[02:08] is it normal to have about a 1 second delay from opening the terminal to having the prompt be available? [02:08] cpu not under load, plenty of ram available [03:35] HEllo [08:02] romeo === romeo is now known as Guest28789 [08:15] Juliet === rw is now known as Guest47177 === scott is now known as Guest81024 === marcus_ is now known as Guest94064 === andre_ is now known as Guest16816 [14:50] hmmm [14:51] I installed steam from the software boutique, but for some reason when I click on it to open it won´t open.. o_O [14:52] Dragnadh, if you open a terminal and type 'steam' there, what happens? [14:53] well [14:53] a lot of errors -_- [14:53] don't paste them here [14:53] all related to libgl [14:54] go here http://dpaste.com/ paste errors, click the paste it button and give us a link [14:55] http://dpaste.com/1JNSZKW [14:56] googling one of the lines, i found this [14:56] https://bbs.archlinux.org/viewtopic.php?id=193802 [14:56] hmm [14:59] Uh i tried the command he pasted, says cannot find directory [15:00] which one [15:01] uh [15:01] The Remove libstdc++ in reply #5 of the topic [15:05] do you have a /home/yourusername/.local/share/Steam folder? [15:06] check with caja, press Ctrl+H to view everything [15:07] I am confused, where do i see this local thing [15:07] local map [15:07] open your home folder from a menu [15:07] press Ctrl+H and go to .local, then go to share, is there a Steam folder? [15:07] file system > home? [15:07] yes [15:07] then your username there [15:07] thats the home folder [15:07] ye [15:08] clicked it then i come at documents and music etc [15:08] now Ctrl+H [15:08] you'll see a bunch more stuff, go to .local [15:08] your right [15:08] ok [15:09] i am in the steam folder but i dont see a that library [15:10] hmm [15:10] there's a bunch of other files there too, remove any you find [15:11] i have 3 maps -> linux, logs and ubuntu12_32 [15:11] and steam.sh and 2 text files [15:15] You could ask on #ubuntu about this [15:21] hola [15:21] puedo instalar visual basic en mate ? [15:24] braulio_: I think you're asking if you can install Visual Basic in Ubuntu MATE? [15:25] oh wow, there's a #ubuntu-pa for people in Panama [15:25] yes [15:25] braulio_: you might get it working in Wine, Visual Basic is very much a Windows-only thing [15:27] ok friend, i like ubuntu [15:27] braulio_: what are you trying to do? [15:28] if you just want to program in c or c++ you can use some other IDE instead, but if you can't you need windows [15:28] if you need actual Visual Basic like maybe for school or college, you pretty much need to use it [15:28] Akuli: python might be a better fit, for VB stuff? [15:28] does visual basic do python? [15:28] no [15:28] but then it doesn't do C either :-) [15:28] I want to use ubuntu as a platform, and install visual basic, schedule, tasks are college [15:28] oh right [15:28] its a language, not an ide :D [15:29] hehe [15:29] and actually you can get VSCode from Microsoft [15:29] written in JS, conceptually similar to Github Atom [15:29] I've never used Visual Studio, or indeed Visual Basic [15:30] but apparently VSCode is good, and there's a PPA for it [15:30] think of it [15:30] Microsoft - *Microsoft* - have an Ubuntu PPA [15:31] as far as i know its possible to install bash on windows 10 [15:31] bash provided by *Microsoft* [15:31] yup [15:31] and Linux binaries for MS SQL Server [15:31] I mean they do a GUI-less Windows Server already, have done for years [15:31] braulio_: okay so https://appdb.winehq.org/objectManager.php?sClass=version&iId=1325# [15:32] maybe that'll help? [15:36] thank you [16:13] Hi [16:13] I got an issue with my login screen [16:13] right place here? [16:14] possibly [16:14] just ask your question :-) [16:15] When my login screen shows up it does some kind of refresh after two seconds [16:16] so often i am already typing my password and i get an error because I hit a key during this refresh [16:16] never happend to me before [16:16] maybe your keyboard -- there is nothing that should intefere with the "login" [16:16] its a keyboard problem [16:16] ok [16:16] really [16:17] its too basic to be anything [16:17] i have an external wireless logitech keyboard [16:17] probably its that [16:17] 100% [16:17] some issue with keyboard [16:17] never been working well with ubuntu [16:17] showing up [16:17] ok i try to reboot [16:17] way to test, plug real keyboard in [16:17] ie. non-wireless [16:17] i have a laptop :) [16:18] but put it on a docking station sometimes [16:18] thats when i use the wireless keyboard [16:18] i do a reboot without the dongle attached [16:19] not sure if wireless keyboard needs compatibility /drivers [16:19] I really don't think so [16:19] the hardware works like a physical keyboard, through the usb [16:20] doesn't have driver .. its not a linux/ubuntu issue, this [16:21] still having the issue... [16:27] Jacki: yup, I get that too [16:27] Jacki: it's really annoying [16:28] its not going away [16:28] i detached the dongle [16:28] didnt work [16:29] Jacki: it's got nothing to do with the keyboard, I suspect [16:29] Jacki: it does it here on three laptops and two desktops, different hardware [16:29] same symptom [16:29] ok [16:29] I will post it in the forum i guess [16:29] pretty buggy version 16.04 [16:30] meh [16:30] never had so many problems with ubuntu [16:30] the simple fix I found was to just not type my password in for a couple of seconds after booting [16:30] yeah ok [16:30] or taking it out of screensaver [16:30] thats a workaround [16:50] Hi is there any way I can get updated Flash to work on Chromium on an older laptop with ubuntu? [16:50] I couldn't find the pepper plug in in the application centre and it didn't seem to work after trying to manually install it [16:50] And Chrome browser was no longer supporting 32 bit [16:55] I usually use Firefox but I did download Chromium when I tried to install the pepper plug in with that, which I couldn't seem to find [17:15] flash is becoming deprecated, I beleive [17:21] I removed flash ages ago. [17:22] i think the end of flash was when apple removed it [17:22] couple years back [17:26] html5 video was the end of flash and rightly so. [17:47] mooot, its possible to get flash working, but i don't recommend it [17:47] flash is quite a security issue [17:55] Exactly why I removed it [18:26] anybody here [18:26] ? [18:27] ubuntu-mate: lots of people [18:27] ok tanx [18:27] ubuntu-mate: however, in the GMT-ish side of the world it's early evening and lovely and sunny out, and in the other side it's night time and everyone's probably in bed :-D [18:28] so ... [18:28] i have a laptop [18:28] with broken HDD [18:28] i search opereting system who run good linux os [18:29] what i try [18:29] install the os on the usb stick [18:29] but is too slow [18:29] slowly open the applications ant more than [18:29] too slow to install, or too slow to run? [18:30] slow to run any program [18:30] i mean,i need a os who can install on usb stick [18:30] INSTALL ! [18:31] not live usb [18:31] jkkkkkkkkkkkbvu666666opi dddddddddddddddddddddddddddddddddddddddddddddddd8e n# [18:31] what :D [18:31] * gordonjcp removes cat [18:31] :D:D:D [18:32] the good cat yeah [18:32] oh, you want to use the USB stick as the hard disk? [18:32] you can do that, but you need a really good quality USB stick [18:32] yeah [18:32] cheap ones will be slow [18:32] you can install from a normal bootable USB stick to the other USB stick, just make sure you've got them the right way round [18:32] yeah,but is not same,becouse usb stick have a limit to read [18:33] ok listen [18:33] well, flash has a limit on the number of writes [18:33] but you're unlikely to hit that for all but the cheapest nastiest USB sticks [18:33] are you have ideq how i can save setiings and profiles on live usb [18:33] did* [18:34] live os [18:37] ? [18:37] oooh, there used to be a way to do that [18:37] yeah [18:37] https://help.ubuntu.com/community/LiveCD/Persistence [18:38] ok,take a look now [18:39] looks good [18:39] ubuntu-mate: what kind of hard disk is it? SATA or PATA? [18:39] sata [18:39] too many badblocks [18:39] hello [18:39] you can get SATA-to-SD card adaptors for pennies these days [18:40] sata to SD [18:40] really [18:40] niiiiice [18:40] :D [18:41] did os accept the HDD [18:41] becouse for this moment OS dont acces the HDD [18:42] FATAL ERROR [18:45] Will Wine install & work ok on an old 386 netbook? [can't find in boutique & the man from apt-get says no] [18:46] [umate 16.04 i386] [18:53] it should [18:53] the man from apt-get says no? [19:01] i have a new question [19:02] did i make bad sectors in different partiton on hdd [19:03] ubuntu-mate: not unless you dropped it, hard [19:03] you won#t cause bad secttors by typing .. its not software [19:03] is reported by disk firmware [19:04] if you have them, they are marked, and not addressed [19:04] like minefields with flags on them [19:04] oh [19:04] how [19:04] disk firmware .. onboard software, on the disk [19:04] "firmware" [19:04] i tryed with fsck [19:05] thats the tool [19:05] to check [19:05] oh [19:05] i think is to repair [19:05] they don't ever get opened [19:05] Akuli: it says not found [19:05] if they're opened, they die [19:05] they contain gas [19:05] to work [19:05] ubuntu-mate: fsck will repair disks where the stuff written to them is a bit confused [19:05] [partner repo is enabled] [19:05] nomic: most don't, only air [19:06] k [19:06] apt-cache search wine [19:06] should give you plenty of results [19:06] wouldn't htink "air" [19:06] ok what i try to make [19:06] Akuli: thanks [19:07] "WD releases 6TB Ultrastar He6: The world's first helium-filled hard drive www.extremetech.com › Computing 4 Nov 2013 " [19:07] nomic: I don't think that's the first helium-filled hard disk [19:08] nomic: they were used a long time ago, for very, *very* specialised things [19:08] ok [19:08] is that before, or after, mercury delay lines [19:09] is it after williams tubes [19:09] Can someone recommend an alternative to pygame? [19:09] well I first saw them in the 1990s [19:10] I've heard that pygame is deprecated and it sucks. [19:10] oops wrong channel :) [19:10] Akuli: were you supposed to be trolling #pygame? ;-) [19:10] its not deprecated [19:10] it is widely used [19:11] nomic: they were quite expensive and went into big green crates of computing equipment that went onto big grey ships [19:11] was one of them the USS Eldridge? [19:11] no, #python [19:12] i was supposed to troll their way of saying that things suck and there's one right way, which is qt :) [19:12] by the way, qt sucks. especially for games. [19:12] http://linoxide.com/linux-how-to/how-to-fix-repair-bad-blocks-in-linux/ can help me that [19:12] qt is not for games .. its a widget set [19:12] you could make tiling games, I suppose [19:13] & have you tried vacuuming - that really sucks! [19:13] thats the funniest joke i've ever heard [19:13] no it's not [19:13] bad [19:15] ubuntu-mate - an issue that can be resolved in irc #ubuntu, far busier than here [19:15] more likely to get a drive expert there [19:16] may be easier tools to use than the one described in your article [19:16] buying a new [19:16] that is [19:17] * SuperEngineer has always wanted a new "that is" ;-) [19:17] drive isn't going to heal [19:18] bad sectors = on it's way out [19:18] yeah [19:18] i knooow [19:18] too much repaired PC`s [19:19] but now ,i want to resolve this [19:19] * nomic got old drives all over [19:19] they amass [19:19] must have 10 .. would probably be able to get together > 10 [19:19] sort of 80gb , 60gb, 120gb 160gb etc etc [19:20] laptop 2 inch drives [19:20] * nomic has thrown stuff away [19:20] * nomic reckon could put together mebbe 8 working pcs [19:20] v v old [19:20] no value [19:20] couple more since I replaced with raspberry pi 3ds [19:20] this is 320 GB [19:20] pi 3s [19:21] i need only 20 30 gb in partition [19:21] nothing more [19:21] this bad blocks [19:43] ugh [19:43] yo [19:43] is anyone online [19:44] I installed ubuntu mate 1604 and it works great, BUT i forgot to update my [19:44] BIOS on my laptop [19:44] it's an exe file [19:44] I don't want to reinstall windows to load it [19:44] then reinstall ubuntu mate again [19:44] is there a way to run an exe file in linux to flash my bios? [19:45] would get something like freedos to run it [19:45] sort of thing I used to put on a dos disk [19:46] boot the dos disk, run it .. nothing else running [19:46] I suppose that could work [19:46] wouldn't be sure something that low level, would execute to flash bios, through wine [19:46] because wine will run in it's own protected env. [19:46] it needs to run on the machine [19:46] wine = emulator, so no [19:47] or just grab a copy of dos [19:47] 6.22 is prolly all over the place [19:47] yeah, I will look it up and burn it to a cd [19:47] get it bootable, [19:47] you think upgrading your drives bios will resolve issues [19:47] why [19:48] no I don [19:48] oops [19:48] No, I don't have any issues, but I want the latest bios [19:48] mine is 14 versions old [19:49] I just flashed the bios on my DVD player a few days ago and now I can play some DVD's that were not working.... [19:49] so maybe there is some updates or patches for this PC that will improve some things.... [19:49] who knows [19:50] The only thing wrong with this laptop is that the batter will not charge at all... and the bios won't fix that. [19:50] battery [19:51] hi [19:52] howdy [19:53] How is the world treating everyone? [19:54] shitty, it's raining here [19:54] and my basement gets wet when it rains [19:55] bright and sunny, might hit 100 degrees here in the high desert (3800ft) [19:57] must be arizona [19:57] west texas [19:58] says it's only 89 in w. texas [19:58] https://weather.com/maps/ustemperaturemap [19:58] sorry, possible this weekend. June is hot as hell here. [19:59] I lived in San Antonio for a while... that heat sometimes hits you in the face hard when you go outside [19:59] 20C and sunny in Calgary... [20:00] i bet your skin pores are clean, for the humidity lol [20:00] well it's a little clammy in minnesota right now [20:01] Don't worry Calgary...no plans to invade Canada this year, maybe next year... [20:01] Apparently after this election, plenty of people are moving to canada [20:02] Are there alternatives to vote for? [20:02] Canada = no guns! [20:03] You can't have a gun in Canada? [20:03] kinda lame [20:03] How would you hunt? with a spear? [20:04] Hillery wants those guns! [20:05] well, she just represents the status quo.... so no change really with her [20:05] trump is a wild card, could be good, could be disaster [20:05] We don't mind guns, just not handguns and semi-automatics. Hunting rifles are okay with us... [20:05] The one that has made us laugh the most is the Canadian/US dating site, MapleMatch. [20:06] semi-automatics are not necessary, but I think handguns are ok [20:06] For those seeking Canadians and a reason to move to Canada. [20:06] My wife is a Minnesotan, from Elk River... [20:07] I know the place [20:07] just north of me by 20 minutes [20:07] Gun Control means never having to say... I missed you! [20:07] Pretty country... [20:07] maybe 30 minutes [20:07] well, the only thing that bothers me is that the goverment and police have them, so if it's okay for them, then it should be ok for the citizens as well. [20:08] if you want to ban guns, then ban them for everyone [20:08] Canada has breath-taking country. [20:08] does canada have socialized medicine? [20:09] It's just a different history and culture this side of the 49th. I don't think I have any perspective on the US issues. [20:10] It does, single payer type system. [20:11] if you make 100,000 per year in Canada, what do you have left after all your taxes are paid? [20:12] Depends on the province, taxes are less in the prairie provinces than Ontario and Quebec. It would be in the 30 to 40% range in Alberta [20:15] hmmm... Do you have property taxes? [20:16] Yep. [20:16] I guess I am just trying to figure out what the benefit to living in Canada would be vs. the U.S. or somewhere else like Europe (somewhere stable) [20:16] Average house in my community is around $3,000 per year CDN. [20:17] Hard to say. I've lived in the US and liked the area and the people. The job is what got me back to Canada. [20:17] I was just in the UK, and while wages were higher the cost of living was considerably higher as well. [20:18] I visited Paris a few years ago for 17 days, and housing in the city is crazy expensive [20:18] Yep, my experience as well. [20:19] hello [20:19] I program, so I can pretty much work from anywhere [20:19] I don't really care where I live, I would just like to find someplace less polluted. [20:19] Algún español o de habla hispana? [20:19] no say [20:19] Is there any way to use updated flash on an older laptop with ubuntu? I normally use firefox but I downloaded Chromium since Chrome isn't supporting 32 bit anymore. I heard to use the pepper plug in, but it wasn't in the application centre and it didn't seem to fix anything after I manually installed it [20:19] no ente endo [20:20] mooot, Not that I know of. Given that Adobe has abandoned Linux I think you're out of luck. [20:20] Hallo [20:21] Why would you want to use flash? I thought it was dying. [20:21] I don't visit sites that have flash... [20:21] Yeah, that's why I was trying to use some kind of Chrome browser since that's what most people are using that for flash, but I couldn't seem to find the plug in I needed to have it work with Chromium [20:21] I don't visit sites that use silverlight either [20:23] You can't put 64-bit mate on your older laptop? I run it on mine and it works just fine. [20:23] I need help please [20:23] I have an old HP pavilion g4 [20:23] Well when I tried to it wouldn't work [20:23] There was some kind of error [20:23] user, That's one of things that I like about Southern Alberta. Pretty, weather is okay for the most part, lots of parks and such near by. [20:23] for mine, I had to install ubuntu mate 15.1 64bit [20:24] then run the software updater to 16.04 [20:24] I uograde to Ubuntu Mate 16 and now i can,t install nothing [20:24] download software center [20:24] miguel [20:25] good bye [20:25] I try all [20:25] system>administration>software botique [20:26] MORE SOFTWARE>SOFTWARE [20:26] then install it. [20:28] What kind of job would bring you back to Canada? [20:28] okey [20:28] thank you very much [20:28] you are welcome [20:30] I am going to go play a little TeamFortress2 mordoc, see you later. [20:31] installArchives() failed: Selecting previously unselected package libappstream3:i386. [20:33] hello [20:35] after installation of ubuntu mate there is no splashscreen during startup. is it normal? i see such screen during shutdown. [21:50] hmm [21:50] suspending a laptop, swapping its hard drive, and powering back up is, uhm [21:50] yeah, think I'll just reboot and fsck, there [23:15] pregunta [23:16] somebody speak spanish_ [23:16] _