[01:33] Okay, I am trying to save my housemate’s computer. The installs go fine, but then the system boots into busybox [01:33] I’m not sure what’s wrong, and I’m not getting much in the way of errors, just … it won’t boot? [01:34] Which is sorta the ultimate error. Or non-error. [01:34] Or something. [01:35] he yall === dldurk_ is now known as dldurk === Caerus|Away is now known as Caerus === Caerus is now known as Caerus|Away [20:18] Hey folks. I need some help setting up a home media server's network connection. When I connect to my router via wifi I get internet but no network. When I connect to my router via ethernet I get network but not wifi. Can anyone help me? I am running lubuntu. Linksys can't seem to help me. [20:20] Leptospire: #ubuntu would probably be the best place for that :) [20:21] tsimonq2: I will give it a shot [20:21] Leptospire: have a nice day :) === spupuser1 is now known as nutcase [22:40] hi [22:40] why cant I just deinstall some package from lubuntu, like abiword or sylpheed? why? [22:43] Lugal: you can. just do it. lubuntu-desktop is just an index file. [22:45] Lugal: Remove lubuntu-desktop, then remove whatever subcomponent it installed that you don't want. [22:45] ok [22:45] i can put mate on lubuntu [22:46] swift110: if you want to get really freaky, you could put compiz and unity on there, too. [22:46] heh [22:46] yes [22:50] but why the fck i just cant remove packages and keep lubuntu-desktop? [22:50] !language | Lugal [22:50] Lugal: The main Ubuntu channels require that you speak in calm, polite English. For other languages, please visit https://wiki.ubuntu.com/IRC/ChannelList [22:50] what is that a dependency? [22:50] it was polite just wanted to be more precisely [22:51] Lugal: the word you used between the and i is not consider polite by many people. it is those people that we seek not to offend. [22:51] ok sorry [22:52] so why is lubuntu bound too all programms like mail client, abiword, pidgin, ....? why I cant customise my lubuntu? [22:53] Lugal: as we said, you can. all you have to do in order to do so is to remove the lubuntu-desktop index file. it will not actually remove any packages. [22:53] Lugal: even the description explains this. try `apt-cache show lubuntu-desktop | grep remove` [22:53] incidentially, this is how ALL metapackages work. [22:53] and then I reinstall it? [22:53] so kubuntu, mate, gnome, xubuntu, even ubuntu all have the same thing [22:54] no you do not install it, unless you want those applications that you removed to return [22:54] :( [22:54] If you reinstall it, the system will want to upgrade it's dependencies , which are the programs you are trying to remove [22:54] this is how things work not only all across ubuntu but all across debian as well [22:54] NO [22:54] its not in debian [22:54] sure it is [22:54] there's an lxqt metapackage [22:54] works the same way [22:54] you can remove what u want but u can keep what u want there [22:56] whats the purpose of it? thats not how FOSS should work [22:56] you can ask the apt maintainers if you like [22:56] I mean why lubuntu team wants me to use sylpheed? [22:56] !info lubuntu-desktop [22:56] lubuntu-desktop (source: lubuntu-meta): Lubuntu Desktop environment. In component universe, is optional. Version 0.65 (xenial), package size 2 kB, installed size 14 kB (Only available for i386; amd64; powerpc; armhf) [22:56] !info lubuntu-core [22:56] lubuntu-core (source: lubuntu-meta): Lubuntu Desktop environment - minimal installation. In component universe, is optional. Version 0.65 (xenial), package size 3 kB, installed size 14 kB (Only available for i386; amd64; powerpc; armhf) [22:56] I uninstall lubuntu-desktop and it leaves you with core [22:57] that takes out all of the preinstalled stuffa [22:57] *stuff [22:57] and there you go [22:57] of course some underlying stuff is removed [22:57] yeah [22:57] but still [22:57] you could, of course, just do a netinstall and only install the packages you want [22:57] I did that for a family computer [22:57] hah, been there done that :D [22:57] there's a million ways to do this, as ther are across the foss world [22:58] with lubuntu core I still have desktop? and file manager? [22:58] Lugal: `apt-cache show lubuntu-core` will show you exactly what's included [22:59] of course if you ONLY want to remove sylpheed, all you have to do is `apt-get -y remove sylpheed` [22:59] there's another way to do that too wxl :D [22:59] http://packages.ubuntu.com/xenial/lubuntu-desktop [22:59] that gices decriptions for everything [22:59] *gives [23:00] Lugal: yep, that's correct [23:00] btw install this in debian and then try to remove galculator then the lxde package (just a metapackage, as the description claims), will be removed [23:00] https://packages.debian.org/jessie/lxde [23:00] so there you go, same in debian [23:00] ^ [23:01] Lugal: so lubuntu-desktop just has extra stuff, lubuntu-core can just be installed for a minimal, lightweight desktop [23:02] ok, thanks guys, I will deinstall lubuntu-desktop, I think its not needed [23:02] Lugal: like you said, that's FOSS ;) [23:02] Lugal: the only thing you lose in removing it is the potential to pick up changes in lubuntu-desktop if anything about the seed changes. say we change mail clients, for example [23:02] ^ yeah that's a good point [23:03] Lugal: but if you always use the same applications and require specific ones, you should have no problem with removing lubuntu-desktop [23:13] can i just deinstall ntpd from my system? [23:14] yep [23:15] you can install or uninstall whatever you want [23:16] where do I find it? its not installed according to synaptics but its running according to netstat -tupan [23:18] `dpkg -l | grep -i ntp` should help you find it === littlebunnyfufu is now known as SonikkuAmerica === littlebunnyfufu is now known as Guest81554