[04:05] <Researcher-> hi
[04:05] <Researcher-> good morning
[07:37] <pavlushka> Hello Researcher !
[08:37] <elacheche> Hey!
[08:37] <Kilos> hi elacheche
[10:49] <Researcher-> hi
[10:49] <Researcher-> :)
[10:49] <Kilos> hi Researcher-
[10:50] <Researcher-> yo man
[10:50] <Researcher-> whats up and how it goes
[10:50] <Kilos> all ok here ty and there?
[10:52] <Researcher-> same bro
[10:52] <Researcher-> today i am trying to re cycle one old mac book pro
[10:52] <Researcher-> :)
[10:52] <Researcher-> MBP 2007
[10:52] <Kilos> hehe
[10:52] <Researcher-> between to be honest better then core i3
[10:52] <Researcher-> :D
[10:53] <Kilos> you using hackintosh
[10:55] <Researcher-> nope
[10:55] <Researcher-> actually i am going to hit interpid on it .
[10:55] <Researcher-> :)
[10:55] <Kilos> ah
[10:55] <Researcher-> i know interpid only works well with such model
[10:55] <Researcher-> :)
[10:56] <Researcher-> but right now you will surprise to see the desktop
[10:56] <Researcher-> almost all latest software i have installed including working openvpn on mac os x 10.6.8
[10:56] <Researcher-> which is un believeable for people using MBP 2015
[10:56] <Researcher-> :p
[10:56] <Kilos> keep it up
[10:59] <Researcher-> between
[10:59] <Researcher-> mac claim these are un supported
[10:59] <Researcher-> but i think they are still very useful
[10:59] <Researcher-> i am big fan of Darwin.. actually it is one of the true OS
[10:59] <Kilos> i enjoy playing with old pcs and making them work again
[11:00] <Researcher-> yeah i like this hobby too
[11:11] <Researcher-> wb kilos
[11:11] <Researcher-> :)
[11:26] <Kilos> ty
[11:28] <Researcher-> Kilos : you mission is critical :)
[11:28] <Researcher-> how i can help you ?
[11:29] <Kilos> we need to all get together and collect all relevant information and then i can take it to the council
[11:29] <Kilos> with all the facts from many people then things will be changed
[11:31] <Kilos> pavel is busy for a while but he has gathered some and i have some from other guys so its just filling in the gaps then we can move forward
[11:33] <Researcher-> between can you clarify with relevant information ?
[11:33] <Researcher-> what kind of statics you people are gathering
[11:33] <Researcher-> and do you have a strong access to counsil or you are just doing by believing in your fate
[11:33] <Researcher-> ?
[11:37] <Kilos> i need all the info about why locos are collapsing
[11:37] <Kilos> and the causes
[11:38] <Kilos> there can be no place for personall problems in a loco
[11:39] <Kilos> i am on the membership board and i am looking into reviving locos with the loco councils  approval because they are all busy
[11:44] <Researcher-> i can understand that
[11:45] <Researcher-> between
[11:46] <Kilos> elacheche is gonna help as well
[11:46] <Kilos> he also just got married
[11:46] <Researcher-> what is the bottom line... are you guys collecting the statics proposed reasons for  failures of loco team because i.e inactivity on IRC ... or you guys are here to find out the real cause ?
[11:47] <Researcher-> i am i am still confuse .. are you here to help us .. the users or loco team leaders or your own self ?
[11:48] <Kilos> inactivity on irc , not approving new members in the loco and not approving new guys to join the mailing lists etc
[11:49] <Kilos> i get nothing out of it except pleasure when a group gets going again as things should be
[11:49] <Kilos> i want to see locos all over working happily as teams
[11:51] <Kilos> i have been spoiled in #ubuntu-za . everyone is friendly to everyone else and helps wherever they can
[11:51] <Kilos> i would like to see all locos operating the same way
[11:55] <Kilos> this all started because one guy applied for ubuntu membership on his own with no support or guidance from his loco
[11:55] <Kilos> that is what i would like to solve
[12:00] <Kilos> oh just read scroll back, i want to know the real cause of course
[12:02] <Kilos> if the cause is poor admins then they need to move over and let someone else do the job
[12:07] <Researcher-> respect for your efforts
[12:07] <Researcher-> same happened in Pakistan too
[12:08] <Researcher-> no leader no proper guidence
[12:08] <Kilos> yes
[12:10] <Kilos> only if we all work together can we sort this out, even if we all attend a council meeting just to get the facts through
[12:12] <Researcher-> i agree you
[12:12] <Researcher-> participation is must ..
[12:12] <Researcher-> task management and activity monitoring is must to make the improvements.
[12:13] <Researcher-> so far i offered on facebook ubuntu loco teams that i will provide domain / hosting / vps even dedicated server for the ubuntu related or ubuntu oriented projects ..
[12:14] <Researcher-> and i found some queries but unfortunately those were not opensource.
[12:18] <Kilos> just do what you can, and invited pakistani people to join us here so we can grow the movement from here
[12:19] <Kilos> i have two other membership board members helping as well, but being working people their time is limitted
[12:32] <Researcher-> yes sure...
[12:32] <Researcher-> I am linked with a large pakistani comunity of I.T people here..
[12:32] <Researcher-> i offer free ubuntu related help via teamviewer
[12:33] <Kilos> cool
[12:33] <Kilos> great
[12:33] <Researcher-> also i recommend everyone.. to use ubuntu
[12:33] <Researcher-> for me now only ubuntu is too much handy
[12:33] <Kilos> see, thats the kind of spirit all ubuntu users should have
[12:34] <Researcher-> even if you check ubuntulog
[12:34] <Researcher-> you will see only my nick and my other nick shani here
[12:34] <Researcher-> i never left this channel even it was dead
[12:34] <Kilos> thanks for that
[12:35] <Kilos> now encourage others to come back here
[12:35] <Researcher-> no need for that ..
[12:35] <Researcher-> :)
[12:35] <Researcher-> yes but
[12:35] <Researcher-> i wanted to create few bot here..
[12:35] <Researcher-> ubuntu related bots
[12:36] <Researcher-> i wanted to link a bug tracker here ..
[12:36] <Researcher-> i want to add a protection bot
[12:36] <Researcher-> i want to have a loco team cloaks
[12:36] <Researcher-> i need few active people mission critical people who can spend time here like you and me doing
[12:37] <Researcher-> and obviously membership board is here itself .. so i think this is the best
[12:37] <Kilos> well, im not clued up with technical stuff but ill help where i can
[12:37] <Researcher-> yes sure
[12:38] <Researcher-> Kilos very basic is ubuntu-pk.org
[12:38] <Researcher-> i want to make it alive
[12:38] <Researcher-> how i can do that i need your guidence ..
[12:38] <Kilos> thats the whole plan yes
[12:39] <Researcher-> between I have lot of VPS all ubuntu based
[12:39] <Kilos> do you have admin rights on the channel?
[12:40] <Researcher-> i have a hobby that i test the low end boxses / low spec vps to see how new hosting companies are doing
[12:40] <Kilos> ok
[12:40] <Researcher-> even i ran my own hosting companies in the past
[12:40] <Researcher-> lebnodes.com
[12:40] <Researcher-> xsroute.com
[12:41] <Researcher-> and now my upcoming projects .. ivmcloud.com
[12:41] <Researcher-> but they are still not complete only mockups are uploaded
[12:42] <Researcher-> also some undeveloping projects like omanbuysell.com / shopnshake.com / jobvisagulf.com / hostnet.work
[12:42] <Researcher-> try to keep ITGuy alive inside me
[12:42] <Researcher-> :)
[12:42] <Kilos> :D
[12:44] <Kilos> encourage people to get involved
[12:44] <Researcher-> sure
[12:44] <Researcher-> :)