[00:08] <John[Lisbeth]> what's a good package to virtualize an iso to a server distro and get into the repl from the shell
[00:09] <John[Lisbeth]> I know there's a non gui version of virtual box but I don't want to install x with it
[00:28] <sarnold> John[Lisbeth]: virsh can do a ton of those things but it's a bit annoying. check out this front end that's a bit easier to work with and doesn't force you to use isos as a nice benefit :) https://help.ubuntu.com/lts/serverguide/cloud-images-and-uvtool.html
[00:40] <keithzg> sarnold: That command does look pretty neat; does it play nicely with virsh, however? As in, is it all just being handled by libvirt in the backend and so one could pop back and forth between using virsh and uvtool (and virt-manager) without any complications?
[00:41] <sarnold> keithzg: I'd expect it to play nicely, yes
[00:48] <keithzg> sarnold: Cool cool. I'll have to keep that in mind for next time I create a new VM here at work, rather than installing from an ISO. For now though it's Friday and there isn't a cloud I can see in the sky, so I should probably just get out of the office already ;)
[00:48] <sarnold> keithzg: smart :)
[01:05] <b4r> has anyone been success with server as ldap for network logins?
[01:06] <b4r> or Active Directory
[01:08] <therealtbe> keyboard does not work on install language selection screen;  ubuntu 14.04 server;   keyboard works on bios and grub menus;  in installer keyboard lights not on (numlock capslock)
[01:09] <b4r> therealtbe: install 16.04 lts?
[01:09] <therealtbe> thanks for the alternative task suggestion
[01:09] <therealtbe> however I would like to complete this task not the one you suggested
[01:10] <b4r> ok
[01:10] <therealtbe> how do I make the installer recognize the keyboard
[01:10] <sarnold> therealtbe: maybe try a different 14.04 image? there's several to choose from https://wiki.ubuntu.com/Releases
[01:10] <patdk-lap> never ever had that problem
[01:11] <patdk-lap> exactly what is the keyboard? and how is it connected?
[01:11] <patdk-lap> sometimes ipmi/kvm things get funny
[01:11] <therealtbe> I have tried with two different usb keyboards
[01:11] <therealtbe> the keyboards are fine
[01:11] <therealtbe> the keyboards work on other computers
[01:11] <therealtbe> the keyboards work in bios and grub
[01:11] <patdk-lap> but neither of those two use linux usb drivers
[01:11] <patdk-lap> they use the bios usb drivers
[01:12] <therealtbe> ok is there a kernel parameter to use bios usb drivers
[01:13] <b4r> therealtbe: md5sum of the image was confirmed upon download? re: sarnold's idea to use another image
[01:13] <therealtbe> okay I will do this;  but I have a feeling I will be back.
[01:16] <b4r> therealtbe: sure, faulty images are not common. just an idea tho
[01:16] <b4r> even if md5s match
[01:17] <sarnold> I know some images had troubles with keyboards
[01:17] <sarnold> it was years ago and I didn't think it affected 14.04
[01:18] <sarnold> but it's easy to check a different image
[01:19] <newbsie> How can one specify mailfrom in logwatch on the command line? If I don't want to configure .conf files.....
[01:28] <JanC> therealtbe: you could try to enable or disable "USB legacy" support in the BIOS (toggle from whatever it was to the other)
[01:28] <sarnold> good idea
[01:29] <patdk-lap> shouldn't matter though
[01:29] <patdk-lap> would affect usb keyboard for grub but shouldn't for linux
[01:29] <JanC> it shouldn't, but sometimes it does
[01:29] <patdk-lap> :)
[01:30] <patdk-lap> someone should setup ip's for these servers
[01:30] <patdk-lap> I just so don't feel like it
[01:30] <JanC> and I'm pretty sure that indicates a broken BIOS/firmware, but...
[01:30] <sarnold> patdk-lap: it
[01:31] <sarnold> patdk-lap: it's gotta be something like ten thirty on a friday night for you, right?
[01:31] <patdk-lap> 9:30
[01:31] <patdk-lap> I plan to install these two new zfs dovecot servers tomorrow morning :)
[01:31] <sarnold> ahhhhhhh
[01:32] <patdk-lap> 28tb usable
[01:32] <sarnold> what layout?
[01:32] <patdk-lap> 3way mirrors
[01:32] <sarnold> niiiiiice
[01:33] <sarnold> are these in a redundant/ha sort of configuration?
[01:33] <patdk-lap> not needed
[01:33] <patdk-lap> dovecot will self replicate
[01:34] <sarnold> really? cool
[01:36] <patdk-lap> something like this
[01:36] <patdk-lap> http://www.dovecot.org/img/dsync-director-replication.png
[01:36] <patdk-lap> except in my case, no nfs
[01:39] <sarnold> that looks pretty slick :)
[01:43] <patdk-lap> been using most of that now, directory really helps a lot
[01:44] <patdk-lap> turned that on a few years ago
[01:44] <patdk-lap> but never thought to go the storage way till now
[01:45] <patdk-lap> oh, almost forgot :)
[01:45] <patdk-lap> I wonder if I have network cables
[01:45] <sarnold> are you tripling the backend? or .. replacing an existing storage?
[01:46] <patdk-lap> I will be replacing
[01:46] <patdk-lap> current system only has 9tb
[01:46] <patdk-lap> it's at 7tb full
[01:46] <sarnold> will dovecot just dsync everything other transparently? or do you have to move things by hand?
[01:47] <patdk-lap> both
[01:47] <patdk-lap> for the most part, it will move it all over
[01:47] <patdk-lap> I'll just have to run dovecots basically rsync command
[01:47] <patdk-lap> change my directors to use the new servers
[01:47] <patdk-lap> then do it once more
[01:48] <sarnold> heh, 7tb... I hope you've got 10G NICs? :)
[01:48] <patdk-lap> I do
[01:48] <sarnold> yay
[01:49] <patdk-lap> thinking I'm going do lacp 2 ports to the switches from each
[01:49] <sarnold> oooooo
[01:49] <patdk-lap> then two more directly connected between them
[01:49] <patdk-lap> almost went with 40gig for that, but I don't need that speed
[01:50] <patdk-lap> and this way I am protected from a nic failure
[01:50] <sarnold> your new systems sure feel like they could injest that quickly but I'd be surprised if your old ones can read _that_ fast :)
[01:50] <patdk-lap> old ones are maildir
[01:50] <patdk-lap> I want to use mdbox for these so badly
[01:50] <sarnold> 10G, sure, 20G... maybe? 30G or 40G probably not..
[01:51] <patdk-lap> but when customers ask to recover email for them, maildir makes that *so* simple
[01:51] <patdk-lap> oh, something I should file a bug report on :)
[01:51] <sarnold> I've wondered about that. On the one hand, maildir means N syscalls _per email_, which feels way wasteful. But not having to parse things also feels like a huge win.
[01:51] <patdk-lap> was fixed most everywhere else
[01:52] <patdk-lap> but the new interfaces file just uses interfaces.d/*
[01:52] <patdk-lap> really should be *.conf
[01:52] <patdk-lap> to keep it from being screwed with .bak ~ and whatever files
[01:52] <patdk-lap> I don't care about syscalls
[01:52] <patdk-lap> it's more the inodes that kill it
[01:55] <sarnold> "This means that it's possible to move older mails that are rarely accessed to cheaper (slower) storage. " that's cool
[01:55] <patdk-lap> yes
[07:32] <Xin> Howdy gang
[07:39] <Xin> sooo
[07:39] <Xin> I have this weird idea just for a fun project
[07:39] <Xin> im going to use 2x USB 3 hubs with 2x4 1tb thumb drives that I have lying around
[07:40] <Xin> and make it into like, a raid 10 of 2 raid 1's or somesuch
[07:40] <Xin> get a couple of tb running at like 200mb/s, out of spare parts
[07:40] <Xin> xD
[10:19] <Guest_85757> Allah is doing
[10:20] <Guest_85757> sun is not doing Allah is doing
[10:20] <Guest_85757> moon is not doing Allah is doing
[10:21] <Guest_85757> stars are not doing Allah is doing
[10:21] <Guest_85757> planets are not doing Allah is doing
[10:22] <Guest_85757> galaxies are not doing Allah is doing
[10:22] <Guest_85757> oceans are not doing Allah is doing
[10:23] <Guest_85757> mountains are not doing Allah is doing
[10:23] <Guest_85757> trees are not doing Allah is doing
[10:23] <Guest_85757> mom is not doing Allah is doing
[10:24] <Guest_85757> dad is not doing Allah is doing
[10:24] <Guest_85757> boss is not doing Allah is doing
[10:25] <Guest_85757> job is not doing Allah is doing
[10:25] <Guest_85757> dollar is not doing Allah is doing
[10:25] <Guest_85757> degree is not doing Allah is doing
[10:26] <RoyK> !op Guest_85757
[10:26] <RoyK> perhaps an op should kick Guest_85757 in the arse
[10:39] <Xin> hi all
[10:40] <Xin> I have a domain name pointing to a vps
[10:40] <Xin> I have installed postfix on there and just have an a record for my dns
[10:41] <Xin> I need to add an mx record to get it accepting mail, no?
[10:41] <RoyK> no, but you need an mx record for email servers to forward email to it
[10:50] <Xin> lol well thats fairly important xD
[10:51] <Xin> it seems kind of silly that it wouldnt just try the domain name?
[11:00] <RoyK> Xin: just register an MX - it's not very hard ;)
[11:01] <masuberu> hi all
[11:01] <masuberu> I am having issues trying to ssh to my new ubuntu server
[11:02] <masuberu> I just installed ubuntu 12.4.5
[11:02] <masuberu> I can see the ssh_config file but I am not sure if the service is running
[11:02] <masuberu> how can I check that?
[11:04] <masuberu> what is the name of ssh server on Ubuntu 12.4.5?
[11:11] <Xin> RoyK; hmm
[11:11] <Xin> http://mxtoolbox.com/SuperTool.aspx?action=mx%3ayouwillrememberthis.xyz&run=toolpage#
[11:11] <Xin> All set up and testing ok
[11:11] <Xin> but still perminently fails sending from gmail
[11:33] <RoyK> Xin: youwillrememberthis.xyz. 1800	IN	MX	1 youwillrememberthis.xyz.
[11:33] <RoyK> looks good so far
[11:33] <RoyK> Xin: negative caching in place, probably - wait an hour
[11:33] <Xin> yeah but trying to send it mail doesnt work ;<<
[11:34] <RoyK> to which email address? I could try
[11:34] <Xin> inbox@youwillrememberthis.xyz should be up
[11:35] <RoyK> Xin: telnet: Unable to connect to remote host: No route to host
[11:36] <RoyK> that's from a test with telnet youwillrememberthis.xyz 25
[11:36] <RoyK> dang
[11:36] <RoyK> sorry - worked well from outside my network - ISP blocking 25/tcp
[11:39] <Xin> xD
[11:46] <Xin> sent another about 5 mins ago, no failure message yet
[11:46] <Xin> or at all for 40 mins
[11:48] <RoyK> did you get my email?
[11:51] <masuberu> why is this tasksel: aptitude failed (100)??
[11:51] <masuberu> im using 12.4.5
[11:52] <masuberu> fresh installation
[11:52] <masuberu> and why apt-get is not installing dependencies?
[11:56] <Xin> RoyK; Hahah I found it!
[11:57] <Xin> and mine are working now
[11:57] <Xin> how grand
[11:57] <Xin> thanks bud
[11:58] <Xin> now I just need to set up rsync and im good to go
[12:22] <RoyK> Xin: good :)
[12:23] <Xin> Just a random other thingy
[12:23] <Xin> I want to run a headless gdm/xdm/kdm/whatever
[12:23] <RoyK> the don't install the desktop part
[12:23] <Xin> so I can remote in graphically
[12:23] <RoyK> or uninstall it
[12:23] <Xin> is that a thing?
[12:24] <Xin> or should I just use vnc
[12:24] <Xin> or something
[12:24] <RoyK> I juse use ssh
[12:24] <Xin> I thought if I had a local gdm or whatever and connected to the remote server
[12:24] <Xin> Id get much better performance
[12:24] <RoyK> remote x works well
[12:24] <Xin> like using remote desktop on windows instead of vnc
[12:25] <RoyK> just ssh in and start whatever x program you want
[12:25] <RoyK> what OS do you have on the client?
[12:27] <Xin> it will be ubuntu to ubuntu
[12:27] <RoyK> ssh myhost
[12:27] <RoyK> should do it
[12:28] <RoyK> just run something like xeyes for a test
[12:28] <RoyK> google remove gui ubuntu - it's a simple apt-get remove thing
[16:48] <YamakasY> I know TransIP has a BIG issue now
[17:11] <JanC> YamakasY: what?
[18:21] <YamakasY> JanC: they based some dropbox on it
[18:23] <JanC> you mean Stack?
[18:24] <JanC> does it even work on Ubuntu/Linux?
[18:25] <YamakasY> JanC: yep
[18:25] <YamakasY> JanC: why not ?
[18:25] <JanC> I mean, work as a filesystem or something
[18:28] <JanC> seems like they support WebDAV
[18:30] <xevious> Is it possible to enable SSH and add apt sources in the Ubuntu Server install environment? Alternatively, can I start an Ubuntu Server installation using the Ubuntu Desktop Live ISO?
[18:31] <JanC> YamakasY: not sure why they have a big issue (unless you wonder how they will pay for it too)
[18:32] <OerHeks> xevious, answer1: no, server has no live environment to setup ssh, and 2nd a: never done such server install from a desktop iso
[18:33] <xevious> OerHeks: I'm trying to follow this tutorial, but I'd prefer to have a minimal server installation and not have to go through and remove all the desktop stuff. https://github.com/zfsonlinux/zfs/wiki/Ubuntu-16.04-Root-on-ZFS
[18:37] <OerHeks> use the server iso then?
[18:38] <OerHeks> i am good in making problems that are not there too :-D
[18:42] <xevious> OerHeks: The server ISO is an extremely minimal environment. apt and dpkg don't even exist in it. It's got udpkg, so I'm mashing at stuff with it until something happens.
[18:46] <JanC> I think you should be able to use the desktop live CD to do a minimal install using debootstrap
[18:47] <JanC> or from the server installer CD too maybe
[18:49] <xevious> I've almost got dpkg and apt working in the server ISO environment.
[20:03] <YamakasY> JanC: they depend on it as they changed it to their own needs
[20:03] <YamakasY> so they run FOSS
[20:06] <JanC> running on FOSS doesn't make you open
[20:12] <xevious> After poking at it for a while, it doesn't seem like adding dpkg, APT, and ZFS to the server ISO is the way to go. I'm going to install using the desktop ISO and then pare it down to a server install.
[20:33] <ztane> supervisord not autostarting on 16.04 :?
[22:54] <devster31> can I safely run badblocks on a partition without deleting data?
[23:21] <OerHeks> bad blocks are known to grow, so i guess the answer is no.
[23:21] <OerHeks> or is badblocks some sort of program?
[23:21] <Xin>  hai all
[23:29] <devster31> badblocks is /sbin/badblocks
[23:30] <devster31> from e2fsprogs
[23:50] <OerHeks> devster31, oh oke, sure you run it with cron or just a script > SeijiSensei  2012, 08:37 http://ubuntuforums.org/archive/index.php/t-2090773.html
[23:57] <teward> just to reconfirm my understanding of rsync, 'rsync src dest' will sync data from source -> destination, under what conditions?  If there's no difference in last-mod time on destination, where source is a pattern that includes, oh, 80 files?
[23:59] <tarpman> teward: from the second paragraph of DESCRIPTION in the man page: "files that have changed in size or in last-modified time"
[23:59] <BlenderPro> is there a way to make nano show the full path on the title bar and not just the file name
[23:59] <teward> tarpman: i don't have the manpage in front of me, thanks