=== chihchun_afk is now known as chihchun === chihchun is now known as chihchun_afk === chihchun_afk is now known as chihchun === chihchun is now known as chihchun_afk === chihchun_afk is now known as chihchun [07:38] hullo [10:56] mpt: hi! Just filed bug 1587829; this should be an easy fix when you have a few minutes to spare [10:56] bug 1587829 in ubuntuone-credentials (Ubuntu) "Password error message is not localized" [Undecided,New] https://launchpad.net/bugs/1587829 [11:08] ogra_ i mean "wechat",not"weechat" [11:08] chinese call it "wei xin'" [11:28] mardy, here's a same bug report with missing translation on Ubuntu One: https://bugs.launchpad.net/ubuntu-translations/+bug/1368788 [11:28] Launchpad bug 1368788 in Ubuntu Translations "Ubuntu One T&C string/link not in pot file" [High,Triaged] [11:30] robinhero: thanks, it's similar but also quite different, in that the string is coming from the project and is properly marked for translations; it's just that the translations template must be rebuilt [11:30] robinhero: I'll add a comment to that bug [11:35] thanks [12:12] I've just getting a newsletter about OTA-11, and this is from FB: "OTA 11 is out! And we've gone wireless - .. etc" so have this already released? [12:14] it is released once the release announcement hits the mailing list ... and i guess sil2100 will also update the channel topic here [12:14] Yes :) [12:14] yeah, it's in progress [12:14] and even then ... it is phased :) [12:14] Yeah, it's in progress still [12:14] Had some unforseen interruptions but we're proceeding forward [12:14] Should be fully released in the nearest hour [12:15] thanks for the info :) [12:16] nice [12:16] where can you see changelogs etc? [12:17] i think they will be linked in the release announcement [12:18] ogra_: and where do i get the announcement? email? [12:18] on the phone mailing list, yes [12:18] ok i think i havent subscribed [12:19] There will be one soonish [12:19] https://launchpad.net/~ubuntu-phone [12:19] just join that team and you are auto-subscribed [12:20] There's also a separate 'announcement-only' mailing list, https://launchpad.net/~ubuntu-touch-announce , but we treat that one read-only [12:20] cool [12:23] Release notes: https://wiki.ubuntu.com/Touch/ReleaseNotes/OTA-11 [12:23] Commit log: http://people.canonical.com/~lzemczak/landing-team/ota/ota-11.commitlog === seb128_ is now known as seb128 === _salem is now known as salem_ === chihchun is now known as chihchun_afk [13:22] hi [13:22] * SebthreeBQM10HD is sebsebseb [13:23] anyone about? [13:36] om26er, ping [13:37] SebthreeBQM10HD, pong, nice nick. [13:37] om26er, he h indeed I guess :) [13:37] om26er, I think it was you I talked with a few times about the libertine hack etc for example , maybe not though ? [13:37] * SebthreeBQM10HD is sebsebseb [13:38] SebthreeBQM10HD, which libertine hack? [13:38] SebthreeBQM10HD, we haven't talked about Libertine, no. might be someone else [13:39] om26er, yeah ogra maybe [13:39] but oh even better bregma is here :d [13:39] * bregma hides [13:39] bregma, the unoffical one for purtine. apparantly ota 11 is out now though accoding to omg ubuntu though [13:39] 's what I hear [13:39] bregma, they didn't say much about libertine in there blog post, and I am wondering about the actsual libertine changes and what they are :d [13:40] is it a load easier to install additional x programs in some kind of offical way now ? [13:40] or not [13:40] ? [13:40] the scope ? or something ? [13:41] I see I have a 756 MB update waiting on my m10, but with my bandwidth I have not finished downloading it yet [13:41] yeah I haven't checked just yet [13:41] there should be some key bugfixes in the stack, and the libertine scope should be available in the store now [13:42] ok and with the libertine scope can install well nearly any x program ? [13:42] which means you still need to create a container and install your packages in it using the command line, but should be able to discover and launch through the libertine scope [13:42] will the liberitne scope make a contianer on it's own if trying to get a program from it or not? yep not used that yet so [13:43] https://wiki.ubuntu.com/Touch/Libertine [13:43] libertiner scope just discoveres and launches apps already installed in a a container [13:43] bregma, heh if libertine can run most x programs and well in the future let's say :). maybe that can help kill off the Ubuntu should support Android apps debate :d. no need, got thousands of desktop linux programs instead :D and native apps [13:44] well, android apps have different problems [13:44] Android apps already run on Android, I don't see the need to make them run on Ubuntu [13:44] ogra_, yeah adverts for a start uh, for most :d [13:45] bregma, that's kind of my point, even less so if can run lots of x programs well :d [13:45] and more nativ apps will come to [13:45] (and i honestly dont want to use libreoffice on my phone in non-desktop mode ... i doubt supporting Xorg apps will move the focus away from foreign mobile apps) [13:45] libre office is fine on tablet [13:46] SebthreeBQM10HD, i dont mean adverts ... you wouldnt be able to navigate (no back button in ubuntu) ... they wouldnt be able to access anything on the system (confinement) ... [13:46] there are a ton of such issues that sum up ... [13:46] hmm so libertine scope is like instad of having to make ones own desktop icon ? [13:46] the long game for Ubuntu is snappy packagaing for everything [13:46] theoretically yu could ship an android runtime env inside your click and just run your android apps [13:46] SebthreeBQM10HD, yes [13:47] SebthreeBQM10HD, a libertine "store" is in the works, but not until a lot of issues with libertine apps get worked out first [13:47] bregma, so would still have to do some command line stuff to get stuff on there though hmm, but in a future app should be able to do it all graphically ? [13:47] SebthreeBQM10HD, yes [13:47] yeah that's what you basically told me befor I think the libertine store will be coming but not yet [13:48] SebthreeBQM10HD, there is also the libertine GUI management app, I'm not sure if that's in the store or not [13:48] maybe in that unoffical store hmm [13:51] ogra_, if I do the hack for purtine first, no stil not done that, then upgrade to ota 11 or whatever, use the scope. it would use that as my container ? [13:52] not sure what you mean, can you re-phrase that ? [13:53] ogra_, the purtine hack that you used that edits the purtine container for more programs right? but with that libertine scope could use it with that? [13:53] no [13:53] ok [13:53] the libertine howto creates a new container in /home/phablet [13:53] in which you then can install additional apps [13:54] ogra_, ok but need ota 11 for that yeah? henc e before why there was that hack [13:54] i dont think anything changed in that regard [13:54] with OTA-11 you should no longer need any hacks [13:54] or ota 11 is so that scope is in the store [13:54] bregma, exactly that's what I was thinking [13:55] bregma, so the symlink for the ContainerManager.json is gone ? [13:55] (or how that was called) [13:55] bregma, that's what I Was trying to find out if ota 11 would then make that hack that got linked to before for puritne, no longer needed, and it seems going by what ogra put and you that yes that's the case [13:55] the code was fixed so it merges things correctly [13:55] awesome ! [13:56] evidently the scope is not yet in the store, because of process issues [13:56] oh? [13:57] we'll get them cleared soon, it seems you need to send the boys around to break someone's arm to get software in the store [13:57] process issues? got to go through an accepting stage? or what did you mean by that? [13:57] which might explain why there are so few apps [13:57] * ogra_ doesnt care about the scope ... being able to create a container without any hacks is already good enough [13:57] bregma, yeah plus thee's an unoffical store as well, where certain things are, but it's the main one that needs the apps :D [13:58] bregma, you just need to re-pack everything as snap ... and voila you will be a first lcass citizen ;) [13:58] I think that since this is an official Canonical app we need to go through extra reviews and jump through extra hoops so we don't tarnish our reputation by publishing crap [13:58] ogra_, yep not having to use a hack is good, but not having to use the command line at all for any of that is even better, but it seems the second is for later on some time [13:59] *my* software is not crap but I have to prove it to others first [13:59] ogra_, when snaps are supported on the phone or tablet, we will be there [13:59] bregma, yeah I understand I thinik, extra QA etc you mean basicaly ? [13:59] yeah :) [13:59] SebthreeBQM10HD, yes, basically [14:00] you have to pass the davmor2-test [14:01] ogra_, your purtine stuff becomes serpate though? if you do it the offical way after :D ? [14:01] ? [14:01] the problem is that with adding extra read/write paths to the apparmor profile means it needs manual review [14:01] "my purtine stuff" ? [14:01] but i thought that was done already [14:01] ogra_, purtine hack [14:01] ogra_, x programs [14:01] i dont know of any such "hack" [14:01] uh who linked to that :D [14:01] i'm just using the preinstalled tools to create a container and install apps [14:01] anyway seems it's no longer needed so that's good :) [14:01] there is nothing hackish in that [14:02] (apart from removing that one link which is obviously fixed in OTA11) [14:02] which one link :d ? [14:03] the one that is described in the first paragraph of the howto that someone wrote [14:03] oh and yeah not tried so I don't know now h eh [14:03] but ok [14:03] I guess [14:03] I am thinking what link [14:04] libertine-container-manager is a preinstalled tool ... i'm just using it ... [14:04] anyway fine my question got answerd :) with OTA 11 should be able to do the programs in a more offical way, using commands for container, but scope is coming for the icon stuff to [14:05] right ... [14:05] ogra_, now for a a diffent question :d why do you think Ubuntu should not support Android apps :D ? [14:05] you will still have to install the apps yourself ... and you will most likely do that in a new container since the shipped one is readonly though [14:05] SebthreeBQM10HD, i explained it above [14:05] yes I was thinking something like that to [14:06] don't have to change the purtine one, so would use a new container [14:06] I might try and hack purtine first and do some factory reset after that though, I want to factory re set this tablet anyway at some stage [14:07] ogra_, no back button in ubuntu with android apps? [14:07] if were to have [14:07] well, you have none of the traditional android navigation elemets ... [14:08] you wont have any access to the filesystem outside of your install dir, wont have any access to any hardware etc etc [14:08] their functionality would be extremely limited [14:08] ogra_, hmm maybe but would run in some emulater anyway I Guess like Jolla and Tizen ? [14:09] that wouldnt change a thing [14:09] app confinement wont let them access what they are used to acces [14:09] no control from the touch GUI or very little your trying to say? [14:09] no matter if you have an extra emulator layer or not inbetween [14:09] not enough Android like on the back end as well? [14:09] you mean so [14:09] they might run but would be very degraded [14:10] ogra_, well loads of people seem to think that Ubuntu Touch could support Android apps, just Mark Canonical etc don't want to [14:10] as a way to try and getp eople to make ntaive apps [14:10] feel free to provide patches and stuff to make them work [14:10] ogra_, I meant in genral, and I was thinking of putting something like, and are those people ignorant :d ? [14:11] but even if you run them, the different security models will make them work very limited === sil2100 changed the topic of #ubuntu-touch to: Home: http://bit.ly/YEqEfo | Install: https://wiki.ubuntu.com/Touch/Install | Porting (advanced) https://wiki.ubuntu.com/Touch/Porting | Bug filing: http://bit.ly/1aV9AJG | Dashboard: http://bit.ly/12AQV53 | http://www.bq.com/gb/ubuntu.html | https://store.bq.com/en/ubuntu-edition-aquaris-m10 | http://www.ubuntu.com/tablet | OTA-11 phased upgrades in progress! [14:11] * ogra_ hugs sil2100 [14:11] o/ [14:12] ogra_, here's a stupid question :d or a bit of a silly one, but maybe not, I will ask anyway :). let's say that earlier mentioend purtine hack is done, some new programs on yeah yeah. but then you factory reset the tablet, you lose evertyhing you did to purtine as well? and where is purtine actusally on the device as well [14:13] since the container lives in your homedir and the homedir gets formatted on factory reset, yes, the container will be gone [14:14] ogra_, and the default home dir stuff is in the re set I guess, so back to standard purtine after that no container [14:14] (only the one in the readonly image will stay) [14:14] ogra_, which is the one with FIrefox etc default apps? but then no user settings to them those would go ? I guess [14:15] note that we are not talking about purtine ... stop calling it that :) it is libertine [14:15] ogra_, well the hack is for the default purrinte/liberitne tablet stuff :d [14:15] right, firefox, xchat, gedit libreoffice ... they are inside the image [14:16] also stop calling it a hack, it isnt a hack, it is "using the tools in their intended function" :) [14:16] ogra_, I think I am going to try that hack before factory re setting, then after that I'll have a container but in the more offical way :d [14:16] "libertine-container-manager create" is a command thats there on purpose [14:16] as I put earlier I Wanted to factory re set eventaully anyway [14:17] doing that guide first could teach something as well etc :d [14:17] I was thinking [14:19] ogra_, plus I upgraded to ota 10 before so that the termianl app would work again :d [14:20] it got updated and didn't work with the shipped default ubuntu version on tablet [14:20] white screen instead [14:20] Hi === chihchun_afk is now known as chihchun [14:21] ogra_, what x apps you got on there now :d ? [14:21] saavento, hi [14:22] ogra_, bregma thanks for help by the way :) [14:22] SebthreeBQM10HD buenas [14:23] evolution, inkscape, scribus, hexchat, vinagre, pavucontrol, audacity ... (vlc and mplayer for testing some things, they are not really usable) [14:23] ogra_, oh pauvoncontrol even [14:23] Does the device make an auto-update or assisted-human-update? [14:23] saavento, you usually get a notification and have to click [14:23] oks [14:24] saavento, which device [14:24] so the latter ... somehow [14:24] SebthreeBQM10HD, M10 [14:25] ogra_, do you ever get the sound adjusing itself to really loud on m10 ? [14:25] when listening to music for example [14:25] saavento, note that updates a phased, its like a lottery :) [14:25] nope, sound is fine here [14:26] saavento, ota11 is released but you might not be able to download it just yet [14:26] ogra_, Ubuntu lottery [14:26] yeah [14:26] sounds ok [14:27] I just buyed a Miracast device and wanted to try if it fits [14:27] but I'll wait [14:27] hmm, not sure if that already works on the M10 in OTA11 [14:27] it doesnt via the gui [14:27] but does via command line [14:28] (i know it does on the meizu pro5) [14:28] I 've seen something like that lice vnc but not vnc [14:28] dont remember [14:29] **lice > like [14:29] rdp? [14:29] well, more like a wireless monitor cable :) [14:30] It was a youtube video some guy mirrored the tablet to the computer [14:31] well, miracast goes directly to a monitor [14:31] no computer inbetween (except for the receiver) [14:31] yes the device has a processor even [14:31] i just thought it would be a wireless dongle [14:31] ogra_: well you could plug a miracast dongle into the hdmi in of a capture card [14:31] but has arm [14:31] dobey, crazy talk ... then i could copy protected HD movies ! [14:54] can anyone confirm if the play/pause via headphone control is fixed in OTA11? [14:56] ogra_: what miracast receiver do u suggest? [14:57] microsoft v1 has been tested [14:57] so thats your safest bet [14:57] but i really want to avoid apple/ms/google :P [14:57] theoretically others should work too, but i think nobody has tested anything apart from the MS ones [14:57] they apparently have the most standrad compliant implementation [14:58] pi-dave: check the article on omgubuntu.com for all the bugfixes [14:58] i never used one, are there any open/free solutions? [14:58] beside if they are supported on ubuntu touch [14:58] s`: well you are kinda up the creek without a paddle then as all of them are apple/ms/google :P [14:58] davmor2 :D [14:58] i knew it dam [14:58] lol [14:59] i doubt apple or google have any plain miracast devices :) [14:59] you could probably make something with an rpi [14:59] yeah dobey i was thinking about it right now [14:59] is it possible? [15:00] anything is possible [15:00] there is piracast! [15:00] :D [15:00] https://www.raspberrypi.org/forums/viewtopic.php?t=60636 [15:00] yeah [15:01] thanks will do [15:02] https://github.com/codemonkeyricky/piracast [15:03] last commit 2 years ago though [15:04] but there is PiCast [15:04] https://github.com/lanceseidman/PiCAST [15:15] had a look on omgubuntu but no joy - i think it was a bug that was submitted in 2013 - just surprised it was still present in ota10 [15:17] * saavento bye! [15:21] I've noticed /usr/share/X11/xkb on my utouch device. Does it use xkb for layouts? 😗 [15:22] for the external (BT/USB) ones for sure [15:22] not for the OSK though [15:23] Is it possible to somehow debug? I have the same layout as in laptop but bluetooth keyboard can't seem to use level3 (alt-gr) [15:23] that should be fixed in todays OTA11 [15:24] (i heard) [15:24] I tested it today being on rc-proposed without much luck [15:24] maybe the keyboard is to blame... [15:24] hmm, no [15:25] pmcgowan, isnt the alt-gr thing fixed in OTA11 [15:25] let me check [15:25] i thought that was one of our highest prop bugs [15:25] *prio [15:26] I've been toying with xkb to set right control as ctrl-gr to write unicode smileys 😃 [15:26] I see it metnioned for the next mir relese [15:26] bah [15:26] planned Mir 0.23.1 for alt-gr bug [15:26] I'll use it for phone too [15:27] makes the kbd complettely unusable for most non english speakers [15:27] https://bugs.launchpad.net/bugs/1565236 [15:27] Launchpad bug 1565236 in Mir "AltGr not working on external keyboards" [High,In progress] [15:27] sorry === dandrader is now known as dandrader|afk [15:28] I hoped it'll make it for OTA-11 as well but it didn't get there [15:28] yeah, i see bregma targeted it for OTA12 there [15:29] 0.23 is stuck on some issues, so 0.23.1 is delayed [15:29] soon, very soon [15:30] so...think will it be possible to modify the layouts via xkb too once the fix arrives? I want to put smileys there too 🙂 [15:30] * ogra_ looks forward to be able to finally be able to type @ ~ | [16:06] hello! [16:07] continuing my learning trek, how do I get man pages that aren't included? When I type man (almost anything) it returns with no man pages found [16:11] or for that matter, is there a way to scroll in the terminal? [16:12] with two fingers ... [16:14] well... now I feel stupid [16:14] thanks [16:15] hi [16:15] hi [16:15] grasstype, hi [16:16] ogra_, ping it may be some whre on my computer in the history or something sure, but not using that now. for later, can you give me the link again to well the thing you said wasn't a hack :d. I would like to still try that out in OTA 10, thanks in advanced :) [16:17] you really have to look it up on the mailing list ... i havent posted it in a while so i would have to dig it up the same way [16:17] Sorry if someone just answered this (closed and reopened xchat). How do I get manpages back in my jail. I have mandb, but literally nothing but "man man" works [16:17] and I see that OTA 11 is ready to install [16:17] ogra_, oh [16:18] and Ubuntu touch maiing list hmm, I might join that actsaully I think I looked at the archive once [16:19] ogra_, It will be in the Ubuntu touch channel logs even :d, but I won't know which ones :D [16:19] I tried to just google for it actsauoly like that, but that didn't work h eh [16:19] before I came back here I mean [16:42] #bitcurex.pl [16:43] #spam [16:45] * brunch875 wonders what's in the #spam channel [16:45] Invite-only channel 😬 [16:46] bacon eggs and spam; but they're all out of bacon and eggs. and mimosas [16:47] mmmm [16:47] mimosas [16:47] heh === dandrader|afk is now known as dandrader [16:57] Tablet updated!! [16:57] one thing i noticed on Google Hangouts is that [16:58] i cannot choose between front and rear camera [16:58] always shows rear [16:58] also noticed not Miracast :( [16:58] you have to hit the flip thing in hangouts i think [16:59] Isn't it possible to configure which camera is used from settings or something like that? [16:59] and aethercast has to be done via CLI on the m10 as i understood it [16:59] dobey, oks [17:00] yes popey said that earlier [17:00] any clue which command will activate Aethercast? dobey [17:00] no idea [17:00] :) [17:01] i guess it's probably in a thread on the mailing list [17:01] hi guys my nexus 4 screen is broken and i wnto to controll my phone over adb [17:01] is it possible? [17:01] send touch event open apps etc? [17:01] well you can't "tap" the screen over adb really === alan_g is now known as alan_g|EOD [17:02] well, not easily, and things like scrolling would be extremely weird [17:03] johangm90: if you have a bluetooth mouse (or similar pointing device) you could connect it to the phone and use that. would be easier than trying to use adb to control screen interaction, at least [17:04] i have a bt mouse but i dont know what i need to connect it to my phone [17:05] johangm90, Running X applications on Ubuntu Touch and connecting via VNC https://youtu.be/XfMLzlki9XE [17:06] i don't think that's what johangm90 is asking for, saavento [17:06] johangm90: can you use touch on the phone still at all? [17:08] oks I missunderstood [17:10] Hi there [17:11] I have a question [17:11] Since que bq aquaris e5 ubuntu edition is out of stock, I can get an used bq aquaris e5 full hd Android edition [17:12] I cannot find information about if it's possible to install ubuntu touch in the e5 full hd version [17:12] Is it possible? [17:17] From what I know it's possible but not as simple as just flashing, since you have to repartition first with some BQ tools [17:18] no i cant use any part of the screen [17:18] It should be simple but I have no experience 😛 [17:21] brunch875: kaisoz has left but for future refrence, I'm led to believe that if you ask bq, they will give you the tools to do it [17:21] thanks popey 😊 [17:24] I'm back, I don't know what happens but this andchat app is not able to register my nick [17:24] So it keeps disconnecting me [17:25] Thanks for your response, I've seen the bq tools to do it with the e5 but I can find nothing about the full hd [17:25] Maybe it's the same, but i don't really now [17:25] Know [17:26] johangm90: you might be able to connect over adb with phablet-shell, and then use hcitool to connect the bt mouse from CLI [17:31] ty dobey i will try [17:38] It looks like the full hd is not supported yet... [18:06] hi, has anyone had problems with dekko recently that could have a solution for a crash after app startup when first checking for mail...just updated to ota 11 still same prob.. [18:07] my dekko is consistently crashing when i try to reconnect after a timeout [18:07] and it used to crash on startup when there was no internet connection [18:08] but i have no solutiin for both crashes ;) [18:09] it first started happening last week during use now its every time i load [18:09] joe_w, one thing to try is delete the qml cache for it [18:10] pmcgowen, how can i go about that? [18:11] *pmcgowan.. [18:12] joe_w, rm -r /home/phablet/.cache/QML [18:12] or just the specific cache for dekko [18:13] pmcgowan, thanks give me a few mins [18:21] pmcgowan, tried the command in terminal..nothing happend - still same prob. [18:22] joe_w, ok then a real issue in dekko I imagine [18:22] shall i log a bug report on launchpad? [18:24] joe_w, yes, I see several such crashes and Dan says he is replacing the backend [18:24] https://bugs.launchpad.net/dekko/ [18:25] joe_w, there are many crash at start bugs there [18:25] does anyone also have problems with the browser in the aquaris 4.5 when scrolling loses control and you end at the bottom of the page before you know it? I never used to have this but seemed to be introduced a few otas back [18:25] pmcgowan, thanks for your help anyway, will log a report.. [18:25] joe_w, ok or just add yourself to an existing one [18:26] the guardian homepage is a good example to see this in action [18:26] clifford_, there is a known issue where scroll events queue up during rendering [18:26] can you possibly direct me to the bug report? [18:27] yep one sec [18:27] thanks [18:28] https://bugs.launchpad.net/ubuntu/+source/webbrowser-app/+bug/1584965 [18:28] Launchpad bug 1584965 in webbrowser-app (Ubuntu) "[browser] scrolling uneven and queues up" [High,Confirmed] [18:28] clifford_, ^ [18:29] mañy thanks. it drives me nuts. also you can see another bug in this text where typing freezes for a second and you end up with a held down character [18:29] hmm not sure thats been reported [18:32] it happens quite often on krillin. between that the browser scrolling and the pages closing with memory issues id just assumed it was a problem with the lower spec of the phone and the high demands of ubuntu [18:32] clifford_, the memory management was improved in this update so tabs shouldn't get freed as often [18:34] I might report the keyboard bug then. its almost as if I'm typing too fast and so it freezes for a second but that freeze acts like I'm holding down a key so the character changes when it comes out of the freeze [18:35] its intermittent [18:36] dumb question does it happen when its plugged in to usb? [18:37] we actually saw cases where that interfered with the touch screen oddly enough [18:38] hmm ill need to test. I'm plugged into usb now when it just occurred. ill look out for when it happens [18:39] I actually use my old BB charger as the one from bq wasn't UK adapted [18:58] hi all, I'm Mike and I bricked my ubuntu phone. [18:59] an aquarris 4.5 [18:59] can anyone give me alink to a tut that teels me how to unbrick it? [18:59] tells more like it [19:02] morsnowski, did you originally flash it yourself or preinstalled [19:03] you cant brick the devices anymore, since the bootloader is hardcoded and will always boot in todays devices. so start with what you did and what error you get. [19:03] no it came preinstalled from the factory, it is one of the first phones they threw on the market in these flashsales [19:05] morsnowski, you can try https://developer.ubuntu.com/en/phone/devices/installing-ubuntu-for-devices/ [19:05] need to have your laptop/desktop setup for it [19:06] ok current situtation: when I turn it on it comes up with the white bq background goes then into the 'normal ubuntu' boot screen with the dots mrching from left to right. the the screen goes grey(not fully off). after that I can press the power button that will get the screen to go either grey or fully black. So there is still hope. [19:06] What I did to get there [19:06] I tried http://askubuntu.com/questions/358741/how-to-update-my-already-installed-ubuntu-touch-image?rq=1 [19:07] that failed till I remounted the the drives as rw. After that I added the ppa again ran apt-get update && upgrade [19:07] morsnowski, yeah that is not recommended [19:08] just use the built in updater [19:08] all fine till here. when I ran dist-upgrade it told me I had a broken package but with -f it started [19:08] hmm [19:08] unfortunately it ran out of diskspace and simply hung. after a reboot I had that situation [19:09] i would just flash a new factory image from the bq guys, tbh [19:09] ok is there some link to a how to? [19:10] I would like to get the one that came out today but I'm happy when I get this thinkg unbricked [19:10] is there no button combination to reinstall the factory image? [19:11] nope [19:12] do you run ubuntu desktop? [19:12] yes [19:12]