| Batshua | Okay, I am trying to save my housemate’s computer. The installs go fine, but then the system boots into busybox | 01:33 |
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| Batshua | I’m not sure what’s wrong, and I’m not getting much in the way of errors, just … it won’t boot? | 01:33 |
| Batshua | Which is sorta the ultimate error. Or non-error. | 01:34 |
| Batshua | Or something. | 01:34 |
| swift110 | he yall | 01:35 |
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| Leptospire | Hey folks. I need some help setting up a home media server's network connection. When I connect to my router via wifi I get internet but no network. When I connect to my router via ethernet I get network but not wifi. Can anyone help me? I am running lubuntu. Linksys can't seem to help me. | 20:18 |
| tsimonq2 | Leptospire: #ubuntu would probably be the best place for that :) | 20:20 |
| Leptospire | tsimonq2: I will give it a shot | 20:21 |
| tsimonq2 | Leptospire: have a nice day :) | 20:21 |
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| Lugal | hi | 22:40 |
| Lugal | why cant I just deinstall some package from lubuntu, like abiword or sylpheed? why? | 22:40 |
| wxl | Lugal: you can. just do it. lubuntu-desktop is just an index file. | 22:43 |
| genii | Lugal: Remove lubuntu-desktop, then remove whatever subcomponent it installed that you don't want. | 22:45 |
| swift110 | ok | 22:45 |
| swift110 | i can put mate on lubuntu | 22:45 |
| wxl | swift110: if you want to get really freaky, you could put compiz and unity on there, too. | 22:46 |
| genii | heh | 22:46 |
| swift110 | yes | 22:46 |
| Lugal | but why the fck i just cant remove packages and keep lubuntu-desktop? | 22:50 |
| wxl | !language | Lugal | 22:50 |
| ubottu | Lugal: The main Ubuntu channels require that you speak in calm, polite English. For other languages, please visit https://wiki.ubuntu.com/IRC/ChannelList | 22:50 |
| Lugal | what is that a dependency? | 22:50 |
| Lugal | it was polite just wanted to be more precisely | 22:50 |
| wxl | Lugal: the word you used between the and i is not consider polite by many people. it is those people that we seek not to offend. | 22:51 |
| Lugal | ok sorry | 22:51 |
| Lugal | so why is lubuntu bound too all programms like mail client, abiword, pidgin, ....? why I cant customise my lubuntu? | 22:52 |
| wxl | Lugal: as we said, you can. all you have to do in order to do so is to remove the lubuntu-desktop index file. it will not actually remove any packages. | 22:53 |
| wxl | Lugal: even the description explains this. try `apt-cache show lubuntu-desktop | grep remove` | 22:53 |
| wxl | incidentially, this is how ALL metapackages work. | 22:53 |
| Lugal | and then I reinstall it? | 22:53 |
| wxl | so kubuntu, mate, gnome, xubuntu, even ubuntu all have the same thing | 22:53 |
| wxl | no you do not install it, unless you want those applications that you removed to return | 22:54 |
| Lugal | :( | 22:54 |
| genii | If you reinstall it, the system will want to upgrade it's dependencies , which are the programs you are trying to remove | 22:54 |
| wxl | this is how things work not only all across ubuntu but all across debian as well | 22:54 |
| Lugal | NO | 22:54 |
| Lugal | its not in debian | 22:54 |
| wxl | sure it is | 22:54 |
| wxl | there's an lxqt metapackage | 22:54 |
| wxl | works the same way | 22:54 |
| Lugal | you can remove what u want but u can keep what u want there | 22:54 |
| Lugal | whats the purpose of it? thats not how FOSS should work | 22:56 |
| wxl | you can ask the apt maintainers if you like | 22:56 |
| Lugal | I mean why lubuntu team wants me to use sylpheed? | 22:56 |
| tsimonq2 | !info lubuntu-desktop | 22:56 |
| ubottu | lubuntu-desktop (source: lubuntu-meta): Lubuntu Desktop environment. In component universe, is optional. Version 0.65 (xenial), package size 2 kB, installed size 14 kB (Only available for i386; amd64; powerpc; armhf) | 22:56 |
| tsimonq2 | !info lubuntu-core | 22:56 |
| ubottu | lubuntu-core (source: lubuntu-meta): Lubuntu Desktop environment - minimal installation. In component universe, is optional. Version 0.65 (xenial), package size 3 kB, installed size 14 kB (Only available for i386; amd64; powerpc; armhf) | 22:56 |
| tsimonq2 | I uninstall lubuntu-desktop and it leaves you with core | 22:56 |
| tsimonq2 | that takes out all of the preinstalled stuffa | 22:57 |
| tsimonq2 | *stuff | 22:57 |
| tsimonq2 | and there you go | 22:57 |
| wxl | of course some underlying stuff is removed | 22:57 |
| tsimonq2 | yeah | 22:57 |
| tsimonq2 | but still | 22:57 |
| wxl | you could, of course, just do a netinstall and only install the packages you want | 22:57 |
| tsimonq2 | I did that for a family computer | 22:57 |
| tsimonq2 | hah, been there done that :D | 22:57 |
| wxl | there's a million ways to do this, as ther are across the foss world | 22:57 |
| Lugal | with lubuntu core I still have desktop? and file manager? | 22:58 |
| wxl | Lugal: `apt-cache show lubuntu-core` will show you exactly what's included | 22:58 |
| wxl | of course if you ONLY want to remove sylpheed, all you have to do is `apt-get -y remove sylpheed` | 22:59 |
| tsimonq2 | there's another way to do that too wxl :D | 22:59 |
| tsimonq2 | http://packages.ubuntu.com/xenial/lubuntu-desktop | 22:59 |
| tsimonq2 | that gices decriptions for everything | 22:59 |
| tsimonq2 | *gives | 22:59 |
| tsimonq2 | Lugal: yep, that's correct | 23:00 |
| wxl | btw install this in debian and then try to remove galculator then the lxde package (just a metapackage, as the description claims), will be removed | 23:00 |
| wxl | https://packages.debian.org/jessie/lxde | 23:00 |
| wxl | so there you go, same in debian | 23:00 |
| tsimonq2 | ^ | 23:00 |
| tsimonq2 | Lugal: so lubuntu-desktop just has extra stuff, lubuntu-core can just be installed for a minimal, lightweight desktop | 23:01 |
| Lugal | ok, thanks guys, I will deinstall lubuntu-desktop, I think its not needed | 23:02 |
| tsimonq2 | Lugal: like you said, that's FOSS ;) | 23:02 |
| wxl | Lugal: the only thing you lose in removing it is the potential to pick up changes in lubuntu-desktop if anything about the seed changes. say we change mail clients, for example | 23:02 |
| tsimonq2 | ^ yeah that's a good point | 23:02 |
| tsimonq2 | Lugal: but if you always use the same applications and require specific ones, you should have no problem with removing lubuntu-desktop | 23:03 |
| Lugal | can i just deinstall ntpd from my system? | 23:13 |
| wxl | yep | 23:14 |
| wxl | you can install or uninstall whatever you want | 23:15 |
| Lugal | where do I find it? its not installed according to synaptics but its running according to netstat -tupan | 23:16 |
| wxl | `dpkg -l | grep -i ntp` should help you find it | 23:18 |
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