| robert_ancell | tedg, do you know of any reason to continue to use the Ubuntu geoip service rather than switching to Mozilla Location Service? | 00:00 |
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| jbicha | geoclue-2.0 will need to get re-promoted to main then | 01:37 |
| tjaalton | robert_ancell: hi, did you have new changes to xorg.git? i had the commits locally but forgot to push because of the ffe taking so long | 04:11 |
| robert_ancell | tjaalton, the debian git branch? | 04:12 |
| tjaalton | yep | 04:12 |
| robert_ancell | I only pushed your changes. I was looking at merging but didn't get it done | 04:12 |
| tjaalton | it's not ready for merging | 04:13 |
| tjaalton | well, we aren't | 04:13 |
| robert_ancell | tjaalton, do you have any plans for libinput? | 04:13 |
| tjaalton | robert_ancell: merging the lib or switching to the driver? | 04:14 |
| robert_ancell | tjaalton, merging the lib (but also if any updates on the driver) | 04:14 |
| tjaalton | merging new stuff is a lower prio right now for me | 04:16 |
| tjaalton | libinput 1.3.1 got released yesterday | 04:17 |
| robert_ancell | tjaalton, shall I have a go at libinput? | 04:19 |
| tjaalton | sure | 04:19 |
| tjaalton | 1.3.0 was buggy | 04:19 |
| jbicha | robert_ancell: the watch file needs updating, try | 04:29 |
| jbicha | https://www.freedesktop.org/software/libinput/ libinput@ANY_VERSION@\.tar\.xz | 04:29 |
| duflu | robert_ancell, tjaalton: I landed Xmir enhancements required for OSK support. Needs packaging but I also want to test it more today... | 04:31 |
| tjaalton | jbicha: current one works here.. | 04:32 |
| jbicha | tjaalton: are you sure? http://xorg.freedesktop.org/releases/individual/driver/ doesn't work here | 04:36 |
| tjaalton | it has http://www.freedesktop.org/software/libinput/libinput-(.*)\.tar\.xz | 04:39 |
| tjaalton | I just ran uscan and it worked | 04:39 |
| tjaalton | jbicha: huh, you mean the driver? | 04:40 |
| jbicha | oh | 04:41 |
| tjaalton | both seem to work | 04:41 |
| jbicha | never mind, I was confused | 04:42 |
| tjaalton | ok | 04:43 |
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| hikiko | hi | 05:03 |
| andyrock | morning all | 06:27 |
| Sweet5hark | moin | 06:39 |
| pitti | Good morning | 07:04 |
| happyaron | morning | 07:04 |
| pitti | hey happyaron, how are you? | 07:31 |
| pitti | (sorry, just saw your reply now) | 07:31 |
| happyaron | good, :) | 07:33 |
| happyaron | pitti: can you have a look at the network-manager SRU in -proposed? it seems to have enough time in queue? | 07:54 |
| pitti | happyaron: in a bit, still firefighting some infra issues | 07:56 |
| happyaron | np, take you time | 07:56 |
| willcooke | morning all | 07:58 |
| willcooke | Looks like it's Autum already | 07:58 |
| willcooke | Autumn | 07:58 |
| TheMuso | Hey willcooke, hey everybody... Its finally winter here. :) | 08:00 |
| TheMuso | willcooke: I approve of the theming of the tabs in the terminal. :) | 08:00 |
| willcooke | evening TheMuso, good holiday? | 08:00 |
| TheMuso | willcooke: Yes thanks, very refreshing. | 08:00 |
| willcooke | TheMuso, excellent! | 08:01 |
| Laney | helloooooooooooo | 08:02 |
| pitti | hey Laney, how are you? | 08:03 |
| pitti | Laney: enjoyed the long weekend? | 08:03 |
| didrocks | we can see that seb is in France, he wake up again after the UK :-) | 08:04 |
| didrocks | morning guys | 08:04 |
| Laney | pitti: very good thank you - went to Cambridge beer festival and then saw family | 08:04 |
| Laney | I think I am a bit ill though, don't feel quite right today | 08:05 |
| Laney | but still, here! | 08:05 |
| Laney | hey didrocks! | 08:05 |
| Laney | how are you guys? | 08:05 |
| pitti | Laney: uh, get well soon then | 08:05 |
| didrocks | Laney: still sick from last week, but getting better (was quite a challenge to give a talk in that condition) | 08:05 |
| Laney | :( | 08:05 |
| pitti | Laney: I had an awesome 4-day weekend, with a rock festival, a Star Trek exhibition, some gardening, and lots of ice cream :) | 08:05 |
| didrocks | I guess this is the period for coughing and such | 08:05 |
| pitti | bonjour didrocks ! | 08:06 |
| didrocks | hey pitti ;) | 08:06 |
| Laney | pitti: we were trying to guess what you were doing last week ;-) | 08:06 |
| * pitti looks at the sunny sky and wonders what people are complaining about | 08:06 | |
| didrocks | pitti: was in Paris this week-end, that's why the grey weather :p | 08:06 |
| Laney | gardening and ice cream were on the list | 08:07 |
| pitti | Laney: https://plus.google.com/+MartinPitti/posts/1Ujm2rKT9wB and http://piware.de/fotos/Star-Wars-Identities-Mai2016/ basically | 08:07 |
| seb128 | good morning desktopers | 08:07 |
| didrocks | hey seb128 | 08:07 |
| pitti | argh, and I typed "star trek", I meant "star wars" obviously; that's a terminal sin! | 08:07 |
| seb128 | oh, didrocks saying hello on desktop :-) | 08:07 |
| seb128 | lut didrocks! | 08:07 |
| pitti | salut seb128 | 08:07 |
| Laney | hey seb128 | 08:07 |
| willcooke | pitti, GET OUT! | 08:07 |
| * pitti stands ashamed in the corner | 08:07 | |
| pitti | the thing I'm always mocking my wife with now happened to me! | 08:08 |
| didrocks | seb128: yeah, crazy, just got some minutes before next thing… :p | 08:08 |
| Laney | urghghgh | 08:08 |
| Laney | I didn't open my laptop since friday | 08:08 |
| seb128 | didrocks, good luck! | 08:08 |
| davmor2 | pitti: no power shell is a terminal sin | 08:08 |
| didrocks | pitti: the difference are minors anyway | 08:08 |
| * Laney cries at email | 08:08 | |
| * didrocks gets out as well :) | 08:08 | |
| willcooke | davmor2, *badum tisch* | 08:08 |
| * pitti slaps didrocks | 08:08 | |
| didrocks | ouch :p | 08:08 |
| pitti | Laney: ignore the current batch of worker failure, swift is AWOL (IS is investigating) | 08:09 |
| Laney | pitti: ack | 08:11 |
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| pitti | Laney: btw, if you missed my ping from yesterday: http://picpaste.com/systemd-session.png :) | 08:12 |
| Laney | pitti: nice - and oh, I guess you didn't see my hack either | 08:13 |
| pitti | Laney: this is now a session half-started by upstart and half-started by systemd, and stuff is working nicely | 08:13 |
| pitti | Laney: and converting more services is now fairly straightforward | 08:13 |
| Laney | pitti: https://paste.debian.net/712910/ | 08:14 |
| pitti | so I think this is now ready for a nice two or three day sprint to fully do and land it | 08:14 |
| pitti | Laney: wohoo!! | 08:14 |
| Laney | I added something to dbus-daemon to synthesise SystemdUnit= | 08:14 |
| pitti | Laney: so you gave up on systemd's dbus generator? | 08:14 |
| Laney | nein, but dbus-daemon needs that key to know to use systemd activation | 08:15 |
| Laney | you need both halves | 08:15 |
| pitti | Laney: oh, ok; in principle you can map that by traversing all units and looking at the BusName=, but that seems rather expensive | 08:15 |
| Laney | dbus-daemon doesn't want to call methods on systemd | 08:16 |
| Laney | so I don't know how you would actually do this properly; would need to talk to smcv if this is something we would actually like to have | 08:17 |
| Laney | for this hack I added a flag --systemd-activate-all that you turn on when the generator is in use | 08:17 |
| pitti | Laney: originally I thought that systemd would create .socket units for Type=dbus units and do the activation by itself then; but I guess that's wrong? | 08:18 |
| pitti | it's still dbus-daemon doing the activation then | 08:19 |
| pitti | ah, maybe the above was with kdbus | 08:19 |
| Laney | https://cgit.freedesktop.org/dbus/dbus/tree/bus/activation.c#n1885 | 08:20 |
| pitti | Laney: WDYM with "dbus-daemon doesn't want to call methods on systemd"? | 08:21 |
| Laney | pitti: If you were thinking of having dbus-daemon use the systemd dbus api to enumerate all the dbus units | 08:22 |
| pitti | Laney: oh, no; I think that's rather expensive | 08:22 |
| pitti | Laney: I wondered how you auto-generate that mapping | 08:22 |
| Laney | make an activation request for dbus-<busname>.service or so | 08:23 |
| Laney | this breaks down when you consider that the generator isn't run for newly installed services | 08:26 |
| Laney | only at systemd's startup | 08:26 |
| pitti | Laney: so we coudl still manually add SystemdUnit= to the things we care about (I figure we don't actually have that many), and not rely on any magic | 08:32 |
| Laney | pitti: could do - I thought it was nice to have everything activated by systemd, so tried to make a proof of concept, but it's not that essential | 08:35 |
| Laney | it is nice having everything logged into the journal properly | 08:35 |
| pitti | indeed, yes | 08:35 |
| Laney | but if that's the only benefit then dbus could probably just log there itself | 08:35 |
| pitti | this would get rid of most of http://bazaar.launchpad.net/~pitti/bamf/systemd-unit/revision/637 | 08:36 |
| Laney | right - you wouldn't need to write a unit unless you want to do something special | 08:37 |
| seb128 | back | 09:16 |
| Laney | wb! | 09:17 |
| willcooke | seb128, we all went out for ice cream while you were away | 09:17 |
| willcooke | I ate yours | 09:17 |
| willcooke | sorry | 09:17 |
| seb128 | :-( | 09:18 |
| seb128 | tech guy said that the cables were not up to current standards and having too many junctions, they need to put a new one, they come back on friday | 09:19 |
| willcooke | A new cable should give you a decent speed boost | 09:20 |
| seb128 | yeah, I had some line quality issues for a while | 09:20 |
| seb128 | so not a bad thing | 09:20 |
| seb128 | one it's done | 09:20 |
| willcooke | heh | 09:20 |
| seb128 | once | 09:20 |
| willcooke | "Friday" = "an undetermined point in the future" | 09:20 |
| willcooke | aka "never" | 09:21 |
| Laney | those are the sounds of a person that has had to deal with BT Openreach | 09:21 |
| willcooke | ha! | 09:21 |
| willcooke | indeed | 09:21 |
| davmor2 | willcooke: no no Tomorrow it'll always be done for tomorrow :D | 09:22 |
| seb128 | lol | 09:25 |
| seb128 | orange is nice | 09:25 |
| seb128 | they give you a 4g stick if you want until they fix your line | 09:25 |
| willcooke | wow - that's a great idea | 09:26 |
| pitti | happyaron: looking now; https://bugs.launchpad.net/ubuntu/+source/network-manager/+bug/1576726/comments/25 sounds bad | 09:46 |
| ubot5 | Launchpad bug 1576726 in network-manager-openconnect (Ubuntu Xenial) "[SRU] network-manager 1.2.0" [High,Confirmed] | 09:46 |
| seb128 | pitti, I've an updated SRU from happyaron to address the issue you had with the one in the queue, need to get it sponsored today | 09:47 |
| pitti | seb128: for network-manager? I don't remember an issue with that | 09:49 |
| seb128 | pitti, no, nm-openconnect | 09:49 |
| pitti | just the above comment that might or might not be a regresssion in -proposed, the comment is unclear | 09:49 |
| pitti | ah | 09:49 |
| seb128 | I think it's not | 09:49 |
| seb128 | the issue is that openconnect didn't get updated to 1.1 before release | 09:49 |
| seb128 | it's still on 1.0 | 09:49 |
| seb128 | which seems incompatbiel | 09:49 |
| pitti | seb128: ah, so this is already not working in xenial then | 09:50 |
| seb128 | that's my understanding | 09:50 |
| pitti | seb128: ok, I'll reject the current upload from the queue then, to avoid confusion | 09:53 |
| seb128 | pitti, thanks | 09:53 |
| alexarnaud | Hello all ! | 10:10 |
| alexarnaud | didrocks: how are you today? | 10:12 |
| didrocks | alexarnaud: still sick, but ok, how are you? :) | 10:13 |
| alexarnaud | didrocks: fine :) | 10:13 |
| alexarnaud | didrocks: Have you discuss with Sam about Hypra and Compiz? | 10:13 |
| didrocks | alexarnaud: pinging him right now | 10:14 |
| alexarnaud | didrocks: what is his IRC nickname? | 10:15 |
| didrocks | alexarnaud: you can as well ping him right away (he is away it seems), presenting him, and just tell I'm sending you to him :) His nickname is smspillaz | 10:15 |
| alexarnaud | didrocks: OK :), thanks a lot. Could you just refresh my memory please, what is the technique is CCSM to have dynamic configuration as I've presented to you in mouse theme ? | 10:17 |
| didrocks | alexarnaud: it's not in CCSM, it's a package named "session-migration", where you can use scripts to do whatever you want (like changing gsettings keys) | 10:18 |
| alexarnaud | didrocks: Oh, I remember that ^^. I speak about to have dynamic configuration in CCSM. For example, we have "mouse theme" plugins that has all the configuration on a XML file and a ugly switch in the C++ code that create a dependency on package related to the hard coded theme. I speak about to move from hard to dynamic loading configuration. I don't know if you remember our discussion about this topic. | 10:24 |
| didrocks | alexarnaud: not really, sorry. I'm sure Sam would be able to help you, he wrote the depedency resolver :) | 10:27 |
| alexarnaud | No problem. It's not urgent. | 10:45 |
| Laney | tedg / charles: is anyone MIRing ubuntu-app-launch which indicator-datetime now depends on? | 11:12 |
| Laney | didrocks: hi :) do you know if dconf-qt is still needed? | 11:25 |
| Laney | it depends on a backend that is removed in dconf now | 11:25 |
| didrocks | Laney: hum, I think only Unity2d used it | 11:28 |
| didrocks | I guess you did check the rdepends, right? | 11:28 |
| Laney | yup | 11:28 |
| didrocks | Reverse Depends: | 11:29 |
| didrocks | libdconf-qt-dev | 11:29 |
| didrocks | yeah, a little bit sad to see this lib on its own :p | 11:29 |
| didrocks | good for purging IMHO | 11:29 |
| Laney | nice | 11:29 |
| didrocks | and that will make desrt happy | 11:29 |
| Laney | do you want to use your powers? | 11:29 |
| * didrocks loads his power and do it in 2 min | 11:29 | |
| Laney | ♥ | 11:30 |
| Laney | seb128: can I ignore those evolution uploads to xenial for a yakkety upload? | 11:31 |
| seb128 | Laney, yes, those are workaround to get translations back without waiting for the next langpack export | 11:35 |
| seb128 | translations are not so important in the dev cycle | 11:35 |
| Laney | k, thanks | 11:35 |
| seb128 | yw | 11:36 |
| andyrock | willcooke is desktop-trello-import the correct tag? | 11:37 |
| seb128 | andyrock, yes | 11:37 |
| willcooke | andyrock, yah | 11:37 |
| andyrock | ah ok just because my bugs are not getting imported | 11:38 |
| willcooke | andyrock, shout when you're ready and I will kick off the script | 11:38 |
| seb128 | it's not an automatic job | 11:38 |
| andyrock | ah ok yeah I've two bugs read to be imported | 11:38 |
| willcooke | andyrock, which project? | 11:39 |
| willcooke | project(s) | 11:39 |
| andyrock | unity | 11:39 |
| willcooke | andyrock, done | 11:39 |
| andyrock | cool thanks | 11:39 |
| didrocks | Laney: flushed (sorry, was in a meeting) | 12:06 |
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| desrt | Laney: kill it! | 12:35 |
| didrocks | desrt: it's dead (can't say forever, you never know), but dead :) | 12:39 |
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| tedg | Laney: Oh, I didn't realize we needed to, I haven't looked at an MIR. | 13:30 |
| tedg | Wait, sorry, I thought you were saying SRU. | 13:30 |
| * tedg drinks more coffee | 13:30 | |
| tedg | Laney: It is on my TODO for this cycle, I can bump it up, didn't realize it was needed already. | 13:31 |
| tedg | Apparently the goal is to get all of U8 desktop MIR'd this cycle. | 13:31 |
| seb128 | tedg, yeah, need to start somewhere ;-) | 13:34 |
| * ogra_ wonders if thats also retroactively true for xenial :) | 13:35 | |
| * tedg is so excited for Unity8 becoming a grown up project | 13:35 | |
| * tedg wipes a tear from his eye | 13:35 | |
| Laney | thanks didrocks! | 13:36 |
| didrocks | yw! :) | 13:36 |
| Laney | tedg: indeed, datetime is stuck on this now | 13:37 |
| andyrock | desrt: https://bugs.launchpad.net/ubuntu/+source/unity/+bug/1580673 | 13:44 |
| ubot5 | Launchpad bug 1580673 in unity (Ubuntu) "DBusActivatable launches app in root directory" [Medium,Triaged] | 13:44 |
| andyrock | any idea about this one? | 13:44 |
| andyrock | desrt: maybe g_desktop_app_info_make_platform_data should add a "cwd" entry? | 14:06 |
| Trevinho | hey xnox, what you think about this https://bugs.launchpad.net/ubuntu/+source/upstart/+bug/1580673 ? | 14:08 |
| ubot5 | Launchpad bug 1580673 in upstart (Ubuntu) "DBusActivatable launches app in root directory" [Undecided,New] | 14:08 |
| GunnarHj | seb128: Hi Sebastien! Are you able to see why my latest l-s upload to yakkety is stuck in -proposed? | 14:13 |
| GunnarHj | https://launchpad.net/ubuntu/+source/language-selector | 14:13 |
| seb128 | GunnarHj, hey | 14:13 |
| seb128 | http://people.canonical.com/~ubuntu-archive/proposed-migration/update_excuses.html | 14:13 |
| seb128 | "Not touching package as requested in bug 1496292 on Fri May 20 06:32:26 2016 " | 14:13 |
| ubot5 | bug 1496292 in packagekit (Ubuntu) "Needs to be ported to packagekit 1" [High,Confirmed] https://launchpad.net/bugs/1496292 | 14:14 |
| Laney | seb128: can you delete evolution-ews from y-proposed please? | 14:15 |
| Laney | need to get this libical migrated before trying 3.20 there | 14:16 |
| GunnarHj | seb128: Hmm.. Thanks. Think I'll need help with that. | 14:16 |
| seb128 | Laney, done | 14:18 |
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| seb128 | GunnarHj, I don't see why language-selector needs to be blocked, I think you can delete the line in that bug | 14:19 |
| Laney | merci! | 14:19 |
| seb128 | de rien! | 14:19 |
| GunnarHj | seb128: If you say so, I can do it (without knowing what I'm doing). Are you sure? | 14:21 |
| seb128 | yes | 14:21 |
| GunnarHj | seb128: Ok, thanks. | 14:21 |
| seb128 | that bug was meant to block aptdaemon/packagekit | 14:21 |
| seb128 | unsure why the other entries were added, seems buggy triaging | 14:22 |
| seb128 | or user action | 14:22 |
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| mhall119 | tseliot: ping, I need some nvidia package fixes and I was told you're the guy to talk to | 14:31 |
| mhall119 | the current proprietary driver package doesn't allow snappy apps to use OpenGL | 14:31 |
| mhall119 | 10:24 < mvo> mhall119: do you think you could chase our nvidia packagers to include a systemd bind mount unit from "sudo mount -o bind /usr/lib/nvidia-361 /var/lib/snapd/lib/gl/" ? | 14:32 |
| Laney | Mirv: is https://launchpad.net/ubuntu/+source/goldencheetah/3.3.0-3build1/+build/9805094 related to your recent changes? | 14:33 |
| GunnarHj | seb128: l-s does have an aptdaemon dependency - think it's there for the pulling of language support. I also recall bug #1541288. Still sure? ;) | 14:33 |
| ubot5 | bug 1541288 in language-selector (Ubuntu) "Support PackageKit" [Undecided,Won't fix] https://launchpad.net/bugs/1541288 | 14:33 |
| seb128 | GunnarHj, yes I'm sure, l-s should be ported to use packagekit interfaces and not aptdaemon but that's not something that requires to block it in proposed | 14:35 |
| GunnarHj | seb128: Ok, that I'll shut up on this topic now. :) Thanks! | 14:36 |
| seb128 | yw | 14:36 |
| pitti | Laney, seb128: coming back to the sprint question yesterday: would you like to hang out two or three days for the session startup migration? | 14:50 |
| pitti | Laney, seb128: I think we have enough pieces of the puzzle now to demonstrate that it works in principle, the rest is parallelizable work, and maybe some refinement discussions | 14:51 |
| pitti | and translating it to {k,x,l,...}ubuntu too, as far as they are concerned | 14:51 |
| pitti | this isn't particularly urgent, and we already have a sprint mid-June, so perhaps end of june or July or so? | 14:51 |
| seb128 | I'm +1 on the idea yes | 14:53 |
| seb128 | unsure when would be the best time | 14:53 |
| seb128 | end of june or second half of july works for me | 14:53 |
| Laney | yep sounds good | 14:54 |
| pitti | seb128, Laney: if it's just the three of us, I'm happy to have you as guests at my place, if you want to travel that far | 14:56 |
| pitti | I guess seb128 lives in the middle between Laney and me | 14:56 |
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| rektide | hi all. in unity-control-center->bluetooth, if i click a device, there's a pane with some details (paired, type, address, &c). it also has a "Connection" toggle (On/Off). I recently dist-upgraded from 15.04 where this toggle worked fine to 15.10, then 16.04, and this "Connection" toggle appears disabled for all of my devices | 15:02 |
| seb128 | pitti, any option would work for me, we have enough space that you guys could come as well, only 1 extra bed though | 15:02 |
| rektide | it was a very important capability to attach/release devices, and i'm wondering if this Connection toggle works for anyone else atm, and am curious what kind of debug info I might be able to get, wondering if anyone has suggestions for things to try? | 15:03 |
| seb128 | rektide, hey | 15:04 |
| rektide | hiya. :) | 15:05 |
| seb128 | rektide, that control seems to reflect the status but not be clickable | 15:06 |
| rektide | seb128: in 15.04 it was an active control item. if i needed to stop using my bluetooth headset (perhaps so my phone could use it) i could toggle it | 15:07 |
| seb128 | rektide, seems to be bug #1568679, that probably has to do with the bluez5 transition | 15:08 |
| ubot5 | bug 1568679 in unity-control-center (Ubuntu) "Can't connect bluetooth device with on/off switch in control center" [Undecided,New] https://launchpad.net/bugs/1568679 | 15:08 |
| rektide | seb128: & likewise, sometimes my headset wont reconnect automatically if it's available, but clicking the toggle to on would actively make a connection | 15:08 |
| seb128 | rektide, you can use the indicator as a workaround, the controls work there | 15:08 |
| rektide | that brings me to my second question: is there any way to get menu bar items (indicators) if i'm running a non Unity WM? I run awesomewm. | 15:09 |
| seb128 | I don't know about that | 15:09 |
| rektide | back when i used openbox i'd use a program like stalonetray to get system tray things, but this menu-bar doesn't appear to interoperate with the regular fd.o specs (ICCWM &c) | 15:10 |
| rektide | quite aggravating! | 15:10 |
| rektide | or perhaps there's just some specific applet that i need to run- that'd make a ton of sense | 15:11 |
| seb128 | rektide, you can install libindicator3-tools and use indicator-loader3 to display the indicator as a workaround | 15:17 |
| desrt | andyrock: or upstart should launch apps in ~ instead of / | 15:25 |
| andyrock | yeah | 15:25 |
| andyrock | it's upstart's fault :D | 15:25 |
| desrt | :D | 15:25 |
| desrt | :( | 15:25 |
| seb128 | rektide, the bug is easy to fix, we are going to deal with it, thanks for pointing it out | 15:28 |
| willcooke | Meeting time! | 15:30 |
| desrt | zomg | 15:30 |
| willcooke | #startmeeting Desktop Team Weekly Meeting - 2016-05-31 | 15:30 |
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| willcooke | Roll call: andyrock, attente, desrt, dgadomski, fjkong, happyaron (out), hikiko (out), laney, qengho, seb128, sweet5hark, themuso (out), tkamppeter, trevinho, robert_ancell (out) | 15:31 |
| seb128 | hey! | 15:31 |
| qengho | yo | 15:31 |
| FJKong | 4hi | 15:32 |
| desrt | o/ | 15:32 |
| andyrock | hey | 15:32 |
| willcooke | lets go... | 15:34 |
| willcooke | #topic attente | 15:34 |
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| willcooke | Hi attente, what's cooking? | 15:34 |
| attente | hey | 15:34 |
| attente | debugging the galculator snap, proposed some small fixes to the autotools plugin in snapcraft, but needs revisions | 15:34 |
| attente | still working on cleaning up the g-s patches, have a squashed commit of everything on top of the current master, but haven't picked it apart yet | 15:34 |
| attente | (eof) | 15:34 |
| Mirv | Laney: possibly. there's a WIP bug/research at bug #1586026 where help would be welcome. added a note there to remind later. | 15:35 |
| ubot5 | bug 1586026 in qtbase-opensource-src (Ubuntu) "Remove arm64 binaries for packages failing to build with Qt compiled with OpenGL ES" [Undecided,New] https://launchpad.net/bugs/1586026 | 15:35 |
| willcooke | thanks attente | 15:35 |
| willcooke | #topic andyrock | 15:35 |
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| andyrock | #1. [BUG:1586491] Volume up and down keys no longer autorepeat | 15:35 |
| andyrock | #2. [BUG:1582056] Switching windows in Unity fails to bring program to foreground | 15:35 |
| andyrock | #3. [BUG:1586374] Launcher sizing wrong in low graphics mode | 15:35 |
| andyrock | #4. [BUG:1587507] TTY switch triggers lock screen | 15:35 |
| andyrock | #5. Bug triaging | 15:35 |
| andyrock | eof | 15:35 |
| willcooke | thanks andyrock | 15:36 |
| willcooke | andyrock, do you think all of those will get in 16.04.1? | 15:36 |
| andyrock | willcooke: yup | 15:36 |
| willcooke | andyrock, super! | 15:36 |
| willcooke | #topic desrt | 15:36 |
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| desrt | hihi | 15:36 |
| desrt | working on the library/binary relocation support in glib | 15:37 |
| desrt | basically, making it possible to install debs (or libraries built once) into multiple /snap/ paths without all the pain | 15:37 |
| desrt | eof. | 15:37 |
| willcooke | \o/ | 15:37 |
| willcooke | thanks desrt | 15:37 |
| willcooke | #topic dgadomski | 15:37 |
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| dgadomski | hi | 15:37 |
| dgadomski | * found out that libmtp udev rules conflict with a specific printer (Brother MFC-8220 04f9:0150), waiting for udevadm test results prior to reporting a bug | 15:37 |
| dgadomski | * got help from tkamppeter on another printer-udev issue, thank you! | 15:38 |
| dgadomski | * looked into a bug report regarding ifupdown (related to bug #1337873), turned out it was a misconfiguration | 15:38 |
| ubot5 | bug 1337873 in ifupdown (Debian) "ifupdown initialization problems caused by race condition" [Unknown,New] https://launchpad.net/bugs/1337873 | 15:38 |
| dgadomski | * was off on Thu-Fri, didn't have chance to work on actual snaps yet, but examined the example calculator snap | 15:38 |
| dgadomski | eof | 15:38 |
| willcooke | thanks dgadomski | 15:38 |
| willcooke | dgadomski <-> attente for calculators. dgadomski might be worth changing to a different app if you can, I think we're well fixed for calculators :_) | 15:39 |
| willcooke | :) | 15:39 |
| willcooke | #topic FJKong | 15:39 |
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| FJKong | hi | 15:39 |
| FJKong | sogou IM: | 15:39 |
| FJKong | dbus 100% cpu using problem report by user | 15:39 |
| FJKong | double click to install skin and some notify problem | 15:39 |
| FJKong | 16.04 installing problem, get stuck at detecting file system and waiting for long time | 15:39 |
| FJKong | bug 1545910 Cannot input Chinese characters into TextField in a QML application | 15:39 |
| ubot5 | bug 1545910 in Ubuntu SDK IDE "Cannot input Chinese characters into TextField in a QML application" [Undecided,In progress] https://launchpad.net/bugs/1545910 | 15:40 |
| FJKong | eof | 15:40 |
| willcooke | thanks FJKong | 15:40 |
| willcooke | #topic happyaron | 15:40 |
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| willcooke | 1. Still network-manager | 15:40 |
| willcooke | 2. Released a hotfix of sogoupinyin on cloud input | 15:40 |
| willcooke | 3. New zfs-linux merge | 15:40 |
| qengho | (!) | 15:40 |
| willcooke | #topic hikiko | 15:41 |
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| willcooke | * OEM project: | 15:41 |
| willcooke | - document | 15:41 |
| willcooke | - quick look at the available tools | 15:41 |
| willcooke | - reproduced some of the issues | 15:41 |
| willcooke | - working on the env setup | 15:41 |
| willcooke | * Ezoom: fixed most problems - still remain some redraw issues and blur | 15:41 |
| willcooke | issues that were | 15:41 |
| willcooke | revealed after I fixed the NxN drawing problem | 15:41 |
| willcooke | * Shadows for shaped windows: merged the ancient branch to trunk, made | 15:41 |
| willcooke | sure there aren't conflicts with the gtk shadows, tried to make the | 15:41 |
| willcooke | decorations crash with chrome but I couldn't: | 15:41 |
| willcooke | https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=JHolz44IY00 (any ideas/reproduction | 15:41 |
| willcooke | steps?). Btw that branch is awaiting for review since January | 15:41 |
| willcooke | (https://code.launchpad.net/~hikiko/unity/unity.shadows-on-existing-pixmaps/+merge/284068 | 15:41 |
| willcooke | and https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=LABxkCLVSUg the video were I tested | 15:41 |
| willcooke | the code with edge case windows) so if you could speed up the review, or | 15:41 |
| willcooke | just give me some feedback so that I see the issues and fix them it | 15:41 |
| willcooke | would have been great.. (thanks) | 15:42 |
| willcooke | * reviews: | 15:42 |
| willcooke | #topic Laney | 15:42 |
| === meetingology changed the topic of #ubuntu-desktop to: Home of the Desktop Team, https://wiki.ubuntu.com/DesktopTeam | For help or questions, try #ubuntu | Amaterasu watches over you benevolently | Tag "gtk318" for gtk 3.18 bugs please and thanks | Desktop Team Weekly Meeting - 2016-05-31 | Current topic: Laney | ||
| Laney | • short week | 15:42 |
| Laney | • Worked some more on gtk 3.20 theme - feeling like I need to go into hiding and work on this full time - doing this bit by bit is probably not going to get it finished in a reasonable time (but the results are looking better every day) | 15:42 |
| Laney | • Did some poking on systemd --user, managed to break my laptop's boot, fixed that. As a PoC, hacked systemd's kdbus generator to generate Type=dbus units under dbus-daemon too, then hacked dbus-daemon to activate via systemd for these units, which is fun | 15:42 |
| Laney | • Some minor autopkgtest/appstream administration | 15:43 |
| Laney | • Fielded some questions from potential job candidates as a result of posting it on d-jobs | 15:43 |
| Laney | • Poked at -proposed a bit - few things stuck there without enough love, pinged people about some issues and fixed others | 15:43 |
| Laney | 🛃 | 15:43 |
| desrt | passport control? | 15:43 |
| qengho | :emoji: | 15:43 |
| willcooke | :) | 15:43 |
| willcooke | thanks Laney | 15:43 |
| qengho | Maybe it's a laptop. | 15:44 |
| willcooke | #topic qengho | 15:44 |
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| qengho | - chromium deb, new v51 in testing. Y stalled in build servers. | 15:44 |
| qengho | - chromium snap, much progress. mostly working. printing doesn't. kind of ugly. | 15:44 |
| qengho | - other snaps in personal or down-time: Tor relay, good! minecraft, testing! | 15:44 |
| Laney | glory to arstotzka | 15:44 |
| qengho | EOF | 15:44 |
| willcooke | \o/ thanks qu | 15:44 |
| willcooke | qengho | 15:44 |
| willcooke | #topic seb128 | 15:45 |
| === meetingology changed the topic of #ubuntu-desktop to: Home of the Desktop Team, https://wiki.ubuntu.com/DesktopTeam | For help or questions, try #ubuntu | Amaterasu watches over you benevolently | Tag "gtk318" for gtk 3.18 bugs please and thanks | Desktop Team Weekly Meeting - 2016-05-31 | Current topic: seb128 | ||
| seb128 | • changed evolution to include translations under langpack are fixed/updated | 15:45 |
| seb128 | • fixed util-linux bugs make DVD/hybrid disks not show in the UI | 15:45 |
| seb128 | • fixed update-notifier not spawning update-manager weekly | 15:45 |
| seb128 | • uploaded brasero fixes for missing translations/dvdcss plugin failing to load | 15:45 |
| seb128 | • fixed some usd segfaults having to do with devices being removed while configured, sent patches upstream to gsd which still has similar issues | 15:45 |
| seb128 | • helped verifying some xenial SRUs | 15:45 |
| seb128 | • backported some g-s-d fixes/improvements to u-s-d | 15:45 |
| seb128 | • reviewed recent launchpad bugs | 15:45 |
| seb128 | • worked on getting fcitx to work in snaps | 15:45 |
| seb128 | </week> | 15:45 |
| willcooke | thanks seb128! | 15:45 |
| willcooke | #topic sweetshark | 15:45 |
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| willcooke | He's at a Maiden concert! \m/ | 15:46 |
| willcooke | Updates: LO snap | 15:46 |
| willcooke | #topic TheMuso | 15:46 |
| === meetingology changed the topic of #ubuntu-desktop to: Home of the Desktop Team, https://wiki.ubuntu.com/DesktopTeam | For help or questions, try #ubuntu | Amaterasu watches over you benevolently | Tag "gtk318" for gtk 3.18 bugs please and thanks | Desktop Team Weekly Meeting - 2016-05-31 | Current topic: TheMuso | ||
| willcooke | * Started working on packaging of latest Pulseaudio 9 release candidate, not uploaded anywhere yet, need to sort out some dependency stuff. | 15:46 |
| willcooke | * Started working on integrating more snappy work into pulse packaging for yakkety, will probably be SRUed into xenial. Thanks to Simon Fels for the actual implementation. | 15:46 |
| willcooke | * More a11y stack updates for yakkety as per upstream releases. | 15:46 |
| willcooke | * Started working on acessibility profile manager improvements, nothing marked off on trello yet, as work is not yet at a state where I can consider it even partially done, but should be there by EOW. | 15:46 |
| willcooke | #topic tkamppeter | 15:47 |
| === meetingology changed the topic of #ubuntu-desktop to: Home of the Desktop Team, https://wiki.ubuntu.com/DesktopTeam | For help or questions, try #ubuntu | Amaterasu watches over you benevolently | Tag "gtk318" for gtk 3.18 bugs please and thanks | Desktop Team Weekly Meeting - 2016-05-31 | Current topic: tkamppeter | ||
| tkamppeter | - cups-filters: Investigated in which cases no page logging (for accounting, | 15:47 |
| tkamppeter | /var/log/cups/page_log) takes place. https://github.com/apple/cups/issues/4798. | 15:47 |
| tkamppeter | - Google Summer of Code 2016: Guide students to get started with their projects | 15:47 |
| tkamppeter | - Bugs | 15:47 |
| willcooke | thanks tkamppeter | 15:47 |
| willcooke | #topic Trevinho | 15:47 |
| === meetingology changed the topic of #ubuntu-desktop to: Home of the Desktop Team, https://wiki.ubuntu.com/DesktopTeam | For help or questions, try #ubuntu | Amaterasu watches over you benevolently | Tag "gtk318" for gtk 3.18 bugs please and thanks | Desktop Team Weekly Meeting - 2016-05-31 | Current topic: Trevinho | ||
| Trevinho | - Compiz and unity landings | 15:47 |
| Trevinho | - SRUs | 15:47 |
| Trevinho | - Fixes in gnome-settings-daemon (upstreaming usd work) | 15:47 |
| Trevinho | - Reviews | 15:47 |
| Laney | KERNEL PATCH | 15:47 |
| seb128 | broke upower | 15:48 |
| willcooke | lolz | 15:48 |
| seb128 | then fixed it :p | 15:48 |
| willcooke | thanks Trevinho | 15:49 |
| willcooke | #topic robert_ancell | 15:49 |
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| willcooke | - Register snap/squashfs mime types | 15:49 |
| willcooke | - File-roller support for squashfs | 15:49 |
| willcooke | - Package updates | 15:49 |
| willcooke | - LightDM in-session greeter work | 15:49 |
| willcooke | #topic any other business | 15:49 |
| === meetingology changed the topic of #ubuntu-desktop to: Home of the Desktop Team, https://wiki.ubuntu.com/DesktopTeam | For help or questions, try #ubuntu | Amaterasu watches over you benevolently | Tag "gtk318" for gtk 3.18 bugs please and thanks | Desktop Team Weekly Meeting - 2016-05-31 | Current topic: any other business | ||
| willcooke | Thanks everyone | 15:49 |
| willcooke | Anyone got any more topics | 15:49 |
| willcooke | ? | 15:49 |
| willcooke | Oh, hiring | 15:50 |
| willcooke | Had a fair few CVs in | 15:50 |
| willcooke | Have done some sifting, a little more to do. | 15:50 |
| willcooke | Will meet with Laney and seb128 this week | 15:50 |
| larsu | whoever you take, "larsu" in this channel is taken | 15:50 |
| * larsu waves hello | 15:50 | |
| willcooke | hey larsu! | 15:50 |
| seb128 | hey larsu ;-) | 15:50 |
| larsu | funny I dropped in at this moment :) | 15:51 |
| Trevinho | hey larsu.. Come on, is time to be hired again :) | 15:51 |
| willcooke | hehe | 15:51 |
| larsu | you'll just make me fix the theme again :P | 15:51 |
| willcooke | yup! ;) | 15:52 |
| seb128 | it's being you Laney and willcooke | 15:52 |
| Trevinho | naaaa... You'll snapify it :) | 15:52 |
| seb128 | :-) | 15:52 |
| larsu | haha! | 15:52 |
| * larsu always has that song in his head when he hears "snappy" | 15:52 | |
| willcooke | end of meeting in 10..... 9.... | 15:52 |
| * Trevinho wants to be German to appreciate | 15:53 | |
| seb128 | thanks! | 15:53 |
| willcooke | #endmeeting | 15:54 |
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| meetingology | Meeting ended Tue May 31 15:54:51 2016 UTC. | 15:54 |
| meetingology | Minutes: http://ubottu.com/meetingology/logs/ubuntu-desktop/2016/ubuntu-desktop.2016-05-31-15.30.moin.txt | 15:54 |
| willcooke | thanks everyone | 15:54 |
| jbicha | Laney: seb128: gnome-todo 3.20 also needs to be pulled from -proposed and rebuilt for the ical transition | 15:55 |
| rektide | seb128: unfortunately it looks like indicator-bluetooth does not expose a shared library, which indicator-loader3 seems to expect? i tried `/usr/lib/x86_64-linux-gnu/indicator-bluetooth/indicator-bluetooth-service` and got: | 15:57 |
| rektide | loading '/usr/lib/x86_64-linux-gnu/indicator-bluetooth/indicator-bluetooth-service' failed: Key file contains line '\u007fELF\u0002\u0001\u0001' which is not a key-value pair, group, or comment | 15:57 |
| rektide | erp, the command i tried was: /usr/lib/x86_64-linux-gnu/indicator-loader3 /usr/lib/x86_64-linux-gnu/indicator-bluetooth/indicator-bluetooth-servic | 15:58 |
| seb128 | rektide, no, you need to load /usr/share/unity/indicators/com.canonical.indicator.bluetooth | 15:58 |
| rektide | yess! alright! back in business | 15:59 |
| rektide | well something ran at least & is onscreen. ;) | 15:59 |
| seb128 | jbicha, Laney, deleted | 16:00 |
| Laney | hey jbicha, wb | 16:00 |
| jbicha | Laney: thanks :) | 16:00 |
| Laney | pitti: is swift still a bit busted? | 16:01 |
| pitti | Laney: not sure, why? (still in meeting) | 16:02 |
| Laney | ktnef should have new test results but looks like britney doesn't know about them | 16:02 |
| Laney | logs have it being put into swift | 16:02 |
| Laney | britney & autopkgtest.u.c | 16:02 |
| pitti | Laney: oh, I think the current failures are just the python RNG timeout again | 16:02 |
| Laney | pitti: You mean the killed workers? | 16:05 |
| pitti | <VirtSubproc>: failure: Timed out on waiting for ssh connection | 16:06 |
| Laney | pitti: ktnef didn't do that - it finished but the results aren't visible in the UIs | 16:06 |
| pitti | Laney: ^ this one | 16:06 |
| pitti | ah | 16:06 |
| pitti | Laney: ok, don't know; is it on swift? | 16:06 |
| Laney | yep | 16:06 |
| pitti | Laney: could just be debci not catching up | 16:06 |
| pitti | Laney: britney doesn't see it either? | 16:06 |
| pitti | Laney: worth looking into the britney logs then whether it gets some 404s or so | 16:06 |
| Laney | ah man, of course it's caught up now | 16:08 |
| Laney | maybe IS were still fixing it | 16:09 |
| rektide | i appear to only get some non-interactive list of categories when i run indicator-loader3. is there anything else i should be running, or some way to get access to the underlying services? | 16:09 |
| rektide | ah ha! i have to ru nthe service too, then it works! | 16:10 |
| Trevinho | ah seb128 one thing I forgot to mention is that I've done that patch for gtk crash involving ups... Once desrt can check the menutracker, it would be nice to SRU it | 16:18 |
| seb128 | Trevinho, k, feel free to get the SRU ready and go through ubuntu-sponsors, might help you to get some bonus point to get upload rights ;-) | 16:19 |
| Trevinho | seb128: debdiffs are already https://bugs.launchpad.net/ubuntu/+source/gtk+3.0/+bug/1296674 | 16:19 |
| ubot5 | Launchpad bug 1296674 in GTK+ "/usr/lib/unity/unity-panel-service:11:gtk_menu_tracker_remove_items:gtk_menu_tracker_model_changed:ffi_call_unix64:ffi_call:g_cclosure_marshal_generic" [Medium,In progress] | 16:19 |
| Trevinho | but... I probably should add some g_critical's for upstream... | 16:20 |
| seb128 | k | 16:20 |
| seb128 | if you don't segfault is that still going to load to user visible issues? | 16:21 |
| Trevinho | seb128: no, also is pretty unknown when the issue hapens | 16:21 |
| Trevinho | seb128: but it should be when remving some menu entries... Although since menus are shown only when requested I figure this won't create visual issues (personally I got the crash when not plying with anything but running an app) | 16:22 |
| seb128 | k | 16:25 |
| pitti | seb128: happy to bring a sleeping mattress | 16:25 |
| pitti | meeting marathon over, time for some dinner | 16:26 |
| seb128 | pitti, enjoy! | 16:26 |
| seb128 | we probably have some of those (need to check to be sure) | 16:26 |
| pitti | seb128: that'd be nice too; so that means we would essetnially have no hotel costs, and only negligible travel costs, so willcooke_ and slangasek shouldn't have to bear much budget | 16:26 |
| seb128 | right | 16:26 |
| pitti | seb128: and it sounds a lot more fun too! | 16:26 |
| seb128 | :-) | 16:27 |
| seb128 | indeed | 16:27 |
| pitti | seb128: so we either let Laney pick the location, or we play rock-paper-scissors-lizard-spock | 16:27 |
| seb128 | yeah | 16:27 |
| pitti | bbl | 16:27 |
| seb128 | enjoy your dinner! | 16:28 |
| Laney | not exacly sure when i'll be available, need to find out | 16:29 |
| Laney | I probably prefer end July | 16:29 |
| seb128 | same for me | 16:36 |
| desrt | irccloud has some new layout options. it kinda looks like telegram now. | 16:37 |
| * desrt kinda likes it | 16:37 | |
| Laney | night! | 17:02 |
| willcooke_ | cya Laney | 17:02 |
| larsu | desrt: it's *awesome* | 17:04 |
| larsu | I've been waiting for them to do something like this | 17:04 |
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| seb128 | night Laney! | 17:09 |
| Trevinho | seb128: about the snap script for launching gtk stuff and various deps parts for integrating with unity7, I think we should move them to the wiki to have just one source for our tools, isn't it? | 17:11 |
| seb128 | Trevinho, the wiki is not really a code hosting solution... | 17:15 |
| Trevinho | seb128: I do agree | 17:15 |
| seb128 | what's wrong with having the reference example in a vcs? | 17:15 |
| Trevinho | seb128: but I hope once a better place is decided, then everything will be moved there smoothly | 17:15 |
| seb128 | well the better place is snapcraft itself | 17:15 |
| seb128 | those are only hacks | 17:16 |
| seb128 | they shouldn't be needed and should go away over time | 17:16 |
| Trevinho | seb128: well, not sure... I think it should allow to have not-centralized parts | 17:16 |
| Trevinho | well, a centralized repo, with no-centralized parts | 17:16 |
| seb128 | why not | 17:17 |
| seb128 | but that's not a wiki | 17:17 |
| seb128 | unsure what's best meanwhile though | 17:17 |
| Trevinho | yeah, it was just because we're currently copy and pasting stuff around, and everytime we add/change something with the risk of losing the knowedge we get | 17:17 |
| seb128 | well, the wiki doesn't solve that | 17:17 |
| seb128 | it just add yet another location to update/keep in sync | 17:18 |
| Trevinho | while using a single repo, were we add generic scripts that can be loaded through a part in the wiki (as it is in for qt5 launcher), then we avoid a little this problem | 17:18 |
| seb128 | sorry but I don't understand the wiki part | 17:18 |
| seb128 | I'm all for having a common wrapper in a vcs | 17:18 |
| seb128 | that's sort of what the gnome-calculator example was supposed to be | 17:19 |
| seb128 | our common playground so we work on the same example | 17:19 |
| Trevinho | yeah, but once we want to test new things, (as it happened for hello unity) we have to reuse those scripts instead of getting the same from a shared repo | 17:19 |
| seb128 | you mean? | 17:21 |
| tseliot | mhall119: can you have mvo file a bug report about it, please? | 17:22 |
| seb128 | ideally if there are improvements to do they would be commited to the gnome-calculator version | 17:22 |
| seb128 | then you can copy that one over to your other source | 17:22 |
| seb128 | but sure we can have a reference vcs | 17:22 |
| seb128 | I just think a vcs is better than a wiki | 17:23 |
| alexarnaud | willcooke_: Hello ! How are you ? Do you have receive my mail about Compiz? | 17:23 |
| alexarnaud | https://bugs.launchpad.net/compiz/+bug/1541059 | 17:23 |
| alexarnaud | Trevinho: Do you know why this patch has not been treated by Canonical ? | 17:23 |
| ubot5 | Launchpad bug 1541059 in Compiz "feature patch for visually impaired. added mouse vertical and horizontal guides." [Undecided,New] | 17:23 |
| alexarnaud | Trevinho: it's resolve one of the most difficulty of visual impaired people that is to view their cursor | 17:24 |
| Trevinho | alexarnaud: ah I can check that | 17:24 |
| Trevinho | alexarnaud: patches are less visible in my workflow than MPs are | 17:25 |
| alexarnaud | Trevinho: OK, I note for the future | 17:25 |
| alexarnaud | thanks in advance for your feedback, you can ping me on freenode or ping my colleague ksamak about the code. I'm visual impaired and I responsible for the quality of the accessibility project at Hypra based on Compiz stack. I test all features submitted to Canonical. | 17:27 |
| Trevinho | alexarnaud: ok, good | 17:28 |
| Trevinho | alexarnaud: I'm preparing the MP right now | 17:28 |
| alexarnaud | Trevinho: MP on launchpad? If you can (I don't know the LP feature) I would like to be in copy ^^ (as CC in e-mail). | 17:29 |
| Trevinho | alexarnaud: ok, sure | 17:30 |
| Trevinho | alexarnaud: however things are easy as bzr branch lp:compiz; #hack; bzr commit -m message; bzr push lp:~your-user/compiz/fantastic-branch-name ;-) | 17:31 |
| Trevinho | alexarnaud: then bzr lp-propose or just use the web UI | 17:31 |
| Trevinho | alexarnaud: stuff is in https://code.launchpad.net/~unity-team/compiz/showmouse-guides/+merge/296125 | 17:41 |
| alexarnaud | Trevinho: thanks a lot for your rapidity. | 17:43 |
| alexarnaud | Trevinho: How can we made merge proposal on launchpad? | 17:43 |
| alexarnaud | Do we need to create branch on LP? | 17:44 |
| Trevinho | alexarnaud: I wrote that before | 17:47 |
| Trevinho | alexarnaud: 19:31:40 <Trevinho> alexarnaud: however things are easy as bzr branch lp:compiz; #hack; bzr commit -m message; bzr push lp:~your-user/compiz/fantastic-branch-name ;-) | 17:47 |
| mhall119 | tseliot: he must be EOD, can I file the bug with the info he gave me? | 17:49 |
| tseliot | mhall119: sure, maybe subscribe him to the bug report, so that he can add more details if needed | 17:50 |
| alexarnaud | Trevinho: Oh, sorry, I've not see your response. | 17:50 |
| tseliot | mhall119: oh, and please assign it to me | 17:51 |
| mhall119 | tseliot: what project? | 17:51 |
| tseliot | mhall119: nvidia-graphics-drivers-361 (the ubuntu source package) | 17:52 |
| willcooke_ | alexarnaud, hey, just checked - and no, I didn't sorry./ | 17:58 |
| alexarnaud | willcooke_: I've talked with didrocks, it seems we can also trying to collaborate with smspillaz. | 18:00 |
| alexarnaud | willcooke_: our first proposal have been approved by Trevinho few minutes ago (https://code.launchpad.net/~unity-team/compiz/showmouse-guides/+merge/296125). I believe we will propose all our work on EZoom and Mouse poll (Compiz plugins) soon. | 18:03 |
| alexarnaud | Trevinho: if you come a day in France I could pay you with beer :). | 18:04 |
| mhall119 | tseliot: https://bugs.launchpad.net/ubuntu/+source/nvidia-graphics-drivers-361/+bug/1587597 assigned to you and subscribed mvo, thanks | 18:05 |
| ubot5 | Launchpad bug 1587597 in nvidia-graphics-drivers-361 (Ubuntu) "Proprietary graphics not available to Snappy packages" [Undecided,New] | 18:05 |
| Trevinho | alexarnaud: ehehe, ok... I will.. Or next FOSDEM :-) | 18:05 |
| alexarnaud | Trevinho: I think I will :). | 18:07 |
| alexarnaud | See you tomorrow | 18:07 |
| willcooke_ | cool! | 18:08 |
| willcooke_ | back from dinner, but time to go. night all | 18:08 |
| tseliot | mhall119: thanks | 18:24 |
| ksamak | Trevinho: thx for looking again. | 20:08 |
| ksamak | Trevinho: btw, is it worth pinging again, fishing for info on 0.9.12.3 release? related to deb packaging | 20:09 |
| Trevinho | ksamak: yeah, you're totally right... I'll finish this last compiz landing and I'll do the release | 22:37 |
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