[00:00] <tpw_rules> looked in synaptic and it wanted some package downgraded. did that and it's happy
[00:15] <catopett> Hi folks, i am looking for howto make a DOS .com-file to readable .c-file, that means to re-enginer a file that is made in TURBO C
[00:16] <catopett> Hi folks, i am looking for howto make a DOS .com-file to readable .c-file, that means to re-enginer a file that is made in TURBO C
[00:21] <W00dP3ck3r> catopett, google for TurboC decompiler
[00:21] <W00dP3ck3r> Also,. this is an Ubuntu forum, not programming. Please search for the appropriate channel, thanks
[00:30] <jason_> will the startup disk creator work for a windows ISO?
[00:32] <mattgyver> jason_, you mean like to create a Windows installation disk?
[00:32] <jason_> yeah
[00:32] <jason_> it looks like it doesn't work
[00:33] <mattgyver> jason_, I really doubt it you may want to look into unetbootin (or something similar I think there is something that replaced it)
[00:33] <uRock> jason_, it pretty much only works with ubuntu
[00:34] <mattgyver> jason_, look into 'winusb' it looks like its right up your alley
[00:34] <mattgyver> http://goo.gl/1CSdgg
[00:35] <jason_> I'm going to try unetbootin. The name seems familiar. I think I've used it before.
[00:36] <mattgyver> jason_, it doesn't look like unetbootin is going to support the bootloader
[00:36] <mattgyver> jason_, but feel free to give it a shot
[00:36] <mattgyver> jason_, I only did some really fast googling on the topic so I am no expert on the topic
[00:37] <jason_> I saw that but the "warning this could make your system unbootable" thing kind of scared me. I have no idea what EFI/UEFI is.
[00:38] <R13ose> I have tried to use MP4Box to combine the videos and this does but messes up in the middle for some reason.  Any ideas?
[00:38] <mattgyver> jason_, you really run that risk anytime your fooling with this stuff.  EFI/UEFI are BIOS security features.  If your install goes wrong you are not going to own a brick you will just find that the system your attempting to install on wont boot and you will just reinstall the bootloader
[00:39] <jason_> but this sounds like installing winusb poses this risk
[00:39] <mattgyver> jason_, all that tool is going to do on your local system is generate the USB media for you from the ISO thats all, its your source system its talking about because say its already got an OS on it well it could very well pooch something
[00:39] <jason_> not the actual installation
[00:39] <mattgyver> jason_, oh ill look again maybe I didn't catch that - thats really odd if thats the case
[00:40] <jason_> "Warning for Ubuntu EFI: installing WinUSB on EFI loaded Ubuntu will uninstall the grub-efi packages in order to install the grub-pc packages. It will make your system unbootable if you don't manually reinstall grub-efi package before rebooting."
[00:40] <xenial-user2> test
[00:40] <xenial-user2> nice
[00:41] <Bashing-om> !uefi | jason_
[00:41] <mattgyver> jason_, yeah I see that now.  On your system what is the output for 'Installation' when you run; sudo apt-cache policy grub-efi
[00:41] <mattgyver> jason_, sorry I meant 'Installed'
[00:42] <xenial-user2> !xenial | Bashing-on
[00:42] <xenial-user2> haha :D
[00:45] <Cyber_Akuma-Ubun> I have a 144hz screen and am trying to set my refresh above 60hz, but xrandr keeps saying that 144 or 119.98 is not supported even though it listed those as avaliable refresh rates
[00:45] <pvsharov> !trusty
[00:45] <jason_> It really makes no sense to me that a tool for creating a bootable usb disk needs to modify my operating system in a way that potentially makes it inoperable.
[00:46] <mattgyver> jason_, its because basically if you already have those packages installed it needs to remove them to grab some packages it needs which wont be installed if you have htem
[00:46] <mattgyver> If that output returns "Installed: none" then your golden because your not using those.  If it does then you just need to execute; sudo apt-get install grub-efi   when you are finished installing winusb
[00:46] <mattgyver> jason_, though the usual proceed with caution
[00:47] <Cyber_Akuma-Ubun> is xrandr the only way to set my screen refresh rate?
[00:48] <OerHeks> jason_, winusb is not an official app anyway
[00:48] <mattgyver> jason_, I don't know what your rig is like but you could always spin up Virtualbox to bring up a VM to run winusb in and do the dirty work there too
[00:51] <jason_> oh that's a good idea. I'll do that.
[00:52] <mattgyver> jason_, yeah give that a shot and here is another article with a video though its hard to say how current it is; http://goo.gl/zA8WfK
[00:56] <guonw> #alictf
[00:56] <R13ose> Any ideas on my question?
[00:57] <xenial-user> hi R13ose
[00:58] <R13ose> xenial-user: hi
[01:03] <OerHeks> R13ose, maybe you can give more info?
[01:03] <R13ose> OerHeks: which info?
[01:04] <xenial-user> stupid pieces do not fit: http://oi63.tinypic.com/2zdnlvp.jpg
[01:05] <xenial-user> hahah
[01:05] <OerHeks> who can answer "I have tried to use MP4Box to combine the videos and this does but messes up in the middle for some reason. '??
[01:05] <xenial-user> I use ffmpeg
[01:06] <xenial-user> but commands are tricky
[01:06] <OerHeks> in the middle of the screen, between mpegs, all same format/framerate?
[01:07] <OerHeks> some of us are blind and cannot see your screen
[01:07] <R13ose> Inbetween the videos, this shows the first video again and the start of the second video are both messed up.
[01:08] <therealtbe> keyboard does not work on install language selection screen;  ubuntu 14.04 server;   keyboard works on bios and grub menus;  in installer keyboard lights not on (numlock capslock)
[01:10] <cha2> hello
[01:11] <xenial-user> hello cha2
[01:11] <R13ose> If I upload the files to dropbox would someone else be able to combine the videos and send me a file to download?
[01:12] <Ben64> R13ose: way beyond the scope of this channel
[01:12] <R13ose> Okay sorry
[01:14] <cha2> k
[01:20] <mattgyver> therealtbe, check the bios and see if USB legacy mode is enabled.  I had a simliar issue in the past and that was my issue.
[01:24] <HansProleman> hello all, i'm running 16.04 on a hp compaq mini 311c and my wired network isn't working :x
[01:25] <mattgyver> HansProleman, is your wireless or are you on a different system right now?
[01:25] <HansProleman> different system, wireless not working either but a separate problem :p
[01:27] <mattgyver> HansProleman, so starting with the obvious questions just to chase down the right thing has it ever worked, also have you tried a different cable?
[01:27] <HansProleman> it's never worked. not tried a different cable, but have tried another laptop with same cable and worked okay
[01:28] <mattgyver> HansProleman, okay cool so we at least know the cable is good so that is out of the way.  Have you ever seen any activity lights on the ports?
[01:28] <cha> test
[01:28] <tem> does the device show up with ifconfig
[01:28] <tem> should be eth0 usually
[01:30] <HansProleman> enp0s10?
[01:31] <pvsharov> HansProleman: check speed an duplex
[01:31] <tem> that might be it.. i forgot they get renamed now due to udev .....
[01:31] <HansProleman> there are activity lights mattgyver
[01:32] <tem> nice so the device seems to have been detected
[01:32] <mattgyver> HansProleman, good deal
[01:32] <tem> so its probibly a networking issue
[01:32] <mattgyver> HansProleman, tem, yeah I would agree
[01:32] <tem> run dhclient
[01:32] <tem> and then try to ping google.com
[01:33] <tem> ( im drawing on general linux knowledge, not specific ubuntu knowledge.)
[01:33] <mattgyver> tem, yeah that may work if its just a dhcp issue though it wont be persistent because its likely using a NetworkManager configuration
[01:33] <tem> right
[01:33] <HansProleman> sudo dhclient, ping www.google.com?
[01:34] <tem> yea two seperate commands
[01:34] <HansProleman> doesn't seem to be returning anything
[01:34] <mattgyver> HansProleman, yeah try that first just as a quick fix.  Then tell me what the status of this output is; sudo service NetworkManager status  so we can determine if thats the daemon your using.  It should say something like active(running)
[01:34] <tem> if for some reason you dhcp diddnt work when it booted, dhclient will re-request a lease. and then when you ping google it should return something.
[01:35] <tem> what mattgyver said :>
[01:35] <HansProleman> is indeed active (running)
[01:36] <HansProleman> ah thanks for the explanation tem
[01:36] <mattgyver> Cool, whats the output of this command; ls /etc/NetworkManager/system-connections/ | wc -l
[01:36] <tem> i assume you have dhcp lol.. but thats a pretty reasonable assumption
[01:36] <mattgyver> HansProleman, I just wanna get a feel for how many configs you have and then we can figure out which one to look at
[01:37] <pvsharov> HansProleman: try to set port on your network device you connected to speed in 10mb/s
[01:37] <HansProleman> mattgyver, 1
[01:37] <mattgyver> Perfect, one sec gonna ask you to paste something in pastebin
[01:37] <HansProleman> okay sure
[01:37] <mattgyver> HansProleman, cd into this directory; /etc/NetworkManager/system-connections
[01:38] <mattgyver> just do a quick ls and tell me if you have any files in there
[01:38] <HansProleman> just Auto Ethernet mattgyver
[01:39] <mattgyver> Perfect, can you; sudo gedit /etc/NetworkManager/system-connections/* and then paste that text into pastebin so we can see how NM is configured?
[01:39] <HansProleman> sure, give me a minute to transfer it haha
[01:40] <mattgyver> Cool should hopefully be a copy paste, if you want change to mod the IP's so we don't know them thats cool if you setup a static config
[01:40] <HansProleman> i'm not too bothered, i meant b/c i need to find a usb stick :p
[01:41] <mattgyver> HansProleman, Ohhhh okay I gotcha.  There is probably a better method to go about this but at least this way were not driving blind trying to help.
[01:41] <kshenoy> Anyone tried installing rxvt-unicode on Ubuntu 16.04?
[01:42] <kshenoy> I get an error saying it has unmet dependencies. It requires libperl5.20 which is not installable
[01:44] <mattgyver> kshenoy, can you maybe paste the output of 'sudo apt-get install libperl5.20' into the pastebin just so we can get a better look?
[01:45] <kshenoy> mattgyver: http://paste.ubuntu.com/16971822/
[01:45] <kshenoy> 16.04 has libperl5.22 package which is already installaed
[01:45] <pvsharov> why you don't want to check for simple network problem?
[01:46] <HansProleman> mattgyver, http://pastebin.com/VTzAT5yd
[01:47] <mattgyver> HansProleman, thanks ill check it out
[01:47] <pvsharov> such a speed and duplex incapabiliti between NIC and router
[01:49] <mattgyver> kshenoy, looks like it was deleted.  I am not running 16.04 does this return any results; sudo apt-cache search libperl5
[01:49] <motaka2> hello i have installed jdk8 with netbeans8 together, although netbeans compiles in jdk8 , but java version says i am using java 1.7 , i know the path to new jdk is /usr/local/jdk1.8.0_91   but i doth know to which folder it should point
[01:50] <kshenoy> mattgyver: Pasted output of search: http://paste.ubuntu.com/16971960/
[01:51] <mattgyver> HansProleman, perform an ifconfig and let me know if the MAC listed in there matches the MAC address for any of your active adapters (maybe the enp one)
[01:53] <HansProleman> yeah enp0s10 matches
[01:53] <HansProleman> the mask is given as 255.255.0.0, whereas my win pc uses 255.255.255.0, could that be relevant?
[01:53] <mattgyver> HansProleman, yup change it and see what happens
[01:54] <mattgyver> kshenoy, I have two options for you.  1) Try installing that 5.22 version.  2) try installing the .deb listed here under Downloadable files https://launchpad.net/ubuntu/xenial/s390x/libperl5.20/5.20.2-6
[01:55] <pvsharov> HansProleman: if you obtain ip liki 192.168.1.* you must change mask for 255.255.255.0
[01:56] <HansProleman> sorry, change the mask where? in manually defined ipv4?
[01:56] <pvsharov> HansProleman: yeh
[01:56] <mattgyver> HansProleman, sorry make the change within Network manager itself
[01:57] <mattgyver> HansProleman, the config file was just the best way for me to physically see what you have going on without having to guess
[01:57] <HansProleman> okay, will do
[01:57] <nu11a> leave
[01:57] <pvsharov> will be better if you show ipconfig on windows machine
[01:58] <mattgyver> HansProleman, it looks like to me you have it setup as auto which is actually DHCP though
[01:58] <mattgyver> HansProleman, still try this however.
[01:59] <kshenoy> mattgyver: Umm, the architecture for the deb files doesn't match
[01:59] <kshenoy> It's for s390x. I'm running amd64
[01:59] <mattgyver> oh okay, yeah try the 5.22 then its what replaces 5.20
[02:00] <ron__> arf ubuntu turn the screen off after a sleeping computer :x
[02:00] <HansProleman> mattgyver, ifconfig now shows mask as 255.255.255.0, and network manager icon suggests i'm connected, but can't ping google
[02:01] <HansProleman> config is identical to windows ipconfig save for ip
[02:01] <obi1> obi4u
[02:01] <kshenoy> mattgyver: I already have 5.22 installed
[02:03] <mattgyver> HansProleman, okay open up Network Manager and select Edit on the Auto Ethernet connection then go to the IPv4 Settings tab and tell me what the 'Method' dropdown is set to
[02:03] <pvsharov> HansProleman: what ip address you obtain on windows?
[02:03] <HansProleman> mattgyver, manual
[02:03] <motaka2> i have installed jdk8 with netbeans8 together, although netbeans compiles in jdk8 , but java version says i am using java 1.7 , i know the path to new jdk is /usr/local/jdk1.8.0_91   but i doth know to which folder it should point
[02:03] <HansProleman> 192.168.1.183, though i've checked the one i was using for manual was in range
[02:04] <mattgyver> HansProleman, and the gateway matches the routers IP?
[02:04] <HansProleman> yeah :x
[02:04] <mattgyver> HansProleman, since your not actively connected on that sytem try this; sudo service NetworkManager restart
[02:04] <Bashing-om> HansProleman: Isolate to a DNS issue ? What results from ' ping -c3 8.8.8.8 ' ?
[02:04] <pvsharov> HansProleman: it's correct mask for this ip. Check default gateway's ip. There must be router's ip
[02:05] <Keitaro> is there any people still alive ?
[02:05] <Keitaro> i have some pb with my bash personalization plz
[02:06] <HansProleman> Bashing-om, unreachable
[02:06] <mattgyver> kshenoy, sorry im still looking to see if I can find the right package arch type but its not looking like there is one suggesting the only way to install may be from source (from what I can tell but I am not certain)
[02:06] <mattgyver> Hans, can you even ping your router?
[02:06] <mattgyver> like, 192.168.1.1 or whatever
[02:07] <Bashing-om> HansProleman: K; :( .. ping your router by IP for the router ?
[02:07] <mattgyver> HansProleman, ^^ sorry that was for you
[02:07] <warnning3> warning
[02:08] <pvsharov> Hans ProBleman ))))
[02:08] <HansProleman> pinging the router, i get unreachable with both auto ethernet and manually defined ipv4
[02:08] <warnning3> what?
[02:08] <HansProleman> haha pvsharov
[02:08] <mattgyver> kshenoy, this is all I can find https://launchpad.net/ubuntu/xenial/amd64/libperl5.20/5.20.2-6
[02:09] <HadesWatch3r> What is the latest kernel for 14.04.04 LTS
[02:09] <Keitaro> i modify my bashrc file like that http://paste.ofcode.org/TCbnFcaSAYyrBze9zqJh3x
[02:09] <pvsharov> HansProleman: what router model you use?
[02:10] <mattgyver> kshenoy, I honestly have no clue if that is going to cause any conflict with existing packages
[02:10] <HansProleman> it's a uh *ahem* bt home hub 5
[02:10] <Keitaro> and i don't understand why when i write long commands that the commands instead to go to the next line it roll on my PS1 at the begining of my command
[02:10] <Keitaro> if someone can help me plz ^^
[02:10] <mattgyver> HansProleman, stupid question how many ethernet ports does this sytem have just the one?
[02:10] <Keitaro> sorry for the hl someone
[02:11] <HansProleman> just the one, it's a lil netbook
[02:11] <pvsharov> how much pins on port it have? 4 or 8?
[02:11] <HansProleman> 8
[02:11] <mattgyver> HansProleman, okay thanks
[02:11] <kshenoy> mattgyver: Only 1 way to find out :P
[02:12] <mattgyver> HansProleman, whtas the output of route -n
[02:12] <pvsharov> HansProleman: 8 pins?
[02:12] <mattgyver> rather, do you have a line that kinda looks like; 0.0.0.0    <router IP > 0.0.0.0  UG
[02:12] <kshenoy> mattgyver: *sigh* Yeah, libperl depends on perl-base 5.20
[02:13] <mattgyver> kshenoy, I imagine there is someway to install this along side though its probably going to be a manual process as you will have to compile it from source and link it unfortunately.  At least thats the impression I am getting.
[02:15] <mattgyver> kshenoy, kinda like this guy details here; http://stackoverflow.com/questions/1289564/how-should-i-install-more-than-one-version-of-perl it is going to be a bigger chore I bet
[02:17] <HansProleman> mattgyver, yes but the mask for that row shows as 0.0.0.0
[02:17] <HansProleman> flags UG
[02:18] <pvsharov> HansProleman: ok. I go Away. Just try to check what I told you about
[02:19] <HansProleman> it is indeed an 8 pin ethernet port
[02:19] <nginxsta> is there a way to remove the top two packages here http://paste.ubuntu.com/16972661/ without messing up the 3rd nginx-full installation?
[02:20] <pvsharov> HansProleman: try to connect to another port
[02:20] <mattgyver> HansProleman, so that entire line is all zeros?
[02:21] <pvsharov> or directly to router
[02:21] <mattgyver> HansProleman, sorry misunderstood yeah those zeros for the mask sound right.  As long as the number between is your routers IP.
[02:23] <prince> hello
[02:23] <warnning3> hello
[02:23] <prince> anyone aware of the www-data exploit?
[02:23] <HansProleman> mattgyver, yes both zeros except for correct gateway ip
[02:23] <prince> Where someone is able to login to your vps? or some shit
[02:23] <prince> or is that apache/php related
[02:24] <pvsharov> HansProleman: seems like your nic is dead
[02:24] <HansProleman> possible
[02:24] <mattgyver> HansProleman, What does it say for iface in that column for route
[02:25] <HansProleman> mattgyver, enp0s10 as expected
[02:25] <mattgyver> Run this command and tell me if you see your interface listed in there along with the correct mac address; cat /etc/udev/rules.d/70-persistent-net.rules
[02:25] <pvsharov> Bye!
[02:26] <mattgyver> There should be a line that starts with SUBSYSTEM="net" and ends with NAME="enp0s10"
[02:26] <mattgyver> HansProleman, ^sorry
[02:26] <Bashing-om> HansProleman: To check your card and host ' ping -c3 127.0.0.1 ' .
[02:28] <mattgyver> HansProleman, its very important that your MAC in that file matches what ifconfig states it is - and unless something goofy was done it should.
[02:28] <HansProleman> Bashing-om, that pings fine
[02:29] <Bashing-om> HansProleman: :) card is good then :) .
[02:29] <HansProleman> mattgyver, that returned no such file or dir
[02:30] <mattgyver> Thats interesting.  What version of Ubuntu are you using?
[02:30] <mattgyver> HansProleman, (if you don't know offhand, cat /etc/lsb-release)
[02:31] <HansProleman> 16.04 LTS
[02:31] <HansProleman> poss i made a typo
[02:31] <HansProleman> doesn't look like it
[02:32] <mattgyver> Anyone else on 16.04 and can confirm that file exists on their system?  I am on 15.04 and generally its always available on debian systems.
[02:33] <HansProleman> could it be relevant that if i check the config in network manager again, net mask has changed from 255.255.255.0 to something like 24?
[02:34] <Cyber_Akuma> Has anyone here managed to get Nvidia 3D Vision working in Ubuntu?
[02:34] <mattgyver> HansProleman, naah thats just because for sanity purposes it converted it into CIDR notation
[02:34] <HansProleman> ah okay
[02:34] <mattgyver> 24 == 255.255.255.0
[02:34] <mattgyver> HansProleman, I am honestly wondering if udev is the culprit.  I may have you try something shortly.
[02:34] <HansProleman> had a slight feeling that might be the case but wanted to check :p
[02:34] <HansProleman> okay, thanks
[02:35] <HansProleman> it's really weird. this is a totally fresh install
[02:35] <Cyber_Akuma> Does it still require a Quadro card, or can it be used on consumer cards now?
[02:35] <mattgyver> HansProleman, thats even stranger then - no issues during installation?
[02:36] <HansProleman> there were a couple of boots where the desktop didn't seem to be presenting post-login so i hard rebooted
[02:36] <HansProleman> but possibly it was just because this is a slow laptop and i'm impatient, i dunno
[02:37] <mattgyver> HansProleman, okay.  Give this a shot; sudo /lib/udev/write_net_rules enp0s10
[02:38] <HansProleman> sudo: /lib/udev/write_net_rules: command not found
[02:38] <mattgyver> bleh
[02:39] <mattgyver> HansProleman, alright, lets try a different approach
[02:39] <mattgyver> On that system I want you to do this; sudo service NetworkManager stop
[02:39] <mattgyver> Then, sudo service networking start
[02:40] <mattgyver> HansProleman, just lemme know that both of those commands didn't error out
[02:40] <HansProleman> those ran fine
[02:40] <mattgyver> HansProleman, were going to try and configure the other daemon temporarily just to see if we can get that working
[02:40] <mattgyver> okay.  One sec I am going to paste you a config and tell you the file to paste it all into
[02:42] <incog> does canonical do enough for migrants, refugees and otherkin? www.twitch.tv/l0de call in live at 415-349-5666 !
[02:43] <mattgyver> HansProleman, does your router do DHCP, I want to elimiate variables if we can
[02:43] <mattgyver> HansProleman, actually no screw that.
[02:43] <HansProleman> it does indeed
[02:45] <mattgyver> HansProleman, real quick do an ifconfig and lemme know if you still see enp0s10, you shouldn't
[02:46] <HansProleman> naw it's still there. why should it be gone?
[02:46] <mattgyver> HansProleman, were going to temporarily make it go away so its not a variable for this
[02:46] <mattgyver> type, sudo ifdown enp0s10
[02:46] <mattgyver> then check ifconfig again and it should be gone
[02:47] <mattgyver> NetworkManager is set to start that up on boot/restart so it will come back when we light the service back up after this test
[02:47] <HansProleman> okay uh... that's weird. i get an unknown interface return
[02:47] <mattgyver> okay actually that may be because the service is off and networking is on
[02:47] <mattgyver> disregard that part then.
[02:48] <mattgyver> You will need to make some changes to this, pastebin wouldn't let me make a change quick enough because it thought I was spamming, http://pastebin.com/zdrEV3Qg
[02:48] <mattgyver> So, just for your sanity, sudo gedit /etc/network/interfaces
[02:49] <mattgyver> HansProleman, when that file opens, append this at the bottom but make the following 2 changes.  1.  Change line 2 from saying enp0s10 to eth0.  2.  Make sure your IP settings match, I used the MAC address from your last paste and my best guess for the rest.
[02:50] <mattgyver> When that is done, leave the file open but save it.
[02:51] <Bashing-om> mattgyver: HansProleman Be a good idea to make a backup of any file one edits . Handy to revert, and never can tell what might happen .
[02:52] <HansProleman> yep got a backup saved. altered gateway to match
[02:52] <mattgyver> Bashing-om, yeah were just gonna test this quickly just to see if its isolated to network manager then remove it
[02:52] <mattgyver> HansProleman, okay, sudo service networking restart
[02:53] <mattgyver> Hopefully that restarts, if so do an ifconfig and tell me if you see eth0 now
[02:53] <HansProleman> control process exited with error code :-x
[02:53] <JhonC> Is Python gonna be compiled one day? ...
[02:54] <lordcirth> JhonC, well it does get JIT compiled
[02:55] <Bashing-om> mattgyver: I do not know systemd 16.04 .. but uf ya going manual on the inter face ya got to tell network-manager . set to true in /etc/NetworkManager/NetworkManager.conf .
[02:56] <mattgyver> Bashing-om, even if we stopped the NetworkManager service?
[02:56] <Bashing-om> mattgyver: Honestly, I do not know .
[02:57] <JhonC> I'm gonna read about JIT
[02:58] <JhonC> thank you
[02:58] <mattgyver> HansProleman, insert this into line 2 of that file, so directly underneath the 'auto eth0' line; allow-hotplug eth0
[02:59] <HansProleman> sorry, was i meant to append prior paste to it or replace? i appended
[02:59] <mattgyver> HansProleman, then save the file and sudo service networking restart
[02:59] <HansProleman> done
[02:59] <mattgyver> HansProleman, yeah your appending this all below your initial configuration which probably just had auto l0 in it
[02:59] <HansProleman> control process exited with error again ugh
[02:59] <mattgyver> bleh
[03:00] <mattgyver> okay.  Do this.
[03:00] <mattgyver> Remove the following lines; address, netmask, gateway, hwaddress
[03:01] <mattgyver> Then, change the iface line to say dhcp instead of static, save the file
[03:02] <mattgyver> You will basically have 3 lines for this stanza then starting with the following respectively; auto, allow-hotplug, and iface
[03:02] <HansProleman> okay so i have auto lo, iface lo inet loopback
[03:03] <mattgyver> HansProleman, yeah those are good you wanna keep them in there
[03:03] <HansProleman> then auth eth0, allow-hotpluf eth0, iface eth0 inet dhcp
[03:03] <HansProleman> hotplug!
[03:03] <mattgyver> yeah, hotplug
[03:03] <mattgyver> okay, so then do a; sudo service networking restart
[03:04] <HansProleman> still exiting with error aaaa
[03:04] <mattgyver> HansProleman, dang man.
[03:05] <mattgyver> Okay, what if you change eth0 to enp0s10
[03:05] <mattgyver> then save and restart
[03:05] <mattgyver> restart the networking service that is
[03:06] <HansProleman> it didn't exit!!
[03:06] <mattgyver> okay, yeah that may have been a my bad
[03:07] <mattgyver> so.. I guess the device is still listed in ifconfig (it was previously)
[03:07] <mattgyver> But if you can just confirm that
[03:10] <HansProleman> yeah it's still there as enp0s10
[03:10] <mattgyver> HansProleman, okay
[03:11] <JhonC> to make GTK interfaces, which programming language is better, Python or C?
[03:11] <mattgyver> HansProleman, try sudo dhclient enp0s10
[03:12] <jamesd> JhonC: depends on what you want to do...  if you are writing a kernel or a device driver C is better.. but python is quicker to write code, and the code can be just as fast as C.
[03:12] <JhonC> Ok, thanks!
[03:13] <HansProleman> mattgyver, doesn't seem to be returning anything
[03:13] <Bashing-om> mattgyver: HansProleman :; a working examle of /etc/network/interfaces . Where my router hands out DHCP . http://paste.ubuntu.com/16973923/ .
[03:14] <mattgyver> HansProleman, I assume you can't ping the router right?
[03:14] <mattgyver> Bashing-om, thanks for that
[03:16] <Bashing-om> mattgyver: My bit to try and help. I want that you get this working .
[03:16] <mattgyver> HansProleman, this is really strange.  If that didn't work then lets put that networking service back together.
[03:17] <glass> ERROR: You need live-build (>= 1:20151215kali1), you have 3.0~a57-1ubuntu25 #that package is orphaned any suggestions?
[03:17] <HansProleman> pinging the router just returns unreachable on both auto ethernet and manual
[03:17] <mattgyver> HansProleman, the account your using, is it one you created during the installation or did you maybe add it at a later point?
[03:17] <HansProleman> created during install
[03:18] <mattgyver> Okay, clean up time.  Go into /etc/network/interfaces and remove all those lines we added from auto eth0 down
[03:18] <mattgyver> save the file and then run this; sudo service networking stop && sudo service networking start
[03:18] <mattgyver> oops, wrong commands
[03:18] <mattgyver> sudo service networking stop && sudo service NetworkManager start
[03:19] <HansProleman> done
[03:22] <kuroneko1> hi
[03:22] <mattgyver> HansProleman, I really am curious why you don't have that udev file
[03:23] <mattgyver> HansProleman, it could be a change in later versions of Ubuntu but its definitely new to me
[03:23] <HansProleman> udev
[03:24] <HansProleman> sorry haha, meant to ctrl + f that
[03:24] <mattgyver> HansProleman, does this report anything; sudo udevadm info -a -p /sys/class/net/enp0s10
[03:25] <mattgyver> Trying to see if udev is even aware that the device exists
[03:25] <mattgyver> If it doesn't it may say like 'syspath not found'
[03:25] <mattgyver> otherwise your gonna see a lot of garbage
[03:26] <HansProleman> naw i got the garbage
[03:26] <mattgyver> Okay, well at least we have that.
[03:27] <nerlando> hola
[03:27] <mattgyver> HansProleman, what is the output of this; sudo udevadm info -a -p /sys/class/net/eth0 | grep KERNEL==
[03:27] <mattgyver> im thinking enp0s10
[03:28] <HansProleman> syspath not found :x
[03:30] <Bashing-om> HansProleman: mattgyver :: Network device assignment happens in /etc/udev/rules.d/70-persistent-net.rules based on the MAC address for each device. Does this file exist ?
[03:31] <mattgyver> Bashing-om, yeah thats what stumped me because it doesnt exist on his system
[03:31] <mattgyver> I did just literally find something that says this is no longer done in udev
[03:31] <mattgyver> They moved to a predictable name format, hence why he has enp0s10 as his interface name.
[03:31] <HansProleman> i only downloaded the iso today haha
[03:31] <mattgyver> granted this is a gentoo thing I am finding this in
[03:32] <lordcirth> s/predictable/mostly deterministic in a perfect world
[03:32] <Bashing-om> mattgyver: I do have a 15.10 systemd install lemme check abd see if the file exist on it .
[03:32] <mattgyver> yeah I am on 15.04 and I have it
[03:32] <mattgyver> https://wiki.gentoo.org/wiki/Udev/Upgrade_Guide
[03:32] <mattgyver> I actually got linked to that by some ubunutu forums post
[03:32] <mattgyver> It looks like 204 removes this
[03:33] <mattgyver> I am on 219 however this system was upgraded from 14LTS before 15 so it probably transitioned over with me
[03:34] <mattgyver> And for what its worth udev is seeing the device so its obviously there
[03:34] <mattgyver> I feel now udev is a red herring
[03:35] <cha2> .
[03:35] <mattgyver> HansProleman, can you post your /var/log/dmesg file somehow?
[03:35] <mattgyver> paste*
[03:36] <HansProleman> from sudo nano /var/log/dmesg i just get "nothing has been logged yet"
[03:38] <lordcirth> HansProleman, try just running the command, "dmesg"
[03:38] <mattgyver> HansProleman, yeah you can redirect that to a file too, dmesg > ~/dmesg.txt
[03:40] <HansProleman> sorry man i gotta call it a night, it's close to 5am haha
[03:41] <mattgyver> HansProleman, hey no worries man I wish we could have figured it out
[03:41] <HansProleman> 'sokay, thank you for trying, you did a lot better than i would have :-)
[03:42] <mattgyver> HansProleman, your welcome, take care
[03:46] <ThetaOrionis> Hi guys, sorry for such a noobish question. So, in the light of recent hacking attack on Mint's site, do you think community-maintained distros like Ubuntu Mate are as safe as the official Ubuntu is?
[03:47] <lordcirth> ThetaOrionis, it is not their community-maintained status that made Mint vulnerable, it was their poor attention to security.
[03:47] <lordcirth> Many other community distros are quite secure.
[03:48] <ThetaOrionis> Ah, I see, thanks lordcirth.
[03:48] <ThetaOrionis> I didn't read much about the attack, to be honest.
[03:48] <dax> they used a crap password and got pwned
[03:49] <lordcirth> Mint was formerly famous for disabling certain security updates because they might cause problems for a handful of users.
[03:49] <lordcirth> kernel updates, mostly.
[03:49] <ThetaOrionis> So, last question, do Ubuntu spinoffs like Ubuntu MATE get the same security updates as Ubuntu official versions do?
[03:49] <dax> yes
[03:50] <dax> same repositories, so same updates
[03:50] <lordcirth> dax, some distros fork the repos tho
[03:50] <dax> oh, they said spinoffs
[03:50] <dax> official flavors do not.
[03:50] <jamesd> just make sure you run the update command...  fixes in the repo doesn't make you more secure until they are applied
[03:50] <dax> including mate
[03:50] <lordcirth> In which case they take Ubuntu updates, put them in their own testing, and generally push them soon
[03:50] <dax> !flavors
[03:50] <lordcirth> Oh sorry I misread
[03:50] <lordcirth> I thought we were still talking about Mint, etc
[03:50] <ThetaOrionis> Great! I'm greatly relaxed, many thanks dax
[03:51] <dax> lordcirth: we both did, lol :)
[03:51] <ThetaOrionis> Thanks to you too lordcirth and jamesd
[03:51] <lordcirth> np
[03:51] <catopett> Is there a game named doom3 for ubuntu?
[03:51] <lordcirth> catopett, there are doom clones and source ports.
[03:51] <catopett> Is there a game named doom for ubuntu?
[03:52] <cha> .
[03:58] <WattisLove> Hi. When using compiz, how do you hide window contents when moving windows? I've checked all options in the "Move window" section in the compiz configurator and I don't see any option to hide the contents of the window while moving
[03:59] <catopett> Hi, is it a way to install windows in wine?
[03:59] <Ben64> no, wine lets you run windows programs in linux
[03:59] <craysiii> typically one would install windows using something like virtualbox or qemu
[04:00] <glass> how to remove live-build 3.0~a57-1ubuntu25
[04:00] <catopett> qemu, do i install this with apt-get install?
[04:01] <Ben64> catopett: you'll probably have an easier time if you use virtualbox
[04:02] <lordcirth> Virtualbox is much easier, yes
[04:02] <lordcirth> sudo apt-get install virtualbox
[04:26] <bsm1175321> adsf
[04:27] <catopett> Is there RADIOHAMS here?
[04:31] <catopett> Is there RADIOAMATEURS here?
[04:36] <monsterco> Hi everyone; I know this is not so much about Ubuntu but I have an Ubuntu LTS running on Amazon and I think one of the programs I installed changed ssh to openssh and so I can't ssh into this instance now at reboot. what can I do to get this working now?
[04:36] <incog> Muhammad Ali: Boxing legend dies at age of 74
[04:37] <monsterco> ops - was thinking that this evening
[04:38] <jamesd> monsterco: when you don't have console access to a machine or vm, take frequent snapshots and backups, so you can rollback and recover.
[04:38] <monsterco> jamesd - good idea
[04:39] <monsterco> but this is a free tier
[04:39] <monsterco> not sure if allowed
[04:39] <monsterco> and i am stuck now
[04:39] <monsterco> what is the solution?
[04:39] <jamesd> monsterco: they are allowed, you may have to pay a few pennies a month to maintain them.. but nothing to break the bank
[04:40] <legopika> hi?
[04:41] <jamesd> monsterco:  only solutions i can think of  are painful to you at least on AWS.   spin up another vm,  mount the drive from the broken vm at a different point, backup your data or try and fix it, or force ssh to start up on a different port and then repair.
[04:41] <monsterco> i see - ok so i have to mount it and then see what has happend to ssh basically?
[04:42] <monsterco> i mean i won't be able to configure openssh or anything because it's just a mounted drive and not an actuall system?
[04:42] <jamesd> monsterco: yeah.   if you can get a shell on the broken vm.. how else do you make changes.
[04:42] <jamesd> er can't get a shell
[04:42] <jamesd> unless you left some other method to connect.
[04:43] <monsterco> no other method left
[04:43] <monsterco> so how can I mount this?
[04:43] <jamesd> not without a console.
[04:43] <monsterco> i don't even know where the volume is
[04:43] <monsterco> i have another instance now
[04:45] <monsterco> I think I can do this...I have found a guide but I may need help with ssh settings...
[04:46] <jamesd> on aws goto ec2,    look at Elastic block store  you will find a list of all your volumes
[04:46] <ojii> hi everyone. my system (15.10) won't boot anymore after I installed updates yesterday, boot repair info is http://paste.ubuntu.com/16975693/
[04:46] <monsterco> funny thing is that Amazon can show me current snapshot of the screen or log of server starting but there is no raw access to machine; i mean this can be a really good feature for amazon to implement
[04:46] <ojii> it just goes from bios screen to black to bios screen forever
[04:47] <jamesd> monsterco: yeah not sure why they don't give you access to your vm console, xen  does it and so does kvm.
[04:47] <monsterco> yep - that is exactly what i have on my xen...
[04:47] <monsterco> maybe for security reasons...well, it effectively means they have to provide a physical server to everyone...
[04:48] <monsterco> but maybe just provide like "vzctl enter instance #" specifically so one can use the damn thing
[04:48] <jamesd> they have to provide a domU...
[04:48] <monsterco> this is so backward minded...
[04:48] <HappyHobo> I'm running xubuntu 16.04LTS and I have no sound whatsoever.  I've consulted the ubuntu forums and found nothing that helped me.  I'm running an Acer Aspire One netbook with built in speakers.  I tried to remove the .config files for pulseaudio to start over and there weren't any
[04:48] <Guest42078> can anyone help me with this? Is this a bug?: http://askubuntu.com/questions/779995/desktop-icons-keep-rearranging-whenever-i-refresh-the-desktop-or-boot-the-system
[04:49] <HappyHobo> It worked just fine then stopped.
[04:49] <guest5351> hi
[04:49] <heisenberg> hi
[04:50] <HappyHobo> Hi.  How are y'all?
[04:50] <guest5351> i have a lid close problem with ubuntu
[04:50] <heisenberg> I are watching Mr Robot, and you?
[04:50] <monsterco> jamesd - if I have selected to attach a key pair while starting an instance do you know where I can find the root password for it? I know for Windows it's a simple right click that gives it
[04:51] <Guest42078> http://askubuntu.com/questions/779995/desktop-icons-keep-rearranging-whenever-i-refresh-the-desktop-or-boot-the-system
[04:52] <jamesd> the user is ubuntu   and there may not be a root passwd,  i don't remember. i just use sudo
[04:52] <HappyHobo> How can I get my sound to work again?  I have some Bob Seger to listen to.
[04:52] <HappyHobo> Please don't deny me my Bob.
[04:53] <jamesd> https://alestic.com/2014/01/ec2-ssh-username/
[04:54] <HappyHobo> Is that for me?
[04:54] <HappyHobo> It doesn't look like that.
[04:55] <HappyHobo> Hi timahvo1 what do you know about pulseaudio?
[04:56] <HappyHobo> Hi notadeveloper
[04:57] <HappyHobo> HELP ME I'M MELTING.
[04:57] <akis> hi all. is it true that 16.04 creates by default a swap file and not a swap partition?
[04:59] <HappyHobo> Mine has a paritition, I have a 4 gig partition
[04:59] <HappyHobo> Hi Aggraxis gsingh
[04:59] <Aggraxis> hello :)
[04:59] <HappyHobo>  I'm running xubuntu 16.04LTS and I have no sound whatsoever.  I've consulted the ubuntu forums and found nothing that helped me.  I'm running an Acer Aspire One netbook with built in speakers.
[05:00] <HappyHobo> Hi freeWiz
[05:00] <freeWiz> Hi
[05:00] <freeWiz> I'm new here
[05:00] <HappyHobo> Everyone here is it looks like.
[05:01] <Aggraxis> Hmm. I wish I knew what to tell you. I haven't powered up my netbooks in a year or two. I'm running Ubuntu Mate in a virtual machine.
[05:01] <freeWiz> I'm running linux mint on virtual machine ,too
[05:01] <HappyHobo> there is no pulseaudio .config file
[05:02] <Aggraxis> Did you do a dist-upgrade or is it a clean install?
[05:02] <HappyHobo> clean install then a dist-upgrade
[05:03] <Aggraxis> did sound work before the dist-upgrade?
[05:03] <HappyHobo> It worked after the dist-upgrade and stopped after added the extra for mp3, flash, and so forth.
[05:05] <freeWiz> #HappyHobo what is your distro?
[05:05] <HappyHobo> xubuntu 16.04LTS
[05:05] <freeWiz> and you have sound issue,now?
[05:05] <HappyHobo> Yes.
[05:06] <HappyHobo> Installed, dist-upgrade, extras non free and now no sound.
[05:07] <HappyHobo> Clementine, vlc, the last great radio, nothing, nada
[05:07] <HappyHobo> I couldn't find anything on the forum freeWiz
[05:08] <HappyHobo> Hi dreki bogdan
[05:08] <freeWiz> I'm looking it up
[05:08] <freeWiz> to find a soloution
[05:08] <HappyHobo> I appreciate that.
[05:09] <freeWiz> don't mention it, man
[05:09] <buffon137> How to give out a Notification on a web page ? I have tried the object Notification.requestPermission() but it didn't work any suggestions ? very appreciate !!!
[05:10] <akis> HappyHobo: there is no swap partition for me. if was any i could delete it. i am wondering how can in delete the swap file.
[05:10] <ojii> can anyone help me get my system to boot again? http://askubuntu.com/questions/781668/system-wont-boot-anymore-after-software-update
[05:11] <HappyHobo> I've never heard of a swap file.
[05:15] <freeWiz> #HappyHobo try this : install 'qasmixer' then go into the menu and choose 'Settings > Sessions and Startup > Application Autostart > Add' and name it whatever (ie Volume Control) then for the command type in: qasmixer --tray then reboot.
[05:16] <freeWiz> #HappyHobo , or this:" sudo apt-get update"  "sudo apt-get install pavucontrol" Select the device and remove mute sound.
[05:19] <topirate> I have installed ubuntu in my main machine as well as vmware
[05:19] <topirate> How do i repartition after installation
[05:20] <topirate> I am using cfdisk and it sends the machine to grub rescue everytime i do it
[05:20] <HappyHobo> It was already installed and now it won't start.
[05:21] <freeWiz> #akis , put these commands in your shell as a root: "swapoff -v /swapfile" and remove everything in /etc/fstab file and then "rm /swapfile"
[05:24] <HappyHobo> freeWiz:  it just says Establishing connection to PulseAudio:  Please wait and it has for 5 minutes.
[05:25] <freeWiz> HappyHobo: okay, let me check
[05:25] <HappyHobo> ok
[05:28] <freeWiz> topirate: you should use fdisk not cfdisk
[05:28] <topirate> Well i have only used cfdisk till now
[05:29] <akis> freeWiz: swapoff /swapfile
[05:29] <akis> swapoff: /swapfile: swapoff failed: No such file or directory. why?
[05:30] <topirate> Is it possible freeWiz to repartition after installation
[05:30] <topirate> With fdisk i mean
[05:30] <HappyHobo> It is still telling me to wait.  Is pavucontrol my ex and best friend?
[05:39] <HappyHobo> freeWiz:  found it yet?
[05:42] <HappyHobo> f
[05:42] <HappyHobo> eff this bites.
[05:46] <HappyHobo> freeWiz:  ?
[05:50] <HappyHobo> freeWiz:  I have pavucontrol up and neither show as being muted.
[05:57] <HappyHobo> freeWiz:  I did what I know what to do and it didn't work.  I did a dpkg-configure pulseaudio/
[06:30] <akis> why /dev/xubuntu-vg/swap_1 is not active but /dev/mapper/cryptswap1 is acive? does swap space works properly and safely? (16.04 clean installation with a full disk encryption)
[06:34] <spartan29> can I ask a question?
[06:35] <spartan29> its related to theming the unity panel
[06:35] <spartan29> the top panel in unity
[06:35] <it> hola
[06:36] <Guest37299> y porq
[06:36] <Guest37299> hhh
[06:36] <ron__> I  will spend nearly a day for removing ubuntu, lot of bug the 14.04 :x
[06:36] <spartan29> hey
[06:36] <ron__> 14.04 -> 16.04 :x
[06:40] <underd0g> hello
[06:51] <akis> my /etc/fstab is like this: #/dev/mapper/xubuntu--vg-swap_1 none            swap    sw              0       0                                                     /dev/mapper/cryptswap1 none swap sw 0 0 .  Is it acceptable or is it anything wrong on this?
[06:51] <EriC^> looks ok
[06:52] <heston> should html5 at 1080p be maxing out a core 2 duo 2.53 ghz?
[06:53] <heston> both cores are maxed and im dropping a ton of frames
[06:56] <newbie|2> Setting up a Belgian ID card reader ... Can someone help?  Every time I try to use it, the light goes off on the card reader.
[06:57] <akis> EriC^: did you answer at my question?
[06:58] <EriC^> akis: yes
[06:59] <akis> EriC^: ok, thank. why xubuntu--vg-swap_1 has a # and <disks> shows it as not active. Is that how it works? Cryptswap looks active.
[06:59] <EriC^> akis: i think it's due to upgrading maybe
[07:00] <AndroUser2> Yo anyone who know how to create a new partition in already installed ubuntu
[07:00] <akis> EriC^: upgrading? i did a clean installation.
[07:00] <EriC^> akis: # comments the line out
[07:01] <EriC^> akis: hmm no idea then
[07:01] <EriC^> it's fine though
[07:01] <akis> EriC^: i am wondering if it Ok for xubuntu--vg-swap_1 not to be active , but cryptswap is active.
[07:02] <EriC^> cryptswap is encrypted swap
[07:02] <akis> EriC^: i know that, but i thought that xubuntu--vg-swap_1 should also be active. i dont know how it works.
[07:03] <EriC^> akis: no it shouldn't
[07:03] <akis> EriC^:ok, so everything is ok?
[07:04] <EriC^> yeah
[07:05] <akis> EriC^:ok, thank you for your time today.
[07:05] <EriC^> akis: no problem
[07:10] <pizzapie002> will he freezingon bay trail processor ever be fixed?
[07:11] <pizzapie002> its been 6months https://bugzilla.kernel.org/show_bug.cgi?id=109051#c5
[07:12] <pizzapie002> makes me mad how much trouble ubuntu has given me
[07:12] <pizzapie002> yespecially since the laptop came with it pre installed
[07:12] <pizzapie002> kernel panic same day i get it
[07:13] <pizzapie002> thocuh pad doesnt work work after re install
[07:13] <pizzapie002> and now the freezing
[07:13] <lokki> hiall
[07:13] <lokki> as mesa driver
[07:13] <lokki> what shud i get
[07:13] <lokki> i got ati radeon 5000 series
[07:13] <lokki> i cannot do catalyst
[07:13] <lokki> but need mesa
[07:13] <lokki> so
[07:13] <lokki> wat a good mesa driver
[07:13] <lokki> anyone?
[07:14] <pizzapie002> lol
[07:14] <lokki> hehe
[07:14] <lokki> but seriously :p
[07:14] <lokki> with new lubuntu
[07:15] <lokki> in software install
[07:15] <lokki> u can only install 1 software ata time
[07:15] <lokki> how to change that ?
[07:15] <lokki> that i wanna know too
[07:15] <pizzapie002> uninstall
[07:15] <lokki> uninstall what
[07:15] <lokki> ?
[07:15] <lokki> no
[07:15] <pizzapie002> lubuntu
[07:15] <lokki> lubuntu is good
[07:15] <lokki> i ll keep it
[07:15] <lokki> also iam not pro
[07:15] <lokki> so
[07:15] <lokki> no big problem
[07:15] <lokki> but it used to work
[07:16] <lokki> maybe lubuntu got alot bugs
[07:16] <pizzapie002> theres no one here, its the middle of the night
[07:16] <lokki> ya
[07:16] <pizzapie002> im came here cause ubuntu has given me nothing but trouble
[07:16] <lokki> allright
[07:16] <lokki> well
[07:16] <Myrtti> !enter
[07:16] <lokki> i like lubuntu
[07:17] <lokki> i ve tried ubuntu
[07:17] <lokki> but lubuntu i like better
[07:17] <lokki> and linux mint
[07:17] <lokki> well
[07:17] <lokki> g2g
[07:17] <lokki> tc pizzapie002
[07:18] <AndroUser2> pizzapie002 will you pls explain yer troubles with ubuntu
[07:18] <pizzapie002> loll
[07:18] <mos_> 还是这里人多
[07:18] <mos_> but my poor english
[07:18] <mos_> (´･ω･｀)
[07:18] <pizzapie002> freezing on kernel4.4
[07:19] <pizzapie002> happens on bay trail processors
[07:19] <pizzapie002> still no real fix after 6 months
[07:19] <jose_36> !ciao
[07:19] <jose_36> !list
[07:19] <pizzapie002> kernel versionws new than 3.16
[07:25] <Raiva> Hi
[07:32] <gebbione> hi folks, my ux got stuck and i managed to get out of it doing alt+ctrl+esc and then killed the offending processes. But now i am stuck on the terminal. Running lightdm didn't work to return to ux
[07:32] <gebbione> is there a way to do it
[07:32] <gebbione> or is a restart the only way
[07:35] <vbotka> gebbione, try Ctrl+Alt+F1 to get to the console
[07:35] <gebbione> i m in the console
[07:36] <gebbione> i have run lightdm from there
[07:38] <pizzapie002> irc dead
[07:38] <rp2> nope, just asleep
[07:39] <rp2> gebbione, one thing you could do is kill off all of your processes
[07:40] <rp2> has anyone here ever compiled a C++ application for Ubuntu? I really aspire to create a package for it
[07:40] <gebbione> rp2 the ux was blocked, i got a terminal and killed VLC that was blocking something. I guess i need to configure xorg better. But right now i m in a shell
[07:40] <gebbione> how do i return to Gnome
[07:41] <rp2> gebbione, if you do killall -r . (kill all your processes) you can probably log in again after doing Ctrl-Alt-F7
[07:41] <rp2> but if you are the only user you might as well reboot
[07:42] <Xin> Hi all
[07:42] <rp2> how do I list all packages with certain build dependencies?
[07:42] <Xin> does anyone know a command to take a system image of a running ubuntu box?
[07:42] <Xin> from inside the running box
[07:42] <Xin> lol
[07:43] <Xin> like windows volume shadow copy or whatever
[07:43] <gebbione> rp2 i wanted to avoid reboot and regain access to the locked gnome session to avoid loosing the currently running processes/applications
[07:43] <rp2> a system image?
[07:43] <rp2> gebbione, in what sense is it locked?
[07:44] <rp2> maybe there is nothing to return to
[07:44] <rp2> is X still running?
[07:44] <Xin> hmm actually never mind I just need to use rsync
[07:44] <gebbione> i did exit from it with Alt + CTRL + ESC/F1
[07:45] <gebbione> i got a terminal when i did this
[07:45] <gebbione> and now i want to go back to the X session
[07:45] <rp2> do Ctrl+Alt+F7
[07:45] <Xin> its like F5 or F7
[07:45] <Xin> or somesuch
[07:46] <gebbione> rp2 that worked exactly like i needed it
[07:46] <gebbione> thanks
[07:48] <Xin> I just picked up one of these
[07:49] <Xin> http://www.netgear.com.au/home/products/networking/modem-routers/D7000.aspx?cid=gwmng#tab-techspecs
[07:49] <vbotka> Xin try "apt-cache rdepends"
[07:49] <Xin> vbotka; cheers ill take a look
[07:52] <pizzapie002> can i safely run 16.04 with an older kernel version?
[07:52] <pizzapie002> is there a guide to use older kernel
[07:52] <rp2> welcome!
[07:52] <rp2> I thought it was goign to be much harder ...
[07:53] <rp2> vbotka, does that also list build dependencies?
[07:54] <renn0xtk9> what are the most reliable and ubuntu-friendly printers ?
[07:54] <effectnet> hello
[07:54] <renn0xtk9> my canon mg5350 is now showing the b200 error and I gone fed up with canon lack of driver
[07:55] <rp2> wait. I can get the build dependencies of a package with sudo apt-get build-dep <package>
[07:55] <rp2> what I need is the reverse: given a build dependency, find packages that have it
[07:57] <MC_Kejml> Hello, could someone please help me out with memory problem on centos? It's described here http://unix.stackexchange.com/questions/287532/total-memory-decreased-when-increasing-swap-file. Many thanks
[07:58] <Hitu> hii
[07:59] <Hitu> I want  coad Arduino using codeblocks IDE ...can i do?
[08:01] <Hitu> help me..
[08:02] <pizzapie002> yes'[
[08:03] <Hitu> hii pizza
[08:08] <ubuntu-mate> so i changed my interface to "opensuse" in ubuntu mate. how to change it back, cant find the interfaces and shit again
[08:09] <pizzapie002> install windows
[08:09] <ubuntu-mate> oke thx
[08:10] <Kits_> who do you even know here
[08:11] <Myrtti> pizzapie002: could you  please give actual help to people and not just tell them to install Windows?
[08:11] <Myrtti> or if you are bored, find another channel
[08:12] <cyborg__> hello
[08:12] <Kits_> hello
[08:12] <cyborg__> test testing 123
[08:12] <Kits_> yes, its working
[08:12] <cyborg__> oh k
[08:13] <cyborg__> :)
[08:14] <cyborg__> i know kits_
[08:15] <rp2> MC_Kejml, please be even more specific in questions. how do you know 'you cannot run your applications anymore'?
[08:15] <heisenberg> hi
[08:15] <rp2> which applications? what happens when you try?
[08:16] <MC_Kejml> rp2, after trying all the commands I have described at stackoverflow, I was unable to start JIRA with a XSX XMX of 384 - 768MB. Before, it worked slowly, but it worked.
[08:16] <MC_Kejml> If that helps.
[08:16] <heisenberg> why if run tcpdump look very address in Ububtu?
[08:16] <MC_Kejml> When the service is started, it crashes upon startup with that it cannot load various addons.
[08:18] <heisenberg> help
[08:19] <rp2> very address? what does that mean? address is a noun
[08:19] <rp2> 'start JIRA'? JIRA is a web application. how do you start it?
[08:20] <heisenberg> very IP. '-'
[08:21] <akik> heisenberg: you can create filters in tcpdump to only show the data you're interested in
[08:21] <Xin> so
[08:21] <Xin> I need to set up a vpn
[08:21] <Xin> from my vps to my office pc
[08:22] <MC_Kejml> I start it through Putty when I connect to the server
[08:22] <rp2> I have a script for our VPN but there are different types
[08:22] <Xin> well id prefer something I can configure once and never touch again
[08:22] <Xin> xD
[08:23] <rp2> https://www.win.tue.nl/~rp/bin/vpn2
[08:23] <Xin> Well for starters the current routing is nutty, I have no idea why but my pings go around australia nearly 2 full times, then out to the us via a slow route
[08:23] <Xin> I'm hoping a vpn can negotiate this more effectively
[08:23] <rp2> MC_Kejml, hmmm ... so JIRA is a service? I didn't know that
[08:24] <Xin> and beyond that just as a general tunnel from here to the US
[08:24] <Xin> so I can steal ur goodies
[08:24] <Xin> xD
[08:24] <rp2> aaah ... it's Tomcat
[08:25] <MC_Kejml> So what could be done? How can i return my RAM to the previous state?
[08:25] <MC_Kejml> These were the only operations I have done before the RAM was lowered.
[08:25] <rp2> Tomcat is probably configured to consume more memory than you have available ... you can fix that by feeding it extra parameters
[08:25] <rp2> but it would be better to undo the messing with the memory that you did. leave it to the OS if you don't know what you're doing. it's really complex stuff
[08:26] <Xin> good advice
[08:26] <rp2> nbut how? I don't know ...
[08:26] <romain__> help
[08:27] <rp2> my /proc/sys/vm/drop_caches is 0, so you may want to set it to 0 again
[08:27] <rp2> but I have no idea what that does
[08:28] <rp2> looks like that won't actually do anything - http://unix.stackexchange.com/questions/17936/setting-proc-sys-vm-drop-caches-to-clear-cache
[08:29] <Guest79438> hi
[08:29] <MC_Kejml> Ah, yep. Those were the commands I used before
[08:30] <Guest79438> I'm confusef about choosing ubuntu or fedora can anyone help me?
[08:31] <akik> rp2: why do you say it doesn't do anything?
[08:31] <MC_Kejml> My drop_caches is already 0, so that probably wouldnt help
[08:31] <MC_Kejml> dunno
[08:33] <Guest79438> I Ubuntu can  do anything that Fedora do?
[08:33] <akik> MC_Kejml: the drop_caches is like giving a direct instruction to the kernel
[08:34] <effectnet> oh wow mint is more popular than ubuntu?
[08:35] <rp2> akik, the answer in that link says it
[08:35] <akik> rp2: ok so the link is wrong then
[08:36] <rp2> really?
[08:36] <akik> rp2: i'm asking you which part of that url says that drop_caches doesn't do anything
[08:36] <rp2> anyway, I think your swapoff and swapon commands are the more likely culprits
[08:37] <rp2> akik: I didn't say that
[08:38] <akik> oh sorry i misunderstood then
[08:38] <MC_Kejml> I see.
[08:38] <MC_Kejml> Tried swapoff and swapon again, no difference
[08:38] <MC_Kejml> I didnt get the memor back that is
[08:40] <jarnos> How do you change language and/or keyboard layout before starting a live session using an installation media? Before there used to be shortcuts for that in a screen.
[08:40] <rp2> MC_Kejml, what does  cat /proc/meminfo | fgrep -i swap show?
[08:40] <akik> jarnos: doesn't the grub let you select your language with F3 when booting?
[08:41] <rp2> and  swapon -s ?
[08:41] <akik> jarnos: otherwise you can you setxkbmap while in the live session
[08:41] <allstarsnorks2> Hi. I'm unable to boot into LightDM in Ubuntu 16.04. When I go into CLI, I get "A start job is running for hold"
[08:41] <MC_Kejml> rp2, it says swapcached = 0, total and free = 2 gb.
[08:41] <allstarsnorks2> How do I fix this?
[08:42] <rp2> ok
[08:42] <mtk> ?
[08:42] <MC_Kejml> just like swapon -s
[08:42] <MC_Kejml> only one folder with the swap file
[08:42] <rp2> so you have swap space available
[08:42] <MC_Kejml> yep, 2 gbs
[08:44] <rp2> but JIRA (Tomcat) doesn't want to use it, whereas it was happy to use it before. at least that is my guess
[08:46] <rp2> have you changed anything in JIRA's configuration?
[08:46] <rp2> on the server itself I mean
[08:48] <rp2> MC_Kejml, is this how you installed JIRA? https://confluence.atlassian.com/jira064/starting-jira-automatically-on-linux-720411810.html
[08:48] <MC_Kejml> Nah, nothing. It started using a bit of the swap, though, when I tarted it.
[08:48] <MC_Kejml> Now it is stopped and I have done swapon swapoff again.
[08:48] <rp2> so what was the error it threw?
[08:49] <MC_Kejml> This one - https://confluence.atlassian.com/jirakb/troubleshooting-jira-startup-failed-error-394464512.html
[08:49] <allstarsnorks2> Hi. I am getting the "A start job is running for Hold until boot process finishes up" error while booting Ubuntu 16.04.
[08:49] <allstarsnorks2> Does anyone hat's wrong, and how I can fix it?
[08:50] <rp2> MC_Kejml, is anything else on that machine consuming a lot of memory?
[08:51] <rp2> can you reboot it and see if that fixes things?
[08:52] <rp2> allstarsnorks2, sorry I hav never seen that
[08:53] <MC_Kejml> I rebooted it in the morning, and nothing changed. Okay, something did: I had 720 MB of RAM, then I started JIRA and I was at 650 MB permanently. Dunno if the start caused this, though.
[08:54] <abhijain15_> e
[08:56] <dota> nvidia ?
[08:57] <jarnos> akik, Oh, it was because I used mkusb to create the installation media.
[09:02] <effectnet> hi anyone use mint, how do you like it?
[09:02] <effectnet> just curious
[09:02] <morsnowski> mint rocks
[09:02] <bazhang> !mint | effectnet
[09:02] <morsnowski> ubuntu derivate done in ireland
[09:03] <bazhang> not supported nor on topic here effectnet
[09:03] <bazhang> try their irc network or #ubuntu-offtopic for chit chat
[09:03] <rp2> MC_Kejml, this is perfectly normal. first, I think Tomcat defaults to 128M memory use, so whan you start it (JIRA), you have 120M memory less available. please be aware that "I had 720 of RAM" doesn't say much. is that much available to your system? or is that much available and not in use?
[09:04] <rp2> if it's the latter you can probably get JIRA to run faster by increasing the amount of memory it uses but that will go at the expense of whatever else you run on that machine
[09:04] <rp2> sorry about all the typos
[09:05] <MC_Kejml> I had 720 of total ram when running free -m.
[09:05] <MC_Kejml> I run nothing else, as I have only 1 GB physical RAM available
[09:05] <MC_Kejml> Ah, except for postgres
[09:05] <MC_Kejml> but that's it
[09:06] <MC_Kejml> Still, before yesterday it had shown around 900-960 total RAM.
[09:07] <effectnet> thx :D
[09:21] <rp2> maybe one of your memory modules broke?
[09:21] <rp2> it's really weird to lose total ram just liek that
[09:26] <gabre> hi
[09:26] <gabre> can somebody help me? I have some locale related problems
[09:26] <rp2> you could reboot, select memory test in the boot menu and see what comes up
[09:26] <rp2> I have to go
[09:27] <gabre> I m just installing a notebook for the mother of my gf and I wanted to set locale to Hungarian. it worked BUT some menu items in nemo (desktop) which are english
[09:27] <gabre> btw I m using cinnamon
[09:28] <gabre> I mean ..there are some menu items in nemo desktop which are in English..
[09:28] <gabre> can anybody help me?
[09:28] <gabre> I ve checked 'locale' and everything is set to HU
[09:31] <MC_Kejml> ok rp2, thanks anyway
[09:36] <allstarsnorks2> Hi. What GTK 3 version does Ubuntu 14.04.4 come with by default?
[09:41] <gabre> I have some translation / locale problems with nemo desktop menu
[09:41] <gabre> can anybody help with that?
[09:43] <bazhang> gabre, perhaps its a bug, consider filing one
[09:43] <bazhang> !bug | gabre
[09:44] <newsalor> Hello! My girlfriend wanted to try Win10 on her dualbooting lapton with ubuntu. She started the upgrade that win7 had been pestering her with. Naturaly grub did not like it, but set prefix; set root; insmor normal; normal did the trick. I had to repeat a few times. Yay! Win10 + ubuntu side by side. The thing still did not know from where to boot and I tried boot-repair. Now I have lost the windows boot entirely. How to undo? http://paste2.org/5ayv91DV
[09:45] <gabre> newsalor: have you googled for win10 boot repair or something like that?
[09:46] <akik> gabre: you can set the locales in /etc/default/locale
[09:46] <newsalor> gabre: This was the program I used. https://help.ubuntu.com/community/Boot-Repair
[09:46] <gabre> newsalor: for win10 I guess U d need a win specific repair (boot fix app of MS)
[09:47] <gabre> akik: all the locales are set to HU (Hungarian)
[09:48] <akik> gabre: maybe nemo desktop doesn't support that locale(?) or changing it at all
[09:49] <gabre> akik: cinnamon has a language pack (cinnamon-l10) which has Hungarian in it including all the translations (which are proper, I had a look)
[09:50] <gabre> and half of the menu items are OK
[09:50] <gabre> I mean they are translated to HU
[09:52] <newsalor> gabre: Your halo did the trick. I finally managed to update-grub. Thanks a bunch!
[09:54] <gabre> newsalor: I m not sure it was my halo but you re welcome :)
[09:54] <gabre> btw I found some code parts that need to be edited to get a hardcoded Hungarian translation
[09:54] <gabre> this is an ugly hack but it works
[09:57] <TikityTik> I got an AMD A6-3400M on my laptop but it's only available up to 1.4 Ghz it says
[09:58] <TikityTik> on the sticker it says it can go up to 2.3 Ghz, any help
[09:58] <Ben64> what says only 1.4
[09:59] <gabre> TikityTik: may it be some kind of driver? Eg. my older i5 had a boost mode which did not show up in Linux (boost from the maximum 2.1 Ghz to 2.5 Ghz)
[09:59] <TikityTik> indicator-cpufreq
[09:59] <TikityTik> @ Ben64
[09:59] <gabre> Tikity: showed up in linux = that was indicated by indicator cpufreq
[09:59] <TikityTik> gabre: I don't know
[10:00] <gabre> TikityTik: I will google it wait :)
[10:00] <Ben64> from google - The processor core is clocked at 1.4 GHz base clock speed and is able to automatically overclock up to 2.3 GHz (TurboCore, depending on temperature and used cores).
[10:01] <TikityTik> Ben64: Well i checked my bios and there's no settings to setup the cpu
[10:01] <TikityTik> I want the cpu fan and as well as the cpu itself to be fast
[10:01] <Ben64> note the "automatically"
[10:01] <TikityTik> Ben64: I don't think it's doing it
[10:01] <gabre> TikityTik: according to Ben64 and google it seems that it sets itself automatically so you only see e.g. 1.4 ghz but it run on 2.3
[10:02] <gabre> runs
[10:02] <gabre> but we may try to find an app or something that can show its real speed
[10:02] <TikityTik> i still have slow load times for ffmpeg and firefox javascript pages
[10:03] <dani_> ello
[10:04] <TikityTik> gabre: that would be helpful
[10:04] <gabre> Tikity: sorry this may be slightly related but http://askubuntu.com/questions/43764/how-do-i-get-turbo-boost-working
[10:05] <gabre> turbostat
[10:05] <gabre> check it pls
[10:05] <gabre> (and also check "Related questions" on the right)
[10:07] <TikityTik> yeah it's showing one core going up to 2.1 Ghz
[10:08] <TikityTik> but every other core is like 100 Mhz
[10:09] <TikityTik> gabre: It's dumb, this cpu sucks
[10:09] <Ben64> welcome to the exciting world of mobile computing
[10:10] <TikityTik> I want to change this laptop alone for the bad keyboard that has sticky keys and as well for the touchpad being glitchy as well.
[10:10] <gabre> TikityTik: sorry but which kind of device is this?
[10:11] <TikityTik> gabre: acer aspire 7560G
[10:11] <TikityTik> broke about 5 plastic keys and one of the arrow keys is still broken but I don't want to order another plastic key
[10:12] <Liga> hey how can i upgrade from 14.04 LTS to 16.04 LTS?
[10:13] <TikityTik> with a computer
[10:14] <gabre> http://ubuntuforums.org/showthread.php?t=1872079
[10:14] <gabre> maybe this? :S
[10:15] <akik> TikityTik: does it ever go up if you stress test your cpu?
[10:15] <saya> bonne jour
[10:15] <TikityTik> akik: what do you mean?
[10:16] <TikityTik> akik: i have 1 core on the cpu getting Turbo boosted when I use ffmpeg
[10:16] <akik> TikityTik: by default the cpu frequency is not static but it goes up and down automatically
[10:16] <TikityTik> and regardless of the -threads option, it's only 1 core
[10:17] <TikityTik> akik: ok?
[10:17] <TikityTik> i noticed that it is dynamic
[10:20] <akik> TikityTik: sudo apt install stress; sudo stress --cpu 4
[10:20] <akik> then you can watch /proc/cpuinfo if it goes up to the frequency you mentioned
[10:21] <bonhoeffer> hmm. . . in my ubuntu shell in win10, i can't get ping to work: ping: icmp open socket: Permission denied
[10:21] <bonhoeffer> options appreciated
[10:21] <akik> TikityTik: i think they were called cpu governors that you can tell how you want your cpu to behave
[10:22] <TikityTik> Deal with it later as I have to do something
[10:22] <TikityTik> I'll deal*
[10:22] <akik> TikityTik: on my i5-6200u the cores are idling at 400MHz
[10:23] <dani_> cia later..
[10:29] <sudomarize> when i install nvidia-367 drivers, reboot and try to log in, it wont let me. It just keeps sending me back to the login screen
[10:30] <sudomarize> how can i fix this?
[10:35] <CasW> Hey guys, how can I input chinese characters? Preferably with a pinyin input method, like I have the Google pinyin keyboard on my phone
[10:38] <sudomarize> ok apparently it didn't even let me uninstall the drivers
[10:39] <motaka2> hello, i have installed netbeans with integrated jdk8 , but it seems I still have java 7 , what should i do ?
[10:39] <sudomarize> wow why is there no one here?
[10:40] <Ben64> it's way early am in the US
[10:41] <sudomarize> ah ok
[10:44] <motaka2> no one here ?
[10:44] <Ben64> 1851 people
[10:46] <motaka2> but they are sleeping
[10:46] <sudomarize> Ben64: any idea why i can't remove these packages? http://imgur.com/LY1YKU
[10:47] <TheSilentLink> hello is there a way to put a safeguard on the command rm so it ask if you want to delete the file without having to add -i every time
[10:47] <sudomarize> Ben64: i added the graphics-drivers repo and installed nvidia-367, and low im in a login bootloop
[10:47] <sudomarize> (i.e. if i try to login it just send me back to the login screen)
[10:47] <Ben64> what video card do you have
[10:48] <Ben64> and that link doesn't work sudomarize
[10:48] <sudomarize> Ben64: it's for a 960, but it's not installed yet as it arrives later today
[10:48] <Ben64> then why did you install the driver?
[10:48] <sudomarize> Ben64: http://imgur.com/yLY1YKU
[10:48] <sudomarize> Ben64: so it's ready for when i install the GPU
[10:49] <Ben64> weird
[10:49] <Ben64> so what video card do you have now
[10:50] <sudomarize> Ben64: just a G3258, no video card
[10:50] <Ben64> there is a video card
[10:50] <sudomarize> Ben64: there's not
[10:50] <Ben64> or you'd have no video
[10:50] <sudomarize> integrated graphics from the G3258 i'm guessing then
[10:50] <sudomarize> but no dedicated GPU
[10:53] <Ben64> doesn't look like nvidia was properly installed either
[10:54] <sudomarize> Ben64: weird
[10:54] <sudomarize> should i just reinstall? it's a new install so it's not a huge deal if i hve to
[10:55] <sudomarize> i'd obviously prefer not to, but if there's no solution...
[10:55] <OLderDan> @TheSilentLink use alias?
[10:56] <sudomarize> Ben64: bah screw it, i'll just reinstall
[10:56] <TheSilentLink> OLderDan: yea that is why I did!
[10:56] <Ben64> sudomarize: its some kind of snappy thing, which i have no experience with
[10:56] <Ben64> in the future, don't install drivers for stuff you don't have :D
[10:59] <sudomarize> Ben64: ok xP
[10:59] <sudomarize> Ben64: are you sure the same thing wouldn't happen even if i had the gpu installed though?
[11:00] <Ben64> sudomarize: nope
[11:01] <Ben64> but at least could get nvidia working
[11:01] <Ben64> impossible for it to work without an nvidia card
[11:01] <sudomarize> ok good point
[11:09] <greenjack> anyone know a good text based audio player?
[11:12] <TheSilentLink> is there a program I can install where it will give me a joke?
[11:12] <TheSilentLink> if I type something into the terminal?
[11:12] <[1]c0mrade> .
[11:17] <BluesKaj> Hi folks
[11:18] <solitario3> ciao a tutti
[11:18] <dury> hi there channel
[11:22] <dury> I got a usb stick totally 4gb but one partition it's only readonly how to make it writable
[11:24] <dury> I want to take advantage of all its entirety... I've tried with gparted not success
[11:26] <MonkeyDust> dury  in nautilus, do you see it listed on the left? if yes: right click on it and format
[11:28] <dury> MonkeyDust, error formatting it
[11:29] <MonkeyDust> dury  more specifically...
[11:31] <dury> MonkeyDust, can I paste it
[11:31] <MonkeyDust> !paste
[11:31] <dury> MonkeyDust, right
[11:32] <motaka2> hello, i have installed netbeans with integrated jdk8 , but it seems I still have java 7 , what should i do ?
[11:33] <dury> MonkeyDust, http://paste.ubuntu.com/16984047/
[11:34] <dury> MonkeyDust, got it?
[11:34] <ozbrk> guys I need somewhere to get support for raw therapee
[11:35] <MonkeyDust> dury  try ubuntu's Disk Utility
[11:36] <MonkeyDust> ozbrk  this is ubuntu support
[11:36] <ioria> !info rawtherapee
[11:37] <dury> MonkeyDust, can't even disk utility not format option though
[11:38] <ozbrk> MonkeyDust, oh man really.
[11:38] <dury> motaka2, install g alternatives
[11:38] <ozbrk> MonkeyDust, thats why I asked for where I can get support for the program I didn't told the issue
[11:38] <motaka2> dury: i should run that with sudo ?
[11:39] <dury> motaka2, that's right
[11:39] <motaka2> dury: donkarlo@donkarlo:/var/www/Java/Test1/dist$ sudo install g alternatives
[11:39] <motaka2> install: cannot stat ‘g’: No such file or directory
[11:39] <dury> motaka2, there is GUI
[11:40] <motaka2> dury: ?
[11:40] <dury> motaka2, one minute
[11:40] <motaka2> thx
[11:43] <dury> motaka2, are u there?
[11:43] <motaka2> dury: Yes
[11:44] <dury> motaka2, ok can you try sudo apt-get install galternatives  just that ... all right?
[11:45] <motaka2> dury: running ...
[11:45] <dury> motaka2, installation success?
[11:45] <motaka2> dury: no
[11:46] <dury> motaka2, sudo apt-get install galternatives did you do that?
[11:46] <dury> motaka2, sudo apt-get install galternatives
[11:47] <motaka2> dury: http://paste.ubuntu.com/16984384/
[11:48] <dury> motaka2, first you have to install JDK 8 properly
[11:49] <motaka2> dury: I installed the one bundled in netbeans, that was not enough ?
[11:49] <dury> motaka2, isn't install yet
[11:49] <dury> motaka2, one sec.
[11:51] <motaka2> dury: please note that I am in iran and maybe the trouble is because oracle doesnt give services to iran
[11:51] <dury> can you do this http://tecadmin.net/install-oracle-java-8-jdk-8-ubuntu-via-ppa/#
[11:52] <dury> motaka2, follow this http://tecadmin.net/install-oracle-java-8-jdk-8-ubuntu-via-ppa/#
[11:52] <motaka2> dury: it didnt succed yesterday , if you want i will re run
[11:54] <dury> motaka2, so you did or tried that yesterday http://tecadmin.net/install-oracle-java-8-jdk-8-ubuntu-via-ppa/#  right?
[11:54] <motaka2> dury: yes
[11:55] <dury> motaka2, I see
[11:55] <dury> motaka2, mmmm... let me see
[11:57] <motaka2> dury: netbeans can compile java files using java8 and i see the results of running them in netbeans terminal, but when i use java - jar "file.jar" it produces errors
[11:58] <dury> motaka2, I don't know sorry
[11:58] <syeekick> hey popey !
[11:58] <motaka2> dury: no problem thanks for your care
[11:58] <MonkeyDust> motaka2  type    /j ##java     <-- double #
[11:58] <dury> motaka2, I  thought you got problems installing jdk 8, though
[11:59] <ams__> I'm trying to fake my mac address, but whenever I connect to the wifi using the network manager UI it sets it back. Anyway to set it permanently? `sudo ifconfig wlan0 hw ether 00:11:22:33:44:55` is the command I'm using.
[11:59] <motaka2> MonkeyDust: donkarlo@donkarlo:/var/www/Java/Test1/dist$ /j ##java     <-- double #
[11:59] <motaka2> bash: /j: No such file or directory
[12:00] <MonkeyDust> motaka2  type it here in irc
[12:00] <motaka2> dury: it seems jdk8 is only used by netbeans
[12:00] <dury> MonkeyDust, can I format the entire usb by terminal
[12:01] <dury> MonkeyDust, maybe it will work better
[12:01] <motaka2> MonkeyDust: very funny because they say I have to ask in ubuntu
[12:01] <MonkeyDust> dury  http://askubuntu.com/questions/517354/terminal-method-of-formatting-storage-drive
[12:01] <dury> MonkeyDust, right
[12:02] <ozbrk> I need a photography workflow softare but current ones are running so slow
[12:03] <ozbrk> you just enter the section and wait the program to render it
[12:03] <ozbrk> unlike the adobe lightroom it provides real time rendering
[12:05] <ozbrk> reallyl wondering about why
[12:05] <ozbrk> really*
[12:07] <FredUbuntu> Hello, I would like to try a bugg fix on musescore https://launchpad.net/~logan/+archive/ubuntu/arb/+sourcepub/6486195/+listing-archive-extra  but i don't know wich file to download ( i'm on Ubuntu Studio 64bits). when i go there : https://launchpad.net/~logan/+archive/ubuntu/arb/+build/9860098 , i see 3files at the end of the page
[12:14] <dury> /dev/sdc read-only file system how to convert it as writable file system
[12:15] <exSnake> i'm trying to get process info by pid, is there a way using grep to do this?
[12:18] <MonkeyDust> exSnake  try pgrep
[12:18] <TheSilentLink> what is the command to output the terminal into a webpage?
[12:19] <codenamepod> Bootable USB is not working with Ubuntu 16.04 preinstalled.
[12:19] <codenamepod> And, Ubuntu itself seem to be corrupted.
[12:20] <exSnake> Monkey, i mean, i have the pid
[12:20] <exSnake> i was looking to grep like:
[12:20] <exSnake> ps -ef | grep '4545'
[12:21] <exSnake> but didn't work like that
[12:22] <MonkeyDust> exSnake  works here, so i guess 4545 simply doesnt exist
[12:23] <exSnake> oh yeah, u're right...
[12:23] <exSnake> what's the difference between pid an ppid?
[12:24] <akik> dury: sudo mount -o remount,rw /filesystem might work
[12:24] <MonkeyDust> exSnake  "In addition to a unique process ID, each process is assigned a parent process ID (PPID) that tells which process started it. The PPID is the PID of the process’s parent." ... https://delightlylinux.wordpress.com/2012/06/25/what-is-pid-and-ppid/
[12:24] <exSnake> so it's fork of the main one
[12:25] <nikasha> hi
[12:25] <dury> http://paste.ubuntu.com/16985546/
[12:25] <akik> exSnake: not necessarily a fork, but parent and child
[12:25] <dury> akik, http://paste.ubuntu.com/16985546/
[12:26] <akik> dury: use the mount point as last argument
[12:26] <ozbrk> I really sorry to say this but I have to delete ubuntu again
[12:26] <ozbrk> there is no alternative for photography in tihs world
[12:26] <anom> hai gang
[12:27] <ozbrk> have a good time mates
[12:27] <MonkeyDust> ozbrk  if you don't get an answer here, try in #ubuntustudio
[12:27] <anom> any of you use a wireless headset/headphone with ubuntu? if is which one?
[12:27] <anom> trying to find something that is good and works. lol
[12:27] <ozbrk> MonkeyDust, it is not about the os mate
[12:27] <dury> akik, how is it?
[12:27] <M2RDM> is hack easy to learn ?
[12:27] <ozbrk> MonkeyDust, it is about the software support. I saw too many dead photography projects here
[12:27] <akik> dury: sudo mount -o rw /dev/sdc /filesystem (by default the mount is rw)
[12:27] <dury> akik, don't understand in other words if you can please
[12:28] <ozbrk> MonkeyDust, Darktable and rawtherapee with Digikam are only the standalone softwares and non of them satisfied me. They have lack of ease of use
[12:28] <ozbrk> MonkeyDust, No real time prewiews or fast rendering.
[12:29] <M2RDM> is hack easy to learn ?
[12:29] <ozbrk> MonkeyDust, I will keep ubuntu installed maybe I don't know maybe one day photography in open spurce world will grown. I hope you get me
[12:29] <akik> M2RDM: no. do you have an ubuntu support question?
[12:29] <nikasha> yes, me
[12:29] <Javabean> have your tried shotwell?
[12:29] <nikasha> it's about steam os
[12:30] <dury> akik, is missing /something I don't know what filesystem
[12:30] <ozbrk> tes
[12:30] <ozbrk> yes
[12:30] <nikasha> I have a problem with the resolution in Team Fortress2
[12:30] <ozbrk> and hated it rightaway
[12:30] <akik> dury: make an empty directory where you'll mount /dev/sdc. actually i just noticed that you should use a partition like /dev/sdc1, not /dev/sdc
[12:30] <Javabean> have you read the digikam manual, your issues could be because things are named differently.
[12:31] <ozbrk> I tried it too
[12:31] <nikasha> my Desktop can see well but when I run Team Fortress Can see well but the mouse can fit with the resolution
[12:31] <ozbrk> I'm trying for weeks
[12:31] <nikasha> can't*
[12:31] <Javabean> what were you using on windows/mac?
[12:31] <ozbrk> UFRaw, Raw Theraphee, Darktable
[12:31] <ozbrk> yes
[12:31] <ozbrk> Dualboot system
[12:31] <ozbrk> umm
[12:32] <Javabean> i wonder if they would run under wine
[12:32] <ozbrk> Adobe Lightroom/Photoshop and etc.
[12:32] <ozbrk> no they can't too complex for wine
[12:32] <ams__> I'm really struggling to change my wlan0 mac address permanently on ubuntu 16.04. Anyone got any pointers? After changing it the wifi doesn't work (not internet traffic), so network manager re-connects and blats my spoofed mac.
[12:33] <ozbrk> guys I'm not offensive  I really fall in love with ubuntu and keep using it since 10.04 witnessed the development and amazed but
[12:33] <ozbrk> I'm a photographer at the end
[12:34] <dury> akik, http://paste.ubuntu.com/16985859/
[12:34] <ozbrk> there is nothing for me. But  I will keep installed to come back
[12:34] <Javabean> https://appdb.winehq.org/ several systems you mentioned are shown to run under wine
[12:34] <ozbrk> not with all features and they will run too slow
[12:35] <ozbrk> lack of performance as expected
[12:35] <akik> dury: pastebin sudo parted -l
[12:35] <ozbrk> nd just the programs not plug-ins
[12:36] <david_> hi all, trying to install linux-firmware-nonfree to get wifi working but package can't be found and i don't know why. have updated recently
[12:36] <Javabean> ah, i only looks at ratings...not details
[12:36] <ozbrk> ok guys
[12:36] <ozbrk> see you later
[12:37] <ozbrk> I hope you all know it is nothing wrong with to use what do you need
[12:37] <ozbrk> have a good and open day
[12:37] <ozbrk> cya
[12:37] <Javabean> sorry "I" couldn't help you
[12:38] <david_> sorry accidentally dc'd
[12:38] <ozbrk> no one could you are not a Rawtherappy or Darktable developer
[12:38] <Javabean> nor am i an ubuntu/wine developer, i am just a random dude that tried
[12:38] <akik> ozbrk: nobody forces you to use linux. it's not for everybody and not for all use cases
[12:39] <ozbrk> this is their jjob to improve their projects to win us for Open Source world. They have to be real competitors to Adobe
[12:39] <ozbrk> akik, I know mate told ya reaslly enjoyed
[12:40] <ozbrk> akik, I know mate told ya really enjoyed and development is really good even steam and insurgency (games) are here now three years ago those are only dreams
[12:40] <Javabean> ozbrk, maybe try #digikam... its the channel that develops/assists with digikam
[12:40] <MonkeyDust> ozbrk  you can cntribute with your input, suggestions, financial gifts etc
[12:41] <ozbrk> MonkeyDust, As I said I will leave ubuntu installed not remove it as I'm using windows again. I will give feedbacks to force developers
[12:41] <sig> hi, when I switch to full-screen on my browser (say, youtube), and alt-tab to an app on another monitor, the fullscreen stops
[12:41] <ozbrk> Javabean, I will give feedbaks to them
[12:41] <sig> can I make it somehow so that one monitor is full-screen, and I could work on the other monitor?
[12:42] <ozbrk> ok guys cya
[12:42] <Javabean> let them have time to respond, its a small room and who knows what their timezone is
[12:42] <Javabean> see you next time ozbrk
[12:45] <akik> dury: most of the time you would have a fat32 or ntfs partition on a usb stick. it is possible to format it as ext3/ext4
[12:45] <dury> akik, http://paste.ubuntu.com/16986211/ want to make this usb stick one partition
[12:46] <dury> akik, read and write in win or linux
[12:48] <dury> akik, so... what I can do, then?
[12:49] <dury> akik, that partition is fat16
[12:49] <mingrammer__> Hi
[12:50] <elNewberino> Hey, got a little problem: Running ubuntu 14.04 and while i can still get into the login screen and even start a guest-session, i get a black screen once i log into my user account.
[12:50] <akik> dury: sudo mount -t msdos /dev/sdc1 /mountpoint
[12:52] <dury> akik, after that command here is the result: mount: mount point /mountpoint does not exist
[12:53] <akik> dury: you need to create an empty directory where you'll mount it
[12:54] <akik> dury: your file manager should be able to do it automatically
[12:55] <dury> akik, empty directory where in /dev/sdc
[12:56] <dury> akik, empty directory where in /dev/sdc or what?
[12:56] <akik> dury: don't touch files under /dev
[12:56] <akik> dury: create an empty directory for example in /media/username
[12:57] <dury> akik, empty directory where in /home/user for instance
[12:57] <akik> dury: anywhere :)
[12:58] <elNewberino> Anyone got an idea what might cause the black screen? Thought about drivers but then it would be black for guest-sessions as well, wouldnt it?
[12:58] <dury> akik, ok...
[12:58] <akik> dury: by default ubuntu mount the removable storage under /media/username
[12:58] <dury> akik, thanks to be so patient with me really appreciate it
[12:59] <hexhex> can i talk in here without a registered nick test?
[12:59] <SchrodingersScat> hexhex: received
[12:59] <hexhex> as the busiest room you can join on the most popular network, i put you in charge
[12:59] <exSnake> is there a way to grep file created on a certain mont?
[12:59] <exSnake> is there a way to grep file created on a certain month?*
[13:00] <akik> dury: i remember something that some new usb sticks might need some special instructions
[13:00] <hexhex> does anyone know where i can make enough money to pay for my weed in a chatroom?
[13:00] <SchrodingersScat> exSnake: check out 'find' it can select files that were modified in a certain range and then feed that into grep to grep what you want
[13:00] <hexhex> thanks SchrodingersScat
[13:01] <SchrodingersScat> !support | hexhex this chat is for ubuntu support
[13:01] <exSnake> i tried with find but didn't work: ls -ld `find ./.. ` | grep -e ' May '
[13:01] <exSnake> give me error
[13:01] <hexhex> SchrodingersScat: as the busiest room, i put ubuntu on world support
[13:02] <akik> !usb
[13:02] <dury> akik, after that command: mount: /dev/sdc is write-protected, mounting read-only  I want to make it writable
[13:03] <hexhex> We are now telling everyone ubuntu is behind  and they support
[13:03] <SchrodingersScat> exSnake: find has a bunch of options that may help you, here's one person's question that seemed maybe similar, http://stackoverflow.com/questions/5289420/unix-bash-listing-files-modified-in-specific-month
[13:04] <akik> dury: you could try sudo dosfsck -av /dev/sdc1
[13:05] <akik> dury: umount it first
[13:05] <exSnake> wait maybe i did it, but didn't know how to grep out the result to a file... tried with: ls -ld `find ./..` | grep -e ' May '
[13:05] <exSnake> but if i add
[13:05] <exSnake> ls -ld `find ./..` | grep -e ' May ' > output.txt
[13:05] <akik> dury: man dosfsck
[13:05] <exSnake> i get errore like: ls: cannot access
[13:06] <hexhex> free software ubuntu chatroom technology, anyone link me please?
[13:08] <dury> akik, this might need special instructions I guess...
[13:08] <dury> akik, http://paste.ubuntu.com/16987104/
[13:08] <dury> akik, still read-only file system
[13:10] <MonkeyDust> dury  sure the usb stick is not damaged?
[13:10] <akik> dury: /dev/sdc is the whole device. /dev/sdc1 is your fat16 partition
[13:11] <sourav> fefefe
[13:11] <Liga> Hi i upgraded ubuntu from 14 to 16 LTS and i have Ralink RT3290 wifi card. and now it doesnt work it doest work. cant see network list :( please help
[13:12] <akik> dury: if you don't have any data on the disk now, you could try re-creating the file system on /dev/sdc1 with mkfs.fat
[13:14] <dury> akik, /dev/sdc is not all device /dev/sdc is fat16 partition
[13:16] <dury> akik, /dev/sdc is not all device /dev/sdc is fat16 partition of usb stick
[13:17] <akik> dury: how did you come into this conclusion?
[13:18] <dury> akik, disk utility day that
[13:18] <dury> day = say sorry
[13:19] <akik> dury: run sudo fdisk -l /dev/sdc
[13:19] <dury> akik, ok
[13:23] <dury> akik, this ubsstick has two partitions /dev/sdc and /dev/sdd
[13:24] <akik> dury: you're mixing things now
[13:24] <akik> dury: pastebin sudo fdisk -l /dev/sdc
[13:26] <dury> http://paste.ubuntu.com/16987737/
[13:27] <akik> dury: oh wow i'd guess your stick is broken
[13:27] <dury> akik, the other side
[13:27] <dury> http://paste.ubuntu.com/16987786/
[13:28] <ron__> It is funny the parition type 20, 6b and 49
[13:29] <akik> dury: /dev/sdd seems to be ok. if you look into sizes of /dev/sdc partitions, you'll see that there's something wrong
[13:29] <akik> my mobile's battery is dying soon so i have to stop
[13:30] <Jordan_U> dury: A device named "/dev/sdc" is never a partition. That is how linux names whole disks.
[13:31] <dury> bbl
[13:39] <user2> is there a cpu-z equivalent for 16.04?
[13:40] <gde33> any way to edit system colors with a gui?
[13:40] <Hansheiri> hey all, I have a question: Currently I'm running a dual boot (win8 + ubuntu 14 LTS). I plan to upgrade win8 to win10. I've also read that this will break grub. Is that correct?
[13:41] <gde33> I tried to apply a color profile but I got an internal error
[13:41] <SchrodingersScat> !info hardinfo | user2
[13:41] <MonkeyDust> Hansheiri  yes, if you install windows after linux, grub will be overwritten... yçu can repair this, however
[13:42] <gde33> it seems non of the default themes give good contrast for selected items in unfocused windows?
[13:42] <gde33> I would like them to have a bright color like the orange when it is focused
[13:42] <Hansheiri> MonkeyDust: ok. I'm using full disk encryption on Ubuntu (AFAIR its LUKS + cryptsetup or something). Does this have any influence on reinstalling grub? or does it not matter?
[13:50] <Hansheiri> does anyone know if running LUKS / cryptsetup has any influence on the installation of Grub? (e.g. in case I have to reinstall grub, do I need to pay attention?)
[13:54] <lordcirth> Hansheiri, so long as you have a proper /boot, and your grub config is correct, just updating/reinstalling grub shouldn't have any differences.
[13:54] <lordcirth> Now if you lose your grub config, that could get messy.
[13:55] <Hansheiri> lordcirth: hmmm so the question is if a upgrade from win8 to win10 will mess up /boot or not?
[13:56] <lordcirth> Hansheiri, /boot is it's own partition, so assuming you don't let Windows overwrite it, it will be fine.  But Win10 will overwrite the bootloader with it's own, and you'll need to either chroot into ubuntu from a livecd and reinstall,
[13:56] <lordcirth> Or run that grub repair disk
[13:57] <lordcirth> Although I have not tested it with Win8 or newer bootloaders, it shouldn't make a difference: https://help.ubuntu.com/community/Boot-Repair
[13:58] <Hansheiri> lordcirth: ok, that was my plan (updating to win10 and then run https://help.ubuntu.com/community/Boot-Repair)
[13:58] <Hansheiri> hmmm not sure if I should risk it :P
[13:58] <SchrodingersScat> Hansheiri: https://help.ubuntu.com/community/RecoveringUbuntuAfterInstallingWindows which iirc links to boot-repair
[13:59] <lordcirth> Hansheiri, good.  It should work.  If not, know that you can chroot into your Ubuntu install from a livecd.
[13:59] <Hansheiri> lordcirth: can I chroot into ubuntu when I use full disk encryption?
[13:59] <lordcirth> Hansheiri, yes, but it's a lot harder.
[13:59] <lordcirth> well, ish
[14:00] <SchrodingersScat> !backups | Hansheiri, if you have backups of the info in the luks and win8 then you shouldn't worry that much. Or be comfortable with a liveusb recovering both of those.
[14:00] <lordcirth> You have to decrypt the LUKS using cryptsetup tools, then mount the plaintext block device
[14:01] <ropo> I installed terminator, now whenever i `ctr + alt + t`, the terminator prompts out instedad of the main terminal, how do i disable tht?
[14:02] <lordcirth> ropo, search "default" in menu
[14:02] <Hansheiri> lordcirth: ok, thx!
[14:03] <ropo> lordcirth, under preferences?
[14:03] <ropo> or config?
[14:03] <lordcirth> ropo, probably, but I think if you just search "default" in your menu, you'll get a "default applications" program.
[14:04] <lordcirth> I am not on Unity atm to test
[14:05] <ropo> lordcirth, terminal is not listed in te default app programs
[14:05] <FredUbuntu> Hello, I would like to try a bugg fix on musescore https://launchpad.net/~logan/+archive/ubuntu/arb/+sourcepub/6486195/+listing-archive-extra  but i don't know wich file to download ( i'm on Ubuntu Studio 64bits). when i go there : https://launchpad.net/~logan/+archive/ubuntu/arb/+build/9860098 , i see 3files at the end of the page
[14:06] <lordcirth> ropo, 1 sec I will start an Ubuntu VM
[14:11] <lordcirth> ropo, you can just change the shortcut, Ctrl-Alt+T, to mean "open gnome-terminal" rather than "open default terminal"
[14:12] <ropo> lordcirth, open gnome-terminal is for  the terminator?
[14:12] <lordcirth> ropo, gnome-terminal is the default Ubuntu terminal
[14:12] <lordcirth> Which is what you wanted, right?
[14:12] <ropo> yes
[14:13] <ropo> so in .bashrc file?
[14:13] <ropo> i mean should i add that in?
[14:13] <user2635> I've set up my home to be encrypted, then I use dejadup to backup. If I do a fresh ubuntu install, can I still restore my files?
[14:13] <lordcirth> ropo, no, your terminal emulator has nothing to do with .bashrc
[14:13] <lordcirth> ropo, under keyboard shortcuts, change the meaning of the shortcut.
[14:14] <ropo> oh yes, wait a sec
[14:14] <lordcirth> user2635, dejadup works on the plaintext files, just like you see when logged in, so the encryption is irrelevant
[14:15] <user2635> lordcirth, thanks.. i'm a just a bit worried, I don't even know if the backup works as i'm a linux newb
[14:15] <lordcirth> just like if you download a file into your home directory from the internet, it doesn't matter to it whether it's being encrypted
[14:15] <user2635> lordcirth, is it a bit like veracrypt?
[14:15] <user2635> where its just done on the fly
[14:16] <user2635> I can relax then!
[14:16] <lordcirth> user2635, similar, as in your plaintext files never exist on disk
[14:16] <lordcirth> but different where veracrypt/truecrypt make a single block to store things on, whereas ecryptfs uses a directory
[14:17] <lordcirth> On disk, your home directory is empty :)
[14:17] <user2635> err... I don't understand
[14:17] <user2635> but if you're sure I can restore
[14:17] <user2635> then I'm fine
[14:18] <SchrodingersScat> user2635: the dejadup copy should be encrypted however you chose for dejadup, and your harddrive should be encrypted however you separately set that up.  If you dejadup'd your home then the dejadup copy should only require the dejadup credentials.
[14:19] <user2635> SchrodingersScat, I didn't choose any dejadup creds
[14:19] <user2635> in that case I think its simple
[14:19] <user2635> I'm able to restore with no problems
[14:19] <user2635> SchrodingersScat, lordcirth thanks for the quick replies :)
[14:20] <SchrodingersScat> user2635: I've never used it, should maybe check if there's anything special you need, like gpg keys, to get that setup again.
[14:21] <lordcirth> user2635, on disk, your home dir data is stored in /home/.ecryptfs/$USER/.Private , encrypted, and your home directory is empty.
[14:21] <SchrodingersScat> user2635: from https://wiki.gnome.org/Apps/DejaDup/HowItWorks "Déjà Dup relies on duplicity to handle the encryption, and it uses gpg with a symmetric cipher. Basically, that means it is encrypted just with the password your provide. You will need to remember that password to restore your data. "
[14:22] <lordcirth> When you put your password in, ubuntu decrypts the files on the fly, and shows them in /home/$USER
[14:22] <lordcirth> It's cool stuff
[14:23] <user2635> lordcirth, ohhh I see!
[14:23] <SchrodingersScat> user2635: so you should be fine. And what lordcirth is saying is that really the data is technically on the disk in /home/.ecryptfs/ like he said, and shows the decrypted files in /home/user/foo , so if you backed up /home/user/foo then dejadup sees them as regular files.
[14:23] <ropo> lordcirth, it worked
[14:23] <lordcirth> ^ exactly
[14:23] <ropo> thanks
[14:23] <lordcirth> ropo, you're welcome
[14:24] <ropo> anyways my terminal lags a bit in start, why is that?
[14:24] <user2635> do you know if ubuntu mate comes with dejadup by any chance? not that it matters, I guess I can always install it
[14:24] <lordcirth> user2635, Linux (/unix) is based on a series of programs, each doing their job, and caring as little as possible about how the others do theirs.  This is a good example.
[14:24] <lordcirth> user2635, it's just a package install
[14:24] <ropo> i mean it is blank for sec or two and then shows the "user@machine_name:~$"
[14:24] <user2635> lordcirth, I love the analogy
[14:25] <guest5351> I am using ubuntu 15.10
[14:25] <lordcirth> ropo, you probably have something big in your .bashrc
[14:25] <guest5351> afraid to go to 16.04
[14:25] <SchrodingersScat> !upgrade | guest5351: looking to upgrade? 15.10 support will be ending soon.
[14:25] <ropo> could nvm cause that? lordcirth
[14:26] <everson> Hi can one get TeamSpeak to work on Ubuntu? Thanks
[14:26] <SchrodingersScat> !backups | guest5351: backup and don't be afraid.  Have a liveusb you can use to recover.
[14:26] <SchrodingersScat> everson: yes, teamspeak works fine
[14:26] <lordcirth> ropo, I am not familiar with "nvm"
[14:26] <ropo> guest5351, be aware of your driver!
[14:27] <SchrodingersScat> lordcirth: nvm == nevermind
[14:27] <guest5351> If I upgrade using update_manager is it safe ??
[14:27] <SchrodingersScat> lordcirth: oh, wait, no
[14:27] <everson> SchrodingersScat, thanks. To install it?
[14:27] <everson> SchrodingersScat, I can't find it in software centre
[14:27] <lordcirth> SchrodingersScat, not in this context I think :P
[14:27] <ropo> there's no fglrx for ubuntu 16.04
[14:27] <dury> Jordan_U, are u there?
[14:27] <effectnet> someone said that about 30% of the users here are in Mint.  is that true?
[14:27] <SchrodingersScat> everson: that's not really supported.  It's third party software that may not be respecting of your freedom, you need to get it from their official site then extract it and run a file.
[14:28] <lordcirth> effectnet, I am not aware of a way to get reliable statistics about that.
[14:28] <effectnet> ah.
[14:28] <everson> SchrodingersScat, ok thanks for the help :)
[14:28] <lordcirth> SchrodingersScat, everson https://help.ubuntu.com/community/TeamSpeak
[14:28] <lordcirth> This says it's a "teamspeak-client" package
[14:28] <ropo> guest5351,if you have AMD, AMD dropped support for their proprietary-blob fglrx video driver so it can't be included in 16.04 LTS. The last release AMD did can not be used because it is incompatible with the newer x.org display server.
[14:28] <lordcirth> Not all packages show up in Software Center, I prefer Synaptic
[14:28] <Leagnus> hi! Is there an y way to launch OpenBox in Unity?
[14:29] <Leagnus> OpenBox menu
[14:29] <SchrodingersScat> !info teamspeak-client | lordcirth
[14:29] <lordcirth> hmm.  Guess it's an old entry.  Should be updated
[14:29] <dury> akik, are u there?
[14:29] <Leagnus> I need pipemenu in Unity
[14:30] <user2635> lordcirth, SchrodingersScat reason why I need to backup is because my partitions are not right. I was advised to rearrange it, its currently in this order /swap, root, home
[14:30] <akik> dury: i am here but so are many other people
[14:30] <lordcirth> Leagnus, try "openbox --replace"
[14:30] <lordcirth> user2635, what was the reason for this advice?
[14:30] <SchrodingersScat> everson: they make it easy though, just extract their files to a place, run ./ts3client_runscript.sh and it'll start, probably run you through the setup wizard and then you're done.
[14:31] <lordcirth> It's not how I would do it, but I don't see major problems
[14:31] <Leagnus> lordcirth: no, its will be Openbox, not Unity
[14:31] <user2635> lordcirth, SchrodingersScat - to give you the short version. I need to extend my home partition, but don't know how
[14:31] <lordcirth> Leagnus, you need to run Unity2D
[14:31] <user2635> lordcirth, SchrodingersScat in ubuntu, I don't see this option within 'Disks'
[14:32] <user2635> lordcirth, SchrodingersScat I suspect its because I'm mounting home currently
[14:32] <everson> SchrodingersScat, ok cool thanks again
[14:32] <lordcirth> user2635, oh ok.  Well do you have space to expand into?
[14:32] <lordcirth> user2635, ext4 filesystem?
[14:32] <Leagnus> lordcirth: Unity2D can run while openbox runing?
[14:32] <SchrodingersScat> user2635: you normally can't edit a partition while it's being used, so you could try from a liveusb, but i've never done that with an encrypted drive, can probably use the cryptsetup tools to edit it.
[14:32] <user2635> lordcirth, the space is in front of swap, order is free space, swap, root, home
[14:32] <akik> dury: did you figure out what's wrong with your usb stick?
[14:32] <lordcirth> Leagnus, so some guy on the internet says, anyway: http://askubuntu.com/questions/22055/how-can-i-use-unity-2d-with-another-window-manager-besides-metacity
[14:32] <lerner> hi. xubuntu 16.04 on a clevo m7xsun: the regular way of turning my computer down means, always, having to plug the cable off: I click on turn off and sometimes the screen freezes on the background and stays like that until I unplug the cable, sometimes I get a blank screen and stays like that until I unplug the cable, sometimes I get to see what the computer dows (what programs are being shut down) and freezes on a certain process
[14:32] <lerner> and stays like that until I unplug the cable... Im afraid thats affecting the hdd
[14:32] <dury> akik, this usb stick in nautilus one side is /mnt/usb-General_UDisk-0:0 and /media/user/B89C-54F0
[14:32] <lerner> so please, how do I solve this?
[14:33] <lordcirth> user2635, ah ok.  Is there anything other than stuff in /home to backup?
[14:33] <akik> dury: when you say "one side", what do you mean?
[14:33] <user2635> SchrodingersScat, I think thats why they just told me to backup, wipe it and just install fresh. as its easier than messing around with live
[14:33] <lordcirth> user2635, yes, it is in your case
[14:33] <dury> akik, this usb stick in nautilus one side is /mnt/usb-General_UDisk-0:0 and /media/user/B89C-54F0
[14:33] <EvilAngel> nick Elegant
[14:33] <SchrodingersScat> user2635: always good to have backups, if you value things you've done :^)
[14:34] <dury> sorry to repeat
[14:34] <user2635> lordcirth, not that I know of... I'm assuming everything is stored there though
[14:34] <user2635> lordcirth, my important things are stored there at least but I'm not sure about program settings
[14:34] <lordcirth> user2635, all your downloads, docs, etc should be there.  That being said, there's no harm in just backing up / just in case, if you have the space.
[14:36] <user2635> lordcirth, i'm going to skip it this time
[14:36] <user2635> SchrodingersScat, lordcirth one more question, is there a normal order for partitions? like /, /home, swap?
[14:36] <user2635> or does the order not matter?
[14:36] <SchrodingersScat> user2635: afaik most of the user settings should be in your /home/user/.  If you don't recall changing much in /etc/ or not running a server in /var/www/ then you probably don't need that much more, but it's up to you depending on how you use the machine.
[14:37] <user2635> SchrodingersScat, i'm not a techie so i should be fine
[14:37] <user2635> and I don't run a server
[14:37] <lordcirth> user2635, if you are running out of space, you could just not add a separate /home
[14:37] <lordcirth> That way you don't waste any space.
[14:37] <akik> dury: i don't understand what you mean by one side
[14:38] <user2635> lordcirth, instead of doing a fresh install? good idea actually
[14:38] <lordcirth> user2635, no, when you do a fresh install, I meant
[14:38] <user2635> ohh
[14:38] <lordcirth> Just install with swap and /
[14:38] <SchrodingersScat> user2635: think he means just having / then swap, and then home can pull as much as you choose
[14:38] <lordcirth> if you have / and /home, and fill either one, there will be wasted space in the other.
[14:38] <akik> dury: when you now run "sudo fdisk -l /dev/sdc" does it look ok or does it still contain huge partitions?
[14:39] <dury> akik, when I plug that usb in nautilus appears 2 mounts or volumes: one is 3,8 GB Volume in /media/user/B89C-54F0 and MASTER  /mnt/usb-General_UDisk-0:0 there is *.mp4 file
[14:39] <lordcirth> I rarely make a separate /home, for that and simplicity
[14:39] <SchrodingersScat> user2635: you'd lose a benefit of being able to format / without losing /home/, but wouldn't have to plan how much to set aside for /home/
[14:39] <exSnake> with awk i can print first and third column of a csv file with this: awk -F "," '{print $1  "\t" $4}' csv.txt
[14:39] <exSnake> if i want to create a script where i can pass file and simply output using print $1 $4
[14:39] <exSnake> how i can do?
[14:39] <user2635> SchrodingersScat, do you also juts have a single /?
[14:40] <user2635> just* - like lordcirth
[14:40] <exSnake> example i want to use: awk -f script.awk csv.txt
[14:40] <lordcirth> exSnake, a script that takes one argument, the name of a file, and outputs this awk result on stdout?
[14:40] <exSnake> yes
[14:40] <lordcirth> oh an awk file.
[14:40] <lordcirth> I thought you meant "myscript file"
[14:40] <exSnake> what's the difference?
[14:41] <lordcirth> exSnake, well "myscript.sh csv.txt" is shorter :P
[14:41] <exSnake> i mean a file with instruction like BEGIN { print $1 $4 }
[14:41] <lordcirth> You can make an awk file, or you can make a script which runs this awk command
[14:41] <exSnake> i want to pass to awk a file with the commands to do
[14:41] <user2635> I thought the normal way was /, /home, and swap. I've never known any different, as a normal user I don't know how it will impact me
[14:41] <SchrodingersScat> user2635: yes, but it's completely up to you :)  I considered setting a partition aside on another machine, because I was getting sick of recovering 400-500GB back onto the machine every time I goofed up and needed to reinstall, but then I ended up not. It was a tough call
[14:41] <lordcirth> user2635, mostly, it won't.
[14:42] <lordcirth> You get more space, but you can't reformat /home and / separately, which I doubt you will have any reason to need.
[14:42] <user2635> ok I shall do swap and /
[14:42] <user2635> does the order matter?
[14:42] <lordcirth> SchrodingersScat, personally I mount data dirs for most of my stuff, so my /home isn't big
[14:43] <user2635>  / then swap, swap /
[14:43] <SchrodingersScat> lordcirth: this wasn't home
[14:43] <streulma> Can I make an updated Ubuntu ISO for use with persistent? My persistent file is only 4GB on FAT32
[14:43] <lordcirth> user2635, not much.  I generally put swap first but it probably doesn't matter
[14:43] <user2635> ok i'm almost ready
[14:43] <SchrodingersScat> lordcirth: moot point, I'll be fine though.
[14:44] <user2635> as i'm not very experienced, do I have to tick bootable flag for any of those
[14:44] <user2635> i forgot to mention i'm dual booting windows/linux
[14:44] <user2635> Obviously, I won't touch my windows partitions
[14:44] <lordcirth> user2635, you don't need to use "bootable" grub should take care of that I think
[14:45] <SchrodingersScat> exSnake: bash uses $1 as variables as well, so something like awk -F "," '{print $1  "\t" $4}' $1 #would take the first parameter ./your-script parameter
[14:45] <lordcirth> SchrodingersScat, no, that's what the ' ' are for
[14:45] <user2635> lordcirth, great, thanks
[14:46] <lordcirth> oh nvrm I misread again
[14:46] <lordcirth> SchrodingersScat, exSnake yeah, that's what I meant when I said to make a bash script
[14:48] <exSnake> SchrodingersScat so i cant create a script where i can pass my file?
[14:49] <squinty> streulma,  you can do updates to your iso usb but newer kernels will not be updated.  If you desire new kernels then doing a full install rather than using persistence is the way to go
[14:49] <SchrodingersScat> exSnake: I'm saying you can, if it's just that line it's relatively simple, like 2 lines
[14:49] <exSnake> how?
[14:49] <gde33> I just had some overheated cpu issues, then I reboot, now my system monitor resources tab is empty
[14:49] <streulma> squinty, I use live because running Linux from USB drive always corrupt the system by unclean shutdiwn
[14:49] <exSnake> i tried to write the same command in the script but didn't work
[14:50] <gde33> oh it works again nvm
[14:51] <SchrodingersScat> exSnake: http://paste.ubuntu.com/16990915/
[14:51] <lordcirth> exSnake, make a bash script, put a shebang line " #!/bin/bash " then the line that SchrodingersScat gave you.  Then make it executable.
[14:51] <zolomon> Heya, is there a way to stream audio from my ubuntu 16.04 to my windows 10 PC that has speakers connected to it? I would like to join audio from both machines to the same speaker set.
[14:51] <zolomon> Both machines are on the same LAN.
[14:52] <swenzel> I have this problem https://help.ubuntu.com/16.04/ubuntu-help/net-wireless-find.html but none of the points fit
[14:52] <lerner> https://bugs.launchpad.net/ubuntu/+source/linux/+bug/1526661 < what command do I need to get all the information the uploader submitted? (apport version, architecture...)
[14:53] <swenzel> My windows boot has no problem finding the network but Ubuntu 16.04 doesn't list it...
[14:53] <lordcirth> zolomon, try mpd http://mpd.wikia.com/wiki/Clients
[14:53] <user2635> For those who use dejadup, is there a way to find out how long a backup took?
[14:53] <SchrodingersScat> lordcirth: didn't think mpd's streamed
[14:53] <lordcirth> swenzel, what is your network card?
[14:54] <lordcirth> SchrodingersScat, it's a client/server model, it doesn't care if it's localhost or lan or internet
[14:54] <lordcirth> you run mpd on linux and a client on windows, in this cas
[14:54] <SchrodingersScat> lordcirth: the audio would still be on the linux machine, no?
[14:55] <lordcirth> Oh good question
[14:55] <exSnake> oh it work!
[14:55] <lordcirth> SchrodingersScat, I think you are right :(
[14:55] <SchrodingersScat> exSnake: great!
[14:55] <lordcirth> Different use case
[14:56] <exSnake> but if i want to make the other way, i mean, passing to awk a file with the commands to do?
[14:56] <lordcirth> exSnake, then you write a file in Awk
[14:56] <exSnake> i have to include in the awk the csv file name too?
[14:56] <exSnake> or i can pass it?
[14:56] <swenzel> lordcirth, lshw says BCM4313 802.11bgn Wireless Network Adapter
[14:56] <SchrodingersScat> exSnake: you've lost me, I no longer know what your goal is.
[14:57] <exSnake> lol
[14:57] <lordcirth> SchrodingersScat, awk allows you to write files in Awk (the language) and load them into awk (the command) with -f
[14:57] <exSnake> i mean, awk can take as arguments with -f a file
[14:57] <exSnake> what lord said...
[14:57] <exSnake> this is what i want to do
[14:57] <exSnake> lol
[14:58] <lordcirth> swenzel, http://ubuntuforums.org/showthread.php?t=2232939
[14:58] <computer> hello ubuntu people, trying to install lubuntu on an old HP laptop, no CD rom, tyring to boot from USB but getting GRUB, how to boot to install?
[14:58] <exSnake> but i'm wondering if i can pass the file name too, or i have to write it all in the awk
[14:58] <lordcirth> swenzel, tl;dr sudo apt-get install b43-fwcutter firmware-b43-installer
[14:59] <lordcirth> computer, you are using the BIOS boot menu to choose the USB?
[14:59] <computer> lordcirth: yes
[14:59] <lordcirth> computer, and it is booting grub on the hard drive?
[14:59] <SchrodingersScat> zolomon: I can't think of many great ways, might depend on what audio. if you mean all system sounds then a vnc might be the easiest? there's probably a way to make a more complicated setup
[14:59] <bozsikarmand> Hi! I have a problem: I have installed zsh, set it to default: sudo chsh -s $(which zsh)
[14:59] <bozsikarmand> , installed ohmyzsh, the i'd like to change the thewme to Agnoster. ZSH_THEME="agnoster", Copied patched Menlo font to /usr/share/fonts/truetype, installed patched fonts from here https://powerline.readthedocs.org/en/latest/installation/linux.html#font-installation
[14:59] <bozsikarmand> , refreshed font cache. but ufortunately some unicode chars dont dhow up in gnome terminal
[14:59] <bozsikarmand> what should i do?
[14:59] <computer> lordcirth: i just get grub, if i choose the HDD i get windows installation
[15:00] <lordcirth> computer, doesn't grub have an option to run/install Lubuntu?
[15:00] <computer> what is the command?
[15:00] <SchrodingersScat> exSnake: oh, k, well you can move the bash variables around as you need them. The bash parameters follow $1 $2 $3 etc. so you can add more and assign them as you please.
[15:00] <computer> lordcirth: what is the command?
[15:00] <lordcirth> computer, did you make this liveUSB with a Lubuntu ISO?
[15:01] <lordcirth> computer, oh, you have a grub command line, not a menu?
[15:01] <swenzel> lordcirth, thx I'll try that
[15:01] <computer> lordcirth: i did yes, using ubuntu, on a macbook pro, would this make a difference?
[15:01] <computer> lordcirth: yes command line
[15:02] <lordcirth> computer, that should be fine.  Maybe it got corrupted?  Try just making the USB again, double checking the guides, if you have another computer around still.
[15:02] <exSnake> SchrodingersScat so i can pass it like: awk -f myscript.awk file.csv ?
[15:02] <craigbass76> WHere's samba logging these days? I'm typing systemctl start smbd and failing. /var/log/syslog is all I can find getting updates when I do this, and isn't real handy info.
[15:02] <computer> lordcirth: i tried with lubuntu and ubuntu live USBs both of which worked on aother comptuer recently (yesterday)
[15:03] <lordcirth> computer, but on this laptop you get a Grub command line?
[15:03] <computer> lordcirth: yes
[15:03] <SchrodingersScat> exSnake: idk awk ;(
[15:03] <lordcirth> exSnake, you are into awk-specific territory now, there are lots of guides online
[15:04] <lordcirth> computer, what exactly is the grub prompt?
[15:05] <squinty> craigbass76,  /var/log/samba  here on 16.04
[15:06] <computer> lordcirth: GNU GRUB 2.02 beta2-9ubuntu1.3 then some introduction line then grub>
[15:09] <Norux> EriC^^?
[15:10] <explosive> yes Norux
[15:10] <craigbass76> squinty: I read them, just noticed that the time stamps were yesterday
[15:11] <Norux> do you remember, I installed ubuntu 16.04 on my pc right?
[15:11] <Guest84824> q
[15:11] <computer> lordcirth: any idea what i can do?
[15:11] <Norux> now my graphics driver doesn't work anymore, for whatever reason, explosive
[15:12] <craigbass76> squinty: I meant I hadn't read them.
[15:12] <lerner> i just filled a bug on launchpad and after uploading apport, I get: dpkg-query: no packages found matching linux
[15:12] <lerner> do I need install "linux"?
[15:13] <swenzel> lordcirth: didn't work
[15:13] <swenzel> and I already got the proprietary drivers from the additional drivers list
[15:15] <gde33> anyone use multiple monitors with vlc? I have a black frame inserted when focusing it in full screen and with a maximized window it inserts a black frame when it loses focus.
[15:16] <swenzel> lordcirth: I'm going through the guide here http://askubuntu.com/questions/55868/installing-broadcom-wireless-drivers right now
[15:17] <lordcirth> swenzel, did you reboot after installing those?
[15:17] <swenzel> lordcirth: yes, I did
[15:17] <lordcirth> computer, this is a very strange problem.
[15:18] <lordcirth> swenzel, if you do lspci, find the ID of the wifi card, then do "lspci -vv <ID>", does it mention a driver in use?
[15:20] <swenzel> lordcirth: it says "kernel driver in use: wl"
[15:21] <lordcirth> swenzel, the forum thread says that removing wl made it work for some people
[15:23] <computer> lordcirth: i will try that thanks
[15:28] <Guest_85757> Allah is doing
[15:28] <Guest_85757> sun is not doing Allah is doing
[15:28] <Guest_85757> moon is not doing Allah is doing
[15:28] <daed> Guest_85757: i disagree
[15:29] <BrianBlaze420> bad command or file name
[15:29] <Guest_85757> stars are not doing Allah is doing
[15:29] <MonkeyDust> Guest_85757  stop
[15:29] <lordcirth> I would probably disagree if I knew what he was trying to say
[15:29] <Guest_85757> planets are not doing Allah is doing
[15:29] <BrianBlaze420> say the same thing about goats
[15:29] <BrianBlaze420> doh
[15:30] <Norux> explosive, Do you remember that I installed 16.04 on my computer? I now get errors from the graphics card driver and the computer won't boot
[15:30] <lerner> what a strange channel to troll
[15:30] <lordcirth> Norux, what card and what driver?
[15:31] <lordcirth> lerner, high traffic
[15:31] <Norux> lordcirth, Radeon R9 270x, driver no idea. I know that 16.04 is not supported by amd
[15:31] <lerner> but still to think somebody here is in need of being preached...
[15:32] <lordcirth> Norux, won't boot, or won't boot to desktop?
[15:32] <swenzel> lordcirth: it's using bcma-pci-bridge now... If I'm not mistaken it should, however, be using b43 right?
[15:32] <lordcirth> swenzel, well does it work?
[15:33] <swenzel> lordcirth: nope... still not seeing all the networks
[15:33] <Norux> lordcirth, I got an error message from rc.local saying "Graphics not found" or something, but I get to my desktop when booting in recovery mode
[15:34] <Norux> lordcirth, so i don't get a console when I boot normally.
[15:35] <lordcirth> Norux, ok, look in /var/log/Xorg.0.log
[15:36] <Norux> lordcirth, http://paste.ubuntu.com/16992691/
[15:37] <ciach> Hallo
[15:38] <Norux> hello, ciach
[15:38] <lordcirth> Norux, ok, so you are using the "radeon" driver but it's not loading
[15:39] <lordcirth> Norux, this is posted from recovery mode?
[15:39] <Norux> lordcirth, yes, otherwise i'd not be able to post it
[15:39] <Novell> hi.. I'm using SecureBoot and I'm trying to add my own cert so that I can sign the VMware modules.. I've added my cert with mokutil 10 times, but it still doesn't show up as enrolled.. Also, running sign-file on the modules doesn't seem to do anything at all as the modules still won't get any signing info when checked with modinfo.. Anyone got any pointers ?
[15:40] <lordcirth> Norux, do you have a Xorg.1.log or a Xorg.0.log.old ?
[15:40] <MonkeyDust> Novell  how is that ubuntu related?
[15:40] <Novell> MonkeyDust: how is it not since that is what I'm using
[15:40] <Norux> lordcirth, Xorg.0.log, Xorg.0.log.old, Xorg.1.log, Xorg.1.log.old
[15:41] <Norux> and Xorg.failsafe.log and Xorg.failsafe.log.old
[15:41] <lordcirth> Novell, #vmware might be better able to help
[15:42] <Novell> really ? So should I ask how to sign the VirtualBox module in the virtualbox channel ?
[15:42] <lordcirth> Norux, look at the dates & times, try to find one that might be from the failed normal boot
[15:42] <elNewberino> Hey, got a little problem: Running ubuntu 14.04 and while i can still get into the login screen and even start a guest-session, i get a black screen once i log into my user account.
[15:42] <lordcirth> Novell, I don't think you're offtopic here, I'm just not sure if anyone here can help you.
[15:43] <Norux> lordcirth, I don't think any of those are
[15:44] <Novell> lordcirth: someone here must have used secureboot and module signing..
[15:44] <lordcirth> elNewberino, did you do updates or anything recently?
[15:45] <lordcirth> Or perhaps edit .bashrc or .bash_profile ?
[15:45] <elNewberino> dont think so.
[15:46] <Norux> lordcirth, i edited .bashrc and the file where the $PATH is stored, if that helps.
[15:46] <lordcirth> elNewberino, ok, use Ctrl+Alt+F2 to get a terminal, and log in as your normal user.
[15:46] <lordcirth> Norux, you edited $PATH?  Are you sure you didn't mess it up?
[15:46] <elNewberino> Its an old Laptop I mostly use for streaming, so didnt really have too much stuff on it, thought it might be pipelight, already uninstalled it though
[15:47] <lordcirth> Breaking $PATH can break weird things
[15:47] <elNewberino> login via terminal works fine
[15:47] <lordcirth> elNewberino, ok, so that narrows it down
[15:47] <lordcirth> elNewberino, is the last login you tried your real user?
[15:47] <Norux> lordcirth, I wrote PATH+="~/.scripts":$PATH
[15:48] <lordcirth> If not, try it again, get the black screen, etc, then read /var/log/Xorg.0.log
[15:48] <Norux> in my .bashrc
[15:48] <elNewberino> other than pipelight.. virtual boy, firefox+plugins, thunderbird. think thats all i got on it.
[15:48] <elNewberino> well only got one user on it
[15:48] <Norux> that didn't help, so I edited the PATH file (whatever it's called again).
[15:49] <lordcirth> Norux, that adds it twice
[15:49] <Norux> lordcirth, wrong, I know, I removed it from the .bashrc then
[15:50] <Norux> woops that "wrong" shouldn't be there haha
[15:50] <lordcirth> Norux, so what file did you edit?
[15:51] <Norux> lordcirth, /etc/environment
[15:51] <lordcirth> Norux, ok, and what, exactly, did you add?
[15:52] <Norux> lordcirth, http://paste.ubuntu.com/16993434/
[15:53] <lordcirth> Norux, ok, and before it was similar, just without your appended bit?
[15:53] <lordcirth> (I am not on Ubuntu atm)
[15:53] <Norux> exactly
[15:54] <lordcirth> Norux, ok, well that's probably not your problem.  The comment about path was not to you, originally
[15:54] <Norux> lordcirth, I know, I just knew that I edited it so maybe that was the problem
[15:54] <Techspectre> why would the password for gksu be different than sudo?
[15:55] <lordcirth> Techspectre, "su" requires the password of the user you switch to
[15:55] <lordcirth> As opposed to sudo which requires your own password, then checks if you're allowed to become other users
[15:56] <Techspectre> lordcirth, oh so for a gtk dialog for sudo I should use gksudo?
[15:56] <lordcirth> Techspectre, so if you want the same behaviour as sudo, use "gksudo"
[15:56] <Techspectre> Aahhh
[15:56] <Techspectre> Thank you lordcirth
[15:57] <lordcirth> np
[16:01] <elNewberino> So  any Idea what might cause my blackscreen-problem? Or should i just go reinstall?
[16:01] <lordcirth> elNewberino, you must have missed my message.
[16:01] <lordcirth> Make sure that your last graphical login is the broken one, so it gets logged
[16:01] <lordcirth> elNewberino, then read /var/log/Xorg.0.log
[16:02] <arunangshu> how to deactivate password after waking ubuntu from sleep mode
[16:03] <lordcirth> arunangshu, search "lock" on menu, settings are there
[16:04] <elNewberino> ok, anything special i should be looking for?
[16:04] <lordcirth> elNewberino, search for (EE) - errors
[16:05] <arunangshu> thanks lordcirth
[16:06] <arunangshu> is there any gui application for configuring ppope connection
[16:06] <elNewberino> Failed to load module nvidia. module does not exist. That doesnt sound right
[16:07] <Norux> lordcirth, so do you have any idea what is the reason for that?
[16:08] <hispeed67> what is a good channel to discuss video hardware?
[16:09] <squinty> !alis
[16:09] <hispeed67> thnx
[16:09] <arunangshu> is there any gui application for configuring ppope connection
[16:10] <Zeranoe> I'd like to securely overwrite unused disk space with Ubuntu. Is there a tool for that?
[16:10] <hispeed67> zeranoe: gparted ?
[16:10] <explosive> Zeranoe: securedelete
[16:10] <explosive> !info securedelete | Zeranoe
[16:10] <explosive> !info secure-delete | Zeranoe
[16:11] <lordcirth> elNewberino, if it doesn't find nvidia, it will load nouveau.  Look for the last error.
[16:13] <catopett> I have a DVD with MAC TIGER OS, and trying to mount it, but cannot get it mounted, neither can i get thie iso mounted, need help
[16:13] <catopett> I have a DVD with MAC TIGER OS, and trying to mount it, but cannot get it mounted, neither can i get the iso mounted, need help
[16:13] <elNewberino> Nouveau(GO)[XvMC]failed to initialize extension
[16:16] <catopett> I have a DVD with MAC TIGER OS, and trying to mount it, but cannot get it mounted, neither can i get the iso mounted, need help, geting the error, WRONG FS
[16:17] <yorwos> any idea why i get this message when apt-get update ? - W:Failed to fetch http://gr.archive.ubuntu.com/ubuntu/dists/trusty-updates/main/binary-amd64/Packages  Hash Sum mismatch
[16:18] <JohnC> is Ubuntu-Mate Free Software or Open Source?
[16:20] <JohnC> becuase in the welcome windows in the introuction says open source
[16:20] <JohnC> ...
[16:22] <JohnC> xD
[16:22] <teward> JohnC: most of the underlying software in any of the Ubuntu variants is Free and/or Open Source
[16:22] <teward> except maybe proprietary drivers needed for certain hardware
[16:22] <JohnC> But free and open are no the same thing
[16:22] <teward> oh you're one of those people, okay... *goes to do something productive instead of arguing*
[16:23] <catopett> JohnC: What is the difference then?
[16:23] <JohnC> hahah
[16:23] <JohnC> go and look for the different
[16:24] <JohnC> difference
[16:25] <catopett> JohnC: I have a DVD with MAC TIGER OS, and trying to mount it in UBUNTU, but cannot get it mounted, neither can i get the iso mounted, need help, geting the error, WRONG FS
[16:25] <HackerII> from piratebay ?, el oh el
[16:26] <elNewberino> So is it a problem with nouveau? Got one of those nvidia-optimus laptops btw, in case that matters. think i already had problems with that a few times.
[16:28] <elNewberino> I just dont get why it works fine in a guest session, but not with the user
[16:28] <catopett> If i have a os disk (ISO-FILE), how can i find out what FS it has? With MOUNT or some other software in ubuntu
[16:28] <teward> catopett: in theory, fdisk -l /path/to/ISO
[16:28] <teward> catopett: but that doesn't guarantee a result
[16:29] <evilop> catopett: `file`
[16:29] <teward> also `file` but if it's an ISO, still
[16:29] <evilop> iso means nothing, that is just some random file extention that people use
[16:29] <evilop> in the old days iso ment iso9660, but not so anymore
[16:31]  * teward shrugs
[16:32] <teward> evilop: OS Disk could mean anything from an installer image to an actual disk image of a hard drive and its partitions, we basically can't answer it in its current form then
[16:32] <teward> extensions aside
[16:32] <Norux> explosive, do you have time?
[16:33] <teward> evilop: that said, even with an installer ISO, `fdisk -l /path/to/image` will list the partitions and filesystem types of whatever's on the image
[16:33] <explosive> Norux: yeah, what's the problem?
[16:34] <jark> i b searching for the german ubuntu channel
[16:34] <teward> !de | jark
[16:34] <jark> ty
[16:43] <Norux> explosive, you remember i installed 16.04 on my pc? now the graphics driver won't work and i can only boot in recovery mode
[16:44] <explosive> Norux: ok, which graphics card do you have?
[16:44] <Norux> R9 270x
[16:46] <Snackerr> Hey, i just installed the Mini ISO, and it it didnt ask me to install "MP3 supports, etc"  like the regular DVD installer does... so what am i missing now? which packages do i need to install to make a "mini.iso"  just like a "regular ISO"?
[16:46] <explosive> Norux: is that nvidia?
[16:46] <Norux> explosive, nope, amd
[16:46] <explosive> Norux: oh
[16:46] <explosive> Snackerr: ubuntu-restricted-extras
[16:47] <explosive> in the multiverse repository
[16:47] <Norux> explosive, well yeah, i will not buy amd again haha
[16:47] <explosive> Norux: did you try an older kernel?
[16:47] <explosive> !info linux-generic
[16:47] <explosive> hmm still 22 it seems
[16:48] <explosive> it's been like a month or 2 still 22 wtf..
[16:48] <explosive> Norux: did you try mainline kernels?
[16:48] <Norux> explosive, yes, although i only had one old kernel. The thing is, it worked with that kernel before, but now it doesn't anymore
[16:48] <explosive> Norux: oh
[16:49] <explosive> Norux: try to upload logs from failed attempts
[16:49] <explosive> from /var/log/Xorg.0.log and /var/log/lightdm/*
[16:49] <explosive> do you reach lightdm even?
[16:49] <Norux> explosive, yes i do
[16:50] <Cyber_Akuma> Is there a way I can install Ubuntu on a spare drive without having it touch the bootloaders or anything else on my windows drives?
[16:50] <explosive> Norux: ok, try cat /var/log/Xorg.0.log* | nc termbin.com 9999
[16:50] <battleaxe> I want to build a very old, but still effective, small home server system.  specs: core2duo cpu, 2gb non-ecc ram, 4x250gb spinning disks + 64gb boot ssd. after finish laughter, do you think i could use ZFS on this to serve up ~500gb of 'protected' (from bit-rot and from 2 device failures) to my network?
[16:50] <Norux> explosive, you might also wanna check out this: https://www.reddit.com/r/linux_gaming/comments/4kqlom/new_to_this_movement_need_some_help/d3hcewv
[16:51] <Norux> explosive, i installed that driver as it was recommended
[16:51] <explosive> Norux: hmm, ok
[16:51] <Norux> explosive, http://paste.ubuntu.com/16996181/
[16:51] <akik> Cyber_Akuma: yes you can install grub to the beginning of your linux partition, then later add it to windows boot loader
[16:52] <akik> Cyber_Akuma: it's a bit difficult but there are guides on how to do it
[16:52] <Norux> explosive, also: http://paste.ubuntu.com/16996215/
[16:52] <Norux> from the Xorg.0.log
[16:53] <Snackerr> battleaxe,  i heard ZFS gets fragmented when 70+% full, and there are NO DEFRAG TOOLS  :(
[16:53] <akik> Cyber_Akuma: here's one https://www.iceflatline.com/2009/09/how-to-dual-boot-windows-7-and-linux-using-bcdedit/
[16:54] <Snackerr> battleaxe, also heard that ZFS does not work its magic, when it is encrypted  :(   i have been looking at ZFS also, is there a GUI for it?  it doesnt seem compatilbe with GNOME-DISKS?
[16:54] <battleaxe> Snackerr: that sounds like an overly simplistic 'rumour'.. certainly zfs is complex and you can optimize it for many different cases?
[16:55] <battleaxe> Snackerr: i think we both have a lot to learn :)
[16:55] <Snackerr> battleaxe,  i heard it from a ZFS expert who has multiple TB drives setup on ZFS.  he likes it, but says there are weird "gotchas"  like that
[16:56] <explosive> Norux: can you upload the list of packages that were upgraded before it stopped working?
[16:56] <Norux> explosive, uhh, where do i find them
[16:56] <Cyber_Akuma> akik, my goal is to have a drive I can plug in and choose to boot into when I need it. Not a usb drive but actual hdd to expirement with tings you can't from a usb install
[16:57] <Norux> explosive, i don't have them in my mind
[16:57] <explosive> Norux: /var/log/apt/history.log
[16:57] <Cyber_Akuma> As in, I hit the "choose boot device" button on my motherboard and point it to the hdd
[16:57] <Cyber_Akuma> on post
[16:57] <Norux> explosive, http://paste.ubuntu.com/16996451/
[16:57] <explosive> Cyber_Akuma: install ubuntu as usual but to a usb
[16:58] <akik> Cyber_Akuma: ah ok. i've installed ubuntu on an usb stick so that it operates on its own
[16:58] <Norux> (i prefer pastebinit haha)
[16:58] <battleaxe> Snackerr: cool, you should invite the expert to come here and help :) Mostly I am interested in ZFS for the 'bit-rot' problem, but with my very old hardware I might look into btrfs instead
[16:58] <explosive> Norux: when did it stop working?
[16:58] <Cyber_Akuma> I did that from a VM, but it didn't seem to get all the harware of tha ctual system I ran it on, and usb is very slow too
[16:58] <clinggg> Hi. I'm testing Ubuntu 16.04 with a pendrive on a laptop but it does not recognize any wireless. But in the same laptop I'm now connected to a wifi. Any idea?
[16:58] <Norux> explosive, yesterday, around 16.20
[16:59] <Norux> pm
[16:59] <neredsenvy> Anyone experienced issues installing nodejs
[16:59] <neredsenvy> in sense that it takes forever
[17:00] <explosive> Norux: did you install any ppa before it failed?
[17:00] <catopett> How do they make restore disk?
[17:00] <Norux> explosive, you mean between the last boot and the first failed boot?
[17:00] <squinty> !wireless | clinggg
[17:00] <explosive> did you install the ppa before it failed or after?
[17:01] <Norux> not afterwards, but well I added the new graphics driver PPA ~10 days ago
[17:01] <explosive> Norux: ok, try to remove it
[17:01] <explosive> install ppa-purge
[17:01] <Norux> okay
[17:02] <Norux> explosive, do i run sudo apt-get ppa-purge or just sudo ppa-purge
[17:02] <explosive> sudo apt-get install ppa-purge
[17:03] <JohnC> olllllllllllllllllllk;llllllllllllllllllllllllllllllllllllllllllll
[17:03] <effectnet> mil
[17:03] <Norux> explosive, yeah i know haha but to actually remove the ppa
[17:04] <explosive> Norux: how did you install it? which ppa:..../.... ?
[17:04] <Norux> with sudo add-apt-repository ppa:paulo-miguel-dias/mesa
[17:04] <rafaelg> Q
[17:04] <explosive> Norux: ok, run sudo ppa-purge ppa:paulo..../...
[17:05] <rafaelg> stop
[17:05] <catopett> Is it a good helicopter simulator for ubuntu?
[17:05] <Norux> explosive, okay done ;)
[17:05] <explosive> Norux: ok, give it a shot
[17:06] <Norux> explosive, are you sure haha
[17:08] <Snackerr> battleaxe,  BTRFS is even worse than ZFS:  https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=2O64JRTcx3c
[17:08] <Snackerr> battleaxe, https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=WfpNGJt40Lc
[17:08] <Norux> explosive, quick question, do i have to set GRUB_HIDDEN_TIMEOUT_QUIET to false if i set GRUB_HIDDEN_TIMEOUT ?
[17:08] <jamesd> Snackerr: btrfs is more secure than ZFS,   there are times when you write you data to your storage, and it refuses to let even root or the owner see the data ever again.
[17:08] <Snackerr> battleaxe, but yes, i am in the same boat as u, it seems cool as hell, the "SELF-HEALING" zfs
[17:09] <zolomon> SchrodingersScat: Thanks. Would it be difficult to write a tool that would stream the system audio? I have no experience on the linux side how the audio architecture works. If I can get access to it via C/C++ at least, then I am confident that I could write a client/server solution that would work for my own case at least.
[17:09] <lordcirth> ZFS is great.  I have never had a problem with it.
[17:09] <Snackerr> jamesd, another "Gotcha" with BTRFS, and (probly ZFS) is if you do a "dirty shutdown"  that it screws up your files.  if you dont shutdown properly
[17:09] <lordcirth> An experienced sysadmin I work with refuses to put production data on anything but ZFS.
[17:10] <Snackerr> jamesd, oh, that was a joke, i just got it  LOL
[17:10] <jamesd> Snackerr: ZFS  can possibly lose the last 5 seconds of your data in the case of unclean shutdown.
[17:10] <lordcirth> Snackerr, ZFS does that in much rarer circumstances than btrfs.
[17:10] <explosive> Norux: not sure, grub does give warnings about those kind of stuff
[17:10] <jamesd> if you value your data, put your fileserver on a UPS
[17:10] <Snackerr> lordcirth,  is there a GUI guide for ZFS?
[17:11] <Norux> explosive, just because my grub timeout is like 0.01 seconds haha
[17:11] <lordcirth> Snackerr, not that I've ever seen.  zfs's command line interface is trivial for basic operations and needs no GUI.
[17:11] <jamesd> lordcirth: there are gui's and web interfaces for ZFS, but except for nfs v4 ACL's, i  find them pointless
[17:11] <Snackerr> lordcirth, this is needlessly complicated, i like my GUI's  https://help.ubuntu.com/community/encryptedZfs
[17:11] <explosive> Norux: you want grub to show?
[17:12] <Norux> no i just want the timeout to be a bit longeer
[17:12] <Snackerr> lordcirth, you call this trivial?  lol  ^
[17:12] <lordcirth> Snackerr, that's encrypted ZFS root, that's way more complex than a normal install
[17:12] <lordcirth> " trivial for basic operations"
[17:12] <Snackerr> lordcirth, for EXT4 is is ONE checkbox  LOL,  that is "trivial"!!
[17:12] <blu3_light> hello
[17:13] <Norux> explosive, i've set it to 5 now, should be fine. I'll restart now.
[17:13] <lordcirth> Snackerr, yes, it also loses data trivially when that drive dies :)
[17:13] <Norux> explosive, brb
[17:13] <Snackerr> lordcirth,  i want ONE checkbox for ZFS, when does that come out?
[17:13] <lordcirth> sudo zpool create storage raidz sda sdb
[17:13] <lordcirth> sudo zpool create storage raidz sda sdb sdc *
[17:13] <blu3_light> hello everyone. I'm new to irc.
[17:13] <danang> hmm
[17:13] <lordcirth> blu3_light, hi
[17:13] <lordcirth> Snackerr, well, FreeNAS has a nice GUI for ZFS.
[17:13] <Snackerr> lordcirth, i also read that LUKS encryption messes up ZFS's magic abilities  :(
[17:14] <Snackerr> lordcirth,  https://pthree.org/2012/08/21/encrypted-zfs-filesystems-on-linuxzfs
[17:14] <blu3_light> do you know the python channel? :)
[17:14] <lordcirth> Snackerr, that method works too
[17:15] <blu3_light> hi lordcirth thanks for welcoming me to the group.
[17:15] <Snackerr> lordcirth,  i dont have RAID, just one  Backup-HDD that i manually Sync once a week. so i'm thinkin about ZFS for that, but it will Definitley be over 90% full (so fragmented to the point of no return, if i use ZFS???)
[17:15] <Norux> explosive, that worked!
[17:15] <lordcirth> However, ZFS was not originally designed for situations where block-level data-at-rest encryption was needed
[17:15] <Snackerr> EXT4 is fine with 90% full, and has Defrag tools also
[17:15] <Norux> explosive, is there any other driver I could possibly use that is updated for 16.04?
[17:15] <explosive> Norux: great
[17:16] <lordcirth> Snackerr, why would you use ZFS for a single drive?  Snapshots?
[17:16] <lordcirth> !alis | blu3_light
[17:16] <Snackerr> lordcirth,  to prevent bit-rot, etc? any other reason?
[17:16] <exSnake> what's the difference between doing find . -size +1024k -fprint file.txt
[17:16] <exSnake> and find . -fprint file.txt -size +1024k
[17:16] <explosive> Norux: i think amd has a pro version of the amdgpu driver, not so sure about how well it works though
[17:16] <Snackerr> brb
[17:16] <lordcirth> Snackerr, ZFS on one disk will detect bitrot, not fix it, unless you use copies=2
[17:17] <lordcirth> It can, however, tell you what file is damaged so you can fix it
[17:17] <Norux> explosive, hmm. I might just stick with this one (is that the one provided by Canonical?)
[17:18] <explosive> Norux: the one you're using right now?
[17:18] <Norux> explosive, yes
[17:18] <jamesd> if you want ecryption for ZFS out of the box, you need to use Solaris 11...
[17:19] <explosive> Norux: it should be the one by canonical
[17:19] <explosive> unless you manually installed something else or a ppa did
[17:20] <explosive> i think it's this package xserver-xorg-video-amdgpu
[17:20] <Norux> explosive, okay i thought so. Yeah, that's already installed. offtopic question: do you use xchat?
[17:21] <coventry> What is the actual command-line command which kicks off the ubuntu desktop (want it for a docker image.)
[17:21] <xangua> coventry: you mean install?
[17:21] <explosive> Norux: yeah
[17:21] <navdeep> hello world
[17:21] <Norux> explosive, is there an option to auto disable the join-/leave-messages?
[17:22] <coventry> xangua: No, I mean the command the login manager runs to kick off your desktop environment when you successfully log in.
[17:22] <explosive> Norux: you mean xchat or gnome-crap?
[17:22] <explosive> Norux: xchat isn't in 16.04 by default
[17:22] <lordcirth> Norux, it will be in your IRC client's settings
[17:22] <zykotick9> !quietirssi | Norux
[17:22] <kevdog> @Norux -- it's in the settings of xchat
[17:23]  * zykotick9 suggests NOT using xchat and instead using the supported hexchat in it's place
[17:23] <lordcirth> Hexchat is nice.  I'm using it
[17:23] <explosive> it's ugly imho
[17:23] <danang> i use hexchat
[17:23] <kevdog> I'm currently using hexchat -- but that's because I'm on a Mac right now.  What happened to xchat? Did it fork?
[17:24] <CG> #openstack-dev
[17:24] <Norux> kevdog, it's not :(
[17:24] <lordcirth> Hexchat is not particularly exciting, I admit, but it works fine.
[17:24] <kevdog> What's better?
[17:24] <explosive> the fonts suck imho
[17:24] <lordcirth> explosive, well you can change fonts
[17:24] <zykotick9> kevdog: fyi, xchat is a dead/unsupported project...
[17:24] <lordcirth> irssi or weechat are nice - once you get decent configs
[17:24] <explosive> lordcirth: i tried making it a clone of xchat, downloaded a bunch of stuff, still sucked
[17:25] <\9> kevdog: xchat died, hexchat is a continuation
[17:25] <explosive> to each his own though, i'm using the 15.10 version of xchat
[17:25] <kevdog> @zykotick9 -- I didn't know that -- Not a fan of irssi
[17:27] <lordcirth> I just tried setting my hexchat font to Terminus - 9 is too small and 10 is too big :(
[17:28] <explosive> also i couldn't get the left side and chat side and input side background to be different
[17:29] <explosive> like in xchat it's white on the left, light gray in the channel, and white at the bottom etc. in hexchat it's just one color for all
[17:32] <Norux> who recommended hexchat to me?
[17:32] <explosive> everyone
[17:32] <Norux> hahaha okay. how do i set the automatic authorization here :D
[17:32] <explosive> you like?
[17:33] <Norux> yes ;)
[17:33] <lordcirth> Norux, Ctrl-S for network list
[17:33] <lordcirth> Set auth per netowkr
[17:33] <lordcirth> network*
[17:35] <Norux> can i set them globally lordcirth?
[17:35] <Norux> oh. nvm
[17:35] <lordcirth> Norux, why would you want to autosend your password to all IRC servers?
[17:37] <cyborg_ninja> hello everyone
[17:38] <cyborg_ninja> hello
[17:38] <ioria> explosive, we are only two in here using xchat .... i found a ppa for 16.04
[17:38] <explosive> ioria: ;)
[17:39] <cyborg_ninja> im using irssi
[17:39] <Norux> one last question, will hexchat show up in my notification tab? like where thunderbird is for example?
[17:39] <cyborg_ninja> what is better irc client... I'm new here in IRC soo happy
[17:39] <ioria> explosive, ppa:webupd8team/y-ppa-manager  ; install y-ppa-manager , search for xchat and install it
[17:39] <cyborg_ninja> have you also used empathy?
[17:41] <xangua> cyborg_ninja: empathy sucks for irc, period
[17:42] <Norux> explosive: Thanks a lot again. This is the 4th time you helped me repair my computer even though you don't know it hahaha
[17:43] <explosive> Norux: no problem :)
[17:44] <lordcirth> cyborg_ninja, irssi is nice if you like it.  If you want a GUI IRC client, Hexchat is nice.
[17:46] <cyborg_ninja> lordcirth, i'll try sometime in the future.
[17:47] <cyborg_ninja> how long does the NickServe sends a verification on the email?
[17:48] <lordcirth> cyborg_ninja, shouldn't take more than 10 minutes.  Check your spam folder too
[17:48] <cyborg_ninja> lordcirth, thanks.. what other channels do you visit?
[17:50] <lordcirth> cyborg_ninja, on Freenode, #ubuntu , sometimes #archlinux , and whatever tool I am working with at the moment
[17:51] <cyborg_ninja> lordcirth, thanks.. you do sysadmin job?
[17:52] <lordcirth> cyborg_ninja, I am interning as a junior sysadmin, basically
[17:53] <cyborg_ninja> lordcirth, nice.. I'm an IT auditor, if your familiar with it... I have a bit of a problem.
[17:54] <htns> hi, what is the difference between "Xubuntu minimal installation" and "Xubuntu desktop"
[17:54] <htns> well, desktop is self-explanatory, but is "minimal installation" a superset of desktop?
[17:54] <htns> or is it something completely different?
[17:55] <lordcirth> htns, a subset
[17:55] <lordcirth> htns, is this on the download page?
[17:55] <xangua> htns: you're talking about xubuntu core?
[17:55] <OerHeks> just a set of minimal core apps, not that much smaller than normal xubuntu
[17:55] <htns> im installing ubuntu mini iso
[17:55] <htns> and it's asking me choose sw to install
[17:55] <lordcirth> htns, oh, in the installer?
[17:56] <lordcirth> Just install Xubuntu desktop
[17:56] <htns> lordcirth, yes, so far i have standard system utilities and openssh server selected
[17:57] <lordcirth> htns, oh that list, ok.
[17:57] <htns> so what exactly is "Xubuntu minimal installation?" i google'd but cant find the difference b/w "xubuntu desktop"
[17:57] <catopett> how do i start / run flightgear? sudo flightgear does not work, help
[17:57] <xangua> !mini | htns
[17:58] <OerHeks> running flightgear as root is a bad idea
[17:58] <lordcirth> xangua, I think he's at the installer menu in the normal CD?
[17:58] <OerHeks> just use the laucher in your menu
[17:59] <OerHeks> indeed xangua xubuntu-minimal is xubuntu-core http://xubuntu.org/news/introducing-xubuntu-core/
[17:59] <catopett> How do i run it then? I do not find it in menu
[18:01] <lordcirth> catopett, "locate flightgear" to search for it
[18:02] <OerHeks> if you disabled indexing programs and documents, flightgear starter shall be found next login
[18:02] <OerHeks> logical
[18:02] <catopett> Found it on desktop, ok i give it a try
[18:02] <Utils> Hi. I had ubuntu installed, and I have no idea what I did but I must of removed the partition through windows (it was a long time ago I must of did this). I'm getting grub no such partition. Upon doing the ls command I have (hd0)(hd0,msdos5)(hd0,msdos2)(hd0,msdos1) I tried ls on them but it returned unknown filesystem on all.
[18:03] <Utils> I want to keep the windows install but I guess at this stage I want ubuntu removed but of course I can't boot. Any ideas how to fix this?
[18:03] <cyborg_ninja> hello guys. what is the status of 16.10 lts?
[18:03] <xangua> cyborg_ninja: 16.10 won't be LTS
[18:04] <lordcirth> 16.04 is LTS
[18:04] <cyborg_ninja> xangua: haha, sorry. what was the lts version again.
[18:04] <lordcirth> It's a bit of a strange system
[18:05] <_Kevin_> Is there a way to update my samsung 850 evo firmware on ubuntu 16.04?
[18:06] <lordcirth> _Kevin_, iirc samsung provides a bootable iso for that
[18:06] <_Kevin_> that's only for the 840 evo and below
[18:06] <_Kevin_> http://www.samsung.com/semiconductor/minisite/ssd/download/consumer.html
[18:07] <lordcirth> ah
[18:07] <_Kevin_> I was reading on the archwiki that there is a samsung magician in the aur "Another option is to use Samsung's samsung_magicianAUR, which is available in the AUR."
[18:08] <_Kevin_> and it doesn't work with wine or playonlinux (basically the same thing)
[18:08] <_Kevin_> the .exe from the samsung website
[18:08] <cyborg_ninja> guys i'll gonna go. i'll be back in the future.
[18:08] <OerHeks> _Kevin_, there is an linux version of it http://askubuntu.com/questions/537471/samsung-magician-on-ubuntu-14-04
[18:09] <Mikerhinos> Not sure if I set something wrong in keyboard layout, but I can't do special chars like caps "ç" (normally alt+0199)
[18:11] <lordcirth> Mikerhinos, Linux doesn't work that way
[18:11] <lordcirth> Mikerhinos, there is the compose key
[18:11] <_Kevin_> The thing where it says where to download the firmware and whatnot, the link has changed and I can no longer access it
[18:11] <lordcirth> Mikerhinos, https://help.ubuntu.com/community/ComposeKey
[18:13] <OerHeks> kevin, open terminal : wget http://www.samsung.com/global/business/semiconductor/minisite/SSD/downloads/software/samsung_magician_dc-v1.0_rtm_p2.tar.gz
[18:13] <OerHeks> and hopla
[18:15] <Mikerhinos> lordcirth, Ok I'm in the layout options menu, is there any choice that will give the "alt" key the same combinations as in Windows to do special chars ?
[18:18] <lordcirth> Mikerhinos, no, the compose key uses human-readable combos, for example Compose-e' gives you an e with an accent, u" gives umlaut, etc
[18:20] <_Kevin_> can anyone tell me what i'm doing wrong? https://paste.ubuntu.com/17000404/
[18:20] <Mikerhinos> lordcirth, Ok so it will be complicated for me lol, I'm french and we have the "ç" letter, and I don't find how to do a capital version of it :/ I Guess I'll just copy paste from web lol
[18:20] <ioria> Mikerhinos, try  ctrl+shift+u  and type 00e7    and  enter
[18:21] <k1l_> _Kevin_: are your sure its a .tar.gz?
[18:21] <_Kevin_> that's the file extension
[18:22] <ioria> Mikerhinos, capital ?   ctrl+shift+u  and type 00c7
[18:22] <_Kevin_> Tar archive (gzip-compressed) (application/x-compressed-tar)
[18:22] <Mikerhinos> ioria, Where did you got these magic numbers ? lol, because it works : Ç
[18:22] <lordcirth> _Kevin_, are you sure it finished downloading correctly?
[18:23] <ioria> Mikerhinos, it's the Unicode http://www.fileformat.info/info/unicode/char/00e7/index.htm
[18:24] <_Kevin_> lordcirth: yes https://paste.ubuntu.com/17000592/
[18:24] <lordcirth> _Kevin_, ok, well try "gunzip"
[18:24] <bmcgahan> anyone have experience with iptables, ufw, and nat?
[18:24] <bmcgahan> I have an order of operations problem I can't figure out
[18:24] <Mikerhinos> ioria, Thanks, added http://www.fileformat.info/info/unicode/char/a.htm to my bookmarks :)
[18:25] <_Kevin_> says it's not in gzip format
[18:25] <ioria> Mikerhinos, bon
[18:25] <lordcirth> bmcgahan, I have some experience with iptables.  My experience with ufw is "don't use it"
[18:25] <anderson> bmcgahan, order of operations? Like math?
[18:25] <anderson> ok sorry.
[18:25] <bmcgahan> I have two lines as follows
[18:25] <bmcgahan> sudo iptables -t nat -A PREROUTING -i bond0 -p tcp --dport 11001 -j DNAT --to-destination 172.16.11.101:7023
[18:25] <bmcgahan> sudo ufw insert 1 allow from 1.2.3.0/24
[18:25] <anderson> my bad.
[18:25] <lordcirth> bmcgahan, you can pastebin your "iptables -L"
[18:26] <lordcirth> " iptables -L | pastebinit "
[18:26] <Mikerhinos> ioria, Hey you're from Texas, do you know how's the weather in Austin ? Because in a few hours there's the FMX Best Trick in the X-Games and I hope to see it tomorrow lol (8:30PM here in France)
[18:26] <_Kevin_> http://paste.ubuntu.com/17000728/
[18:27] <_Kevin_> didn't know about pastebinit, pretty useful imo
[18:27] <bmcgahan> http://pastebin.com/2Z3zr4J9
[18:28] <bmcgahan> so what I'm trying to do is poke a hole in the firewall, so that when someone telnets to the server at port 11001 it translates to an inside host at port 7023
[18:28] <bmcgahan> that part is working fine
[18:28] <bmcgahan> but it's open to all sources
[18:28] <OerHeks> kevin123, enough info to find howto unpack .. https://lime-technology.com/forum/index.php?topic=46645.0
[18:28] <bmcgahan> I only want it to translate if the traffic is coming from 1.2.3.0/24
[18:28] <OerHeks> tar xvfz ..
[18:28] <bmcgahan> but apparently the nat rule also opens the firewall hole
[18:29] <lordcirth> bmcgahan, 172.16.11.0/16 is your internal network?
[18:29] <bmcgahan> yeah
[18:29] <bmcgahan> bond0 is the outside interface
[18:30] <lordcirth> bmcgahan, and you want to port forward?  And block all but a certain internet IP from using the port forward?
[18:31] <_Kevin_> OerHeks: https://paste.ubuntu.com/17000944/
[18:31] <bmcgahan> yeah exactly
[18:31] <bmcgahan> line 231 is blocking those ports "-A ufw-user-input -i bond0 -p tcp -m multiport --dports 11001:11030 -j DROP"
[18:31] <k1l_> _Kevin_: are you sure that is that file?
[18:31] <ioria> Mikerhinos, i'm not from Texas, sorry
[18:31] <lordcirth> bmcgahan, but it is running after the NAT lines
[18:31] <k1l_> _Kevin_: and not a corrupted website shipping some random code instead of that file?
[18:31] <bmcgahan> but lines 33-92 are being processed first
[18:31] <bmcgahan> yeah that's the problem
[18:31] <bmcgahan> I don't know how to get it to run before the nat
[18:32] <Mikerhinos> ioria, Yes you're from Italy lol sorry I looked at the freenode server...Anyway thanks for the infos ! :)
[18:32] <lordcirth> bmcgahan, and you want to do this with ufw?
[18:33] <bmcgahan> or iptables
[18:33] <ioria> Mikerhinos, no problem ^_°
[18:33] <bmcgahan> ufw is already there I can't remove it completely
[18:33] <bmcgahan> it's a cloud app that automatically adds these UFW rules during deployment
[18:34] <bmcgahan> and I'm trying to add these exceptions afterwards
[18:34] <lordcirth> ah tricky
[18:35] <_Kevin_> k1l_: https://i.imgur.com/Uc6TIBF.png
[18:35] <bmcgahan> what about in the nat statement itself "-A PREROUTING -i bond0 -p tcp -m tcp --dport 11001 -j DNAT --to-destination 172.16.11.101:7023"
[18:35] <bmcgahan> can I say only NAT if coming from 1.2.3.0/24
[18:35] <OerHeks> kevin123, i see, cannot help you there
[18:36] <OerHeks> contact samsung maybe?
[18:36] <_Kevin_> It's fine, not your fault
[18:36] <k1l_> _Kevin_: yes, you loaded "something"
[18:36] <OerHeks> bad archive ..
[18:37] <lordcirth> bmcgahan I think there is a way to do that
[18:37] <k1l_> kevin123: bu i still think that this "something" is not what you think it is.
[18:38] <k1l_> _Kevin_: ok, just test the link in a browser: http://www.samsung.com/global/business/semiconductor/minisite/SSD/downloads/software/samsung_magician_dc-v1.0_rtm_p2.tar.gz
[18:38] <k1l_> _Kevin_: and if you look at the wget output "301 moved". the link is not working
[18:38] <lordcirth> _Kevin_, run "file <filename>"
[18:38] <_Kevin_> It's from this site (https://lime-technology.com/forum/index.php?topic=46645.0 and another user linked me the same link, and it was on an ubuntu forums answer. This is the wget site I've been using http://www.samsung.com/global/business/semiconductor/minisite/SSD/downloads/software/samsung_magician_dc-v1.0_rtm_p2.tar.gz
[18:39] <lordcirth> _Kevin_, yeah, click that link, it redirects to the samsung homepage
[18:39] <lordcirth> you downloaded a bunch of html and stuff
[18:39] <_Kevin_> http://paste.ubuntu.com/17001351/
[18:40] <_Kevin_> Ah I see
[18:40] <lordcirth> bmcgahan, you could also add a rule to block traffic to the forwarded port, when it is coming from your gateway.
[18:40] <_Kevin_> So I'm guessing it's no longer available. Would the firmware be included anyway in kernel backports?
[18:40] <lordcirth> _Kevin_, why do you need the firmware, again?  Is there a bug?
[18:40] <_Kevin_> No, just optimizations
[18:41] <_Kevin_> I read somewhere that it's good to update the firmware for ssd's
[18:41] <bmcgahan> lordcirth: how though?
[18:41] <k1l_> _Kevin_: i dount it would be included in the kernel at all. that is stuff that samsung needs to fix on their machines
[18:42] <lordcirth> bmcgahan, is your gateway your firewall?
[18:43] <bmcgahan> there is no gateway it's just a server on the internet
[18:43] <bmcgahan> it's a cloud server
[18:43] <lordcirth> bmcgahan, ok but what hosts is it NAT'ing for, then?
[18:43] <bmcgahan> it's a hypervisor
[18:43] <bmcgahan> it's natting to the guests
[18:43] <lordcirth> oh ok it's NATing for VMS
[18:43] <bmcgahan> yeah
[18:44] <hooli> _Kevin_: https://github.com/hughsie/fwupd
[18:45] <lordcirth> Ok, so something like this, I think: iptables -A FORWARD -s <server internal ip> --dport <internal port> -j REJECT
[18:46] <lordcirth> bmcgahan, ^
[18:46] <lordcirth> er, maybe not
[18:46] <daumie> @ruben HI buddy
[18:47] <lordcirth> bmcgahan, I mostly use shorewall to manage iptables, I find it much easier.
[18:47] <_Kevin_> hooli: that's already included in ubuntu and I have nothing to update. I guess I don't need to update anything then.
[18:47] <_Kevin_> Thanks for all the help, guidance, and info everyone :)
[18:49] <lordcirth> bmcgahan, have you considered a VPN between these 2 machines?
[18:49] <OerHeks> have fun kevin
[18:49] <daumie> -kelvin_ You are welcomed :-)
[18:55] <bmcgahan> lordcirth: adding the -s 1.2.3.0/24 from the NAT statement fixed it
[18:55] <bmcgahan> thanks for the help
[18:55] <bmcgahan> sudo iptables -t nat -A PREROUTING -i bond0 -s 98.223.116.0/23 -p tcp --dport 12030 -j DNAT --to-destination 172.16.11.230:7023
[18:55] <lordcirth> bmcgahan, ah excellent
[18:56] <lordcirth> Yeah that makes sense
[18:58] <lordcirth> bmcgahan, if ever you find yourself using iptables, and there's no existing system in place like here, don't, use shorewall.
[18:58] <lordcirth> Shorewall is great.
[19:09] <catopett> 7nickserv identify 5eiknygt
[19:13] <lordcirth> catopett, time to change your password, lol
[19:13] <catopett> I know, how do i do that?
[19:13] <lordcirth> catopett, always do that from the server tab, not the channel, just in case
[19:13] <lordcirth> catopett, /query nickserv
[19:13] <lordcirth> catopett, then say "help"
[19:17] <catopett>  /msg NickServ DROP catopett 5eiknygt 3a3af9f6:39155bab
[19:18] <OerHeks> :-)
[19:18] <michael_> hi
[19:18] <xangua> :-(
[19:18] <lordcirth> catopett, 2 mistakes: 1, doing this in channel where a mistake can post it.  Should do it in Freenode tab so it doesn't go anywhere.
[19:19] <OerHeks> catopett, do this in a private channel, we all have fun now
[19:19] <lordcirth> secondly, don't put spaces in front of the slash
[19:19] <lordcirth> michael_, hi
[19:19] <catopett> It is the keyboard, it does not work all time correckt
[19:19] <michael_> is this here a better place to ask for widi/miracast sink-server than in #ubuntu-devel?
[19:20] <catopett> How do i change password then, need help
[19:20] <lordcirth> catopett, /query nickserv.  Do everything in that tab.
[19:20] <Fuchs> catopett: /msg nickserv help set password
[19:21] <Fuchs> catopett: if you want to _drop_ the account I think it's a bit pointless, mind
[19:21] <PickledEggs> So I'm new to Linux and using 16.04 but I'm trying to learn some of the finer points of the command line in preparation for the Linux+ and I'm having a little trouble nailing down exactly how the -p flag works with the command cp and unfortunately the man pages aren't helping. When I cp a file inside my home directory it seems to keep ownership and permissions with the exception of write permission for others - if the original file
[19:21] <PickledEggs> had that write permission the copied file removes it but keeps all other permissions even without the -p flag to preserve permissions and ownership. If I cp files outside my home directory the -p flag acts as expected.
[19:21] <michael_> i need help with connman (new version), wpa_supplicant (new version) and https://github.com/01org/wds
[19:21] <PickledEggs> Is there some sort of rule or guideline to when permission/ownership is preserved without the -p flag?
[19:22] <PickledEggs> Is it just in my home directory or is it when I cp between any two folders I own?
[19:23] <lordcirth> PickledEggs, when you say "cp files outside my home directory" do you mean copying things into it, or out of it?
[19:23] <catopett> Now i have changed password
[19:23] <lordcirth> catopett, great :)
[19:24] <akarvi>  /join ubuntu-de
[19:24] <lordcirth> catopett, you may want to setup SASL if your client supports it, so you don't have to auth manually every time
[19:24] <catopett> I do have to identify again or do i?
[19:24] <lordcirth> catopett, whenever you connect to freenode you need to login.  Most IRC clients support doing this for you.
[19:25] <michael_> any idea, how to get miracast (widi) as a sink-server (receiver) working on ubuntu 16.04 (16.10)?
[19:25] <ioria> PickledEggs, cp -p works fine here
[19:25] <PickledEggs> right
[19:25] <PickledEggs> I'm more curious about when file permissions are preserved without the -p flag
[19:27] <PickledEggs> if I have a file with 777 permissions in ~/Documents and I cp it to ~/OldDocs which has folder permissions of 700 the file retains 777 permissions
[19:27] <Bashing-om> PickledEggs: A good tutirial on permissions: http://mywiki.wooledge.org/Permissions .
[19:29] <ioria> PickledEggs, yep
[19:29] <PickledEggs> Thank you Bashing, I'll take a look. I've got a pretty good handle on permissions, just the unexpected behavior of cp preserving permissions without using the -p flag when moving files between folders with different permissions inside my home directory
[19:30] <Soulboy> Hi I was hoping I could get some help with my WiFI issues I haev a log for it here http://paste.ubuntu.com/17003812/
[19:31] <Soulboy> I'm trying to dual boot ubuntu on an alienware 15 r2 but I don't think it recognizes my WiFi card despite having installed the firmware for it and such (it's running the killer wireless 1535 card)
[19:32] <ioria> PickledEggs, with -p, flag i mean
[19:33] <PickledEggs> yeah, it happens even without the -p flag, which is what threw me off
[19:33] <ioria> PickledEggs, are you sure ?
[19:34] <PickledEggs> certain, but only IF both folders are subfolders of my home directory
[19:34] <ioria> PickledEggs, did you use -r to chmod the folder ?
[19:34] <ioria> -R
[19:35] <PickledEggs> I left the folder with default permissions
[19:35] <PickledEggs> and chmod the file to 777
[19:35] <PickledEggs> then cp to the new folder
[19:36] <PickledEggs> I was just trying to play with cp and the various flags to make sure I understood them, but this has been nagging me since it didn't do what I expected and I can't seem to find any real documentation about when it works that way
[19:36] <ioria> PickledEggs, make a try ,  touch filename, chmod 777 filename, mkdir dirname, chmod -R 700 dirname, then cp (without -p ) filename in dirname
[19:38] <PickledEggs> when I do that the file in the new directory is now 775
[19:38] <ioria> PickledEggs, yep
[19:38] <ioria> PickledEggs, use -p
[19:39] <ioria> PickledEggs, to preserve
[19:39] <PickledEggs> yeah, I get that part
[19:39] <PickledEggs> I tired it just to be sure and it retains 777
[19:39] <ioria> right
[19:40] <PickledEggs> what I'm stumped about is why when I copy it without -p it changes to 775 and not 700 like the folder
[19:40] <lordcirth> PickledEggs, when you do "touch newfile" what permissions does it have?
[19:40] <catopett> PickledEggs: Is'nt it easyer to use mc?
[19:41] <ioria> PickledEggs, man umask
[19:41] <PickledEggs> 664
[19:42] <PickledEggs> catopett, I'm just trying to understand this part of cp, my teacher explained it so poorly she confused herself
[19:43] <jarlath> I'm a bit out of touch with processors these days. Could someone tell me if they think laptop 1 would be much faster than laptop 2 (which I already run Ubuntu on and it's very nice)? [1]: http://www.ebay.ie/itm/201596048734?_trksid=p2055119.m1438.l2649&ssPageName=STRK%3AMEBIDX%3AIT
[19:43] <jarlath> [2] http://www.ebay.ie/itm/311589162878?_trksid=p2055119.m1438.l2649&ssPageName=STRK%3AMEBIDX%3AIT
[19:43] <lordcirth> Honestly I have never really thought about the cp permission defaults.  Usually I just look and chmod
[19:44] <akik> jarlath: buying a ssd is such a speed boost compared to a hdd that i can honestly suggest that
[19:44] <jarlath> akik: I have SSD in it and will put one in the new model.
[19:46] <lordcirth> jarlath, 2.13 Ghz 2 core HT  vs 2.4Ghz 2 core HT.  And the turbo freq is the same, 2.9.  I don't see that much improvement.
[19:47] <lordcirth> jarlath, Wait, which laptop do you already have?
[19:47] <jarlath> lordcirth: thanks. I've seen such price differences between i5 and i7 on Dell's site that I thought it would make a big diff. I have the Dell one at the moment (i5) and I'm eyeing up the HP.
[19:47] <lordcirth> jarlath, The dell is faster.
[19:47] <lordcirth> 2.4 Ghz vs 2.1
[19:48] <jarlath> lordcirth: thanks, glad I asked as I had it backwards :)
[19:48] <lordcirth> jarlath, np.  What is slow, exactly?  Are you sure it's CPU?
[19:49] <catopett> I do not like DELL, i am a HP-person my self
[19:49] <lordcirth> 2.4 isn't that bad for a laptop.  4GB RAM is a bit small though.
[19:49] <jarlath> lordcirth: The Dell runs well and I was going to just get a 2nd one. But when I saw the HP for the same price and i7 vs i5 I thought maybe I should consider it.
[19:50] <lordcirth> jarlath, I thought you were replacing the laptop.  You want a second one?
[19:51] <jarlath> lordcirth: yes, one was for my daughter - we got it cheap. But it turned out to be the snappiest machine in the house :) So now that she's using it more I'm getting tired of my 9 year old lump that's significantly slower.
[19:51] <lordcirth> jarlath, Ah I see.  Well, of those 2, the Dell is better, but I think you could get a different laptop that's better.
[19:52] <lordcirth> Depending on your budget, maybe.
[19:52] <jarlath> lordcirth: much appreciated. I'll dig around a bit more. But the price is quite good and I won't be gaming.
[19:53] <jarlath> lordcirth: out of curiosity, what spec would you boost and by how much if you had to pick one - cpu? I already have a spare SDD.
[19:53] <catopett> whait does this mean? "Connection reset by peer"
[19:54] <jarlath> catopett: it means the server/service you were downloading from/logged into has dropped your connection.
[19:55] <jarlath> catopett: for example, if I'm rendering a large web page from my server and I shut it down, that message could appear in the browser that was accessing it. Could be ssh i'm thinking of, can't remember.
[19:55] <lordcirth> jarlath, I would want 8GB RAM.  After that, I would boost CPU single-thread up to 2.8Ghz or so, then I'd look at quad-core.
[19:56] <jarlath> lordcirth: gotcha.
[19:56] <jarlath> Thanks again.
[19:56] <lordcirth> jarlath, np
[19:58] <catopett> DELL = Du Er Lett-Lurt
[20:01] <jnagro> i need ideas debugging why my sdcard reader wont show up in 16.04
[20:02] <jnagro> macbook pro 13" retina (12,1)
[20:02] <jnagro> lots of docks online how to boot from sdcard (never got these to work)
[20:02] <lordcirth> jnagro, lspci, lsusb
[20:02] <jnagro> doesnt show in any of those.
[20:02] <jnagro> i *think* its probbaly a usb device under the covers
[20:02] <k1l_> jnagro: sdcard is known to be an issue on apple hardware.
[20:03] <jnagro> k1l_: so i'm out of luck?
[20:03] <k1l_> jnagro: on some devices the sd-card and wifi chip can interfer. so try to use ethernet instead of wifi and see if that works.
[20:03] <jnagro> interesting.
[20:03] <OerHeks> some cardreaders and wireless have the same controller on macbook pro
[20:04] <jnagro> its not the end of the world, it would just be nice. i have a small microsd storage expansion thing that fits perfectly in the slot - works in OSX
[20:04] <jnagro> which would effectively double the storage i have available
[20:04] <jnagro> but, like i said, not the end of the world.
[20:04] <OerHeks> is your wireless BCM57765 by any chance ?
[20:05] <jnagro> 03:00.0 Network controller: Broadcom Corporation BCM43602 802.11ac Wireless LAN SoC (rev 01)
[20:07] <PickledEggs> Thank you ioria and Bashing-om, I've got it down now. My Linux teacher did a terrible job of explaining how that part of cp works and confused me by erroneously telling us that without -p files would always take on the permissions of the destination directory, which is simply untrue.
[20:08] <lordcirth> PickledEggs, many IT teachers who try to do a Linux unit do poorly
[20:09] <PickledEggs> yeah, no kidding - I often feel like I have a better grasp on the material than her, and I only know what I've had to pick up to keep my AWS and Google Compute Engine web servers running
[20:10] <lordcirth> I was lucky and got a really good teacher that year, he actually wrote the Linux+ textbook
[20:11] <PickledEggs> the Sybex one?
[20:11] <lordcirth> PickledEggs, https://www.goodreads.com/author/show/4019770.Jason_W_Eckert
[20:12] <lordcirth> Also he was on the team that ported Gentoo (and the linux kernel) to mips64
[20:16] <PickledEggs> damn, that's cool
[20:17] <PickledEggs> what school if you don't mind me asking?
[20:19] <MonkeyDust> guys keep that for -offtopic
[20:19] <lordcirth> MonkeyDust, sorry
[20:20] <Guest93007> hi
[20:20] <Bashing-om> PickledEggs: :) .. this is
[20:20] <Bashing-om> 'buntu .. we are all in this together .
[20:20] <Guest93007> does anyone knows what `Unnamed/non-netdev interface` means in the output of $iw dev?
[20:20] <Guest93007> https://ghostbin.com/paste/x4ocd
[20:27] <pilne> i really don't know what i did to cause this, and it has happened on several varieties of ubuntu (unity, xubuntu, gnome, and mate), and several versions (15.04, 15.10, and 16.04). when i first install and pop up a terminal, i get a prompt instantly. After a while, when pulling up a terminal, it takes about a second or so to get a usable prompt, any ideas?
[20:28] <auronandace> pilne: you can wait a second or so
[20:28] <lordcirth> auronandace, he can, but that wasn't the question
[20:28] <pilne> i mean i do, i've never let that be the reason i re-install (that happens when i do something massively stupid lol), but it is a bit of a niggle i'd like to rid myself of.
[20:29] <lordcirth> pilne, if you run "history" how long is it?
[20:29] <pilne> 135
[20:29] <lordcirth> Ah, that's probably not it then
[20:29] <lordcirth> pilne, if you open a new tab in the terminal, is it fast?
[20:29] <pilne> the only *wierd* thing i install could be nvm for managing node.js versions
[20:30] <lordcirth> What about when you run "bash"
[20:30] <pilne> new tab has same delay
[20:30] <lordcirth> pilne, did nvm put anything in your .bash_profile or .bashrc ?
[20:30] <pilne> yes, it puts a small shim in to control which version of node loads
[20:30] <lordcirth> in .bashrc ?
[20:30] <lordcirth> That's probably it
[20:31] <pilne> this is pretty beefy hardware, so i didn't think that would be the cause, but i wouldn't be surprised to find out it is
[20:32] <lordcirth> pilne, SSD?
[20:32] <pilne> no, i7 2.2ghz, 12gb ram. but spinning platters still >.< lol
[20:32] <pilne> i've been meaning to put a ssd in
[20:39] <MonkeyDust> pilne  ssd isnt the new standard yet, i alsoi have spinning platters
[20:40] <OerHeks> NVMe is the new standard :-) https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/NVM_Express
[20:40] <lordcirth> I have a 250GB SSD and a 1TB, 1.5TB, and 2TB random spare drives with 1TB raidz on each.  It's a weird setup.
[20:42] <compdoc> wasting a little space
[20:47] <enoch85> does ubuntu 16.04 get IP from DHCP at startup?
[20:48] <MonkeyDust> enoch85  yes, unless you changed the network settings
[20:48] <enoch85> it doesnät seem like it, because I provide VMs and my users have connection issues
[20:48] <enoch85> they have to run ifconfig -a to get the correct iface
[20:48] <MonkeyDust> enoch85  ok, try changing the vm network settings to bridged, instead of NAT
[20:49] <enoch85> MonkeyDust: they are bridged... when I package it I get ens33 but my users get something else...
[20:49] <enoch85> MonkeyDust: and ubuntu doesn't recognize it
[20:49] <OerHeks> enoch85, check networkmanager, 'allow all users' enabled?
[20:50] <enoch85> OerHeks: can you be more specific please?
[20:50] <OerHeks> no, just check networkmanager and your connection details
[20:51] <lordcirth> compdoc, me?  If the ZFS ever gets near full, I'll use the rest for scratch space.
[20:51] <enoch85> OerHeks: how do I get to networkmanager from cli?
[20:51] <lordcirth> enoch85, are these Ubuntu desktop or Server VM's?
[20:51] <enoch85> lordcirth: server vms
[20:51] <OerHeks> if you say ubuntu 16.04, we assume the desktop.
[20:52] <enoch85> OerHeks: sorry
[20:52] <enoch85> OerHeks: cutting edge here...
[20:52] <OerHeks> on server you want no networkmanager :-D
[20:52] <lordcirth> For Server, network settings are in /etc/network/interfaces
[20:52] <enoch85> lordcirth: yeah I'm aware of that, that's why I got confused
[20:52] <lordcirth> enoch85, just to be clear, you are making VMs, then sending them to clients?
[20:53] <enoch85> lordcirth: so what should I change, there are now "allow all users" afaik
[20:53] <lordcirth> And it's not working the same on their system?
[20:53] <enoch85> lordcirth: yes
[20:53] <lordcirth> enoch85, VirtualBox?
[20:53] <enoch85> lordcirth: yes
[20:53] <enoch85> vmware
[20:53] <OerHeks> enoch85, hmm i think you need to set static ip
[20:53] <enoch85> lordcirth: they get another iface, that's something new in 16.04
[20:54] <enoch85> depending on location and stuff afaik
[20:54] <lordcirth> enoch85, inside the vm, it gets ens33, but when it boots up on your client's vmware, it gets a different name?
[20:54] <lordcirth> That would happen when the network settings for the VM (in vmware) differ.  ie providing a different emulated NIC type.
[20:55] <enoch85> lordcirth: static? hell no :) then they wouldn't be able to connect if their router is setup differently. this vm get's downloaded liek 100 times per day.
[20:55] <enoch85> lordcirth: I get ens33 inside the VM, and they get something else, not all the time though
[20:55] <Bashing-om> enoch85: I am getting a glimmer that networking interfacing has changed in 16.04/ Does this file /etc/udev/rules.d/70-persistent-net.rules exist ?
[20:55] <OerHeks> https://help.ubuntu.com/lts/serverguide/network-configuration.html#bridging
[20:56] <lordcirth> enoch85, OerHeks recommended static, not me
[20:56] <enoch85> Bashing-om: sec
[20:56] <enoch85> lordcirth: sorry..
[20:56] <lordcirth> One way to fix it is to revert to eth# naming, yeah
[20:57] <enoch85> btw guys, try downloading it yourself: https://cloud.fsgo.se/index.php/s/SEpDJG3JHqoZIyx
[20:57] <lordcirth> enoch85, I'm not sure many here are still on vmware
[20:57] <lordcirth> Virtualbox or qemu/KVM are common now.
[20:57] <enoch85> Bashing-om: /etc/udev/rules.d/70-persistent-net.rules does NOT exist
[20:57] <OerHeks> disable predictable interface naming http://askubuntu.com/a/628504
[20:57] <lordcirth> Ah, owncloud?  Interesting
[20:58] <OerHeks> i would get used to that
[20:58] <enoch85> I'm on esxi so that's why I made them in VMware
[20:59] <lordcirth> enoch85, fyi, vmware is being sued because esxi includes GPL'd linux kernel code.
[20:59] <enoch85> lordcirth: oh crap
[20:59] <lordcirth> enoch85, don't worry, you're not in trouble.
[21:00] <lordcirth> However, I would avoid deploying any new VMWare hosts if you have a choice, it was already losing popularity anyway
[21:00] <lordcirth> May as well switch to KVM or Vbox
[21:00] <enoch85> lordcirth: to late, I set up my new server in esxi just a few days ago
[21:00] <enoch85> vpshere
[21:01] <enoch85> i was thinking of going to proxmox, but no
[21:01] <enoch85> I'm starting a new job next week and they use esxi so I figured I learn something by having it at home as well
[21:02] <enoch85> Bashing-om: what about the /etc/udev/rules.d/70-persistent-net.rules ? should make one?
[21:02] <htns> hi, what is the best resource to learn java ee application development?
[21:02] <enoch85> worst case I will script it so that it runs ifconfig -a and gets the iface which is UP
[21:03] <OerHeks> htns, join ##java or #java for that, ubuntu phone is java-free \o/
[21:03] <enoch85> OerHeks: yay!
[21:04] <OerHeks> not even dalvik ..
[21:04] <enoch85> OerHeks: cool stuff
[21:04] <hp> people i have just installed lubuntu on an old HP laptop. i cannot get the wifi to work, anyone can help to tell me what is the hardware to install? i cannot find it...
[21:04] <enoch85> Bashing-om: I have /etc/udev/rules.d/99-vmware-scsi-udev.rules thoug
[21:05] <enoch85> though*
[21:05] <OerHeks> hp check the drivers util first, type driver in dash
[21:05] <Bashing-om> enoch85: As I am getting a glimmer . Networking has changed .. I have not caught up .
[21:05] <enoch85> Bashing-om: thanks!
[21:05] <hp> OerHeks: type drivers in terminal?
[21:05] <OerHeks> hp if no available driver shows up, open terminal: lspci # and see if the device is listed
[21:06] <OerHeks> hp, no in dash, ubuntu search
[21:07] <hp> OerHeks: i have lubuntu not ubuntu
[21:07] <lordcirth> hp just use "lspci" then
[21:08] <OerHeks> Lubuntu has LXDE menu > Preferences > Additional Drivers.
[21:08] <lordcirth> Oh cool
[21:08] <hp> OerHeks: lordcirth ok i have a list of drivers but i do not udnerstand them, i don't know what i should be looking for
[21:09] <lordcirth> hp, OerHeks has just informed us that Lubuntu has a GUI for this ^
[21:09] <lordcirth> I can never keep track of what variants come with what
[21:09] <OerHeks> 1st part is video .. below that there is AMD/INTEL microcode, and wireless drivers possibly
[21:10] <hp> lordcirth: OerHeks ok checking
[21:10] <OerHeks> on 16.04 i would just do 'sudo ubuntu-drivers autoinstall ' and get over it ( this installs all available items, suitable by default config)
[21:11] <OerHeks> or run: sudo ubuntu-drivers list
[21:12] <OerHeks> systemd-analyze plot > /home/$USER/Documents/isthisniceoristhisnice.svg
[21:12] <enoch85> Bashing-om: please keep me updated if you find anything useful
[21:14] <hp> OerHeks: in ubuntu if you choose to download 3rd party apps and update during the installation you will get all the nesseary drivers, i did the same here in Lubuntu, but did not get the wifi nor flash
[21:14] <hp> will be back might need to restart and see what happens
[21:16] <Bashing-om> enoch85: I am in that learning process .. I Have not to this time made the move to 16.04 // But I will .. and want to be somewhat prepared .
[21:19] <hp> l0rdkermit: OerHeks ok i found the application you wrote about addidtional drivers, there were switched off, i switched them on and restarted. but still no wifi
[21:20] <hp> i
[21:21] <sony> хелло ворлд
[21:21] <sony> есть кто то
[21:22] <minimec> hp: May I join the discussion.... As stupid as it sounds... Check if you have a WiFi-Hardware switch..., then try to run 'iwconfig' and 'rfkill' in a terminal. First command will show you if the system 'sees' your WiFi device. 2nd command would show you, whether the device is 'blocked' or not.
[21:22] <minimec> hp: Also... Give us the exact model name of that HP computer.
[21:23] <hp> minimec: ok 1 moment, the HP laptop is HP pavilion, but not sure which model, it has an 11" screen, it is second hand from someone who has not used it for a while, it has intel core m
[21:24] <hp> i will run your commands now minimec
[21:24] <minimec> hp: The exact rfkill command is 'rfkill list'. You may have to install the program.
[21:25] <paul__> heelo
[21:25] <winston2k> hello
[21:26] <paul__> i am new installed ubuntu mate
[21:26] <winston2k> same here ubuntu-mate
[21:26] <paul__> very clean and fast
[21:27] <hp> minimec: paste of both commands, https://da.gd/zgqv
[21:27] <winston2k> yes it is are you using hexchat?
[21:27] <hp> there is no wifi hardware swtich minimec
[21:27] <paul__> yes
[21:28] <winston2k> im using irssi command line irc client
[21:28] <paul__> that is nice
[21:28] <paul__> irssi is a real chat client
[21:28] <paul__> :-)
[21:28] <minimec> hp: Ok. The system doesn't see any wifi device. Look @ the back of the laptop or under the battery slot and give us the exact model name.
[21:28] <winston2k> still learning
[21:28] <hp> minimec: ok 1 minute
[21:29] <paul__> i am looking for a way to add an event in to lightning calendar tru the panel (clock)
[21:29] <hp> minimec: would the model be 11-n101nx?
[21:29] <auronandace> hp: you may need to use a fn key combination
[21:30] <hp> auronandace: such as?
[21:30] <auronandace> hp: i can't see your keyboard so i don't know
[21:30] <lordcirth> hp, look for a keyboard key with a wifi symbol
[21:32] <minimec> hp: Can you also give us the output of 'lspci' on fedora paste?
[21:32] <paul___> winston2k: here i am with irssi
[21:32] <paul___> :-)
[21:32] <winston2k> awesome
[21:32] <OerHeks> better use paste.ubuntu.com
[21:32] <hp> minimec: ok 1 moment
[21:32] <winston2k> are you fluent in irssi?
[21:32] <paul___> nope
[21:33] <auronandace> paul___: you might like weechat if you want a maintained commandline irc client
[21:33] <lordcirth> just " lspci | pastebinit "
[21:33] <winston2k> irssi is not maintianed anymore?
[21:33] <hp> minimec: https://da.gd/uDlYt
[21:33] <paul___> auronandace: i am already happy that i installed ubuntu mate :-)
[21:34] <OerHeks> carefull with those short url
[21:34] <paul___> on my lenovo
[21:34] <hp> lordcirth: auronandace looked at all keys, no wifi symbol, there is airplane symbol that does nothing
[21:34] <zykotick9> paul___: re: auronandace's weechat suggestion, i've personally _tried_ on twice to switch from irssi -> weechat, but i've returned to irssi both time... YMMV.
[21:35] <zykotick9> s/on twice/twice/
[21:35] <paul__> i need to learn first use hexchat and then irssi ..
[21:36] <minimec> hp: Give us the output of 'lspci -k | grep -A2 Broadcom'. I am looking at this thread on askubuntu... http://askubuntu.com/questions/402341/how-to-enable-drivers-for-bcm43142
[21:36] <PickledEggs> hp: you sure f12 isn't a wifi function toggle?
[21:37]  * zykotick9 is a very terminal-based person ;) http://imgur.com/tSxHIwW
[21:37] <OerHeks> what is the output of # rfkill list
[21:38] <hp> minimec: https://da.gd/qaQx
[21:38] <minimec> hp: I agree with PickledEggs. FN f12 might be a wifi toggler, but even then iwconfig should see the device, even if it is disabled, I guess.
[21:38] <winston2k> my linux buddies shame me into command line...everything
[21:38] <winston2k> so thats why im using irssi
[21:38] <hp> PickledEggs: minimec F12 is the airplane mode, when i use it nothing changes, neither wifi shows up not the internet cuts out
[21:39] <lordcirth> winston2k, it's a fast way to learn, I found
[21:41] <minimec> hp: do you see any devices when you do 'rfkill list'?
[21:41] <hp> minimec: i see bluetooth only
[21:42] <minimec> hp. ok. Give me a moment. It might be that the wrong Broadcom driver is loaded, but I need a 5. min break... ;)
[21:43] <hp> minimec: ok
[21:43] <hp> minimec: :-)
[21:43] <coventry> What is the actual command-line command which kicks off the ubuntu desktop (want it for a docker image.)  As in, after lightdm authenticates you, what commands does it run to start the desktop|
[21:43] <coventry> ?
[21:43] <Jordan_U> winston2k: irssi is most definitely still being maintained and actively developed. What suggested otherwise?
[21:44] <winston2k> Jordan, thought you were drawing a distinction between the two
[21:44] <winston2k> great then ill stay with irssi
[21:44]  * paul___ going to sleep, bye bye
[21:46] <coventry> Ah!  "unity"
[21:48] <jhenke> Hi, I am trying to run Xenail in a KVM VM with Virtio VGA to have proper OpenGL, but it does not get past the plymouth boot screen, so I do not even have a chance to see the cause of the problem. Did anybody got it working already?
[21:48] <jhenke> The kernel should have the proper DRM bits and well as Mesa in xenial
[21:51] <vampi-the-frog> hey guys. is there a midnight commander IRC channel?
[21:51] <compdoc> dont think Ive ever seen a Virtio VGA
[21:52] <compdoc> thats not an option in virt-manager, at least
[21:53] <minimec> hp: Ok. I am back. So you did not have any 'additional dirvers' to install right?
[21:54] <lordcirth> !alis | vampi-the-frog
[21:54] <lordcirth> vampi-the-frog, doesn't look like it
[21:55] <MonkeyDust> vampi-the-frog  no, ask your question here
[21:55] <hp> minimec: i could not find any
[21:55] <hp> minimec: but i found the driver name
[21:55] <vampi-the-frog> well I like how you can view large text files with good performance, and I want to write something to view a particular binary file format, but expanded to text
[21:56] <vampi-the-frog> so, kind of decompiling huge files
[21:56] <minimec> hp: What do you mean by that? "but i found the driver name"
[21:56] <vampi-the-frog> but somehow, make it so you can easily seek through the file (page up, page down, end, home) with good performance
[21:57] <hp> minimec: boardcom 802.11 linux STA wireless driver bcmwl-kernel-source
[21:57] <hp> minimec: not sure if it is or not
[21:57] <MonkeyDust> vampi-the-frog  F3 to view, F4 to edit
[21:57] <PickledEggs> So if I want to stream protected flash content (e.g. mlb.tv, espn3) I have to use Firefox instead of Chrome right? Since FF still has legacy support for NPAPI and PPAPI doesn't support DRM content, right?
[21:59] <vampi-the-frog> MonkeyDust, I know that, I'm trying to add support for a binary format so one could "view" it with F3
[21:59] <hp> minimec: BCM43142 802.11b/g/n is this usedul?
[21:59] <minimec> hp: Ok. That's what I am asking myself. You have the driver 'bcma' loaded, but I guess you need 'bcmwl'.
[22:00] <MonkeyDust> vampi-the-frog  a sort of plugin, you mean?
[22:01] <minimec> hp: We can try to 'blacklist' the 'bcma' driver once, and reboot. That would be the following command in the terminal: echo "blacklist bcma" | sudo tee -a /etc/modprobe.d/wlan-blacklist.conf
[22:01] <minimec> hp: Then reboot. If we are lucky... who knows...
[22:01] <hp> minimec: ok see you in 5 minutes
[22:02] <vampi-the-frog> MonkeyDust, yeah
[22:02] <JohnC> ]
[22:03] <dreamaddict_> real quick...does anyone know where I can find info in order to make a better decision on which libcurl-dev to install...?
[22:04] <MonkeyDust> vampi-the-frog  start here, hope it helps https://forums.linuxmint.com/viewtopic.php?t=104176
[22:04] <user2635> does anyone know how to reset the home folders so they 'return' to the system language? Basically I switched back to english but my folder names haven't yet
[22:04] <MonkeyDust> auch, mint
[22:04] <hp> minimec: did not work :-(
[22:04] <hp> still no wifi
[22:05] <minimec> hp: can you give me the output of 'lspci -k | grep -A2 Broadcom' again?
[22:05] <hp> minimec: ok 1 moment
[22:06] <MonkeyDust> !find libcurl
[22:07] <hp> minimec: https://da.gd/B8mLU
[22:09] <minimec> hp: Did you give me the 'new' output, or just the same as before, because that 'bcma' module is still noaded.
[22:09] <hp> minimec: the new one
[22:12] <minimec> hp: What does '/etc/modprobe.d/wlan-blacklist.conf' give you? It should say 'blacklist bcma'. <ctrl>x to close the nano software.
[22:12] <minimec> hp 'nano /etc/modprobe.d/wlan-blacklist.conf'...
[22:13] <hp> minimec: yes blacklist bcma
[22:14] <Bomber4Chats> OK, I'm having a difficult time figuring out where I'm losing myself when trying to properly install ubuntu, but here we go:
[22:15] <Bomber4Chats> I have an MSI ws60 6qJ workstation laptop. It contains a 256GB SDD hard drive. What the Intel Rapid Storage Technology is showing me is that I actually have a SATA array with 2 128GB PCIe SSDs
[22:15] <Bomber4Chats> Windows is showing me 1 disk for the SSD (there's another HD of 1TB)
[22:15] <Bomber4Chats> so it shows 2 disks, instead of, say, 32
[22:15] <Bomber4Chats> so it shows 2 disks, instead of, say, 328
[22:15] <Bomber4Chats> 3*
[22:16] <minimec> hp: ok. strange... We will remove that blacklist file again... 'sudo rm /etc/modrpobe.d/wlan-blacklist.conf' and verify that the 'bcwl-kernel-source' package is installed 'sudo apt-get install bcmwl-kernel-source'.
[22:16] <Bomber4Chats> What happens is when I set SATA mode in BIOS to AHCI Ubuntu is seeing 2 drives of 128GB. Windows is showing that 40GB of the 256GB SATA array are being used by Windows (C:)
[22:17] <Bomber4Chats> So Ubuntu is not helping me see what not to allocate from the SSDs so as not to ruin Windows for Daul Booting\
[22:18] <Bomber4Chats> I'm not sure what I should be disabling / enabling to have both Windows and Ubuntu agree on some disk partitioning that would have Windows have it's space, and Ubuntu have the ability to take some of that space on the SSD of itself, without ruining Windows
[22:18] <hp> minimec: when i command sudo rm /etc/modrpobe.d/wlan-blacklist.conf i get no file directory
[22:19] <hp> bcmwl-kernel-source  is installed
[22:19] <LtL> hp: modprobe was spelled wrong
[22:19] <Bomber4Chats> (and BTW, if I try to boot to Windows on AHCI, it won't (boot device not find, some similar text). This probably has to do with the fact that Windows was preinstalled on the SSD array)
[22:20] <hp> minimec: bcwl-kernel-source: command not found
[22:20] <minimec> hp: Yeah I misspelled 'modprobe' in the command...
[22:20] <hp> LtL: thanks, fixed
[22:20] <LtL> welcome
[22:21] <LtL> hp: always use tab-completion when possible to avoid typo's
[22:22] <hp> LtL: will do  :-)
[22:23] <minimec> hp: I misspelled that one again. It's 'bcmwl-kernel-source'
[22:24] <hp> minimec: still command not found
[22:25] <minimec> hp: 'sudo apt-get install bcmwl-kernel-source' See... http://packages.ubuntu.com/search?suite=all&section=all&arch=any&keywords=bcmwl-kernel-source&searchon=names
[22:26] <minimec> hp:  Do you have the 'restricted' repository enabled?
[22:26] <hp> minimec: already installed
[22:26] <hp> minimec: not sure if there is a restriction
[22:26] <minimec> hp: So it's installed. ok.
[22:27] <hp> minimec: yep :-/
[22:28] <Bomber4Chats> I hope someone hasn't seen my request yet so they can take a look at it. :P
[22:30] <minimec> hp: So in the following forum post they purge and reinstall that kernel source package (besides blacklisting a Lenovo specific driver). I do not see the reason for that, but I don't really know what to do next. Blacklisting 'bcma' didi not do the trick, as it was loaded after reboot (strange). http://ubuntuforums.org/showthread.php?t=2302450&page=2&p=13398720#post13398720
[22:32] <hp> minimec: hmmmm its ok i will follow their instrcutions and see what happens, i really appriciate your help, there seems to be other inconsistancies with other firmware anyway, sound does not work etc...
[22:32] <hp> thank you so much :-)
[22:32] <danawar> Hi Ubuntu i don't know where to take this question but inside networking on my VPN i tick the box 'use this connection only for resources on its network' and i cannot access resources on the network but if i untick i can additionally if i untick i no longer have working internet ! :(
[22:34] <LtL> minimec: does ubuntu need a 'deb-src' line in /etc/apt/sources.list to get source code?
[22:34] <igs> yes
[22:35] <minimec> LtL: Yes. If you want the sources of a package you need the 'deb-src' line of the according repository.
[22:35] <LtL> roger :)
[22:50] <OerHeks>  
[23:01] <cyborg_> is irc HTTPS , I can debug., the information on this side or can say irc HTTPS programs for irc programming.:)
[23:02] <cyborg_> irc programs are https  ?!
[23:03] <Dysko> ko
[23:03] <Bomber4Chats2> So my windows boot manager is currently residing on my RAID0 array, which is running on my ssd.
[23:03] <Bomber4Chats2> I want to install Ubuntu on a part of that ssd.
[23:03] <YankDownUnder> cyborg_, https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Internet_Relay_Chat
[23:03] <cyborg_> after small program call ether ape too show protocol
[23:04] <Bomber4Chats2> Kinda sounds like a mission in impossible, no? I don't have a Windows 10 install disk / iso
[23:04] <cyborg_> pinging drones wired.
[23:04] <Bomber4Chats2> And I shouldn't think about deleting the raid volume, right?
[23:05] <OerHeks> Bomber4Chats2, you can obtain one free from ms, ask in ##windows
[23:05] <cyborg_> tcpspy shows yes. irc is secure.
[23:06] <YankDownUnder> cyborg_, https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Internet_Relay_Chat
[23:06] <OerHeks> you can enable ssl for irc, but https apps for irc ..
[23:07] <lordcirth> cyborg_, IRC is secure if enable ssl, but many don't.  So don't assume it's secure.
[23:07] <cyborg_> over out...developer
[23:09] <seeit> hello, can someone help me troubleshoot setting up xrdp on a 14.04 Server running on azure?
[23:11] <OerHeks> seeit, https://help.ubuntu.com/community/xrdp .. else find the azure channel howto setup the host
[23:12] <Bomber4Chats2> If I have backed up an image of Windows to an external drive, will it incluse a Windows installer?
[23:12] <seeit> been there, and its not working, thanks
[23:18] <danes> hello, I am trying to extend my monitor to a third display using an hdmi to vga adapter. Right now I can mirror screens but not extend it. Any suggestions?
[23:19] <guest5351> hello
[23:21] <guest5351> hi
[23:23] <danes> hi
[23:28] <hey00> Hello, I just came back to ubuntu (mint), and after some updates, I have a software updater popup asking me to reboot. If I click "restart later", it comes back 10 minutes later. Anyone know how to make sure that popup will never again pop up on my screen?
[23:29] <winston2k> click restart now
[23:29] <HackerII> usually, when it asks to reboot, it needs to be rebooted
[23:29] <OerHeks> hey00, click reboot, and it will disappear
[23:30] <OerHeks> or wait, is this a mint issue? happens on ubuntu too anyway
[23:30] <hey00> OerHeks: no, I don't want to reboot, and I don't want my OS to keep nagging me
[23:30] <HackerII> el oh el
[23:31] <HackerII> man-up and reboot
[23:31] <hey00> I tried fiddling with the settings but got nothing.
[23:31] <HackerII> !mint
[23:32] <hey00> I installed ubuntu mint (official ubuntu flavor). And I didn't install linux to put up with windows-like bullshit, I want control of my system, I want to turn that popup off
[23:32] <Bomber4Chats2> Doesn't step 2 of the answer to this SO question delete windows from the disks? http://askubuntu.com/q/660023/552466
[23:32] <HackerII> android has your name on-it
[23:33] <danes> hello, I am trying to extend my monitor to a third display using an hdmi to vga adapter. Right now I can mirror screens but not extend it. Any suggestions? can I do it directly on the terminal?
[23:35] <hey00> No idea?
[23:35] <OerHeks> hey00, install dconf-editor, and edit com.ubuntu.update-notifier >> http://i.imgur.com/uUbiv7F.png
[23:35] <hey00> OerHeks: thanks, I'll try that
[23:36] <OerHeks> but you will need a reboot to activate i guess
[23:36] <zee> can some one pleas help me
[23:36] <zee> basically i downloaded the OS by using unetbootin and it worked but the thing is windows is still there taking up a bunch of space also everything i download and update deletes everytime i restart or shutdown my computer im new to all this please for the love of god help me!!!
[23:37] <zee> basically i downloaded the OS by using unetbootin and it worked but the thing is windows is still there taking up a bunch of space also everything i download and update deletes everytime i restart or shutdown my computer im new to all this please for the love of god help me!!!
[23:38] <OerHeks> a live usb is just a live usb, nothing get stored (unless you created a persistance part)
[23:38] <zee> how exactly do i do that
[23:39] <hey00> zee: do you want to install ubuntu on your hard drive or keep using a live usb?
[23:39] <zee> i want to install it on my harddrive @hey00
[23:40] <zee> i want to delete windows but not till i get ubuntu to start saving my info
[23:40] <jay_> in mly hard disck for me but my os is Kubuntu
[23:40] <hey00> then once you boot on the live usb, you should have an "install ubuntu" icon on your desktop. click it and follow
[23:41] <zee> ok ive tried that but it wont let me because too much space is being used by windows
[23:41] <coollinuxpenguin> dont install on bad
[23:41] <coollinuxpenguin> hdd
[23:41] <coollinuxpenguin> it wont work
[23:42] <zee> what is a bad hdd
[23:42] <coollinuxpenguin> hdd is hard disk drive
[23:42] <zee> how do you know if its bad or not
[23:43] <coollinuxpenguin> before install do a the live disk
[23:43] <OerHeks> bad hdd is an prelimenairy conclusion, zee needs to make free space in windows first, then start the usb with installer
[23:43] <coollinuxpenguin> and check disk
[23:43] <hey00> I see. I guess you used the automatic install when prompted. I don't know how ubuntu does it. I would use gparted to reduce the windows parition and create a new empty one, then the manual mode of the install to tell it to use that new one
[23:43] <zee> idk what a live disc is either im extremely new to all this
[23:43] <OerHeks> !install
[23:44] <coollinuxpenguin> that willl help
[23:45] <kshenoy> Can someone help me figure out why urxvt doesn't display a glyph properly? The glyph in question is U+29C9
[23:45] <coollinuxpenguin> you will love ubuntu
[23:45] <zee> hey00: yes i did automatic install . how do i figure  put which partition is windows
[23:46] <coollinuxpenguin> how many partitions are there
[23:48] <zee> i think like 4 or 5 let me check real quick
[23:48] <LtL> zee: windows partition will be labeled NTFS
[23:49] <LtL> zee: fdisk -l
[23:50] <zee> ltl: you still there?
[23:50] <LtL> zee: yes
[23:51] <zee> can u do a private chat with me so the rest of these chat pop ups wont confuse me
[23:52] <LtL> zee: we should keep it in the channel for cross-checking purposes, i am not familiar with live installs.
[23:52] <zee> ok
[23:53] <zee> ltl: i have three rows that says ntfs
[23:53] <zee> how do i know which one to do
[23:54] <LtL> zee: the proper way to dual boot is boot windows, use disk management to shrink the NTFS partition and leave unallocated space for linux.
[23:54] <zee> one says SYSTEM 199.00 MiB ..... the other sayd /cdrom 213.42 Gib
[23:54] <LtL> zee: thats weird, i won't touch that.
[23:55] <minimec> zee: try '/ignore * JOINS PARTS QUITS' without '' in the chat text line. If you are lucky, there will be much less 'flodding' in the #channel.
[23:55] <LtL> zee: okay, you have windows and a windows recovery partion, both you keep. the cdrom is irrelevant
[23:56] <LtL> -*partition
[23:56] <john38> does anybody here know anything about GLabels????
[23:56] <tominator> What partition table can be read by BIOS and UEFI?
[23:57] <LtL> zee: the point is to prepare the hdd for linux properly. from windows.
[23:57] <OerHeks> !uefi
[23:58] <tominator> ubottu: I'd like for it to work on both
[23:58] <zee> ltl: ok so delete cdrom
[23:58] <tominator> oh
[23:58] <OerHeks> Size: minimum 100Mib. 200MiB recommended.
[23:58] <OerHeks> Type: FAT32
[23:58] <OerHeks> Other: needs a "boot" flag.
[23:58] <tominator> Does GPT work on BIOS?\
[23:59] <OerHeks> sure
[23:59] <LtL> zee: no, eject it. i dunno what youre doing with a cdrom partition.
[23:59] <zee> do i go to windows to do this or use ubuntu