[13:08] FYI, I'm currently working on getting SSR (simple screen recorder) into debian [13:08] https://mentors.debian.net/package/simplescreenrecorder [13:08] if you want to have a look to it [13:09] Cool. Yes, we were looking at some alternatives earlier [13:09] We are going to change this cycle [13:10] We chose vokoscreen out of the current options in the repo [13:15] does it have JACK-audio ? [13:15] I though it was only ALSA or pulse, isn't ? [13:19] trebmuh: pulse only, yes. But, since we have the PA bridge, you can always use it with jack [13:19] A bit technical though, since it involves a lot of connection logic [13:19] yes [13:19] this is one the whys I'm using SSR : JACK-able screencast recorder [13:20] It does look that vokoscreen is targeted to DV camera and stuffs [13:20] so it does look to me that the purposes of the 2 are not the same [13:20] anyway, my incursion here was just to let you guys aware about this [13:21] feel free to test it if you want :) [13:21] one thing I like with SSR is it's pretty straight : the configuration wizard is pretty straightforward : clic, put the name of the output file, clic, select audio engine, clic, select vidéo and audio codecs, press Ctrl + R, do your stuff, press "save record", done [13:24] trebmuh: As soon as it is in the repo we should consider discuss adding it. You think it'll be in within the next 2-3 months? [13:25] hopefully, it's will be quicker that that :) [13:25] Debian import freeze is about 2 months before each release, so late Augus [13:27] the package is in a good state : it builds on unstable and I tested it on an debian unstable system as well. Works fine. I just have to look at a configure option and my "mentor" will do the job of uploading afterward (if I get correctly the packaging processs for debian since this is my first attempt to package for the *official* repo) [13:27] will let you know when it's done [13:28] Should be no problem as long as the licenses are ok, and it builds [13:28] yes the d/copyright is fine and lintian doesn't complain on it (anymore) [13:30] i'm rendring a video tutorial i just made with vokoscreen. really cool app. will try ssr sometime [13:31] speaking of which, zequence: weren't there some firewire controls in ubuntustudio-controls before? [13:32] i can control my DV-cam with dvgrab... but it is no longer detected as a webcam in 16.04 [13:32] sakrecoer: The firewire side was just to add you to the "video" user group, which was used for firewire at the time [13:32] These days, there are udev rules for devices [13:32] ..which means, you don't need to be in a group in order for the system to pass those through to users [13:33] yeah, dvgrab can run it out of the box... [13:33] but it used to be availble in webcam aware apps, even kdenlive... no more unfortunately.. [13:33] sakrecoer: A quick test is to run an app as root, and see if it recognizes your devices [13:33] oh! right!!! nice! [13:34] no luck... [13:34] So, a kernel problem of some kind [13:34] Perhaps an additional kernel package needs to be installed? [13:34] ..or, it is a regression with the driver of some kind [13:34] had no luck websearching... [13:35] I'm not on Ubuntu, but try looking for addition firmware or other similar linux packages in the repo [13:35] Could be something was split off [13:36] And, if all else fails, report a bug [13:36] addition firmware...? how do i do that? [13:37] apt-cache search firmware, or apt-cache search linux [13:37] thanks! [13:37] sakrecoer: Do you have other firewire devices on that system that works? [13:38] yes. the audio card [13:38] and the camera works with dvgrab [13:38] its just not detected as a.. well... webcam? [13:39] Ah, ok, now I understand. I was as usual not reading it well [13:41] I can't advice much, as I have very little experience with Cameras. Probably not very specific to Ubuntu though, more so to the kernel version [13:41] You could, if you want, try an older kernel on that system [13:41] well.. i foud a workarround :D [13:42] i use dvgrab in paralel to vokoscreen, with a dirty manual trick to synch :D [13:42] all because of my vanity "i need to be visible in this tutorial" :D [13:42] Ah, I use another application with an evil MS webcam, and vokoscreen. [13:43] Been working on a similar setup. [13:44] i did it like this: i set vokoscreen to record "window", then i pick the window i want, once vokoscreen is recording, i minimize the screen. since the camera also shows a bit of the screen, i synch that minimzation [13:44] ... in the video editor... [13:45] I will be using audio cues [13:45] Since what I do is mostly about audio [13:45] ok! cool! i did it on blender VSE.. [13:45] which reminds me: https://wiki.ubuntu.com/UbuntuStudio/Tutorials/ [13:45] I will probably need to use something else than Openshot when I edit. Haven't got to that point yet [13:45] to draft the tutorial :) [13:46] sakrecoer: I would put that in the help wiki instead [13:47] we don't have editing priviliedge there yet... [13:47] sakrecoer: Meaning https://help.ubuntu.com/community/UbuntuStudio/Tutorials [13:47] but i plan to copy it there once it is finished. the wiki part... [13:48] https://rt.ubuntu.com/Ticket/Display.html?id=28610 [13:48] wiki.ubuntu.com is only used for either development or sysadmin stuff, while help.ubuntu.com is better for how to's [13:48] I mean, user how to's [13:48] well, that link i just gave you is for developing tutorials :) [13:49] once they are writen, the idea is to copy them to help.ubuntu.com/UbuntuStudio... but atm we can't edit help.ubuntu [13:50] wiki.ubuntu.com is not a staging site though, so would be better to not publish it anywhere until it is finished [13:50] A how to on how to make tutorials would be best kept in wiki.ubuntu.com [13:50] But, not the tutorial itself [13:51] yeah, well again: we can't edit help.ubuntu atm, so... also, is it preferable to have half finished wiki pages on the user wiki? [13:51] i don't think so. but i might be wrong [13:52] Thing is, you can't delete pages on wiki.ubuntu.com [13:52] And, it's not meant to be a staging site for help.ubuntu.com [13:52] can you delete pages on help.ubuntu.com? [13:52] No [13:52] ok... [13:52] YOu can rename them [13:53] well... i can delete pages on wiki.ubuntu.com [13:53] hmm, maybe. Haven't seen that before, actually [13:54] yup, it worked :) [13:54] in the "more action" scroll own menu... [13:54] *down [13:55] Yes, I know where it is. Not sure it was there before. Going to check help.ubuntu.com [13:55] Even as a Ubuntu member, I don't seem to have edit rights there [13:56] :( [13:57] It might be better though to not use wiki.ubuntu.com as a staging site, as those pages will show in google searches quite quickly, and if a page is not ready it will just look weird [13:58] That said, there are plenty of pages we have in the wiki that should be deleted or fixed [13:58] Either they are outdated, or just false [13:58] so were do we stage wikipages? [13:59] Wherever you want. A text file in your HD, or some text in an email, or if you collaborate - you need to share it somehow [14:00] ok, that isn't stageing a wiki... at best, when inserting images, i would have to use libreoffice, rendering the work doubled... [14:00] i guess the best is to write it directly in help.ubuntu... [14:00] but its locked atm, so i think it is fine right now [14:00] Well, yes, when you do the actual formatting [14:03] sakrecoer: You should apply for Ubuntu membership already, I think. [14:04] You've been involved for enough time, and there's really no reason why you shouldn't be accepted at this point [14:04] :) i began writing my wiki-page.. [14:04] https://wiki.ubuntu.com/SetHallstrom [14:04] if you want to add a testimoial ... i'd be very <3 [14:05] Not sure if it is actually needed for anything, other than editing the wiki, now that I think about it [14:05] But, it's a sign of trust in some way [14:06] Actually, I'm trying to logout and login to the help wiki, but no luck. It's stuck [14:07] I remember when I started workin on the both wikis. I had the greates respect for how things were set up [14:07] ..until I realized there was no order [14:08] So, I was being very free in how I organized things [14:09] Took me quite some time to realize the structure that is now present, not that I was working on it night and day - more in short focused bursts [14:10] the help wiki has a funny cache thing to it. You need to do a cold refresh on your web reader in order to see new changes [14:10] Still no editing rights [14:17] :( [14:17] video is rendered, but the audio got terrible... interstingly, you can bounce just the audio from blender :) [17:12] what do you think? is this useable or just a confusing fragle? http://sakrecoer.com/ubuntustudio/blenderVSEtut_ubuntustudio.mp4 [17:14] sakrecoer: Didn't realize you spoke English with a French accent :) [17:17] sakrecoer: Seems like a nice introduction. The basic stuff [17:17] Just the kind of thing I will be doing as well, at first [17:17] How to start jack, how to select your device, how to just get your engine up and running [17:18] So, I won't be mixing the basic stuff with more focused stuff [17:18] The basic stuff will be very short, and very informational [17:19] :) sounds like a good plan! [17:20] It might be better to split things into to small parts. Just 2 min each witht he basic things [17:20] The kind of stuff you google, you know [17:20] But, when you do actual work, and it is about the experience of that, then it's more interesting to follow the whole thing, the vibe so to speak [17:20] yeah, might have merged 2 parts in there. a) setting blender up, b) basic editing [17:20] At the same time, I could do just 1-5 min about how to compress something [17:21] Right [17:21] Hard to resist being informational [17:22] good catch tho, it would be easy to divide it, since i actualy did a real cut... [17:23] at arround 05:55 [17:24] As an example, Oóne video could just be about how to set the audio for blender. [17:24] Cool spelling. Quite unintentional [17:24] :D [17:24] And, that don't need to be more than 10 sec [17:27] sakrecoer: In youtube you would have playlists to categorize the videos by what they are about [17:28] sakrecoer: In archive.org, maybe that is not as important. We just do it in our own site [17:28] yeah, that would be a good idea i reckon :) [17:28] yes :) [17:28] So, you have a category, but it is split into as many videos as you want. Each time you want to add a new detail, just make a new video [17:29] Of course, doesn't mean all videos should be 15 sec long. Some actually need to be a bit longer :) [17:29] Does help people find the exact thing that they want to learn though [17:30] If you think about it, it's quite clear where the boundaries for the human mind are with these things. Yet, hard to use that insight in practice at all times [17:31] hmm... odd... the video quality gets pretty bad at the end... wonder why that is... [17:31] oh, yes... its kindof difficult to get things simple and straight forward... [17:32] i mean, in practice :D [17:32] Harder than one would believe [17:33] yes for sure. at some point i had to stop thinking too much and just... do it. otherwise i would have been reshooting everything endlessly :D [17:35] sakrecoer: You do it very well. There's a nice flow to it [17:39] thank you :) glad to read that! [17:40] i will cut it in 2 tho, and i have to investigate the decreasing video quality... [21:02] autumna: how do i reset the wacom script? for some reason, the button on the pen is now the enter key-- [21:03] hmm... maybe it always was like that... the buttons work like expected in krita, gimp and blender... [21:17] autumna: maybe of interest? http://paste.ubuntu.com/16850264/ [21:17] i get the feeling i need to replace Head-0 with the name of my displays... [22:21] tried with this, but no luck...http://paste.ubuntu.com/16851905/ [22:22] my screens are of different resolutions... [22:22] and followed this: http://ubuntuforums.org/showthread.php?t=1656089 [23:00] ok, if i use "." instead of "," things gets better :D [23:00] i can enter the values manualy like this xinput --set-prop "Wacom Graphire Pen stylus" --type=float "Coordinate Transformation Matrix" 0.333333 0 0 0 0.948148 0 0 0 1 [23:01] but using the scripts will simply not affect xinput for some reason... [23:31] the matrix above hehe nope... this does work: xinput set-prop "Wacom Graphire Pen stylus" --type=float "Coordinate Transformation Matrix" 0.666666 0 0 0 1 0 0 0 1 [23:31] (for me that is) [23:33] so i did this: http://paste.ubuntu.com/16853652/ but no success... i'm sure ti will become obvious tomorrow! :D thanks for making me dig into this, its super fun!