[00:05] valorie: Apparently it failed to build for Wily. https://launchpad.net/ubuntu/+source/k3d/+publishinghistory [00:05] ...so at least my curiosity is now satisfied. [04:11] is plasma 5.6.4 available to upgrade for xenial users? === Jobava_ is now known as Jobava [09:30] Yes, Plasma 5.6.4 is available for Xenial (16.04). http://wire.kubuntu.org/?p=950 https://kubuntu.org/news/plasma-5-6-4-available-in-16-04-backports/ https://plus.google.com/107577785796696065138/posts/btwC7PJnpoK === claydoh_ is now known as claydoh === Blizzzek is now known as Blizzz === \b is now known as benonsoftware === bduncan_ is now known as bduncan [11:53] Hiya folks [12:38] yofel: what am I doing wrong with this ? https://launchpad.net/~clivejo/+archive/ubuntu/krita/+packages [12:38] it installs fine into one big krita.deb but when I try and split it up into krita and krita-data all hell breaks loose [12:40] I think that's supposed to read /usr/lib/*/lib...... [12:41] the lib folder is missing [12:42] brrrrrrr. How does page-wise scrolling work in gtk3 firefox?!? [12:43] very stiff and jumpy on my FF [12:45] are .desktop files arch dependant? [12:45] for me left click on the scrollbar does what the middle button is supposed to do, and the middle button does nothing *-.- [12:46] depends [12:46] question is whether the Exec= line references something that's arch-dependent [12:46] I thought desktop files are just text [12:46] oh [12:47] In 99% of all cases, they aren't [12:48] you know Ive looked at that error for hours and couldnt figure out what was wrong, feel so stupid [12:49] sometimes I cant see stuff for it being right in front of my eyes screaming at me [12:49] Don't. I had the same happen to me, just that it was one single missing character in a long file path -.- [12:49] like, today [12:51] is it nice in Germany? [12:52] its almost too hot here# [12:52] * clivejo is considering taking the pup for a hair cut [12:52] or getting the sheep shears out [12:53] weather wise? We've got floods galore because it's raining buckets. (Well, not my corner of germany though - here it's "just" heavy rain, but no destruction so far) [12:54] blue skies and sunburn here!¬ [12:54] clivejo: Hi :) should have some time to look at packaging a bit more after today [12:57] what happens today? [12:59] hopefully should finish proof reading a friend's thesis [13:11] got a bit bogged down [13:54] it happens [14:00] !info libkolab [14:01] Package libkolab does not exist in yakkety [14:01] !info libkolab-dev [14:01] libkolab-dev (source: libkolab): Development package for Kolab library. In component universe, is optional. Version 1.0.2-10ubuntu6 (yakkety), package size 10 kB, installed size 64 kB === teo-- is now known as teo- [14:48] o/ [14:57] hi jimarvan [15:19] my god so much work lately [15:19] why always when the summer starts, work piles up? :( [15:21] so you dont get to enjoy it [15:21] everyone else who could do it is on holiday [15:22] yeee.... ;) [15:23] !info labplot [15:24] Package labplot does not exist in yakkety [15:24] !info labplot2 [15:24] Package labplot2 does not exist in yakkety [15:27] Might be an interesting practice packaging project then: http://krajszgsoc.blogspot.co.uk/2016/06/strong-kickoff.html [15:32] acheron_uk: I have to show this to my Inorganic Chemistry professor :)) [15:33] 20 years ago I created a pH titrator using custom made plot diagram on a VAX VMS which he still uses. This would be very interesting! [15:35] what about your neglected Organic Chemistry prof , jimarvan ? :-) [15:36] he was a windows addict [15:37] loser :-) [15:37] since 3.1 era [15:37] ye he died young [15:39] that's a bummer [15:40] titrating the pH with indicators ..no pH meters in your chem lab ? [15:41] back then they were very expensive [15:42] and it was fairly easy to measure it to be honest. Now it got harder because of the electro-magnetic interferences: wi-fi, mobiles etc.... [15:45] we had beckman pH and conductivity meters in our lab, didnt think they were really expenive, but I guess being an industrial lab they weren't considerd pricey [16:07] hehe yeap university labs budgets [16:07] see ya later peeps! [19:41] can any testers install and check krita is working in my PPA? Availabe for Xenial and Yakkety [19:41] https://launchpad.net/~clivejo/+archive/ubuntu/krita/+packages [19:46] downloading [19:48] krita: error while loading shared libraries: libkritacolord.so: cannot open shared object file: No such file or directory [19:56] :D [19:57] chromium + flash plugin finally working, ready for next party [19:57] that was xenial clivejo [19:59] installed on xenial clivejo [19:59] opened without error [20:17] same error here in YY. libkritacolord.so: cannot open shared object file: No such file or directory [20:17] so does not launch from terminal or shortcut [20:50] grrrr [20:50] mm? [20:50] never rains but it pours# [20:51] mm Krita might have messed with konsole [20:51] very weird behaver once I installed it [20:51] should do [20:51] shouldnt [20:51] mm === aaron is now known as Guest86371 [21:11] why is aaron Guest86371 ? === Guest86371 is now known as ahoneybun [21:14] had to restart the ZNC server clivejo [21:17] freenode is under attack again it seems [21:18] or was [21:20] what do you mean? :O\ [21:21] freenode gets DDOSed sometimes [21:21] scriptkiddies or whatever once school lets out [21:21] lol... [21:21] just crazy [21:22] don't they have something better or more profitable to do? [21:22] or someone is paying them? :P [21:22] keep them in school all summer [21:22] teach them military time [21:23] +1 [21:24] conversation with a young American recently "Ill be back around 23:15" "emmm what time is that, I don’t know military time" [21:25] * clivejo was shocked and stunned [21:26] dont they teach 24hr clock in schools? [21:26] Nope [21:26] Not in the US rrally [21:26] UTC must really baffle you guys! [21:27] clivejo: For most people it doesn't come up very often. [21:28] lol [21:28] clivejo: you cant be serious man [21:28] "military time" omg xD [21:29] I think most people know what the 24 hour clock is, but outside the military it's not much used. [21:29] I just assumed basic time keeping was taught in schools [21:29] jimarvan: That's all it's generally used for here. [21:29] really? [21:29] Yep. [21:30] dont bus timetables etc use it? [21:30] Personally I used it even though I've been out of the Navy for two decades, but I'm weird. [21:30] in all european cities on labels and signs [21:30] clivejo: no [21:30] i always see 24h time [21:30] never 12h [21:30] Yes, I'm familiar. [21:30] I find that hard to believe [21:31] and india, and qatar [21:31] and bahrein [21:31] cant think right now a single country that I saw a label or sign with 12h [21:31] Whether you believe it or not, doesn't affect how true it is. [21:31] OH [21:31] LOL [21:31] ScottK [21:32] something came up to my mind [21:32] Mostly don't use the metric system either (it is taught in schools). [21:32] when I was in school we have Personal development lessons to teach us "life skills" [21:32] my honda CB500XA bike [21:32] has 12h hour lol... [21:32] LOL xD [21:32] but doesn't show am/pm just 1 to 12 digits [21:33] For current time, I hope you'd know. [21:33] ;) [21:33] but saying that, I remember asking a student on work experience to write the address and put a stamp on about 20 envelopes, such a mess he made of them [21:34] :D [21:34] how can you make a mess on that? o.O xD [21:34] in his 18 years of education and life in general he never was told you put the stamp in the top right hand corner [21:35] ooooooooh [21:35] clivejo [21:35] i am surprised he knew what a stamp and an envelop was. e-mail man... [21:35] this was about 10 years ago [21:36] but still [21:36] xD [21:36] you kinda expect someone coming out of school and doing Business Studies to know how to address and stamp a letter :/ [21:37] I first heard of 24 hour clock when taking German in high school [21:37] before then, it never came up [21:37] now I have most of the clocks that will display it, on 24 rather than 12 hour [21:38] and try to have at least some weather indicators in C rather than F [21:39] clivejo: basic life skills here are very much lacking [21:39] too much helicopter parenting [21:39] valorie: "here"? [21:39] the US [21:39] oh there [21:40] many Americans are barely aware there is anything other than Hollywood gossip, honestly [21:40] history? what's that [21:40] etc. [21:40] :) [21:40] that parent who let her kid get in with the gorilla's is getting some heat! [21:40] education issue? or just life-style choice? [21:40] much less lin ucks? [21:41] maybe too much money in the culture? [21:41] dunno [21:41] oh ye money focus, money buy everything. I have money i know everything [21:41] gotcha [21:41] I wasn't raised that way, but still had too much of the cluelessness [21:42] that's one of the things I love about Kubuntu and KDE in general -- made by people all over the world, working for betterment of the world, mostly just for the love of it [21:42] oh well, if there is someone in 2016 that says openly in FB that the earth is flat [21:43] what? [21:43] we dont get paid for this?!? [21:43] :D [21:43] * clivejo runs away [21:43] run to moneysoft [21:43] they love linux now [21:45] lol [21:45] trying to figure out how to stick a M$ badge on it and charge people for it [21:47] haha [21:49] there are KDE applications for sale for use on MS and Mac, I believe [21:49] and some on Android [21:50] free software can be sold as long as the four freedoms are upheld [21:50] valorie: the money earned is there any revenue going back to KDE? [21:51] yes, although usually indirectly [21:51] aha [21:51] like Krita gets money, which it uses to hire devels to do specific things [21:51] so they sell the means of acquiring the software, either by download or cd [21:51] or they pay for their devels to go to Akademy/sprints [21:51] aha [21:52] KDE itself sells nothing I think, beyond stickers, tshirts, etc. [21:52] I would love to sell technical support for people using kubuntu i.e. [21:52] we have one company doing that; do it! [21:52] having businesses in greece or UK asking me for help for specific uses of the software [21:53] there is so much demand right now for this [21:53] dooooo eeeeeet [21:53] I am doing it xD [21:53] cool [21:53] that is exactly what I do in my companie hehe [21:53] awesome [21:53] tech support for ubuntu/kubuntu based IT solutions ;) [21:53] not sure how much the company on our website kicks our way [21:54] but something..... [21:54] ye that is a good question, mostly is by donations [21:55] but as you said, if there is a specific "need" to be fulfilled, that could make the company interested in investing [21:55] then there you have an opportunity :) [21:56] I want to check ubuntu's subscriptions and benefits [21:56] i think they give you option before downloading the iso [21:56] subscriptions? [21:57] ah, yes [21:57] those options before downloading ubuntu [21:57] that fund often pays for me to go to Akademy [21:57] since we have our annual Kubuntu meeting there [21:57] exactly whoever did that page was a genious [21:57] * valorie never sees that page since I torrent all the supported ISOs [21:57] hehehehehe [21:57] I mean seed them [21:58] I want to find some free time [21:58] since I have decent internet connectivity [21:58] to make an awesome DVD label for Kubuntu [21:58] ooo, get with ahoneybun on that [21:58] we had one last release [21:58] ye... I will definetely try this weekend [21:59] never got one this release.... yet [21:59] opportunity to check on Krita ;) [21:59] excellent! [21:59] * clivejo forgot to install the sym links for libs [21:59] * clivejo face palms [22:00] * jimarvan brings coffee to clivejo [22:00] I need more than coffee [22:00] new brain would be good [22:01] * jimarvan brings an NVIDIA 1080GTX GPU to clivejo [22:01] got a laptop to go with it :P [22:02] not yet, but September. And more 1080M, pure GTX just underclocked [22:02] so I open the laptop case, watercool it throw away the battery and voila you got a mobile desktop :P [22:02] *no more 1080M [22:04] grrr why are companies so bloody useless [22:12] http://imgur.com/SGc3hsI [22:12] playing CIV5 with only a 2Ghz intel CPU + graphics chip :D [22:12] and works like a charm in kubuntu :) [22:12] is that windows ? [22:13] Kubuntu 16.04 :D and no NVIDIA [22:13] wine? [22:13] its my business laptop, since my gaming was burned during the last Kubuntu party [22:13] nope [22:13] pure linux client from steam [22:13] oooo [22:13] awesome? :) [22:14] yeah, used to play that a lot [22:14] now I put that energy into mapping on OSM!# [22:14] I am jealous! [22:15] its like civ in reverse! [22:15] but I need to exterminate the last two standing [22:15] swedish and chinese [22:33] clivejo: have you seen http://www.keypressure.com/blog/osm-in-the-beginning-there-was-a-node/ (re:OSM) [22:34] LOL [22:34] very true [22:35] I look very suspicious! [22:35] still see "dpkg-shlibdeps: warning: couldn't find library libkritacolord.so needed by debian/krita/usr/lib/x86_64-linux-gnu/libkritacolor.so.15.0.0" in buildlog? [22:36] clivejo [22:36] acheron_uk: but the symlinks are being installed in the .deb [22:37] so *fingers crossed* this version should work [22:37] is it difficult to add a new UK postcode on OSM? it is taking google maps more than 3 months now... [22:38] jimarvan: I wouldnt even bother with GoogleMaps, they are a complete disaster outside the US [22:38] ye felt that recently... [22:38] for libkritacolor.so I thought, but not for libkritacolord.so? [22:38] I hear that bing map or whatever it's called is actually better [22:39] bizarre as that seems [22:39] jimarvan: its very easy to add stuff to OSM [22:40] OSM have a licence to use Bing imagery to trace :) [22:40] :D ye i am reading it [22:41] jimarvan: even if you dont want to learn how to edit the map, there are tools to give other mappers enough information to do it for you [22:41] http://www.mapillary.com is a great tool for gathering data [22:41] fantastic [22:42] if i manage to do that, I will change my company's embeded map from Google Maps to OSM [22:42] jimarvan: send me the details in PM and Ill add it for you [22:42] doing :) [22:44] clivejo: still that library missing error on that letest build after I grabbed the debs [22:44] grrrrr [22:44] ppa50? [22:44] 2 with almost identical names I think [22:45] libkritacolor.so and libkritacolord.so [22:45] 2nd is absent [22:45] clivejo: yes, the ppa50 build [22:48] don't see the one ending in 'd' in your install file? [23:00] would it not need? http://paste.ubuntu.com/16967148/ [23:15] gn eeryone :D [23:15] see ya tomorrow [23:19] acheron_uk: added that line to install and uploaded to LP [23:19] 51st time lucky!