] <asarch> I am using Ubuntu 14.04.4 LTS
[20:10] <pradeep> hi
[20:11] <Bashing-om> Dagda: ^ and one can look in X's log file to see that the driver did build : /var/log/Xorg.0.log .
[20:11] <Dagda> Bashing-om: what command do I need to run before invoking that log?
[20:12] <Dagda> sorry for being slow to reply. The script on the shell I'm running is tiny, very hard to see...
[20:14] <Bashing-om> Dagda: just 'cat /<path>/<file> will do nicely as in ' cat /var/log/Xorg.0.log ' can paste it thus ' cat /var/log/Xorg.0.log | pastebinit ' if ya wajnt us to verify .
[20:14] <Dagda> thanks
[20:15] <sebThreeM10white> hi
[20:15] <Bashing-om> Dagda: small fonts... makes me consider what is set in 'nvidia-settings' .
[20:15] <user2635> In nautilus, the side bar there are shortcuts like documents etc
[20:15] <user2635> where are these stored?
[20:15] <user2635> how do I modify them
[20:16] <nedstark> is zfs considered a stable package
[20:16] <sebThreeM10white> user2635 documents etc will be in the home folder
[20:17] <zub> Hi. When a package is not installable (ubuntu-sdk-libs:armhf : Depends: liboxideqt-qmlplugin:armhf but it is not going to be installed) should I report a bug? Against the package that can't be installed?
[20:18] <sebThreeM10white> zub:  that happens sometimes in general packages that cant just be installed for some reason
[20:18] <MonkeyDust> !zfs | nedstark
[20:19] <Bashing-om> !info liboxideqt-qmlplugin
[20:20] <zub> sebThreeM10white: yup, I know. but the bottom line is it's not "bugreport-worthy"?
[20:20] <sebThreeM10white> zub yep probably not bug report worthy
[20:20] <zub> ok, thanks
[20:21] <effectnet> hi how can i tell what dvd this ubuntu is?
[20:21] <zub> the bad thing is I can't install ubuntu sdk arm chroot now
[20:21] <effectnet> hi how can i tell what ubuntu this dvd is?
[20:21] <Bashing-om> zub: ^^  is package oxide-qt installed ?
[20:21] <sebThreeM10white> nedstack zfs is debatel if it should even be in linux distros and for now most people will just use ext 4
[20:21] <effectnet> ubuntu isnt into cloud computing is it?  that stuff is for morons
[20:22] <mindofmateo> I have a laptop and a desktop that won't ssh with each other.  I get the error "port 22: Connection refused" from both, however both of them can ssh into my raspberry pi.  Does anyone know what's going on there?
[20:22] <effectnet> i mean, it's unsafe and others see your data, etc...
[20:23] <sebThreeM10white> !md5sum eeffectnet
[20:23] <vanhalen> mindofmateo: try shh'ing locally in each to see if the ssh daemon is running at all
[20:23] <zub> Bashing-om: I don't even see oxide-qt package
[20:23] <zub> # dpkg-query -l oxide-qt\*
[20:23] <zub> dpkg-query: no packages found matching oxide-qt*
[20:24] <vanhalen> zub, maybe it is in contrib
[20:24] <effectnet> !md5sum effectnet
[20:24] <mindofmateo> vanhalen: just so I understand, do you mean ssh into the computer I'm using from itself?
[20:24] <effectnet> thx sebThreeM10white
[20:24] <dewdl> Hi, I've just attempted to install the Arduino IDE but it seems to not be working, I'd like to remove it and reinstall. I didnt use the package manager. Im very green to linux. Thank you
[20:24] <zub> well, I get to that by "sudo click chroot -a armhf -f ubuntu-sdk-15.04 create"
[20:24] <effectnet> oh that didn't work
[20:24] <TGVoid> Is there any way to speed up ddrescue? Yesterday it was working at 50 MB/s and now it's running at .05 MB/s
[20:24] <sebThreeM10white> effectnet you can check iso
[20:24] <vanhalen> mindofmateo: yes
[20:24] <sebThreeM10white> !md5sum
[20:24] <effectnet> ah!
[20:24] <effectnet> k
[20:25] <Bashing-om> zub: Well .. the bot says that oxide-qt i the source .. humm .. I do not see it here : http://packages.ubuntu.com/xenial/liboxideqt-qmlplugin . But will not hurt to make sure all the dependencies are met .
[20:25] <mindofmateo> vanhalen: I get the same error message from both, with both "ssh" and "sudo ssh"
[20:25] <Cyber_Akuma> I don't see any option in Grsync to only compare two files without copying them
[20:25] <vanhalen> dewdl: go inside the folder where you compiled it, type sudo make uninstall
[20:26] <vanhalen> mindofmateo: i am guessing sshd isn't running, can you see it in ps?
[20:27] <vanhalen> dewdl: then you can type sudo apt-get install arduino to install from ubuntu repos
[20:27] <mindofmateo> vanhalen: I just see bash and ps
[20:27] <vanhalen> mindofmateo: try ps xa
[20:28] <MonkeyDust> or ps -e
[20:28] <pr3c0g> hey all
[20:29] <dewdl> vanhalen: I ran a .sh file to install it, i ran it in my home dir. Running sudo make uninstall did nothing
[20:29] <vanhalen> dewdl: you need to read that .sh file if you still have it, maybe it can give you a clue what it installed and where. Did you run it as root?
[20:30] <vanhalen> dewdl: why won't you just go ahead and install ubuntu's own aduerdo? it will probably overwrite what you previously installed anyway and everything will work fine
[20:31] <vanhalen> mindofmateo: ps xa | grep sshd
[20:31] <vanhalen> mindofmateo: maybe you haven't even installed sshd, is it installed? apt-get install it
[20:31] <mindofmateo> vanhalen: the last one returns: grep --color=auto sshd
[20:31] <vanhalen> mindofmateo:  so it is not running
[20:32] <vanhalen> mindofmateo: type sudo sshd to see if it exists at all, if not then apt-get install it
[20:32] <mindofmateo> vanhalen: ahh--  sshd: command not found
[20:33] <vanhalen> mindofmateo: you probably need to install it with apt-get
[20:33] <mindofmateo> sudo apt-get install sshd says unable to locate package sshd
[20:34] <vanhalen> mindofmateo: try installing just ssh?
[20:34] <Bashing-om> EriC^^: Wb ! .. :)
[20:34] <vanhalen> mindofmateo: you better google to find out what the ssh daemon is called
[20:35] <EriC^^> thanks Bashing-om :)
[20:35] <mindofmateo> vanhalen: ssh works from both computers to connect to my raspberry pi, just not to each other.  OK
[20:35] <Amm0n> mindofmateo, in ubuntu the ssh client is installed by default, sshd is not
[20:36] <vanhalen> mindofmateo: ok apparently it is openssh-server or something
[20:36] <mindofmateo> Amm0n: gotcha.  all I find is openssh-server, is that correct?
[20:36] <vanhalen> mindofmateo: just install it
[20:36] <mindofmateo> vanhalen: ok, that's the only one I found
[20:39] <Cyber_Akuma> Would this work? comm -3 <(`md5sum foo/) <(`md5sum bar/`)
[20:40] <Cyber_Akuma> To compare files in two folders
[20:40] <mindofmateo> Amm0n, vanhalen: sweeet, that's what fixed it.  Thank you.  Also, when I was trying to work it out myself, I ran 'sudo ufw allow ssh' on both computers, should I undo this?
[20:40] <dewdl> vanhalen: Thank you for your help, the Arduino IDE installed. However the old, non working one is too. I shall look at the .sh to see if there is any more info
[20:40] <vanhalen> mindofmateo: try it both ways
[20:41] <mindofmateo> vanhalen:  I have, they both worke.d
[20:41] <vanhalen> dewdl: maybe the .sh has an uninstall parameter option, can you run it with --help?
[20:41] <Amm0n> mindofmateo, if ufw is enabled you wouldn't be able to connect without this rule
[20:42] <vanhalen> Cyber_Akuma: you could get more help with that in #bash
[20:42] <mindofmateo> Amm0n: how do I tell if it is enabled?  nvm, it's "sudo ufw status"  it says it is disabled.  Should I enable it?
[20:43] <vanhalen> mindofmateo: it is a firewall
[20:43] <Cyber_Akuma> Honerstly, I would prefer a GUI based app, I am seriously tearing my hair out trying to figure out how to do this
[20:43] <Amm0n> mindofmateo, depends, if you're behind a NAT of your router your fine without it
[20:43] <Dagda> Bashing-om: Sorry for the delayed response. When I try 'sudo cat/var/log/Xorg.0.log | pastebinit' I return 'command not found'. I can open the log in shell using 'xdg-open'. What am I missing in order to post it to pastebin?
[20:43] <vanhalen> Cyber_Akuma: what exactly are you trying to do? compare multiple files?
[20:43] <Cyber_Akuma> Compare all the files between two folders
[20:43] <mindofmateo> vanhalen, Amm0n: gotcha.
[20:44] <Cyber_Akuma> with hashes
[20:44] <vanhalen> Dagda: the cat command is catenated to the path following it :)
[20:44] <dewdl> vanhalen: I didn't notice it before through my panic, there is an uninstall.sh file. Ran it and issue solved. Sorry for not seeing it before. Thank you!
[20:45] <Dagda> Bashing-om: It appears my /X11/conf file is screwed. Also, quite a few directories missing...
[20:45] <vanhalen> Cyber_Akuma: you probably want to ask in #bash
[20:45] <vanhalen> dewdl: welcome :)
[20:45] <Cyber_Akuma> Ok, but you don't know of a GUI based application that can do it? I woudl rather use that than a bash command
[20:46] <meh__> how can i create a SOURCE package  for ubuntu ?
[20:46] <vanhalen> dagda, you mistype the command he gave you: you type cat/var/log but it should be cat /var/log, cat is for catenate
[20:46] <meh__> i have changelog, dsc, patches "sat debian/patches"a and the source
[20:46] <vanhalen> Cyber_Akuma: what exactly do you want to do?
[20:47] <vanhalen> Cyber_Akuma: comparing files according to what?
[20:47] <GnomeKris> Which is better Displayport or DVI?
[20:47] <Cyber_Akuma> Again, I have two folders, I want to compare them to make sure all the files copied correctly
[20:47] <vanhalen> Cyber_Akuma: oh that
[20:47] <vanhalen> Cyber_Akuma: why won't you cd in both and just ls -l ?
[20:47] <Cyber_Akuma> I want to compare hashes, not just a file list
[20:47] <vanhalen> Cyber_Akuma: you can compare byte size
[20:48] <luckywolf> hola
[20:48] <vanhalen> Cyber_Akuma: either way, to do it with md5sum you need a little bash script, ask in #bash for better help
[20:49] <Alex-Gamma> Hi, I'm on ubuntu 16.04 with nvidia card and nvidia-361 driver. I'm using xrandr to adjust the gamma correction. I set it up at the starup applications and works fine, but sometimes the gamma values go back to their original values. Could someone help with that ?
[20:49] <GnomeKris> nvm, Ill use displayport. No audio with DVI
[20:49] <Dagda> vanhalen: nub error, thanks! :-D
[20:49] <vanhalen> Dagda: sure thing :)
[20:50] <luckywolf> hola alguien habla español
[20:50] <k1l_> !es | luckywolf
[20:50] <vanhalen> Alex-Gamma: you could try asking in #xorg too
[20:50] <Alex-Gamma> ok vanhalen, thank you
[20:50] <Dagda> Bashin-om: http://paste.ubuntu.com/15819925 (if that doesn't work then the 5's are 6's - tiny fonts! :P)
[20:50] <luckywolf> venga eso iba preguntar
[20:51] <Dagda> Bashin-om: http://paste.ubuntu.com/16819926 (sorry)
[20:52] <vanhalen> Alex-Gamma: you may want to google "xrandr save seettings" or something
[20:52] <Alex-Gamma> I've been googling for a few days vanhalen :)
[20:52] <Finetundar> Hey folks, if I'm in initramfs, is /root supposed to be empty?
[20:53] <ubuntu> clear
[20:54] <vanhalen> Alex-Gamma: sorry :) well you could try asking in #arxhlinux or #linux or #slackware where there are more technical savvy linuxers, xrandr works the same in all distros
[20:54] <vanhalen> Alex-Gamma: sorry that should be #archlinux
[20:54] <Alex-Gamma> Ok, thank you again vanhalen
[20:54] <vanhalen> sure thing
[20:54] <Dagda> Bashin-om: and the lightdm.log http://paste.ubuntu.com/16820029
[20:55] <Cyber_Akuma> vanhalen: I am not really looking for a bash command to be honest, I would prefer an application
[20:55] <vanhalen> Cyber_Akuma: you can write a small application in bash, just ask in #bash trust me
[20:55] <TGVoid> Does anyone know how to speed up ddrescue?
[20:56] <vanhalen> Alex-Gamma: just don't tell them you are using ubuntu, or else they won't help you :P
[20:56] <Bashing-om> Dagda: Sorry, I wandered away . To use our tool, must be installed .. ' sudo apt install pastebinit ' .
[20:57] <Alex-Gamma> Haha, oohh too late for that
[20:57] <vanhalen> sorry :D
[20:57] <Dagda> Bashin-om: I don't follow, sorry. I have pastebinit installed.
[20:57] <Amm0n> TGVoid, i don't think there is a way, be happy it's working if your disk is corrupted
[20:57] <Alex-Gamma> :P
[20:57] <vanhalen> dagda, he was afk, you need to give him your pastebin links again
[20:57] <hastiko> I am getting "no such file or directory" errors often when trying to dd files I can see right in the ls
[20:58] <Dagda> ahh, ok, incoming
[20:58] <hastiko> i had this problem yesterday with another iso and it just worked randomly one time...anyone know why this is saying no such file?
[20:58] <Dagda> Bashin-om: https://paste.ubuntu.com/16820029/ and https://paste.ubuntu.com/16819926/
[20:58] <vanhalen> hastiko: maybe it is to do with read/write permissions? ls -l that file to see
[20:59] <Bashing-om> Dagda: Playing catchup .. reading your log at this time . be back soonest .
[20:59] <Dagda> I'll try removing the X11/conf file again
[20:59] <Amm0n> hastiko, use complete folderstructures in your command not stuff like ~/
[20:59] <hastiko> vanhalen just type the file name and ls -l after?
[20:59] <TGVoid> Amm0n: Thanks
[20:59] <Dagda> Bashin-om: in your own time. Very much appreciate the help.
[20:59] <vanhalen> hastiko: the other way around
[20:59] <hastiko> Amm0n I cd'd into the parent and then did ls to make sure I spelled it right...and then it still says no such file
[21:00] <hastiko> vanhalen: fails to open no such file or directory
[21:00] <Amm0n> hastiko, paste command and ls of the iso
[21:00] <vanhalen> hastiko: what exactly is your dd command line?
[21:01] <hastiko> toshibalaptop@toshibalaptop:~/Downloads$ sudo dd bs=4M if=/antergos-2016.05.28-i686.iso of=/dev/sdb
[21:01] <vanhalen> hastiko: you are probably trying to access someone else's files
[21:01] <hastiko> I am the only user
[21:01] <Amm0n> hastiko, is antergos-2016.05.28-i686.iso in / ?
[21:01] <Bashing-om> Dagda: OK, you are presntly booted with the 'nomodeset' boot parameter, that defeats Kernel Mode Setting such that the proprietary driver will not be loadable. Can you boot without the 'nomodeset' boot parameter ?
[21:01] <hastiko> its in /Downloads
[21:02] <vanhalen> hastiko: then you should type ./file not /file
[21:02] <vanhalen> hastiko: . means here
[21:02] <hastiko> vanhalen: sorry I don't understand...I am in Downloads in terminal
[21:03] <Dagda> Bashin-om: I'm afraid we're reaching the limits of my expertise now. How would I go about trying to do that?
[21:03] <Amm0n> hastiko then use the full path in the command: dd bs=4M if=/home/username/Downloads/antergos-2016.05.28-i686.iso of=/dev/sdb
[21:03] <vanhalen> hastiko: it should be if=./antergos
[21:03] <\9> hastiko: "/antergos-2016.05.28-i686.iso" means a file in the root of the file system
[21:03] <vanhalen> hastiko: or just if=antergos
[21:03] <hastiko> vanhalen: doing it this way worked for xubuntu yesterday....no .
[21:03] <hastiko> i will give the full path way a shot
[21:03] <\9> you need to use "./antergos-2016.05.28-i686.iso" if you want to refer to a file in the current dir
[21:04] <vanhalen> hastiko: you need to first learn file system basics, it is like in windows, / means c:\, i.e. TOP LEVEL
[21:04] <Bashing-om> Dagda: Depends on how you implemented that parameter , /etc/default/grub ? And so far so good . " (II) NVIDIA dlloader X Driver  361.42 " the driver did build .
[21:04] <hastiko> I understand now thanks....its odd that I didn't do that yesterday
[21:04] <hastiko> well I'd love to learn the basics but since I can never get a working sytem without constant problems I cannot
[21:04] <hastiko> its frustrating
[21:04] <hello678> hi dude
[21:05] <hastiko> everyone gives different asnwers....things rarely get fixed....forums don't have answers...i'd love to be good at this but its a headache
[21:05] <vanhalen> hastiko: just type cd / and look around with ls, cd into everywhere and back
[21:06] <Dagda> Bashin-om: I have no idea how I implemented that parameter. All I did was switch to the nvidia proprietary driver from nouveau in Ubuntu software updater and then my problems began. Does this entail altering the boot loader?
[21:06] <vanhalen> hastiko: you may want to read some basic unix introduction pages on the web too
[21:06] <hastiko> toshibalaptop@toshibalaptop:~/Downloads$ sudo dd bs=4M if=./antergos-2016.05.28-i686.iso of=/dev/sdb
[21:06] <hastiko> this look right?
[21:06] <vanhalen> hastiko: yes
[21:06] <hastiko> vanhalen: I have read a lot...just can't get a stable system to play with
[21:07] <hastiko> ok that is running thanks
[21:07] <N3X15> One more HexChat restart, apologies for the reconnect spam and amsg.
[21:07] <hastiko> its weird as I didn't do that yesterday....the '.' here addition...and it made the USB
[21:08] <hastiko> i just have some bad luck as everyone says this stuff is easy...all these odd things happen to me and often randomly resolve
[21:08] <hastiko> i didn't really want to bother with CL etc....just use GUI...but I can't get even that working right
[21:08] <hastiko> don't want to be a sysadmin...just a user :| I know some peple think that's wrong
[21:08] <vanhalen> hastiko: in dd, paramter if means "input file" and you need to specify where it is, the way you did showed it to be in / folder, but in reality it was in /Downloads folder, you see?
[21:09] <craptalk> as per explanation on this site:http://www.howtogeek.com/115797/6-ways-to-speed-up-ubuntu/, but does anyone try this before? and does it really work faster?
[21:09] <hastiko> vanhalen: yes that makes sense thanks
[21:09] <hastiko> so if I put full path I would just use / to start right?
[21:10] <vanhalen> hastiko: next time just to if=/Downloads/myiso.iso to be sure and that command will work regardless of your current working directory
[21:10] <hastiko> i only ended up trying dd as no gui tool would make a live usb without problems
[21:10] <vanhalen> hastiko: yes, / means top level folder
[21:11] <hastiko> but you need to be at / in terminal right? if  you dd with full path from inside a folder will it still work?
[21:11] <Amm0n> hastiko, you can be anywhere if you use the full pathname
[21:11] <vanhalen> hastiko: in terminal, when you are logged in, you are always in some directory, and you change directory with 'cd', initials of "change directory" obviously, and you can see where you are by typing "pwd"
[21:12] <fishhead2567> good afternoon, I was hoping I could get a question answered. I am running 14.04 on a Mac Pro. I am running kernel 4.4.0. I have seen (through experience) that fglrx does not work for this kernel version. My question is, can I get two thunderbolt displays working with the opensource driver? I have one working and I see both in LSUSB but cant seem to figure out how to enable both of them. If not, is there a way to compile fglrx 
[21:12] <hastiko> thanks guys...sorry for frustration....its constant problems. Nothing ever seems to just work
[21:12] <vanhalen> hastiko: so when you refer to a file in the filesystem you need to type in its exact location, and if you refer to it with just its name without specifying what folders it is in, then the shell interprets to mean that it is in the working directory
[21:13] <vanhalen> hastiko: just look around your file system with 'cd' and 'ls'
[21:13] <hastiko> vanhalen: can you take a look at this as well and see if you have any advice? https://askubuntu.com/questions/778897/odd-symbol-showing-up-in-file-names-xubuntu-16-04
[21:13] <Amm0n> hastiko, if you buy hardware next time, make sure it's good supported with linux, saves a lot of trouble
[21:13] <hastiko> I finally got 16.04 xubuntu installed yesterday but there are several weird things happening
[21:14] <vanhalen> hastiko: you probably need to change your locale to UTF8, it is probably somewhere in settings
[21:14] <josevital_> is there a way to view chat history
[21:14] <hastiko> Amm0n: I do need a new laptop but money is a problem....thats why I found linux anyway
[21:14] <Bashing-om> Dagda: If you booted the recovery console, will set the "nomodeset" boot parameter. Let me finish reading the logs .. and I be back and we continue this .
[21:14] <hastiko> vanhalen: thanks...will look for that. I did verify I had same language settings but didn't see any utf-8 setting
[21:16] <lerner> I got 700 roms of sega games: all of them in a directory, but there is one subdirectory for each game: each rom is in a different subdirectory... how do I extract the whole 700 to the directory from these subdirectories?
[21:16] <vanhalen> hastiko: type 'locale' in your terminal to see what your character encoding is
[21:16] <Dagda> Bashin-om: Ahh, I follow you now. I don't think I can. The cryptsetup page loads but I can't type anything in to the field in order to decrypt the disk to get to login. If I drop to a shell there, I just get a flashing cursor, no prompt, can't type anything in. I'll have another go while you're away.
[21:16] <hastiko> utf-8 and english
[21:16] <vanhalen> hastiko: you want to edit your /etc/locale.gen and un-# UTF8 for your language and then run 'sudo locale-gen'
[21:17] <Dagda> Bashin-om: I can open a terminal in desktop and type commands now at least...
[21:17] <vanhalen> hastiko: ok it should work, maybe it is a font problem, maybe you want to install more ttf fonts
[21:17] <hastiko> how do I do that?
[21:18] <hastiko> language support says it is up to date
[21:18] <dbz2k> Can ubuntu  16.10 kernel work on 16.04? http://kernel.ubuntu.com/~kernel-ppa/mainline/v4.6-yakkety/
[21:18] <vanhalen> hastiko: sudo apt-cache search ttf
[21:18] <GnomeKris> So, does anyone know where to find the dark adwaita theme from gtk 3 that will work with gtk 2 applications?
[21:18] <hastiko> vanhalen: done...then what?
[21:20] <GnomeKris> Nvm, found it here...
[21:20] <GnomeKris> https://github.com/axxapy/Adwaita-dark-gtk2
[21:20] <dbz2k> anyone know?
[21:20] <reisio> dbz2k: yes
[21:20] <reisio> kernels can be mixed and matched with any userland, for the most part
[21:21] <meh__> how can i obtain the "files" variable of the dsc file?
[21:22] <meh__> i a trying to modify a very huge program from repos    and i need modify it  "because i've modified the program's code"
[21:23] <Bashing-om> Dagda: I find no faults . Power the system down and restart from a cold boot . Attempt a normal login . What happens ?
[21:23] <hastiko> how do I put output in pastebin to share? add "pastebinit" to end?
[21:24] <vanhalen_> meh__: cat file.dsc | grep files
[21:24] <hastiko> like sudo apt-get install appname pastebinit?
[21:24] <vanhalen_> hastiko: sudo apt-get install pastebinit
[21:24] <effectnet> hi
[21:24] <vanhalen_> hastiko: it is [appname], you fill it in
[21:24] <hastiko> I need to install it first?
[21:25] <hastiko> or just append "pastebinit" to end of command I want to share
[21:25] <effectnet> when i go to install ubuntu, it tells me that i dont have a swap partition.  i have the 64g ssd and 1t hdd.  where do i put swap?
[21:25] <vanhalen_> hastiko: type pastebinit, if it doesn't exist then you can install it with that command
[21:26] <meh__> vanhalen_: not,  i am talking abot the new hashes
[21:26] <vanhalen_> hastiko: you use pastebinit with a pipe, |, that tool make you use the output of a command as an input for the next command
[21:26] <meh__> vanhalen_: for update my file
[21:26] <reisio> effectnet: somewhere
[21:26] <effectnet> heh
[21:26] <reisio> effectnet: if you have a 64gb ssd, you probably have lots of ram, don't you
[21:26] <effectnet> no only 4g ram and computer cannot upgrade
[21:26] <reisio> so you can probaby put swap on the spinner and neglect it safely enough; unless you want fast resume from hibernation, in which case you might still leave swap on the solid state
[21:27] <hastiko> vanhalen: I don't understand. I was trying to pastebin the output of the last command you gave me to ask what to do next
[21:27] <effectnet> hmmm
[21:27] <hastiko> for the character issues
[21:27] <vanhalen_> hastiko: such as this: cat file | pastebinit
[21:27] <vanhalen_> hastiko: i recommend for you to install some ttf fonts and see if that helps
[21:27] <effectnet> well i will not hibernate on this computer, but i will sleep
[21:27] <meh__> and what means  the center tag?
[21:27] <vanhalen_> hastiko: sudo apt-get install ttf[hit tab to see more]
[21:28] <meh__> at checksums-sha1 "for example"
[21:28] <Dagda> Bashin-om: this http://ubuntuforums.org/showthread.php?t=2298740 seems to be the same issue I'm having, but there are no replies.
[21:28] <GnsP> Hi everybody
[21:28] <hastiko> vanhalen: so you gave me command: sudo apt-cache search ttf   can I then put sudo apt-cache search ttf | pastebinit
[21:28] <meh__> sha1sum "531505652" chromium-browser_50.0.2661.102.orig.tar.xz
[21:28] <vanhalen_> meh__: this is not ubuntu related
[21:28] <GnsP> I am using i3 on ubuntu
[21:28] <hastiko> and get link to share?
[21:28] <vanhalen_> vanhalen_: first do an apt-cache search, then pick one and install it with apt-get install
[21:29] <hastiko> I just don't understand how or which ttf fonts to install
[21:29] <meh__> vanhalen_: this i s an ubuntu package  "chromium"
[21:29] <vanhalen_> hastiko: just install several
[21:29] <hastiko> i don't know how
[21:29] <reisio> hastiko: for what?
[21:29] <CyberGabber>  /part
[21:29] <vanhalen_> hastiko: sudo apt-get install ttf-liberation, for instance
[21:30] <vanhalen_> hastiko: install ttf-dejavu
[21:30] <effectnet> i wonder how much swap i'll need, i wanna make 8g of my 64g ssd swap, is that too much?
[21:30] <hastiko> reisio: to try and fix this problem https://askubuntu.com/questions/778897/odd-symbol-showing-up-in-file-names-xubuntu-16-04 vanhalen said to install ttf fonts but I don't understand which ones to try or how its connected
[21:30] <Dagda> Bashin-om: so I just did a cold-boot as you asked, I have a blank screen (purple). So far I've restarted to get to GRUB, boot in recovery move, am asked to enter my encryption key in the shell, that takes me to my recovery options. From there I resume a normal start which takes me to normal login. I can login now i.e. xorg doesn't crash, but unity doesn't load.
[21:30] <hastiko> utf-8 is set ok
[21:30] <GnsP> Here in my local network, we can not use irc protocol, so I am trying use webirc. I wrote a small python script to launch a minimal webkit browser opening this page. Now I tried to bind this application to a keysequence in i3. But somehow this does not work.
[21:30] <GnsP> Can anybody help
[21:30] <GnsP> ?
[21:30] <Bashing-om> Dagda: reading ( Bashing-om is my nick , if you do not use it , will not highlight, and I miss your responses) = a very busy channel here .
[21:30] <hastiko> vanhalen: so just pick some random ttf fonts? how will that tell me something?
[21:31] <hastiko> or how do I use the font to determine something?
[21:31] <vanhalen_> GnsP: you probably need to ask in #i3 or #python
[21:31] <effectnet> i'll bbl.  bye you guys :P
[21:31] <hastiko> I am in over my head sorry
[21:31] <hastiko> i need third grader directions
[21:31] <GnsP> Thanks, vanhalen_
[21:31] <hastiko> maybe second grader even
[21:31] <vanhalen_> hastiko: i am guessing you have a font issue, i am just suggesting that you install new fonts, you install new stuff with this command: sudo apt-get install [stuff]
[21:31] <hastiko> ok..then what?
[21:32] <vanhalen_> hastiko: then reboot to see if it works better
[21:32] <hastiko> but it seems like picking one piece of sand from millions...how do I know what fonts to try?
[21:32] <vanhalen_> hastiko: a font install is like 5 megabytes or something, just install several to be sure, get the most popular ones: dejavu, bitstream etc, etc
[21:32] <hastiko> i should mention that the same problem happens in Elementary OS which I have on dual boot
[21:33] <hastiko> since its based on ubuntu does that tell you anything?
[21:33] <vanhalen_> hastiko: i would say try mscore fonts too but that installer seems to be broken
[21:33] <dbz2k> reisio, one last questions so using yakkety kenrel most of time should work on ubuntu 16.04?
[21:33] <hastiko> can I install all of them at once or have to do one at a time?
[21:34] <reisio> dbz2k: most any kernel will work with most any userland
[21:34] <vanhalen_> hastiko: ubuntu is the most user-friendly distro out there, and if you cannot even use it then you better give up and go back to windows
[21:34] <OerHeks> oh, elementary have its own issues
[21:34] <Cyber_Akuma-Temp> Hmmm, I want to disable the screen from blanking after not being used for a while..... but when I click on Display nothing happens
[21:34] <reisio> hastiko: it's hard to imagine someone having purposefully used u+f022 in a filename
[21:34] <reisio> probably some kind of mojibake
[21:34] <Bashing-om> Dagda: That looks to me that we need to know how encryption works . and that ain't me .
[21:34] <hastiko> vanhalen: I want to learn but things dont work right...if I should just give up that's not fair
[21:35] <vanhalen_> hastiko: you can live with a few broken fonts in your screen, you don't have to fix everything
[21:35] <vanhalen_> hastiko: just go read something about unix or go watch the channel flow in #bash or #linux or something
[21:35] <hastiko> reisio: those characters are not something I used. When I look at that external drive I see normal file names...its only on Xubuntu 16.04 and Elementary Freya that that weird symbol appears
[21:35] <hastiko> I got no asnwers to askubuntu post so I am jsut trying to see why this happens
[21:36] <hastiko> vanhalen: I can read all day it doesn't solve this as nobody has same issue
[21:36] <hastiko> its weird
[21:36] <vanhalen_> hastiko: it happens because linux is free and sometimes you shouln't be whining, it is all volunteer work
[21:36] <hastiko> and being a noob when weird things happen people just get aggravated andtell you to "go to windows"
[21:36] <hastiko> please stop lecturing me over things I am not doing wrong
[21:37] <hastiko> I follow the directions and it doens't work...what else can I do?
[21:37] <seto> having some issues with my sound on my chromebook 00:1b.0 Audio device: Intel Corporation Atom Processor Z36xxx/Z37xxx Series High Definition Audio Controller (rev 0e) i have only hdmi listed for output devices
[21:37] <dbz2k> reisio, sorry to keep bothering you, but I am pretty sure these drivers are in mainline https://wireless.wiki.kernel.org/en/users/Drivers/b43
[21:37] <seto> on basically newest kernel avail
[21:37] <vanhalen_> hastiko: you were helped i think we need to move on
[21:37] <hastiko> this is why I get sick of linux every time I try....and I was not helped...problem still exsists
[21:37] <hastiko> and you are being rude
[21:37] <reisio> hastiko: what type of FS is it?
[21:37] <Jordan_U> hastiko: I don't think that is in any way a font problem. What fikesystem are these files stored on?
[21:38] <reisio> dbz2k: so?
[21:38] <hastiko> reisio: sorry what is FS?
[21:38] <Cyber_Akuma> Neither "Display" nor "Power" start, I see the application icon appear in the tray on the left for a few seconds, then go away
[21:38] <hastiko> Oh do you mean format? It's a Fat32 external HDD and they were made in OSX
[21:39] <reisio> hastiko: what's 'mount' say about it?
[21:39] <Jordan_U> hastiko: Please unmount the filesystem and check it with dosfsck.
[21:40] <dbz2k> reisio, I am confused if these are actually open source or are using wrapper to work? I am pretty these are reverse engineered though
[21:40] <hastiko> The HDD isn't attached right now...should I attach it but not mount it?
[21:41] <hastiko> I have the external drive here...and I have a couple of the files from it with the weird characters saved on the desktop too..what should I do next?
[21:41] <reisio> dbz2k: does it matter?
[21:41] <Jordan_U> hastiko: Attach it (it will automount, that's OK) then unmount it using the umount command.
[21:42] <reisio> hastiko: is it from a system whose default language was English?
[21:42] <hastiko> reisio: yes....US English and UTF-8 I think
[21:42] <hastiko> ok its attached and has been unmounted
[21:43] <hastiko> i unmounted with menu if that matters..not cl
[21:43] <reisio> hastiko: never anything but English?
[21:43] <Jordan_U> hastiko: To be clear, those characters in those filenames show up as '.' in OSX?
[21:43] <Dagda> Bashing-om: That's no problem. At least we've narrowed things down. I appreciate all the help, thanks.
[21:43] <hastiko> reisio I may have used british English setting at one point....but not long and not primarily
[21:43] <hastiko> Jordan_U: Yes
[21:43] <reisio> hastiko: you might want to try mounting it with a different codepage
[21:44] <reisio> hastiko: -o codepage=850 for example
[21:44] <hastiko> reisio: don't know what that means or how to do it sorry
[21:44] <Bashing-om> Dagda: Let us linger, and see who respondes that does know a bit about booting encryptd system . I am in for a penny - in for a pound .
[21:44] <Jordan_U> hastiko: For now at least, only mount in another code page read only though if you do.
[21:44] <reisio> hastiko: mount -o codepage=850 /dev/foo /mnt/path
[21:44] <hastiko> Jordan_U: also it's not every "." just some of them
[21:44] <reisio> hastiko: alternatively, you might check what Mac OS's 'mount' output for the drive is
[21:45] <tikund> I am installing Ubuntu server and have a question about setting up the drives in a software raid. Both drives are same size/make/model, my question is... Can I just create a md device by just joining the empty partitions of both drives then having the installer partition the then configured raid device? or is it better to create identical partitions on both drives and then creating multiple raid partitions?
[21:45] <hastiko> guys I don't understand sorry....I don't know what to type and what to change
[21:46] <reisio> hastiko: did you mount it from the file manager?
[21:46] <Jordan_U> reisio: Do you agree that it's prudent to only mount read only when test mounting with another code page?
[21:46] <hastiko> i need step by step directions...
[21:46] <clincks> Hello gyys, just a small question about docker... Who can help me ?
[21:46] <hastiko> reisio: I plugged the HDD in and it automounted...then I selected unmount from the menu
[21:46] <reisio> Jordan_U: wouldn't bother me, but he's already got it mounted wrong
[21:47] <reisio> hastiko: k, unmount it from the menu, then open a terminal
[21:47] <hastiko> so tell me what to do step by step and I can start over
[21:47] <reisio> hastiko: use sudo lsblk -f to find its device name (/dev/foo#)
[21:47] <hastiko> ok unmounted and terminal open
[21:47] <hastiko> is there risk to my data before I do any of this?
[21:47] <Dagda> Bashing-om: Yeah, I'm not going anywhere atm. I'm looking at the bootlog up to being prompted for my encryption key. Only possible flags I see are 'lvmetad is not active yet, using direct activiation during sysinit' and ""Volume group "ubuntu-vg" not found"" "Cannot process volume group ubuntu-vg"
[21:47] <reisio> hastiko: then mount it like this: mkdir -p /mnt/test; mount -o codepage=850,ro /dev/foo# /mnt/test
[21:48] <reisio> hastiko: then check how the chars look
[21:48] <reisio> hastiko: shouldn't be, no
[21:48] <hastiko> here is drive I believe: sdb1 vfat   BACKUP HD02 867C-1A13
[21:48] <reisio> hastiko: if you want to circumvent the issue altogether, then copy the data off from Mac OS, and then reformat that FS as NTFS
[21:49] <Dagda> Bashing-om: Once I enter my key, I have no time to see what happens between then and the recovery menu loading.
[21:49] <reisio> hastiko: give it a whirl with /dev/sdb1 then
[21:49] <Bashing-om> Dagda: Uh Huh .. looks like a config issue with the encryption booting . Others here will have to direct our actions as I just do not know.
[21:49] <hastiko> I can't right now as I need to use the drive with OSX....so in the codepage command I put sdb in place of foo#?
[21:49] <hastiko> sdb1 sorry
[21:52] <Jordan_U> reisio: It may be fikesystem corruption rather than an incorrect code page.
[21:52] <hastiko> reisio: I don't know what command to run...i don'[t know what parts I am supposed to replace with things
[21:53] <hastiko> Jordan_U: I have two identical drives that I manually copy files to from OSX as backup...they both do this on Xubuntu and Elementary
[21:53] <Fireagles> ciao
[21:53] <hastiko> and when I copy the files to xubuntu they still appear messed up like that
[21:54] <frib> i've modified /etc/hosts but a hostname still resolves to its old IP address.  How can I fix this?
[21:54] <reisio> Jordan_U: might be aliens
[21:54] <OerHeks> hastiko, then come back when you have started xubuntu and drive ready.
[21:54] <hastiko> OerHeks: i am on xubuntu now and drive is attached and unmounted
[21:58] <hastiko> Guys what do I do next?
 hastiko: then mount it like this: mkdir -p /mnt/test; mount -o codepage=850,ro /dev/foo# /mnt/test where foo would be sdb1
[21:59] <reisio> ie: /dev/sdb1 /mnt/test
[21:59] <hastiko> mkdir: cannot create directory ‘/mnt/test’: Permission denied
[21:59] <reisio> yeah, guess you must prepend 'sudo ' to all those
[21:59] <hastiko> oh did I not sudo?
[21:59] <hastiko> sorry
[21:59] <reisio> I didn't say sudo, my badzes
[21:59] <hastiko> realized it as soon as I messed it up
[22:01] <hastiko> i put sudo but it says: mount: only root can use "--options" option
[22:02] <reisio> sudo mkdir -p /mnt/test; sudo mount -o codepage=850,ro /dev/sdb1 /mnt/test
[22:02] <reisio> then look in /mnt/test/ and see if the filenames are still crazy
[22:03] <hastiko> reisio: how do I look in there? I put cd /mnt/tst and it didnt work
[22:04] <Jordan_U> hastiko: If there are files with problematic names in the root of the filesystem then "sudo ls /mnt/test/".
[22:04] <reisio> hastiko: find /mnt/test/ -iname '*bootcamp*drivers*'
[22:05] <hastiko> sudo ls /mnt/test/ just put me back where I was....in the home directory ls
[22:06] <hastiko> what exactly do I type?
[22:06] <seto> having some issues with my sound on my chromebook 00:1b.0 Audio device: Intel Corporation Atom Processor Z36xxx/Z37xxx Series High Definition Audio Controller (rev 0e) i have only hdmi listed for output devices
[22:06] <Jordan_U> hastiko: Did it list the files in /mnt/test/ (which should be the files on the root of your USB drive's filesystem) first?
[22:06] <hastiko> I dont even know if it made this directory....it didnt have any output and just took me to the prompt
[22:07] <reisio> seto: which chromebook is that?
[22:07] <seto> lenovo n21
[22:07] <reisio> seto: if you run 'alsamixer' and change the sound card manually to the 2nd one, does it work?
[22:07] <seto> thinking gona have to reinstall
[22:07] <reisio> seto: nah
[22:07] <Jordan_U> hastiko: Please pastebin the output of "mount".
[22:07] <seto> let me see
[22:08] <hastiko> can we back up? I don't know where I am suppsoed to be..I don't know how to pastebin...
[22:08] <hastiko> I am at the main user prompt...what do I do from here?
[22:08] <reisio> hastiko: it what?
[22:08] <reisio> hastiko: find /mnt/test/ -iname '*bootcamp*drivers*'
[22:08] <hastiko> how?
[22:09] <seto> just hdmi
[22:09] <seto> no other devices
[22:09] <reisio> seto: hit F6
[22:09] <seto> │ Chip: Intel Valleyview2 HDMI                         F2:  System information │
[22:09] <seto> │ View: F3:[Playback] F4: Capture  F5: All             F6:  Select sound card  │
[22:09] <seto> │ Item: S/PDIF
[22:09] <reisio> (in alsamixer)
[22:09] <seto> i did
[22:09] <Jordan_U> hastiko: "find" is a command, reisio wants you to literally enter that line into the terminal.
[22:10] <reisio> seto: only has 0 hdmi?
[22:10] <hastiko> thanks..its not clear to me when I should enter somthing verbatim or when soeone is telling me to do something
[22:10] <seto> yep
[22:10] <reisio> hastiko: give it time
[22:10] <seto> running sstrait deb at moment
[22:10] <hastiko> find /mnt/test/ -iname '*bootcamp*drivers*' just gives me a cursor on the next line
[22:10] <seto> gona have to go back to 16.04
[22:11] <Jordan_U> hastiko: Please run "mount" and pastebin the output.
[22:11] <seto> the debian bunch needs to get crap working right
[22:11] <Jordan_U> !pastebin | hastiko
[22:12] <hastiko> jordan first I need to know HOW to pastebin output..or should I manually cut and paste to the link ubottu gave?
[22:12] <seto> 0  HDA Intel PCH is what the option by zero is
[22:13] <hastiko> https://paste.ubuntu.com/16821931/
[22:14] <reisio> seto: https://github.com/GalliumOS/galliumos-distro/issues/66
[22:14] <reisio> long thread
[22:14] <reisio> seto: oh? 0 hda intel pch isn't hdmi, but if it isn't working it isn't working
[22:14] <seto> well under volume etc i have only hdmi shown
[22:14] <reisio> hastiko: see, it outputs the file with the weird char
[22:15] <reisio> hastiko: only it's a ? now instead of f022, so still wrong
[22:15] <reisio> hastiko: you say it looks right on Mac OS?
[22:16] <hastiko> reisio: Yes. It looks like a yeti head in some places, a " in some places, a FO22 in some places and now a ?
[22:16] <reisio> hastiko: but not on Mac OS, right?
[22:16] <hastiko> it looks normal on OSX
[22:16] <reisio> okay
[22:16] <reisio> hastiko: and what capacity is this fat disk?
[22:16] <hastiko> when plugged in and looking at files on the HDD and when looking at the same files savedon OSX
[22:16] <hastiko> its 2tb
[22:16] <hastiko> fat32
[22:17] <reisio> oof
[22:17] <reisio> how much is used?
[22:17] <hastiko> little over half
[22:17] <reisio> plllb :p
[22:17] <reisio> well it shouldn't be fatddddd
[22:17] <reisio> fat*
[22:17] <reisio> do you have the space on another drive to copy data off it, then back on?
[22:18] <hastiko> well I did that for easiest cross compatibility and I don't have files over 4gb
[22:18] <hastiko> that's what everyone said was best
[22:18] <hastiko> since nothing else works on all OSes natively
[22:18] <reisio> NTFS does
[22:19] <seto> hmm that post looks like it is for chroot linux reisio
[22:19] <seto> which would not apply to this as this is non chromeos now
[22:20] <Jordan_U> hastiko: fat32 volumes larger than 32 GiB aren't even officially supported in Windows, and are far from the best for cross compatability.
[22:20] <seto> just gona go back to my working kubuntu install in about half a hour or what ever
[22:21] <reisio> hastiko: you might ask #macosx if they are familiar with the issue
[22:21] <reisio> the simplest solution would be to buy another big disk, copy all the data off it from Mac OS, then reformat it from GNU/Linux, not from Mac OS
[22:21] <reisio> since clearly Mac OS is crazy in this regard :p
[22:21] <reisio> and I wouldn't use fat
[22:21] <hastiko_> reiso irc was frozen and I dont know what you said before
[22:21] <mrchairman> When I ssh into a box as root, does everything I run behave like if I had "sudo" in front of it. Dumb question I know, but I need help
[22:22] <hastiko_> does this output tell you why its doing this?
[22:22] <reisio> hastiko: you might ask #macosx if they are familiar with the issue
[22:22] <reisio> mrchairman: for Ubuntu, yes
[22:22] <hastiko_> reisio: nobody from the OSX side even asnwered or tried to help....in any forum or chat
[22:22] <reisio> hastiko_: bummer
[22:23] <hastiko_> does the output tell you something?
[22:23] <hastiko_> all that stuff pasted?
[22:23] <reisio> what this one? https://paste.ubuntu.com/16821931/
[22:23] <mrchairman> reisio, another question, do people set up accounts for instead of root as "www-data" to ssh into? Would that be common ?
[22:23] <hastiko_> yes
[22:24] <hastiko_> Jordan_U: did you see the output?
[22:24] <mrchairman> reiso, I wrote that weird, do people make "www-data" ssh accounts? I'm running a webserver
[22:24] <reisio> mrchairman: www-data is a generic one applications use, IIRC
[22:24] <Jordan_U> hastiko_: Yes.
[22:24] <hastiko_> does it tell you anything?
[22:24] <reisio> mrchairman: people do make users for ssh access to hosted data, though, yes
[22:24] <tikund> Is this thought process of having an Ubuntu installed on a software RAID 1 array correct.... I at first thought it would be easier if I just created a RAID 1 array using completely empty drives, no partitions at all and then having the installer create partitions on the array that was created.... but.. if a drive fails and I have to boot from only one drive, is it going to actually have the partitions that can be seen w/o the drive being in an array? (for
[22:24] <tikund> example, the root partition and swap partition?
[22:25] <mrchairman> reisio, if I'm on ssh as root, can I change myself to www-data for a few minutes?
[22:26] <hastiko_> reisio: why is fat32 bad?
[22:26] <reisio> hastiko_: try sudo umount /mnt/test; sudo mount -o codepage=1250,ro /dev/sdb1 /mnt/test; find /mnt/test/ -iname '*bootcamp*drivers*'
[22:26] <[Saint]> tikund: yes, it should. RAID1 is a mirrored pair so you should be able to deal gracefully with losing that mirror.
[22:26] <reisio> hastiko_: it's not bad, it's just a poor choice, and Mac OS has clearly used some bizarre system for it
[22:26] <reisio> mrchairman: su - user
[22:27] <[Saint]> tikund: sorry, I'll retract that.
[22:27] <[Saint]> tikund: yes, it *will*.
[22:27] <[Saint]> Not should, will.
[22:27] <reisio> mrchairman: 'exit' to exit
[22:27] <reisio> mrchairman: or su - root if you prefer
[22:27] <mrchairman> reiso, thank you man, so su www-data, then bam I'm www-data
[22:27] <tikund> [Saint], ok, so I don't need to create the partitions then create an array for each partition?
[22:27] <[Saint]> No.
[22:27] <mrchairman> reiso, thanks very much for helping me
[22:27] <reisio> tikund: what do you want raid for?
[22:27] <reisio> mrchairman: r-e-i-[TAB key]
[22:27] <hastiko_> reisio: /mnt/test/Documents/Tech/Bootcamp Drivers 6?2014
[22:28] <tikund> reisio, RAID 1 array, for redundancy.
[22:28] <reisio> tikund: of what, data?
[22:28] <hastiko_> you know what? the ? might be a / on OSX
[22:28] <hastiko_> I dont have OSX to check right now...that laptop is borked
[22:28] <tikund> reisio, yeah, the server I'm installing Ubuntu on is a server for backups
[22:28] <hastiko_> does it change things if it's a /?
[22:28] <reisio> hastiko_: well you could check all the possibilities, but it'll be simpler to copy the data off and back onto a new FS
[22:29] <reisio> tikund: RAID isn't really for redundancy of data, it's for redundancy of /access/ to data
[22:29] <tikund> [Saint], I just wanted to make sure as from what I've read online about setting up a software RAID instructs you to manually create the swap & root partition then create a software RAID array for each of those.
[22:29] <hastiko_> reisio: i cant right now as all I have is this laptop with 80gb or so space on it and the two backup drives
[22:29] <[Saint]> That's not entirely true.
[22:29] <reisio> it actually does the opposite of making data redundant, it kills drives (for the sake of faster /access/)
[22:29] <[Saint]> But I would say that RAID1 is a poor choice for redundency.
[22:29] <tikund> reisio, uh.. redundancy as in a drive fails I still have my data?
[22:30] <reisio> hastiko_: you could get another drive
[22:30] <tikund> [Saint], which RAID type is best?
[22:30] <reisio> tikund: that's coincidental
[22:30] <tikund> 6 or 10?
[22:30] <reisio> for data redundancy, no raid
[22:30] <hastiko_> i dont want to buy a new hdd just because of some file name issue
[22:30] <reisio> hastiko_: so don't
[22:30] <hastiko_> there has to be a way to fix this
[22:30] <Jordan_U> tikund: RAID is not a replacement for backups. Make sure you have backups.
[22:31] <reisio> hastiko_: to be clear, you could get a new drive so you'd have to space to copy data off this drive and back onto it if you wanted (to fix it)
[22:31] <hastiko_> well so far nobody can tell me WHY it's happened or how to fix it....just "go to windows" or buy stuff...its frustrating
[22:31] <hastiko_> how would that fix it as we dont know what the issue is?
[22:31] <[Saint]> I don't think OP suggested RAID /was/ a substitute for backups.
[22:31] <reisio> tikund: lots of ways to mirror data on n separate devices other than RAID
[22:31] <[Saint]> I think he just wants the server to stay up if a drive fails.
[22:31] <[Saint]> which only RAID will solve.
[22:31] <tikund> [Saint], yes, correct.
[22:32] <reisio> hastiko_: the issue is windows or mac os was used to create this FAT filesystem
[22:32] <reisio> hastiko_: and it did it in a strange way
[22:32] <reisio> hastiko_: taking this particular FAT filesystem out of the equation would likely circumvent the issue entirely
[22:32] <hastiko_> so if I want to use a HDD between OSes how do I do it a not strange way? how do I know creating it on xubuntu won't be weird too in another OS?
[22:33] <reisio> no, that is not what RAID is for
[22:33] <reisio> people use it for that, but it's not advisable
[22:33] <fishhead2567> does anyone have any advice for running dual thunderbolt displays?
[22:33] <reisio> hastiko_: because GNU/Linux tools are created by enthusiasts that want things to work
[22:33] <reisio> hastiko_: Mac OS is created by exclusionists that want only Apple things to work, etc.
[22:34] <hastiko_> reisio: funny since nothing I have used on linux works without issue...I want to be able to use it but its always like this
[22:34] <reisio> hastiko_: you're probably using a lot of things specifically designed for/by Mac OS, then
[22:34] <Jordan_U> hastiko_: Please unmount the filesystem and try dosfsck. Note however that before you do anything else be sure that you have backups of all files on this USB drive.
[22:35] <tikund> [Saint], so yeah, my main question I guess, when creating a software based RAID 1 array, is it best to manually create the identical partitions on both drives and then from that point create an array for each partition.
[22:35] <hastiko_> two days just trying to get live USBs working...none of the GUIs worked....nobody could figure out why....software center hangs and will never load...xfburn always has errors....every single thing I try has a problem
[22:35] <[Saint]> I think it is pretty hard to argue that failure tolerance isn't an intended function of RAID1
[22:35] <hastiko_> Jordan_U:  I alread put the drive away as I have to leave
[22:35] <reisio> [Saint]: it certainly is, but for the sake of data /access/
[22:35] <hastiko_> I dont want to do antyhing thats going to risk the drive right now as everything else is broken
[22:36] <tikund> I guess my thought of it is, why have multiple arrays when you can just create a single array of just a 'blank drive' (or the free space whatever you wanna call it) and let the operating system create the partitions.
[22:36] <hastiko_> i wanted linux to work for me but nothing works as people say it should and there are constant problems...no idea why
[22:36] <seto> whats a good tool for debian linux to make a bootable live ubuntu thumb drive?
[22:36] <reisio> if you aren't a big entity with a half dozen or more drives and a /closet of replacement drives at the ready/, it's a silly idea
[22:36] <hastiko_> then they say "if you cant handle ubuntu you should leave linux" as if I made it not work correctly
[22:36] <reisio> seto: unetbootin should work, dd's great, but use with caution
[22:37] <[Saint]> reisio: I feel like you're arguing a point no one actually made. Perhaps I'm not understanding. As far as I understand OP's situation, all he wants if you his server to not fall over if he loses a disk.
[22:37] <hastiko_> unetbootin never worked for me...always some failure or problem
[22:37] <reisio> [Saint]: then you missed it in the buffer, I asked him explicitly and he said
[22:37] <hastiko_> thanks for trying reisio and jordan...I feel like giving up
[22:37] <reisio> hastiko_: so give up
[22:37] <hastiko_> cant fight the OS every day
[22:38] <[Saint]> I'm not disagreeing with you, but I also think it is pretty hard to argue that for the use case a mirrored RAID is indeed quite desirable here.
[22:38] <tikund> I said redundancy, I guess I meant more in the terms of system reliability
[22:38] <seto> no unet for debian
[22:38] <[Saint]> Is it the primary function of mirrored RAID? No, hell no. I don't think anyone said it was.
[22:38] <reisio> [Saint]: didn't seem so hard when I was doing it a few minutes ago, when I was still interested in this conversation
[22:38] <[Saint]> Will it work for OP's use case?
[22:38] <Jordan_U> hastiko_: You're welcome. Do note again that your 2 TiB fat32 filesystem isn't supported by Windows: https://technet.microsoft.com/en-us/library/cc938432.aspx
[22:38] <[Saint]> Absolutely.
[22:38] <reisio> now there's a terrible argument :p
[22:38] <OerHeks> seto, sudo dd  if=/path/to/.iso of=/dev/sd[x] bs=4M ; sync
[22:38] <reisio> is duct tape designed for making shoes? No. Can you make shoes out of duct tape? Yes.
[22:39]  * reisio rolls eyes
[22:39] <hastiko_> Jordan I wanted OSX and Linux ability...and windows if I had to....Iwas told fat32 will work in windows
[22:39] <hastiko_> it won't?
[22:39] <reisio> hastiko_: it will, but NTFS would've been a better choice
[22:39] <reisio> and not using Mac OS to format the drive in the first place, also
[22:39] <hastiko_> NTFS wont work well on OSX
[22:39] <chindy> Hi, VirtuatBox tells me that VT-x is not available on my System and thusly failed to run Vagrant...but lscpu and /proc/cpuinfo tells me that i infact do have VT-x
[22:39] <reisio> hastiko_: it'll work fine
[22:39] <Jordan_U> hastiko_: It will work for volumes <= 32 GiB (and maybe for filesystems <= 128 GiB).
[22:39] <reisio> chindy: tells you how?
[22:40] <seto> oh lovely
[22:40] <[Saint]> reisio: I do understand what you're saying but you appear to be framing it as if it would be some terrible misuse of RAID to use RAID1 for the intention of covering your uptime against a disk loss.
[22:40] <seto> so theres no gui program to do it?
[22:40] <chindy> reisio, VT-x/AMD-V hardware acceleration is not available on your system. Your 64-bit guest will fail to detect a 64-bit CPU and will not be able to boot.
[22:40] <Jordan_U> hastiko_: ntfs-3g works for OSX, but it does require setup.
[22:40] <reisio> [Saint]: well I can't help you with your misperceptions
[22:40] <reisio> I mean I could if I cared to, I guess
[22:40] <seto> doubt ill ever touch debian again
[22:40] <hastiko_> well thanks for being patient....i dont know why somuch wird stuff happens or why even simple distros fail to work for me as people say they should
[22:40] <reisio> chindy: what in /proc/cpuinfo makes you think otherwise
[22:40] <seto> they aperrantly have zero programs to do it
[22:40] <reisio> Mac OS has ntfs support by default
[22:40] <hastiko_> i have tried several times over the years and its always like this
[22:41] <[Saint]> I don't think anyone is seriously suggesting this is a replacement for backups. ANd I don't understand your attitude one bit.
[22:41] <Jordan_U> reisio: Read only.
[22:41] <reisio> yes indeed
[22:41] <[Saint]> "you don't understand and don;t do that 'cos it's stupid but I won't explain at all" has no value.
[22:42] <reisio> chindy: ?
[22:42] <chindy> reisio, it lists it
[22:42] <reisio> chindy: 'it' what?
[22:43] <chindy> there... also Intel says so on their website... and lscpu says Virtualisation: VT-X
[22:43] <tikund> [Saint], what i'm trying to do isn't using RAID as a backup but.. simply insuring that the system that contains all my backups, doesn't loose data due to drive failure. Am I using RAID in an incorrect way?
[22:43] <tikund> ensuring**
[22:43] <reisio> chindy: can you say what in /proc/cpuinfo makes you think you have vt-x?
[22:43] <chindy> reisio, grep --color vmx /proc/cpuinfo
[22:44] <reisio> okay
[22:44] <[Saint]> tikund: as far as I am concerned, yes.
[22:44] <reisio> chindy: check your BIOS
[22:44] <[Saint]> Someone else seems to be fairly vocal about otherwise, take that as you will.
[22:44] <hastiko_> Jordan_U: I just tried something...to edit the file name and put the / back in place of the yeti head looking symbol and it said "error file names cannot contain /"
[22:44] <tikund> So then what is the best way of ensuring data you want backed up, doesn't get lost due to lets say a drive failure.
[22:44] <hastiko_> is that the issue? those files had / in the place that weird symbol is going
[22:44] <reisio> tikund: put it on more than one drive
[22:45] <[Saint]> it is on more than one drive, it's RAID1.
[22:45] <[Saint]> :p
[22:45] <irwiss> tikund: remote backups to the cloud is one way, raid won't protect you if your house is on fire
[22:45] <hastiko_> maybe that's it....I had lots of "/" in file names for dates etc....
[22:45] <reisio> raid won't protect you at all
[22:45] <reisio> it will wear your drives down faster
[22:45] <reisio> and then you'll wish you'd not used it even more
[22:46] <hastiko_> reisio: what do you think about that? the "/" ?
[22:46] <[Saint]> In what fashion do you believe that a mirrored RAID won't provide any degree of protection?
[22:46] <reisio> hastiko_: I think if you look in Mac OS, it should be apparent
[22:46] <seto> well ill likely be tossing this chrome book in the trash can
[22:46] <[Saint]> It is quite literally two exact mirrors of the same disk.
[22:46] <reisio> seto: it's probably fine
[22:46] <[Saint]> For it to provide zero value here, you'd need to lose both at once.
[22:46] <seto> i do not see any reliable way to make a bootable kubuntu thumb drive from debian
[22:46] <hastiko_> reisio:  on osx the / is fine in a file name...but xubutu says its not...so is that why they show up as weird charachters in linux?
[22:46] <[Saint]> Which is pretty bloody unlikely.
[22:46] <reisio> seto: use dd, then
[22:46] <seto> how ?
[22:46] <irwiss> imo it's not *that* unlikely if they come from same batch
[22:47] <reisio> hastiko_: on Mac OS you have 'bootcamp drivers 6/2014' ?
[22:47] <reisio> seto: find the device name with sudo lsblk -f
[22:47] <Jordan_U> hastiko_: No, OSX does not allow '/' in a filename. No *NIX possibly could.
[22:47] <hastiko_> reisio: yes
[22:47] <[Saint]> Now, I am not looking at this to preserve data - don't get me wrong, OP should have multiple on and offsite backups.
[22:47] <reisio> seto: be sure it's the right one
[22:47] <irwiss> besides, power surge/house fire/emp/etc and they're both cooked :)
[22:47] <reisio> hastiko_: is it an ordinary '/', or a fancy one?
[22:47] <hastiko_> Jordan_U: but I have files and folders with a / in them on osx and the external HDD and they display on OSX as a /
[22:47] <hastiko_> normal
[22:48] <hastiko_> i often named things with dates like 29/5 etc
[22:48] <[Saint]> I'm just looking at this with a mind to "if one disk fails the server is still (probably) up and will (probably) remain so until you can rectify it (preferably very quickly)".
[22:48] <seto> so like sda1 etc?
[22:48] <reisio> hastiko_: so is this data copied from Mac OS onto this FAT system?
[22:48] <[Saint]> I'm certainly not advocating RAID1 as a replacement for sane backup practice.
[22:48] <hastiko_> "2016/3 Records" etc
[22:48] <hastiko_> reisio: yes
[22:48] <reisio> seto: right, only sda1 specifically is probably not your usb stick
[22:48] <irwiss> if the server is SO important may be just use a load balancer? it wouldn't be that much more expensive
[22:48] <seto> actually it is lol
[22:49] <[Saint]> irwiss: that is a fair point.
[22:49] <hastiko_> these were two manual backup HDDs I formatted in FAT 32 and copied media and documents to
[22:49] <reisio> seto: what's your root/install, then?
[22:49] <hastiko_> they aren't system backups just folders and files
[22:49] <reisio> hastiko_: with what, Mac OS's file manager?
[22:50] <seto> mc something or other
[22:50] <Jordan_U> hastiko_: http://www.informit.com/articles/article.aspx?p=1144082&seqNum=5
[22:50] <seto> it reads like a sd card
[22:50] <reisio> seto: mm, okay, well if you're sure
[22:50] <hastiko_> reisio: I guess? I formatted the drives in OSX and copied the media and documents manually
[22:50] <irwiss> [Saint]: i'm happily running raid0 on 2 ssds for 3 years now which is already a year over my "wanted" mtbf, worst case i get bummed from about 2 hours of work and spend half an hour twiddling thumbs waiting for rsync to bring my stuff back :p
[22:50] <reisio> seto: sudo dd if=path/to/install/image of=/dev/sda
[22:50] <reisio> hastiko_: okay
[22:51] <hastiko_> Jordan_U: that must be the issue eh? But its weird the / displays fine in OSX since you say it shouldnt
[22:51] <reisio> hastiko_: let's look at this a different way
[22:51] <seto> so image is the iso obviously
[22:51] <reisio> hastiko_: run this: sudo umount /mnt/test
[22:51] <reisio> hastiko_: then mount it from the file manager again
[22:51] <hastiko_> just plug in and mount normally?
[22:51] <Jordan_U> hastiko_: Try using "ls" or "stat" on such a file.
[22:52] <reisio> hastiko_: open a terminal from the mounted dir and run this: find . -iname '' (<- copy & paste all this)
[22:52] <hastiko_> i had put drive away....just plug it in and let it automount?
[22:52] <reisio> hastiko_: oops, I mean -iname '**'
[22:52] <reisio> hastiko_: yes
[22:52] <Jordan_U> hastiko_: Or, as they suggest in that article, try running "touch ~/Desktop/foo:bar" and see a file that looks like it's named "foo/bar" appear on your graphcial desktop.
[22:53] <hastiko_> getting too many things to do sorry...what should I do first reisio or jordans?
[22:53] <reisio> doesn't matter
[22:53] <hastiko_> reisio: i dont know how to open a terminal from the mounted HDD
[22:53] <piotsze> hi, does anyone know maybe why ubuntu is not always detecting wwan 3g modem after startup (login)?
[22:54] <reisio> hastiko_: you can probably right click on any directory in the mounted FS and open terminal here
[22:54] <reisio> hastiko_: or note the path at top of the file manager, and cd to that manually
[22:54] <hastiko_> ok opened terminal from the folder the bootcamp file is in
[22:54] <Jordan_U> hastiko_: My commands just demonstrate that an OSX file can't actually contain "/" in it, if you believe me (or the article I linked to) then you don't need to try my commands as they just demonstrate that fact.
[22:55] <hastiko_> Jordan_U: i am not doubting it says that...but nevertheless I have files on OSX with a / in them
[22:55] <ubuntu481> is there a good way to get rid of screen tear?
[22:55] <hastiko_> so reisio what do I do now? terminal open
[22:55] <ubuntu481> I have an intel hd 530, and a gtx 1080
[22:55] <Cyber_Akuma> vsync?
[22:55] <pradeep> piotsze: funny enough you might to install the driver by downloading to from their site
[22:55] <hastiko_> do the find -iname '**' ?
[22:56] <Cyber_Akuma> Or gsync if your monitor supports it
[22:56] <pradeep> or you install wvdial
[22:56] <reisio> **
[22:56] <reisio> hastiko_: yes
[22:56] <ubuntu481> I tried using compton
[22:56] <hastiko_> it says -iname command not found
[22:56] <reisio> hastiko_: find . -iname '**'
[22:56] <ubuntu481> with a bunch of different vsync options
[22:56] <Cyber_Akuma> usually it's an in-game option
[22:56] <scythefwd> evenin folks, got a generic linux answer..
[22:56] <Cyber_Akuma> Though you can force it through the drivers I think
[22:57] <hastiko_> reisio: it shows the files in that folder with the weird yeti head character still
[22:57] <ubuntu481> The screen tear is really bad when I'm scrolling pages
[22:57] <ubuntu481> in firefox
[22:57] <Cyber_Akuma> oh
[22:57] <reisio> hastiko_: is that the top-most directory on the drive?
[22:57] <scythefwd> I'm about to attempt to install ubuntu 16.04..  been a LONG time since I was a *nix user
[22:57] <hastiko_> reisio: I don;t know
[22:57] <scythefwd> hows the nvidia support?
[22:57] <ubuntu481> I have the drivers installed
[22:58] <ubuntu481> they seem alright
[22:58] <reisio> scythefwd: proprietary support is the same (fine), the open source driver is always improving
[22:58] <Jordan_U> hastiko_: No, you have files on OSX that OSX's GUI displays as having a '/' in them. OSX's terminal will tell you the truth that a ':' is actualy used. Any program trying to open the file will see the name as having a ':' in it, and yes any other OS will (correctly) display the filename as having a ':' in it.
[22:58] <Cyber_Akuma> Pretty good, just remember that ti will default to the open source drivers, and you will have to switch to nvidia's propitery one
[22:58] <ubuntu481> ah
[22:58] <reisio> you won't have to, no
[22:58] <reisio> the open source drivers are superior for many situations
[22:58] <scythefwd> last time I had to install the nvidia proprietary drivers.. it was with a .sh script, that still the same?
[22:58] <ubuntu481> there's a ppa now
[22:58] <scythefwd> or is it doen via package manager now?
[22:59] <reisio> scythefwd: the ubuntu way does not involve that, but you can do that if you want
[22:59] <Cyber_Akuma> Nah, it's just a button now in the new repo configuration app
[22:59] <scythefwd> awesome.. ppa's are so much better lol
[22:59] <ubuntu481> yep, its an official ppa too. pretty awesome
[22:59] <reisio> hastiko_: what's 'pwd' say?
[22:59] <piotsze> pradeep: HP un2430 which is actually the gobi 3000, drivers are already installed in /lib/firmware/hp  "amss.mbn" "uqcn.mbn"
[22:59] <hastiko_> reisio: this is what my terminal shows now https://paste.ubuntu.com/16822836/
[22:59] <scythefwd> last I touched it was hoary..
[22:59] <Mr-K> guys, what's the thing with the new extension for scopes in ubuntu?
[22:59] <Mr-K> would you deprecate .deb files?
[22:59] <reisio> hastiko_: okay, run 'cd ../../' and then 'pwd' should say you're at BACKUP HD01/
[23:00] <hastiko_> media/toshibalaptop/BACKUP HD01/Documents/Tech toshibalaptop@toshibalaptop:/media/toshibalaptop/BACKUP HD01/Documents/Tech$
[23:00] <Cyber_Akuma> I remember trying to get an outdated AMD card for a laptop running in Ubuntu back in 2008 or 2009 or so...... the horror... the horror....
[23:00] <hastiko_> this was what 'pwd' said
[23:00] <reisio> hastiko_: then run this: find . -iname '**' | wc -l
[23:00] <scythefwd> ok, chromium use chrome extensions ok?  specifically google cast and adblock?
[23:00] <reisio> scythefwd: yes
[23:00] <hastiko_> reisio: toshibalaptop@toshibalaptop:/media/toshibalaptop/BACKUP HD01/Documents/Tech$
[23:00] <scythefwd> its jsut a fully foss fork of chrome yes? or was it cleanroomed?
[23:00] <reisio> hastiko_: run this: cd ../../
[23:01] <reisio> scythefwd: chrome is built by taking chromium and adding proprietary bits
[23:01] <reisio> not the other way around
[23:01] <hastiko_> Jordan_U: so if I understand you right I put a / i the name but its not an actual /? and this is the issue all along? if its really a : why cant linux show it as a :?
[23:01] <scythefwd> make sense
[23:01] <reisio> it does, kinda
[23:02] <hastiko_> reisio: toshibalaptop@toshibalaptop:/media/toshibalaptop/BACKUP HD01$
[23:02] <reisio> hastiko_: okay, that's the top level of your drive
[23:02] <reisio> hastiko_: now run this: find . -iname '**' | wc -l
[23:02] <scythefwd> same relationship is rhel and centos, but it starts foss and goes proprietary then vs going fully open
[23:02] <seto> well i think dd is working lol
[23:02] <FoolishDave> anyone down to help me figure out why I can't get ubuntu 16 dual booting on an MSI GS60 Ghost Pro 4k?
[23:02] <reisio> scythefwd: close to that, sure
[23:02] <seto> my drive is flashing so thats a good sign
[23:02] <Jordan_U> hastiko_: I think that the character that you are having a problem with is '.' from the examples you've given, not '/' so I think the '/' vs ':' is unrelated.
[23:02] <reisio> seto: yeah old dd doesn't have useful progress output
[23:03] <scythefwd> appreciate it..
[23:03] <seto> now heres a question
[23:03] <reisio> seto: if you want you can open another term and run this: while true; do kill -USR1 $(pgrep -x dd); sleep 10s; done
[23:03] <seto> i strip out lots of stuff i do not use
[23:03] <dbz2k> does someone know a way to save an old kernel from getting removed from sudo apt-get autoremove?
[23:03] <reisio> seto: and that'll show progress on /the original term/
[23:03] <reisio> scythefwd: you can use chrome, too, but it'll be an inferior experience
[23:03] <seto> is there a way i could script it with say apt-get remove lines to remove all the stuff i do not want?
[23:03] <scythefwd> I'm not to particularly worried about a light weight wdm.. but hated the unity ui, do they have a vanilla kde, gnome?
[23:04] <reisio> scythefwd: yes
[23:04] <hastiko_> Jordan_U: i have confirmed its always a / that does this as I looked in the folders where i used a lot of dates
[23:04] <reisio> scythefwd: you can install a version of Ubuntu preconfigured to use either of those (and some others), or switch after installation
[23:04] <scythefwd> I know.. all beginner questions..
[23:04] <Jordan_U> hastiko_: Interesting.
[23:04] <reisio> scythefwd: :)
[23:04] <hastiko_> its always in something like 6/2004 and the / is altered to the weird thing
[23:04] <reisio> scythefwd: did you want ordinary GNOME? Keep in mind that GNOME 3 is actually not that different from Unity
[23:05] <reisio> Unity being mostly GNOME 3, with small changes
[23:05] <scythefwd> I know kde and gnome were the defautls at one time..
[23:05] <hastiko_> see what I mean? I am a magnet for bizarre stuff like this...makes me so frustrated trying to sort things
[23:05] <scythefwd> well kde it is then :D
[23:05] <hastiko_> reisio: toshibalaptop@toshibalaptop:/media/toshibalaptop/BACKUP HD01$  was output of last command
[23:05] <scythefwd> always thought unity would be great on a touchscreen, crap on a mouse/kb setup
[23:05] <reisio> scythefwd: okay, so you could install from a Kubuntu image and save yourself a trivial amount of reconfiguration later
[23:05] <reisio> hastiko_: should've spat out a number
[23:05] <reisio> hastiko_: toshiba...$ is just your prompt
[23:06] <seto> of the DEs kde is the most mature i would say
[23:06] <reisio> hastiko_: it's always present when your shell is ready for input
[23:06] <hastiko_> reisio: tell me again what to type then? maybe I did it wrong
[23:06] <Jordan_U> hastiko_: How does the filename show in the output from "ls" on OSX?
[23:06] <seto> all the clients who i have that made the jump to linux love kde plasma
[23:06] <reisio> hastiko_: find . -iname '**' | wc -l
[23:06] <scythefwd> if thats as simple as a sudu su - && apt-get update && apt-get install kde && apt-get remove gnome.. I should be ok
[23:06] <Jordan_U> hastiko_: (Finish working with reisio before you answer my question though :)
[23:06] <hastiko_> Jordan_U: I don't have access to osx right now...that laptop is messed up
[23:06] <reisio> seto: most like Windows, anyway
[23:06] <meloc> This is beyond obnoxious: https://help.ubuntu.com/community/ReportingBugs
[23:06] <seto> well kde plasma is the most windows like
[23:07] <meloc> I'm not on a Desktop and the application isn't crashing in a way I can capture.
[23:07] <reisio> scythefwd: I wouldn't say it's that simple, but close to it
[23:07] <meloc> how do I just file a bug already?
[23:07] <seto> so it makes the change over pretty easy
[23:07] <reisio> scythefwd: you will save time installing from Kubuntu, if you want KDE, but it's not a huge deal
[23:07] <seto> any one who does not do gaming or 3d art has no need for windows mostly
[23:07] <scythefwd> lol.. I'm not against other type environments.. I do know windows fairly well.. but I've used a couple others
[23:07] <hastiko_> reisio: toshibalaptop@toshibalaptop:/media/toshibalaptop/BACKUP HD01$
[23:07] <seto> libre office or apache office replace ms office perfectly
[23:07] <scythefwd> my gaming that I do was developed on linux..
[23:07] <reisio> scythefwd: you can always change later, but no harm choosing one for starting with
[23:07] <seto> they both read write etc ms office formats with out flaws
[23:07] <scythefwd> seto.. no where near on that one
[23:07] <reisio> hastiko_: toshiba...$ is just your prompt
[23:07] <reisio> hastiko_: it's always present when your shell is ready for input
[23:08] <scythefwd> they're great for the home user for sure
[23:08] <hastiko_> you said that...but thats what the command you gave me spits out sory
[23:08] <reisio> hastiko_: there should be a number between the previous prompt and the last one
[23:08] <scythefwd> but put a power user behind ms vs. libre, and you'll see the differences come out (a master of both that is)
[23:08] <seto> brb to try and boot kubuntu
[23:08] <reisio> not sure you can be a power user and use Windows :p
[23:09] <hastiko_> maybe I am running it from the wrong place...can we back up?
[23:09] <reisio> hastiko_: what's 'pwd' say?
[23:09] <scythefwd> while cute reisio.. I've ran full blown hypervisors that took up 225mb installed that were windows
[23:09] <hastiko_> hdd is mounted....i went in file manager to a folder that contains the bootcamp file with the odd charachter and right clicked on that parent folder to open terminal
[23:09] <scythefwd> but I'm not gonna get into a tit for tat.. both very much have their advantages
[23:09] <reisio> scythefwd: not sure what that's supposed to mean
[23:10] <reisio> hastiko_: what's 'pwd' say?
[23:10] <hastiko_> reisio: "/media/toshibalaptop/BACKUP HD01 toshibalaptop@toshibalaptop:/media/toshibalaptop/BACKUP HD01$ "
[23:10] <TGVoid> reisio: Do you know the most efficient cluster value for ddrescue?
[23:10] <scythefwd> the power user thing.. just saying the windows environment isn't as stunted as a lot of folks think
[23:11] <angel1604> excuse to prevent the laptop overheats there is something for ubuntu?
[23:11] <reisio> hastiko_: find . -iname '*bootcamp*driver*'
[23:11] <reisio> TGVoid: nope
[23:12] <reisio> scythefwd: because it has a hypervisor? :) let's not talk about this :D
[23:12] <reisio> angel1604: that's kind of up to the hardware manaufacturer
[23:12] <Jordan_U> TGVoid: First, be sure you're using GNU ddrescue. It should start with the fastest block size automatically.
[23:12] <HackerII> i used hyperion, eeww
[23:12] <hastiko_> reisio: ./Documents/Tech/Bootcamp Drivers 62014 toshibalaptop@toshibalaptop:/media/toshibalaptop/BACKUP HD01$  except the FO22 box shows the yeti head instead in terminal...it just wont paste here as that
[23:12] <scythefwd> ok, there any usb 3 addin pci-e cards that are good supported in ubuntu ?  I'm expecting there is, just want to verify brand.. been burned a long time ago (90's) with HW support
[23:12] <scythefwd> scarred I'd say lol
[23:12] <reisio> hastiko_: okay
[23:12] <reisio> hastiko_: paste it in here anyway
[23:12] <hastiko_> Jordan_U: i checked all files I know with the yeti symbol and they are all /
[23:12] <reisio> hastiko_: between quotation marks
[23:13] <hastiko_> I did above
[23:13] <hastiko_> just noting that it didnt display as FO22 in terminal
[23:13] <reisio> hastiko_: okay
[23:13] <hastiko_> reisio: ./Documents/Tech/Bootcamp Drivers 62014 toshibalaptop@toshibalaptop:/media/toshibalaptop/BACKUP HD01$
[23:13] <reisio> hastiko_: and this reports nothing? find . -type f -iname '**' | wc -l
[23:13] <hastiko_> its always a / that does it
[23:14] <reisio> hastiko_: excuse me
[23:14] <reisio> hastiko_: and this reports nothing? find . -iname '**' | wc -l
[23:14] <hastiko_> reisio: 185 toshibalaptop@toshibalaptop:/media/toshibalaptop/BACKUP HD01$
[23:14] <reisio> without -type f
[23:14] <TGVoid> Jordan_U: Thanks. I'll change the value to default.
[23:14] <reisio> hastiko_: the toshiba...$ is just your prompt, it has nothing to do with the commands run
[23:15] <hastiko_> reisio: 190 toshibalaptop@toshibalaptop:/media/toshibalaptop/BACKUP HD01$
[23:15] <Jordan_U> TGVoid: You're welcome.
[23:15] <reisio> if you run a command and only get a new prompt, then there was nothing returned
[23:15] <reisio> you can say 'nothing'
[23:15] <reisio> hastiko_: oh okay, 185, 190
[23:15] <hastiko_> reisio: you keep saying that but I am just posting what is output...ok
[23:15]  * reisio laughs
[23:15] <angel1604> reisio, my cpu  is ivy brigdge is 56-60 c
[23:15] <reisio> hastiko_: okay, so there are only about 190 of these files
[23:15] <reisio> hastiko_: you might just fix them manually and get on with your day
[23:15] <angel1604> is normal?
[23:15] <hastiko_> I am just jumping like a monkey and doind what you say...no idea what I am actually doing sorry
[23:16] <reisio> angel1604: which model?
[23:16] <hastiko_> ok
[23:16] <hastiko_> so we figured out its the /
[23:16] <scythefwd> yes reisio, I'm running windows atm.. no need to version me lol
[23:16] <angel1604> hp probook 4540s
[23:16] <hastiko_> and that unix doesnt let / in file or directory names right?
[23:16] <dbz2k> anyone know to how to keep old kernels?
[23:16] <dbz2k> from getting removed from sudo apt-get autoclean
[23:16] <scythefwd> copy them off as a .bak before you autoclean?
[23:16] <Jordan_U> hastiko_: Correct.
[23:17] <TJ_> Hey guys. Got a pretty big problem on my friend's machine.
[23:17] <hastiko_> good lord....all that because I used a / and shouldnt have
[23:17] <dbz2k> scythefwd, doesn
[23:17] <dbz2k> scythefwd, I thought autoclean removes the package?
[23:17] <hastiko_> Jordan_U: why do you think OSX woudn;t warn me or not allow that?
[23:17] <dbz2k> or is it just cache
[23:18] <hastiko_> and why would linux turn it into some bizarre yeti looking symbol
[23:18] <crs___> can you have ':' in a filename on fat32 ? maybe thats why its this strange 'yeti head' now
[23:18] <scythefwd> if you copy the kernel off before you autoclean.. it doesnt remove the copy
[23:18] <SchrodingersScat> !man | dbz2k
[23:18] <reisio> scythefwd: no reason to tell me that, I version'd you :p
[23:18] <hastiko_> crs___: so I put a / and OSX makes it a : and linux makes that a yeti?
[23:18] <scythefwd> I know :D
[23:18] <Jordan_U> hastiko_: I'm honestly surprised that it didn't warn you when you tried to create such a filename.
[23:18] <Bashing-om> TJ_: Has my attention .
[23:18] <reisio> hastiko_: this command should replace the strange chars with hyphens: find . -iname '**' | while IFS='' read -r line; do mv -n "$line" "$(echo "$line" | sed 's//-/g')"; done
[23:18] <hastiko_> Jordan_U: yeah it never did and I used the / a ton in dates
[23:19] <reisio> Jordan_U: some HFS+ concession?
[23:19] <SchrodingersScat> !ask | Dachi
[23:19] <hastiko_> reisio I have to go for a bit...will savethis command and try later...do I use the whole thing? done is included or you were saying "done"
[23:20] <reisio> hastiko_: everything after 'with hyphens: '
[23:20] <hastiko_> so the ; done included then ok
[23:20] <reisio> yup
[23:21] <scythefwd> any hw guru's?
[23:21] <hastiko_> reisio: can that be run from any level or it needs to be in a terminal opened from the HDD?
[23:22] <reisio> hastiko_: you'd want to run it from the top dir of the drive
[23:22] <reisio> hastiko_: from /media/toshibalaptop/BACKUP HD01/
[23:22] <hastiko_> so I need to open a terminal in the drive like before...not a normal system terminal
[23:22] <hastiko_> ok
[23:22] <hastiko_> so cd to that and then add the command right?
[23:22] <reisio> you can open a terminal anywhere and run 'cd /media/toshibalaptop/[TABKEY]'
[23:22] <reisio> right
[23:23] <hastiko_> ok
[23:23] <scythefwd> well, lets see how this install goes lol..
[23:23] <hastiko_> will do it in a bit when I come back....
[23:23] <hastiko_> so I am pretty broke but if I made a small donation to something as a thank you where would you want me to?
[23:23] <Jordan_U> hastiko_: reisio: I just grabbed a machine with OSX and indeed it did let me create "foo/bar" in the GUI, and indeed it did let me created it, and inded "ls" from OSX shows the file is actually named "foo:bar". I don't know why the files aren't just showing up as ':' in Ubuntu.
[23:24] <hastiko_> Jordan_U: maybe we can get a bounty from apple for finding this eh? ;)
[23:24] <crs___> i repeat: maybe because you cant have : in a fat32 filename ?
[23:24] <reisio> Jordan_U: try copying them with Mac OS's file manager to a fat32 system
[23:25] <hastiko_> crs___: are you saying that you cannot? or surmising?
[23:25] <SchrodingersScat> yeti's, all of them
[23:25] <reisio> probably, as with NTFS & Windows, the filesystem supports more than the file manager does
[23:25] <crs___> i dont know but wikipedia says it is a reserved character. cant test right now
[23:26] <reisio> SchrodingersScat: twss
[23:26] <scythefwd> making a bootable usb stick.. suggestions?
[23:26] <SchrodingersScat> !liveusb | scythefwd
[23:26] <Jordan_U> crs___: https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Comparison_of_file_systems says that fat32 supports any Unicode except Null. Where are you seeing ':' not being allowed?
[23:26] <reisio> scythefwd: Kubuntu, unetbootin?
[23:26] <hastiko_> ok I have to run for a bit...thanks for taking the time....
[23:27] <SchrodingersScat> scythefwd: xubuntu, dd
[23:27] <hastiko_> reisio: do you have a charity or project you want a donation sent to?
[23:27] <hastiko_> cant afford much..after all I am on a 10yo laptop...but you spent a long time on it
[23:27] <crs___> there is a comparison table on the 'Filename' article
[23:27] <reisio> no, thanks that's okay
[23:27] <Jordan_U> hastiko_: I have an OSX systemd for the moment, once I find a USB drive I will test this myself. Please do come back and maybe the mystery will be solved (but probably not:).
[23:27] <SchrodingersScat> plant a tree?
[23:27] <OerHeks> !cookie reisio
[23:27] <crs___> https://en.m.wikipedia.org/wiki/Filename
[23:28] <Amm0n> scythefwd, grub2: https://wiki.archlinux.org/index.php/Multiboot_USB_drive
[23:28] <SchrodingersScat> !botsnack | reisio
[23:28] <hastiko_> thanks guys...if you change your mind about donation let me know...you spent half a day on this
[23:28] <hastiko_> be back later
[23:28] <scythefwd> lol.. shrodinger, that would r equire I install xubuntu on a system.. right now  I'm windows and osx purely
[23:28] <SchrodingersScat> scythefwd: osx may have dd?
[23:29] <scythefwd> lol.. I'm gonna try out a utility called rufus
[23:29] <scythefwd> supposeldy makes the disk with a mbt / uefi compatable table before writing your iso's to them..
[23:30] <anonymous_> why i cant send menssage to chanel #ubuntu-es?
[23:30] <Sebastien> scythefwd unetbootin is still my favorite for this task.
[23:30] <scythefwd> if that doesnt work, I'll spin up a ubuntu virtual pc and go from there
[23:30] <Sebastien> anonymous_ you need a registered nickname and be auth to it. see: /msg nickserv help register
[23:31] <FoolishDave> So I'm trying to install ubuntu 16.04 alongside windows 10 on my MSI GS60, I got it installed, but windows 10 still boots without me getting to choose to go into ubuntu. Do I need to hold a key to get into grub?
[23:31] <extinct_potato> Are you sure you installed GRUB on the correct partition?
[23:32] <scythefwd> write grup to your mbt, then have it pointing to windows for that selection
[23:32] <Jordan_U> FoolishDave: You shouldn't need to. Please boot from an Ubuntu LiveUSB and pastebin the output of "efibootmgr".
[23:32] <scythefwd> or if you're doing efi.. do you install on first partition
[23:32] <FoolishDave> I have issues booting into the LiveUSB, when it gets to desktop no panels show up and I can't get anything to happen
[23:33] <Jordan_U> FoolishDave: How did you install Ubuntu then?
[23:33] <FoolishDave> oh, I guess I still used the liveusb, I can't just get to the "try ubuntu" part
[23:34] <FoolishDave> I used the "Install Ubuntu" option
[23:34] <Jordan_U> FoolishDave: OK. Just so you know, even after we fix the problem of Ubuntu not booting, you'll probably get the same problem with the installed Desktop as you had with the "Try Ubuntu" option. Can you boot from an Xubuntu LiveUSB?
[23:35] <FoolishDave> I haven't tried Xubuntu, I'll do that now
[23:36] <scythefwd> hrm.. well that was a nogo
[23:37] <newguyubuntu> hello, i am having trouble with the eclipse-pydev package and was wondering if anyone could provide some assistance
[23:37] <newguyubuntu> ubuntu 16.04 LTS
[23:38] <newguyubuntu> i installed the eclipse-pydev package without issues i let it install everything it asked for, but when i open eclipse pydev is no where to be found
[23:39] <newguyubuntu> anyone here have axperiance with the eclipse-pydev package on ubuntu 16.04 LTS?
[23:40] <scythefwd> looks like I need a new mobo or proc..
[23:40] <scythefwd> or very possibly both..
[23:40] <newguyubuntu> that sux
[23:40] <newguyubuntu> whats going on?
[23:40] <Bashing-om> !patience | newguyubuntu
[23:42] <Guest97362> i've downloaded a source package from repos
[23:42] <Dagda> Bashing-om: I made a post describing my issue on the forums. I was able to find some related issues but no solution that I can make sense of. If you want to follow the thread you can find it here: http://ubuntuforums.org/showthread.php?t=2326223&p=13496734#post13496734
[23:42] <Guest97362> dsc, orig.tar.xz and debian,tar.xz
[23:42] <scythefwd> random reboots after running for a few moments new
[23:42] <Guest97362> and i've mdofied  thisprogram with some patches     "and i've added to /debian/patches folder and series file
[23:43] <Dagda> Bashing-om: thanks again for your help.
[23:43] <Bashing-om> Dagda: :) .. K .. will join you there .
[23:43] <Guest97362> but    i  need  create tehe source package again  "oring and debian"
[23:43] <Guest97362> How can i make it? "total newbie about packagin
[23:44] <anonymous_> hola
[23:46] <Bashing-om> Dagda: Now that is a good post ! Now we again await a reply .
[23:47] <anonymous__> ok but how i can logg in in a chanel?
[23:47] <[Saint]> anonymous__: sorry, what?
[23:47] <Dagda> Bashing-om: The only thing that might give you more insight is the last link I posted, but it's a UNIX thread. I'm not sure if it's even the same issue. I seem to recall that I still received the warnings about lvmetad when I could still login and had no issues. I suspect it's an issue with the LUKS greeter but I've no idea how to troubleshoot that.
[23:48] <[Saint]> anonymous__: do you perhaps mean, this"
[23:48] <[Saint]> https://freenode.net/kb/answer/registration
[23:48] <Dagda> Bashing-om: Indeed. I'm going to go and rest my brain for a while. Thanks again :-D
[23:48] <anonymous__> i register in ubuntu-es but i dont know how logg with mi usename
[23:48] <[Saint]> s/"/?/g
[23:48] <[Saint]> anonymous__: see the provided url please
[23:49] <Bashing-om> Dagda: Have a good one ,, I would say that I wish I knew ,, but that would be a lie as I do not want to know encryption .
[23:49] <anonymous__> yes i see
[23:51] <anonymous__> i cant
[23:52] <Dagda> Bashing-om: You're obviously too nice a person to have any adversaries ;-) Take care.
[23:52] <[Saint]> anonymous__: nickerv tells me you managed to do so 14 minutes ago.
[23:52] <[Saint]> anonymous__: either way, general IRC support should be handled at #freenode
[23:53] <[Saint]> none of this is Ubuntu-specific.
[23:53] <[Saint]> Errr...sorry, 4 minutes, not 14.
[23:53] <letssee> hi everyone. I moving files between my two external drives, Suddendly got an error message. 10GB of family pictures being moced just went missing.Disapeared from source and target
[23:53] <[Saint]> You registered 14 minutes ago, you touched that account 4 minutes ago.
[23:53] <letssee> pls  help
[23:54] <anonymous_> u dont speak spanish?
[23:54] <letssee> any command or app to solve this problem? thanks a lot
[23:54] <[Saint]> anonymous__: I do, but, not here I don't.
[23:55] <anonymous__> i can? speak spanish one moment?
[23:55] <[Saint]> Not here, no.
[23:55] <anonymous__> okey go ubuntu-es-cafe?
[23:56] <[Saint]> letssee: whatever you do end up doing it is pretty important to remove those drives from the system to ensure they don't get written to.
[23:56] <[Saint]> you don't want to write over any data there is a chance of recovering.
[23:56] <letssee> cool
[23:56] <letssee> thanks Saint
[23:56] <letssee> so should I remove them?
[23:57] <Bashing-om> letssee: Be aware, so long as you do not write to those hard drives, your files are still there .. getting them night be a trickm; See: https://help.ubuntu.com/community/DataRecovery .
[23:57] <[Saint]> Unmount them for the meantime, Then you might want to consider taking a look at PhotoRec.
[23:57] <letssee> and which drive should I try to get the moved files from? The source or the destination drive?
[23:58] <anonymous__> my problem is i cant chat to ubuntu-es im registered in freenode but i cant
[23:58] <letssee> PhotoRec? ok, great
[23:58] <[Saint]> just curious - is there any reason you elected to move, instead of copy?
[23:58] <[Saint]> That was kinda ballsy on your part.
[23:58] <[Saint]> Can I say 'ballsy', errr...courageous?
[23:58] <seto> well back on kubuntu 16.04 and ev thing working
[23:58] <[Saint]> Yeah, that'll do.
[23:59] <seto> maybe in another 10 years debian will be where ubuntu is now ....
[23:59] <[Saint]> I hope not.
[23:59] <letssee> yes,I decided to move to cleanup the source
[23:59] <letssee> I thought about copuing themfirst