[11:28] Could somebody have a look at python-libnacl and pymacaroons in xenial-proposed NEW for me, please? === seb128_ is now known as seb128 [13:25] bah, thought that worked for channel notices [13:25] stgraber: ^- [13:51] Laney: looking [13:51] Laney: why the +b though, just kicking it would have been enough [13:51] Laney: now I've got to unban it and restart it again [13:52] I thought that +b was enough to mute it [13:52] should have removed it when that didn't work [13:52] soz [13:52] nah, +b only applies at join time I think [13:53] I think it applies to real messages [13:53] at least on some ircds it does [13:54] testy mctestface [13:55] nah, b just means you can't get back in [13:56] you want +q [13:56] (to mute someone) [14:01] :) [14:02] Depends what other modes are in effect; by default +b stops you from speaking but it's overridden by various things [14:02] * Laney just wasted time checking [17:06] stgraber, Laney ^ [17:09] gah [17:10] it's lplib blowing up by the looks of it but I'm not sure why exactly [17:11] restarted with added logging, so if it happens again I should be able to track exactly what's making it unhappy [17:11] that bit of code hasn't changed in over a year, so my guess is that there's something slightly different on LP which is confusing it [18:55] hmm. why was cgmanager demoted in yakkety? [18:58] * slangasek undoes the demotion [19:04] would be nice to have launchpad records of who is doing those [19:07] certainly would [19:08] would also be nice to know why a package is being demoted in contradiction with component-mismatches [19:10] And did something change recently to put the ubuntu-touch seed in main? It's good to have that fixed, but I remember there actually being quite a bit more delta of ubuntu-touch packages not yet in main than what I'm seeing now [19:11] there is probably quite a stack still [19:12] seb128: not according to http://people.canonical.com/~ubuntu-archive/component-mismatches [19:12] weird [19:12] so I wonder if someone has batch-promoted things [19:13] http://paste.ubuntu.com/16735785/ is the list of packages used by the unity8 desktop session (not including recommends) that needs to be promoted [19:13] hmm [19:13] the touch seed for sure needs a good part of those [19:13] that list is from friday [19:18] ok, so I'm not sure why ubuntu-app-launch is in main at all then; unless c-m is just confused because it /is/ in main, and therefore thinking gir1.2-ubuntu-app-launch-2 is a reason to keep it in main? (Because Extra-Include: gir1.2-*) [19:28] slangasek, I promoted u-a-l earlier because indicator-datetime depends on its lib and that was blocking the libical transition, and u-a-l was in main in wily [19:28] ah [19:29] seems that has worked, libical migrated ;-) [19:29] though I'm not sure I understand your comment, is that on the demotion list? [19:30] makes perfect sense, but somehow 'reverse-depends' and 'seeded-in-ubuntu' aren't telling me this... guess it's a timing issue [19:30] seb128: no, the other binaries were in the promotion list and I couldn't figure out why [19:30] k [19:30] I just promoted the binary that was needed [19:30] now it makes sense, but it's still an MIR issue because ubuntu-app-launch has new dependencies since the last time it was in main [19:31] oh :-/ [19:31] which ones? [19:31] ust, liburcu, libertine [19:31] sorry I overlooked that [19:33] so this probably breaks image builds until it's resolved? [19:33] :-/ [19:34] so britney just look at direct depends? [19:34] indicator-datetime was not installable because of libubuntu-app-launcher missing [19:34] but promoting it unblocked the transition even if it's un-installable in main [19:35] yes, britney probably doesn't try to figure out recursive installability in main, just whether the direct deps are satisfied [19:35] xnox: ^^ is that true? [19:35] well, those eventually needed to be MIRed, so we just need to push people to file those requests now [19:35] sorry about that [19:37] ust, liburcu were previously in main also, so we can repromote [19:37] libertine is new, I think [19:37] I'll do the repromotion of ust,liburcu [19:42] thanks [19:42] tedg, ^ can you MIR the new depends? [19:43] Ah, sure, I may harass people to do them for me :-) [19:47] So reading the back log? Do I need a MIR for UAL? [19:47] It was next on my TODO, but if I can avoid that one, I'd be happy :-) [19:52] tedg: only for libertine; with some urgency because the desktop image now has unsatisfiable-in-main deps [19:55] slangasek: Yeah, talking with ChrisTownsend about it now [19:55] slangasek: We have a question about splitting up a package between main and universe [19:55] slangasek: Libertine has a module it builds that has a lot of chroot deps that is a Suggests in the end for the main package. [19:55] slangasek: Can the source be in main and a binary in universe? [19:56] (one of the binaries) [19:59] tedg, yes [20:00] Ok, afaict, only python3-libertine-chroot has dependencies in universe all other binary packages have dependencies in main. [20:04] doko: Do I make a note in the MIR for libertine that python3-libertine-chroot will stay in universe and all other binary packages are eligible for main? [20:04] tedg, ChrisTownsend: no need to mention it at all; http://people.canonical.com/~ubuntu-archive/component-mismatches already directs us to DTRT [20:04] (and shows that python3-libertine-chroot is not a candidate for promotion) [20:04] slangasek: Ah, cool, ok [20:17] infinity (or anyone else), what can be done about LP: #1562480 ? Can fpc powerpc be removed in xenial and yakkety? it is not installable anyway [20:17] Launchpad bug 1562480 in glibc (Ubuntu) "fp-compiler not installable on powerpc since glibc 2.23" [High,New] https://launchpad.net/bugs/1562480 [20:18] slangasek: tedg: I believe this is what is needed: https://bugs.launchpad.net/ubuntu/+source/libertine/+bug/1588050 [20:18] Launchpad bug 1588050 in libertine (Ubuntu) "[MIR] libertine" [Undecided,New] [20:19] Thanks ChrisTownsend ! [20:19] tedg: You're welcome