[00:01] How do you connect from irssi securely? [00:02] check the irssi documentation? [01:38] holaaa alguien de argentina? [01:50] Is python good for GUIs or what kind of things are done with python? [01:55] Standard Python is good for almost anything that does not require extreme efficiency [01:55] ie heavy low-level scientific computing [01:56] But, many libraries for Python written in C make Python a must use for scientists anyway [01:56] As for GUI, it's not only a question of language. [01:56] You gotta use a GUI toolkit [01:57] And most of the time, that toolkit won't be written in Python [01:57] You're gonna have Python bindings for the toolkit though, which usually makes it easier to use than the toolkit's native language (C, java) [02:08] i think dicking around with zsh and omg-zsh messed up my terminal's config a bit >.< any easy way to restore it to the ubuntu mate default? [02:12] Any toolkit for GUI development? [02:13] sorry, heading to bed, i'll ask my question again tomorrow. [02:17] I read that PyQt is the best GUI toolkit [02:48] Hi [02:49] JoeandJoe, you mean qt [02:50] so qt creator [02:50] I don't know [02:50] I just read a comment on a page [02:52] I'm wondering in programming languages the panels of ubuntu-mate were created [02:52] in what programming language [02:54] some knowledge of gtk maybe [02:55] I keep asking these question tomorrow [02:55] bye [02:59] Has anyone run into the problem in caja's interactive search where it takes a second keystroke to register an interactive search? [03:00] example: folder is opened revealing several subfolders, typing the first letter of any of them used to start the interactive search and begin highlighting, showing the characters typed in a smaller window below [03:00] but now it takes a second stroke for it to begin? [03:01] just tried it, it starts on the first keystroke here [03:02] I've been twisting my mind trying to figure out what could have changed. I use the feature regularly [03:02] it doesn't seem to work very well though [03:03] sometimes it doesn't highlight anything at all [03:03] unless I click inside the folder itself first [03:04] interesting, thanks. [03:19] clear [03:19] whoops forgot slash lol - good night === don is now known as Guest49291 [08:03] Hi. I have a number entering numbers as text in calc. When I try to put an apostrophe before the number, it types a similar but different apostrophe. In other apps I get the normal apostrophe ('), but in calc I get (‘). All my settings are default [08:03] *I have a problem === jess is now known as Guest24997 === rw is now known as Guest7973 [09:56] any suggestions for unpacking .rar files? [10:44] randall, install unrar? [12:19] Hi community [12:30] hello? [12:30] any people here? [12:32] hello [12:32] join #ubuntu-mate [12:45] Здраствуйте [12:46] Hello [12:46] ??? [13:10] hello === apessoa is now known as Guest14471 === joerg is now known as Guest1212 [14:32] hallo is it possible to integrate google drive in ubuntu mate 16.04 just like in ubuntu 16.04? [14:40] Guest1212, how do you integrate it in Ubuntu 16.04? [14:42] ouroumov_: it's built in to Gnome 3.18 [14:45] aha! sorry i am new to linux. does this mean it only works in unity? [14:46] i found this youtube video https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=erjSEYnyPiM [14:46] Guest1212, what are you using it for? Backup? FileSync àlà dropbox? [14:46] yes just like dropbox [14:46] http://www.webupd8.org/2016/03/use-gnome-318-google-drive-integration.html [14:47] I don't think there's a way to do it without pulling in all of gnome3 [14:49] okay! thanks a lot! [15:02] there's also a "google cloud storage" option in the backup settings [15:04] Hi everybody! [15:07] hi JoeandJoe [15:22] I'm back [15:23] So PyQt is one of the toolkit That I'm interesting in [15:23] What toolkit is best? [15:23] For GUIs [15:23] What do you want to do with them? [15:24] GUI development [15:24] more precisely [15:24] cross-platform stuff? linux stuff? windows stuff? simple/advanced? [15:25] I assume you want to use python, since you mentioned pyqt. [15:25] Just linux stuff [15:25] ok [15:25] never use qt for just linux stuff [15:25] use gtk instead https://python-gtk-3-tutorial.readthedocs.org/en/latest/ [15:25] looks much better [15:26] some gtk toolkit? [15:27] some books too. [15:28] xD [15:30] Oh! That link is good. [15:34] what language does the mate-desktop use? [15:34] at some point you'll realize that you need more than that link [15:34] c [15:34] with gtk 2, but they're moving to gtk 3 [15:34] is it using gtk too? [15:34] Akuli, That's a great link btw. Hadn't seen that before. [15:34] here's more docs, when the tutorial i linked is not enough anymore https://lazka.github.io/pgi-docs/ [15:34] Hey can someone repaste Akuli's link? [15:34] sure [15:34] https://python-gtk-3-tutorial.readthedocs.org/en/latest/ [15:34] Thanks [15:34] Everyone make gtk apps :D [15:34] oh, had that one [15:35] the other one is great [15:35] a crazy number of libs documented there [15:35] because the documentation has been automatically generated from c docs :D [15:36] ouroumov_, Mordoc_Mystery and JoeandJoe, what have you written so far? [15:36] I don't believe I've written anything of note so far. [15:37] As in, something useful for other people [15:37] I'm working on a noteprogram that displays a tray icon [15:37] much like tomboy [15:37] Akuli, not much of substance really. Mostly internal apps to allow me to be a bit more lazy with the administrative tasks. Some information grab and display stuff. [15:37] tkinter is nice for small guis [15:38] Yes [15:38] But it's not very sexy [15:38] right :) [15:38] doesn't look that good [15:38] Akuli, agreed. Nice to play in the gtk toolbox just for the knowledge angle. [15:41] is GTK written in C? [15:41] I know I little C [15:42] a little* [15:43] Are the GUIs GTK/C or GTK/Python? I don't understand [15:44] You can use GTK from man languages [15:44] many [15:48] If I learn GTK from a book that teaches GTK2/C, do I benefit for GTK3 programming? [15:49] its a bit different [15:49] for example, instead of a delete-event signal you have a destroy signal in gtk 2 [15:49] so i'd suggest learning one of them, not both at the same time :) [15:52] I like the Ubunu-mate desktop. I don't like GNOME3 more than this desktop. So want want to learn it to preserve it, if I can, of course. [15:52] Mostly the stuff are the same, so if you already have experience with gtk 2 you'll like reading the tutorial [15:52] Hey Akuli, wasn't there talks about some developer documentation coming soon? [15:52] but i don't recommend learning one just to learn the other :) [15:53] * Akuli hasn't heard anything [16:14] hi [16:14] i'm installing ubuntu mate :D === apessoa is now known as Guest69997 [23:29] * festerB sighns and mutters to self - imagine the luck, LibreOffice has a spendid document recovery feature after each crash... [23:33] hm [23:34] ? [23:45] bahh, LO is not playing nice tonight, document recovery is saving my behind ;)