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tdaitx\o15:01
pitti~o~15:01
* genii makes another pot of coffee15:01
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slangasek#startmeeting15:03
meetingologyMeeting started Thu Jun  2 15:03:03 2016 UTC.  The chair is slangasek. Information about MeetBot at http://wiki.ubuntu.com/meetingology.15:03
meetingologyAvailable commands: action commands idea info link nick15:03
slangasek[TOPIC] Lightning round15:03
=== meetingology changed the topic of #ubuntu-meeting to: Lightning round
slangasek$ echo $(shuf -e barry doko bdmurray slangasek caribou infinity sil2100 robru cyphermox pitti tdaitx xnox chiluk)15:03
slangasekpitti robru cyphermox tdaitx doko sil2100 xnox slangasek barry infinity caribou bdmurray chiluk15:03
* chiluk = winning.15:03
pittislangasek: FYI, caribou will be a bit late, but he's close to the end so that's fine15:03
pittiwin!15:03
pitticonvergence-y-replace-upstart: settled down the architecture and converted about a third of our session upstart jobs to systemd, the two live happily side by side, all in a PPA now as a PoC; this is now ready for a little sprint with the desktop team to complete this, proposed for end July (TBD)15:03
pittifoundations-y-local-resolver: landed and announced the changes; this caused some fallout about DNS caching and domain specific DNS servers, resulting in two more WIs15:03
pittiUbuntu network YAML config: pinned down design with the server team enough to be able to start working on a prototype; but snappy team has different use cases and a parallel spec which looks rather different; scheduled meeting with lool tomorrow to unify those. This is becoming homungus, it will take quite some more time to pin down the design for this, so /!\ this might land late15:03
pittiautopkgtest:15:03
pitti - Add self-autopkgtest for building and using an LXD container15:04
pitti - Refine apt pinning → source version mapping heuristics (didn't work for ktnef and linux-raspi2)15:04
pitti - Support packages for sources which haven't been rebuilt since precise (#1588199)15:04
pitti - lots of manual maintenance and cleanup after several infra troubles15:04
pittisystemd:15:04
pitti - debug resolved crashes15:04
pitti - Fix comments in resolve.conf for search domain overflows (#1588229)15:04
pitti - Fix networkd integration with resolvconf for domain-limited DNS servers (#1587762)15:04
pitti - Fix LSB init-functions integration with upstream master15:04
pittidistro changes/fixes:15:04
pitti - dropped init/systemd from essential, thus buildd chroots now don't have it any more (hello infinity)15:04
pitti - dropped initscripts from default install, a big step towards dropping sysvinit15:04
pitti - apport: Fix retracing of arm64/ppc64el reports (#1585702)15:04
pitti - at-spi2-atk: Fix to work with dbus-user-session15:04
pitti - init-system-helpers: Fix deb-systemd-invoke interpretation of policy-rc.d (Debian #825075)15:04
ubottuDebian bug 825075 in init-system-helpers "deb-systemd-invoke: incomplete handling of policy-rc.d status codes" [Normal,Fixed] http://bugs.debian.org/82507515:04
pitti - debug/fix invoke-rc.d failure in containers (#1587903)15:04
pitti - Some ubuntu-minimal/standard seed cleanup15:04
pitti(end)15:04
robrulp:bileto15:04
robru* successful rollout of build parallelization branch15:04
robru  - fixed a few regressions identified by users15:04
robru  - reviewed running jobs to ensure things were working for everybody15:04
robru  - answered a lot of user questions15:04
robrulp:cupstream2distro15:04
robru* a few minor fixes to sync with lp:bileto15:04
robru  - support for comments in MP lists15:04
robru  - new filename format for diffs15:04
robru(done)15:04
cyphermoxMIR:15:04
cyphermox- python-yaql15:04
cyphermoxSRU:15:04
cyphermox- ipmitool sel time set TZ parsing (bug LP: #1586048)15:04
cyphermox- secureboot efivar/efibootmgr/mokutil to P&T15:04
ubottuLaunchpad bug 1586048 in ipmitool (Ubuntu Xenial) "ipmi sel time set is setting 30 mins less than given time in OOB, and 30 mins more than given time in in-band method (ipmitool)" [Undecided,Fix committed] https://launchpad.net/bugs/158604815:04
cyphermoxprecise:15:04
cyphermox- debugging binutils segfault on i38615:04
cyphermox  - this is required for the sbsigntool backport for Secure Boot support15:04
cyphermoxxenial:15:05
cyphermox- console-setup SRU (bug LP: #1572697, bug LP: #1576893, bug LP: #1579267)15:05
cyphermoxyakkety:15:05
ubottuLaunchpad bug 1572697 in console-setup (Ubuntu Xenial) "broken symlink console-setup.service [systemd]" [High,In progress] https://launchpad.net/bugs/157269715:05
ubottuLaunchpad bug 1576893 in console-setup (Ubuntu Xenial) "console colors are not correctly applied" [Medium,In progress] https://launchpad.net/bugs/157689315:05
cyphermox- NM wwan icon fixes (bug LP: #1571574)15:05
cyphermox- investigate mdadm install/upgrade issues15:05
ubottuLaunchpad bug 1579267 in console-setup (Ubuntu Xenial) "plymouth-start.service: After: reference to non-existent keyboard-setup.service" [Medium,In progress] https://launchpad.net/bugs/157926715:05
cyphermox±other stuff:15:05
ubottuLaunchpad bug 1571574 in OEM Priority Project "[SRU] 3G (WWAN) icon missing" [Critical,Confirmed] https://launchpad.net/bugs/157157415:05
cyphermox- DNS resolver discussion w/ pitti and awe15:05
cyphermox- various meetings about networking15:05
cyphermox- Lenovo tech here in 20 minutes to fix my X23015:05
cyphermox(done)15:05
tdaitxNote: short week, away on Friday15:05
tdaitx= JCK15:05
tdaitx   - done an initial setup of autopkgtest infra locally with canonistack swift, stopped midway as this is not the best way to get JCK to run15:05
tdaitx   - Got Jenkins installed locally and started setting it up to run together with a slave15:05
tdaitx   - Requested a Jenkins instance with a pair of slaves for amd64, arm64, and ppc64el, requested for Xenial slaves; ongoing15:05
tdaitx= Other15:05
tdaitx   - On vacation next week, will see you all on the sprint ;-)15:05
tdaitx   - After the sprint I will be working half a day for 2 weeks15:05
tdaitx(done)15:05
pittitdaitx: JCK> what was the blocker, something missing in autopkgtest, or canonistack not being up to the task?15:06
sil2100doko: ?15:06
tdaitxbtw, thanks pitti for the help with autopkgtest =)15:06
bdmurraydoko is at pycon15:06
sil2100Ok15:07
sil2100- Shorter week, Friday off15:07
sil2100- Landing team work, silo coordination, preparing landing e-mails15:07
sil2100- RTM status meetings15:07
sil2100- Xenial touch transition:15:07
sil2100  * Adding pocket-desktop packages to the list of unbuildable package checks15:07
pittitdaitx: I guess we shoudl talk about that; you setting up an entierly parallel infra doesn't sound very efficient15:07
sil2100  * Looking into why unity-scope-click is FTBFS on arm64 (oxide build-dep chain)15:07
sil2100  * Poking and coordinating various arm64 related tasks15:07
sil2100  * Reverting the lxc revert for yakkety-overlay and xenial-overlay15:07
sil2100- OTA-11:15:07
sil2100  * Preparing release notes, sending release e-mails15:07
sil2100  * Copying images to stable and starting phasing15:07
sil2100  * Various actions on additional testing - emulator not publishable again15:07
sil2100- Helping out in investigating the issue with OTAs not downloading (LP: #1588370)15:07
pittitdaitx: excellent sprint matter for Greece :)15:07
sil2100- Removing deprecated ubuntu-touch frameworks15:07
tdaitxpitti: even the logs have to private... I believe jenkaas can provide what I actually need15:07
sil2100- Preparing silo with upstream crasher fix cherrypick for lxc15:07
sil2100- Preparing silo for vivid-overlay ltt-controls follow up on the ust backport15:07
ubottuLaunchpad bug 1588370 in Ubuntu system image "Unable to download update from OTA-9 to OTA-11 on turbo" [Undecided,New] https://launchpad.net/bugs/158837015:07
sil2100- Start documenting the current manual image re-spin process15:07
sil2100- Some work on the re-sign-indexes script after key rotation in system-image (merged)15:07
sil2100(done)15:07
tdaitxpitti: but I will be using autopkgtest for the jtreg build that is run on openjdk builds ;-15:08
tdaitx;-)15:08
pittisil2100: \o/15:08
pittisil2100: to be clear, that's both migrating to xenial and to arm64?15:08
sil2100pitti: yeah, we're doing both at once basically15:09
slangasekskipping xnox for now, he said he would be here toward the end of the meeting due to conflict15:09
pittisil2100: die, vivid, die! :-)15:09
slangasek * short week, Memorial Day15:09
slangasek * SRU processing, including some work for the SecureBoot policy update15:09
slangasek * pushing the libpoppler library transition along through p-m15:09
slangasek * discussions around network-config yaml interface for 16.1015:09
slangasek * discussions around snappy first-boot experience15:09
slangasek * tweaks to packaging of snappy components15:09
slangasek(done)15:09
slangasekbarry also at pycon15:10
slangasekinfinity not here15:10
slangasekis caribou here now?15:10
slangasekbdmurray:15:11
bdmurrayshort week w/ Monday holiday15:11
bdmurrayfurther tests of retracing arm64 and ppc64el crashes15:11
bdmurraymodifications to the retracer charm to retrace arm64 crashes15:11
bdmurraytested retracing arm64 crashes in staging ET15:11
bdmurrayadded retracer configuations for arm64 and ppc64el to daisy code15:11
bdmurraymodifications to daisy to keep track of retrace attempts and only try 3 times15:11
bdmurrayworked with webops to resolve an errors frontend failure15:11
bdmurrayirc discussion regarding SRU bugs not being commented on and how LP works15:11
bdmurraymodifications to SRU tools to add release tasks15:11
bdmurrayadded a hint for xenial for fpc15:11
bdmurraydiscussed fpc autopkgtest "regression" with pitti15:11
bdmurray✔ done15:11
caribouslangasek: o/15:12
pittibdmurray: thanks for setting up overrides for stables, much appreicated15:12
pittiand tpying is hrad15:12
slangasekcaribou: hi! you're up :)15:12
chilukyou mean me..15:12
caribouBugfix :15:12
caribou - Quassel does not play sound (LP: #1506550)15:12
caribou   Investigating FTBS on X & Y15:12
ubottuLaunchpad bug 1506550 in quassel (Ubuntu Xenial) "quassel can't play audio notifications in wily" [Low,In progress] https://launchpad.net/bugs/150655015:12
caribouDevelopment work:15:12
caribou - makedumpfile development15:12
caribou   Uploaded to Debian. Will sync15:12
caribou   when kexec-tools merge is completed15:12
caribou - Various merges :*15:12
caribou   corosync15:12
caribou   kexec-tools15:12
caribou - sosreport development15:12
caribou   Rearrange debian git repo15:12
caribou   Prepare new version15:12
caribou - Interviews15:12
caribou ☑ Done15:12
sil2100pitti: hah, will be a while since it's completely dead tho ;)15:13
pittisil2100: only three out of nine lives gone?15:13
tdaitxbdmurray: what irc channel did the "sru comments/lp works" discussion take place at?15:13
chiluk* Short Week - memorial day15:13
chiluk* Mostly non-public work15:13
chiluk* LP#1581236 - Tested upstream kernel + patches on my haswell box with no benefits.  Need to verify if my nvidia card in my test rig is the issue.15:13
chiluk* LP#1579917 - Tested upstream kernel + patches, but saw no benefit.  Need15:13
chiluk* Looked at merging partman-auto, quassel, and mdadm some more.  cyphermox told me to stop with the d-i components due to the rewrite.  I need some guidance for quassel and mdadm, as they both look like they have some broken ancenstry.  Basically quassel requires merging each upstream change when using grab-merge (I'd expect non-conflicting changes to just be applied). That doesn't seem right.15:13
caribouchiluk: sorry for jumping the gun on oy15:13
chiluk-done-15:13
chilukno worries caribou.15:13
slangasekany questions?15:14
caribouchiluk: if you look at quassel, it has ftbs since xenial15:14
chilukslangasek I'll direct my merge questions to ubuntu+1-maint channel.15:15
chiluklater.. I usually look at merges for the last hour of my day or so.. which is probably not optimal.15:15
slangasekheh, k15:16
caribouI've been using the server team's git workflow; wfm15:16
caribouto merge I mean15:16
chilukyeah.. I haven't looked too much at that yet..15:17
slangasek[TOPIC] Sprint prep15:17
=== meetingology changed the topic of #ubuntu-meeting to: Sprint prep
bdmurraytdaitx: ubuntu-release15:17
tdaitxbdmurray: thanks!15:17
slangaseksprint is coming up on us fast; since no one volunteered last week ;), I've set up a doc for our agenda: https://docs.google.com/document/d/1rdiLICseBxX6Gml586DR1YDaFmbYuGEUcayFKdYAWRY/edit15:18
slangasekplease add to it15:18
slangasekand if you have doubts about what you should be working on at the sprint, come talk to me :)15:18
slangasek[TOPIC] AOB15:19
=== meetingology changed the topic of #ubuntu-meeting to: AOB
slangasekanything else for today?15:19
bdmurrayI'm planning on setting up retracers for arm64 and while we could for ppc64el, is there much need?15:20
slangasekit's not a burning priority15:21
slangasekbut is it easier to just set it up at the same time?15:21
bdmurrayYes it would be the same amount of work.15:22
pittitdaitx: want to talk about autopkgtest-ifying the JCK?15:22
pittitdaitx: (the test format, not necessarily the infra015:22
tdaitxpitti: not for JCK, possibily for OpenJDK packaging tests that are run during the build now15:22
bdmurraypitti: Do you have arm64 retracers for LP?15:22
pittibdmurray: not ATM15:22
pittionly x86, powerpc, and armhf15:22
pittino arm64, no ppc64el15:23
pittiand no s390x either15:23
tdaitxpitti: but I need to sit down and try my hand at them before I have an actual valid question =)15:23
pittitdaitx: ok; I think providing them in our standard format is still valuable for running locally, even if you might end up running them on a separate infar15:23
pittiinfra15:24
tdaitxpitti: alright, then lets put that on the agenda15:25
pittigosh, this gdoc thing is impossible15:25
pittislangasek: thanks for trying to unindent that; the unindent button doesn't work, and it seems I'm too dense to drive that15:26
* pitti is too used to Markdown and wiki :/15:26
slangasekpitti: yes, I had noticed the same problem, I don't know what I did wrong with that doc to break unindent15:26
slangasekanyway, seems like we can end the meeting and go fight with collaborative doc editing now15:26
pittislangasek: normally that shoudl be the third-most button from the right, no?15:26
slangasekthere, figured it out ;)15:27
slangasek#endmeeting15:27
=== meetingology changed the topic of #ubuntu-meeting to: Ubuntu Meeting Grounds: Please leave swords by the door | Calendar/Scheduled meetings: http://fridge.ubuntu.com/calendars | Logs: https://wiki.ubuntu.com/MeetingLogs | Meetingology documentation: https://wiki.ubuntu.com/meetingology
meetingologyMeeting ended Thu Jun  2 15:27:20 2016 UTC.15:27
meetingologyMinutes:        http://ubottu.com/meetingology/logs/ubuntu-meeting/2016/ubuntu-meeting.2016-06-02-15.03.moin.txt15:27
slangasekthanks, all!15:27
caribouslangasek: thanks!15:27
pittithanks everyone15:28
sil2100o/15:34
xnoxslangasek, i'm done =)15:47
xnoxoh well.15:47
grvrulzHey @channel. I was supposed to be here for the UTC 20:00 membership meeting, but couldn't be here  due to connectivity issues. Should I stick around for the UTC 22:00 one??20:45
pleia2grvrulz: that seems like a reasonable thing to do20:52
grvrulzpleia2: Thanks, I'll stick around. :)20:52
grvrulzHi everyone, I'm here for the UTC 22:00 membership board meeting.22:01
grvrulzI guess nobody came.22:13
grvrulzI'll probably get back in the next one. Thanks anyways.22:16

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