[05:06] <nkf1> Is it known when a Ubuntu Touch phone will be back in stock? It currently seems that they are all out of stock (besides the M10, which is not a phone).
[06:49] <tboston> nkf1: how would the devs know?
[06:49] <tboston> they dont sell hardware
[06:51] <OerHeks> some shops do have them in stock https://www.amazon.de/Aquaris-4-5-Smartphone-Ubuntu-schwarz/dp/B00U80JX3C/280-6774267-3381342
[09:25] <marklyford> Hi everyone, new ubuntu user but looking to get ubuntu touch running on a phone, anyone got any suggestions of what best phone I should get to run touch on ? (Apart from the ubuntu shipped products) I quite like the samsung note phones but looking for suggestions if possible. thanks in advance
[10:44] <bitanarchy> What is the best phone for ubuntu touch?
[10:45] <bitanarchy> Which is available in europe
[11:33] <anaran> bitanarchy: I did not find any. Meizu Pro 5 UE is sold out. Also Firefox won't be available on a phone for the foreseeable future, which is a stopper for me.
[11:54] <bitanarchy> you can put ubuntu touch on a nexus 5...
[11:56] <bitanarchy> anaran: meizu pro 5 probably needs to be shipped from china... but how can it be sold out??
[12:03] <anaran> bitanarchy: website says so: http://www.joybuy.com/1104324.html. Also, they only offered a gold model before, probably some left over stock nobody wanted :-)
[13:05] <Guest63944> Hi, did anyone try 'piracast' with an meizu 5 pro ?
[13:06] <popey> what's piracast?
[13:06] <Guest63944> its a miracast receiver for the raspberry pi
[13:07] <popey> neat. not tried it. might give it a go though
[13:08] <Guest63944> the bad thing is, that you need a special tp-link wifi-dongle that supports it :(
[13:09] <Guest63944> i dont have a wifi dongle yet, thats why i am asking
[13:09] <popey> oh, that's annoying
[13:10] <Guest63944> okok, so i will have to try that myself ;)
[13:12] <Guest63944> i have another question: is there a non-terminal way to remove apps comletely?
[13:13] <Guest63944> there are several files left after i 'removed' chatter from my phone, for example
[13:14] <popey> Guest63944: sudo click unregister foo.click 1.0
[13:15] <Guest63944> popey: so, there is no way achieving this in the gui?
[13:16] <popey> sure, long press on the app and choose uninstall
[13:16] <popey> you asked for terminal though so that's what I gave you :)
[13:17] <Guest63944> yes, and this uninstallation will leave several files on the phone. in .local/share/.. for example
[13:18] <Guest63944> hehe, i was asking for a non-terminal way :P
[13:19] <popey> oh, sorry, my bad
[13:19] <popey> yeah, we have an open  bug for the files in your home directory, sorry about that
[13:21] <Guest63944> the problem i had was the following: chatter refused to work for me. i decided to reinstall it. reinstallation didnt solve the problem. So i uninstslled the app and additionally deleted the folder in local/share. -> problem solved, chatter works again
[13:22] <Guest63944> popey: ok, thanks :)
[15:50] <pana> hello? Is anyone around I can ask sth related to porting to a new device?
[16:05] <pana> \help
[16:11] <ahoneybun> nhaines: I think we should make a list of some bluetooth mouses that work with Ubuntu Touch
[16:13] <popey> ahoneybun: there are mice that don't!?!
[16:13] <ahoneybun> popey: the one I have
[16:13] <popey> which make / model?
[16:13] <ahoneybun> Microsoft Designer Mouse
[16:13] <popey> does it have an actual model number on the bottom?
[16:14] <ahoneybun> nope very clean on the bottom
[16:14] <popey> https://www.microsoft.com/hardware/en-gb/p/designer-bluetooth-mouse
[16:14] <popey> is that it?
[16:14] <ahoneybun> yea
[16:14] <popey> ah, it's bluetooth 4
[16:14] <popey> that's probably why
[16:14] <ahoneybun> now if someone says it is because of that BLE
[16:14] <ahoneybun> Logitech Ultrathin Touch Mouse T630
[16:14] <ahoneybun> that has BLE and it works
[16:15] <ahoneybun> https://docs.google.com/spreadsheets/d/1tfAwXhfHZ-zbjECO0QUnT6MCz81YKAmjAdhGHxHz3fA/edit#gid=0
[16:15] <popey> that says bluetooth
[16:16] <popey> not le
[16:16] <ahoneybun> btw popey the switching from desktop to tablet is fast and nice
[16:16] <ahoneybun> mm?
[16:16] <popey> I think it really is just bluetooth LE only devices that you will have issues with
[16:16] <popey> not generic bluetooth ones
[16:18] <ahoneybun> popey: that makes it hard for me to choice a mouse that I know will work
[16:18] <popey> not really
[16:18] <popey> just avoid the bluetooth le ones
[16:18] <ahoneybun> mm
[16:18] <popey> the logitech one specifically says it's bluetooth 3.0
[16:18] <popey> so just avoid the 4.0 ones
[16:18] <ahoneybun> http://www.amazon.com/Logitech-Ultrathin-Touch-Mouse-Windows/dp/B00DR8LA6U
[16:19] <ahoneybun> this one is pretty cool
[16:19] <ahoneybun> with gestures
[16:19] <popey> neat
[16:19] <ahoneybun> works decent with scopes
[16:20] <ahoneybun> can we only get the NearBy scope with a special channel?
[16:21] <popey> dunno, my device has it
[16:22] <popey> i like that it shows my two nearest pubs at the top :)
[16:22] <ahoneybun> mm rc-proposed does not have it
[16:22] <ahoneybun> I think ubuntu/rc-proposed
[16:24] <popey> http://imgur.com/hsHahRX nearby shows me two pubs, a curry place and a chip shop. so british :)
[16:25] <popey> mine is the meizu pro 5 so whatever channel that's using
[16:26] <popey> ubuntu-touch/stable/meizu.en
[16:27] <ahoneybun> I think I have ubuntu-touch/rc-proposed/ubuntu
[16:27] <ahoneybun> on the Nexus 7
[17:04] <dobey> ahoneybun: https://uappexplorer.com/app/com.canonical.unity-scope-nearby
[17:39] <mariogrip> dobey: did you see my message 1 or 2 days ago?
[18:04] <ahoneybun> dobey: it has 0 reviews which was odd to me
[18:04] <popey> its hard to review scopes
[18:04] <popey> the ui doesn't make it easy
[18:04] <ahoneybun> oh
[18:05] <dobey> mariogrip: yeah. i don't have any miracast devices, so i can't test it.
[18:05] <mariogrip> dobey: ah ok :)
[18:22] <JanC> I think the only way to review scopes is by searching for them in the store, right?
[18:38] <XaRz> I need some newbie info about this bug: https://bugs.launchpad.net/ubuntu/+source/webbrowser-app/+bug/1408760
[18:39] <XaRz> This bug is not tagged in ubuntu Touch right?
[18:40] <XaRz> Because I have the same in ubuntu touch m10 (frieza) and I don0t know if the developers are aware of this bug.
[19:06] <dobey> JanC: yes
[20:22] <mariogrip> someone with an nexus 5 and an microsoft miracast device?
[20:27] <mariogrip> or, is there someway i can simulate a miracast device?
[20:28] <svij> mariogrip: there are miracast receiver apps for android. Does that might help you?
[20:28] <mariogrip> svij: maybe i'll try, Thanks! :D
[20:28] <svij> mariogrip: good luck :)
[20:46] <mariogrip> humm, it cannot find any devices, but i don't know if that's something to do with ubuntu or android...
[20:53] <mariogrip> ok, i tried a different android app now, and now it finds the device, but nothing happens when i try to connect.
[20:54] <mariogrip> popey: ping