| elacheche | o/ | 09:28 |
|---|---|---|
| hassoon | 'sup | 14:51 |
| elacheche | o/ | 14:53 |
| asghaier | yo | 14:53 |
| asghaier | how r u doing guys? | 14:53 |
| === asghaier is now known as Neo31 | ||
| elacheche | Good Neo31 ! u? | 14:53 |
| hassoon | not much, too bored and trying to keep reading a book of wordpress | 14:53 |
| hassoon | and playing NES games | 14:53 |
| hassoon | ahah | 14:53 |
| Neo31 | hassoon, sayab 3lik mel wordpress a9ra chwaya Drupal ;) | 15:51 |
| Neo31 | i'm good elacheche thx | 15:51 |
| Neo31 | el madam lebess 3liha? | 15:51 |
| Neo31 | :D | 15:51 |
| hassoon | Neo31: oui mais wordpress matloub dans la majorité d'offres d'emploie comme je vois | 15:52 |
| hassoon | Neo31: kammelt licence appliqué, wen7eb n3mel formation rapide le temps que la fac me prépare le diplome | 15:52 |
| elacheche | Neo31: +1, hassoon WP sucks, try Drupal | 15:54 |
| elacheche | Good Neo31 thx :) | 15:54 |
| hassoon | elacheche: it's required in most of the job ofers that's what concerns me, besides , what makes you think that it sucks ?, you too Neo31 | 15:55 |
| hassoon | it's widespread across the internet , yet it empowers like 16% of web sites, according to some statistics i've read | 15:56 |
| elacheche | hassoon: bad security, no plugin dev standard if I'm not mistaken.. Sure it just do the job, but it do it in the worstway you can imagine (comparing it to Drupal).. | 15:58 |
| elacheche | Drupal is just better, Neo31 (as a Drupal dev) can tell you more about that.. | 15:59 |
| Neo31 | Microsoft Windows is wide spread hassoon. And also required in more job offers. I would recommend you start to apply your theory to that then we will talk about wordpress. | 16:21 |
| Neo31 | So your argument doesn't have anything with the quality of the job or the project you do with it. | 16:22 |
| Neo31 | You find Drupal in less job offers, but also Skilled drupal developer are rare and "can" work on bigger projects and possibly get paid more. | 16:24 |
| hassoon | yep | 16:24 |
| hassoon | i want to get paid more | 16:24 |
| hassoon | <3 | 16:24 |
| hassoon | moneeeeeey | 16:24 |
| Neo31 | loool | 16:28 |
| Neo31 | that's not a guarantee. a Drupal developer that sucks can end up not finding a job for Drupal nor for Wordpress. | 16:29 |
| hassoon | Neo31: meh i'm not doing drupal for now | 16:29 |
| Neo31 | the key thing you have to get special kills and be really good at what you do | 16:30 |
| Neo31 | whatever | 16:30 |
| Neo31 | but you'll miss a lot if you don't try it (learn the basics at least) | 16:30 |
| hassoon | too bored and demotivated to learn drupal honnestly | 16:30 |
| Neo31 | why demotivated? | 16:31 |
| hassoon | now i'm into wordpress/prestashop/symfony | 16:31 |
| Neo31 | that's too much | 16:31 |
| Neo31 | besides Drupal 8 uses symfony already | 16:31 |
| Neo31 | and integrates with a lot of cool stuff like angularjs twig for theming... | 16:33 |
| hassoon | do you know some way to work as a freelance here in tunisia to get some money at least, Neo31 ? that would motivate me for a while at least :v | 16:34 |
| hassoon | Neo31: the job offers in upwork.com are disappointing | 16:34 |
| Neo31 | anyway, not trying to convince you of anything. But it's a fact that Drupal can do more with less code and is preferred for bigger projects. Up to you to pick the technologies you want. | 16:34 |
| Neo31 | If I was you I would try everything I could including wordpress but focus on skills that matter the most. | 16:35 |
| hassoon | eh what ? | 16:35 |
| Neo31 | In tunisia with no experience in Drupal I wouldn't reccomend that. but see online and do some internships in drupal first | 16:36 |
| hassoon | should i just google for drupal books and start reading or what | 16:37 |
| hassoon | un offre d'emploie SIVP ça veut dire quoi | 16:42 |
| hassoon | le SIVP | 16:42 |
| elacheche | SIVP hassoon http://www.emploi.nat.tn/fo/Fr/global.php?libre=808&menu= | 16:59 |
| hassoon | elacheche: thanks reading | 17:03 |
| hassoon | elacheche: don't you think a SIVP job is a must for new graduates ? | 17:12 |
| elacheche | hassoon it's not an option, Companies have some really good perks when they sign SIVP contracts, so, almost no-company will accept to not signing a such contreact with a fresher.. | 17:13 |
| hassoon | elacheche: you mean most of companies will abus ethe fresh graduate ? | 17:14 |
| hassoon | * abuse the * | 17:14 |
| elacheche | it depends on the company hassoon, it depends also on the defition of "abuse" | 17:14 |
| hassoon | otherwise what did you mean in your 1st statement | 17:15 |
| hassoon | requirements for SIVP contacts are hard for fresh graduates? | 17:16 |
| elacheche | FIY, if someone signes a 6 months (or 9, I don't remember) of actual contract (CDD), or an undetermined contract (CDI), you'll loose your "right" to sign a SIVP | 17:16 |
| hassoon | i don't get it | 17:16 |
| elacheche | No, I meant that if you're a fresher, the company will just offer you an SIVP, nothing else | 17:17 |
| * elacheche GTG home, see you later | 17:17 | |
| elacheche | :me brb | 17:17 |
| * elacheche brb | 17:17 | |
| pavlushka | elacheche: I must say, you really make a life out of Ubuntu, :) | 19:58 |
| hassoon | pavlushka: what is that supposed to mean | 20:44 |
| pavlushka | hassoon: It means something to whom it concerns, it's secret, :p | 20:46 |
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