[00:00] <tarpman> teward: not being snarky - being specific so you know where to look for more details :)
[00:00] <tarpman> teward: but now I'm curious, how do you have rsync but not the manpage?
[00:00] <teward> tarpman: question asked by coworker over texts
[00:00] <teward> IRCing from my iPhone :p
[00:00] <tarpman> fair!
[00:19] <Xin> yo homies
[00:19] <Xin> any rsync peeps in here
[00:19] <Xin> I need to set up a bi-directional file sync
[00:20] <Xin> well, actually between 3 nodes
[00:20] <Xin> so 2 links per node
[00:20] <Xin> basically so all my servers self-replicate changes, wherever they're made
[00:21] <Xin> overwriting files with newer modified times, adding new files, deleting explicitly deleted files
[00:21] <Xin> or is there something better than rsync for that?
[00:22] <Xin> like some kind of replicating filesystem or somesuch
[00:37] <Hawky__> I found a dead link on the http://conjure-up.io homepage. It's been there for weeks. I emailed webmaster@ubuntu.com and webmaster@conjure-up.io, but it's still busted
[00:38] <Hawky__> the link is: The latest CONJURE-UP news - More CONJURE-UP news from Ubuntu Insights
[00:39] <Hawky__> thought I might as well report it here incase any of the web admins for conjure-up.io are listening :)
[00:40] <Xin> a broken link? ON A WEB PAGE?!
[00:40] <Xin> CALL THE PRESIDENT WE NEED TO GET HIM ACROSS THIS ISSUE NOW
[00:40] <therealtbe> report it to w3c immediately
[00:40] <Hawky__> lol
[00:40] <therealtbe> thunderbirds r go
[00:40] <Hawky__> Slap bang in the middle of the homepage no less!
[00:42] <therealtbe> ubuntu server 14.04 installing from usb key;  it says it cannot mount CD-ROM.  there is no cdrom.  it's running from usb key duh
[00:43] <Hawky__> lol
[00:43] <therealtbe> why does it try to mount cd-rom when there is no cd-rom
[00:51] <therealtbe> hello?
[01:19] <teward> ikonia: jrwren: thanks to you both on the dovecot assists the past week or so - thanks to your assistance, and the Ubuntu community at large, and Google, my migration task of 9.10 -> 14.04 is DONE ^.^
[01:19]  * teward can now work on the fifty other projects he has
[01:29] <Xinny> hey peeps is there a way I can dump a file of packages loaded in apt-get so I can pipe it into apt-get on another system to do an approximately same/same setup?
[01:29] <Xinny> php -i
[01:29] <Xinny> ...
[01:29] <Xinny> lol soz
[01:35] <teward> Xinny: dpkg --get-selections
[01:35] <teward> if you want to store it so you can move the file over: dpkg --get-selections > packages.txt
[01:35] <teward> then move packages.txt
[01:36] <teward> that's one way anyways
[01:37] <Xinny> thx teward - someone in #ubuntu suggested apt-clone too
[01:37] <Xinny> both look perfect
[01:37] <teward> Xinny: the one I just stated doesn't save auto or manual installed data though
[01:37] <teward> not sure about apt-clone
[01:37] <teward> also, for the future...
[01:37] <teward> !crosspost | Xinny
[01:37] <teward> pick one, wait there
[01:37] <Xinny> fair enough haha :)
[01:37] <teward> if you don't get a reply in an hour consider a crossposte
[01:37] <teward> crosspost*
[01:37] <Xinny> lool who's got an hour to sit on their hands
[01:38] <Xinny> for that kind of time id use forums
[01:38] <Xinny> xD
[01:38] <teward> :P
[02:14] <Xinny> hey why does ubuntu server not include 'mail'
[02:14] <Xinny> where do I get that
[03:11] <jrwren> congrats teward
[03:28] <dirty> need some help guys; I have a new supermicro server with 10 drive bays filled with 512GB SSDs, I have two SATA controllers, one is sSATA and the other SATA
[03:28] <dirty> four of the drives are on the sSATA controller, the other six on the SATA controller, in the installer for ubuntu server, under the partitioner for guided LVM, I get raid10 device #126 973.0 GB - Software RAID device
[03:29] <patdk-lap> so, what exactly is this so called sSata thing?
[03:29] <patdk-lap> hopefully they are ahci controllers though
[03:29] <dirty> patdk-lap: it's the second bios controller applicable to four of my 10 drives
[03:30] <dirty> they are ahci
[03:30] <dirty> the other six are on a "SATA Controller"
[03:30] <patdk-lap> yes, but you are not naming the controllers
[03:30] <dirty> s/bios controller/bios sata controller/
[03:30] <patdk-lap> well, everything has a bios, and the bios is unrelated to anything else in the system
[03:30] <dirty> patdk-lap: right, that's the nomenclature under the aptio BIOS within the supermicro mobo
[03:31] <patdk-lap> yes, so what is it?
[03:31] <patdk-lap> or maybe, what is it you are attempting to do?
[03:31] <patdk-lap> instead of talking about all this non-meaningful infomation
[03:32] <dirty> uhm, how else do I make this clear... I have 10 drive bays, four are controller by a "sSATA controller" under the aptio bios, the other six are under the "SATA Controller", all are set to AHCI, not RAID, and not IDE
[03:32] <patdk-lap> they have names and model numbers :)
[03:32] <dirty> patdk-lap: be tact, or don't attempt to help please?
[03:32] <dirty> I need help, not chiding
[03:34] <patdk-lap> actually, you need help locating *any* infomation first
[03:34] <dirty> the problem is with the drive configuration recognition for the Guided - use entire disk and set up LVM
[03:34] <patdk-lap> like the model of your supermicro motherboard, the model number of the chipsets used
[03:34] <patdk-lap> and the all overal best part, the actual question or problem you have
[03:34] <patdk-lap> the overall description above doesn't even matter yet
[03:34] <dirty> wow
[03:34] <Xinny> whats the package I need to add for ssh?
[03:34] <patdk-lap> cause no one knows what it is in relation to
[03:34] <patdk-lap> Xinny, openssh-server or openssh-client
[03:35] <Xinny> ty, and what about for vpn
[03:35] <Xinny> openvpn-server?
[03:35] <Xinny> xD
[03:35] <patdk-lap> vpn?
[03:35] <patdk-lap> well, if you mean openvpn, openvpn
[03:36] <Xinny> virtual private network
[03:36] <Xinny> haha ok ty
[03:36] <patdk-lap> yes, that is a generic concept :)
[03:36] <patdk-lap> could mean, openvpn, ipsec, pptp, ...
[03:36] <Xinny> Sure, its an open question. I dont have any specific security model in mind.
[03:36] <Xinny> It just needs to be a tunneling protocol of some variety I can use on both windows and linux
[03:37] <patdk-lap> openvpn for more simple, or strongswan if you want to have real fun :)
[03:37] <Xinny> openvpn will probably do just fine
[03:38] <dirty> patdk-lap: I'm setting up LVM across 10 drives, six of which are being recognized as SCSI[1-10], of which 5-8 are being globbed as RAID10 device #126 - 973.0 GB Software RAID Device, this is a SuperMicro SuperServer 1018R-WC0R
[03:38] <dirty> does that help?
[03:38] <patdk-lap> so the question is?
[03:39] <dirty> I need the RAID10* device "unwrapped" as individual block devices to manage
[03:39] <patdk-lap> you don't want that raid10 thing?
[03:39] <dirty> patdk-lap: yeah
[03:39] <patdk-lap> ah, just go into your bios and tell it to use ahci, and not raid
[03:39] <dirty> patdk-lap: did that, they're already labelled AHCI buddy
[03:39] <patdk-lap> any more specific, I still need your model info
[03:39] <patdk-lap> and time to actually real your motherboard manual
[03:40] <patdk-lap> if it was, it wouldn't show as raid
[03:41] <dirty> patdk-lap: calling my bluff then?not trying to start any ego crap, but seriously, I did my diligence and triple sanity checked
[03:41] <dirty> it's AHCI on both controllers
[03:41] <dirty> not RAID or IDE
[03:41] <patdk-lap> yes, and my instructions are generic
[03:41] <patdk-lap> since I still don't know what you have
[03:42] <dirty> what else do you need? starting to crack me up here, I swear I'm being as clear as I can
[03:42] <patdk-lap> http://superuser.com/questions/384536/how-do-you-disable-bios-raid-on-supermicro-x9scl-x9scm-motherboard
[03:42] <patdk-lap> you still have not posted any model infomation at all
[03:42] <patdk-lap> I asked several times for the model of your motherboard, and sata controllers
[03:43] <patdk-lap> ah, once the raid infomation is set, looks like your screwed
[03:43] <patdk-lap> have to wipe it manually
[03:44] <dirty> patdk-lap: I never set it to RAID, and for good measure I wiped the drives manually using dd if=/dev/zero of=/dev/sd? bs=512 count=4
[03:44] <dirty> from the rescue shell
[03:44] <patdk-lap> that hardly even clears the mbr
[03:45] <patdk-lap> it won't touch a gpt partition
[03:45] <patdk-lap> or raid config
[03:45] <patdk-lap> try, dmraid -r /dev/sd?
[03:45] <dirty> patdk-lap: here's the mobo http://www.supermicro.com/products/motherboard/Xeon/C600/X10SRW-F.cfm
[03:45] <patdk-lap> if you really want to use dd
[03:46] <patdk-lap> atleast use bs=1M count=10
[03:46] <patdk-lap> that will work if it's at the start
[03:46] <patdk-lap> can't remember if it is at the end or not
[03:46] <dirty> patdk-lap: alright, excuse my reactions, thanks for attempting to help, I'll attempt your suggestion and be right back here, carry on if you have more info I'm trying.
[03:47] <patdk-lap> -r E /dev/sd? likely
[03:48] <RoyK> dmraid?
[03:48] <RoyK> !dmraid
[03:49] <dirty> RoyK: trying to say don't use dmraid there?
[03:49] <RoyK> something like that
[03:49] <dirty> patdk-lap: alright I'll dd larger to bs=1M
[03:49] <patdk-lap> maybe mdadm :)
[03:49] <dirty> with a count of 10
[03:50] <dirty> what would be the mdadm command suggestion to be sure if there's any RAID shit set, that it's unset
[03:50] <patdk-lap> no difference
[03:50] <patdk-lap> dmraid can handle more than mdadm
[03:50] <RoyK> dirty: I didn't follow - what sort of raid are you building?
[03:50] <dirty> so mdadm -r /dev/sd?
[03:50] <patdk-lap> I think mdadm can only do two of those types
[03:50] <patdk-lap> dmraid can do more
[03:50] <patdk-lap> royk, he is attempting to destroy it
[03:51] <patdk-lap> it was built automatically
[03:51] <RoyK> ah - dd is the guy, then
[03:51] <dirty> right
[03:51] <dirty> we'll see how it goes
[03:51] <dirty> I'm almost to the rescue shell
[03:51] <patdk-lap> the intel raid header is a complex mess though
[03:51] <dirty> this installer is a bit drawn out
[03:51] <dirty> patdk-lap: seems that way
[03:52] <patdk-lap> it's kindof like audio wave files
[03:52] <Xinny> how do I enable root for openssh
[03:52] <patdk-lap> very flexable and nice, but kindof hell to deal with
[03:52] <Xinny> actually nm ill google it
[03:52] <RoyK> patdk-lap: some audio porn to help the raid up?
[03:52] <patdk-lap> you want a moaning track?
[03:52] <dirty> bout time, got to my shell
[03:52] <dirty> attempting the dd @ 1M
[03:55] <dirty> hmm interesting, the target block devices seem to be giving me output on the dmraid -r /dev/sd?
[03:56] <dirty> patdk-lap: I'll run through the installer again and see where I get this time, thanks for trying to help me ;)
[03:57] <dirty> also applied the dd @ 1M bs at 10 counts
[03:57]  * dirty fingers crossed
[04:00] <RoyK> some raid systems store metadata at the end of the disk
[04:01] <Magnetz741> When I get "Server accepts key:" in ssh -v, while my attempts at authenticating give "Permission Denied (publickey)" does that mean it won't accept my AuthorizedKeysFile?
[04:02] <RoyK> Magnetz741: try chmod 0600 $HOME/.ssh/authorized_keys
[04:02] <Magnetz741> It asks for the passphrase on the key, even though there isn't one. If I set PasswordAuthentication yes, it asks for both keys and doesn't fail to connect
[04:03] <Magnetz741> RoyK: Alright, I had it at chmod 700
[04:03] <dirty> ahhh yay, well now the installer is showing something a bit different fellas, so instead of the "RAID10 device #126 - 973.0 GB Software" now I'm getting "RAIDmd126 device #:RAIDactive device #(auto-read-only)RAIDraid10 device....
[04:03] <dirty> RoyK and patdk-lap any other suggestions?
[04:03] <RoyK> Magnetz741: no need for +x for a config file
[04:03] <patdk-lap> you need to reboot likely
[04:03]  * RoyK has no idea
[04:03] <patdk-lap> it's cause you just dd'd it
[04:04] <patdk-lap> but it didn't remove what it had already knew about
[04:04] <dirty> patdk-lap: well I also peformed the dmraid -r /dev/sd?
[04:04] <dirty> so, next step please? this almost feels like progress
[04:04] <patdk-lap> ya, but that is the same as dd really
[04:04] <patdk-lap> it doesn't remove it from the system
[04:05] <dirty> well ff, I'm open to suggestions... again, the controllers in the BIOS are both AHCI...
[04:05] <dirty> so... I'm open for suggestion
[04:06] <dirty> need to get this damn server rolling for prod soon, this is a drawn out "fun" hangup I didn't expect
[04:07] <Magnetz741> RoyK: Weird, .ssh seems to be owned by root, in /home/user/.ssh/, I still get Permission Denied (Publickey)
[04:07] <dirty> s/th AH/th set to AH/
[04:09] <dirty> patdk-lap: "10x SATA3 (6Gbps) via C612" on that mobo... so I guess the controller is a C612?
[04:10] <patdk-lap> but that only does 8 I believe
[04:10] <RoyK> Magnetz741: it must be owned by the user
[04:10] <dirty> patdk-lap: well the way it appears in the BIOS is 4 and 6
[04:11] <dirty> the other would be... Intel SATA
[04:11] <dirty> that's f'in generic
[04:11] <patdk-lap> strange
[04:11] <dirty> I have four in question... the other six show up fine in the ubuntu server installer
[04:12] <dirty> that's why I kept bringing up the sSATA and SATA crap... my assumption is the C600 controller is handling the four and labeled "sSATA controller" in the aptio BIOS
[04:12] <dirty> yeah it's a bit bizarre to me
[04:13] <patdk-lap> ah
[04:13] <patdk-lap> it's the normal 6 via the intel ICH
[04:13] <patdk-lap> and 4 via the c612
[04:14] <dirty> right...
[04:14] <dirty> that aligns with my thought
[04:14] <patdk-lap> the manual on the board is horrible
[04:14] <dirty> ns
[04:14] <dirty> leave it to .tw
[04:15] <patdk-lap> hmm, dunno about the ssata thing
[04:15] <patdk-lap> have never used it before :(
[04:15] <dirty> the ssata thing is just how the C612 appears in the BIOS
[04:16] <dirty> it's very similar to the Intel SATA in terms of configuration
[04:16] <patdk-lap> ya, it's a funny chip, it actually doesn't do anything, pretty much just gpio pings
[04:16] <patdk-lap> and the driver has to emulate sata on it
[04:17] <dirty> patdk-lap: the intent here is to do software RAID 1 on two of the drives for the OS, and the other 8 RAID 10 if that means anything, but wiht this hangup holding four of my drives hostage, I'm in a bit of a ringer
[04:20] <Magnetz741> Royk: Well if I do chmod 600 on ~/.ssh I can't even read the permissions, even while I've chowned the file to the correct user, every guide says chmod 700 for .ssh and it hasn't given my issues with logging in while ~/.ssh is chmod 700 and PasswordAthentication yes is set in /etc/ssh/sshd_config, I get "Permission denied (publickey)" when I set PasswordAuthentication no, and it still asks for both the rsa key's passp
[04:20] <Magnetz741> RoyK*
[04:21] <Xinny> weird question, I want to rename something to the current unix timestamp ?
[04:21] <Xinny> dynamically
[04:21] <dirty> patdk-lap: when I attempted an FBSD install... it reconized all 10 of the block devices distinctively; but bhyve is too experimental for my goal, so I went to Ubuntu server in hopes that I could do LVM instead of ZFS and get KVM rolling
[04:22] <RoyK> Magnetz741: the dir should have 0700 - the files under it should have 0600
[04:22] <dirty> I don't know if that makes any difference to you, maybe it's a device driver issue with the current ubuntu-server stack?
[04:23] <patdk-lap> no
[04:23] <patdk-lap> did you do a reboot yet?
[04:23] <dirty> I had
[04:23] <dirty> I'll do it again right now for good measure
[04:26] <Magnetz741> RoyK: Yeah, that's how it's set now, still get Permission denied (publickey)
[04:27] <Magnetz741> RoyK: I also doublechecked the keys, they match
[04:27] <patdk-lap> and owned by the user of that folder?
[04:27] <patdk-lap> not root?
[04:27] <Magnetz741> patdk-lap: Yep
[04:27] <Magnetz741> patdk-lap: Host/Server is Ubuntu 14.04 LTS while the client is Arch
[04:28] <Magnetz741> Checking ssh versions
[04:29] <dirty> patdk-lap: same crap on reboot
[04:29] <dirty> should I do a longer dd, is there anything else you can think of to destroy this pseudo RAID array?
[04:30] <Xinny> is it possible to config my domains dns records so that it tries my dev server first, and if its offline, refer the request to a backup server?
[04:30] <Xinny> or do I have to reset my a record each time
[04:30] <patdk-lap> :(
[04:31] <patdk-lap> longer won't help likely
[04:31] <patdk-lap> but wiping the last 10megs of the disk, probably won't hurt
[04:37] <dirty> man, what a effin pita
[04:48] <Magnetz741> I'm trying to remember how the hell I had this set successfully before
[04:48] <Magnetz741> -_-
[04:51] <Magnetz741> ssh is backwards compatible right?
[04:52] <Magnetz741> So differing versions couldn't be the issue, client being Arch and later than the server which is Ubuntu 14.04?
[05:07] <RoyK> ssh is backwards compatible unless you use something like ssh v1, but that dates back 15 years
[05:23] <Magnetz741> RoyK: It was because I was trying to authenticate using the public key x'D
[05:26] <dirty> YESSSS!!!!!
[05:26] <dirty> thanks guys!
[05:27]  * RoyK likes a YESSS
[05:27] <Magnetz741> Now here's the real question, should I dist upgrade my webserver?
[05:27] <RoyK> Magnetz741: I always do that
[09:40] <syeekick> "error connecting to /tmp/tmux-1000/default (No such file or directory)
[09:40] <syeekick> " anyone had this error before, i've never had tmux fail on me