[01:33] <Batshua> Okay, I am trying to save my housemate’s computer. The installs go fine, but then the system boots into busybox
[01:33] <Batshua> I’m not sure what’s wrong, and I’m not getting much in the way of errors, just … it won’t boot?
[01:34] <Batshua> Which is sorta the ultimate error. Or non-error.
[01:34] <Batshua> Or something.
[01:35] <swift110> he yall
[20:18] <Leptospire> Hey folks. I need some help setting up a home media server's network connection. When I connect to my router via wifi I get internet but no network. When I connect to my router via ethernet I get network but not wifi. Can anyone help me? I am running lubuntu. Linksys can't seem to help me.
[20:20] <tsimonq2> Leptospire: #ubuntu would probably be the best place for that :)
[20:21] <Leptospire> tsimonq2: I will give it a shot
[20:21] <tsimonq2> Leptospire: have a nice day :)
[22:40] <Lugal> hi
[22:40] <Lugal> why cant I just deinstall some package from lubuntu, like abiword or sylpheed?  why?
[22:43] <wxl> Lugal: you can. just do it. lubuntu-desktop is just an index file.
[22:45] <genii> Lugal: Remove lubuntu-desktop, then remove whatever subcomponent it installed that you don't want.
[22:45] <swift110> ok
[22:45] <swift110> i can put mate on lubuntu
[22:46] <wxl> swift110: if you want to get really freaky, you could put compiz and unity on there, too.
[22:46] <genii> heh
[22:46] <swift110> yes
[22:50] <Lugal> but why the fck i just cant remove packages and keep lubuntu-desktop?
[22:50] <wxl> !language | Lugal
[22:50] <Lugal> what is that a dependency?
[22:50] <Lugal> it was polite just wanted to be more precisely
[22:51] <wxl> Lugal: the word you used between the and i is not consider polite by many people. it is those people that we seek not to offend.
[22:51] <Lugal> ok sorry
[22:52] <Lugal> so  why is lubuntu bound too all programms like mail client, abiword, pidgin, ....? why I cant customise my lubuntu?
[22:53] <wxl> Lugal: as we said, you can. all you have to do in order to do so is to remove the lubuntu-desktop index file. it will not actually remove any packages.
[22:53] <wxl> Lugal: even the description explains this. try `apt-cache show lubuntu-desktop | grep remove`
[22:53] <wxl> incidentially, this is how ALL metapackages work.
[22:53] <Lugal> and then I reinstall it?
[22:53] <wxl> so kubuntu, mate, gnome, xubuntu, even ubuntu all have the same thing
[22:54] <wxl> no you do not install it, unless you want those applications that you removed to return
[22:54] <Lugal> :(
[22:54] <genii> If you reinstall it, the system will want to upgrade it's dependencies , which are the programs you are trying to remove
[22:54] <wxl> this is how things work not only all across ubuntu but all across debian as well
[22:54] <Lugal> NO
[22:54] <Lugal> its not in debian
[22:54] <wxl> sure it is
[22:54] <wxl> there's an lxqt metapackage
[22:54] <wxl> works the same way
[22:54] <Lugal> you can remove what u want but u can keep what u want there
[22:56] <Lugal> whats the purpose of it? thats not how FOSS should work
[22:56] <wxl> you can ask the apt maintainers if you like
[22:56] <Lugal> I mean why lubuntu team wants me to use sylpheed?
[22:56] <tsimonq2> !info lubuntu-desktop
[22:56] <tsimonq2> !info lubuntu-core
[22:56] <tsimonq2> I uninstall lubuntu-desktop and it leaves you with core
[22:57] <tsimonq2> that takes out all of the preinstalled stuffa
[22:57] <tsimonq2> *stuff
[22:57] <tsimonq2> and there you go
[22:57] <wxl> of course some underlying stuff is removed
[22:57] <tsimonq2> yeah
[22:57] <tsimonq2> but still
[22:57] <wxl> you could, of course, just do a netinstall and only install the packages you want
[22:57] <tsimonq2> I did that for a family computer
[22:57] <tsimonq2> hah, been there done that :D
[22:57] <wxl> there's a million ways to do this, as ther are across the foss world
[22:58] <Lugal> with lubuntu core I still have desktop? and file manager?
[22:58] <wxl> Lugal: `apt-cache show lubuntu-core` will show you exactly what's included
[22:59] <wxl> of course if you ONLY want to remove sylpheed, all you have to do is `apt-get -y remove sylpheed`
[22:59] <tsimonq2> there's another way to do that too wxl :D
[22:59] <tsimonq2> http://packages.ubuntu.com/xenial/lubuntu-desktop
[22:59] <tsimonq2> that gices decriptions for everything
[22:59] <tsimonq2> *gives
[23:00] <tsimonq2> Lugal: yep, that's correct
[23:00] <wxl> btw install this in debian and then try to remove galculator then the lxde package (just a metapackage, as the description claims), will be removed
[23:00] <wxl> https://packages.debian.org/jessie/lxde
[23:00] <wxl> so there you go, same in debian
[23:00] <tsimonq2> ^
[23:01] <tsimonq2> Lugal: so lubuntu-desktop just has extra stuff, lubuntu-core can just be installed for a minimal, lightweight desktop
[23:02] <Lugal> ok, thanks guys, I will deinstall lubuntu-desktop, I think its not needed
[23:02] <tsimonq2> Lugal: like you said, that's FOSS ;)
[23:02] <wxl> Lugal: the only thing you lose in removing it is the potential to pick up changes in lubuntu-desktop if anything about the seed changes. say we change mail clients, for example
[23:02] <tsimonq2> ^ yeah that's a good point
[23:03] <tsimonq2> Lugal: but if you always use the same applications and require specific ones, you should have no problem with removing lubuntu-desktop
[23:13] <Lugal> can i just deinstall ntpd from my system?
[23:14] <wxl> yep
[23:15] <wxl> you can install or uninstall whatever you want
[23:16] <Lugal> where do I find it? its not installed according to synaptics but its running according to netstat -tupan
[23:18] <wxl> `dpkg -l | grep -i ntp` should help you find it