[00:02] <YankDownUnder> effectnet, If it's not started already, you can start it from the CLI
[00:03] <roundduckman> I installed it with encryped home, but later on I deleted the encrypted swap because a prompt for a password would show at the boot screen at times ever since I restored my system using testdisk, because I accidently wiped the partition table. I was planning to turn back on encrypted swap, but an error happened after using that ecryptfs-setup-swap command, saying "stat of /dev/mapper/cryptswap1 failed: no such file or directory"
[00:03] <effectnet> can i put this in my /etc/rc.local file??? ->   /etc/init.d/smbd restart
[00:03] <Die> net install is the best option for old computers
[00:03] <gtkminh90> hello
[00:03] <effectnet> YankDownUnder,
[00:04] <YankDownUnder> effectnet, I'm not sure where you're going with all of this, but simply, you just open a CLI and type "sudo service smbd restart"
[00:04] <Lasivian> Does anyone know how I can make a link from the Ubuntu Desktop to a folder on a networked windows drive?
[00:04] <effectnet> oh that is too old
[00:04] <Desu> Lasivian: short story: don't
[00:04] <Lasivian> I have a cifs link to the windows drive that functions, but I can;t link to it
[00:05]  * YankDownUnder thinks it's time for coffee
[00:05] <Lasivian> Desu: well, yeah.. I just want to easily open the 3D files that I use on my printer. I store them on the windows Raid.
[00:05] <Lasivian> Desu: The repetier software defaults to the desktop when I try to open a file
[00:05] <Lasivian> which drives me bonkers
[00:06] <Lasivian> I did it on my old printer controller, but I can;t remember how, lol
[00:06] <roundduckman> @Umeaboy I installed it with encryped home, but later on I deleted the encrypted swap because a prompt for a password would show at the boot screen at times ever since I restored my system using testdisk, because I accidently wiped the partition table. I was planning to turn back on encrypted swap, but an error happened after using that ecryptfs-setup-swap command, saying "stat of /dev/mapper/cryptswap1 failed: no such file or di
[00:06] <roundduckman> rectory" Somehow, though, after reversing my failed ecryptfs-setup-swap attempt, and recreating another unencrypted swap, my boot is slower.
[00:09] <Umeaboy> roundduckman: I have no idea really. Encryption and /swap is not my field of experteese.
[00:09] <roundduckman> @Umeaboy maybe it's the updates then.
[00:09] <Umeaboy> Google the issue.
[00:09] <Umeaboy> To see if someone else has had this issue as well
[00:09] <Umeaboy> Or add a new question on askubuntu.com with valid and detailed information.
[00:14] <roundduckman> ok
[00:16] <effectnet> i still have to open files on the other drive with the file manager before they are available.  weird.
[00:19] <Lasivian> **smackhead** I can just symlink the cifs mount in /media
[00:20] <Lasivian> sigh
[00:20] <Lasivian> I hate not knowing an OS, lol
[00:21] <CoolKevin> please is there somewhere I can report many problems, I keep having to shut down to do some things
[00:22] <Ben64> CoolKevin: as i said before, explain your issue in detail and wait for someone to help
[00:23] <CoolKevin> I have said many times the first problem, over a week ago
[00:23] <CoolKevin> ok I except you do not know
[00:24] <CoolKevin> but how long do I wait, I do have to work as well
[00:24] <Ben64> well it's pointless to come in here and not say what's actually the problem
[00:24] <CoolKevin> 1st one flash player keeps crashing
[00:24] <CoolKevin> in chrome and does not even work in firefox
[00:25] <Ben64> explain in more detail
[00:25] <CoolKevin> flash player is closing down
[00:25] <CoolKevin> that is all I get
[00:26] <CoolKevin> I do not get a report problem box anymore
[00:26] <sruli> flash player hasnt released a linux version in years, why do u need that crap? what wrong with the built in version of chrome?
[00:26] <CoolKevin> next problem, I cannot undo zip or rar files
[00:27] <CoolKevin> next problem, I keep having to type passwords all the time
[00:27] <Ben64> _explain_ the problem
[00:27] <Ben64> "cannot undo zip or rar files" using what? what message comes up when you try?
[00:28] <CoolKevin> I hit extract file, and nothing happens
[00:28] <CoolKevin> so I use file archive, and it closes
[00:28] <Ben64> ok, i'm done. i'm not going to fight with you to get information
[00:29] <CoolKevin> that is all there is
[00:29] <CoolKevin> I do not have any information, because I am not getting any from the O/S
[00:30] <CoolKevin> I try to do something, and it does not do it
[00:31] <CoolKevin> all I am asking now is there somewhere I can report it, because it is very clear it cannot be answered here
[00:31] <Ben64> it can, IF YOU EXPLAIN EXACTLY WHAT IS GOING ON
[00:31] <CoolKevin> ok
[00:32] <bazhang> CoolKevin, try with unp
[00:32] <CoolKevin> I got fed up with the flash player question, it just shuts itself down when playing you tube
[00:33] <bazhang> !info unp | CoolKevin
[00:33] <CoolKevin> and when playing in goodgamestudios, online game of war
[00:33] <tgm4883> CoolKevin: if you are talking about the built in archive extracter, I believe that is "file-roller"
[00:34] <CoolKevin> and I tried ark as well
[00:34] <tgm4883> !bug
[00:34] <CoolKevin> the bot just sent a message, no idea what that is
[00:35] <xubuntu> f
[00:35] <tgm4883> CoolKevin: "ubuntu-bug file-roller" would be how you file a bug against it
[00:35] <tgm4883> CoolKevin: although looking at all your issues, it feels like hardware to me
[00:35] <CoolKevin> new HDD
[00:35] <CoolKevin> and no
[00:36] <CoolKevin> I can close down here and use an old system to solve some issues
[00:36] <CoolKevin> I got 3 HDDs I can fall back on
[00:38] <hid|ninja> hi
[00:38] <CoolKevin> lol, seriously the link you gave me to report does not even open
[00:39] <hid|ninja> how can i see the content of lot of files in a directory?
[00:39] <hid|ninja> cd /ubuntu-f
[00:39] <tgm4883> CoolKevin: hardware issues can be more than just the hard drive...
[00:40] <tgm4883> CoolKevin: and the link opens just fine here
[00:40] <zjhxmjl> hi,guys! how to add the " cal++ headers" in ~/.bashrc
[00:40] <zjhxmjl> http://paste.ubuntu.com/16855007/
[00:41] <CoolKevin> ok thank you, I will have to re-install the old O?S, that works
[00:41] <CoolKevin> thank you for you time
[00:41] <tgm4883> CoolKevin: YW
[00:41] <zjhxmjl> i want to program to find the header file
[00:42] <SchrodingersScat> zjhxmjl: and this thing you installed is actually at /opt/AMDAPP ?
[00:43] <zjhxmjl> SchrodingersScat:yes
[00:43] <zjhxmjl> but the program cannot find the header files
[00:44] <zjhxmjl> https://forums.kali.org/showthread.php?19285-Installing-ATI-drivers-AMD-APP-SDK-CAL-and-Pyrit
[00:44] <zjhxmjl> SchrodingersScat: i follow this guide
[00:45] <zjhxmjl> but i find the cal.h header file not in lib/x86_64, it's in  /opt/AMDAPP/include/CAL directory
[00:47] <SchrodingersScat> zjhxmjl: and you ran the last bit, source ~/.bashrc ?
[00:47] <majikman> i'm having an issue with my 16.04 laptop having abnormally high latency when pinging from another host but normal latency when pinging from the 16.04 laptop. where could i start to troubleshoot this issue?
[00:47] <zjhxmjl> SchrodingersScat:yes
[00:51] <Twirl> hey guys, is there a way to set a key combo to disable the touchpad?
[00:52] <cristobal> Twirl, touch pad indicator
[00:52] <cristobal> Twirl, https://launchpad.net/touchpad-indicator
[00:53] <Twirl> alright
[00:55] <cyberone2> lels
[00:57] <prelude2004c> hey guys.. looking for help with xorg and nvidia
[00:57] <prelude2004c> Loading extension GLX fails
[00:59] <OerHeks> prelude2004c, you need to give more details, what ubuntu version, what driver version etc
[01:00] <prelude2004c> i am using the latest driver.. i been at it for hours.. i am about to rip out my hair
[01:00] <prelude2004c> root@enc1-3:~# vdpauinfo
[01:00] <prelude2004c> display: :0   screen: 0
[01:00] <prelude2004c> Xlib:  extension "NV-GLX" missing on display ":0".
[01:00] <prelude2004c> Xlib:  extension "NV-GLX" missing on display ":0".
[01:00] <prelude2004c> Error creating VDPAU device: 1
[01:00] <OerHeks> !paste
[01:01] <prelude2004c> sorry about that
[01:01] <prelude2004c> NVIDIA-SMI 364.15
[01:01] <Queenslayer> what's this about freenode moving over to lib irc
[01:02] <somsip> Queenslayer: probably one to ask in #freenode
[01:02] <Queenslayer> somsip, I think it affrects everyone though
[01:02] <Queenslayer> *affects
[01:02] <prelude2004c> OerHeks any idea ?
[01:02] <somsip> Queenslayer: offtopic for here
[01:03] <OerHeks> prelude2004c, driver from https://launchpad.net/~graphics-drivers/+archive/ubuntu/ppa  ??
[01:04] <SuperPotatoMann> When I try to download a file from firefox, like Skype or chrome, I choose the Ubuntu download, click install and nothing happens... What do I do?
[01:04] <prelude2004c> i pulled it from nvidia site
[01:05] <OerHeks> oh vulkan
[01:05] <prelude2004c> i am going to try https://launchpad.net/ubuntu/+archive/primary/+files/nvidia-graphics-drivers-361_361.45.11.orig.tar.gz
[01:14] <warlord> hello
[01:19] <ricardo_> hola ?
[01:24] <prelude2004c> tried what you stated and nothing worked :(
[01:26] <gtkminh90> how do install virtualbox ?
[01:28] <somsip> gtkminh90: sudo apt-get install virtualbox
[01:35] <gtkminh90> somsip: Thanks
[01:46] <tominator88> Hi
[01:46] <tominator88> This is my first time, how do I use this?
[01:46] <somsip> tominator88: you ask support questions, and people will answer if they can. If youjust want to chat, type "/j #ubuntu-offtopic"
[01:47] <tominator88> Alright, cool
[01:47] <tominator88> So, i can simply ask for help right here?
[01:47] <prelude2004c> OerHeks... needing help here
[01:47] <tominator88> It would seem so
[01:47] <prelude2004c> you can.. hopefully you get a response
[01:47] <tominator88> Thank you
[01:48] <tominator88> So, I am using a flashdrive with Ubuntu on it to take from computer to computer, but it only works on a few computers, I can give details.
[01:48] <pantato> hi
[01:49] <pantato> i broke my rtorrent package by trying to run a version of libtorrent/rtorrent outside of the package system
[01:49] <Die> Is opt where you extract files when compiling from source?
[01:49] <pantato> can anyone give me a hand?
[01:51] <tominator88> quit
[01:51] <pantato> i get "rtorrent: symbol lookup error: rtorrent: undefined symbol: _ZN7torrent11thread_base8m_globalE
[01:51] <pantato> "
[01:53] <somsip> Die: http://stackoverflow.com/questions/12649355/what-does-opt-mean-as-in-the-opt-directory-is-it-an-abbreviation
[01:55] <tominator88> Hiya!
[01:55] <tominator88> Can someone give me a hand? This is my first time
[01:55] <somsip> tominator88: ask your real question
[01:56] <deadmund> tominator88: what do you need help with?
[01:56] <tominator88> I need help with a standalone ubuntu flashdrive that I'm hoping to take around with me. It only shows as a bootable option on some computers
[01:56] <pantato> tominator88: Rufus for Windows is a usb stick creator that I know of that never doesn't work
[01:57] <pantato> my 2 cents
[01:57] <deadmund> tominator88: it works on some computers?  What happens on the other computers?  Did you get into the bios of those other computers?
[01:57] <Guest82508> Hello
[01:57] <pantato> Guest82508: hi
[01:57] <Guest82508> I know this is probably not the right place to ask this
[01:57] <Guest82508> but
[01:58] <Guest82508> do you know why cant I access any .onion irc links
[01:58] <somsip> Guest82508: it's not the right place to ask
[01:58] <tominator88> It works on the majority of 64bit PC's and seems to work on every mac after 2013. Unfortunately, It doesn't work on any others.
[01:58] <somsip> tominator88: does it not work on 32bit machines by any chance?
[01:58] <Guest82508> So i reckoin that is just a support channel
[01:58] <Guest82508> ?
[01:58] <Guest82508> D
[01:59] <tominator88> For example, a 2012 macbook pro, and a windows 10 Lenovo
[01:59] <tominator88> It does not.
[01:59] <somsip> tominator88: is it a 64bit install?
[01:59] <somsip> Guest82508: yes - ubuntu support. Try a tor channel
[01:59] <somsip> !alis | Guest82508
[01:59] <tominator88> Yes, x86-64
[01:59] <somsip> tominator88: that's why it doesn't run on a 32bit machine
[02:00] <tominator88> Yes, sorry, I mean it doesn't work on some 64 bit
[02:00] <WattisLove> Hi, when I get this box "ubuntu has experienced an error... send a report" am I really actually sending a report? How do I see the report I'm seeing?
[02:00] <somsip> tominator88: yes - lag in answers I think. Probably a UEFI thing then
[02:00] <tominator88> I understand the 32 bit 64 bit difference
[02:00] <deadmund> tominator88: In order to boot USB, you have to go into the bios of the target machine and tell it to boot from USB and to boot USB before the harddrive.  Many computers will be set by default to boot from the interal HDD BEFORE they even look at the USB devices.  Could that be the problem??
[02:01] <tominator88> yes! is there any way for me to insert a UEFI boot into grub or something?
[02:01] <somsip> tominator88: that's not the issue, AIUI
[02:01] <somsip> !uefi | tominator88
[02:01] <tominator88> No, it does not show on the systems at all. A live CD does work however, as well as a clonedisk USB
[02:01] <deadmund> tominator88: What?  UEFI boot is a standard implemented by the hardware, it's not in the USB drive (the USB drive must support and it newer ubuntu editions do support it)
[02:02] <tominator88> I must have some vocabulary mixed up then...
[02:02] <tominator88> Basically, my Ubuntu flash drive is not appearing on some computers, even with USB boot and all enabled.
[02:03] <tominator88> Is there any easy way around this?
[02:03] <somsip> tominator88: nothing else immediately springs to mind then
[02:03] <deadmund> tominator88: I'm also not sure.  You'd have to figure it out on a case by case basis.
[02:03] <tominator88> It's quite unusual.
[02:03] <deadmund> tominator88: Is there anything in common with all the PCs that it doesn't work on??
[02:04] <tominator88> I cannot get it to work on one windows 10 PC, and any mac before 2013
[02:05] <tominator88> I have seen it work on a computer with UEFI(??)
[02:05] <arunpyasi> EriC^^: hello are you around ?
[02:05] <somsip> tominator88: what filesystem?
[02:05] <tominator88> What way? The flashdrive?
[02:06] <somsip> tominator88: yes
[02:06] <Bashing-om> tominator88: http://ubuntuforums.org/showthread.php?t=2213631&highlight=usb <- Portable installed system that boots in UEFI as well as in BIOS mode .
[02:06] <tominator88> It's split into 3 partitions, and they all run ext4 or fat32
[02:07] <tominator88> Does it have anything to do with grub?
[02:08] <somsip> tominator88: I'd guess at something in the MBR or boot sector that some computers aren't happy about. But no real idea so I'll stop guessing
[02:08] <tominator88> Alright. Thanks for your time, and thanks for the link Bashing-om
[02:08] <james__> I can't seem to get a module blacklisted
[02:08] <tominator88> I'll go off of that. I really appreciate the help. Good first impression of the community.
[02:09] <tominator88> How do I exit Xchat?
[02:12] <arunpyasi> Hello people, is it possible to connect and recover a HDD without restarting the PC ?
[02:12] <somsip> !recovery | arunpyasi
[02:12] <somsip> arunpyasi: ignore that
[02:12] <somsip> !recover | arunpyasi
[02:14] <deadmund> My ubuntu 14.04 install is unable to play WMV files with dragon player (KDE) or vlc player.  I have ubuntu-restricted-extras installed.  Any ideas?
[02:14] <arunpyasi> somsip: the thing is, I have two HDD, one which boots normally, another which seems crashed. The problem is, The HDD where I had installed Ubuntu, after it rebooted, I get some error Out of memory..... systemd-udev..... and Killing process.... etc when I boot using that HDD and the same error comes when I boot Ubuntu using an USB. But when I replace the HDD, I don't get any error and works fine. So, I can now declare that my previous HDD had problem.
[02:15] <arunpyasi> How can I resolve it ? How can I recover my files and how do I format it again ? Please help ! When I insert both HDD and try booting with a good HDD, it gives the same error too.
[02:16] <somsip> arunpyasi: boot normally, copy your files over, format the drive. Either it's that simple or I don't understand your problem
[02:16] <sifrid> asd
[02:17] <arunpyasi> somsip: The problem is, I cannot boot normally when I insert that crashed HDD
[02:17] <arunpyasi> I get the same error
[02:17] <somsip> arunpyasi: but you say you one HDD boots normally
[02:18] <arunpyasi> somsip: yeah but when I connect that crashed HDD and boot with my normal HDD, I get the same error/stucks the boot after grub is load.
[02:19] <somsip> arunpyasi: so the disk is dead. You may not be able to anything without resorting to a professional data recovery service
[02:21] <Bashing-om> deadmund: Restricted formats // did you run : ' sudo /usr/share/doc/libdvdread4/install-css.sh ' ? see: https://help.ubuntu.com/community/RestrictedFormats/PlayingDVDs .
[02:22] <deadmund> Bashing-om: Well, I'll try, but the file in question is not a DVD
[02:23] <arunpyasi> somsip: I don't need data recovery TBH. I just want to check the health of the HDD and format it if possible
[02:23] <Bashing-om> deadmund: K, however WMV, that is a restricted video format .
[02:27] <deadmund> arunpyasi: get an ide / sata -> usb adapter, plug it into any working PC.  Diagnose and format to your heart's content.
[02:27] <deadmund> Bashing-om: thanks
[02:30] <arunpyasi> deadmund: thanks man ! I was expecting the same solution. I think I need to get an adapter today from market.
[02:30] <somsip> arunpyasi: it sounds like it is dead.
[02:30] <deadmund> arunpyasi: they're very cheap.  One of the best purchases I've ever made.
[02:31] <arunpyasi> deadmund: whats the estimated price ?
[02:31] <arunpyasi> how much it usually costs ?
[02:31] <deadmund> arunpyasi: under $20.0
[02:31] <deadmund> usd
[02:35] <arunpyasi> deadmund: I have just made a Hiren's Boot CD, I am gonna test it out if it boots or not.
[02:35]  * arunpyasi has some hope it recover it.
[02:37] <manhdv> guys, I am using Ubuntu 16.04 on Asus laptop, and my ubuntu keep warning usb port overcurrent, how to get rit of it?
[02:38] <Guest53142> i can't seem to keep the radeon module from loading. i tried modprobe.blacklist=radeon in grub AND adding it to /etc/modprobe.d/blacklist
[02:38] <manhdv> The warnings display when Ubuntu starting up
[02:38] <Bashing-om> manhdv: Bad USB device ? replace it ?
[02:39] <Guest53142>  Kernel driver in use: pci-stub      Kernel modules: radeon
[02:39] <mundus2018> Can someone help me try ot install something? :x noob
[02:39] <Guest53142> mundus2018, what do you want to install?
[02:39] <somsip> mundus2018: give details
[02:39] <mundus2018> Im trying to install this on an Rpi, https://github.com/ChristopheJacquet/PiFmRds
[02:39] <mundus2018> I followed the install directions
[02:40] <jamesarch> and…………？
[02:40] <somsip> mundus2018: you need the pi channel
[02:40] <somsip> !alis | mundus2018
[02:40] <mundus2018> ok
[02:42] <manhdv> @Bashing-om: as I search on google it's ubuntu fake warnings
[02:43] <mundus2018> what could this mean? https://gyazo.com/8f5abf7d350d4b42cf1f0d236f8a6177
[02:43] <somsip> mundus2018: it means youre still in the wrong channel
[02:44] <mundus2018> Ive asked in the pi channel
[02:44] <somsip> mundus2018: if youre running ubuntu and installing standard packages, we can help. Not running and compiling for yourself, it's not supported here
[02:44] <Bashing-om> mundus2018: Does it happen with other devices connected ,,, and what results when this problematic device is connected to another computer ?
[02:45] <mundus2018> SOrry if this is the wrong place, its just I cant fins help! Ill leave
[02:45] <mundus2018> What do you mean by other devices connected Bashing-om ?
[02:45] <somsip> mundus2018: ask the maintainer of the package on github. Create an issue.
[02:45] <somsip> Bashing-om: manhdv maybe?
[02:45] <Guest53142> i can't seem to keep the radeon module from loading. i tried modprobe.blacklist=radeon in grub AND adding it to /etc/modprobe.d/blacklist
[02:45] <Jordan_U> manhdv: What specifically makes you think that the errors are spurious?
[02:47] <manhdv> Jordan_U: Im not sure, but my usb work correctly
[02:47] <doc|laptop> ker
[02:47] <Die> Does samba offer more security than ftp
[02:47] <somsip> Die: offtopic for here. Try #ubuntu-offtopic but better asked ina security channel
[02:47] <Bashing-om> somsip: Yes .. bad highlight . Thanks and sorry mundus2018 .
[02:47] <manhdv> Jordan_U: There is no error if I install windows on my laptop
[02:47] <somsip> Bashing-om: np :)
[03:00] <seto> gah why does ktorent suck so bad .... lol
[03:12] <seto> huh
[03:13] <seto> weird nick serv not telling me i identified
[03:16] <Bashing-om> seto: Maybe just a glitch, happens to me sometimes . I do ' /msg nickserv regain <nick> <password> in the secure status window so password is not broadcast .
[03:17] <OerHeks> irc, good ol'1988 technology
[03:18] <doc|work> anyone got docker running under virtualbox? I'm curious what your cpu usage is for idle processes.
[03:19] <OerHeks> lolz a vm in a vm ..
[03:19] <OerHeks> next test: virtualbox in docker?
[03:19] <doc|work> OerHeks, right, because it's going to make cleaning everything up a lot easier
[03:20] <doc|work> notice you're running out of diskspace? Delete vm, start over.
[03:20] <doc|work> and docker isn't a vm
[03:20] <smd75jr> virtualbox in docker in virtualbox?
[03:20] <doc|work> no, docker in virtualbox
[03:21] <OerHeks> oke,  operating-system-level virtualization .. stil funny what you try to accomplish
[03:21] <doc|work> not really
[03:24] <Jordan_U> manhdv: Please pastebin the exact error message. Is this a dual boot machine?
[03:33] <ritas> can somebody help my clamtk found 8 possible threats and dont delete them
[03:38] <FLeiXiuS> In 16.04 how are you guys connecting to exchange mail servers?  evolution-mapi no longer exists?
[03:43] <OerHeks> evolution-mapi was deprecated and replaced by evolution-ews http://askubuntu.com/a/776690
[03:45] <FLeiXiuS> OerHeks, Thanks, I'll give it a shot.
[03:50] <filifunk> Hi -- I tried to free up space on my dual boot by getting rid of a "drive" in windows that was corrupt.  I try to get back on my computer using ubuntu and I get a grub rescue screen.  I've tried some answers online but not much luck.  Anyone been through this before?
[03:51] <drown> filifunk, what have you tried so far?
[03:51] <FLeiXiuS> filifunk, Go over your hard drive layout.  How many drives, what partitions do they have, etc.
[03:51] <Jordan_U> filifunk: Are you sure that you didn't delete your Ubuntu partition?
[03:51] <filifunk> so when I type in ls
[03:51] <filifunk> I get quite a few different hard drives
[03:52] <filifunk> I tried to go through each one by using ls (hdx,y)/boot/grub
[03:52] <filifunk> and I get "error: unknown filesystem" for all of them
[03:53] <filifunk> Jordan_U, I don't think so, but it's possible
[03:54] <drown> what are the filesystem types listed as>?
[03:54] <drown> how many partitions/drives do you have?
[03:54] <drown> and what kind of output do you get for blkid
[03:55] <filifunk> hmmm...all of them are like this: (hd1,gpt8) (hd1,gpt7) all the way to gpt1, then there is als (hd0) and (hd1).  "Unknown command 'blkid"
[03:57] <drown> okay
[03:57] <drown> so gpt is the partition table type not the FS type
[03:57] <drown> so you have 8 driveS?
[03:57] <drown> erh
[03:57] <drown> partitions?
[03:57] <drown> and 2 drives?
[03:58] <YankDownUnder> ...could just a boot a live USB and use gparted to figure out what's what...if that's not been mentioned as of yet...
[03:58] <drown> yeah seriously that's the way to go here
[03:58] <filifunk> yes I believe so.  I have my ISO on my usb and I started my laptop with it in and it still went to this grub rescue screen
[03:58] <drown> well
[03:59] <drown> you need to intervene and boot to usb
[03:59] <drown> when it goes to grub it's booting off the HDD bootloader
[03:59] <drown> I'm assuming you've booted to USB before right?
[04:00] <YankDownUnder> filifunk, When the machine is booting up, did you use the "Boot menu" via your BIOS? (Might be a good idea just to check the settings in BIOS - and then when booting to the live USB, hit ESC and make sure it's not booting to the grub on the HD0)
[04:00] <filifunk> yes, I have, but that was a long time ago.  Am I supposed to press f1 or something when I restart
[04:00] <drown> it's different for all machines
[04:00] <YankDownUnder> filifunk, Depends on your machine's BIOS, bro.
[04:00] <drown> on mine it's f9
[04:01] <YankDownUnder> Double-check. Being redundant is always a good thing. Saves a person from doing silly things...or at least, in most cases it does...
[04:01] <drown> what model is the machine?
[04:02] <filifunk> it's an old ASUS.  I just tried to turn off my computer then turn it back on, and there is no BIOS screen or booting screen it goes strait to grub menu
[04:02] <FLeiXiuS> F1, F10, DEL, F8
[04:02] <FLeiXiuS> One of them will work
[04:02] <prelude2004c> I think i am soooo done with this OS
[04:02] <prelude2004c> 6 hours later.. still " Xlib:  extension "NV-GLX" missing on display ":0". "
[04:02] <prelude2004c> 20 reboots, 50 purges... 100 reinstalls
[04:02] <filifunk> ok so I'm just going to try all of those when I turn my computer on
[04:02] <FLeiXiuS> prelude2004c, Its not the OS fault ;-)
[04:03] <prelude2004c> its a pain in the ass is what it is :*(
[04:03] <FLeiXiuS> prelude2004c, welcome to linux.
[04:03] <prelude2004c> i have tried all the google links.. none of it wokrs
[04:03] <filifunk> I just pushed a bunch of buttons and somehow got my BIOS screen
[04:03] <FLeiXiuS> prelude2004c, Do you have a display at all?
[04:03] <prelude2004c> its a remote server
[04:03] <prelude2004c> i have to get vdpau working and it needs X running
[04:04] <FLeiXiuS> prelude2004c, remote server, so you're attempting a remote X session?
[04:04] <prelude2004c> nope.. just want to run it so my ffmpeg library ( VDPAU ) can access decoding on my nvidia card
[04:05] <FLeiXiuS> Pastie `lspci` and `lshw` and `dpkg -l |grep nvidia` and ... lsmod
[04:05] <zach> Hello?
[04:06] <filifunk> ok, just booting from my usb.  thanks guys, hopefully I figure this out
[04:06] <YankDownUnder> filifunk, Sometimes, just hitting "esc" and like "f2" will cause the machine to get to BIOS...and then you can change stuff in the BIOS - like the time for how long the POST screen stays up, what HD to boot from (or removable device) etc etc etc...
[04:06] <YankDownUnder> filifunk, After you've gotten to the desktop, you can "ALT-F2" and type "sudo gparted" => should also WRITE DOWN what you find...hmm?
[04:07] <filifunk> ok, will do YankDownUnder
[04:07] <YankDownUnder> filifunk, Good luck, bro.
[04:07] <filifunk> Thanks YankDownUnder!
[04:08] <FLeiXiuS> brb
[04:08] <Bashing-om> prelude2004c: Nvidia ? and in all these re-installs .. did you remove the config file /etc/X11/xorg.conf ?
[04:08] <FLeiXiuS> Bashing-om, He's headless.
[04:09] <prelude2004c> http://pastebin.com/raw/AiH3JDrH
[04:09] <prelude2004c> remove the config... ehhh.. i did everything
[04:10] <FLeiXiuS> prelude2004c, Ugh oh, you're using a laptop?
[04:10] <prelude2004c> ?? laptop ?
[04:10] <prelude2004c> no
[04:11] <prelude2004c> see pastebin
[04:12] <FLeiXiuS> prelude2004c, Ok, I expected a k4200m but it's just a k4200.
[04:12] <prelude2004c> yup.. K4200 is correct
[04:13] <prelude2004c> i mean 6 hours later.. what have i done to deserve this :(
[04:13] <drown> linux is like god
[04:13] <FLeiXiuS> How are you running ffmpeg and how was it installed?
[04:13] <drown> it tests you in horrible ways, but the lesson learned enriches you beyond your years
[04:14] <prelude2004c> ffmpeg is compiled from git.. ffmpeg is not even important yet until i get glxinfo & vdpauinfo going
[04:14] <prelude2004c> only when vdpauinfo gets me a result can i even attempt to use it
[04:15] <FLeiXiuS> prelude2004c, So, you're decoding on a remote machine without an X session right?
[04:15] <prelude2004c> yes.. its just a server
[04:15] <michaelrose> does unity use gnome-session under the hood?
[04:15] <YankDownUnder> What is funny about that - especially in many years of retrospect, y'all have NO idea what it was like having to deal with driver installation or graphics stuff "way back when"...getting the source code and compiling FOR HOURS just to make a single item work...and graphics cards were the ultimate pain... :)
[04:15] <prelude2004c> i am decoding with CPU > nvenc .. i am tyring to decode on the card too which requires vdpau for the hwaccel
[04:15] <drown> michaelrose, yes
[04:15] <prelude2004c> vdpau wants X
[04:15] <michaelrose> thank you
[04:15] <drown> michaelrose, so gnome-session-quit will work
[04:16] <drown> michaelrose, if that's what your looking for?
[04:16] <FLeiXiuS> prelude2004c, vpdau wants X?  Says who?
[04:16] <drown> FLeiXiuS, I think for the input/output interfacing
[04:16] <michaelrose> drown, its close enough, not worth explaining, that was just the info I was looking for
[04:17] <drown> michaelrose, lol good luck.
[04:17] <FLeiXiuS> drown, ffmpeg doesnt care when it comes to decoding
[04:17] <prelude2004c> i dont know... said vdpauinfo
[04:18] <drown> prelude2004c, hmm...
[04:18] <prelude2004c> needs to connect to display:0 no ?
[04:18] <prelude2004c> unless you know something that i dont
[04:18] <drown> prelude2004c, if it's headless though dipsplays shouldn't be involved
[04:18] <FLeiXiuS> prelude2004c, What is it you're trying to do?  Let's understand the end goal first.
[04:19] <prelude2004c> I need to use vdpau for the decoding library to use the nvidia hardware accell
[04:19] <FLeiXiuS> prelude2004c, That still doesnt tell me what you're trying to do.
[04:19] <prelude2004c> https://trac.ffmpeg.org/wiki/HWAccelIntro
[04:20] <prelude2004c> i am trying to decode h264 video on the video card not on the CPUs
[04:20] <prelude2004c> because i am actually transcoding from one source to another format
[04:20] <prelude2004c> so... right now encoding is working fine through nvenc ... the decoding is being handled by t he CPU.. which takes up too many resources
[04:20] <prelude2004c> vdpau takes care of that by using the nvidia card for decoding
[04:20] <prelude2004c> if you can get it working :(
[04:21] <FLeiXiuS> prelude2004c, What are the sources?  Files?  PVR components, etc?
[04:21] <prelude2004c> live TS streams
[04:22] <drown> prelude2004c, television series?
[04:22] <drown> prelude2004c, tv shows?
[04:22] <FLeiXiuS> And you're outputting to a file?
[04:22] <prelude2004c> live tv yes
[04:22] <prelude2004c> yes i am segmenting to h264 HLS
[04:23] <drown> prelude2004c, the file is local?
[04:23] <FLeiXiuS> You know the myth tools will do most of this for you, if not all.
[04:23] <FLeiXiuS> But thats not answering your original question.
[04:23] <drown> prelude2004c, I've never used them, but he's probably right about that.
[04:24] <drown> prelude2004c, they were made with your situation in mind.
[04:24] <FLeiXiuS> mythffmpeg
[04:25] <prelude2004c> drown not sure what you mean by local but... they are locally written files yes
[04:25] <prelude2004c> so, the issue is installation of the NVidia drivers with GLX support
[04:25] <FLeiXiuS> prelude2004c, So you basically, want to record live TV to files?
[04:25] <prelude2004c> the nvidia drivers are working.. i actually see them and nvidia-smi reports .. all is well in the world
[04:26] <FLeiXiuS> Sounds like a perfect job for myth.
[04:26] <prelude2004c> the issues is this GLX extension that will not load
[04:26] <drown> prelude2004c,
[04:26] <prelude2004c> fleixius.. none of this is important.. i have been doing live tv for years... and using Nvtranscoder already and it si working...
[04:27] <drown> prelude2004c,  you need to edit the module file.
[04:27] <prelude2004c> the issue is simply that i want to test with vdpau vs Nvtranscoder ( which does both encoding and decoding at the same time )
[04:27] <prelude2004c> edit module file?
[04:27] <drown> prelude2004c, There should be a text file which shows all of the Nvidia functions that are set to load
[04:27] <FLeiXiuS> prelude2004c, Sure - but why re-invent the wheel?  Your compile of ffmpeg sounds like its not loading the correct extensions.
[04:27] <prelude2004c> hum?
[04:28] <drown> prelude2004c,  I've never seen it as an actual conf file, but with the Nvidia Xsettings gui panel they are all listed there
 i am not too sure i understand where you are going with this
[04:29] <prelude2004c> guys.. clearly nobody here has experience with ffmpeg :P .. i get that.. that is not even up for discussion .. all i am trying to do is get glxinfo and vdpauinfo working
[04:29] <drown> all of the Nvidia GLX libs and functions
[04:29] <prelude2004c> the rest will work itself out :)
[04:29] <prelude2004c> i have used vdpau before.. this is  not the first time i have done this
[04:29] <drown> I use ffmpeg for transcoding audio.
[04:29] <prelude2004c> what i dont get is why on this ubuntu 14.04 i can't get the drivers loaded correctly
[04:29] <drown> from a server to ALL of my clients.
[04:30] <drown> prelude2004c, on the 14.04 install, that is the server right?
[04:30] <prelude2004c> yes server
[04:30] <Ben64> ffmpeg isn't even in 14.04
[04:30] <drown> prelude2004c, and it has no actual display? It's a truly headless setup?
[04:30] <prelude2004c> trully headless
[04:30] <drown> prelude2004c, oh god...
[04:31] <drown> prelude2004c, ffmpeg is not in the repos but it can easily be installed or compiled
[04:31] <Ben64> and i'm pretty sure the avconv that comes with 14.04 doesn't have hw accel support
[04:31] <drown> prelude2004c, Do you have anconv?
[04:32] <drown> dpkg -l | grep aconv
[04:32] <drown> err avconv
[04:33] <FLeiXiuS> GLX is only needed for X.
[04:33] <prelude2004c> no i dont have avconv
[04:33] <FLeiXiuS> Therefore, its not going to 'load' when there's no X present.
[04:33] <drown> FLeiXiuS, exactly.
[04:33] <FLeiXiuS> What are the ffmpeg errors
[04:33] <prelude2004c> your saying i can use some avconv to decode with the hardware ?
[04:34] <drown> prelude2004c, it's meant to be used locally, it wasn't designed for your use case.
[04:35] <prelude2004c> hum.. i am not following at all
[04:36] <prelude2004c> oh i get it.. your saying use avconv to decode
[04:36] <drown> prelude2004c, umm
[04:36] <prelude2004c> but i can't because source is UDP
[04:36] <drown> prelude2004c, avconv doesn't use hw accel
[04:36] <prelude2004c> ok so that doesn't help me at all
[04:36] <FLeiXiuS> <- still waiting for ffmpeg errors.
[04:36] <drown> prelude2004c, according to Ben64
[04:37] <drown> prelude2004c, but, the thing is avconv is like a replacement in 14.04 for ffmpeg
[04:37] <drown> prelude2004c, as far as I remember, so I just wanted to make sure it wasn't installed.
[04:40] <prelude2004c> look vdpau i think requires GLX
[04:40] <prelude2004c> and GLX requires X
[04:40] <prelude2004c> i have X running but GLX wont load
[04:40] <drown> prelude2004c, can you give us the specific errors from ffmpeg?
[04:40] <prelude2004c> so if GLX wont load.. vdpau wont load
[04:41] <prelude2004c> i haven't gotten that far in the code but.. i remember that if " vdpauinfo " doesn't give you hardware details it does not work
[04:41] <prelude2004c> vdpauinfo has to kick back my K4200 cards
[04:41] <prelude2004c> not give an error
[04:41] <FLeiXiuS> vpdau does not require X
[04:41] <prelude2004c> hum... what does it require ?
[04:42] <prelude2004c> i am going to test it right now on esec
[04:42] <FLeiXiuS> It requires X development files upon compile/install. libxcb-glx0-dev I believe it is.
[04:42] <drown> FLeiXiuS, , does Nvidia's driver integrate on top of X
[04:43] <drown> FLeiXiuS, and communicate through it?
[04:43] <FLeiXiuS> The module operates independently.  X is only there to facilitate output
[04:43] <drown> FLeiXiuS, exactly, it's the i/o
[04:44] <prelude2004c> alright for those of you who are skeptical :)
[04:44] <FLeiXiuS> X doesnt care about the input.
[04:44] <prelude2004c> Error while decoding stream #0:4: Invalid data found when processing input
[04:44] <prelude2004c> Cannot open the X11 display :0.
[04:44] <prelude2004c> VDPAU init failed for stream #0:4.
[04:44] <FLeiXiuS> prelude2004c, Show me the command and the entire output.
[04:44] <prelude2004c> ${ffmpeg} -v 40 -vsync 0 -hwaccel vdpau -i "$stream" $mapping -f mpegts -
[04:45] <prelude2004c> the issue is that vdpau can't talk to display :0
[04:45] <FLeiXiuS> Preferably without the vars ;-)
[04:45] <raviteja> RaviTeja
[04:45] <drown> prelude2004c, because it isn't configured for headless.
[04:46] <prelude2004c> Xlib:  extension "NV-GLX" missing on display ":0"   VDPAU device creation on X11 display :0 failed.  VDPAU init failed for stream #0:3.
[04:46] <prelude2004c> whats not configured for headless ?
[04:46] <prelude2004c> how would i do that ?
[04:47] <drown> What about vaapi?
[04:47] <FLeiXiuS> Doh!
[04:47] <FLeiXiuS> vpdau depends on X.
[04:47] <FLeiXiuS> Its written for X11.
[04:48] <drown> FLeiXiuS,  what about vaapi is it also X dependent?
[04:48] <somsip> !info xvfb
[04:48] <drown> not a bad idea.
[04:48] <somsip> drown: not following the thread so may be off kilter, but there you go
[04:49] <drown> somsip, no that's a idea for a workaround.
[04:49] <drown> somsip, I've never used it though.
[04:49] <drown> somsip, and we're trying to help prelude2004c
[04:49] <somsip> drown: used it for running FF on a headless CI server, and was simple and painless
[04:50] <drown> prelude2004c, he's got your solution.
[04:50] <prelude2004c> maybe..
[04:50] <prelude2004c> now i have to learn how to use it :)
[04:50] <prelude2004c> but sure.. whatever works
[04:50] <drown> prelude2004c, well he just uncluttered the whole problem, we thought you hit a dead end and he just gave you a bridge.
[04:51] <prelude2004c> i am def. looking into it :)
[04:51] <FLeiXiuS> Well there you have it.  A full course on vpdau.
[04:52] <FLeiXiuS> Headless X is the only way to go with vpdau.
[04:53] <prelude2004c> uhh hum... ok.. now having to learn how to make it work :)
[04:54] <prelude2004c> still complaining about the same thing
[04:54] <drown> hmm.
[04:55] <prelude2004c> so i ran  Xvfb :0 -screen 0 800x600x16
[04:55] <prelude2004c> and it says initializing.. etc etc
[04:55] <drown> prelude2004c, I'm sorry man, I think you can do it with that component, but I have to sleep now. I'd look at the documentation for xvfb
[04:56] <drown> xvfb probably stands for x server virtual frame buffer so I'd try looking for that.
[04:57] <drown> prelude2004c,  try "man xvfb"
[04:57] <drown> prelude2004c, hope you get it sorted man. night.
[04:57] <prelude2004c> looking thanx
[05:00] <drown> prelude2004c, Oh another thing, You might want to look at VLC's server documentation, chances are VLC might have an alternative.
[05:00] <drown> prelude2004c, VLC has so many tools for streaming and directing video you wouldn't believe.
[05:01] <drown> prelude2004c, lots of headless functions.
[05:03] <drown> prelude2004c, VLC has  integration with VDPAU
[05:10] <prelude2004c> uhh hum.. anyways same damn thing.. even a fake X doesn't help as vdpau needs GLX
[05:15] <marinelaqc> hola
[05:25] <zhengxiangshuai> gg
[05:42] <prelude2004c> still no luck.. $%$% HELL
[05:49] <hateball> prelude2004c: what seems to be the matter?
[05:53] <bazwalt> Hi, anyone familiar with i3 and feh on ubuntu?
[05:55] <akis> hi all. Ever since i fresh installed 16.04 I've never been notified of updates by Software Updater. Instead i should install updates manually. My settings are: Automatically check for updates: Daily-When there are security updates: Display immediately-When there are other updates: Display immediately. Under 14.04 no issue appeared. Any idea or help?
[05:57] <Ben64> akis: run "sudo apt-get update" and "sudo apt-get dist-upgrade" to check if theres any problems
[05:59] <akis> Ben64: i run both commands and i install manually any update available. but no previous notification was shown for those available updates. that's the issue.
[06:00] <yrittaja> help, I just downloaded a language pack for open office to /home/yrittaja/Downloads/Apache_OpenOffice_4.1.2_Linux_x86-64_install-deb_es.tar.gz but i dont know how to install it, please tell me what i have to copy and paste onto the terminal thanks
[06:02] <bazwalt> whenever i try to add the feh command to either my i3 wdm config or to xinit it never works
[06:16] <Hoffman> Heya
[06:16] <Hoffman> is there any project in the works to get WiDi working on Ubuntu for laptops (rather than phones)
[06:18] <auronandace> bazwalt: i put it in my .profile
[06:18] <hateball> Hoffman: https://github.com/albfan/miraclecast
[06:18] <reisio> http://askubuntu.com/questions/341907/using-intel-wireless-display-widi-in-ubuntu
[06:19] <auronandace> yrittaja: any reason you are not using libreoffice?
[06:20] <home-pc> hey
[06:20] <Hoffman> hateball: thanks!
[06:20] <Researcher-> :)
[06:20] <Hoffman> didnt realize miracast = widi
[06:22] <home-pc> can you help me to set a conky on my xubuntu?
[06:23] <danialbehzadi> Hi. I installed android-sdk from repositories. and Android studio wants to install sdk again. Is there a way for android studio to use my system's sdk?
[06:41] <onano> hey guys anyone knows what kvm-ok command checks (i mean what specifically it looks for?) in ubuntu
[06:42] <reisio> http://manpages.ubuntu.com/manpages/precise/man1/kvm-ok.1.html
[06:42] <reisio> so it checks the processors, the bios overrides for the processor, and the kernel for required elements
[06:46] <onano> reisio, thanks!
[06:57] <Emn> hi
[06:57] <reisio> 'lo
[06:57] <ron__> hello
[06:57] <Emn> i m new on ubuntu
[06:57] <Emn> i installed ubunutu mate
[06:58] <Emn> its aswome
[06:58] <HetroErectus> theres #ubuntu-mate ... i have it too
[06:58] <Emn> how to upgrade hex chat ?
[06:59] <Backwards> Has anyone here used xmail?
[06:59] <Emn> hex chat upgrade command line ?
[06:59] <Ben64> Emn: sudo apt-get install hexchat
[06:59] <HetroErectus> sudo apt-get update && sudo apt-get upgrade
[06:59] <reisio> Emn: 2.10.2 is the latest that's easily available for the moment
[06:59] <reisio> some reason you need a newer version?
[07:00] <reisio> Backwards: probably someone has
[07:00] <Emn> hex chat need upgrade his infarence
[07:00] <Backwards> I was told that it was OK. I also was told that I should not run a private mail server from my home. Is that true?
[07:00] <reisio> Emn: mm, k
[07:01] <reisio> Emn: https://launchpad.net/~gwendal-lebihan-dev/+archive/ubuntu/hexchat-stable
[07:01] <reisio> Backwards: most ISPs don't technically allow servers from home (for a reasonable price)
[07:01] <reisio> email is pretty antiquated anyway
[07:02] <reisio> there are more secure, more real time, more asynchronous, more reliable alternatives these days
[07:02] <Backwards> Reisio I worked around that. But, not sure why not running a mail server on my private server.
[07:02] <Ben64> reisio: there is no good replacement to email
[07:02] <reisio> Ben64: only amazingly good ones? :p
[07:02] <Ben64> any examples?
[07:02] <HetroErectus> sudo add-apt-repository ppa:gwendal-lebihan-dev/hexchat-stable && sudo apt-get update && sudo apt-get upgrade
[07:03] <reisio> Backwards: if your ISP allows it, there's no particular harm
[07:03] <Backwards> I run a Debian ircd server and that works. I have had no complaints.
[07:03] <reisio> Ben64: xmpp
[07:03] <Ben64> meh
[07:04] <reisio> does all the things email can do, and more, but better, with less
[07:05] <Backwards> Ben64: xmpp    I will google that.
[07:05] <reisio> one could argue it is "email" in that regard, just a far superior implementation (due no doubt to not having been created 78,000 years ago)
[07:05] <Ben64> call me when it's actually used
[07:05] <reisio> xmpp?
[07:06] <reisio> big crap organizations like facebook have been using it for a while
[07:06] <Backwards> Is there an Ubuntu program that sends mail to localhost or 0,0.0.0   ?
[07:06] <reisio> other people before then
[07:06] <Emn> hex chat upgrade command line plz
[07:06] <Ben64> yeah, i've never seen it on a business card, or website or anything
[07:06] <reisio> Emn: read up to HetroErectus' msg
[07:06] <reisio> Ben64: you've never heard of a replacement for email, though, either
[07:07] <reisio> that's about all email has going for it
[07:07] <reisio> normos know what it is, kinda
[07:07] <Ben64> yeah, and that's what matters
[07:08] <reisio> not really
[07:08] <reisio> I think facebook calls xmpp "chat"
[07:08] <reisio> normos don't get caught up in the details, they just mash their buttons for whatever you give them
[07:08] <coredump> So, I am trying to use i3 w/ gnome, and while I get everything kinda working I can't make stuff like brightness/sound work. IF I use a panel to show the applet icons it works, but when I remove the panels everything stops working. Is there a way to manually run those applets on the tray? Also if anyone has a git to a working gnome + i3 config it would be
[07:08] <coredump> great.
[07:09] <Backwards> Reisio my ISP has never complained about running my website from home.
[07:09] <ducasse> Emn: if you have hexchat installed and your system is up to date, then you have the latest available version.
[07:09] <reisio> Backwards: that's nice
[07:09] <Ben64> Backwards: check their TOS and/or AUP
[07:09] <Backwards> I never had a complaint.
[07:09] <ducasse> Backwards: you might have trouble running a mail server at home because those ip ranges are often blacklisted.
[07:09] <reisio> coredump: define 'work'
[07:11] <coredump> reisio: when there's a gnome panel still around, pressing buttons shows the OSDs for brightness/sound/key backlight and those things change as expected. W/ i3 and gnome-settings-daemon running but no panels or similar, they don't work.
[07:12] <Backwards> Ducasse, the Comcast port was 22 for smtp but it is now 587 I had to program my popcorn smtp client for that.
[07:12] <Ben64> smtp is 25
[07:13] <Backwards> Most people don't know that port 25 is now 587.
[07:13] <reisio> coredump: mmm, if those are shortcuts managed by the window manager, you might have to remake them with i3/xbindkeys/etc.
[07:13] <reisio> Backwards: most people know that comcast (and most other ISPs) hate all their users, though :p
[07:13] <Backwards> lol
[07:13] <briesje> test
[07:14] <Ben64> and it's still likely that your ip is blocked by mail servers
[07:14] <briesje> hello?
[07:14] <reisio> briesje: pass
[07:14] <briesje> ok
[07:14] <briesje> how do I find channels?
[07:15] <Backwards> I don't use and I discourage anyone from using gmail or Yahoo mail.
[07:15] <reisio> briesje: on freenode, this network, you can use /msg alis list *foo*bar*
[07:15] <reisio> gmail used to be "fine"; lately it's pretty annoying
[07:15] <Backwards> It's crapppppp
[07:15] <Ben64> gmail still is fine, you shouldn't expect anything emailed to be private anyway
[07:15] <Backwards> All of your emails are sorted and logged.
[07:16] <Backwards> You cannot delete fully anything you delete on their servers.
[07:16] <reisio> Ben64: yeah, they've had a couple problems irrespective of things actually sent, though
[07:16] <reisio> like, buzz, was it?
[07:16] <reisio> where abusive ex husbands on your contact list could see all your friends
[07:17] <reisio> and it used to be (maybe still is?) you could see any address' person's real name, as listed
[07:17] <reisio> little things, though, really
[07:17] <reisio> what bothers me is how neglected the "basic" html version is
[07:17] <reisio> and how poorly made the fancy version is
[07:17] <Backwards> I cannot stand sending an email to someone who puts me on an everybody list all at once. <-----<    Doesn't work.
[07:17] <reisio> yeah that's just email being as awful as email will always be
[07:19] <Backwards> I got email from people all over the country and I never met them telling me hello. I don't need that. Same thing with the IP they send weekly their garbage to everyone spamming.
[07:20] <Backwards> Setting up your own email server is the answer.
[07:20] <reisio> ninite
[07:20] <Ben64> yeah, but do it on an actual server
[07:20] <Backwards> I have one.
[07:20] <Ben64> and it won't stop spam still
[07:21] <Ben64> home connection is not a real server
[07:21] <Backwards> Generated idiot spamming.
[07:21] <Backwards> My email will be port forwarded to my internet server.
[07:21] <ikonia> sounds like a very bad design and idea
[07:21] <Ben64> indeed
[07:21] <Backwards> Why?
[07:21] <ikonia> sounds like you should run a proper mail service if you want one
[07:22] <Backwards> No. It is just private stuff. Nothing big.
[07:22] <ikonia> Backwards: so ?
[07:22] <ikonia> you still need to run a proper mail service.
[07:23] <ikonia> or if it's nothing big, use a mail provider, such as your isp
[07:23] <Backwards> I know. You are taking all of the fun out of the idea here.
[07:23] <ikonia> Backwards: no, we are removing the bad concept from the idea
[07:23] <davido> !ot
[07:23] <ikonia> davido: ?
[07:23] <Backwards> I love that expression Ikonia.  hehe
[07:24] <Ben64> why even set up an email service at all if it's going to be barely functional if that
[07:24] <ikonia> it seems like the worst design "sort of" mail realy with home hacks
[07:24] <ikonia> when you can just run a mail relay in minutes
[07:24] <Backwards> It is the fun of installing it on Ubuntu server.
[07:24] <ducasse> Backwards: home isp ranges are blacklisted (because spam). you can't run a mail server on them.
[07:25] <ikonia> running a mail service is nothing to do with "the fun of installing ubuntu server"
[07:25] <ikonia> ducasse: it's ok, he's going to port forward to a server on the internet ?????
[07:25] <ducasse> ikonia: right. :)
[07:26] <Backwards> Ok so someone here has personal experience in these matters. OK. Thanks for the input.
[07:26] <ikonia> Backwards: I have experience in running mail servers
[07:26] <ducasse> Backwards: get a cheap vps, run your mail server there.
[07:26] <kenrin> +1 vps
[07:26] <ikonia> ducasse: he already has a machine on the public internet, the one he's going to port forward to....
[07:27] <akis>  hi all. Ever since i fresh installed 16.04 I've never been notified of updates by Software Updater. Instead i should install updates manually. My settings are: Automatically check for updates: Daily-When there are security updates: Display immediately-When there are other updates: Display immediately. Under 14.04 no issue appeared. Any idea or help?
[07:28] <ikonia> akis: are there updates pending ?
[07:28] <Backwards> Ikonia, thanks for the advice. I will take it under advisement. Many thanks.
[07:28] <six86> Hello. Is there a way to create a working USB installation medium for non UEFI systems? Even for UEFI systems it's a pain in the ass. The only working way is manually formatting and copyying over, but the the stick only works with uefi systems. I'm not able to create a stick for non UEFI BIOS systems...
[07:29] <akis> ikonia: a lot. i proceeded on them manually using sudo apt-get update and sudo apt-get dist-upgrade
[07:29] <Ben64> six86: dd the iso to the flash drive, or use something like unetbootin, it's easy
[07:29] <jnhghy> Hi, I have ubuntu 16.04 and gnome, I'm trying to show thunderbaird and firefox on my desktop is there an easy way to do this?
[07:29] <ikonia> akis: sounds like the notification applet isn't working
[07:30] <ikonia> jnhghy: show ?
[07:30] <six86> Ben64: Tried those ways resulting in "No boot medium found" or similar messages. If it's working, then only in the efi system
[07:30] <Backwards> Kenrin thanks for your help. :)
[07:30] <Ben64> six86: you tried dd?
[07:30] <six86> Ben64: Yes.
[07:31] <Ben64> six86: then you're either doing it wrong, using a bad iso, or not ubuntu
[07:31] <Ben64> or the computer can't boot from usb, i guess
[07:32] <Backwards> Ben64 perhaps the boot order in his BIOS is not USB first.
[07:32] <akis> ikonia: that's right. something like this. although there are many pending updates more than 24 hours, no notification pops up. i read similar complains here: http://ubuntuforums.org/showthread.php?t=2323320 and here: https://bugs.launchpad.net/ubuntu/+source/update-manager/+bug/1586625
[07:33] <six86> Ben64: It can. I used a preseeded 12.04 install stick for 2 years. Now after the transition to 16.04 everything gets messed up. usb-disk-creator, mkusb and unetbooting produce sticks that are not bootable and have no real partition (same as dd). Creating it manually (real partion sdb1 and then copyying the iso content wresults in a workign stick for efi systems but not for BIOS.
[07:33] <Ben64> six86: i guarantee you it works
[07:34] <six86> Boot order is not a problem, I am booting from the stick.
[07:34] <Ben64> well, dd at least. i've heard that certain usb creators don't work anymore
[07:34] <six86> Ben64: I can gurantee I have a problem and it is not the first stick were creating here.
[07:34] <Ben64> check the md5sum, use dd, try again
[07:35] <six86> Ben64: What state should the stick be in before dd? Shouldn't matter?
[07:35] <Ben64> doesn't matter
[07:37] <six86> Ben64: The sha checksum of the original image is correct, the iso I create while preseeding also is valid and installable, because it works damn fine in virtual environments.
[07:38] <Ben64> ah, so you change the iso
[07:38] <six86> Ben64: like I said before
[07:45] <TvL2386> hi guys... I'm playing with cloud storage and davfs... I notice that davfs does not honor "cache_size 50" at all in ~/.davfs2/davfs2.conf. I have about 50 files of 2GB in my cache_dir... uploading is complete... unmounting & mounting does not remove the cache either.... I don't get it...
[07:45] <TvL2386> it does honor the cache_dir setting, so I know it's using this file
[07:55] <BlackDex> I have two internet connections with both different external IP's. One connection is on the ethernet, and the other on wlan. How can i "team"/"bond" these connection with ubuntu (NetworkManager)?
[07:56] <lyze> BlackDex, http://ask.xmodulo.com/configure-linux-bridge-network-manager-ubuntu.html
[07:58] <BlackDex> lyze: If i try that, i'm not able to select my wireless connection
[08:00] <DevAntoine> hi
[08:01] <Eagleman7> On Ubuntu 14.04 I am using inotifywait to log changes on the filesystem, however I want to ignore some files. When I look at the manpage I see that I have to use --fromfile and then @ to supress a file, however when using @/path/to/file/test.file and restarting inotifywait, it is still logging that specific file, any idea what I am doing wrong?
[08:05] <bo> hh
[08:05] <bo> hhh
[08:05] <bo> hhhhh
[08:05] <bo> hhhhhhhhhhhhhhhhhhhhhhhhhhh
[08:05] <bo> hhhhhhhhhhhhhhhhhhhhhhhhhhhhhhhhhhhhhhhhhhhhhhhh
[08:05] <brainwash> Eagleman7: no typos? the file only contains the line "@/path/to/file/test.file"?
[08:06] <Eagleman7> brainwash: It was an example, but yeh, no typo's
[08:20] <BaltecoTroll> dudes, any help with hp pavilion notebook hybrid graphic (radeon)? http://pastebin.com/fwGfSaS5
[08:23] <hateball> BaltecoTroll: fglrx is deprecated
[08:24] <hateball> BaltecoTroll: https://wiki.ubuntu.com/XenialXerus/ReleaseNotes#fglrx
[08:25] <hateball> BaltecoTroll: and if you want to test a newer module you need a newer kernel. You can try a mainline kernel at your own peril
[08:25] <hateball> !mainline | BaltecoTroll
[08:31] <BaltecoTroll> hateball hm. oook. which one should i use for my hw?
[08:37] <hateball> BaltecoTroll: it should be decided for you automatically. do you not get any display at all?
[08:38] <hateball> BaltecoTroll: what does "lspci -k" say for the AMD carD?
[08:38] <six86> Ben64: I just tried with the plain ubuntu image and dd. Works like a charm... But why doesn't it work with the preseeded one?
[08:39] <ViciousLoo> hey, how do i add a normal website to my ubuntu server, i already have wordpress installed but i want another website with a different domain name
[08:39] <ViciousLoo> hey almark
[08:40] <ViciousLoo> hey, how do i add a normal website to my ubuntu server, i already have wordpress installed but i want another website with a different domain name
[08:40] <Ben64> wait longer before repeating
[08:40] <ViciousLoo> ben64, sorry new ppl joined
[08:40] <EriC^^> ViciousLoo: apache?
[08:40] <ViciousLoo> umm.. LAMP
[08:40] <Ben64> people join and leave all the time, there are 1888 people here
[08:41] <almark> hi ViciousLoo
[08:41] <ViciousLoo> i used the one click digital ocean wordpress thing
[08:41] <ViciousLoo> so i think thats LAMP
[08:41] <EriC^^> ViciousLoo: go to /etc/apache2/sites-available
[08:41] <EriC^^> and make a copy of the default.conf
[08:42] <EriC^^> and put the document root and server name etc
[08:42] <EriC^^> then sudo a2ensite <site name>
[08:42] <ViciousLoo> there are 2 files in sites-available, 000-default.conf and default-ssl.conf
[08:43] <damien__> Does anyone have a clue, how to install a talking clock on linux?
[08:43] <EriC^^> use 000-default.conf if it's standard not https
[08:43] <ViciousLoo> so cp 000-default.conf ?
[08:43] <EriC^^> ViciousLoo: cp 000-default.conf 000-newsite.conf
[08:44] <ViciousLoo> then?
[08:44] <ViciousLoo> how do i edit in putty?
[08:44] <EriC^^> sudo nano 000-newsite.conf
[08:44] <ViciousLoo> ah
[08:44] <ViciousLoo> nanon
[08:44] <ViciousLoo> nano*
[08:45] <Ben64> damien__: sudo apt-get install espeak && date | espeak
[08:45] <damien__> are you sure that will work ben
[08:45] <Ben64> depends on your definition of work. it definitely says the time, but it sounds.... not awesome
[08:46] <damien__> you mean it don't sound too good
[08:47] <EriC^^> it's not too bad with date +%r | espeak
[08:47] <EriC^^> damien__: ^
[08:47] <damien__> so does this clock speak the time eric
[08:48] <EriC^^> damien__: no, that's just piping the output of date to espeak
[08:48] <EriC^^> if you want a talking clock you could use xclock with a timer that does what ben suggested
[08:48] <ViciousLoo> EriC^^:  what do i put for serverAdmin ?
[08:48] <damien__> oh ok i think i'm with you there thanks for explaining that
[08:48] <EriC^^> ViciousLoo: you're email i think
[08:49] <BaltecoTroll> hateball 01:00.0 Display controller: Advanced Micro Devices, Inc. [AMD/ATI] Sun XT [Radeon HD 8670A/8670M/8690M / R5 M330] Subsystem: Hewlett-Packard Company Device 21af
[08:49] <ViciousLoo> how do i save the file?#
[08:49] <EriC^^> ViciousLoo: ctrl+o
[08:50] <damien__> thanks eric
[08:50] <EriC^^> ViciousLoo: have you secured your server yet and stuff?
[08:50] <BaltecoTroll> hateball it's hybrid with intel _and_ radeon and i'm trying to turn ati on
[08:50] <EriC^^> damien__: no problem :)
[08:51] <ViciousLoo> for a2ensite, does the sitename need to be the same as how i put it in the directory
[08:51] <damien__> Why is it that, people from ubuntu seem much nicer, than other chat rooms?
[08:51] <ViciousLoo> or can it be whatever
[08:52] <ViciousLoo> EriC^^: what do i put after a2ensite?
[08:52] <six86> So where can the problem be when my preseeded stick boots fine in a VM environment, but not when dd'ed to a usb stick?
[08:53] <mgor> ViciousLoo, if you don't enter any parameter, it will list the available sites
[08:53] <mgor> ViciousLoo, http://manpages.ubuntu.com/manpages/trusty/man8/a2dissite.8.html
[08:55] <EriC^^> ViciousLoo: try the server name you put for it
[08:55] <ViciousLoo> done
[08:55] <ViciousLoo> EriC^^: how do i know point a domain name to this instead of the main site?
[08:55] <EriC^^> ok, sudo service apache2 restart
[08:56] <ViciousLoo> done
[08:56] <EriC^^> ViciousLoo: you just point the domain name to the server's ip and apache will do the rest
[08:56] <Ben64> sometimes
[08:56] <Ben64> depends how the initial site was set up
[08:56] <ViciousLoo> but it doesnt know which part of the site to point to if i just put IP
[08:57] <EriC^^> ViciousLoo: apache will see the domain.com and direct it to the document root you set for it
[08:57] <Ben64> it should if the virtualhosts are set properly
[08:58] <ViciousLoo> i didnt put the domain name anywhere when setting up
[08:58] <EriC^^> in the .conf you should put it
[08:59] <ViciousLoo> EriC^^: https://gyazo.com/de03b9551408fc63c49e93bd1fab7340
[08:59] <EriC^^> uncomment ServerName and put it there
[08:59] <ViciousLoo> where abouts?
[08:59] <ViciousLoo> ah
[08:59] <ViciousLoo> i need a new line
[08:59] <ViciousLoo> do i need to put http:// at the start
[08:59] <Ben64> no
[08:59] <EriC^^> no
[08:59] <ViciousLoo> so just sitename.com ?
[09:00] <Ben64> it worries me that you're running sites without knowing this
[09:00] <EriC^^> same here
[09:00] <ViciousLoo> :D
[09:00] <EriC^^> that's why i asked if you had secured stuff yet
[09:00] <ViciousLoo> i started using linux 2 days ago
[09:00] <Ben64> especially with wordpress
[09:00] <Ben64> asking to get hacked
[09:01] <ViciousLoo> i havent got any sensitive info, just messing around
[09:01] <Ben64> thats not a good excuse
[09:01] <Ben64> you can be held responsible for whatever happens on your vps
[09:03] <ViciousLoo> Ben64: i havent done anything that isnt directly following a tutorial
[09:03] <Ben64> thats not a positive
[09:03] <ViciousLoo> :/
[09:04] <EriC^^> ViciousLoo: did you do the tutorial on ssh and keys and stuff like that?
[09:04] <EriC^^> also keep the server updated always
[09:06] <yossarianuk> hi - How can I use the nvidia driver to force DPI setting when using nvidia-prime ?
[09:09] <yossarianuk>  I would normally edit /etc/X11/xorg and add ' Option     "DPI" "102 x 102"    '  but if I ever change GPU the xorg.conf gets overwriten
[09:09] <yossarianuk> any ideas ?
[09:10] <lioser> EriC^^: hey
[09:10] <EriC^^> hey lioser
[09:11] <lioser> hey sorry I was just trying to see if I had a voice haha
[09:13] <darkeye> Anyone tried to develop using Ubuntu SD under Kubuntu ?
[09:13] <lioser> what is up with #freenode im tyring to reset things and noone answers
[09:13] <ViciousLoo> well, i screwed up the server :/
[09:14] <ViciousLoo> atleast znc still works!
[09:15] <EriC^^> lioser: :D
[09:15] <lioser> EriC^^: I hate being on the windows side of my box .....
[09:16] <ViciousLoo> EriC^^: it now says 404 not found for my main site :/
[09:16] <EriC^^> ViciousLoo: maybe the document root is wrong?
[09:16] <yossarianuk> anyone know how to force DPI settings when using nvidia-prime ?  Any xorg changes I do get overwriten when I change GPU ?
[09:17] <Ben64> ViciousLoo: paste.ubuntu.org all the files in /etc/apache2/sites-enabled/
[09:20] <xccmixer> hello
[09:20] <ViciousLoo> http://paste.ubuntu.com/16861195/
[09:21] <Ben64> wow, that's all kinds of wrong
[09:21] <ViciousLoo> lol
[09:21] <ViciousLoo> why
[09:22] <EriC^^> ViciousLoo: you're missing the "/" before var/www/.. next to Document root
[09:24] <Ben64> both should have a valid servername, the virtualhost section should be the ip address
[09:24] <lioser> ahh you have to wait for a voice in that channel lol
[09:24] <EriC^^> lioser: yeah, it's stupid
[09:24] <TheSilentLink> hello anyone know why when I boot into ubuntu I don't get the loading screen? I just shows a black screen until the login screen appears
[09:25] <EriC^^> TheSilentLink: type cat /proc/cmdline
[09:25] <mcphail> TheSilentLink: are you using proprietary drivers?
[09:25] <TheSilentLink> mcphail: no
[09:25] <lioser> well I havent been there in awhile so I was wondering haha   nothing set up on this side of my system.... maybe should do that lol
[09:25] <TheSilentLink> EriC^^: BOOT_IMAGE=/boot/vmlinuz-4.4.0-22-generic root=UUID=dcede63d-b81f-4c60-8e40-6f75b0a8b367 ro quiet splash vt.handoff=7
[09:28] <hateball> TheSilentLink: and you're positive you're not using the nvidia blob for instance?
[09:29] <TheSilentLink> hateball: Nvidia blob? I have an amd graphics card
[09:29] <six86> So can anyone help me? Just creating a usb stick with my preseeded iso worked fine for 12.04, for 16.04 I am not able to create a bootable stick with my preseeded iso...
[09:29] <TheSilentLink> well integrated..
[09:31] <hateball> TheSilentLink: hmm, then you should have KMS support I guess. cant say I know much about amd tho
[09:31] <mcphail> TheSilentLink: the plymouth splash screen has always been a bit of a mystery to me. An experiment would be to try forcing a kms resolution from the boot command line
[09:32] <mcphail> TheSilentLink: what is the native resolution of your monitor?
[09:32] <ViciousLoo> ben64 which bit needs to be the ip?
[09:32] <Ben64> virtualhost
[09:33] <ViciousLoo> the tag at start and end?
[09:33] <TheSilentLink> mcphail: 1366x768
[09:33] <Ben64> ViciousLoo: maybe you should read and learn more before doing this
[09:34] <ViciousLoo> i should, but do i change the tag at the start and the end that say virtual host?
[09:34] <mcphail> TheSilentLink: aah. There isn't a pre-built shortcut to force that one ;)
[09:35] <TheSilentLink> mcphail: can't I just force any resolution that is below 133x768
[09:36] <yossarianuk> i.e how can I get nvidia-prime to also add the DPI settings to the conf when I uchange GPU with nvidia-prime
[09:37] <mcphail> TheSilentLink: you could try, but I don't know if it will work. Try adding drm_kms_helper.edid_firmware=edid/1024x768.bin to your command line, between "quiet" and "splash"
[09:38] <TheSilentLink> mcphail: in what file?
[09:38] <ViciousLoo> EriC^^:  is anything else wrong with what i pasted?
[09:39] <effectnet> how come when i installed samba, the printer was automatically available?
[09:40] <mcphail> TheSilentLink: when GRUB loads at boot, press "e" to edit the boot commands
[09:41] <mcphail> TheSilentLink: but my hack probably won't work anyway ;)
[09:42] <mcphail> TheSilentLink: see https://wiki.ubuntu.com/Plymouth for debugging information on plymouth
[09:43] <TheSilentLink> mcphail: o ok thanks so there is no fix?
[09:44] <ViciousLoo> i got it all working Ben64
[09:45] <mcphail> TheSilentLink: can't say for sure, but that page will show you how to enable debugging and logging, and how to test plymouth on an already-booted system. It might give you some clues
[09:45] <TheSilentLink> o ok btw is it normal I don't have /lib/plymouth/themes/default.plymouth?
[09:45] <mcphail> TheSilentLink: or, you could just ignore the missing splash screen entirely
[09:46] <mcphail> TheSilentLink: I don't know. I'm not on an Ubuntu machine to check right now
[09:46] <TheSilentLink> mcphail: o ok
[09:46] <mcphail> TheSilentLink: did you install Ubuntu in the normal way, or is this a funny setup?
[09:46] <TheSilentLink> mcphail: by the installer but i am dualbooting
[09:47] <mcphail> TheSilentLink: from the wiki page, /lib/plymouth/themes/default.plymouth isn't used in ubuntu
[09:48] <mcphail> TheSilentLink: actually, ignore me. Reading fail on my part
[09:56] <halvors> Hi. How can i disable dhclient for some given interfaces?
[10:00] <crawln> halvors, you set that interface to static
[10:07] <vekexasia> Hello All, i've a file under /etc/init but when i do service mailcatcher status i get  "mailcatcher.service\n Loaded: not-found (Reason: No such file or directory)...."
[10:08] <TheSilentLink> mcphail: I changed the theme and it seems like it works
[10:08] <TheSilentLink> mcphail: but it only appears for like half a second before the login screen appears!
[10:08] <crawln> vekexasia, what version
[10:08] <vekexasia> crawln 16.04
[10:09] <mcphail> TheSilentLink: ha!
[10:09] <crawln> looks like to me it's looking for a systemd file not init
[10:09] <mcphail> TheSilentLink: at least it works ;)
[10:09] <TheSilentLink> mcphail:  I don't know why lol cause I pc is a toaster!
[10:09] <vekexasia> crawln how can i see if that's true ?
[10:09] <TheSilentLink> mcphail: trye
[10:09] <yossarianuk> if anyone knows how to help me with my DPI issue with nvidia-prime I have posted in the forum... -> http://ubuntuforums.org/showthread.php?t=2326377&p=13497362#post13497362
[10:09] <TheSilentLink> true*
[10:09] <somsip> vekexasia: like, this mailcatcher? If so, it doesnt run as a service https://mailcatcher.me/
[10:09] <vekexasia> yes
[10:10] <somsip> vekexasia: it still doesnt run as a service
[10:10] <mcphail> TheSilentLink: because I run the proprietary drivers, I haven't seen the splash screen for years. Best to just ignore it, imho
[10:10] <TheSilentLink> mcphail: true but ubuntu 16.04 doesn't have the amd drivers
[10:11] <vekexasia> I found an howto.here https://prabuddha.me/setup-mailcatcher/
[10:11] <yossarianuk> mcphail: I see it with nvidia (364) drivers...
[10:11] <somsip> vekexasia: not supported, so contact the author of that website
[10:12] <vekexasia> somsip, what's not supported exactly?
[10:14] <somsip> vekexasia: official packages are supported here. This one, though useful, is not official. We have no way to know if those instructions really do work, and your experience suggests they dont, unless you havent followed them right
[10:15] <vekexasia> somsip, ok. understand but more generally why an /etc/init/ is no longer seen by "service" command ?
[10:15] <somsip> vekexasia: hmmm. upstart or systemd. Something to investigate more maybe...
[10:16] <vekexasia> I just get an "not found" error when trying to issue a service mailcatcher status
[10:18] <mcphail> !systemd | vekexasia
[10:19] <ziggy_> set theme murf
[10:19] <Guest12397> Hey
[10:19] <Guest12397> How do I run hdparm on a mount?
[10:19] <Guest12397> Basically, I have virtualbox running with a shared folder mounted.
[10:20] <Guest12397> I'd like to know what the benchmark is for actually reading from it...
[10:20] <Guest12397> It's mounted to /media/sf_Foo
[10:20] <Bluesugar> Hello everyone
[10:24] <amber_> hello
[10:26] <NoCode> How can I enable transparency with gnome-shell in 16.04?
[10:28] <NoCode> I'm finding that each  window has four *white* corners. whenever opening up the Apps bar or the bar I use to log out wiht there's always a non-transparent border.
[10:29] <popey> NoCode: known bug which has recently been fixed I believe
[10:29] <popey> bug 1565267
[10:31] <ren0v0> Why do i constantly get the locale issue on new servers (14.04) ?  perl: warning: Please check that your locale settings:	LANGUAGE = (unset),
[10:32] <popey> ren0v0: how was the server deployed / installed?
[10:32] <ren0v0> LANGUAGE and LC_ALL are never set
[10:32] <popey> they are with a standard install
[10:32] <popey> not with some cloud images
[10:32] <popey> or vps providers
[10:32] <ren0v0> popey, this was was using LXC template, and yea i've had it with DO also
[10:32] <popey> yeah, that's why.
[10:32] <ren0v0> popey, what is the correct way to fix it, and is it possible to do it via script? because i havea  deployment script (bash)
[10:33] <NoCode> For a LTS release, Gnome-Shell is quite unpolished. O.o
[10:34] <sector_0> how well does the r9 290 work on ubuntu with the proprietary drivers
[10:34] <sector_0> there someone offering me that card for a reasonable price, but I've read about some issues that people had in the past
[10:34] <hateball> sector_0: fglrx is deprecated, there is only amdgpu
[10:34] <NoCode> I guess in the meantime, I'll go back to i3WM.
[10:35] <popey> NoCode: https://www.digitalocean.com/community/questions/language-problem-on-ubuntu-14-04
[10:35] <ren0v0> popey, there are various answers around, but it seems some work for some people and not for others  http://askubuntu.com/questions/536875/error-in-installing-mongo-in-virtual-machine
[10:35] <popey> ren0v0: not me asking
[10:35] <popey> ren0v0: duh, got confused, sory. https://www.digitalocean.com/community/questions/language-problem-on-ubuntu-14-04
[10:35] <ren0v0> ok i'll try this locale file
[10:35] <popey> sorry NoCode :)
[10:35] <sector_0> hateball, so the r9 290 has great support then?
[10:36] <sector_0> I wanna make sure that switching from the 7870HD to the r9 290 isn't going to introduce problems
[10:38] <hateball> sector_0: I do not know, I've been avoiding AMD for a decade+
[10:39] <hateball> sector_0: Since amdgpu is in the kernel it is likely you'll want to use a more recent kernel than 4.4 included in 16.04
[10:46] <sector_0> hateball, so nVidia has better support than AMD?
[10:47] <sector_0> I always thought AMD was better supported, since the company worked along with linux devs
[10:47] <sector_0> I even remember Linus Tarvolds once saying nVidia didn't cooperate well with the Linux dev team
[10:48] <hateball> sector_0: Well with nvidia you're relying on their binary blob, but it's well supported and the performance blows AMD out of the water
[10:48] <hateball> sector_0: But AMD has better open source drivers
[10:49] <hateball> And with some luck, maybe they'll get performance on par. But until then I will keep using nVidia anyhow
[10:49] <sector_0> hateball, well it seems my perception was wrong all this time
[10:50] <sector_0> just looked it up, and from a quick glance there's a lot of thread confirming your opinion
[10:52] <Jakey3> how can I connect to a homeserver without using DDns
[10:52] <Ben64> ip address
[10:53] <Jakey3> I have a vps
[10:53] <Ben64> then use that instead
[10:53] <Jakey3> home server has dynamic ip
[10:53] <Ben64> don't use a home server at all if you have a vps
[10:53] <Jakey3> I want to use my home server as vps is just a small DO droplet
[10:53] <Ben64> homes aren't for servers
[10:54] <Jakey3> I can create a vpn to my vps from my homeserver?
[10:54] <Jakey3> and then connect through the vps?
[10:54] <Ben64> sure, but why
[10:55] <Jakey3> I want to be able to connect to my homeserver all the time it has a dynanic ip and i dont dont want to use a ddns service
[10:55] <BluesKaj> Hey folks
[10:55] <Jakey3> I was looking for the standard way to do this
[10:55] <Ben64> Jakey3: no, use a real server
[10:56] <k1l_> Jakey3: then you will have to run an own ddns service at the vps.
[10:57] <Jakey3> i was thinking of writing a script to update the vps with my homeservers new ip each time each changed
[10:57] <Ben64> residential connections are: 1) residential, so running a server on it is likely against what they allow you to do 2) slow 3) bad
[10:57] <k1l_> Jakey3: you can use  bind9 for that. but that is not a beginners task which is done with installing a packge and doing one click.
[10:57] <Jakey3> im fine with learning new stuff
[10:58] <k1l_> then read yourself into bind9
[10:59] <k1l_> "learning new stuff" doesnt mean "#ubuntu just copies the commands for me"
[10:59] <Dark_Witcher> Hey, guys
[10:59] <Dark_Witcher> quick question
[10:59] <Jakey3> k1l_, haha
[10:59] <Dark_Witcher> how can I get thing to minimize to theire icon like in widonws 8/10
[10:59] <Dark_Witcher> open stuuf
[11:00] <Dark_Witcher> and to use them like that ( windows 8/10 taskbar style)
[11:00] <Jakey3> k1l_, i thought it was just about piping into bash from curl
[11:00] <Jakey3> :~)
[11:05] <XOF_> can anyone help me with some windows 10/ 16.04 dual boot questions?
[11:05] <Ben64> XOF_: unknown until you ask the question
[11:06] <XOF_> I installed ubuntu and i windows 10 wont show in the gnu grub and im not sure what to do
[11:07] <XOF_> i think its because i didnt disable hibernate on windows 10 but now stuck.
[11:07] <Ben64> XOF_: do this https://help.ubuntu.com/community/Boot-Info
[11:08] <YankDownUnder> XOF_, you can also look at: http://www.everydaylinuxuser.com/2015/11/how-to-install-ubuntu-linux-alongside.html
[11:09] <XOF_> the problem is it's already installed but i cant get back into windows
[11:09] <EriC^^> XOF_: are you in ubuntu now?
[11:09] <XOF_> yes
[11:10] <EriC^^> XOF_: type sudo parted -l | nc termbin.com 9999
[11:10] <XOF_> -l not found
[11:11] <EriC^^> you did a typo i'd guess
[11:11] <XOF_> i copied from your text
[11:12] <EriC^^> sudo parted -l | nc termbin.com 9999
[11:12] <XOF_> im not sure what to do now
[11:12] <XOF_> i didnt get an error
[11:12] <EriC^^> copy the link here
[11:12] <sebThreeM10white> hi
[11:12] <neredsenvy> I'm trying to create a  user using a script using the command createuser is there a way I can provide a password non interactivelly
[11:13] <neredsenvy> if I do
[11:13] <XOF_> http://termbin.com/o7ao
[11:13] <neredsenvy> createuser -W password username
[11:13] <neredsenvy> it wont work
[11:13] <EriC^^> XOF_: windows is on the 1tb disk?
[11:13] <XOF_> no its on my smaller ssd
[11:14] <EriC^^> XOF_: ok, try sudo mount /dev/sda1 /mnt
[11:14] <EriC^^> which windows is it?
[11:14] <XOF_> 10
[11:14] <XOF_> The disk contains an unclean file system (0, 0). Metadata kept in Windows cache, refused to mount. Failed to mount '/dev/sda1': Operation not permitted The NTFS partition is in an unsafe state. Please resume and shutdown Windows fully (no hibernation or fast restarting), or mount the volume read-only with the 'ro' mount option.
[11:14] <XOF_> thats what i got
[11:16] <XOF_> i know this stems from be not disabling hibernation
[11:16] <XOF_> me*
[11:16] <EriC^^> XOF_: try sudo mount -o ro /dev/sda1 /mnt
[11:17] <XOF_> ntfs-3g-mount: mount failed: Device or resource busy
[11:18] <EriC^^> XOF_: try mount | grep /dev/sda1
[11:19] <XOF_>  /dev/sda1 on /mnt type fuseblk (ro,relatime,user_id=0,group_id=0,allow_other,blksize=4096)
[11:19] <codfection> Guys how to transfer videos to iphone on linux(ubuntu)
[11:19] <EriC^^> XOF_: try sudo update-grub
[11:19] <EriC^^> codfection: itunes
[11:19] <codfection> dont have itunes in ubuntu
[11:19] <codfection> right?
[11:20] <XOF_> Generating grub configuration file ... Found linux image: /boot/vmlinuz-4.4.0-21-generic Found initrd image: /boot/initrd.img-4.4.0-21-generic Found memtest86+ image: /boot/memtest86+.elf Found memtest86+ image: /boot/memtest86+.bin Found Windows 10 (loader) on /dev/sda1 done
[11:20] <XOF_> do i reboot now and see?
[11:20] <hateball> !iphone | codfection
[11:20] <k1l_> codfection: apple doesnt make itunes for linux.
[11:20] <EriC^^> XOF_: yeah
[11:20] <codfection> k1l_, any way to transfer videos to iphone using ubuntu
[11:20] <codfection> I can connect wire
[11:20] <k1l_> codfection: and since they change the stuff everytime with the intention that 3rd party programs dont work, you will need to run itunes in wine or ask apple what to do
[11:21] <codfection> this is the first time I am hating my iphone
[11:21] <codfection> for not making itunes for linux
[11:21] <halvors> crawln: I've done that, giving me DHCP anyway.
[11:21] <sebThreeM10white> codfection yes no sucky itunes for linux, but theres probably a setting in the iphone and ubuntu for usingn the lightning cabble or something to transfer files not sure though
[11:21] <halvors> crawln: The interface is not configured with ifupdown.
[11:22] <XOF_> it worked Eric
[11:22] <codfection> sebThreeM10white, cant find.
[11:22] <XOF_> back on windows
[11:23] <Jakey3> EriC^^, why did updating grub solve the issue?
[11:23] <EriC^^> XOF_: cool
[11:23] <codfection> EriC^^, Any idea?
[11:24] <sebThreeM10white> sebsebseb
[11:25] <EriC^^> codfection: as k1l_ said, and itunes new versions stop working on wine
[11:25] <codfection> so how to transfer videos to iphone using laptop (ubuntu)?
[11:25] <EriC^^> Jakey3: it found it since it was mounted ro and then windows booted itself
[11:25] <codfection> I cant figure out this simple thing
[11:25] <codfection> I used to transfer using cable on windows
[11:25] <codfection> itunes
[11:25] <codfection> but now on linux I am confused
[11:26] <codfection> I tried using cable without itunes but doesn't seem to worek
[11:26] <codfection> work&
[11:26] <codfection> *
[11:26] <Jakey3> EriC^^, ok
[11:26] <i5pranay> hi everyone?
[11:26] <i5pranay> i need help in installing rvm on ubuntu
[11:26] <i5pranay> ??? can any one ?
[11:27] <mcphail> codfection: there isn't a good solution for apple devices with Ubuntu. Apple do not support linux, and take measures to break compatibility with home grown solutions
[11:27] <codfection> mcphail, so how can I transfer a simple video to iphone
[11:27] <i5pranay> ruby version manager it is. i am working on rails
[11:28] <k1l_> codfection: for android there are wifi samba server or such.
[11:28] <mcphail> codfection: in my experience, you don't. Simple as that. Apple don't want you to do it.
[11:28] <EriC^^> codfection: can't you get itunes running on some windows pc
[11:28] <codfection> mcphail, damn.. so its like waste of money on an iphone if I cant do simple things such as transferring video files
[11:29] <codfection> EriC^^, you think windows vm would work?
[11:29] <mcphail> codfection: Most linux devs have given up trying to support apple devices, as they are hostile to open solutions
[11:29] <Jakey3> Welcome to seamless design from apple
[11:29] <EriC^^> codfection: maybe
[11:29] <brunch875> Is anyone experienced with keyboard layouts? I want to map right control to fifth level and put all unicode smileys there
[11:38] <c2a2h> hey
[11:38] <lyze> hey
[11:39] <damien__> does anyone know, how to get a digital clock working in ubuntu?
[11:40] <c2a2h> idk
[11:44] <c2a2h> heh
[11:48] <dgadd523> Downloaded new windows manager to try it out.  Can anyone point me to a HOWTO to change back to Unity on 16.04?
[11:50] <damien__> can't you just log out and select the desktop enviroment you want from the login screen
[11:51] <dgadd523> damien__ : It doesn't give me an option, can you give startx an argument?
[11:52] <damien__> im not sure
[11:52] <damien__> google it
[11:52] <mcphail> dgadd523: click on the icon in the top right corner of the login box to change wm/desktop environment
[11:52] <damien__> thats what i was saying
[11:52] <mcphail> dgadd523: and don't use startx unless you really know what you are doing
[11:53] <damien__> yep
[11:53] <dgadd523> I think I
[11:54] <damien__> mcphail can you please tell me why the digital clock is not working
[11:56] <mcphail> damien__: not without details? What clock, what desktop environment, what ubuntu version, what "is not working"?
[11:56] <Alxpa> hey, is a 64 gb usb enough to run ubuntu off?
[11:56] <mcphail> Alxpa: yes
[11:56] <damien__> the digital clock for ubuntu
[11:57] <Alxpa> mcphail: how do i set it up?
[11:57] <Alxpa> and should i do 64 bit or 32
[11:57] <k1l_> damien__: the digital clock in the panel is working. so what is the issue exactly?
[11:57] <mcphail> Alxpa: depends on whether you're going to use it in a 32 bit machine. If not, use 64 bit
[11:58] <Alxpa> ok
[11:58] <damien__> i want a bigger one as well as the one pre-installed
[11:58] <mcphail> Alxpa: you'll have a choice of using your USB as a live disk (with or without peristence) or, if you want, you can do a full install of Ubuntu onto a USB disk
[11:59] <Alxpa> i want to do full install,
[11:59] <damien__> i have tried installing it but when i look for it, it's not there.
[11:59] <Alxpa> also, when i go to format there is no fat32, only exFat
[12:00] <k1l_> Alxpa: you cant do a full isntall on windows filesystems.
[12:00] <k1l_> Alxpa: you need ext4.
[12:00] <mcphail> Alxpa: you'll need to use smaller partitions for fat32. exfat is for large partitions. But, if you're installing Ubuntu, you don't need either
[12:02] <Alxpa> mcphail: im using this
[12:02] <Alxpa> https://rufus.akeo.ie/
[12:03] <k1l_> Alxpa: that will create a live-system. not a full isntall
[12:03] <damien__> any ideas mcphail
[12:04] <Alxpa> so if i used the usb in 2 diffferent PCs i would not keep that data?
[12:04] <mcphail> damien__: you still haven't given details, so no
[12:05] <damien__> i told you im using ubuntu
[12:05] <mcphail> 11:56 < mcphail> damien__: not without details? What clock, what desktop environment, what ubuntu version, what "is not working"?
[12:05] <damien__> i also told you i wanted to use a another clock
[12:08] <damien__> im using 16.04 not sure wht the desktop enviroment is
[12:08] <mcphail> damien__: is it the default desktop with the icons in the bar on the left?
[12:09] <damien__> yes
[12:09] <BluesKaj> damien__,default is Unity
[12:09] <mcphail> damien__: and what clock were you trying to install (and from where were you trying to install it?)
[12:09] <damien__> dclock
[12:11] <damien__> oh i forgot to mention the software centre
[12:11] <Alxpa> what button do u press on laptop to choose boot device?
[12:12] <damien__> esc
[12:12] <tajemicza> elo
[12:12] <mcphail> damien__: you may have to launch that one from a terminal. Have a try at the commands at the bottom of http://bazaar.launchpad.net/~ubuntu-branches/ubuntu/wily/dclock/wily/view/head:/README for examples
[12:12] <tajemicza> nie
[12:12] <mcphail> damien__: if it doesn't show anything, let us know the errors
[12:13] <tajemicza> no
[12:13] <damien__> ok thanks
[12:13] <Alxpa> mcphail: if i do "try ubuntu without installing, can i save data to my usb so to be used next time i start the pc in ubuntu"
[12:13] <mcphail> damien__: you might find a more modern clock in the store ;)
[12:14] <damien__> which store
[12:14] <mcphail> Alxpa: if you set the live USB up with persistence enabled, you should be able to save things
[12:14] <Alxpa> mcphail: where would i have done that?
[12:15] <mcphail> damien__: sorry, software centre. There _must_ be a newer one in there somewhere ;)
[12:15] <damien__> ok i'll check it out!
[12:15] <mcphail> damien__: I'm afraid I don't have any recommendations
[12:15] <fucatus> hello
[12:16] <damien__> ok
[12:16] <fucatus> i guess meta questions aren't welcome here so here is my problem: i installed bumblebee on my xubuntu and after a reboot my screen resolution was fixed to something like 600x480. from there I tried a lot of things and finally managed to get an option to change my resolution through the gui (display settings), however, the resolution didn't actually change
[12:16] <fucatus> well, after a while of trying to fix it, now all graphical surface is gone, but i still have access via console
[12:16] <mcphail> Alxpa: it is a feature of some software used to create the live USB, such as the one from Ubuntu itself
[12:16] <fucatus> is there a way for me to restore my graphics to the starting default?
[12:16] <fucatus> i tried several things and searched a lot, for example i tried reinstalling xfce, but nothing worked
[12:17] <Alxpa> brb
[12:22] <Alxpa> Would ubuntu run well on a pi zero?
[12:23] <DJones> Alxpa: Doesn't look like it, http://askubuntu.com/questions/703070/does-ubuntu-work-on-a-raspberry-pi-zero
[12:24] <Alxpa> :( DJones  i have 2
[12:25] <Alxpa> im in ubuntu, what do i type to SSH to another ubuntu machine?
[12:25] <Alxpa> it has a domain
[12:25] <destinydriven> ssh user@example.com
[12:25] <EriC^^> Alxpa: ssh user@domain
[12:26] <Alxpa> ty EriC^^
[12:26] <EriC^^> np
[12:27] <Alxpa> is there a way of broadcasting a message to all computers that are currently SSHing to your server ?
[12:27] <EriC^^> Alxpa: wall <msg>
[12:28] <Alxpa> EriC^^: it saus cannot open file hey
[12:28] <Alxpa> when i type wall hey
[12:29] <Alxpa> EriC^^: how do i get out of wall ?
[12:29] <EriC^^> ctrl+c
[12:29] <Alxpa> it didnt send it to my putty client EriC^^
[12:30] <Alxpa> EriC^^:  how do i send
[12:30] <damien__> who watches, The Big Bang Theory?
[12:30] <Alxpa> damien__:  i used to
[12:30] <Alxpa> why?
[12:30] <fucatus> so no advice on restoring the xfce gui?
[12:30] <damien__> sheldon says ubuntu is his favourite operating system
[12:31] <EriC^^> Alxpa: msg <something> works here
[12:31] <Alxpa> msg: command not found
[12:31] <EriC^^> Alxpa: sorry i meant wall <something>
[12:32] <Alxpa> that just says the file something is not founc
[12:32] <Alxpa> found
[12:32] <EriC^^> Alxpa: check "man wall"
[12:33] <damien__> I find Sheldon really amusing!
[12:34] <Alxpa> EriC^^:  echo message | wall
[12:34] <Alxpa> works
[12:34] <EriC^^> Alxpa: must be a different wall version
[12:35] <EriC^^> try man wall maybe there's an option
[12:35] <EriC^^> wall -m <something> etc
[12:36] <damien__> the whole worlds gone off the wall
[12:36] <damien__> lol
[12:37] <administrator> hi
[12:38] <Guest94490> plz help me...
[12:38] <damien__> with what
[12:38] <Guest94490> i want to install samba server with gui mood but m felt
[12:39] <damien__> ask eric he may know
[12:39] <Guest94490> plzz tell me if any one know..
[12:40] <Guest94490> m using ubuntu server 16.4 LTS
[12:41] <ikonia> Guest94490: what samba gui are you talking about
[12:41] <Guest94490> do u know samba server...for file sharing with windows
[12:41] <ikonia> yes, I'm aware of samba
[12:42] <Guest94490> so plz tell me how to install it with gui mood in ubuntu server 16.4
[12:42] <ikonia> Guest94490: what gui ?
[12:42] <Guest94490> have u any idea.
[12:43] <Pici> Ubuntu Server has no GUI
[12:43] <ikonia> Guest94490: there isn't a samba gui, there is SWAT, I'm not sure if that's been obsoleted
[12:43] <Guest94490> Graphic user interface..
[12:43] <ikonia> Guest94490: what gui are you talking about
[12:43] <Guest94490> Gui...stand for Graphic user interface
[12:43] <ikonia> Guest94490: I know what a gui is, but what gui are YOU talking about
[12:44] <ikonia> Guest94490: are you asking "is there a gui for Samba" ?
[12:44] <Guest94490> yehh
[12:44] <ikonia> Guest94490: ok, so look up samba SWAT, other than that, there really isn't a gui
[12:44] <Guest94490> okay m trying
[12:55] <computer> people, i am tyring to format an SD card, but it is not working, what is the problem?
[12:56] <computer> how do i fix it?
[12:56] <Guest94490> no application find like SWAT
[12:57] <Guest94490> found
[12:59] <Guest94490> any one know how to install samba with GUI in ubuntu Server 16.4
[12:59] <Pici> Guest94490: There may not be one.  Honestly the sama configuration file is pretty easy to understand.
[13:01] <Guest94490> pici sir m not talking about configuration ...m want to know just tell me how install gui samba in ubuntu server 16.4 LTS
[13:01] <computer> people, i am tyring to format an SD card, but it is not working, what is the problem? how to fix it?
[13:02] <Pici> Guest94490: Then I don't understand.  What else would a "samba gui" do other than provide a way to change its configuration.
[13:02] <Pici> Guest94490: Ubuntu Server has no GUI, it is command line only.
[13:03] <Guest94490> no no i all ready installed gui  packeg also
[13:03] <Guest94490> desktop version
[13:03] <Guest94490> but unable to install samba
[13:04] <Guest94490> samba is also installed but it is in CLI mod..thats why i have problem to configure
[13:05] <Guest94490> have u any idea..PiCI SIr
[13:10] <sgasser_> https://github.com/nelmio/NelmioApiDocBundle 404 :(
[13:10] <Pici> sgasser_: okay?
[13:11] <sgasser_> NelmioApiDocBundle deleted on github?
[13:11] <sgasser_> has a official symfony doc: http://symfony.com/doc/current/bundles/NelmioApiDocBundle/index.html
[13:12] <Pici> sgasser_: maybe you want #symfony or ##php, this is #ubuntu
[13:12] <sgasser_> ooops sorry ;)
[13:12] <sgasser_> :D
[13:14] <lucidguy> is it me or is 16.04 buggy?
[13:15] <ikonia> it's you
[13:15] <lowbro> yer buggy
[13:15] <computer> people, is it possible to format an SD card in ubuntu?
[13:15] <ikonia> computer: yes
[13:16] <damien__> Guest94490: Why not do a search for your query, as nobody seems to be bothered!
[13:16] <computer> how? i tried using the dick app ikonia, but i get back an error
[13:16] <Pici> damien__: they're gone
[13:16] <ikonia> damien__: people have answered before, so please don't say people are bothered
[13:16] <ikonia> not bothered
[13:16] <ikonia> computer: what error ? is it possible the sd card is already mounted
[13:17] <computer> ikonia: i will paste you the error on a link 1 moment.
[13:17] <computer> ikonia: https://da.gd/deE9
[13:18] <ikonia> computer: is this on ubuntu ?
[13:18] <computer> ikonia: yes
[13:18] <computer> ikonia: error 2: https://da.gd/vCTZH
[13:18] <ikonia> computer: so the device can't be written to as it appears it dissapeared,
[13:18] <ikonia> computer: can you actually see the disk anywhere else ?
[13:18] <k1l_> computer: are you sure the sdcard is okay? sounds like a hardware failure
[13:19] <ikonia> or it's hitten it's write limit
[13:19] <damien__> ikonia, im sorry but, i am just stating facts!
[13:19] <ikonia> hitten ?? hit
[13:19] <ikonia> damien__: no, you're not
[13:19] <ikonia> damien__: people are bothered, thats why they took the time to help
[13:19] <computer> ikonia: i see the SD card only in the disks app, not in the left application bar. i just bought 3 SD cards non of them work, when i put them in a mac they work perfectly
[13:20] <ikonia> computer: can you please show me (in a pastebin) the output of "uname -a" "sudo fdisk -l" and "mount"
[13:20] <computer> ikonia:  ok one moment
[13:20] <damien__> ikonia; that is your opinion
[13:20] <damien__> i don't share it
[13:21] <Pici> The user is gone, lets move on.
[13:21] <damien__> tell ikonia that
[13:21] <computer> ikonia: https://da.gd/EcHv
[13:22] <ikonia> computer: what's with all the ram disks ?
[13:22] <ikonia> computer: it appears the mmc is missing from that list
[13:22] <computer> i don't know
[13:22] <computer> i am using ubuntu on an 8,1 macbook pro
[13:23] <ikonia> computer: if you do "sudo fdisk -l /dev/mmcblk0" what do you get
[13:23] <computer> ikonia: fdisk: cannot open /dev/mmcblk0: Input/output error
[13:24] <ikonia> computer: so I would suggest, a.) take the card out b.) reboot c.) plug the card back in d.) re-paste the "sudo fdisk -l /dev/mmcblk0" command please
[13:24] <computer> ok ikonia one moment
[13:24] <damien__> people seem to be quitting, i wonder why
[13:24] <k1l_> computer: could be due to the funny ways apple builds its hwardware:http://askubuntu.com/questions/170634/macbook-pro-8-1-ubuntu-12-04-sd-card-reader-doesnt-work
[13:26] <computer> ikonia: fdisk: cannot open /dev/mmcblk0: Input/output error
 computer: could be due to the funny ways apple builds its hwardware:http://askubuntu.com/questions/170634/macbook-pro-8-1-ubuntu-12-04-sd-card-reader-doesnt-work
[13:27] <computer> hmmmm
[13:27] <damien__> the funny ways apple builds it's hardware! ahhh please, give me a break!
[13:27] <ikonia> computer: so it looks like it can't see the sd card, which could be tied into the link k1l_ is posting
[13:27] <ikonia> damien__: stop now - I won't ask you again, help or be quiet
[13:27] <k1l_> computer: he says it could be working with using ethernet cable instead of wifi. (or shutting wifi down)
[13:27] <damien__> stop what!
[13:28] <ikonia> damien__: these stupid snide remarks
[13:28] <ikonia> computer: if you plug/unplug the card, does the syslog show any change
[13:29] <computer> ikonia: its ok, thanks for your help, i will use the SD card on the MAC OS X, i want to install raspian os for a raspberry pi. i am trying to leave mac os x and use only ubuntu.
[13:29] <computer> ikonia: no
[13:30] <ikonia> computer: looks like that hardware is not happy in linux, I've got a later macbook pro that doesn't have this problem, so it could be down to the that specific model, I don't know without more research
[13:32] <computer> ikonia: thanks, i always has problems with ubuntu in this laptop model, wifi doesn't work i have to install the hardware etc...
[13:32] <computer> it is a 2011 model
[13:32] <ikonia> computer: I do remember specific issues with the earlier broadcom wireless
[13:44] <katerina_> Hey, is there a thing such as pastebin for sharing screenshots?
[13:44] <joelio> katerina_: just put it on imgur?
[13:44] <SchrodingersScat> !screenshot | katerina_
[13:49] <xdevnull> guys, i've bin/sh file, i have export DEBIAN_FRONTEND=noninteractive
[13:49] <xdevnull> can someone explain what this DEBIAN_FRONTEND exactly?
[13:49] <ikonia> it's an enviornment variable
[13:49] <ikonia> environment
[13:49] <Linnak> Hi, Which driver dou you recommend for nvidia card? bumblebee? nvidia-361? or nvidia-current?
[13:49] <ikonia> Linnak: bumblebee is dead
[13:50] <xdevnull> ikonia, ty
[13:51] <Linnak> ikonia, Then which one from the other two?
[13:51] <k1l_> Linnak: ubuntu uses nvidia-prime instead of bumblebee. which is the official nvidia replacement shipped with the nvidia drivers.
[13:51] <ikonia> depends on the card and how well either supports them, I suggest you research
[13:51] <constructorprobl> irc 127.0.0.1
[13:51] <ikonia> constructorprobl: ?
[13:51] <k1l_> Linnak: nvidia-current is 304 on ubuntu 16.04 while the 361 is 361 :)
[13:52] <Linnak> k1l_, I know. That's why I ask. Newer better or not as stable?
[13:53] <k1l_> Linnak: if your vard was made after 304 was released then you need the 361 driver. but 361 should be stable anyways
[13:56] <Linnak> k1l_, I have an old one. If I install 361, cause it a problem?
[13:56] <k1l_> Linnak: worth a try.
[14:00] <Linnak> k1l_, One more question please. Do I need to remove any driver after I install nvidia?
[14:00] <k1l_> Linnak: talking of what drivers?
[14:00] <guyk> Package glib-2.0 was not found in the pkg-config search path.
[14:00] <guyk> Perhaps you should add the directory containing `glib-2.0.pc'
[14:00] <guyk> to the PKG_CONFIG_PATH environment variable
[14:00] <guyk> No package 'glib-2.0' found
[14:00] <guyk> Traceback (most recent call last):
[14:00] <guyk>   File "setup.py", line 20, in <module>
[14:00] <Linnak> The opensourde gpu driver
[14:01] <k1l_> Linnak: if you installed nvidia drivers from their website or such then first remove them. if you have the standard opensource noveau driver running, then no. the nvidia install will blacklist it.
[14:01] <Linnak> Thank you
[14:01] <Linnak> T reboot now
[14:02] <guyk> 怎么回事啊？
[14:02] <Bernzel> I'm trying to install Windows 7 and remove my ubuntu installation. But none of my drives where available to format or write too because they weren't NTSF or something?
[14:02] <guyk> I want to install calibre
[14:03] <guyk> Package glib-2.0 was not found in the pkg-config search path. Perhaps you should add the directory containing `glib-2.0.pc'
[14:04] <guyk> How to solve ah
[14:04] <guyk> 怎么都没有人说话啊
[14:04] <guyk> 求助啊
[14:04] <Haris> hello all
[14:04] <Haris> is there a stun server that we can setup for asterisk on ubuntu 14.4 LTS ?
[14:05] <Randomness> i'm getting a laptop with 128 gb ssd and 4 gb ram, which i intend to install ubuntu 16.04 lts on. when doing so, should i create a swap partition? if the swap partition is used it will wear&tear the ssd, if i don't have it, most ram intensive program will crash if i need more ram than i got. any thoughts appreciated!
[14:05] <Randomness> i could create a swap partition and limit swapiness from 60 down to 10 or even 0, but whats the point of the swap partition at all then?
[14:05] <zykotick9> Randomness: also consider, swap is required for hibernation...
[14:05] <k1l_> guyk: what ubunut is that exactly?
[14:06] <guyk> I use ubuntu mate 1604
[14:06] <k1l_> !info calibre
[14:07] <Randomness> zykotick9: from my understanding when i either lock or close the laptop lid ubuntu does not hibernate, if i lock it pretty much does nothing and if i close the lid it suspends. ill only ever shut it down, lock it or close the lid.
[14:07] <Randomness> will ubuntu ever hibernate by default?
[14:07] <Randomness> if battery is running low?
[14:07] <justxux> guyk, Please go to #ubuntu-mate . They will likely help you better,cuz it's their official support channel.
[14:07] <mistawright> hi guys i have almost 70+ gigs of tmp files and need to clear them out. I can ls the directory nor run a command to delete by date. this is on a running server as well. what would be the best way to clear these files?
[14:08] <Randomness> mistawright: sudo?
[14:08] <Bernzel> anyone know how to solve my issue?
[14:08] <zykotick9> Randomness: i think ubuntu disables all hibernation (by default) but you can enable it, if you hardware supports it...
[14:09] <jair> hello all, do we know if there is a solution for the google repo showing: W: http://dl.google.com/linux/chrome/deb/dists/stable/Release.gpg: Signature by key 4CCA1EAF950CEE4AB83976DCA040830F7FAC5991 u
[14:09] <Randomness> zykotick9: so if i don't ever manually hibernate, i will be fine with no swap partition? any other con to not having swap partition?
[14:09] <Hesulan> mistawright: there are lots of /tmp cleaner daemons out there... 'tmpreaper' is a common one from what I've heard... they're designed to work on running servers without a reboot
[14:09] <mistawright> Randomness, this is with me as root
[14:10] <justxux> Bernzel, What was installed previous on your Hard-Drive?
[14:10] <Hesulan> mistawright: too early in the morning, just now noticed the part about not being able to ls or delete by date... if that means what I think you mean, then idk, sorry
[14:10] <zykotick9> Randomness: ahh, i'm not suggesting that really.  i was just noting swap was required for hibernation <- that's my _only_ point.  personally, i don't expect my SSD drives to last for ever, and use swap on them... thus far, no failures (after several years) but YMMV.
[14:10] <Bernzel> justxux, I have ubuntu 14.04 installed now
[14:11] <Haris> ok, coming back in a bit
[14:11] <Bernzel> justxux, what I had before this was win 7
[14:11] <justxux> Bernzel, So now you have only Ubuntu partition? Right?
[14:12] <Bernzel> justxux, I would guess so yes. I'm sure I formated the SSD when installing Ubuntu
[14:13] <Randomness> zykotick9: alright, yeah, a drew a hasty conclusion there. as you mentioned you use swap partition on laptops with ssd, how much ram do you have on that/those laptops? how much swap space do you use per ram, ram*2? what have you set swapiness too? (promise i will stop nagging soon. ^^)
[14:13] <Randomness> *a = I
[14:13] <justxux> Bernzel, If you want to install Windows 7 only you need, copy your important data to external sources,then install Windows 7. And than format your drives as NTFS.
[14:15] <Bernzel> justxux, I have copied all data I want to my other internal drive, so that one I won't touch with any formatting. But the thing is I couldn't format the SSD when I had booted from the Windows USB. So I need to do something with the drive before
[14:15] <zykotick9> Randomness: on the system i'm typing on right now, i've not 8GB RAM and a 4GB swap (and hibernation hasn't failed yet!) <- only cause i upgraded from 4GB->8GB RAM after install
[14:15] <justxux> Bernzel, Or you can create an NTFS partition from you Ubuntu 14.04,than copy your data there. After that you will use it as Disk :D ,, or something like that. Than install Windows 7 on other partition that you will create.
[14:16] <zykotick9> Randomness: ramx2 is a bit overkill these days (but i guess it depends on what you are doin').  typically i use RAM+'a little' as my swap size.
[14:17] <Bernzel> justxux, but the partitions I would need to format isn't available to format from the windows installation USB. So do I use GParted to format my drive?
[14:18] <justxux> Bernzel, You can use Gparted but from USB Live Image.
[14:19] <justxux> And format to NTFS
[14:19] <Bernzel> justxux, I have no CD's , is it possible through usb?
[14:19] <justxux> Yes
[14:20] <justxux> Bernzel, Yes it is.
[14:20] <Randomness> zykotick9: alright. thank you very much. i'm stuck at 4gb ram for now, but i got a spare slot, so will eventually get myself some more ram as well. did hibernation fail before you upgraded to 8gb, or was just more swap used? i won't be using the laptop intensively, so i guess ill be fine with swap=0.5*ram as well. i just read this: https://help.ubuntu.com/community/SwapFaq, and it suggest using min 1*ram to max 2*ram, but probabl
[14:20] <Randomness> (hopefully the last question i direct at you.)
[14:20] <Randomness> thanks for your time! appreciate it!
[14:21] <justxux> Bernzel, I'll give you a link : http://ubuntu-mate.org/how-to-create-bootable-usb-drive/
[14:21] <Bernzel> thanks justxux !
[14:21] <justxux> Bernzel, Glad to help
[14:24] <zykotick9> Randomness: as a "general rule" for hibernation, swap sould be at least the same size as physical ram... BUT if you are using less than all the ram, you can get away with less swap than physical ram, but if i did something very ram intesive - then tried to hibernate, it would fail.  best of luck.
[14:25] <Randomness> zykotick9: thanks for the help! appreciate it!
[14:30] <hugo> hugo_88888
[14:32] <Bernzel> justxux, just one thing, what I should install on the usb is this right: http://www.ubuntu.com/download/desktop to be able to boot and change the partitions?
[14:33] <Jakey3> is there a way to setup 2 factor authentication on a home server
[14:33] <Jakey3> ?
[14:37] <justxux> Bernzel, Yes
[14:39] <Bernzel> justxux, ok good. I'm quite worried I'll wipe out my other drive in this process..
[14:39] <Bernzel> hate changing OS
[14:42] <Pinkamena_D> In the dash when I search if I change to another type of search, for example from 'programs' to 'documents', it erases my typed search and I have to type it again. Is there a way to have it not erase my search when I choose a different category.
[14:42] <Pinkamena_D> ?
[14:42] <justxux> Bernzel, If you dont know for sure than check couple of times before committing changes. If you have 2 drives than 1 should be labeled as "sda" other as "adb" or something like that,just pick the right drive to commit changes on and everything will be okay
[14:42] <justxux> Bernzel, Sorry other drive should be labeled as "sdb" not "adb"
[14:43] <Bernzel> ok I'll give it a go now
[14:43] <R13ose> which program do I use to record audio from my speakers?  I have tried the audio recording program and audacity which hasn't been able to do this.  Do I need to have my mic on to do this?
[14:44] <justxux> Bernzel, Just dont forget to read everything carefully, and take your time.
[14:45] <Bernzel> justxux, is it ok if I enter this chat on my phone and have you hold my hand during the process *hehe* ? In case I get uncertain of something
[14:46] <justxux> Bernzel, Gotta go home in 20 minutes so if you can manage than let's try
[14:47] <k-joseph> hi guys; sed '/^\#/d' "/path/to/file.txt" | grep "substringStartingALine" | tail -n 1 | cut -d "=" -f2- returns the "weeee" if there's a line in /path/to/file.txt that looks like "substringStartingALine=weeee" unfortunately it returns the same with only a line that looks like;  "substringStartingALine=weee", how can i fix this regex experts?
[14:48] <Bernzel> justxux, ok well it seems it's putting up a fight. So might take a while
[14:49] <justxux> Bernzel, You can wait like 1 hour before ill be at home
[14:50] <arunpyasi> Hello guys, I am trying to install Ubuntu in my laptop but I am having issue, I get the grub-efi-amd64-signed package failed to install into /target/ error
[14:50] <justxux> Bernzel, What format partition do you have on your other hard-drive?
[14:52] <spiros> Hello :) . How can I use HexChat. I just came here by mistake :p
[14:52] <R13ose> Any thoughts on my question?
[14:53] <tgm4883> R13ose: uh, to record audio from your speakers?
[14:54] <R13ose> yes I have tried many tutorials on the internet but none of them are recording anything.
[14:54] <R13ose> I have a video playing and I want to record the audio.
[14:54] <justxux> tgm4883, I think he meant to record his output directly
[14:54] <tgm4883> ah
[14:55] <R13ose> right
[14:55] <justxux> R13ose, I've done that like years ago,but forget how. Let me look up a bit
[14:55] <tgm4883> I've not tried that, but I would use pulseaudio to create a monitor of the speakers and then try to get audacity to listen to that
[14:56] <R13ose> tgm4883: I tried and nothing is being recorded.
[14:56] <tgm4883> R13ose: even after creating the monitor in PA?
[14:56] <R13ose> justxux: if you want the link to the audio let  me know.
[14:56] <R13ose> tgm4883: yes
[14:56] <Lovkesh> Hi all. I am just trying to install Ubuntu 16.04 on my dos laptop using Linux live usb creator , rufus, and also dd command but i got the following errors                     failed to load ldlinux.c32 , unknown keyword in the configuration file: some symbols no default or ui configuration directive found , isolinux.bin missing or corrupt respectively.... so what can i do
[14:56] <justxux> arunpyasi, Try this fix : http://askubuntu.com/questions/676710/ubuntu-14-04-3-install-grub-efi-amd64-signed-failed-dualboot-windows-uefi
[14:57] <Lovkesh> Its urgent pls help
[14:57] <sara> HI I have a RAdeon R5 integrated graphics card I want to run amd's propriatary drivers for max excelleration with gaming. Anyone know where theres directions for Xenial?
[14:57] <justxux> R13ose, give me the link
[14:58] <R13ose> justxux: http://bit.ly/1Za8xgM
[14:58] <justxux> Lovkesh, Try to create bootable USB this way : http://ubuntu-mate.org/how-to-create-bootable-usb-drive/
[14:58] <R13ose> justxux: if you are able to capture the full audio there, and upload this somewhere for me to download that would be great too.
[14:58] <arunpyasi> justxux: will this work as I have UEFI ?
[14:59] <arunpyasi> justxux: I think I need to setup with UEFI !! Is UEFI good or MBR ?
[14:59] <sara> should I be reinstalling Ubuntu 15 in order to get it working?
[15:00] <arunpyasi> and BTW, I am running 16.04, is it a bug ? I had seen some bugs stuffs in launchpad regarding this !!
[15:00] <sara> ok Guess I am installing 15 thanks
[15:01] <Lovkesh> Can you tell me why i am getting such errors? I have previously installed Ubuntu never got them.
[15:01] <justxux> arunpyasi, UEFI and Linux dont work so well together in some cases. Try to search for some results in Google .  Not quite sure about bug tho
[15:02] <arunpyasi> justxux: so, shall I use MBR ?
[15:02] <justxux> You should disable SEcure Boot in BIOS
[15:03] <arunpyasi> justxux: hm.. so, Linux won't be installed in GPT partition ?
[15:03] <EriC^^> arunpyasi: hi
[15:04] <kahrl> Hi, I'm trying to install gmsh on 14.04 and apt-get wants to remove libhdf5-7 in favor of libhdf5-openmpi-7. Is that safe or could it break packages like octave, paraview, ...?
[15:04] <LTCD> Hey, got a question: http://askubuntu.com/questions/779929/force-all-deletes-to-be-secure?noredirect=1#comment1167264_779929
[15:05] <justxux> arunpyasi, try this : http://www.everydaylinuxuser.com/2015/11/how-to-install-ubuntu-linux-alongside.html
[15:05] <arunpyasi> EriC^^: I recovered the HDD with Hiren's Boot CD :D
[15:06] <popey> LTCD: what is your question?
[15:06] <Jordan_U> LTCD: What is the advantage of shredding files when you're already using LUKS encryption?
[15:06] <LTCD> popey Didn't you see the link? Be easier to read it there than for me to write it all out here.
[15:07] <popey> i did see the link, but what's your specific question
[15:07] <LTCD> Jordan_U popey In case they get access to server when it's still on encryption won't help. So how can I force server to ALWAYS use secure delete (shred) not rm?
[15:08] <justxux> R13ose, Did you tried this tutorial?
[15:08] <justxux> R13ose, http://askubuntu.com/questions/229352/how-to-record-output-to-speakers
[15:08] <popey> LTCD: there's already a lengthy askubuntu question about this. http://askubuntu.com/questions/57572/how-to-delete-files-in-secure-manner
[15:09] <R13ose> justxux: I did try that tutorial
[15:10] <justxux> R13ose, I'm trying now
[15:10] <LTCD> popey You misunderstood the question. I know what shred is, and I know how to shred a while HDD. What I am asking is how whenever someone uses the command rm (or other unsecure delete commands) that instead it gets replaced with shred. Perhaps I could edit bash_profile or something? No idea not a Linux guru yet.
[15:10] <popey> LTCD: no, I fully understood the question
[15:10] <popey> LTCD: it's not an easy one to do, not everything uses "rm"
[15:10] <R13ose> justxux: if this works on your end, would you be able to fully record the audio and upload this somewhere for me to download?
[15:10] <popey> LTCD: most will use a system call for deleting/unlinking files
[15:10] <popey> LTCD: this seems overkill given an encrypted drive
[15:13] <tgm4883> LTCD: yea that seems like overkill. If they gain access to your running box, it's game over anyway
[15:13] <LTCD> tgm4883 Yes but if any temporary files were deleted recently by system they would be unable to recover them.
[15:14] <LTCD> BTW is anyone here from America? Need a super quick favour.
[15:14] <LTCD> popey If it's super difficult then forget it.
[15:14] <popey> it's probably possible LTCD
[15:14] <kostas_> hi everyone, anyone with experience in ltsp thin clients? I'm planning a ltsp server at home for the family, it should serve 4 desktops with AMD Athlon 64x x2, 2GB Ram and, gigabit ethernet cards-switches-cat5e cable, 1GB PCIe graphics cards! My question: how would the performance be? not interested in games, just 720p-1080p videos, internet and office suits. Who does video decoding? my server or the graphics card? my sperver specs: intel I
[15:14] <kostas_> 5 with 8GB Ram and 250GB SSD
[15:15] <justxux> R13ose, Yep
[15:15] <tgm4883> LTCD: who cares? If I gain access to your box, I'm not looking for some quick files. I'm waiting patiently in the background to get info as it's added
[15:15] <popey> LTCD: to intercept delete / unlink syscalls, but like I say, overkill
[15:15] <R13ose> justxux: thanks
[15:15] <tgm4883> LTCD: and at that point, I'm bypass whatever change you just did anyway
[15:16] <obZen> Anyone know of a ppa to get kde partitionmanager 2.2 on Ubuntu 16.04?
[15:16] <obZen> I really need it .-.
[15:16] <kyrose> Hi, where can I get free resources to learn bash scripting and linux command line app development?
[15:17] <LTCD> tgm4883 Not exactly, in MY scenario if it's raided it will be for something from at least an hour or two ago. Most likely it'll be from like a few weeks ago, but I want to play it safe.
[15:17] <tgm4883> LTCD: yea, but in my scenario, I don't gain access to your system and wait a few hours, I gather information for months.
[15:18] <LTCD> popey Any idea how I could do that? intercept delete / unlink syscalls
[15:18] <justxux> R13ose, It worked i jsut selected in Pavucontrol alsa plugin  from monitor of built-in audio
[15:18] <popey> LTCD: http://stackoverflow.com/questions/8588386/intercepting-file-system-system-calls
[15:18] <LTCD> tgm4883: Sure I got that, however it's unlikely people use my service more than once. I've done a lot to stop them from tracking server.
[15:19] <tgm4883> LTCD: what service is this?
[15:19] <R13ose> justxux: Great news.  Let me know when you have a downloaded file for me.
[15:19] <justxux> R13ose, Ok
[15:19] <R13ose> justxux: thanks again
[15:19] <LTCD> tgm4883 Crypto related. It can be run locally or from your own server, this will be open source once I'm done with my final year project.
[15:21] <Jordan_U> LTCD: Remember that the more "clever" stuff you do, the more likely you are to accidentally add a security vulnerability. Stick to tried and true, and supported, methods of adding security.
[15:22] <LTCD> Jordan_U:  +1
[15:23] <GivenToCode> can i have a udev script i'd like to invoke an upstart service, but the upstart service needs to ensure other things are complete. Can I set it up so that the udev script starts the upstart service but it doesn't really start until all of its dependencies are started?
[15:25] <Jordan_U> GivenToCode: Does this need to happen on 14.04 LTS? Because it sounds like something that would be much easier to do with systemd's dependency based system.
[15:27] <LTCD> Jordan_U popey Thanks to you and anyone that answered though
[15:28] <kostas_> hi everyone, anyone with experience in ltsp thin clients? I'm planning a ltsp server at home for the family, it should serve 4 desktops with AMD Athlon 64x x2, 2GB Ram and, gigabit ethernet cards-switches-cat5e cable, 1GB PCIe graphics cards! My question: how would the performance be? not interested in games, just 720p-1080p videos, internet and office suits. Who does video decoding? my server or the graphics card? my sperver specs: intel I
[15:28] <kostas_> 5 with 8GB Ram and 250GB SSD
[15:30] <tgm4883> kostas_: I believe everything is still done on the client
[15:31] <tgm4883> kostas_: wait, I might be thinking of just straight pxeboot
[15:31] <kostas_> tdgm4883: thank you for your reply! so video decoding will not stress the server's CPU but the clients GPU? doesn't this defeat the whole purpose of the thin client then? I've done a lot of reading so far on the net
[15:31] <AtuM> Is there a howto on getting lte modem working with ubuntu? I have a m.2 me936 available
[15:32] <niklas> hey
[15:32] <kostas_> tgm4883: no pxeboot, just ltsp... an edubuntu thin client solution for the whole family
[15:32] <justxux> R13ose, It's done but what will you do in the future? You know now how to do this?
[15:32] <R13ose> justxux: I try this again and if fails I will try another computer.
[15:33] <tgm4883> kostas_: not sure then
[15:34] <kostas_> tgm4883: no problem, thanks then!
[15:34] <ducasse> kostas_: the x server on the client will be responsible for drawing, so decoding video will be done by the clients gpu.
[15:34] <R13ose> justxux: where is the file?
[15:35] <justxux> R13ose, it's not he computer just select an option in pavucontrol under recording tab,when you'll start to record with audacity,you'll see there is a drop down box choose unchecked variant than youll see it should work ,cheers . File : https://mega.nz/#!1BZCTRza
[15:35] <R13ose> justxux: key?
[15:36] <kostas_> ducasse: so rendering web pages will be done on the client itself as well? how does a low specs thin client benefit then in terms of speed, if it can't handle the stress?
[15:36] <justxux> R13ose, !l5HTZAhZOBeVOjuzQH-ialZ9Br_dIqebbGtINgqJGKU
[15:37] <ducasse> kostas_: rendering web pages will be partly done by the server cpu, the client does _display_.
[15:37] <justxux> R13ose, Works?
[15:37] <R13ose> justxux: yes
[15:37] <justxux> R13ose, Ok IM out,have a nice day
[15:37] <kostas_> ducasse: even youtube and html5?
[15:38] <R13ose> justxux: thanks
[15:38] <ducasse> kostas_: video is normally decoded by the x server/gpu.
[15:40] <kostas_> ducasse: so everything else is done server side! thank you for clearing this up for me. so I'm good with my setup for home use?! gaming is done on an XBOX360 and amiga :-P so no games gaming on my network
[15:40] <niklas> nice
[15:41] <ducasse> kostas_: i'm guessing it should work fine, as long as the client gpu can handle video decoding.
[15:42] <knight_> #asciinema
[15:42] <kostas_> ducasse: 1GB PCIe graphics cards, they do! I tested open elec on them with 720p-1080p sample files and they're going hardly over 30% CPU ussage
[15:43] <ducasse> kostas_: then you should be fine.
[15:44] <kostas_> ducasse: next round of beers is on me ;-)
[15:45] <kahrl> hi, I'm trying to install gmsh (on 14.04) and apt-get wants to remove libhdf5-7 in favor of libhdf5-openmpi-7. Is that safe or could it break packages like octave, paraview, ...?
[15:46] <niklas> do you want to try it out on a xubuntu vm?
[15:48] <brushdemon> .>.
[15:48] <kahrl> niklas: me?
[15:48] <niklas> yes
[15:48] <niklas> before you break anything on your real pc
[15:49] <kahrl> I'm fine, I have spare machines to test it on, I already did and it seems fine
[15:49] <niklas> ok
[15:49] <kahrl> but I don't know if it could break something subtle in the future
[15:52] <brunch875> Whoever wrote the English (International AltGr dead keys) layout is an absolute genious
[15:52] <brunch875> But he didn't sign himself as an author
[15:52] <brunch875> so I cannot thank him
[15:53] <Lovkesh> justxux: i am getting the same error
[15:54] <Cyber_Akuma> Does the nvidia control panel exist for linux like the one in windows?
[15:54] <Lovkesh> Isolinux.bin missing
[15:54] <niklas> yes
[15:54] <Mordoc_Mystery> Cyber_Akuma: Yes.
[15:54] <k1l_> Cyber_Akuma: there is nvidia settings when you install the nvidia from the repos. yes
[15:55] <Cyber_Akuma> thanks
[15:56] <Cyber_Akuma> Do any type of GPU stress tests exist? And if so, can they test SLI? I am trying to see if something is wrong with my 3D cards.
[15:56] <baizon> Cyber_Akuma: yes there are
[15:58] <Randomness> just out of curiousity is everything on "ubuntu-16.04-desktop-amd64" open source? i guess everything except for the third party items (mp3, etc) is.
[15:58] <Cyber_Akuma> Are they in the repos? What are they cled?
[15:58] <Cyber_Akuma> called*
[15:58] <Lovkesh> I want to install Ubuntu 16.04 but getting isolinux.bin missing or corrupt..can anyone help
[15:58] <k1l_> Randomness: and the various drivers.
[15:59] <k1l_> Lovkesh: how did you make that ubuntu usb?
[16:00] <tgm4883> Cyber_Akuma: you could run the phoronix test suite from the graphics PPA  https://launchpad.net/~graphics-drivers/+archive/ubuntu/ppa
[16:00] <Randomness> k1l_: yeah, and the drivers. alright.
[16:01] <Lovkesh> I have tried all ways Linux live USB creater, Rufus, dd command, gnome disk utility
[16:01] <niklas> How about Universal USB Installer or Yumi?
[16:01] <Lovkesh> I am getting different errors with all
[16:02] <Cyber_Akuma> i used universal so i could have a persistant area
[16:02] <Randomness> k1l_: does ubuntu install any closed source drivers during install, or is just after ubuntu is installed that you can install closed source drivers? so if you install ubuntu without the third party (mp3 etc) the complete system is open source?
[16:02] <Lovkesh> Failed to load ldlinux.c32
[16:02] <moriaz> Lovkesh: you could just download linux + initrd.gz and boot them directly from your grub
[16:02] <k1l_> Lovkesh: what iso is that at all? which OS do you use to make that usb? did you check the md5sum?
[16:02] <Randomness> and dont install closed server drivers afterwards.
[16:02] <AtuM> would someone please paste (privatelly) the contents of /usr/share/sessions/ubuntu.desktop file ?
[16:02] <AtuM> for 16.04
[16:02] <Cyber_Akuma> tgm4883, I dont understand how to use this
[16:03] <Lovkesh> I have windows as well xubuntu on a 32 bit pc
[16:03] <k1l_> Randomness: iirc yes. the live iso includes some drivers to get a working system but most of the drivers need to be installed after the install.
[16:03] <tgm4883> Cyber_Akuma: did you go to that link? It shows how to run the test suite
[16:03] <Mordoc_Mystery> Lovkesh, maybe asked before but is this with the same USB key or different ones?
[16:03] <Randomness> k1l_: thanks!
[16:03] <Lovkesh> But i want to create for 64 bit dos laptop
[16:03] <moriaz> Lovkesh: if you already have a working system then you should look into netbooting to install a new linux, because that way you won't have to deal with any iso images or CD's or USB's
[16:03] <k1l_> Lovkesh: a siple "dd" command should work best to make sure its a 1 to 1 copy
[16:04] <niklas> Lovkesh try to redownload the iso
[16:04] <niklas> Or just another programs, commands
[16:04] <Lovkesh> It is giving isolinux.bin corrupt or missing
[16:04] <Lovkesh> I checked for an iso of kali linux
[16:04] <Cyber_Akuma> let me read it agaim
[16:04] <SebthreeBQM10HD> hi
[16:04] <Lovkesh> It worked well with rufus
[16:05] <Lovkesh> But gave isolinux.bin missing with dd
[16:05] <moriaz> Lovkesh: download linux and initrd-gz then boot then from your grub
[16:05] <Cyber_Akuma> Is this just a benchmark or actual stress test though
[16:05] <Lovkesh> I didn't get that @moriaz
[16:06] <Lovkesh> I am not too much into linux
[16:06] <Cyber_Akuma> Also...... do you have any idea how much space the suite takes? Since I am running it off of a live usb
[16:08] <tgm4883> Cyber_Akuma: wait, this is a live USB?
[16:09] <moriaz> Lovkesh: you don't have to deal with iso images
[16:09] <tgm4883> Cyber_Akuma: The documentation suggests that there are stress testing runs http://www.phoronix-test-suite.com/documentation/phoronix-test-suite.pdf
[16:09] <moriaz> Lovkesh: what is installed on that pc?
[16:10] <tgm4883> Cyber_Akuma: Since you are in a live session, are you sure you have the drivers both installed and loaded?
[16:10] <Lovkesh> I have windows 10 installed
[16:10] <Cyber_Akuma> i installed them, but i havent checked if they are running
[16:10] <SebthreeBQM10HD> s
[16:11] <Lovkesh> Rest partition unallocated
[16:11] <tgm4883> Cyber_Akuma: they aren't, since they require a reboot
[16:11] <Cyber_Akuma> Its a windows machine, i want to test why its crashing
[16:11] <Samy__> hey i am building a project using cmake but getting errors https://paste.kde.org/plm2qnm4q though qt is installed in /home/user
[16:12] <Cyber_Akuma> i am not in the liveusb atm, i was earlier, going to go back to it when this backup is done
[16:12] <Cyber_Akuma> just want to know what to do once im back
[16:12] <tgm4883> Cyber_Akuma: well you can't run proprietary drivers in the live session
[16:12] <Cyber_Akuma> Not even with a persistant file?
[16:13] <tgm4883> Cyber_Akuma: maybe
[16:14] <tgm4883> Cyber_Akuma: AFAIK, it's a completely unsupported scenario. It's worth a shot, but if it doesn't work you'd be pretty much on your own
[16:14] <Cyber_Akuma> Hmm.... does anything like prime95 exist for ubuntu too? Might as well test that it wasnt a cpu issue
[16:14] <tgm4883> Cyber_Akuma: yes
[16:14] <tgm4883> !burn
[16:14] <tgm4883> hmm
[16:14] <Pici> !info cpuburn
[16:14] <niklas> xfburn is also burning tool
[16:15] <tgm4883> Pici: +1
[16:15] <Cyber_Akuma> Than again.... i have my backup app set to mac compression, I am guessing that would tax the CPU already?
[16:15] <Cyber_Akuma> max*
[16:15] <tgm4883> Cyber_Akuma: Unknown. If your backup app is only single threaded, then no
[16:15] <niklas> Cyber_Akuma what are you going to do? What do you want to do?
[16:16] <Cyber_Akuma> niklas, Windows started BSODing on me, i want to test my hardware in ubuntu to see if its the hardware or software
[16:16] <niklas> okay
[16:17] <Cyber_Akuma> I'm pretty sure its software but i want to make sure before i go on a wild goose chase in my system files
[16:17] <Cyber_Akuma> already ran two passes of memtest86+, my ram is fine
[16:18] <steven> is there a way to set sdX letters to a fix value for each hdd?
[16:18] <tgm4883> steven: why?
[16:18] <steven> because?
[16:18] <steven> atm I use em in a script and it sucks that they change after reboot
[16:18] <ducasse> steven: use /dev/disk/by-id/...
[16:18] <tgm4883> steven: probably?
[16:18] <moriaz> steven: you could create symbolic links
[16:19] <R13ose> tgm4883: justxux was able to record this but I think didn't record 20 or so seconds at the front.  I was able to figure this out on my end and record this.
[16:19] <steven> ducasse that I could use, yes. I was just wondering if there was a way to prevent it from happening in general :)
[16:19] <ducasse> steven: not really, as those interfaces are provided already.
[16:20] <AndroUser> I've just booted from my USB with a live version of ubuntu on it. Now I need to "clean" my drive so I can install Windows. Where should I go? "Try Ubuntu without installing"?
[16:20] <steven> just iirc other liux dists dont have that issue. but I am not 100 sure on that
[16:20] <steven> anyway in that case, uuid it is. thanks :)
[16:20] <sipior> steven: you could muck about with your udev config. more trouble than it's worth, though.
[16:20] <steven> oh yeah I can see that
[16:21] <tgm4883> AndroUser: you want to wipe the drive and install windows?
[16:21] <ducasse> steven: just use the fixed paths that exists, instead of hacking together something different.
[16:22] <Cyber_Akuma> niklas, any suggestions?
[16:22] <Cyber_Akuma> AndroUser, by clean, do you mean just format, or actually wipe data so its unrecoverable?
[16:22] <AndroUser> tgm4883 yes. I tried booting from my windows usb but the drive was in the wrong format or something, so I couldn't format the drive, hence not install windows
[16:23] <niklas> Xfbsuite is a benchmarking tool with nbench (CPU), stream (RAM) cachebench (L1/L2 CPU Cache) Perl HDD Benchmark X11perf
[16:23] <Cyber_Akuma> You can from the windows installer
[16:23] <niklas> Cyber_Akuma
[16:23] <tgm4883> AndroUser: not sure what wrong format means, but you should be able to "wipe" the drive from the live session with gparted
[16:24] <SebthreeBQM10HD> hi
[16:24] <AndroUser> tgm4883 well it said something about it being/not being in NTSF format
[16:24] <niklas> AndroUser try to format the USB with GParted or something like that.
[16:24] <Cyber_Akuma> AndroUser, you can delete all the partitions from the windows installer
[16:24] <tgm4883> AndroUser: right, so you delete it in the windows installer
[16:24] <Cyber_Akuma> it will then auto-create partitions for you
[16:24] <frechdachs69> Q: is there a patch for 14.04 which disables SSL v3 support inside Qt?
[16:25] <AndroUser> Cyber_Akuma I cannot do such a thing
[16:25] <Cyber_Akuma> You can, what version are you installing?
[16:25] <tgm4883> AndroUser: just open gparted and delete the partitions
[16:25] <AndroUser> I wasnt able to do anything at all with the drive from the windows installer
[16:25] <niklas> yup tgm4883 i already suggested that
[16:25] <niklas> It would be the best idea
[16:25] <AndroUser> tgn4883 and I open gparted by "Trying Ubuntu without installing"?
[16:26] <tgm4883> niklas: Yea, I did to. But apparently it needs repeating
[16:26] <Cyber_Akuma> niklas, Is this in the repos or would i have to install it myself?
[16:26] <tgm4883> AndroUser: yes, gparted is an installed application
[16:26] <tgm4883> AndroUser: so you would fire up the live session then start it
[16:27] <AndroUser> Ok let see.
[16:27] <Cyber_Akuma> also
[16:27] <Cyber_Akuma> what version of windows are you installing?
[16:27] <Cyber_Akuma> and do you have a drive over 2tb in the system?
[16:27] <niklas> Cyber_Akuma: https://sourceforge.net/projects/fbsuite/
[16:28] <Cyber_Akuma> I have no idea how to install something from a tar file in linux :(
[16:28] <Fuchs> Cyber_Akuma: usually you don't
[16:29] <AndroUser> Im in Gparted. Is sdb the lable for the drive with the os on?
[16:29] <Cyber_Akuma> i know
[16:29] <Fuchs> Cyber_Akuma: see if there is a package available instead. Otherwise: there is a README or INSTALL along, usually you compile it, with make or cmake doing most of the ugly things for you, but that will bypass your package management, which is bad
[16:29] <Cyber_Akuma> AndroUser, maybe you should post a screenshot of gparted, systems can be different
[16:29] <tgm4883> AndroUser: IDK, you'd have to figure that out
[16:29] <tgm4883> AndroUser: Look at the size, which one is the size of your HDD
[16:29] <niklas> AndroUser you must find out how big the usb drive is and then format it
[16:30] <Cyber_Akuma> Fuchs, its the sourceforge link niklas posted
[16:30] <AndroUser> Yeah well I'm quite certain Im in the right drive. What do I do from here
[16:30] <MonkeyDust> AndroUser  linux uses /dev/sda , /dev/sdb etc, like windows uses C: D: etc
[16:30] <tgm4883> Cyber_Akuma: you aren't really instlaling it. You extract it and just run the executabl
[16:30] <niklas> Cyber_Akuma: in the archive is a install.sh file
[16:30] <niklas> Just run sudo ./install.sh
[16:30] <tgm4883> or maybe you do
[16:30] <Cyber_Akuma> your drive can have multiple partitons AndroUser
[16:30] <tgm4883> stupid instructions
[16:30] <niklas> from the folder, you must navigate to the folder in the terminal
[16:30] <Cyber_Akuma> ok
[16:30] <tgm4883> AndroUser: click on the partitions and then click delete
[16:31] <niklas> but first extract it ;)
[16:31] <tgm4883> AndroUser: http://askubuntu.com/questions/342857/how-to-wipe-format-entire-disk-using-gparted
[16:32] <Cyber_Akuma> I really think it would be easier to use the windows installer to do it...
[16:32] <tgm4883> Cyber_Akuma: possibly
[16:32] <AndroUser> Cyber_Akuma I dont understand how I would be able to do that?
[16:32] <tgm4883> AndroUser: you're already in gparted, just do it there
[16:33] <Samy__> hey i am building a project in Ubuntu using cmake but getting errors https://paste.kde.org/plm2qnm4q though qt is installed in /home/user
[16:33] <AndroUser> tgm4883 there are 3 partitions on that drive. Only one is available for deleting.
[16:33] <Cyber_Akuma> Ugh, 24 hours, backup isn't even 50% done.... and im not even sure if it will finish or run out of space
[16:33] <nacc> Samy__: are you sure it's a -D flag and not an environment variable?
[16:34] <tgm4883> AndroUser: screenshot?
[16:34] <Cyber_Akuma> AndroUser, can youps ascenso?
[16:34] <Cyber_Akuma> ...
[16:34] <Cyber_Akuma> i hate wirless keybords
[16:34] <niklas> AndroUser please post a screenshot
[16:35] <Cyber_Akuma> yeah, what they said
[16:35] <Samy__> nacc: my CMakeCache.txt http://sprunge.us/ICeM
[16:35] <AndroUser> tgm4883 http://imgur.com/iuG4Jn1
[16:36] <niklas> is that your flash drive?
[16:36] <AndroUser> That is my ssd drive which I tend to install windows on
[16:36] <tgm4883> AndroUser: is 5 mounted? You'll have to delete that one first
[16:36] <Cyber_Akuma> sdb2 looks like it
[16:36] <Samy__> naac: is it an environment variable?
[16:36] <nacc> Samy__: um, so your cache file says "CMAKE_PREFIX_PATH:UNINITIALIZED=/home/divyam/Qt5.6.0/5.6/gcc_64" but you're passing "CMAKE_PREFIX_PATH=/home/user/Qt5.6.0/5.6/gcc_64/lib/cmake/" ?
[16:37] <nacc> Samy__: for one thing, a PREFIX_PATH generally would not go down that far into the directory structure
[16:37] <nacc> Samy__: and for another do you actually have a "user" user?
[16:37] <Cyber_Akuma> can you delete an exended partiton without deleting the logical partitions in it first?
[16:37] <Samy__> nacc: i have tried multiple ranging from /gcc_64 to gcc_64/lib to the above provided nothing worked
[16:37] <AndroUser> tgm4883 I cant delete that one. Only move and resize
[16:37] <Samy__> nacc: no i replaced user with my user name
[16:38] <tgm4883> AndroUser: Can you pastebin the output of the "mount" command in a terminal
[16:38] <niklas> AndroUser can you give tgm4883 access to your desktop with teamviewer
[16:38] <tgm4883> whoa
[16:38] <niklas> Just an idea
[16:38] <tgm4883> let's not volunteer other people for work ;)
[16:38] <Samy__> nacc: what can be done ?
[16:38] <niklas> ok :)
[16:38] <tgm4883> otherwise
[16:39] <Cyber_Akuma> ... maybe we should try the windows one at this rate XD
[16:39]  * tgm4883 assigns a bunch of launchpad bugs to niklas
[16:39] <niklas> what did you do to me tgm4883
[16:39]  * Cyber_Akuma assigns AndroUser to the Half Life 3 team
[16:39] <Cyber_Akuma> XD
[16:39] <niklas> lol
[16:39] <tgm4883> Cyber_Akuma: that's a possibility, but unsupported in this channel. You'd need to support that somewhere else (like PM)
[16:40] <AndroUser> tgm4883 paste.ubuntu.com/16868612
[16:40] <nacc> Samy__: does a `find /home/user/Qt5.6.0/5.6/gcc_64 -name Qt5Config.cmake -o -name qt5-config.cmake` produce any output?
[16:40] <Cyber_Akuma> what was that other one? lsblk or something like that?
[16:41] <tgm4883> Cyber_Akuma: lsblk will show the block id of the device
[16:41] <MonkeyDust> Cyber_Akuma  ls means list, blk means block device
[16:41] <tgm4883> Cyber_Akuma: wait, I'm thinking of blkid
[16:42] <Cyber_Akuma> i was told to run a command the ither day that showed a much more human readable output of mounted drives
[16:42] <Samy__> nacc: /home/user/Qt5.6.0/5.6/gcc_64/lib/cmake/Qt5/Qt5Config.cmake
[16:42] <Cyber_Akuma> when mount showed too much junk information
[16:42] <nacc> Samy__: ack, so it should have found it
[16:42] <c-pin> is there a guide on compiling ubuntu from source
[16:42] <Cyber_Akuma> it was lssomething....
[16:43] <OerHeks> !build
[16:43] <tgm4883> AndroUser: You need to lvremove first http://askubuntu.com/a/218732
[16:43] <AndroUser> tgm4883 anything useful in that paste?
[16:43] <c-pin> thx fam
[16:43] <tgm4883> AndroUser: yes, lots. See that link
[16:43] <nacc> Samy__: sorry, i was just thinking of obvious fixes, i don't know anything about cmake itself. Maybe someone else can help, or you can ask in a cmake channe (search with !alis)
[16:44] <Samy__> whats !alis
[16:44] <AndroUser> tgm4883 I see. Well Gparted gives me tje option to Deactivate that partition. Will that work as the command suggested in the link?
[16:44] <c-pin> OerHeks, this is for packages
[16:44] <c-pin> not for the uh... os
[16:44] <tgm4883> AndroUser: IDK, try it maybe?
[16:44] <nacc> !alis | Samy__
[16:44] <Mrokii> Hello. Does somebody know a writing-app for (K)Ubuntu that saves instantly, I mean, every keystroke, so that it isn't necessary to save manually?
[16:45] <OerHeks> c-pin, it applies to all the packages in ubuntu
[16:45] <c-pin> cool OerHeks
[16:45] <nacc> c-pin: what do you mean by os? do you mean the kernel?
[16:45] <AndroUser> tgm4883 did. Nothing special happened. Should I have noticed something? Should it dissappear?
[16:45] <c-pin> this is to make a uh... vanillla ubuntu package for the C2 cause the one hard kernel provided runs bad
[16:45] <AndroUser> Oh wait. I can delete it now
[16:45] <Samy__> nacc: but i suppose it should have worked :/
[16:45] <tgm4883> AndroUser: I would think the lock would disappear, but try deleting it again
[16:45] <c-pin> i guess thats what i mean
[16:46] <AndroUser> Yeah I can delete sdb5 now.
[16:46] <AndroUser> So delete sdb5 and then sdb1?
[16:46] <tgm4883> AndroUser: yes...
[16:47] <AndroUser> tgm4883 sdb2 too then? It became available for deleting now
[16:47] <tgm4883> AndroUser: What do you think you should do next?
[16:48] <AndroUser> tgm4883 frankly I have no idea. Im just worried I'll screw it up
[16:48] <tgm4883> AndroUser: you want to wipe the entire drive? Who cares if you screw it up?
[16:49] <niklas> It's not our fault
[16:49] <AndroUser> tgm4883 well it's all done now. So now try to install win7 again?
[16:49] <tgm4883> AndroUser: I mean, your requested end result is "no data on the drive", it's not like you could hit the wrong button and be like "Whoops, I accidently got the entire works of shakespear"
[16:49] <tgm4883> AndroUser: yes
[16:52] <niklas> now all of are quiet
[16:55] <OerHeks> niklas, that happens often after "now try to install win7 again"
[16:55] <niklas> yeah
[16:55] <AndroUser> tgm4883 well now I have an Unallocated Disk showing. Though it's not working to install on it.
[16:56] <tgm4883> AndroUser: errors?
[16:56] <Randomness> do i really need to tick third party software (mp3) when installing ubuntu or get them via sudo apt-get install ubuntu-restricted-extras? will i really have a bad time without it? youtube uses html5 now. i got no mp3, and if i want to rip some cd's i have, i could just use an open format.
[16:56] <tgm4883> I mean, now we're pretty far OT
[16:57] <tgm4883> Randomness: you can install it later if you find out you really need it
[16:57] <niklas> Randomness you don't have to tick this box in the installation window
[16:57] <AndroUser> tgm4883 "Setup was unable to create a new system partition or locate an existing system partition"
[16:57] <MonkeyDust> Randomness  don't install them and if you can do everything you want, you have your answer
[16:57] <tgm4883> AndroUser: that sounds like a question for ##windows
[16:57] <niklas> yup
[16:58] <AndroUser> Yepp it is. Thanks for your help tgm4883
[16:59] <Randomness> tgm4883, niklas, MonkeyDust : yeah, i figured, but what are the chances i will have to get them? guess this is just really a question which i have to answer myself, depending on my needs.
[16:59] <Randomness> any of you not having it installed?
[17:00] <niklas> I'm having it installed, cuz I need to play music, which is in a mp3 format
[17:01] <tgm4883> Randomness: I'm not sure why we're doing this exercise. You're the only one that can determine if you need it or not, and it's trivial to install it later. This conversation seems pointless to me, and it's support
[17:01] <tgm4883> isn't support*
[17:01] <A3308-Guest> is or isnt?
[17:02] <citrix> Hi all ...
[17:02] <Randomness> tgm4883: yeah, you're right. ill try without and install if required. thanks.
[17:02] <citrix> my hardrive had gone bad.. how much space do ubuntu takes .. can i make it bootable in pendrive...
[17:03] <nexii> I was wondering how I can access a samba shared folder from thunar, since when I try to access a folder, I get prompted to enter a username, domain, and password.  The server doesn't have a domain so I leave it blank but the "connect" button is greyed out unless I enter something in there.
[17:03] <niklas> did you enter a username and password
[17:04] <niklas> Try with WORKGROUP in Caps as a domain
[17:04] <MonkeyDust> citrix  start here https://wiki.ubuntu.com/LiveUsbPendrivePersistent
[17:05] <nexii> niklas: I tried WORKGROUP as well
[17:05] <niklas> okay
[17:05] <jatt> nexii: on the windows machine type:
[17:05] <jatt> echo %userdomain%
[17:05] <jatt> to get the domain.
[17:06] <citrix>  MonkeyDust actually i had removed my hdd .. and i only have a 8GB pendrive
[17:07] <Srp2416> Hi all
[17:07] <MonkeyDust> citrix  and a dvd?
[17:07] <syeekick> i've added rules to my iptables in ubuntu 16.04 and i dont know how to restart the iptables. "service iptables save && service iptables restart
[17:07] <syeekick> " i tried this but to no avail. Any ideas?
[17:07] <citrix> Yes i have a dvd ubuntu 15.10
[17:08] <citrix> MonkeyDust, is that sufficient
[17:08] <niklas> It's slower than a pendrive
[17:08] <citrix> MonkeyDust, i tried but it said that space is full..
[17:09] <citrix> MonkeyDust, I mean i tried to install in sdb from dvd but it said space full .. after some time
[17:11] <MonkeyDust> citrix  on the page i suggested, read 'Method 1', i guess it's what you can do ... never it myself, tho
[17:11] <MonkeyDust> never tried it*
[17:11] <nexii> jatt: the server's a linux machine as is the client that I'm trying to access files from.  My windows clients can access the files just fine, though.
[17:12] <MonkeyDust> citrix  if that's not it, i'm out of iedeas
[17:13] <A3308-Guest> ?
[17:14] <ron__> hello, I had installed ubuntu 16.04 but the hibernate don't work :x
[17:15] <ouroumov> Hello ron__. Have you run a full system update since you've completed the installation?
[17:15] <ron__> how I can find the problem ?
[17:16] <ron__> ouroumov, yes
[17:16] <dbz2k> is there a way to disable software updater notifications?
[17:17] <MonkeyDust> dbz2k  yes, in the system settings, software & updates
[17:17] <ouroumov> ron__, if you're ok with it you can try and install the package linux-firmware-nonfree and see if that helps
[17:17] <ron__> ok I try
[17:18] <ouroumov> ron__, as well as the linux-firmware package
[17:18] <brainwash> ron__: hibernate is disabled by default
[17:18] <dbz2k> MonkeyDust, do I just disable auto checking for update right?
[17:18] <MonkeyDust> dbz2k  'Notify me...', disable that
[17:19] <dbz2k> ok
[17:19] <phiphler> TF2 is really strange for me on 16.04 , I can launch and play the game no problems but sometimes I get freezelag which seems to affect the entire system as I can't alt-tab out. FOSS AMD drivers
[17:19] <Samy__> how to get GL devel stuff in ubuntu
[17:19] <phiphler> freezes usually last for 10-20 seconds
[17:20] <niklas> nexii have you tried smbclient
[17:20] <robotdevil1> kcfd
[17:20] <niklas> Or a other file manager
[17:24] <nexii> niklas: I have not. Only thunar so far
[17:24] <nexii> niklas: I'll try those
[17:25] <niklas> try pcmanfm
[17:25] <niklas> It works fine
[17:26] <MonkeyDust> nexii  try 'gigolo', to easily connect ... it's not a file manager, tho
[17:27] <sdexter> I'm running 14.04 and want to block access TO an ip on the machine from anywhere to port 53.  'ufw deny to <IP> port' doesn't seem to to do it
[17:27] <Samy__> hey how can i get mesa-devel package in ubuntu
[17:27] <Samy__> apt-get shows no package as such
[17:27] <MonkeyDust> !find mesa-devel
[17:28] <baizon> Samy__: https://launchpad.net/~oibaf/+archive/ubuntu/graphics-drivers
[17:28] <nacc> Samy__: you use `apt-cache search` or `apt search` <pgkname> and grep
[17:29] <nacc> Samy__: or in your case, not <pkgname> but 'mesa' (package substring)
[17:29] <Samy__> its a lot of stuff
[17:29] <ioria> !info libglu1-mesa-dev
[17:30] <MonkeyDust> !find mesa-dev | Samy__
[17:30] <Samy__> i have got this error that i want to solve https://paste.kde.org/pdjp7u8zi
[17:30] <MonkeyDust> ioria  was faster
[17:30] <Randomness> "Install third-party software for graphics and Wi-Fi hardware, Flash, MP3 and other media" is an option you get when installing Ubuntu 16.04 LTS. if i have wi-fi during install and don't tick this box is it safe to assume that the linux kernel within Ubuntu 16.04 LTS supports wi-fi with some open source code, and that there will be wi-fi once i am done installing? also, why would i want the propriatary graphic drivers if i don't 
[17:30] <ioria> ^_^
[17:31] <ioria> !!info libgl1-mesa-dev
[17:31] <ioria> !info libgl1-mesa-dev
[17:31] <nacc> Samy__: ... `apt-file search <filename>`
[17:31] <Samy__> MonkeyDust: should i install all of them?
[17:31] <deadmund> sdexter: I think that ufw deny to <IP> port refers to outgoing traffic on the target machine.  Not incoming.  I think you want sudo ufw block from any port 53
[17:31] <deadmund> sdexter: I think?
[17:31] <MonkeyDust> Samy__  if you are a developer, you should know the answer to that question, i reckon
[17:31] <ron__> ouroumov,  linux-firmware-nonfree is avaible in 16.04 ?
[17:31] <k1l_> Randomness: that depends heavily on the used hardware
[17:32] <MonkeyDust> Samy__  i mean, if you know what you are doing
[17:32] <Samy__> MonkeyDust: i am a beginner and i just switched to ubuntu in my previous distributions i didnt face these problems
[17:32] <MonkeyDust> !manual | Samy__
[17:32] <SebthreeBQM10HD> Randomness, if you don't have wireless by default,  get additioal drivers open fro the search and you may have a driver waiting for install there, but the installer optoin isn't really for that but more so for mp3 support and things like that
[17:32] <ron__> http://packages.ubuntu.com/search?lang=fr&keywords=linux-firmware-nonfree&searchon=names not 16.04 :x
[17:33] <nacc> Samy__: /usr/include/libdrm is from libdrm-dev
[17:33] <Samy__> right now i just want to solve this error https://paste.kde.org/pdjp7u8zi
[17:33] <MonkeyDust> Samy__  don't try to develop if you're a beginner, one step at a time
[17:33] <nacc> Samy__: but i see no GL/gl.h file
[17:33] <ouroumov> ron__, yes
[17:33] <Randomness> k1l_: but if i got wifi before installing wifi prop. driver, it works. don't see why it would offer prop. driver then. perhaps the prop. driver works better than the open source solution?
[17:34] <ouroumov> ron__, in a terminal: sudo apt install linux-firmware linux-firmware-nonfree
[17:34] <k1l_> Randomness: no.
[17:34] <Samy__> whats the problem with GL/gl.h file
[17:34] <SebthreeBQM10HD> Randomness, if you put the prop driver into the live session, no it won't just go into the install as well
[17:34] <Randomness> SebthreeBQM10HD: alright, well, i dont need mp3.
[17:34] <Zonca_95> ciao a tutti
[17:35] <Zonca_95> list!
[17:35] <MonkeyDust> Samy__  when/where do you encounter that error
[17:35] <ioria> Samy__, mesa-common-dev
[17:35] <ron__> ouroumov,   "linux- firmware- nonfree" not found
[17:35] <Samy__> on running cmake
[17:35] <k1l_> Randomness: the live system has some prop. drivers enabled for a better user experience. but to isntall that drivers you need to check that on install.
[17:35] <MonkeyDust> Samy__  and why are you running cmake
[17:36] <ouroumov> ron__, there is no spaces in the name of the package
[17:36] <Billyzekid> hello, I would like to install new flashplayer version
[17:36] <k1l_> Randomness: so if you wifi chip only works with prop. drivers it works on live usb but not on the install if you didnt want the prop drivers to be installed.
[17:36] <Billyzekid> what do I do with the tar.zp
[17:36] <Samy__> thanks ioria
[17:36] <ioria> Samy__,  np
[17:36] <k1l_> Billyzekid: you dont install it that way.
[17:36] <ron__> ouroumov, It is copy/paste   but ""linux-firmware-nonfree" not found
[17:37] <nacc> ron__: do you have multiverse enabled?
[17:37] <Billyzekid> k1l_: ok
[17:37] <k1l_> Randomness: that means: you will need to get the prop. driver for the wifi afterwards over ethernet or other ways.
[17:37] <ron__> nacc, deb http://fr.archive.ubuntu.com/ubuntu/ xenial universe   is enable
[17:37] <nacc> ron__: universe != multiverse
[17:37] <Randomness> k1l_: oh, alright, i was under the impression that everything on the ubuntu image was open software/non prop., and if the option was ticked it would get prop. drivers, flasgh, codecs from some place on the net. thanks for clarifying.
[17:38] <nacc> !multiverse | ron__
[17:38] <ouroumov> Oh right. ron__ as nacc said you have to enable multiverse in your software sources
[17:38] <Danielh90> How do I switch between screens?
[17:38] <Danielh90> threw putty?
[17:38] <nacc> ron__: and then run `apt update` to refresh, of course
[17:38] <k1l_> Billyzekid: there are 2 important things to know about flash: 1. adobe doesnt support linux like windows. 2. some webiste fake the wrong version warning to make you install viruses.
[17:38] <ron__> deb http://fr.archive.ubuntu.com/ubuntu/ xenial multiverse  was enabled
[17:39] <jaipalpc> hi
[17:39] <nacc> ron__: ouroumov: oh, you're looking fro linux-firmware-nonfree in 16.04? not pulibshed anymore
[17:39] <snow_richard> libGL error: unable to load driver: r600_dri.so
[17:39] <Randomness> k1l_: i don't have any spare ethernet cable here, so i guess ill just tick the option. :/ it's not too bad, it's just if i could survive without it i wouldn't tick it. i guess i could install without ticking it first and if i had no wifi, just reinstall and have the option ticked. i don't want flash though, so i guess ill have to manually remove that once installed. why is it still included in this option.
[17:40] <snow_richard> this is in android studio
[17:40] <Billyzekid> I I would like installing flashplayer, I don't see how to
[17:40] <ouroumov> nacc, seriously? But Ubuntu MATE has a one-click install of all that stuff in the LTS :o
[17:40] <nacc> ouroumov: ron__: LP: #1513589
[17:40] <ron__> nac yes i dont found
[17:41] <nacc> ouroumov: in 16.04?
[17:41] <ron__> it is the explication :D
[17:41] <ouroumov> nacc, yes
[17:41] <k1l_> Billyzekid: install flashplugin-installer
[17:41] <nacc> ouroumov: i'm just citing what's in the database and the publishing history
[17:41] <nacc> ron__: sounds like mate must be pacakging it separately somehow, then
[17:41] <Danielh90> How do I use screen ? and switch between them
[17:41] <snow_richard> i'm running ubuntu mate 16.04 and have this libgl error with radeon integraged graphics
[17:42] <Billyzekid> k1l_: ok thnx
[17:42] <nacc> ouroumov: ron__: you could easily setup a ppa, copy the wily package there and use it
[17:42] <nacc> ouroumov: ron__: but it's no longer provided in ubuntu proper, afaict
[17:43] <ron__> arf
[17:43] <k1l_> Billyzekid: dont use that .tar file. the package i mentioned should give you a working flashplugin
[17:43] <ron__> nacc, if I recompile the kernel ?
[17:44] <nacc> ron__: not sure, but that's not necessarily supported anyways, right -- you've gone outside the scope of a 'distribution', and so you might have to move those files around so they're seen, etc. I really don't know
[17:44] <Billyzekid> k1l_: but I dont see, I am lead directly through here from my browser
[17:46] <Billyzekid> k1l_: sudo update and sudo upgrade didn't work the new flashplayer version
[17:46] <k1l_> Billyzekid: that package works. did you install it? what website is telling you got a wrong version?
[17:46] <k1l_> did you restart the browser?
[17:47] <Billyzekid> can I test
[17:47] <ron__> nacc, I'll wait for the correction, thank you also for the quick answer :)
[17:49] <home> hey guys
[17:49] <home> I am on ubuntu server 15.04
[17:49] <home> how do I upgrade to 16.04?
[17:49] <nacc> !eolupgrade | home
[17:50] <OerHeks> 15.04 - 15.10 - 16.04 .. i would reinstall
[17:50] <nacc> home: but also what OerHeks said --^
[17:50] <home> so how do  Upgrade
[17:50] <home> it's hard to reinstall since I am not local
[17:50] <OerHeks> see the eolupgrade url
[17:50] <nacc> home: read the FAQ ubottu sent you a moment ago
[17:50] <home> it's far away from me
[17:51] <OerHeks> oh, remote upgrade.. good luck man
[17:51] <home> kkay
[17:52] <k1l_> home: "do-release-upgrade" should offer you the upgrade to 15.10. from there you need to upgrade again to 16.04
[17:53] <home> it doesnt work
[17:53] <home> gives error
[17:53] <k1l_> what error? (use paste.ubuntu.com for more lines)
[17:53] <OerHeks> home is this a rental VPN?
[17:59] <fishhead2567> pardon me, does anyone have experience with fglrx on kernel 4.4, or alternatively using two thunderbolt monitors with the xorg drivers for an ATI card? I seem to get black screen when I use the fglrx driver, and despite efforts cant seem to get the xorg driver to recognize two monitors
[18:00] <syeekick> i've added rules to my iptables in ubuntu 16.04 and i dont know how to restart the iptables. "service iptables save && service iptables restart
[18:00] <syeekick> " i tried this but to no avail. Any ideas?
[18:00] <syeekick> fishhead2567, have you tried the propiertary drivers?
[18:00] <nacc> syeekick: is 'save' a real parameter to the iptables service file?
[18:01] <syeekick> nacc i have no idea
[18:01] <nacc> syeekick: why are you running it then?
[18:01] <syeekick> oh lol
[18:01] <nacc> syeekick: and if it's not, that will error and wont' run restart
[18:01] <syeekick> because them firewall rules need to be set
[18:01] <matan> hello
[18:01] <syeekick> hmm
[18:01] <nacc> syeekick: what did you mean by you "added rules to my iptables"
[18:03] <syeekick> are you going to ask next which ports i tried to open :P
[18:03] <syeekick> i'm scared
[18:03] <matan> my question: i tryed to run rtv with the command "sudo python3 rtv" i got an error saying that the module '' is missing. any help?
[18:03] <nacc> syeekick: no, i'm asking what you meant ... did you run the `iptables` command with parameters?
[18:04] <syeekick> yeah
[18:04] <nacc> syeekick: why would you need to restart the service then?
[18:04] <nacc> syeekick: in any case, maybe read: https://help.ubuntu.com/community/IptablesHowTo
[18:04] <syeekick> -I INPUT -p udp --dport **** -j ACCEPT
[18:04] <syeekick> several different ones
[18:05] <matan> any help with my question guys?
[18:05] <brainwash> matan: how did you install rtv? and why do you run it with sudo?
[18:05] <nacc> matan: what is rtv? not an ubuntu package, afaict?
[18:06] <matan> i installed it originally with pip3, after trying with git. i used sudo cause thats the way i did it before
[18:06] <k1l_> matan: see what depencies rtv got and if you can satisfy them with packages on ubuntu
[18:08] <OerHeks> why does python3 need sudo to run something?
[18:08] <brainwash> matan: what happens if you run "rtv"?
[18:08] <OerHeks> matan, see https://pypi.python.org/pypi/rtv/1.6.1
[18:08] <OerHeks> brainwash +1
[18:08] <k1l_> and i wonder what that mess from pip install and git install will do anyway.
[18:10] <matan> ty
[18:10] <Guest10122> hi
[18:13] <matan> btw: there seems to be somthign related to the _main_
[18:13] <kovacs> Hi guys
[18:13] <Guest10122> am from saudi arabia
[18:14] <Guest10122> and you
[18:15] <Billyzekid> hello, I have xf86 driver, can someone lead me
[18:15] <Billyzekid> do I make install?
[18:16] <kovacs> I have a problem when I use the monitor with my linux notebook, the quality its bad and its seems like its not calibrated
[18:16] <kovacs> but only happends with linux
[18:16] <gmh> Is there any way to make ubuntu recognize "no_NO.UTF-8" as "nb_NO.UTF-8". One ised by os x and one is used by ubuntu. The ubtuntu one is the correct.
[18:16] <gmh> Tried adding it in /etc/locale.alias but didn't work.
[18:17] <Randomness> what exactly does "Erase disk and install Ubuntu" during installation do? i only have one drive, an ssd. i assume the drive is formated, and it partitions the disk into either 3 partitions (/, /home, /swap) or 2 (/, /swap), is this correct? if so, how large will the swap be with 128gb ssd and 4gb ram? (i can't find any suitable answer via google, maybe my search terms are off.)
[18:17] <SebthreeBQM10HD> Randomness, no by default it will put everything into /
[18:17] <SebthreeBQM10HD> Randomness, also that option would erase anything on the disk
[18:17] <Randomness> SebthreeBQM10HD: so default install makes no swap partition?
[18:17] <gmh> is used *
[18:17] <Randomness> SebthreeBQM10HD: erasing the complete disk is no problem. :)
[18:17] <MonkeyDust> Randomness  select 'something else', if you want a separate /home partition
[18:18] <SebthreeBQM10HD> Randomness, yes it makes a  swap pariton as well, it's / and swap
[18:18] <SebthreeBQM10HD> Randomness, I like making seperate / home on installs of  the first distro now :)
[18:18] <k1l_> Randomness: it will clean the disk and will do / and swap, with swap = ramsize, iirc
[18:18] <Randomness> SebthreeBQM10HD: alright, any idea how much it allocates to swap with 128gb ssd, 4gb ram?
[18:18] <kovacs> Well u can separate /home before the installation
[18:18] <Randomness> k1l_: thanks!
[18:19] <BluesKaj> Randomness, the installer /partitioner will give you the option of setting up a swap then you size it
[18:19] <solomon> guys i need help
[18:19] <SebthreeBQM10HD> Randomness, it would probably do 8GB SWAP by default, which debabtly is to big really with 4GB RAM, its also debable if you really need swap with even 1GB RAM, but I thik hibernation uses swap actsualy so
[18:19] <SebthreeBQM10HD> solomon with what?
[18:19] <Randomness> BluesKaj: that only happens if i select "Something else", right?
[18:19] <Moe> Hi Guys
[18:20] <SebthreeBQM10HD> Randomness, default optoins are a bit uh,  seems you  know partitning enough youreslf, so may as well set it up yourself then
[18:20] <prelude2004c> hey guys.. still looking for some help.. ubuntu is messed up man :(
[18:20] <SebthreeBQM10HD> prelude2004c, hows that?
[18:20] <solomon> i just installed backbox but when i type su it ask for password but when i type my password it says authentication failure
[18:20] <solomon> i dont knw why
[18:20] <Guest71640> Does anyone know how I can connect to a fortigate vpn server over ipsec in ubuntu?
[18:20] <prelude2004c> brand new install today of version 16... installed server .. installed Xvfb ... rand that .. installed the nvidia driver .run file... " GLX failed again "
[18:20] <BluesKaj> Randomness, yes I think so. it's manual partitioning which I always use, never even tried the auto since I don't trust it :-)
[18:20] <prelude2004c> this has serious issues with GLX
[18:20] <SebthreeBQM10HD> solomon how do you try and open black box
[18:21] <prelude2004c> root@ubuntu:~# glxinfo
[18:21] <prelude2004c> name of display: :1
[18:21] <prelude2004c> Xlib:  extension "GLX" missing on display ":1".
[18:21] <Randomness> SebthreeBQM10HD: i don't really know what happens, so if i can go with the defaults ill probably do that. ^^
[18:21] <Guest71640> any ipsec vpn client for ubuntu?
[18:21] <MonkeyDust> !backbox | solomon
[18:21] <solomon> login with my the same password
[18:21] <SebthreeBQM10HD> Randomness, BluesKaj indeed the auto partitining isn't that great for those of us who are more experienced,  we are better of custom partitining it seems :)
[18:21] <SebthreeBQM10HD> more control etc
[18:21] <Randomness> BluesKaj: alright, sounds reasonable.
[18:22] <SebthreeBQM10HD> Randomness, BluesKaj the custom partitining in the installer is a bit limited as well, so I genrally like setting up in gparted first and then finishing things off in custom  installer
[18:22] <Randomness> might do the partitioning myself then, and since im using ssd, i might just allocate 2 gb for swap.
[18:22] <SebthreeBQM10HD> Randomness, not sure how much swap is really needed now  but yeah that would probably be ok
[18:22] <Randomness> another quick question, should i really bother with making a partition for /home?
[18:22] <k1l_> Randomness: if you want to use hibernation you need swap=ram
[18:23] <BluesKaj> SebthreeBQM10HD, yes i always prepartition with gparted
[18:23] <MonkeyDust> Randomness  it's easy if you want to re/install ubuntu
[18:23] <SebthreeBQM10HD> k11 how much  SWAP is needed for that when got 8GB RAM In his case?
[18:23] <SebthreeBQM10HD> Randomness, it's nice to have sperate /home for data, if wanting to re install Ubuntu or even putting on other distros as well :)
[18:23] <BluesKaj> Randomness, /home is very handy to have
[18:24] <Randomness> k1l_: ill probably not hibernation, but from what i gathered from this channel today and online i should make a swap partition on an ssd even if i won't hibernate and if i will actively try to remain under 4gb ram which i have.
[18:25] <maxb>  /home as a separate partition is a tradeoff. It's really helpful if you want to re-install the OS whilst preserving your user data, BUT it means you need to commit to a division of space between /home and the rest up front
[18:25] <Randomness> MonkeyDust: yeah, true. but ill probably make a backup of everything in /home on some external hdd anyways, but i guess having it as a separate partiton will go faster. i dont intend to test a lot of distros or upgrade ubuntu frequently. ill probably just jump from lts to lts.
[18:25] <Randomness> SebthreeBQM10HD: yeah, won't skip distros often though.
[18:25] <MonkeyDust> Randomness  yes, i have both /home and a backup
[18:25] <Randomness> BluesKaj: alright.
[18:26] <SebthreeBQM10HD> Randomness, skip distros?
[18:26] <Randomness> well, seems you all are for seperate partition for /home, so ill do that.
[18:26] <Randomness> MonkeyDust: sounds good.
[18:26] <SebthreeBQM10HD> Randomness, doing LTS to LTS may get a bit boring, since there are osme intereting changes on the verge of happening now that the current LTS is already out.
[18:26] <Randomness> SebthreeBQM10HD: i meant change distro.
[18:27] <Linnak> Hi, Is it possible to install Atheros wifi driver from here? https://packages.debian.org/jessie/all/firmware-atheros/download
[18:27] <Linnak> Or how can I do that there is not in Ubuntus repository
[18:27] <SebthreeBQM10HD> Randomness, altough for something I am thinking of  may not really need 16.10 anyway since there should be a ppa for 16.04 anyway I guess :d
[18:29] <Randomness> SebthreeBQM10HD: i'm a boring person. ^^ well, i might test distros, but i got a spare laptop which i might use for that. but the colelctive conscious seems to have a separate partiton for /home, so ill probably do it.
[18:29] <Randomness> thanks for the help people! appreciate it!
[18:35] <user2635> how do I check for duplicate packages
[18:35] <user2635> I installed Ubuntu Mate on top of ubuntu at one point
[18:36] <user2635> and then got rid of it
[18:36] <Lovkesh> I am getting a problem with playing videos in Ubuntu....i get a line in between the frames
[18:36] <k1l_> user2635: your packagemanager shoudl do that.
[18:36] <user2635> but when I now open a file to view all programs
[18:36] <tgm4883> user2635: how did you install it,
[18:36] <user2635> I see that there are double entries
[18:36] <Lovkesh> Also cpu usage gets very high
[18:37] <user2635> sorry my bad
[18:37] <user2635> not Mate
[18:37] <Lovkesh> Is this due to fact that cpu gets used instead of gpu
[18:37] <user2635> I installed Xubuntu
[18:37] <tgm4883> user2635: how did you install it over ubuntu, and can you post a screenshot
[18:37] <Lovkesh> Anyone?
[18:38] <user2635> tgm4883, I followed this https://sites.google.com/site/easylinuxtipsproject/alternative
[18:38] <user2635> hold on, let me screenshot
[18:39] <kovacs> Lovkesh, what videocard do you have?
[18:40] <Lovkesh> I have intel HD 5500 and amd radeon r5
[18:41] <prelude2004c> hey guys.. still here asking for help... nothing I do seems to work :(
[18:41] <prelude2004c> even a fresh install doesn't work ....
[18:41] <user2635> tgm4883, here you go http://imgur.com/OQKy85y
[18:41] <user2635> tgm4883, thank you
[18:42] <Lovkesh> I face same problem while using kali but on windows videos play good with 2-3% cpu usage
[18:43] <tgm4883> user2635: hmm, ok. You went through that whole guide?
[18:43] <MonkeyDust> Lovkesh  what's the output of   cat /etc/issue
[18:44] <user2635> tgm4883, i actually skipped step 3
[18:44] <user2635> tgm4883, because i wanted to keep unity in case (which I did end up going back to)
[18:44] <k1l_> Lovkesh: for issues with kali better ask the kali support since its not even based on ubuntu
[18:44] <Lovkesh> Kali GNU/Linux 2.0 \n \l
[18:45] <user2635> tgm4883, let me know when you don't need the pic and i'll delete it
[18:45] <tgm4883> user2635: ok, so just to be clear. You are seeing duplicate items after following a guide to switch to Xubuntu from Ubuntu and skipping the step explicitly designed to remove the duplicate items. I'm not sure I'm following what your question is
[18:45] <Lovkesh> O sorry i was using kali
[18:46] <OerHeks> adding a desktop is usually no problem, removing one can give vary results: clean with autoclean, and run bleachbit for all bits and pieces
[18:47] <syeekick> nacc, i can't do it im still scared
[18:47] <user2635> tgm4883, I don't understand why there are duplicates in the first place
[18:47] <tgm4883> user2635: wait, is that the "open with" dialog?
[18:47] <user2635> tgm4883, plus, i'm new to linux
[18:47] <user2635> tgm4883, yes open with
[18:47] <tgm4883> hmm, I think that's a bug
[18:47] <user2635> tgm4883, i assume linux is clever enough not to have duplicates
[18:48] <user2635> tgm4883, ah ok
[18:48] <nacc> syeekick: scared of what? what are you talking about
[18:48] <OerHeks> cache can have duplicates
[18:48] <kovacs> one question guys is it difficult to switch from unity to gnome on las ubuntu version?
[18:48] <tgm4883> OerHeks: IMO, the "open with" dialog probably shouldn't list "gedit" 3 times
[18:49] <MonkeyDust> kovacs  unity is a compiz layer for gnome ... i guess you mean gnome-shell ... install it, logout, switch, logon
[18:49] <root____1> helo
[18:50] <root____1> what does it mean when i get an (numner here+)          stopped
[18:50] <user2635> tgm4883, other things that aren't in the screenshot, ImageMagick shown twice, same for Rhythmbox
[18:50] <Bashing-om> root____1: Not a good idea to run your IRC client as 'root' .
[18:50] <root____1> when i press enter
[18:50] <tgm4883> user2635: Yea I know
[18:51] <root____1> how do i change that?t
[18:51] <OerHeks> tgm4883, true, but to be sure i would suggest: clean with autoclean, and run bleachbit for all bits and pieces
[18:51] <tgm4883> user2635: I've got the same on my 16.04 desktop. I've not bothered to hunt it down
[18:51] <user2635> tgm4883, ohhh i see
[18:51] <kovacs> MonkeyDust, i mean gnome GUI, change desktop enviroment, im new in linux soz XD
[18:51] <user2635> tgm4883, I think thats the problem, if we don't report it it won't get fixed... I should probably report it
[18:51] <tgm4883> user2635: yea go ahead and report it
[18:51] <user2635> tgm4883, shall i delete the imgur link now?
[18:52] <tgm4883> user2635: sure
[18:52] <user2635> tgm4883, actually i need it to report
[18:52] <tgm4883> ok
[18:52] <MonkeyDust> kovacs  i just explained how to do it
[18:52] <tgm4883> user2635: you can also upload the image as an attachment in the bug rport
[18:52] <user2635> tgm4883, actually haven't done it before, i'll work it out..
[18:53] <MonkeyDust> kovacs  if you refer to gnome2, you can install MATE desktop environment
[18:54] <yosefh> hi
[18:54] <kovacs> MonkeyDust, Is gnome2 the lates version?
[18:55] <yosefh> My computer keeps freezing every 5 minutes Can anyone help me with my issue?
[18:55] <yosefh> Its a new install
[18:55] <MonkeyDust> kovacs  no, gnome3, now called 'gnome shell'
[18:55] <user2635> tgm4883, https://answers.launchpad.net/ubuntu/+source/nautilus/+question/61397
[18:55] <user2635> tgm4883, that will solve it for you
[18:55] <kovacs> MonkeyDust, ahhhh ok o ty man!!
[18:55] <yosefh> I keep asking for help but nobody has been able to solve it yet
[18:56] <MonkeyDust> kovacs  it can be confusing for a beginner, i agree
[18:56] <tgm4883> user2635: good find, I'd still file a bug. Probably shouldn't be happening and shouldn't need manual cleanup
[18:56] <yosefh> basically I run iotop and it appears that jbd2 is taking up 99% io periodically
[18:57] <yosefh> I cant discover why
[18:57] <yosefh> but the result is my computer completely freezes every 5 minutes for about 1 -2 minutes
[18:57] <MonkeyDust> kovacs  keep it in the channel
[18:57] <yosefh> sometimes I get 10 minutes of work in before it freezes though
[18:57] <yosefh> Theres no point reinstalling because Its a new install
[18:58] <yosefh> So all i can do is work like this until somebody helps me solve it
[18:58] <user2635> tgm4883, ok i'll try
[19:00] <tgm4883> yosefh: ok, a few things that might help you get support. 1) Don't use enter as punctuation. You can state your issue in one or two posts rather than 10 that you just made. 2) State what you've tried already 3) State what hardware you have (since full system lockups are rare, this might be a hardware issue. Especially on a fresh install)
[19:00] <syeekick> im sacred about applying the iptable rules
[19:00] <Randomness> sorry, yet again a rookie question. got a new laptop on the way here. was going to install ubuntu on it immediately, but should i be getting manufacturer updates before hand? most drivers will be wiped when i install ubuntu, but there might be a few bios/uefi/firmware updates. ( http://h20564.www2.hp.com/hpsc/swd/public/readIndex?sp4ts.oid=7834508&swLangOid=8&swEnvOid=4059 ) im guessing i should get these updates. what happens if
[19:00] <k1l_> yosefh: anything in syslog?
[19:00] <Randomness> is installed?
[19:01] <yosefh> tgm4883, Sorry man. Well nobody has actually given any solutions. Its mostly just troubleshooting and people throwing their hands up and saying they don't know
[19:02] <yosefh> tgm4883, all I can say is that I fscked all my discs and their were no errors. SMART says the disk is in good enough condition
[19:02] <root____1> what is error code 1
[19:03] <OerHeks> error code 1 .. that happens when you use irc as root ?
[19:03] <k1l_> Randomness: yes, worth a try. sometimes they fix uefi issues  and get better fan control.
[19:04] <tgm4883> yosefh: probably worth noting that k1l_ asked you a question
[19:04] <user2635> tgm4883, in case you want to subscribe
[19:04] <user2635> https://bugs.launchpad.net/ubuntu/+source/nautilus/+bug/1587614
[19:04] <user2635> or anything I need to add
[19:04] <yosefh> tgm4883, I was reading my syslog
[19:05] <tgm4883> yosefh: it's better to just pastebin it
[19:06] <Randomness> k1l_: alright, guess i will do that then.
[19:06] <niklas__> hey there
[19:07] <root____1> how do i change nickname from root?
[19:07] <user2635> anyone use KeePass? I don't know if this is the right place to ask this
[19:07] <k1l_> root____1: you dont run all programs as root. ubuntu is set up to not be run this way.
[19:08] <root____1> or not run this as root?
[19:08] <yosefh> k1l_, http://paste.ubuntu.com/16873438/
[19:09] <yosefh> tgm4883, thanks for the suggestion
[19:09] <root____1> this anwert is kinda confusing
[19:09] <root____1> answer
[19:09] <k1l_> root____1: what ubuntu do you use exactly?
[19:09] <root____1> 1.4
[19:09] <k1l_> root____1: ok. that is no ubuntu.
[19:10] <root____1> lol what?
[19:10] <root____1> oh sorry
[19:10] <root____1> xD
[19:11] <root____1> 14.2\
[19:11] <root____1> 14.4 sorrt
[19:11] <root____1> sorry
[19:11] <root____1> lts :P
[19:11] <k1l_> root____1: then stop using programs with sudo/root that dont need root permissions.
[19:11] <EriC^^> it's still wrong actually
[19:11] <EriC^^> 14.04 :P
[19:12] <root____1> ok
[19:12] <yosefh> k1l_, syslog with: grep error: http://paste.ubuntu.com/16873506/ , grep WARNING: http://paste.ubuntu.com/16873517/
[19:13] <root____1> also... i get an error of not enough disk space when i have 20G and i am trying to install transmission
[19:13] <root____1> akso occures with error code one if it matters
[19:14] <k1l_> yosefh: you cloned this install from another hdd?
[19:14] <root____1> nope
[19:14] <yosefh> k1l_, no, i upgraded from 15.10 i think
[19:14] <root____1> did sudo apt-get install transmission
[19:14] <yosefh> k1l_,  i installed with live cd
[19:15] <k1l_> root____1: first stop using programs as root that dont need root. are you running this program as root? the whole desktoP?
[19:15] <root____1> i dont think so....
[19:15] <yosefh> root__1 if you are running out of disc space you can try to run sudo apt-get clean
[19:15] <root____1> i ahve 20g available
[19:16] <BluesKaj> root____1, in / ?
[19:16] <root____1> i also got a message that boot directory runing out of disj space
[19:16] <root____1> in cinputer settings xD
[19:16] <yosefh> root__1 each partition has its own amount of space assuming you have multiple partitions
[19:16] <root____1> good point
[19:17] <Gallomimia> boot partition is usually a lot smaller
[19:17] <Gallomimia> only room for maybe 5-6 kernels
[19:17] <MonkeyDust> root____1  pastebin the out of    lsblk -f ... http://paste.ubuntu.com/
[19:17] <Gallomimia> and all their fixins. apt autoremove to clear out the old
[19:18] <root____1> but i deleted a 2g worth of videos and its still giving me the same error
[19:18] <MonkeyDust> output*
[19:18] <yosefh> root____1, your packages are stored in /var and binaries usually in /usr/bin
[19:18] <root____1> same partition
[19:18] <k1l_> yosefh: try this "pkill gvfsd-metadata; rm -rf .local/share/gvfs-metadata"
[19:20] <user2635> For the KeePass users, I'm coming from Windows and I used to use the easy CTRL-ALT-K to unlock workspace. How do I turn this on for linux?
[19:20] <yosefh> k1l_, I'm going to stress test my system to see if it worked. Know any quick ways to do that?
[19:21] <tgm4883> root____1: can you pastebin the output of 'df'
[19:21] <Gallomimia> yosefh: what are you stressing? cpu?
[19:21] <reisio> user2635: what's ctrl+alt+k do exactly, on Windows?
[19:22] <user2635> reisio, unlock KeePass
[19:22] <user2635> KeePass has 2 states, locked (in systray) and unlocked
[19:22] <Gallomimia> user2635: keep in mind, the specific desktop environment you're using will determine these features
[19:22] <yosefh> Gallomimia, disc io
[19:22] <user2635> I'm using Unity
[19:22] <Gallomimia> dd to or from a file, into /dev/null or from /dev/zero
[19:22] <user2635> Alternatively, you may suggest your own password manager solutions on linux
[19:22] <root____1> how do i paste into terminal? i cant right click
[19:23] <Gallomimia> shift ctrl v
[19:23] <Gallomimia> or middle mouse
[19:23] <yosefh> root__1 or right click paste
[19:23] <yosefh> depends on your terminal
[19:23] <Gallomimia> he said he can't right click
[19:23] <yosefh> oh sorry
[19:23] <k1l_> root____1: are you really using ubuntu?
[19:23] <reisio> user2635: is it a screen locker?
[19:24] <root____1> no
[19:24] <root____1> yes
[19:24] <user2635> reisio, do you know what KeePass is? It's a password manager, basically it locks the program, not the screen (unless by screen, you mean window)
[19:24] <reisio> right, I thought it was not a screen locker
[19:24] <root____1> i do use ubunti
[19:24] <k1l_> root____1: please run "lsb_release -d | nc termbin.com 9999" and show the url here
[19:25] <tgm4883> root____1: then pastebin the output of that command
[19:25] <root____1> swift ctrl v not working
[19:25] <tgm4883> root____1: so type it in?
[19:25] <root____1> sad face
[19:26] <home> root@ubuntu-server:/etc/apt# sudo do-release-upgrade
[19:26] <home> Checking for a new Ubuntu release
[19:26] <home> No new release found
[19:26] <home> ^ how to fix that
[19:26] <home> want to upgrade from 15.04 to 16.0
[19:26] <tgm4883> home: wait until July?
[19:26] <home> 16.04
[19:26] <tgm4883> oh
[19:26] <tgm4883> !eol | home
[19:26] <BluesKaj> home, ypu
[19:26] <tgm4883> home: you'll need to upgrade to 15.10 first
[19:26] <k1l_> home: tail -n 1 /etc/update-manager/release-upgrades
[19:26] <home> how to upgrade to 15.10
[19:26] <BluesKaj> ll need to to get an iso and do a clean install
[19:26] <k1l_> home: what is the output
[19:27] <home> Prompt=lts
[19:27] <reisio> user2635: one really dumb way would be to use xdotool
[19:27] <home> k1l_, thats the output
[19:27] <ioria> normal
[19:27] <k1l_> home: change that to "normal"
[19:27] <reisio> user2635: you using keepassx?
[19:27] <user2635> xdotool, sorry care to explain what that package does?
[19:27] <user2635> reisio, KeePass 2
[19:27] <tgm4883> k1l_: wait, why would he have prompt=lts if he was on 15.04?
[19:27] <reisio> xdotool is kinda like autohotkey
[19:27]  * tgm4883 thinks he's on 14.04
[19:27] <k1l_> home: sudo nano /etc/update-manager/release-upgrades     . then change that, then press ctrl+o for saving and ctrl+x for leaving
[19:28] <home> k1l_, Okay command is working now
[19:28] <root____1> can u type the command again?
[19:28] <k1l_> tgm4883: maybe some hoster setup
[19:28] <ioria> tgm4883, ^
[19:28] <home> updating
[19:28] <home> here goes
[19:28] <Gallomimia> !info keepassx
[19:28] <tgm4883> ah
[19:28] <reisio> user2635: so you're using it to lock a workspace? Is that useful in addition to GNOME/Unity's own locking?
[19:28] <root____1> nvm
[19:28] <Gallomimia> he's not using it to lock a workspace, he's using it to lock up the passwords
[19:29] <Gallomimia> and user2635, it's cross platform. you can install it for linux np
[19:29] <reisio> you want to "lock up the passwords" with nothing but a keyboard shortcut?
[19:29] <reisio> sorry I don't get it :p
[19:29] <Gallomimia> yes
[19:29] <user2635> reisio, lol.. basically yes!
[19:29] <Gallomimia> unlocking obv takes a password
[19:30] <reisio> 'kay...
[19:30] <user2635> maybe I should use keepassx
[19:30] <reisio> docs for win32 apps are so awful
[19:30] <root____1> termbon.com/mwdq
[19:30] <user2635> basically i'm transitioning to linux
[19:30] <Gallomimia> why wouldn't it make sense? locking the screen takes only a key combo
[19:30] <user2635> whatever password manager works on ubuntu works for me
[19:30] <user2635> I just need your advice
[19:30] <Gallomimia> user2635: from that !info snippet, it's my understanding that it's the zact same program
[19:31] <user2635> thats how I used to work
[19:31] <reisio> it just seems pointless
[19:31] <k1l_> root____1: "df -h | nc termbin.com 9999"
[19:31] <reisio> if someone is already logged in as you, all they need is a key combo
[19:31] <Gallomimia> NO
[19:31] <reisio> and if they aren't, you're hitting a key combo for no particular reason
[19:31] <k1l_> root____1: and you really should stop using irssi with sudo
[19:31] <root____1> fine i will relog
[19:31] <user2635> Gallomimia, Keepass 2 has more features
[19:31] <user2635> reisio, i guess...
[19:31] <tgm4883> reisio: +1
[19:31] <Gallomimia> oh, well, maybe there's something else
[19:31] <Gallomimia> !info keepass2
[19:32] <Gallomimia> there
[19:32] <user2635> forget it.. I guess for now I can just 'favorite' Keepass on the unity bar
[19:32] <user2635> and use super + (whatever number keepass is)
[19:32] <Gallomimia> you don't like that there's a keepass2 package also?
[19:33] <user2635> Gallomimia, i have no problem with that. thats what i'm using now :)
[19:33] <Gallomimia> no shortcuts?
[19:33] <Gallomimia> not the same feature set as keepass2 for win?
[19:33] <user2635> Gallomimia, i've solved it for now.. i basically needed a shortcut to open a particular program i guess
[19:34] <Gallomimia> cause that's suspicious... says its open source and cross platform
[19:34] <reisio> user2635: does it not have its own shortcut manager in its own prefs?
[19:34] <user2635> Gallomimia, like you said it depends on the DE
[19:34] <tgm4883> reisio: actually, I bet that key combo just brings up keypass rather than unlocks it
[19:34] <user2635> tgm4883, I think you're right
[19:34] <Gallomimia> well, it's not a feature of the DE, it's a feature of that program
[19:34] <reisio> yeah that sounds totally pointless :p
[19:35] <user2635> in windows it puts it in the background and 'locks' the program
[19:35] <reisio> what do you do then, exactly?
[19:35] <reisio> once it's up?
[19:35] <user2635> enter the master pass again
[19:35] <user2635> to unlock the db
[19:35] <user2635> but it means I don't have to actually open the program from scratch
[19:35] <user2635> just as you would an email client
[19:35] <user2635> (except in email clients you normally save the password)
[19:35] <reisio> keepass --unlock-all ?
[19:35] <tgm4883> "To quickly switch back from an application to KeePass, you can use the global hot key that restores the KeePass main window."
[19:36] <user2635> yeah I confused all of you sorry
[19:36] <reisio> my guess is that you're using a password manager because your passwords are hard to remember
[19:36] <reisio> which probably also means they're not great passwords (entropy-ly speaking)
[19:36] <user2635> reisio, well not only that
[19:36] <reisio> you should probably try and migrate to algorithmic passwords, and lose the pw manager
[19:36] <user2635> I don't even know what entropy means
[19:36] <reisio> user2635: nobody does :p
[19:36] <user2635> is there a bot in irc to define words
[19:36] <user2635> .define entropy
[19:37] <reisio> probably, but wiktionary.org is betta
[19:37] <reisio> like the fish
[19:37] <tgm4883> reisio: wait, hard to remember passwords are bad?
[19:37] <user2635> please educate me if you know better
[19:37] <Ben64> https://xkcd.com/936/
[19:37] <user2635> I'm always to looking to learn
[19:37] <user2635> Ben64 I've seen that before
[19:37] <reisio> tgm4883: since they're usually also short, yes
[19:38] <Ben64> user2635: extremely relevant
[19:38] <reisio> people think short and gibberish is better than long and easy-to-remember
[19:38] <user2635> but that doesn't solve the problem of having to remembering passwords still!
[19:38] <Ben64> it does, look at the last panel!
[19:38] <reisio> but to a computer, a character is a character is a character
[19:38] <user2635> Ben64 for over 30 websites?
[19:38] <tgm4883> reisio: well, keepass generates passwords which don't need to be short
[19:38] <aswe323> yo
[19:38] <reisio> user2635: it doesn't, but you can make an algorithm in your head
[19:39] <reisio> name of site/password purpose -> + your middle name + favorite animal + random easily remembered gibberish you actually will remember
[19:39] <user2635> lets be real here guys, does anyone here do this already, and if so, is it easy for you?
[19:39] <reisio> I do it, it's so easy
[19:39] <Ben64> reddit = red = ketchup + random words
[19:39] <user2635> if so, please teach me how
[19:39] <k1l_> aswe323: you are still running irssi as root :/
[19:39] <reisio> it's just a simple formula I store in my head
[19:39] <yosefh> Gallomimia, Thanks dd did the trick for testing io.
[19:39] <aswe323> yes but my nick is diffrent
[19:39] <aswe323> xD
[19:39] <reisio> aswe323: yes it is
[19:40] <aswe323> sorry i dont have any outer users on this mechime
[19:40] <aswe323> and this is the onlt user
[19:40] <yosefh> k1l, "pkill gvfsd-metadata; rm -rf .local/share/gvfs-metadata" might have done something but im still getting spikes
[19:40] <Ben64> aswe323: you should add yourself a user
[19:40] <aswe323> my terminal starts as $
[19:40] <reisio> cbf to keep passwords in a db/list
[19:40] <tgm4883> Meh, I'll agree that longer passwords are better than shorter passwords. But we'll have to disagree that BatteryHorseStapleTrombone is a better password than xOXtMWHnCD0G9iUJYNuH2hG0bjR7ijfAfhPPdWE0pZDc4fXcWewMkUEpdNG0
[19:40] <k1l_> aswe323: that is not a standard ubuntu install then.
[19:41] <user2635> tgm4883, +1
[19:41] <Gallomimia> perhaps you've started in single user mode?
[19:41] <aswe323> ok knwo what.. i am gona deal with this tomarror...
[19:41] <yosefh> k1l_, if it ihelps understand the issue, the spikes get worse the longer I use the computer
[19:41] <aswe323> now its a shower movie and sleep...
[19:41] <Gallomimia> tho, it usually gives you a # terminal prompt
[19:41] <user2635> I don't understand how shorter passwords are better
[19:41] <user2635> shorter passwords are still prone to dictionary attacks
[19:41] <aswe323> byby
[19:41] <Ben64> yosefh: run atop and see whats going on
[19:43] <reisio> you want a password as long as possible /that is still *easily, easily* remembered/
[19:43] <tgm4883> user2635: technically, a shorter password is not better. But there are instances when it's better to have a password one can remember
[19:43] <reisio> which is quite easy to accomplish with a simple formula
[19:43] <reisio> even though so many sites still enforce awful passwords :/
[19:43] <Ben64> yep
[19:43] <reisio> there are sites that are only just adopting terrible passwords in the past year or two
[19:43]  * reisio shakes head
[19:43] <Ben64> and have short limits on length for some reason
[19:43] <reisio> gonna be a decade before they get around to sanity
[19:44] <user2635> I really have no idea what to do now
[19:44] <Ben64> 16 characters max or something dumb like that
[19:44] <user2635> I'm still going to depend on keepass because i'm so lazy
[19:44] <reisio> user2635: just keep it in mind; do it how you've been doing it for now
[19:44] <reisio> that's very sane
[19:44] <yosefh> Ben64 CPU or Memory is almost never used. Its just the io being eaten. but i cant pin point a process via iotop
[19:44] <tgm4883> Ben64: not sure if it's true, but I read somewhere that length limits usually mean your password is stored in plaintext
[19:44] <user2635> thanks guys
[19:44] <Randomness> not that it matters but https://help.ubuntu.com/community/Installation/FromUSBStick#Ubuntu.27s_official_recommendation says "Ubuntu recommends Pendrivelinux 2016-04-11", but if you click the link it recommends Rufus.
[19:45] <tgm4883> Ben64: I mean, it could just be the input field, but that seems easier to fix
[19:45] <k1l_> well, the longest passwords are useless if the are written on note-its or circumvented because they are hard to remember. that is why we have security breaches all the time.
[19:45] <user2635> how about backing up? have you guys used the default deja dup on ubuntu to backup before? tgm4883 reisio Ben64
[19:45] <yosefh> tgm4883, that would make sense, as a hash is a fixed length
[19:45] <Ben64> user2635: i haven't
[19:46] <tgm4883> user2635:  nope
[19:46] <tgm4883> k1l_: true, which is why you use a password manager
[19:46] <k1l_> yep
[19:48] <yosefh> though to be fair, a password length limit could be for practical reasons or to prevent abuse by sending huge strings
[19:48] <user2635> What do you guys use to backup your system? (hopefully you do backup!)
[19:49] <pauljw> user2635, i use deja-dup and it works just fine.
[19:49] <k1l_> user2635: rsync selected folders to a external hdd in a cronjob. used dejadub and that worked too.
[19:49] <user2635> pauljw, good to know! i'm doing my first back
[19:49] <OerHeks> i use my mouse to backup
[19:49] <Ben64> i use rsync, external drivers, offsite backup to my server as well
[19:50] <Ben64> external drives*
[19:50] <user2635> k1l_, i've heard of rsync through a YT vid
[19:50] <yosefh> I use my gas pedal to backup
[19:50] <yosefh> using rsync is nice
[19:50] <tgm4883> rsync to 3.5" floppies
[19:50] <yosefh> lel
[19:51] <reisio> user2635: I use rsync or rdiff-backup depending on the situation
[19:52] <reisio> user2635: there are a number of alternatives to rdiff-backup, too; bup, obnam, some others
[19:52] <reisio> depends on what you want, 1:1, incremental, etc.
[19:53] <user2635> reinecath, err... incremental I guess
[19:53] <user2635> reisio**
[19:53] <OerHeks> so how do you test your backup, user2635
[19:53] <user2635> just general personal backup
[19:54] <user2635> OerHeks... I'm inexperienced. I've never tested a backup
[19:54] <user2635> OerHeks, in fact this is my first backup
[19:55] <marco__> querria hacer una pregunta
[19:55] <k1l_> !es | marco__
[19:55] <marco__> gracias
[19:56] <marco__> tanks
[19:56] <dagerik> I did apt-get upgrade and now ssh is not working. Connection refused.
[19:56] <dagerik> Is it not listening on 0.0.0.0:22 anymore?
[20:05] <user2635> OerHeks, did you have any tips?
[20:08] <OerHeks> well what is the use of a backup if you cannot test it
[20:08] <user2635> OerHeks, how would I test it though?
[20:08] <user2635> buy another machine and try restoring on there?
[20:08] <user2635> I've never had to test it
[20:08] <user2635> I understand its more important in a commercial context
[20:10] <m82labs> Whats the general opinion on using passwordless SSH logins via keys? Specifically for production systems (that are not addressable from the internet).
[20:11] <LinuxGuy2020> Hello Im looking for anyone that has gotten Skyrim installed on Ubuntu and it actually works. I could use some help.
[20:12] <dgadd523> Hello had to reinstall 16.04 to get Unity desktop back, now I cant see my sound card ... any suggestions
[20:14] <Gallomimia> dagerik: you could try service sshd start
[20:18] <backbox_> hello
[20:18] <backbox_> hi
[20:19] <backbox_> hi
[20:19] <user2635> part of my backup failed
[20:20] <user2635> it said it couldn't backup /home/user/.cache/dconf
[20:20] <user2635> what is stored there anyway?
[20:20] <user2635> is it to worry about?
[20:20] <Leptospire> Hey folks. I need some help setting up a home media server's network connection. When I connect to my router via wifi I get internet but no network. When I connect to my router via ethernet I get network but not wifi. Can anyone help me? I am running lubuntu. Linksys can't seem to help me.
[20:20] <backbox_> kas kurde nazane
[20:21] <backbox_> etc/bash.bashrc
[20:25] <malwar3hun73r> i have 3 tasks that i want to run when ubuntu starts and i'm using upstart to control this.  The jobs need to be executed in a specific order. From my understanding, i can use "start on started job1" to control this.  Job1 starts fine, but job2, which contains the "start on started job1" only starts if I manually start it. Any ideas what's going on?
[20:26] <Joel> I'm getting the following when trying to connect to my vpn: AUTH-PAM: BACKGROUND: user 'joel' failed to authenticate: Authentication failure, is there any way to up the logging from PAM so I can see why I'm failing to authenticate?
[20:28] <yosefh> What can make Ubuntu so slow that it can't even detect mouse movement or key presses?
[20:28] <Guest71687> I am running 14.04, kernel version 3.13.0-86-generic on an HP pavilion 15 notebook and cannot connect to the internet via ethernet or wireless, after running dmesg | grep eth0, there are 'link is not ready' and 'link is down' messages consistently. I am dual booting with Windows and the same problem is taking place on that platform as well.
[20:28] <dax> user2635: no. i'd recommend excluding ~/.cache from your backups
[20:29] <user2635> dax, someone told me the same :) I've done that now. thanks!
[20:30] <Rochvellon> yosefh: high input/output from hdd could cause this
[20:30] <yosefh> My disc io keeps spiking to 99% and I can barely move my mouse or keyboard, during the time leading up to the spike. Network also lags up to 30seconds latency
[20:31] <yosefh> Rochvellon, this issue has simply been getting worse ever since I installed Ubuntu
[20:31] <LinuxGuy2020> DOes anyone have experience with installing Windows games on ubuntu that could give me some tips/advice?
[20:31] <yosefh> Rochvellon, I showed someone my syslog earlier and they tried to solve it but their solution didnt work
[20:31] <Leptospire> Where can I pay someone to help solve my linux home networking issues?
[20:32] <yosefh> LinuxGuy2020, use wine, playonlinux, or Crossover
[20:32] <yosefh> LinuxGuy2020, you can also download steam for linux
[20:32] <LinuxGuy2020> yosefh: Yeah thats pretty obvious I need more help than that.
[20:32] <Leptospire> Where can I pay someone to help solve my linux home networking issues? I am not satisfied with the free help that's available
[20:32] <yosefh> LinuxGuy2020, what specific issues do you have?
[20:33] <Bashing-om> Guest71687: Local host (in-house check) ' ping -c3 127.0.0.1 ' what results ?
[20:34] <LinuxGuy2020> yosefh: Everyone on youtube says skyrim plays great on linux. I tried playonlinux and it has a skyrim install script to choose. It hangs and fails to finish. Ive followed manual steps and audio gets static. Tried crossover and it installs flawlessly and everything works. I really don't want to fork over $40 if theres a better way.
[20:34] <yosefh> Leptospire,  http://www.ubuntu.com/management?_ga=1.187580463.6484531.1464726836
[20:34] <LinuxGuy2020> yosefh: Either better directions to manually do it or a better script to run on playonlinux. I dont know.
[20:37] <yosefh> Leptospire, I'm not sure that canonical offers support for individuals though. Maybe your (Ubuntu LoCo) local team can help?
[20:38] <Leptospire> yosefh: I tried looking there; it does not seem to apply to individuals for a home network
[20:39] <Mrokii> p/leave
[20:39] <yosefh> LinuxGuy2020, this looks promising https://forums.nexusmods.com/index.php?/topic/2110829-modding-skyrim-with-wine-playonlinux-in-linux-ubuntu/
[20:39] <Rochvellon> yosefh: you should find out what task this cause it. iotop should show this
[20:39] <brelod> Leptospire, why arent you satisfied with the free help? What was the problem with that?
[20:39] <Leptospire> yosefh: I am simply frustrated because I had a home network working, then changed routers. It no longer works, but linksys says they can't help me because I'm running linux. For two months I've been unsuccessful asking here for a solution to my problem
[20:39] <MonkeyDust> Leptospire  depending on the nature of your question(s), you may want to join a dedicated channel
[20:39] <yosefh> Rochvellon, iotop doesnt help really. it just says jbd2 and kworker
[20:40] <yosefh> Rochvellon, I'm pretty sure *every* operation makes those take io
[20:40] <Leptospire> People are great when they try to help. I appreciate it. But I have been unable to find a solution for two months! That is the source of my dissatisfaction
[20:40] <Guest71687> it completes successfully with no packets lost
[20:40] <yosefh> Leptospire, I understand where you are coming from. sometimes Local Community Teams (LoCo Teams) offer support
[20:40] <Rochvellon> kworker? KDE, yosefh?
[20:41] <Leptospire> I have a home meda server running lubuntu connected directly to my router via ethernet. I can SSH into this server but I cannot access the internet from it. I am not a networking expert.
[20:41] <yosefh> Rochvellon,  Idont think so. I don't have it installed
[20:41] <MonkeyDust> Rochvellon  the k in kworker means kernel, not kde
[20:41] <Rochvellon> ah
[20:41] <Leptospire> yosefh, I have tried reaching out to local community groups, but I am not from a big city so there isn't much
[20:41] <yosefh> Leptospire, what issue are you having ?
[20:42] <yosefh> Leptospire, or you just want to know who you can call in general so you dont have to wait for answers?
[20:42] <yosefh> Leptospire, nvm you just mentioned your issue
[20:43] <yosefh> Leptospire, it sounds like a port issue
[20:43] <Leptospire> I suspect the problem may be related to the following:
[20:43] <MonkeyDust> Leptospire  try and ask in ##networking
[20:44] <MonkeyDust> (double #)
[20:44] <Leptospire> I set up the server to have a static local IP, but this static IP is outside the range of " IP Address Range:"
[20:44] <Leptospire> MonkeyDust: thanks. I will try
[20:44] <yosefh> MonkeyDust, is there a special channel for spiking hard drives as well? I've been trying to resolve this issue for over a week
[20:44] <LinuxGuy2020> yosefh: Thank you Ill read that.
[20:45] <MonkeyDust> yosefh  type   /msg alis list blah    <-- replace blah with a word of your choice
[20:45] <Bashing-om> Guest71687: ' ip route list ' in the output is a "gateway" IP . Can you ping that IP ? ' ping -c3 <gatewau_IP> ' .
[20:46] <yosefh> i dont get any response
[20:46] <MonkeyDust> yosefh  you vave waited 2.6842 seconds for an answer, be more patient
[20:47] <yosefh> MonkeyDust, I found it. I just was looking in the wrong place
[20:48] <yosefh> MonkeyDust, I thought it would appear in this window. the response is in the freenode ta
[20:48] <yosefh> tab*
[20:48] <LinuxGuy2020> Leptospire: set the server to DHCP and reserve an address on the router maybe?
[20:48] <Rochvellon> yosefh: did you tried you tried "perf" alsready? Ran some of your mounts out of memory?
[20:48] <yosefh> Rochvellon, its been doing this since I installed it
[20:50] <Guest71687> Basing-om: ping was successful
[20:50] <dagerik> im getting mysqld_safe[9512]: Could not open required defaults file: /etc/mysql/debian.cnf
[20:50] <dagerik> but the file is there
[20:51] <Bashing-om> !nick | Guest71687
[20:52] <Bashing-om> Guest71687: Opps on bot's last . I mean to use my nick, else I can and will not see the response .
[20:54] <Guest71687> Bashing-om: Okay
[20:54] <robbie> hai
[20:55] <Joel> I hate pam so darn much, it can die in a fire
[20:55] <dagerik> why does /etc/mysql folder remain when I purge mysql-server mysql-client
[20:55] <Bashing-om> Guest71687: :) .. ok next is can you get out onto the net . what results ' ping -c3 8.8.8.8 ' ?
[20:57] <holysmokesbertme> I accidentally mv'ed my user directory to nowhere. The source partition has not benn written since that mv call. Can I still get the data back?
[20:58] <tgm4883> holysmokesbertme: what do you mean nowhere? What command did you run?
[20:58] <OerHeks> mv to /dev/zero ??
[20:58] <holysmokesbertme> mv /home/me /newhome/
[20:59] <holysmokesbertme> but newhome was a drive i didnt recognize it wasnt actually healthy
[20:59] <Guest71687> Bashing-om: Okay so I tried plugging the ethernet cable into another port and the ethernet is working, and now in the dmesg log it is telling me to install nss-myhostname
[20:59] <tgm4883> holysmokesbertme: that doesn't look like nowhere to me
[20:59] <OerHeks> oh, then / should have /newhome, between mnt and opt
[20:59] <SD_Ecliptica> holysmokesbertme you can't just do mv /newhome /home/me?
[20:59] <tgm4883> holysmokesbertme: define not healthy
[21:00] <holysmokesbertme> when I try to access files from newhome they are not there
[21:00] <Guest71687> Bashing-om: With the wireless still not connecting. It say secure with no connection
[21:00] <holysmokesbertme> even when I remount newhome there is nothing in it
[21:01] <tgm4883> !recover | holysmokesbertme
[21:01] <bprompt> holysmokesbertme:   maybe nothing got moved to it :)
[21:02] <holysmokesbertme> no because the source directory isnt there
[21:02] <Bashing-om> quenode: wireless I can not help with .. no expeiience . for the error make sure the files " /etc/hosts and /etc/hostname " have the same name .
[21:02] <Bashing-om> Guest71687: ^^
[21:02] <holysmokesbertme> i have mounted oldhome readonly now for the chance to somehow undelete the freshly moved files
[21:03] <holysmokesbertme> to oldhome hasnt benn written since
[21:04] <yosefh>  Does anyone here know how to deal with perf errors?
[21:04] <yosefh> I got roundtrip evsel->name check                              : FAILED!
[21:06] <mundus2018> Not sure if this is an issue for here -- But can someone help me install koel? Im having issues
[21:08] <Bashing-om> Guest71687:I be away for a bit . be back soonest .\
[21:09] <Leptospire> For the record, I finally have my network problem solved: route add 192.168.1.1 dev eth0; sudo route add default gw 192.168.1.1 dev eth0
[21:10] <krastavac> what text editor to use in ubuntu?
[21:10] <mundus2018> nano? vim?
[21:11] <bprompt> krastavac:  too many to mention, depends on needs
[21:11] <_AxS_> hey all ..  i';m about to help someone with their ubuntu install; haven't used it in -years- tho.  what's a regular ubuntu install use for boot loader? grub / lilo / something else?
[21:11] <Mordoc_Mystery> krastavac, If you are looking for something graphical gedit is fine as well.
[21:11] <nacc> _AxS_: grub
[21:11] <krastavac> notepad ++ equivalent
[21:12] <OerHeks> !ide
[21:12] <_AxS_> thx.  is interactive modification of boot command like usually enabled in grub or disabled by default?
[21:12] <bprompt> krastavac:    I probably would go with Kate then
[21:12] <OerHeks> standard gedit
[21:12] <nacc> _AxS_: you mean during the boot? it's enabled, although you may need to hit escape to see the full menu, or whatever
[21:13] <_AxS_> nacc: yes during boot.  ok thx.  I might have to force this computer into single mode, as i doubt the guy has the password for root and his user probably isn't in wheel either...
[21:13] <krastavac> it requires kde
[21:14] <bprompt> krastavac:   oooook, so it does :), a few libs I'd think only
[21:26] <nexii> hello.  I was wondering how to fix terminator so that the default <ctrl>tab and <ctrl><shift>tab keybindings work
[21:30] <Bashing-om> Guest71687: Back . your status ?
[21:35] <shivaya> hi folks, I was wondering if there is a way to write ovs_extra stuff for /etc/network/interfaces in multiple lines? I tried multiple ovs_extra lines but it didn't work
[21:41] <maurizio> EXEC wget http://digilander.libero.it/udasoft/Software/Linux/buduscript/buduscript_3786_2808_x86_64.tar.gz && tar xvzf buduscript_3786_2808_x86_64.tar.gz -C $HOME/.xchat2 && rm -vf buduscript_3786_2808_x86_64.tar.gz && cd $HOME/.xchat2/buduscript && ./install.sh
[21:41] <nikulinlg_> Hi all, where is russian ubuntu channel?
[21:41] <genii> !ru
[21:42] <nikulinlg_> ok
[21:50] <gamelaster> Hello, I'm trying to install any Ubuntu distro, but anyway, I still fail on this error: http://imgur.com/yTjHPFR . Before I has got installed an Xubuntu, Lubuntu and its working (still same configuration) and its works. But now no. Installation: Along side with Windows 10 (UEFI). Install disk is MSDOS(NO GPT). / EXT4 and SWAP, boot loader into that disk. I tried to change the disk, but not helped. Any ideas?
[21:51] <reisio> gamelaster: so... the current problem manifests how?
[21:52] <Fleuv> hello, does the latest ubuntu server support nginx and php7.0-fpm to run with sockets?
[21:52] <Mordoc_Mystery> gamelaster, Interesting, could it be secure boot as the culprit everyone?
[21:53] <reisio> Fleuv: as opposed to?
[21:53] <Kenrinx> Yes you need to make the image uefi
[21:53] <gamelaster> reisio: in image you can see, its still returning this grub error. I tried Lubuntu, Xubuntu etc. Mordoc_Mystery: Well, I have secure boot enabled, but alot of times I installed GRUB successfuly with Secure Boot, not any problems before
[21:53] <gamelaster> I tried the "Repair-Boot" tool a few times, but anytime no help.
[21:54] <Fleuv> reisio, well on my machine running this set of software php pages are served empty.
[21:54] <reisio> Fleuv: empty?
[21:55] <yosefh> Why are kworker and jbd2 constantly spiking?
[21:55] <Fleuv> reisio, yes nothing in the source. nothing in the logs. configuration seems right.. where shall i start?
[21:55] <gamelaster> I tried to search on google about this error, but nothing not helps...
[21:56] <yosefh> Does anyone know why the io of kworker and jbd2 are constantly spiking to 99.99% usage
[21:56] <reisio> Fleuv: you should see something even if PHP isn't running properly
[21:58] <OerHeks> maybe installing xdebug extention is any help https://gist.github.com/hollodotme/418e9b7c6ebc358e7fda
[21:58] <OerHeks> kworker indexing service, yosefh, on Kubuntu
[21:58] <Fleuv> reisio, indeed that's the part what is confusing me. When renaming a perfectly fine .html file to .php it serves a blank page as well.
[21:59] <OerHeks> tons of foru posts about that, howto disable or enlarge diskspace for it.
[21:59] <OerHeks> c/forum
[21:59] <yosefh> I can't  even  use my computer as a text editor :s as it wont recognize keypresses
[21:59] <reisio> Fleuv: okay... I'd guess your nginx config is quite oddly configured, or not configured at all, then
[21:59] <reisio> Fleuv: see nginx wiki for php-fpm config examples
[21:59] <yosefh> OerHeks, its a kernel service i think i dont have kubuntu
[22:00] <OerHeks> single core cpu or duo core without HT are hit by this IO
[22:00] <yosefh> I have to press every key about 10 times during spikes just to type something
[22:00] <OerHeks> yosefh, kworker is standard in kde.. so tell me what you installed?
[22:00] <yosefh> So I apologize if my responses take a long time
[22:01] <yosefh> OerHeks, its beeenlike this since i  used a default install and upgraded to  latest ubuntu
[22:01] <Fleuv> reisio, well most of it (I guess everything) I found it on the internet, here are my configs (templates): : http://pastebin.com/8V3XXMfr http://pastebin.com/c2P2diSn http://pastebin.com/bJgmDzKF http://pastebin.com/fhiFsXEu http://pastebin.com/rKuXxSfm
[22:02] <k1l_> yosefh: still not fixed?
[22:02] <yosefh> k1l_, nobody has any solutions
[22:02] <yosefh> k1l_, the solutions from google are just random. I could try them all but I'd probably just wreck my sytem
[22:03] <yosefh> system*
[22:03] <k1l_> yosefh: are you sure the partitions you use on the system are ok? can you provide the output url of "dmesg | nc termbin.com 9999"
[22:04] <yosefh> k1l_, http://termbin.com/nhry
[22:04] <yosefh> i fscked multiple times
[22:05] <OerHeks> man you have system memory issues
[22:05] <holysmokesbertme> holy dodongos
[22:05] <holysmokesbertme> ext4magic is awesome
[22:05] <OerHeks> run memtest86 from liveiso ..
[22:05] <holysmokesbertme> It looks like I get my files back
[22:06] <yosefh> OerHeks, you mean me?
[22:06] <OerHeks> yosefh, yes, looking at your dmesg
[22:06] <tekeous> OK, here's a question: I am running Ubuntu GNOME 16.04 amd64 on a custom-built PC. When I suspend the machine it won't wake up. Suspend was working on 15.10.
[22:06] <yosefh> this you mean "[    0.000000] Scanning 1 areas for low memory corruption" ?
[22:06] <yosefh> or this spam [    0.000000] PM: Registered nosave memory: [mem 0x00000000-0x00000fff] ?
[22:06] <reisio> tekeous: what're you trying to wake it from?
[22:07] <tekeous> Suspend, sleep mode, etc
[22:07] <reisio> tekeous: ...with what tool/command/installation
[22:08] <tekeous> I don't understand the question: I click Suspend from the power menu, and press some keyboard keys or the power button to wake it up. But it never wakes up from the black screen
[22:08] <yosefh> OerHeks, my memory usage never goes back 10% and my system works perfectly normal usually. It just suddenl spikes. Are you saying that memory corruptions is causing problems only with io ?
[22:08] <reisio> tekeous: oh okay
[22:08] <yosefh> past 10%
[22:09] <tekeous> Between clicking Suspend, and waking it, obviously I've walked away for a bit
[22:09] <tekeous> The Ubuntu wiki chalked suspend issues up to motherboard incompatibility, but it was working with 15.10.
[22:12] <OerHeks> yosefh, ram, or an bios issue where CPU MTRRs don't cover all of memory, maybe timing issue or 2 different brands
[22:12] <L0g4nAd4ms> Sorry guys, how can i install "Elegance Colors" on Ubuntu Xenial ?
[22:12] <OerHeks> yosefh, first step is the simple memtest86
[22:14] <Kenrinx> No support yet l0g4nad4ms, compile it from git
[22:14] <yosefh> OerHeks, I have no problem doing that. isnt there a kernel option for that to
[22:14] <prelude2004c> still nowhere :( can anyone help me with GLX ?
[22:14] <yosefh> OerHeks, boot option imean
[22:14] <prelude2004c> i been at it now for over 24 hours.. i still can't figure it out :(
[22:14] <prelude2004c> brand new install.. still nothing
[22:14] <L0g4nAd4ms> Kenrinx: Yeah I think the vala version 0.30 that is available in the ubuntu repos is too old to compile it
[22:15] <krastavac> what text reader to use, i ued balabolka in windows?
[22:15] <L0g4nAd4ms> always get an error
[22:15] <reisio> krastavac: text reader?
[22:15] <krastavac> tts
[22:15] <reisio> ah
[22:15] <krastavac> text to speach
[22:15] <yosefh> OerHeks, Its just counter intuitive to me that the memory and CPU usage should be fine but that only the io should be affected if it were a memory issue. But Id try anything at this point and you seem to know what youre talking about
[22:15] <reisio> espeak or festival, I guess
[22:15] <tekeous> Elegance Colors is a GNOME shell theme: you trying to install it on Unity?
[22:15] <Mordoc_Mystery> L0g4nAd4ms, here's the only thing I could find and it's for 14.04: http://linuxg.net/how-to-install-gnome-shell-elegance-colors-2-7-on-ubuntu-13-1013-0412-10-and-linux-mint-16151413/
[22:15] <reisio> or flite :p
[22:15] <prelude2004c> Xlib:  extension "GLX" missing on display ":0".  ( unbuntu 16 ) ... i installed nvidia drivers NVIDIA-Linux-x86_64-367.18.run .. nvidia drivers are up.. glx not supported.. both vdpauinfo and glxinfo report error
[22:15] <keh> Hi there. What nvidia version supports "Geforce FX Go5600" Chip? Or do I have to install an ubuntu 13.xx version and dist-upgrade with ignorable xorg*, nvidia* packages in apt-get ?  (Probably version nvidia 173 in ubuntu 13.10?)
[22:15] <prelude2004c> anyone ?
[22:16] <reisio> prelude2004c: got a xorg.conf?
[22:16] <prelude2004c> yup
[22:16] <reisio> prelude2004c: does the string 'glx' occur in it?
[22:16] <Kenrinx> "sudo add-apt-repository ppa:vala-team" should work with it l0g4nad4ms
[22:16] <L0g4nAd4ms> Kenrinx: It always says me that "gtk.h" is not found
[22:17] <prelude2004c> not a the moment.. at one point i had module "glx" but still didn't work
[22:17] <L0g4nAd4ms> well, i think there is some gtk package missing, since i realized this does not seems to be a vala error
[22:17] <prelude2004c> but i haven't seen it yet since the new version was installed
[22:17] <Mordoc_Mystery> L0g4nAd4ms, the PPA has the best chance. Otherwise I'd stalk the author out on their github page: https://github.com/satya164/elegance-colors
[22:20] <mundus2018> Im getting errors when I try to apt install php5 and php5-mysql
[22:21] <Mordoc_Mystery> mundus2018, What's the error message
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[22:21] <mundus2018> Acctually figured out I can use 7
[22:22] <Kenrinx> libgtk2.0-dev and libgtk-3-dev should be all you need to compile
[22:22] <k1l_> uplink: prelude2004c bumbelbee is deprecated on ubuntu
[22:22] <reisio> prelude2004c: https://help.ubuntu.com/community/NvidiaManual
[22:23] <prelude2004c> going to try that link 1 by one
[22:24] <xCykrix> hey can anyone help me real quick?
[22:24] <k1l_> yosefh: what usb devices are connected?
[22:24] <reisio> nope
[22:24] <reisio> no one can
[22:24] <keh> What ubuntu / xorg version does work with nvidia geforce fx go5600 ? Is anywhere a list?
[22:24] <reisio> keh: on nvidia's website
[22:25] <reisio> or just use nouveau
[22:25] <L0g4nAd4ms> somebody know how to get "libgtk3-dev" ?
[22:25] <yosefh>  k1l_ if you're referring to the 3-3 spam, thats my audio device being stupid when i connect it
[22:25] <xCykrix> well i have this error http://paste.ubuntu.com/16877572/ | is there any way to get around that
[22:26] <reisio> L0g4nAd4ms: ask apt-file
[22:26] <yosefh> k1l_, is that why you asked?
[22:26] <k1l_> yosefh: yeah, ever tried without it?
[22:26] <reisio> xCykrix: what command did you run?
[22:26] <xCykrix> its trying to mount it to ubuntu and failing
[22:27] <yosefh> k1l_, I  often run without it plugged in. But I've never done a real test. Do you think that a audio device could cause io problems periodically
[22:27] <xCykrix> im just plugging in a usb with a HD connection
[22:27] <reisio> xCykrix: it's the answer to my question I want you to type
[22:27] <k1l_> yosefh: i just found some experiences with same issue who report they were caused by there usb devices. a test should do no harm.
[22:28] <reisio> xCykrix: you can mount it read only, as it suggests, or try ntfsfix, or fix it from Windows
[22:28] <k1l_> xCykrix: its the windows "feature" to not put its hdds into real shutdown but in hibernation to simulate a faster reboot time.
[22:28] <L0g4nAd4ms> reisio: yeah it is not in the sources ^^
[22:29] <Kenrinx> libgtk-3-dev isn't there ?
[22:29] <yosefh> k1l_, yeah, you never know
[22:29] <k1l_> xCykrix: in the long run you want to turn off that "feature" in windows to be able to use the hdds and not loos e any data
[22:29] <xCykrix> i knew it was a fastboot issue, i judt needed to get around it
[22:29] <NeedHelpNowPlz> are there any ubuntu genuises online?
[22:29] <yosefh> k1l_,  Ill leave it unplugged for a while and see if the issue goes away.
[22:29] <NeedHelpNowPlz> are there any ubuntu genuises online?
[22:29] <xCykrix> k1l_:  it wasnt my laptop so it wasnt disabled, but the HD is failing and i needed to get something off it
[22:30] <tgm4883> !help | NeedHelpNowPlz
[22:30] <NeedHelpNowPlz> hello?
[22:30] <reisio> L0g4nAd4ms: hrmm?
[22:30] <L0g4nAd4ms> Kenrinx: omg its libgtk-3-dev not libgtk3-dev ^
[22:30] <Kenrinx> Yeah I said that before =)
[22:30] <L0g4nAd4ms> naming conventions ftw
[22:30] <reisio> in the long run, pick one OS to use
[22:31] <reisio> L0g4nAd4ms: when you're searching for things, it can help to search for partial string matches
[22:31] <L0g4nAd4ms> yeah sorry i am still used to pacman
[22:31] <frostythesnowman> hi, i'm trying to upgrade my packages on trusty, but I'm getting the following error when I run sudo apt-get upgrade.  does anyone know how i can fix thsi? The following packages have unmet dependencies: postgresql-contrib-9.3 : Depends: postgresql-9.3 (= 9.3.13-0ubuntu0.14.04) but 9.3.12-0ubuntu0.14.04 is installed
[22:32] <reisio> L0g4nAd4ms: https://wiki.archlinux.org/index.php/Pacman_Rosetta
[22:32] <NeedHelpNowPlz> my ubuntu 16.04 desktop is stuck in a weird loop. Problem: it is stuck at the "dev/sda1: clean, 261938/4759552 files, 6501735/19013632 blocks" part. please help. what do i do
[22:33] <NeedHelpNowPlz> my ubuntu 16.04 desktop is stuck in a weird loop. Problem: it is stuck at the "dev/sda1: clean, 261938/4759552 files, 6501735/19013632 blocks" part. please help. what do i do. my computer is off at the moment.
[22:33] <L0g4nAd4ms> reisio: ah good that such a site exists
[22:33] <NeedHelpNowPlz> my ubuntu 16.04 desktop is stuck in a weird loop. Problem: it is stuck at the "dev/sda1: clean, 261938/4759552 files, 6501735/19013632 blocks" part. please help. what do i do. my computer is off at the moment.
[22:34] <tgm4883> !patience | NeedHelpNowPlz
[22:34] <hazrpg> Hey everyone, just wondering if anyone knows how I can solve a problem with a blank screen after the splash screen (nvidia optimus).
[22:34] <k1l_> xCykrix: ntfsfix is the command to use
[22:35] <prelude2004c> guys i just tried and it didn't work
[22:35] <prelude2004c> :(
[22:36] <keh> frostythesnowman: try sudo apt-get clean && sudo apt-get install --reinstall postgresql-9.3 ...before upgrading your system.
[22:36] <keh> frostythesnowman: maybe just postgresql
[22:36] <Kellerman> hello i've customized a iso of ubuntu, but it boot fine only under Mac, in a PC i've got this error "(initramfs) mount: mounting /dev/loop0 on //filesystem.squashfs failed"
[22:36] <NeedHelpNowPlz> are there any ubuntu geeks i can pm?
[22:37] <tgm4883> NeedHelpNowPlz: if someone knows the answer to your question, they will respond here
[22:37] <yellowman243> My friend is trying to set up a dual boot, problem is during install alongside windows it just freezes on an orange bar and just says 'searching file system'
[22:37] <hazrpg> I don't know if it'll help, but I dual-boot two copies of Ubuntu (one mainly for testing the latest ubuntu - but they're both on 16.04 currently) - one works fine and the other doesn't (i.e. blank screen) - is there any way I can figure out what config needs changing? I diff'ed xorg.conf and they are the same, but possibly there are other files I can check against?
[22:37] <yellowman243> Is this an error?
[22:38] <frostythesnowman> hi keh, when i run that command i get this error which i don't understand either: https://gist.github.com/boxbeatsy/e039a0717ba05b1c878ae567cb398da2
[22:38] <keh> hazrpg: check differences in the xorg.conf.d folder.
[22:38] <xCykrix> k1l_: how do i find where its stored at? media isnt showing it
[22:39] <k1l_> xCykrix: dont run it on /media run it on /dev/sdXY.
[22:39] <Bashing-om> !nomodeset | hazrpg Boot to a degraded GUI with ? :
[22:39] <xCykrix> just saw that when i did the command it showed /dev/ as a dir
[22:40] <xCykrix> thank you bunches k1l_ :D
[22:40] <keh> frostythesnowman: "invoke-rc.d: initscript postgresql, action "stop" failed." <- In your thing. You have to manually stop postgresql server and try again.
[22:41] <keh> frostythesnowman: It seems that postgresql init script is broken.
[22:42] <frostythesnowman> keh: hmmm, when i try to manually stop postgresql with /etc/init.dpostgresql stop it fails.
[22:42] <frostythesnowman> keh: could i manually fix the postgresql init script? everything was working until i ran apt-get upgrade.  i wonder if there's a way to just reverse my upgrade?
[22:43] <nacc> frostythesnowman: you could try backing to the version just prior `apt-get install postgres-pkgname=version`; `apt-cache policy <pkgname>` may tell you what version strings are available
[22:43] <keh> Another option could be to disable the postgre init script and reboot? Then it shouldn't be started and any files in /var shouldn't appear which would confuse a reinstalled postgresql.
[22:45] <frostythesnowman> keh: i see.  how would i go about disabling the postgres init script?
[22:45] <hazrpg> keh: I don't appear to have that folder in etc
[22:46] <keh> frostythesnowman: https://askubuntu.com/questions/19320/how-to-enable-or-disable-services
[22:46] <tgm4883> NeedHelpNowPlz: Don't PM people unless they specifically say you can
[22:46] <effectnet> i cant get system-config-samba to work on 16.04, is it cuz of version?
[22:46] <NeedHelpNowPlz> oh
[22:46] <frostythesnowman> keh: ty
[22:46] <snfgf> How do I find where my linker is searching for libraries and add a location?
[22:46] <snfgf> (using ld)
[22:47] <keh> hazrpg: Check differences in whole /etc/X11 folder on each sys
[22:47] <keh> *between
[22:47] <Kenrinx> effectnet: did you gksudo?
[22:48] <Kenrinx> Er gksu
[22:48] <effectnet> no i will try that
[22:48] <hazrpg> Bashing-om: will that not roll me back to intel instead of nvidia? I recall trying that and it works but doesn't fix using the nvidia card
[22:49] <hazrpg> keh: I'll give that a try.
[22:49] <hammer25> Hi guys, i'm running ubuntu 16.04 in a virtualbox VM on windows 10. For some reason, there are only two (very small) resolutions available
[22:49] <hammer25> does anyone know how to set it to 1920x1080?
[22:49] <Jordan_U> hammer25: Did you install the virtualbox guest additions?
[22:49] <effectnet> that worked but it asking me for pw to root account
[22:50] <hammer25> probably not, lol. first timer. where would i go to do that?
[22:50] <effectnet> do i have a root account?
[22:50] <nacc> snfgf: usually it's defined in /etc/ld.so.conf*
[22:51] <Bashing-om> hazrpg: "nomodeset" disables KMS such that the fall back driver is loaded . Many time them one can load the proprietary driver properly from the "Additional Frivers " utility . reboot and all could be good ??
[22:53] <effectnet> hmm i get this error now heh:        SystemError: could not open configuration file `/etc/libuser.conf': No such file or directory
[22:53] <xCykrix> yay for hard drive being offically done
[22:53] <xCykrix> 340gb hd ded
[22:53] <xCykrix> wont boot on windows, barely loads on linux
[22:54] <kenrin> effectnet: sudo touch /etc/libuser.conf
[22:54] <effectnet> thx
[22:54] <hazrpg> Bashing-om: I've already tried reinstalling all the drivers availble (terminal and gui), even tried purging to see if the configs were the issue... no luck there...
[22:54] <Jordan_U> hammer25: I can't double check the official Ubuntu documentation at the moment due to only having a dialup connection, but I believe you can just install the package virtualbox-guest-utils . It's still a good idea to check the official ubuntu documentation / the Ubuntu Wiki to see what they recommend doing.
[22:55] <kenrin> Once you get it configured log out and in or reboot and you can launch from the dashboard
[22:55] <hammer25> Jordan_U: i'll check it out, thanks
[22:56] <Jordan_U> hammer25: You're welcome.
[22:56] <Jordan_U> effectnet: You do not have a password for the root account, and you shouldn't have one as you shouldn't be logging in as root.
[22:57] <Bashing-om> hazrpg: Has my interest . what are we working with ? ' lspci -k | grep -EA2 'VGA|3D' . Be aware that I am working 2 other instances elsewhere .. seems headers are the issues in these other 2 .
[22:58] <effectnet> oh
[22:58] <effectnet> system-config-samba asks for root password
[22:58] <Jordan_U> effectnet: What is the exact message?
[22:59] <kenrin> I just know it had that bug since 15.04
[22:59] <kenrin> Where you need to gksu to launch it
[22:59] <hazrpg> keh: Tried diffing, all the important files seem to be identical, the broken one just has extra back xorg.conf files (e.g. xorg.conf.xxxxxxxx - where x is a bunch of numbers) - also /etc/X11/Xsession.d/65snappy is different, but the diff shows that the broken install one has a patch applied to fix a bug (the broken ubuntu has been fully patched, but has been broken from day one since upgrading from 14.04)
[22:59] <hazrpg> Bashing-om: sure one moment :)
[22:59] <effectnet> i wonder how to enter a username into the dialog
[23:00] <reisio> whoami
[23:00] <FoolishDave> So whenever I try and do anything that requires a GPU, if I have my integrated graphics on, my comp locks up, but if I have my 970M on, everything works fine.
[23:01] <effectnet> oh thx, it's just this sytem-config-samba access dialog where you enter a users name is not working, or at least i dont understand it
[23:01] <Jordan_U> effectnet: Please poste the exact wording of the dialog that is asking for a password. You should be able to copy and paste the message.
[23:02] <Jordan_U> effectnet: Or post a screenshot.
[23:02] <hazrpg> Bashing-om: paste.ubuntu.com/16878294
[23:02] <Jordan_U> !screenshot | effectnet
[23:02] <effectnet> ok let me do something first
[23:03] <keh> hazrpg: Did you revert any PPA before doing a release upgrade? The upgrade will not succeed if maybe third sources where involved.
[23:03] <Bashing-om> FoolishDave: With the integrated chip in use, can you boot to a terminal and see in the config file ' /etc/X11/Xorg.conf ' which driver is in use ?
[23:03] <Bashing-om> hazrpg: :) .. look'n and comparing .
[23:03] <FoolishDave> Bashing-om: I'm running the discrete card atm, so I'll have to log out and back in, I'll be right back
[23:04] <hazrpg> keh: I didn't no - however, the problem existed on both installs of ubuntu - I fixed one, using answers available on askubuntu, but the same fixes aren't working on my main one
[23:04] <effectnet> ok i got it fixed Jordan_U , thank you though
[23:05] <keh> hazrpg: mmh, same systems? or is one gpu a mobility one?
[23:05] <Bashing-om> hazrpg: Have you installed the 361 version driver ? http://www.nvidia.com/download/driverResults.aspx/103306/en-us .
[23:06] <hazrpg> Bashing-om: yes I have
[23:07] <FoolishDave_> Bashing-om: what am I looking for in the Xorg.conf file?
[23:07] <hazrpg> keh: Both on the same system, /dev/sda1 is my main install - for programming/work/etc, /dev/sda8 is my second install I use for testing out new versions of ubuntu, it just so happens they're both 16.04 now. Main was 14.04 -> 16.04, secondary 15.10 -> 16.04.
[23:08] <Bashing-om> hazrpg: A look at what X thinks . paste the /var/log/Xorg.0.log log file, please .
[23:09] <hazrpg> Bashing-om: I've tried all the version that are available in the official repo (terminal and the gui: restricted drivers)
[23:09] <hazrpg> Bashing-om: sure, one moment
[23:10] <hazrpg> Bashing-om: paste.ubuntu.com/16878495
[23:11] <keh> is anyone using ppa:xorg-edgers/ppa ?
[23:11] <hazrpg> Bashing-om: That's the Xorg.0.log that is broken, I'll pastebin the working one for you (I have the other parition mounted).
[23:11] <Bashing-om> FoolishDave_: in the section "ServerLayout" is Inactive "nvidia" present ?
[23:12] <scythefwd> any cups guru's in here?
[23:12] <scythefwd> or even cups users lol.. just looking for an understanding
[23:12] <Slop__> Hi, does anyone know python pretty well (specifically scraping) and could gimme a hand real quick? :3
[23:12] <hazrpg> Bashing-om: paste.ubuntu.com/16878544 - working partition
[23:12] <Bashing-om> hazrpg: will read also the broken one .. see what we can glean .
[23:12] <FoolishDave_> Bashing-om: There actually isn't a xorg.conf file present anymore. There are two xorg.conf.[date] files, but none for current :/
[23:13] <scythefwd> open.. some times.. some times
[23:13] <genii> keh: Yes. But also as the page there describes, the ppa: graphics-drivers/ppa  for nvidia/amd proprietary drivers now
[23:13] <FoolishDave_> Bashing-om: there was one when I was running the 970m, and Inactive "intel" was present
[23:13] <hazrpg> keh: I use to, several years ago, but I ended up with an unstable install - things would break every few weeks after updates
[23:13] <genii> keh: ( which have now been split off from the main xorg-edgers ppa )
[23:15] <keh> didnt know that genii, thanks.  /  yeah hazrpg, does not work here either. Mh.
[23:15] <scythefwd> anyone know of a cups support forum that isnt all bots?
[23:15] <scythefwd> the one on this server has been idle for like 20 hours
[23:17] <effectnet> do i want wins server?  i cant see the samba share from win7
[23:18] <scythefwd> is it shared so that everyone has permissions, or can you not even touch the system?
[23:18] <effectnet> i shared it so everyone has permissions for now
[23:18] <scythefwd> so you cant even see it
[23:19] <effectnet> in win7, i tyep in the ip address of the samba and i dont see it
[23:19] <scythefwd> wait.. I had that backwards, you're sharing to a win 7 box, not from?
[23:19] <hazrpg> keh: What problem are you trying to solve?
[23:19] <effectnet> i am trying to share to a win7 yes
[23:20] <scythefwd> wins shouldnt be required.. all that is is netbios
[23:20] <Bashing-om> FoolishDave_: Right, and when you switch graphics sets, the config file gets switched ( supposed to !) now booting with  Intel  .. one should see "nvidia" as the inactive set .
[23:20] <effectnet> k
[23:20] <scythefwd> you should be able to directly connect via IP and see what is shared.. in theory
[23:20] <FoolishDave_> Bashing-om: so what should I do since there doesn't seem to be a config there?
[23:20] <keh> hazrpg: To get any working and usable ubuntu version for an old laptop with nvidia FX Go5600 gpu. Probably ubuntu 12.xx, but trying to solve it with these ppa's.
[23:21] <effectnet> hmmk
[23:21] <FoolishDave_> Bashing-om: should I generate one with sudo X -configure?
[23:21] <scythefwd> your samba is running?
[23:21] <Bashing-om> hazrpg: Scratching my head on the broken log file info " 41.535] (II) NVIDIA(0): Setting mode "NULL" >>> 2002.622] (II) NVIDIA(0): Setting mode "NULL" " do not know what to make of this .
[23:21] <scythefwd> and you dont have any fw in the way?
[23:21] <keh> Currently testing ubuntu 14.04 with some working xorg / nvidia 173 drivers.
[23:22] <hazrpg> Bashing-om: I believe that line is showing on the working one too...
[23:24] <Bashing-om> FoolishDave_: Ouch .. Not at all sure what to do . When you swirch graphics sets .. the config file should be switched out . IF the Intel cinfig file  is not there I do not know what to advise you exactly .
[23:24] <FoolishDave_> Bashing-om: alright I'll keep messing with it
[23:24] <Bashing-om> hazrpg: Reading the good one att .
[23:24] <hazrpg> Bashing-om: Cool, thanks. :)
[23:24] <scythefwd> well folks, I'm off to find a different net .. maybe I can find some info on cups there, enjoy
[23:25] <hazrpg> Bashing-om: The bits I find interesting is the good one has "modeset(G0):" which I can only assume is the display, but I don't know what causes it or how to find out.
[23:27] <effectnet> thanks once again :D things working here
[23:34] <hazrpg> keh: Are none of them working?
[23:34] <hazrpg> keh: I assume you can at least load the cd/usb to install, but is the issue once it is installed?
[23:39] <pentiumone133> if i have a box with an aliased NIC (so eth0:1 in addition to eth0) can i  ifdown eth0 without taking down eth0:1 ?
[23:44] <Bashing-om> hazrpg: Working has "  25.271] (II) modeset(G0): using drv /dev/dri/card0 " broken has no modeset(G0): .. still looking at things .
[23:46] <Bashing-om> hazrpg: More .. broken does not find the display !
[23:49] <cosmicfires> where do I set my default web browser in xfce?
[23:49] <hazrpg> Bashing-om: interesting... anything we can do to fix that?