[06:58] <theblazehen> Maaz tell kulelu88 weird. Can you reproduce the issue?
[06:58] <Maaz> theblazehen: Got it, I'll tell kulelu88 on freenode
[07:06] <Kilos> guten morgen meine herren
[07:06] <Kilos> peeps
[07:08] <Kilos> sjoe taking forever to show hosts
[07:21] <anton_may> bonjourno
[07:22] <anton_may> ocme se va?
[07:22] <anton_may> come
[07:25] <theblazehen> hey Kilos
[07:26] <theblazehen> So dns tunneling is awesome :)
[07:26] <theblazehen> Actually getting a decent 600 kbit/s down
[07:30] <theblazehen> http://beta.speedtest.net/result/5367057450 woah.. Nedbank has a good internet connection, seeing as that's tunneled over dns
[07:30] <theblazehen> And I'm connected via wifi
[08:50] <mazal> Morning
[08:52] <mazal> inetpro copy that
[08:54] <mazal> Môre oom
[08:54] <Kilos> hi mazal 
[09:38] <mazal> maaz tell inetpro I think you hit the nail on the head with the dolphin one. I removed special characters from the folder name now and tried copying again. Successful copy without errors
[09:38] <Maaz> mazal: Got it, I'll tell inetpro on freenode
[09:43] <skokkk> 16.04 LTS server seems to be super stable low ram usage
[09:44] <skokkk> till when will it be supported? I'm thinking of throwing this machine in a datacenter and letting it do it's job for a few years
[09:44] <mazal> 2021 I think
[09:44] <skokkk> :O
[09:44] <mazal> I might be wrong though
[09:44] <mazal> But suppose to be 5 years
[09:45] <Kilos> ya 5 years
[09:45] <skokkk> I'm very impressed. it is using barely any ram idle and if I throw it some java shit to run it handles memory leaks properly
[09:46] <mazal> https://wiki.ubuntu.com/XenialXerus/ReleaseNotes
[09:46] <mazal> See support lifespan ^^
[09:47] <skokkk> oooh openstack
[09:47] <skokkk> php7 + nginx
[12:50] <gremble> Good afternoon
[12:52] <theblazehen> hey gremble
[12:54] <gremble> How are you theblazehen 
[12:54] <theblazehen> alright and you gremble?
[12:58] <gremble> I alright thank you
[12:58] <gremble> Trying to make a fencing glove xD
[14:40] <Kilos> ohi superfly wb
[14:51] <inetpro> good mornins
[14:51] <Kilos> hi inetpro 
[14:51] <inetpro> sjoe maar jy's vinnig vandag
[14:51] <Kilos> hmm...
[14:53] <Kilos> Maaz seen superfly 
[14:53] <Maaz> Kilos: superfly was last seen 6 days, 36 minutes and 29 seconds ago in #ubuntu-za on freenode [2016-05-25 07:17:29 PDT], and has been online on freenode since 2016-05-22 22:31:15 PDT
[14:54] <Kilos> shocking disgrace
[14:54] <Kilos> hope everything ok there superfly 
[17:57] <inetpro> Yoo-hoo
[17:57] <inetpro> why so quiet here?
[17:57] <Kilos> haha you bored
[17:58] <inetpro> well...
[17:58] <Kilos> the fly still hasnt greeted
[17:58] <Kilos> sigh
[17:58] <Kilos> wassup superfly 
[17:58] <Kilos> koud ne inetpro 
[17:59] <inetpro> that's an understatement
[18:00] <Kilos> and weather liar says 7°
[18:00] <inetpro> this morning was the much colder than that
[18:00] <Kilos> im sure its gonna frost tonight
[18:00] <inetpro> very near freezing point
[18:00] <Kilos> yes i think so too
[18:01] <Kilos> and i havent brought in my curry leaf tree or my avo
[18:01] <Kilos> sigh
[18:01] <inetpro> fingers were burning when I got to the office
[18:01] <Kilos> no gloves?
[18:01] <inetpro> with gloves and all
[18:01] <Kilos> mind you whe its cold gloves dont help either
[18:02] <inetpro> just need to keep them dry
[18:02] <Kilos> pity bikes need fingers 
[18:03] <Kilos> otherwise mittens made from good sheepskin could help
[18:10] <theblazehen> https://twitter.com/sadserver/status/735135582997909505 For RAID 5, 2, RAID 6, 3. :(
[18:15] <inetpro> theblazehen: eish, did that happen to you?
[18:15] <theblazehen> inetpro: Had a 4 disk RAID 5, 2 died. Downgraded to 2 disk RAID 1, 1 died yesterday :(
[18:16] <Kilos> wow
[18:16]  * theblazehen is now getting a 5 disk RAID 6
[18:16] <Kilos> what are you doing wrong
[18:16] <inetpro> if you have proper failover and loadbalancing plus a decent backup strategy in place I don't see the point of having RAID
[18:16] <Kilos> by died you means drives died?
[18:16] <theblazehen> Kilos: Buying seagate disks :)
[18:16] <theblazehen> Yes
[18:16] <theblazehen> inetpro: Full failover and loadbalancing is still overkill for a VM host at home, even for me..
[18:16] <Kilos> i use a few but they older 
[18:17] <theblazehen> I was gonna do backups though
[18:17] <theblazehen> At least the 1 drive still works
[18:17] <Kilos> post them to me 
[18:17] <Kilos> lemme fiddle and see
[18:17] <Kilos> are they just dead dead dead
[18:18] <Kilos> thats 3 drives in 2 weeks
[18:20] <theblazehen> 1 dead dead,1 kicked out of raid, 1 grub would freeze when doing ls (hd1,gpt1)/
[18:20] <theblazehen> All 5 TB drives :(
[18:20] <inetpro> yikes!
[18:21] <theblazehen> Cost just under R10k, got it on a makro special
[18:21] <Kilos> can you run badblocks on the one running
[18:21] <theblazehen> Kilos: Not gonna power it on new. Gonna get new raid set up, then copy my data off it
[18:22] <theblazehen> I can send you all 4 then. I don't trust the running one
[18:22] <Kilos> whew thats shocking
[18:22] <inetpro> Kilos: have you recovered stuff from disks in a RAID setup?
[18:22] <Kilos> nope
[18:23] <theblazehen> inetpro: Well, don't even need raid data recovery. I have data on the surviving disk
[18:23] <Kilos> raid is where both drives carry same data right
[18:23] <theblazehen> Kilos: Depends, that's RAID 1 where all have same data
[18:23] <Kilos> for safety sake
[18:23] <Kilos> theblazehen  they could have been handled badly
[18:24] <theblazehen> RAID 5 is where you can lose 1 drive and data is still fine
[18:24] <theblazehen> Kilos: Could be, yeah
[18:24] <Kilos> especially all from same place same time
[18:24] <theblazehen> Yup
[18:24] <Kilos> take them back
[18:24] <Kilos> how old are they
[18:24] <Kilos> there must be some gaurantee
[18:25] <theblazehen> maybe a month. But they were external, and had to break the case a bit to get the disks
[18:25] <Kilos> eish
[18:25] <Kilos> thats not a seagate prob its makro mishandling them
[18:26] <Kilos> are raid drives different from other drives
[18:26] <Kilos> i thought  raid was software
[18:26] <theblazehen> Kilos: Yes, raid is software
[18:26] <inetpro> https://community.spiceworks.com/how_to/24731-recovering-data-from-a-failed-raid-5-on-desktop-pcs
[18:27] <theblazehen> inetpro: Eh, no longer need that. I have all my data on the RAID 1 now. The RAID 5 was a failed openstack install.
[18:27] <inetpro> "Tirst things first - stop. Stop everything. Well, keep breathing, but stop everything else..."
[18:27] <theblazehen> Yeah
[18:28] <Kilos> lol
[18:28] <inetpro> oops... s/Tirst/First/
[18:29] <inetpro> theblazehen: whew... looks like you're still breating at least :-)
[18:29] <inetpro> breathing as well
[18:29] <theblazehen> inetpro: Yeah :) Until the next disk fails while I'm restoring the data I bet
[18:30] <inetpro> make a backup now
[18:30] <Kilos> you find the data
[18:30] <Kilos> ill try find what happened to drives
[18:30] <theblazehen> inetpro: I'm keeping it powered off
[18:31] <theblazehen> Backup should be quicker copying it to a raid anyway, higher write speed
[18:32] <inetpro> hmm, that might be a good point
[18:35]  * Kilos scrolls back
[18:36] <Kilos> holy smokes
[18:36] <Kilos> 5 TB drives
[18:36] <Kilos> why so big
[18:36] <Kilos> what are you serving
[18:37] <Kilos> inetpro where is symmetria
[18:37] <Kilos> Maaz seen symmetria
[18:37] <Maaz> Kilos: symmetria was last seen 14 days, 1 hour, 7 minutes and 7 seconds ago in #ubuntu-za on freenode [2016-05-17 10:30:08 PDT], and has been offline on freenode since 2016-05-18 13:45:41 PDT
[18:37] <inetpro> Kilos: why?
[18:37] <Kilos> why what
[18:37] <inetpro> 05/31 20:37:05 <Kilos> inetpro where is symmetria
[18:38] <Kilos> he should have more info on seagate quality
[18:38] <inetpro> you ask me or you making a statement?
[18:38] <Kilos> asking you
[18:38] <inetpro> you missed the "?"
[18:38] <Kilos> if i was making a statement i would ping you
[18:39] <Kilos> i dont do fancy characters often
[18:39] <Kilos> and you know that
[18:40] <Kilos> didnt you see i asked frog boots to not use caps in ibid
[18:40] <theblazehen> Kilos: Just future proof :)
[18:40] <inetpro> well....
[18:40]  * theblazehen is now getting 5x 1 TB disks in RAID 6
[18:40] <Kilos> pity you broke the cases open theblazehen 
[18:40] <theblazehen> Kilos: Yeah :(
[18:41] <Kilos> im sure seagate would have replaced them
[18:41] <Kilos> must be bad handling somewhere
[18:41] <theblazehen> yeah
[18:42] <Kilos> paddatrapper leer jy?
[18:43] <inetpro> some fail soon others fail later
[18:43] <Kilos> why
[18:43] <Kilos> i have old drives working here
[18:43]  * inetpro had a system fail the other day after 11 years of very productive operations
[18:44]  * theblazehen is off to bed night all
[18:44] <Kilos> 11 years i can accept
[18:44] <theblazehen> Yeah, the raid building killed them I think
[18:44] <Kilos> night theblazehen 
[18:44] <Kilos> sleep well
[18:44] <theblazehen> ty Kilos
[18:44] <Kilos> i need to learn about raid
[18:45] <inetpro> sooner or later they all fail at some point, best be prepared when it happens
[18:45] <Kilos> eish inetpro 
[18:45] <Kilos> they must last years man
[18:45] <inetpro> good night theblazehen
[18:46] <Kilos> this ssd im using here was a discard
[18:46] <Kilos> does raid over work drives?
[18:46] <Kilos> i wonder if the psu isnt faulty
[19:29] <paddatrapper> Kilos: ek speel hokkie. Ek het vanmiddag leër, en môre (hopefully) 
[19:30] <Kilos> jy moes slaap ook
[19:30] <Kilos> sien jou more
[19:30] <Kilos> night all. sleep tight
[19:33] <captine> evening all
[19:38] <paddatrapper> Hey captine
[20:44] <kulelu88> Hey mates
[20:46] <kulelu88> Maaz: make coffee
[20:46] <Maaz> kulelu88: Excuse me?
[20:46] <kulelu88> Maaz: coffee on
[20:46]  * Maaz washes some mugs
[20:50] <Maaz> Coffee's ready for kulelu88!
[20:50] <kulelu88> Maaz: biscuits
[20:50] <Maaz> kulelu88: Excuse me?