[00:00] <zee> gives me option to unmount, manage flags or info
[00:00] <LtL> zee: windows, but i don't know what kind of mess your HDD is in. windows wont even recognize linux partitions
[00:00] <zee> im on ubuntu gparted right now
[00:00] <tominator> Does GPT work on BIOS?
[00:01] <OerHeks> let windows do the ntfs partitioning change, as advised in the docs
[00:02] <LtL> zee: get out of ubuntu, boot windows
[00:02] <OerHeks> diskmanagmnt.msc something
[00:03] <zee> im on ubuntu gparted right now cd rom partition if its there. do i shrink anything?
[00:04] <zee> wait sorry so boot windows- go to disc management-
[00:04] <LtL> tominator: GPT can work with BIOS, yes
[00:05] <LtL> zee: yes
[00:05] <zee> then if a cdrom partition is there eject it- do i shrink anything ntfs related or will the computer do all that for me?
[00:05] <LtL> zee: who or what made a cdrom partition?
[00:06] <kshenoy> Anyone using urxvt here?
[00:06] <zee> then boot again open ubuntu and click download ubuntu lts?
[00:06] <LtL> zee: eject the cdrom for now
[00:06] <tominator> Does GPT work on BIOS?
[00:06] <HackerII> yes
[00:07] <zee> i have no idea its just been there when i opened gparted
[00:07] <OerHeks> tominator, why repeating and not reading answers?
[00:07] <zee> idk if it will still be on windows disc managment
[00:07] <tominator> Oh, I missed it, I'm sorry
[00:07] <OerHeks> crossposting channels?
[00:07] <tominator> I'll maximize the windows :P
[00:08] <LtL> zee: i would download the iso image from windows, open a dos prompt go to the download dir, insert a blank dvd/cd and type 'isoburn /q <filename.iso>'
[00:08] <tominator> So, if I want to install Ubuntu on a portable disk that would work on BIOS and UEFI computers, what would I do?
[00:08] <tominator> Kind of an "everydrive"
[00:09] <LtL> zee: but use diskmanagement to shrink the ntfs partitions ansd leave space for linux unallocated
[00:10] <Xin> holy crap
[00:10] <zee> ltl: idk how to do any of that dos prompt, download dir, etc
[00:10] <Xin> the kubuntu live cd is the slowest thing ive ever experienced
[00:10] <OerHeks> tominator, install with uefi disabled, and make sure Grub install is on the same drive. i don't know a double install solution.
[00:10] <mtvmcgrt> is it safe to delete a initrd.img file from /boot?  I just recovered from an out of disk space error and that's hanging around /boot
[00:10] <OerHeks> so you need to disable uefi to boot
[00:11] <OerHeks> *every time
[00:11] <LtL> zee: zee to be safe reboot, it will run chkdsk, if that suceeds boot the install cd/dvd and tell it to use unallocated space to install, put the bootloader in the mbr of drive 1
[00:11] <tominator> Alrighty. But with UEFI disabled on the installation, It won't boot on recent computers?
[00:11] <OerHeks> and using an ext hdd on multiple machnes, the hardware should be identical
[00:11] <tominator> Also, How do I disable the UEFI on the installer?
[00:12] <mtvmcgrt> Also, how many kernel versions should be retained by the autoremove function?   I thought it was supposed to be latest -2 but I'm seeing latest -5
[00:12] <LtL> tominator: disable secure boot in bios
[00:12] <tominator> Ah, I see
[00:12] <tominator> Alright, thank you guys!
[00:12] <Xin> and the installer keeps crashing lool
[00:12] <Xin> thats great
[00:12] <HackerII> bad burn ?
[00:13] <OerHeks> gbear14275, 2, current and the previous one
[00:13] <LtL> Xin: checksum the burn
[00:13] <tominator> Oh, one last thing, should I go with 32 or 64 bit? Is it worth it, since 64 bit can run 32?
[00:13] <OerHeks> gbear14275, good way to change nickname after asking something
[00:13] <Xin> I did
[00:13] <Xin> ah well
[00:13] <zee> ltl: only problem is i didnt use a cd to install i used unetbootin does that make a diff
[00:13] <LtL> tominator: go 64 if its a 64 bit cpu. i.e., amd64
[00:13] <Xin> ima build up from server-minimal
[00:14] <tominator> Okay, but if I want it on a 32bit chip as well as 64?
[00:14] <Xin> tominator; you can just include kernels for each eh
[00:14] <LtL> zee: unetbootin messes up debian installer, i suspect it will do the same to ubuntu, i never ever use it
[00:14] <tominator> Oh?
[00:14] <OerHeks> tominator, lolz ..
[00:14] <tominator> How?
[00:14] <Xin> just add them through software manager
[00:15] <gbear14275> OerHeks, apologies, just for fun what's your output from listing your installed versions? sudo dpkg --list 'linux-image*'|awk '{ if ($1=="ii") print $2}'
[00:15] <Xin> same with any drivers your other servers need
[00:15] <zee> oh ok so i just get the cd and start from scratch ltl?
[00:15] <tominator> So 64bit Ubuntu can run on a 32bit computer if I have the right kernals? XD
[00:15] <LtL> tominator: 64bit will not work on a 32bit cpu
[00:15] <Xin> 64 bit software wont run, so you will need to bundle that too
[00:16] <tominator> Okay, thats what I thought
[00:16] <Xin> you can use 32-bit on a 64 bit so that can be an easy solution
[00:16] <Xin> but you're handicapping yourself
[00:16] <LtL> Xin: exactly
[00:16] <tominator> Ah, So not worth it then
[00:17] <tominator> to be able to boot on the few 32bits left
[00:17]  * LtL chuckles
[00:17] <gbear14275> tominator, do you know how much RAM your computer has?
[00:18] <Bashing-om> gbear14275: Keep 2 initrd.img files at least . .. and if 'autoremove ' did not function as expected .. there is a pronlem in the packge management system . Is the package manager now broke ?
[00:18] <tominator> Well, my goal is to have a usb drive that I can boot off of, to do maintenece, or take over a computer if I need to
[00:18] <tominator> Lets go with 4gigs
[00:19] <tominator> 2 at least and 16 at most
[00:19] <gbear14275> Bashing-om, trying to figure out how my /boot got full... it looks like autoremove wasn't removing old kernels
[00:19] <minimec> kshenoy: '29c9' doesn't work either in xterm, but '00a1' for example does. Could it be a problem of 'extended ascii code'?
[00:20] <gbear14275> for example right now autoremove says nothing to remove yet I have kernels (59, 60, 62, 67, 69 & 71)... a few more than latest -2
[00:20] <LtL> gbear14275: autoremove doesn't touch kernels
[00:20] <OerHeks> gbear14275, let me guess, uname -a says 60 in use?
[00:20] <kshenoy> minimec: Thx for responding. I don't know what that problem is.
[00:20] <tominator> gbear14275: lets say 4gb
[00:20] <kshenoy> minimec: But in general, I find xterm to be quite lacking when it comes to unicode support
[00:20] <Bashing-om> gbear14275: If the partition is full .. then apt has no head room to operate with .. is one explanation . Now may be a real pain to fix if the package manager is broke .
[00:21] <gbear14275> tominator, apologies, not really relevant if you're making a live-usb, but 32bit OS'es can't address more than 4 gigs of RAM without special extensions.  So if you had more than 4 I was going to say go 64 bit to use all your RAM
[00:21] <tominator> Ah, I see, interesting
[00:21] <Bomber4Chats2> Would love to hear if anyone has dealt with installing Ubuntu with dual boot on a RAID0 system
[00:22] <tominator> Alright, i think thats all, I shall return if I need anything else. Thank you guys, you're all incredible
[00:22] <gbear14275> OerHeks, Bashing-om; yes, just got done manually recovering from a 100% full /boot... one of the reasons it was full was because of excess old kernels (which I thought autoremove took care of)...
[00:23] <minimec> kshenoy: I don't have urxvt installed here. I use guake, gnome-terminal and xfce4-terminal (for irssi only). So I cannot help you further.
[00:23] <gbear14275> OerHeks, 71 now...
[00:23] <kshenoy> minimec: I'm able to see the glyph when I open my Xresources file in gvim so I know it's not a font issue
[00:23] <gbear14275> but yeah, I'll have to make sure it's automatically rebooting after upgrades so the running version doesn't keep it from removing old versions
[00:23] <kshenoy> minimec: Are you able to see the glyph in any of those?
[00:24] <minimec> kshenoy: ?
[00:24] <minimec> kshenoy: GOt that?
[00:24] <gbear14275> LtL, autoremove doesn't touch kernels?
[00:24] <kshenoy> minimec: Are you able to see the glyph in guake/gnome-terminal/xfce4-terminal?
[00:24] <LtL> gbear14275: no
[00:25] <kshenoy> minimec: Sorry, got what? Last message I saw from you was saying you don't have urxvt...
[00:25] <Xin> any rsync folks in here? I need to make a bi-directional sync so on both ends of the rsync it sync's; overwriting files with newer modified times, adding new files, deleting explicitly deleted files
[00:25] <LtL> gbear14275: just don't uninstall a kernel you're booted into
[00:25] <Bashing-om> gbear14275: Let's look at the sloppyation / Pastenin the outputs of ' ls -al /usr/src/ ' ls -al /lib/modules/ ' ls -al /boot ; dpkg -l | grep linux- '. See what we are going to have to do . .. autoremove only works when you invoke it .. there are ways to do that aitomatically removing kernels .. but not the fefault behavour .
[00:25] <Xin> or is there a better tool for this?
[00:25] <minimec> I just printed it. I try again... "?". Do you see the sign between the ""
[00:25] <Xin> Do any of the google drives or anything have native linux clients
[00:25] <Xin> ?
[00:25] <minimec> kshenoy: ^
[00:26] <kshenoy> minimec: Err, I see a question mark between the quotes
[00:26] <cosmicfires> what email clients are there to replace thunderbird?
[00:27] <minimec> kshenoy: Ok. So the sign is 'two squares" slightly defferred... right?
[00:27] <kshenoy> Yep, you can see it here: http://graphemica.com/%E2%A7%89
[00:28] <OerHeks> cosmicfires, tons of emailclients, depends on your requirements really https://apps.ubuntu.com/cat/department/mail/
[00:28] <gbear14275> LtL; I'm reading this, but I might be misunderstanding it: http://askubuntu.com/questions/563483/why-doesnt-apt-get-autoremove-remove-my-old-kernels
[00:28] <Evan> if my private key has a password, can i pass that as an argument in the command instead of having to manually type it at a prompt?
[00:28] <cosmicfires> thanks,
[00:29] <aiaiov> Hello
[00:30] <gbear14275> how would I setup a headless machine to both automatically update and remove old files (including kernels)
[00:30] <gbear14275> want to avoid another out of disk error
[00:30] <minimec> kshenoy: So xterm and urxvt sre not able to display that unicode. Don't know if there is a solution to that. Easiest solution is to use a different terminal software.
[00:31] <kshenoy> minimec: Right, I wanted to check if anyone with URxvt also has the same issue
[00:32] <kshenoy> minimec: Also, what's the extended ascii problem you were referring to?
[00:32] <LtL> gbear14275: i'm a debian guy, i've never removed kernels with autoremove, maybe ... apparently it can, looks painful though.
[00:33] <minimec> kshenoy: I was just confused with ascii/unicode...
[00:33] <jamesd> LtL: do know what's even more painful, doing it manaully on 600 servers.
[00:33] <jamesd> automation for the win
[00:33] <LtL> jamesd: agreed
[00:34] <neredsenvy> Why do my ssh keep dropping after like 30-60s
[00:34] <aiaiov> gbear14275: look into the unattended-upgrades package, should so some of what you need.
[00:35] <aiaiov> gbear14275: the rest can be done with a crone job to remove unnecessary files like apt-get autoclean
[00:35] <jamesd> neredsenvy: ping -c 1000   remoteserver     and see if it drops packets
[00:37] <neredsenvy> jamesd: So far past the DC point tho not 1 packet dropped
[00:38] <neredsenvy> I did ssh -v root@...
[00:38] <neredsenvy> Nothing special
[00:38] <aiaiov> gbear14275: you can also do this: sudo apt-get purge linux-image-x.x.x.x-generic , then update-grub2 to update the system
[00:39] <jamesd> neredsenvy: make sure you don't have a timeout set in yoru sshd config files... never heard of a 60 second timeout but i guess it could happen, we had 5minutes for a while at work
[00:39] <Bashing-om> gbear14275: 'uname -r' to show the booting kernel .. do not mess with the this one .
[00:39] <neredsenvy> Where are my ssh config files
[00:39] <jamesd>  /etc/ssh
[00:39] <OerHeks> do it serverside /etc/ssh/sshd_config: ServerAliveInterval 300 (seconds)
[00:41] <LtL> Xin: really
[00:42] <neredsenvy> No timeout set in ssh on server or my machine
[00:43] <OerHeks> https://help.ubuntu.com/lts/serverguide/index.html good start
[00:44] <jamesd> try seeting  this to 30
[00:44] <jamesd> $ cat ~/.ssh/config
[00:44] <jamesd> Host * ServerAliveInterval 60
[00:44] <jamesd> ServerAli... is on its own link
[00:44] <jamesd> er line
[00:46] <LtL> off for a smoke...
[00:46] <Keeper_> i have an rtl8723be wifi issue ive tried everything but reverting back to 12.04 can someone help
[00:47] <kandinski> I run Ubuntu Vivid on a x220, and at some point in the past month my multimedia buttons and OS level keystrokes (like ctrl-alt T for a new terminal) stopped working
[00:47] <kandinski> how should I go about diagnosing/debugging this issue?
[00:48] <OerHeks> upgrading to a supported version might help
[00:48] <OerHeks> !vivid
[00:48] <kandinski> otherwise?
[00:49] <minimec> kandinski: you can start 'xev' in the terminal put the mouse pointer in the square of the window and press the keys. See if they give some feedback in the terminal where you started xev before.
[00:49] <Bomber4Chats2> Just to confirm, currently Ubuntu cannot be properly installed on a RAID0 array, correct?
[00:50] <Keeper_> i have an rtl8723be wifi issue ive tried everything but reverting back to 12.04 can someone help it seems as if for a moment i am able to turn on wifi then it turns itself off
[00:51] <kandinski> minimec: I see the events, it seems ctrl-alt produces an event, then T produces a second event
[00:52] <kandinski> so it's three events (ctrl-L down, alt-L down, t down) on down, and three more on up. Is that what I should expect also on a laptop where the shortcuts work?
[00:53] <minimec> kandinski: First of all, some keystrokes you mention are defined in the user session. Do you use the unity desktop. Open >settings>keyboard and go to the shortcuts tab. MOst of them are defined there
[00:54] <kandinski> they are defined there, and enabled as far as I know. No Custom Shortcuts defined that could be overriding the default ones either.
[00:54] <kandinski> (yes, I'm using Unity)
[00:57] <minimec> kandinski: Check the AudioMute (or similar) button once with 'xev'. If it shows up correctly, then the keyboard should be recognized correctly. You could then try to reset the unity desktop to its default settings or add a new 'test-user' once, login and check the buttpns with that new user. If it works, your unity setup has a problem.
[00:58] <kandinski> An event is received, but XLookupString recognises 0 bytes
[00:58] <kandinski> minimec: thanks
[00:58] <kandinski> I'll fiddle with it a bit, report after
[00:59] <minimec> kandinski: Hmm... I see now that AudioMute is not shown as AudioMute...
[01:05] <Xinny> hey guys and girls how can I run an instance of chromium as another user easily?
[01:05] <Xinny> I want 2 instances in the same desktop as different users
[01:05] <Xinny> preferably labeled as the user somehow
[01:06] <minimec> kandinski: First of all... You should upgrade your distribution. 'Vivid' is end of life. After the upgrade, your problem should be solved, as it seems to be a known bug... https://bugs.launchpad.net/ubuntu/+source/texmaker/+bug/1386111
[01:07] <samthewildone> Is 15.04 LTS Gnome not supported anymore ?
[01:07] <samthewildone> https://wiki.ubuntu.com/UbuntuGNOME/GetUbuntuGNOME
[01:07] <samthewildone> not listed there.
[01:07] <samthewildone> ah
[01:07] <samthewildone> 9 months
[01:09] <dani_> ello
[01:10] <dax> samthewildone: correct, you want 14.04 or 16.04
[01:10] <Velveeta_Chef> Is it just me or does the built in Software tool suck
[01:10] <samthewildone> dax, 16.04 isn't working for me, I need my amd drivers.
[01:10] <samthewildone> dax, I'm not going to wait 3 - 6 months for them to start working on hd7000 series cards.
[01:11] <dax> samthewildone: have fun with 14.04 then, and hope that something else works for you by 2019
[01:12] <dax> samthewildone: and pay close attention to the ongoing situation discussed in https://tjaalton.wordpress.com/2016/03/11/no-catalystfglrx-video-driver-in-ubuntu-16-04/
[01:13] <dax> (personally, I have a 7870 and have been using Radeon for years, but then I don't try to shoehorn Linux into uses it's not good at)
[01:13] <samthewildone> dax, I've been following and saw that amd release new beta drivers for the "newer" cards.
[01:13] <igoryonya> Hello, I want to make a shared /var/cache/apt/archives folder. I.e. it would be a mounted network disk, available by all Ubuntus on the LAN. I am wondering, maybe there is some kind of fuse file system, that will watch over this disk, so it will make sure that while a file is in partial directory, wait the other system will not be able to download the same file and continue with the next.
[01:13] <dax> s/Radeon/radeon/
[01:14] <samad> hi guys
[01:14] <dax> samthewildone: the current state of amdgpu for the 7000 series is worse than radeon
[01:14] <dax> samthewildone: it's a highly alpha not-intended-for-users thing with no 3d acceleration
[01:15] <igoryonya> Then, configure automatic update in the way, so that it will retry on failed downloads automatically, after a certain while. By that time the first os, that was already was downloading that file already has placed it to the archives directory and it will just install on the second retry.
[01:15] <uRock> SOunds like the built in drivers in ubuntu.
[01:15] <dax> uRock: the built-in AMD drives in Ubuntu have 3d acceleration
[01:16] <rox> are you guys talking about video drivers?
[01:16] <dax> you may not like its performance compared to Catalyst, but it at least exists :P
[01:16] <uRock> They don't allow for using HDMI for sound, which breaks one of the main purposes for my PC.
[01:16] <dax> they do on my 7870
[01:17] <dax> which card do you have?
[01:17] <uRock> dax, it is the reason I am dual booting 16.04 with 14.04
[01:17] <rox> anyone here got ubuntu 16.04 running with nvidia optimus?
[01:17] <uRock> dax 6400
[01:17] <Xinny> uRock; if you want to build a pc for a given purpose using any specific operating system
[01:17] <Xinny> scope what hardware will work with that os...
[01:18] <uRock> Xinny, it worked fine, then 16.04...
[01:18] <Xinny> so then maybe time to build a new rig ;0
[01:18] <uRock> Xinny, money doesn't grow on trees.
[01:18] <Xinny> I at times upgrade my pc every month lol, selling near new run in and tested hardware
[01:19] <Xinny> for more than I paid
[01:19] <uRock> SOunds like fun
[01:19] <OerHeks> nice, but this goes offtopic
[01:19] <dax> uRock: strange. https://www.x.org/wiki/RadeonFeature/ lists that chipset as having hdmi audio support
[01:19] <Xinny> People dont know what things mean in computerlandia, they just want to pay a decent price and have it work well
[01:19] <uRock> dax, it won't list in the SOund to select it.
[01:20] <uRock> dax, I admit that I haven't really tried very hard to get it working, yet
[01:22] <neredsenvy> I tracked my ssh drop error to
[01:22] <uRock> dax, I've only been using 16.04 for a week and I have a Windows PC doing the job for now.
[01:22] <neredsenvy> packet_write_wait: Connection to ..... port 22: Broken pipe
[01:22] <neredsenvy> what is this
[01:24] <uRock> neredsenvy, try https://askubuntu.com/questions/127369/how-to-prevent-write-failed-broken-pipe-on-ssh-connection
[01:25] <jason_> im having some screen tear issues invubuntu mate. i have an amd chipset. any idea?
[01:25] <uRock> jason_, which release?
[01:25] <jason_> 16.04
[01:26] <uRock> Are you using VLC?
[01:26] <LtL> neredsenvy: likely your ISP
[01:26] <Uhelp> HELLO!  My Internet worked until I followed instructions for Installing x Ubuntu and now it doesn't. ... what do I do to get my wifi working?  Radio is switched on.  Thanks
[01:26] <jason_> no seems apparent across applications
[01:29] <Keeper_> i have an rtl8723be wifi issue ive tried everything but reverting back to 12.04 can someone help
[01:34] <Xinny> hey peeps is there a way I can dump a file of packages loaded in apt-get so I can pipe it into apt-get on another system to do an approximately same/same setup?
[01:35] <bazhang> !aptoncd | Xinny
[01:35] <Xinny> I dont actually need the packages
[01:35] <moxygeren> my ubuntu keyboard settings there is a key called "super"... so, when i press Shit+Super+Space it makes something. May i know what's the Super key? All i have is Ctrl, Alt, Tab, Backspace, Enter, Home, Insert, End, Page Up, Page Down, Delete, Num Lock beside the common alphabet and numeric and signs keys
[01:35] <Xinny> just their names
[01:35] <Bashing-om> !get-selections
[01:35] <bazhang> !clone | Xinny
[01:35] <Xinny> the server is on the other side of the world with a much faster internet connection haha
[01:35] <Xinny> ahh legend
[01:36] <Xinny> cheers!!
[01:38] <Xinny> whats the easiest way to acron a file copy when the modification time changes
[01:50] <guest5351> what if i dont upgrade my 15.10 now ?? can i able to use it ??
[01:51] <guest5351> its because i dont connect my laptop to internet and dont do any gaming or programming
[01:51] <Bashing-om> guest5351: Though you may use it after EOL .. there will be no security fixes or any updates .
[01:52] <guest5351> i Just use it for playing music
[01:52] <guest5351> i use internet and all other things on desktop pc
[01:53] <guest5351> I Got 15.10 there also and PlanninG to UPGrade Desktop to 16.04 soon
[01:53] <Bashing-om> guest5351: Long as the system does not break ,, well-  one can continue to use it . there will be no software repository for repairs .
[01:53] <guest5351> oo
[01:54] <guest5351> I heard Ubuntu 16.04 LTS takes lot of resources
[01:54] <guest5351> my laptop is dual core 2.16 GHz
[01:54] <guest5351> 3GB DDR2 RAM
[01:54] <guest5351> and Intel 4000 Grapics
[01:55] <guest5351> My friend says that 16.04 LTS will Lag on this configuration
[01:56] <winston2k> 16.04 mate running smoothe on eeepc1000 netbook w/ 2 gigs ram
[01:56] <Bashing-om> guest5351: Nope .. You exceed the minimum ram for a good ecperience ( 2 Gigs ) . You should be fine on 16.04 .
[01:56] <winston2k> with compiz and 4 desktops
[01:58] <guest5351> ok then i will upgrade
[02:00] <hammer25> I'm going to be building a pc in a few months with the intention of running ubuntu as the primary OS
[02:00] <Swanmark> Cool.
[02:00] <hammer25> with several other VMs on top
[02:00] <Swanmark> To do what?
[02:00] <hammer25> mostly doing programming stuff. is a graphics card necessary?
[02:01] <Swanmark> Nope.
[02:01] <Swanmark> As long as there's onboard graphics on your CPU.
[02:02] <hammer25> cool. thats what i assumed. I was looking at the i7 6700k
[02:03] <Swanmark> Yeah that should be fine
[02:03] <E_one> hi everyone!!
[02:03] <Swanmark> http://ark.intel.com/products/88195/Intel-Core-i7-6700K-Processor-8M-Cache-up-to-4_20-GHz
[02:03] <Swanmark> Look at the advanced technologies
[02:03] <Swanmark> Intel Virtualization
[02:03] <Swanmark> You should look into that before building
[02:07] <hammer25> So does VT-x just automatically do its thing? How much configuration is needed?
[02:09] <Swanmark> hammer25: I'm not familiar with it, sorry.
[02:09] <Swanmark> You'll have to do some research yourself. :P
[02:09] <hammer25> Will do
[02:10] <kandinski> minimac: sigh, I wasn't looking forward to upgrading. Making my backups now.
[02:10] <hammer25> I'm actually learning about this stuff in the military right now, its pretty cool
[02:10] <Swanmark> Good luck, Hammer.
[02:11] <Nalalan> boa noite galera preciso de ajuda
[02:11] <kandinski> !pt
[02:12] <Swanmark> Helloooooooo again
[02:12] <Swanmark> Would someone help me with my locale?
[02:12] <Swanmark> Can't seem to change it :(
[02:16] <Swanmark> When I make changes in /etc/default/locale
[02:16] <Swanmark> ... they don't do shit.
[02:17] <Swanmark> When I run the locale command, I dont get what I saved in mentioned file
[02:17] <Swanmark> even after logging out and back in
[02:23] <givonne> swan what r u trying 2 do?
[02:23] <guest5351> had anyone used puppy linux ??
[02:23] <cha> nop guest
[02:23] <guest5351> it can be used in 128 MB Ram they saying
[02:24] <cha> wow
[02:24] <Swanmark> givonne: My locale is wrong! :(
[02:24] <Swanmark> I can't change it
[02:24] <egggs> sure have 5351 works great for old systems,  but this is support for   ubuntu  :/
[02:24] <Swanmark> givonne: http://paste.is/16915/
[02:25] <Swanmark> I want all of that to be is_IS.UTF-8
[02:28] <guest5352> hi
[02:28] <givonne> swan if u do locale -a does is_IS.UTF-8 come up?
[02:29] <Swanmark> Yep.
[02:30] <egggs> heya guest5352 how goes it
[02:31] <givonne> swan and u do a "locale-gen is_IS.UTF-8" ?
[02:32] <atralheaven1> to kill a process by its name, I should use "pkill" right?
[02:32] <Swanmark> It's up to date.
[02:32] <Swanmark> I just need to change the locale from POSIX to is_IS.UTF-8
[02:32] <soLucien> what's the lowest memory version of Ubuntu server?
[02:32] <Swanmark> soLucien: I've ran it on 256MB, not sure if that's the lowest
[02:33] <soLucien> i'm looking for a Ubunti version that can function as a router
[02:33] <soLucien> so as little memory as possible
[02:33] <soLucien> Ubuntu *
[02:33] <soLucien> Swanmark i assume not all versions of Ubuntu can work on 256 MB RAM
[02:34] <guest5352> how to configure router on ubuntu ??
[02:34] <soLucien> i have tried the latest version, and the best i could do was 300 mb
[02:34] <Swanmark> Not desktop versions, no.
[02:34] <bigdissaved> quick question, where is a good place to post screen shots, I have one to share for help needed.....
[02:34] <soLucien> under 300 mb it would not boot
[02:34] <soLucien> pasteboard.com
[02:34] <soLucien> pasteboard.co*
[02:34] <Swanmark> Huh.
[02:35] <soLucien> Swanmark the screenshot question by bigdissaved
[02:35] <Swanmark> The 256mb in question was a VPS that I rented
[02:36] <Swanmark> So that might have been altered in some way.
[02:36] <soLucien> Swanmark  i see.
[02:36] <soLucien> i want something similar
[02:36] <Swanmark> Only ubuntu server I've ran myself was on a 16GB machine
[02:36] <mundus2018> apt-add-repository: command not found
[02:36] <mundus2018> is it different in 16.04?
[02:36] <bigdissaved> http://pasteboard.co/1rGwEb30.png
[02:36] <Swanmark> givonne: Any idea how to change the locales?
[02:37] <givonne> ideas yes.  you can change the system setting instead of doing it manually.
[02:37] <bigdissaved> I will get the sys info, wifi module is not working atm... has anyone seen this before? it is on current build, an i915 chipset
[02:37] <Swanmark> givonne: Yes please, how do I go about doing that?
[02:39] <givonne> i'm running 16.04 LTS  in the GUI, top right corner, the gear icon, click.  the drop down will give you an option for system settings.  the first line will have an option language.  you can change the system language there.
[02:40] <Swanmark> givonne: only command line here :D
[02:40] <brasilconect> oi
[02:43] <Swanmark> Thanks for trying, givonne. :)
[02:44] <givonne> what happens if u edit the file manually & change the "Lang=" variable to "Lang="is_IS.UTF8"
[02:45] <brasilconect> givonne:
[02:45] <Swanmark> That's what I've done already. Here's my file: http://paste.is/16916/
[02:47] <givonne> swan.  the file you just showed me has "en_US" for LANG, not "LANGUAGE
[02:48] <givonne> swan.  sorry.  your 2nd file has LANG="en_US.UTF-8" but no "LANGUAGE" variable
[02:49] <Swanmark> Yeah I could add LANGUAGE as well.
[02:49] <Swanmark> But those 3 variables do not change in the locale command though.
[02:49] <givonne> swan try adding "LANGUAGE=en_US"
[02:49] <bigdissaved> has anyone seen thishappen? is it mostly with text... console, etc... http://pasteboard.co/1rGwEb30.png
[02:50] <Swanmark> givonne: Do I have to logout for the effect to take effect?
[02:50] <Swanmark> And close screen etc.
[02:51] <givonne> swwan logout & login again
[02:51] <Swanmark> Screen can stay open?
[02:51] <Swanmark> Nope, didn't work.
[02:54] <givonne> swan first type out the file.  make sure changes took.  try a reboot.  if u can reboot.
[02:56] <givonne> swan  my file looks like this:
[02:56] <givonne> LANG=en_US.UTF-8
[02:56] <givonne> LANGUAGE=en_US
[02:56] <givonne> LC_CTYPE="en_US.UTF-8"
[02:56] <givonne> LC_NUMERIC="en_US.UTF-8"
[02:56] <givonne> LC_TIME="en_US.UTF-8"
[02:56] <Swanmark> givonne: I could reboot, but I got some things running, can't just reboot like right now
[02:56] <Swanmark> Oh boy. :P
[02:57] <Swanmark> Drone`: pls
[02:59] <givonne> swan u can copy that to a new file.  backup your old file with a rename & rename the new.  see what happens/
[03:00] <givonne> swan what happens if you just do this at the command line?  $ LANG=en_US.utf8
[03:00] <Swanmark> givonne: That's kind of what mine looks like, just fewer variables.
[03:01] <Swanmark> givonne: that does not change it
[03:02] <givonne> anyone with experience running 14.04 in virtual box?
[03:02] <givonne> anyone with experience getting php7 running on 16.04?
[03:02] <Swanmark> I think I fixed my issue givonne
[03:02] <Swanmark> Thank you for your help
[03:02] <Swanmark> brb.
[03:04] <givonne> swan how?
[03:07] <Xinny> stupid question but whats the key combo for pasting into a straight tty
[03:08] <Xinny> im running in a vm and clipboard sharing is on, but ctrl+v doesn't work nor ctrl+alt+v
[03:13] <dirty> need some help guys; I have a new supermicro server with 10 drive bays filled with 512GB SSDs, I have two SATA controllers, one is sSATA and the other SATA
[03:14] <dirty> four of the drives are on the sSATA controller, the other six on the SATA controller, in the installer for ubuntu server, under the partitioner for guided LVM, I get raid10 device #126 973.0 GB - Software RAID device
[03:14] <dirty> for the sSATA controller...
[03:14] <dirty> these are unused drives
[03:14] <dirty> there is no RAID set
[03:15] <dirty> under the FBSD installer all drives appear distinct
[03:15] <dirty> any help please?
[03:15] <dirty> the other six drives on the SATA controler show up as SCSI[1-10]
[03:16] <dirty> I tried going into rescue mode and dd if=/dev/zero of=/dev/sd? bs=512 count=4 to wipe them clean
[03:16] <dirty> please help?
[03:16] <bumblehead> is there a template somewhere for building web apps on ubuntu --not a service app but a web app with html/css/javascript?
[03:16] <bumblehead> something that could be installed on ubuntu touch or ubuntu desktop through the store/software center?
[03:17] <reisio> bumblehead: nothing worth using, really
[03:17] <reisio> bumblehead: what kind of "app"?
[03:17] <dirty> under the BIOS, the drives are set to AHCI, they are not set to RAID
[03:18] <dirty> really need to get this rolling
[03:18] <reisio> dirty: what's up?
[03:18] <dirty> reisio: read up and help if possible
[03:18] <bumblehead> reisio: i want to publish a flashcard app for learning japanese hiragana and katakana
[03:18] <dirty> gave the best explanation I could
[03:19] <reisio> bumblehead: not to discourage you, but: even though that's undoubtedly already been done?
[03:19] <bumblehead> i was able to build an nw.js version of the application and i made a snap package with that but it did not run due to sandbaxing/chromium issues
[03:20] <bumblehead> reisio: the existing ubuntu applications aren't very good
[03:20] <bumblehead> the flashcard kata/hira applications lack certain features
[03:20] <reisio> bumblehead: it's hard to make a good app for helping people to achieve things they aren't qualified to do
[03:20] <Xinny> how do I make sure a command runs on a user logging in
[03:21] <Xinny> a specific user
[03:21] <reisio> bumblehead: you can do it pretty easily yourself, though, with help from #css, #javascript &/or #programming-language-of-choice
[03:21] <bumblehead> reisio: i have already made the application
[03:22] <bumblehead> it works well
[03:22] <bumblehead> i just want to know how to package it for ubuntu
[03:22] <dirty> reisio: any idea on how to "unravel" the RAID10 device #126 into the missing block devices /dev/sd[efgh]? I've already dd if=/dev/zero's the drives out on count=4
[03:22] <dirty> there's absolutely nothign on the drives and no hardware or software raid is set
[03:23] <dirty> from the rescue shell
[03:23] <dirty> hope I'm making sense and being clear
[03:24] <dirty> :(
[03:24] <Xinny> Ok so this might be a crazy idea.. What about if I have 4 servers that I want to take offline, and then syndicate a new environment out... Using dropbox to sync the core filesystem.
[03:24] <Xinny> So everything gets wiped and resync'd
[03:24] <Xinny> then bought back online once sync is complete
[03:24] <Xinny> xD
[03:25] <reisio> bumblehead: a web app?
[03:25] <reisio> bumblehead: what does it require? What languages?
[03:25] <RonWhoCares> Is there a way to move the menu off the side to either the top / bottom
[03:25] <RonWhoCares> I am using 16.04
[03:26] <reisio> Xinny: go ahead
[03:26] <reisio> RonWhoCares: yes, try unity-tweak-tool
[03:26] <Xinny> reisio; Am I literally able to clear / as root with the dropbox client running in memory?
[03:26] <RonWhoCares> ok
[03:26] <reisio> dirty: might want to talk to #linux or #ubuntu-server; RAID is a little more than desktop usage
[03:27] <reisio> Xinny: yes
[03:27] <Xinny> Wow, this could be a remarkably simple solution to this problem hahah
[03:27] <reisio> Xinny: anything running will work as long as it's running, and anything it might occasionally run is running
[03:27] <dirty> reisio: alright, I gues that's about as close as I can get from here :) appreciate the acknowledgment
[03:27] <reisio> Xinny: so if an app (stupidly) regularly polls some other app (instead of having daemonized it [where it'd be running already]), that app would fail
[03:28] <reisio> not likely any crucial app, would that be
[03:28] <splitlip> RonWhoCares: open terminal and type > gsettings set com.canonical.Unity.Launcher launcher-position Bottom
[03:28] <reisio> dirty: just a suggestion; I'd help if I knew about it
[03:28] <Xinny> yeah I understand
[03:29] <dirty> reisio: appreciated
[03:29] <reisio> Xinny: makes windows/updates seem designed by infant children, no? :p
[03:30] <RonWhoCares> splitlip: Is there a way for it at the top
[03:30] <Xinny> reisio; ehh, I love the windows server architecture, AD and its sibling tools are really great
[03:30] <bumblehead> reisio: it requires support for html/js/css the same way a browser would
[03:30] <Xinny> linux is more capable, but at the price of having to have every rollout take agessss
[03:30] <splitlip> RonWhoCares: the menu bar is at the top and cannot be moved. the launcher can be to the left or on the bottom
[03:31] <RonWhoCares> ok
[03:31] <RonWhoCares> I hate the left
[03:33] <reisio> Xinny: :p
[03:33] <reisio> bumblehead: then you only need a package that craps out a .html file
[03:34] <reisio> or a wrapper that runs the preferred installation's browser to open a .html file
[03:34] <bumblehead> yes
[03:47] <bigdissaved> is someone free, I have a question
[03:48] <bumblehead> one question about ubuntu touch --should i be looking to build a 'snap' package or a 'click' package?
[03:50] <Bashing-om> bigdissaved: Many are watching . None cam respond 'til the question is asked .
[03:54] <bumblehead> bumblehead: also --should I be using the ubuntu-sdk tool or should i be using a snap yaml file with shell commands?
[03:59] <folder|> what is the recommended AMD driver?
[03:59] <drink_n_drive> Hi folks, can I have some help with Realtek rtl8723be wireless driver? I STFW and tried a few things before coming here. Right now on Ubuntu 14.04.1
[04:00] <Bashing-om> folder|: 16.04 ? It is in the kernel . there is no other at this time .
[04:00] <Magnetz741> What's the proper channel for Ubuntu Server?
[04:00] <folder|> Bashing-om, ah okay.  I just installed 16.04 and wasn't sure if there even any alternatives
[04:00] <Ben64> #ubuntu-server
[04:00] <folder|> will the generic kernel drivers work for gaming?
[04:00] <Magnetz741> Ben64: Thanks
[04:01] <Bashing-om> folder|: AMD is working hard to give us what we asked for . What we have is what we have ,, The work does continue .
[04:02] <bigdissaved> Bashing-om, I have asked it though, 2x above, no response at all...
[04:02] <bigdissaved> I am updating to 16.04 now, going to see if it changes...
[04:02] <Bashing-om> Bogdaniel: Look'n above . See if I know enough .
[04:03] <folder|> Bashing-om, I'm not complaining about what drivers we currently.  I just didn't know what we have now.  It's my first time trying Ubuntu
[04:03] <kevdog> ?
[04:05] <Bashing-om> bigdissaved: Might see if changing the graphic's driver has any effect .. Not that I do know .
[04:06] <kevdog> Hey does anyone know if its possible to partition the /boot partition with zfs -- or simply use zfs for everything
[04:08] <bigdissaved> thanks... I have the intel open source drivers, for 15.14 installed....
[04:08] <bigdissaved> Just noticed the new vrsion, updating atm...
[04:08] <Bashing-om> bigdissaved: What is the hardware ? show in a pastebin site : ' lspci -k | grep -EA2 'VGA|3D' ' .
[04:09] <Bashing-om> !pastebinit | bigdissaved
[04:09] <dani_>  /join #australia
[04:09] <SQL> dani_ uh.... no?
[04:10] <dani_> hey SQL
[04:11] <dani_> australia is invite only
[04:11] <dani_> :(
[04:11] <bigdissaved> 00:02.0 VGA compatible controller: Intel Corporation 4 Series Chipset Integrated                                    Graphics Controller (rev 03)
[04:11] <bigdissaved>         Subsystem: Intel Corporation Device 1003
[04:11] <bigdissaved>         Kernel driver in use: i915
[04:11] <dani_> can you help me SQL ?
[04:11] <bigdissaved> can not install pastebinit, upgrading atm...
[04:12] <SQL> dani_: Perhaps
[04:12] <dani_> any help would be appreciated
[04:13] <bigdissaved> I know this is an older system... it is for my garage... to stram music, look up tech specs... nothing powerfull needed out there.
[04:13] <bumblehead> i've just cloned and the ubuntu snapcraft demo repo
[04:13] <bumblehead> i staged and installed the webchat demo
[04:14] <bumblehead> and `snap list` shows webchaty
[04:14] <SQL> dani_: What do you need?
[04:14] <bumblehead> but when I run `webchat` the terminal shows 'command not found'
[04:14] <dani_> SQL, counselling
[04:14] <dani_> can you help?
[04:15] <SQL> dani_: Yeah, I think you're in the wrong channel. No thanks on the trolling /ignored.
[04:15] <dani_> :(
[04:16] <Bashing-om> bigdissaved: The only driver available is what is installed and loaded .. the i915 driver . Others here will have to advise why the display is bad. Maybe a hint in X's log file ' cat /var/log/Xorg.0.log | pastebinit ' Make sure the driver is good .
[04:18] <bigdissaved> would you know, is the log cleard every boot?
[04:19] <Bashing-om> bigdissaved: Rotated .. yes .. that log is fresh .
[04:20] <ghost_> Hi everyone i need help please, why my wireless stops working when i suspend my laptop?
[04:20] <Bashing-om> bigdissaved: ^ older logs are Xorg.0.log.old >>> Xorg.1.log .
[04:21] <bigdissaved> http://paste.ubuntu.com/17019786/
[04:21] <Bashing-om> nightf0x: reading .
[04:23] <Bashing-om> bigdissaved: We have 2 sets of graphics .. hybrid ? really need to see the pastebin of ' lspci -k | grep -EA2 'VGA|3D' " As I read on on the log file .
[04:27] <bigdissaved> http://paste.ubuntu.com/17019889/
[04:27] <bigdissaved> there is 2 DVI out's on the motherboard... white n blue
[04:28] <kshenoy> What's the difference between the i3 and i3-wm packages in 16.04?
[04:30] <Bashing-om> bigdissaved: Presntly confused .. we have driver " (II) intel(0): [DRI2]   DRI driver: i965 : in the log ,... but above is "  Kernel driver in use: i915 " . Huh ?
[04:31] <Guy1524> hey guys, so when I try to shut down my computer, it doesn't fully shutdown, how do I see where it gets stuck, also it takes a unusually long time to boot
[04:31] <SQL> Guy1524: depends on the OS
[04:31] <Guy1524> ubuntu
[04:31] <Guy1524> lol
[04:32] <Guy1524> here is my dmesg: http://paste.ubuntu.com/17019975/
[04:32] <Bashing-om> bigdissaved: And to add to the cobfusion " 00:02.0 VGA compatible controller: " from lspci outpur .. thje log file shows another port " (--) PCI: (0:0:2:1) " Any idea of what this is ?
[04:33] <bigdissaved> nope, it is why I am here
[04:33] <Xinny> hey guys
[04:33] <pvsharov> hi
[04:34] <Xinny> if I have two ubuntu desktop 16.whatever installs, one running headless aka no local video
[04:34] <Xinny> how can I connect my second headed as a client to that x server
[04:34] <Xinny> assuming a local network connection/vpn
[04:34] <bigdissaved> http://paste.ubuntu.com/17020026/
[04:34] <pvsharov> Xinny: via ssh -y
[04:35] <Xinny> oh really? that simple eh
[04:35] <Guy1524> Xinny: using which X server?
[04:35] <Bashing-om> bigdissaved: Not savvy on Intel, but be nice to see what the system sees for the hardware : pastebin ' sudo lshw -C display ' See what we can make of it .
[04:35] <Guy1524> ssh -y will use the client's x server
[04:35] <Xinny> Guy1524; well, im lazy so ive just added ubuntu-desktop to ubuntu-server
[04:35] <Xinny> on both
[04:36] <Guy1524> ok, just so you know, it uses the client's graphics card to render
[04:36] <bigdissaved> best part of the comp... it was Fre!
[04:36] <Xinny> Guy1524; thats perfect
[04:36] <Xinny> thats what I want
[04:36] <Guy1524> oh ok, cool
[04:36] <Xinny> so I dont need to reconfigure anything? just ssh -y in ?
[04:37] <Guy1524> ya
[04:37] <Guy1524> ssh -y in and launch the application
[04:37] <bigdissaved> http://paste.ubuntu.com/17020064/
[04:37] <Xinny> Ill probably atleast need to stop x or whatever starting on the headless one eh
[04:37] <kevdog> I think its ssh -YC right -- for compression?
[04:37] <Xinny> I dont want compression
[04:37] <Guy1524> x doesn't start unless a display is plugged in
[04:37] <Guy1524> you dont need to worry about that
[04:37] <Guy1524> there will be no compression
[04:37] <Xinny> I have gigabit fibre connections
[04:38] <Xinny> sweet
[04:38] <Guy1524> afaik atleast
[04:38] <Bashing-om> bigdissaved: Well that do ^ shed some light " 00:02.0 VGA compatible controller: ;; 00:02.1 Display controller: Intel Corporation 4 Series Chipset Integrated Graphics Controller" . Bit I do not know enought about Intel to say . Others will have to jump in here .
[04:38] <Xinny> thhis seems too easy to be true
[04:38] <kevdog> Is there a downside to using C flag?
[04:38] <Guy1524> ya, the gl calls go straight to the client
[04:38] <Xinny> what do I run to start the graphics manager stuff for ubuntu-desktop?
[04:38] <Guy1524> on client or server?
[04:38] <Xinny> both lol
[04:39] <kevdog> Are you using a display manager?
[04:39] <Guy1524> on server, you don't need to start anything like that I think
[04:39] <Xinny> kevdog; yeah whatever ubuntu-desktop uses :P:P
[04:39] <Guy1524> on the client just make sure you have a display manager like lightdm and a desktop environment like unity
[04:39] <Xinny> Guy1524; if I ssh in, its going to be a terminal unless I start something
[04:39] <kevdog> I think lightdm is the display manager on the default ubuntu install
[04:39] <Guy1524> both should come with ubuntu-desktop
[04:40] <Xinny> so its just 'unity' or?
[04:40] <Guy1524> Xinny: ya, then when you launch the app the window will open
[04:40] <Guy1524> no, unity is already installed
[04:40] <Xinny> installed yes, but it shouldnt start by default
[04:40] <Guy1524> its already started
[04:40] <Xinny> im not saying anything crazy here am I
[04:40] <Xinny> lol
[04:40] <Guy1524> you are using it right now
[04:40] <kevdog> For the client -- you aren't going to get a desktop -- you'll just start graphics application
[04:40] <Xinny> lol no im using windows right now
[04:40] <Xinny> xD
[04:40] <Guy1524> oh lol didn't know that
[04:41] <Guy1524> windows 10 linux subsystem?
[04:41] <Xinny> And because it started as a ubuntu-server install, it shouldnt open unity by default
[04:41] <Guy1524> or putty
[04:41] <Xinny> Putty
[04:41] <Xinny> I putty into my vps and want a real gui
[04:41] <kevdog> You need an X-server running on the client -- you know that right
[04:41] <Guy1524> idk how to do X forwarding in putty sorry
[04:41] <Xinny> kevdog; yeah its X to X
[04:41] <Xinny> obviously
[04:41] <Bashing-om> bigdissaved: Looks to me like you have 2 display ports .. both Intel ... Change the display to this other port ??
[04:42] <kevdog> Yea - but what program do you have on the windows client for the xserver?
[04:42] <estr_> hello
[04:42] <pvsharov> hi
[04:42] <Xinny> vmware running the same exact image
[04:42] <estr_> only speak eng.?
[04:42] <bigdissaved> yes 2 2 ports, have an adapter for dvi to rgb... only works on one port
[04:42] <bigdissaved> 1 blue 1 white
[04:43] <pvsharov> estr_: yeh.
[04:43] <kevdog> Oh - I didn't know you were running Ubuntu desktop through a VM on a Windows host -- sorry
[04:43] <Xinny> heheh its ok its convoluted I know
[04:43] <estr_> :(   i a, from Ukraine
[04:43] <kevdog> So if running Ubuntu client in a VM, why do you need putty
[04:43] <pvsharov> estr_: Ну, есть русский канал
[04:43] <kevdog> putty is for windows
[04:44] <pvsharov> estr_: #ubuntu-ru
[04:44] <Bashing-om> bigdissaved: Ouch .. As apters many times do not pass all the info or incorrect info from the display to the card . In this case . I do not know what to advise .
[04:44] <Xinny> I dont neeeeed putty, but both should still be accessible via putty
[04:44] <estr_> thx
[04:44] <Xinny> I will only launch the vm to make system changes, and I just want a tty set up to the possibly remote server for live changes
[04:44] <estr_> o, свои
[04:45] <Xinny> I could use vnc
[04:45] <Guy1524> Xinny: have you seen this: http://superuser.com/questions/299158/how-to-make-putty-do-the-equivalent-of-ssh-x
[04:45] <Xinny> but I hate vnc
[04:45] <bigdissaved> ok, I might fight with the bios settings... but it looks like the conflist is with the two ports?
[04:45] <Guy1524> apparently there is an x forwarding option in putty
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[04:45] <pvsharov> estr_: go to russian channel.
[04:46] <pvsharov> estr_: i try to help you there
[04:46] <kevdog> Dont use VNC.
[04:46] <Guy1524> ya, vnc is not necessary here
[04:47] <kevdog> Here is a link for putty x forwarding and Xming if you need an X server on windows:
[04:47] <kevdog> https://wiki.utdallas.edu/wiki/display/FAQ/X11+Forwarding+using+Xming+and+PuTTY
[04:47] <Xinny> that could be nice, then I could just connect to both the local dev vm AND the remote vm that way
[04:48] <Xinny> thanks Guy1524 and kevdog
[04:48] <Guy1524> np
[04:49] <kevdog> Honestly -- as nice as x forwarding seems,  just use ssh with combination of screen or something .. I've always found that to be the most low tech most reliable way, particularly if you can use vi or nano or emacs
[04:49] <Xinny> oh yeah nah I probably will 99% of the time
[04:50] <Xinny> I just want this available too
[04:50] <Xinny> who knows what I might have to do on the road
[04:50] <kevdog> Yea no problem
[04:51] <Xinny> plus this vps is $10 a year hahah, I kind of just want to see how far I can push it >:D
[04:53] <Guy1524> should I post my question again since its been awhile
[04:54] <Bashing-om> bigdissaved: No, there is no conflict . display port 2 is unclaimed, so not in use . I would more tend to think it is that the adapter is not passing the info between correctly .
[04:56] <Guy1524> Here it is: When I try to shut down my computer, it doesn't fully shutdown, how do I see where it gets stuck, also it takes a unusually long time to boot.  Here is my dmesg: http://paste.ubuntu.com/17019975/
[04:56] <bigdissaved> ok
[04:56] <bigdissaved> still installing upgrade updates
[04:59] <dacresni> join #lgc-weekly
[05:04] <bigdissaved> with the chat about x forwarding.... can you do it wuth a KDE session? or is it just small graphical apps?
[05:10] <authentic> is irssi is an example of a foreground process?
[05:13] <irked> Anybody know why it takes almost 2 minutes for a website to load in a fresh install Lubuntu 16.04 LTS and freezes when 2 tabs are open?
[05:14] <bumblehead> every few once a month or so i try to turn my webapp into an ubuntu touch app and i always hit a dead end :(
[05:15] <bumblehead> despite the marketing which says otherwise it is difficult to build a webapp for ut
[05:15] <Bashing-om> irked: Low on ram ? hitting swap hard .. or a very small swap ?
[05:17] <irked> Bashing-om: I've got 1GB. How do I check swap? Thx.
[05:18] <jamesd> top?
[05:18] <jamesd> free?
[05:19] <Bashing-om> irked: What returns from 'free'; with 2 tabs open . Awap uage will be shown from 'free' .
[05:19] <irked> Bashing-om: I had a laptop w/half the memory & w/Lubuntu 14.04 and never had this issue.
[05:20] <bigdissaved> dang...... just finished upgrade.... login says in red, "system is booting up. See pam_nologin(8)" above the passward box.... and I can not log in... guest session is useless... back to log in...
[05:21] <irked> Bashing-om: I don't understand. How do I check?
[05:21] <Bashing-om> irked: Might also run 'top' and see if there is a memory hog .
[05:22] <irked> Bashing-om: O.K. I ran Top, never have before, what do I look for?
[05:22] <Bashing-om> irked: My result of 'free' " Swap:         7996          0       7996 . What is, what is used ... and waht is available in swap . In my case I am not touching it .
[05:24] <razor79> hi there. is anyone experiencing problems with 16.04 + plasma 5 after yesterday updates? i have a black screen + segfault for sddm. intel video
[05:25] <Bashing-om> irked: In 'top' the load average at the top of the display .. and in the display it's self the %mem . anything BIG ?
[05:27] <OerHeks> irked, what websitestakes that long to load .. and wired network or wireless?
[05:28] <OerHeks> much unclear, impossible to answer
[05:29] <irked> Bashing-om: Sorry, my computer froze for abt 1 minute, just unfroze.
[05:30] <irked> OerHeks: when i open gmail, takes long. I go into slow connection w/o javascript. I'm able to open emails lightening fast.
[05:31] <irked> OerHeks: when I open 2 tabs on twitter, takes abt 2 minutes to load and sometime it freezes.
[05:31] <OerHeks> irked, sounds like a light system, single core?
[05:33] <irked> Bashing-om: i got 2 tabs open in terminal and i have 2 click the tab i want several times b4 it open that tab.
[05:33] <irked> OerHeks: how do i check if single core?
[05:34] <OerHeks> open terminal: lscpu #this shows cpu specs
[05:36] <bigdissaved> has anyone done a network install, hosted from a winblos server?
[05:37] <irked> OerHeks: what line do i look for, for cores?
[05:38] <irked> Bashing-om: Had to close the top tab, pc keep freezing up.
[05:38] <OerHeks> yes, cpu's
[05:41] <irked> OerHeks: I put info on this link:  http://codepad.org/XZaPGSIq
[05:42] <Bashing-om> irked: Sounds like a memory issue . As to the root cause, yet to be determined .
[05:43] <OerHeks> single core, with ht .. not that strong cpu
[05:43] <irked> Bashing-om: Is there a memory test I can do?
[05:43] <OerHeks> intel p4 .. what do you expect?
[05:44] <irked> OerHeks: fyi this pc had XP.
[05:45] <irked> OerHeks: Odd, b/c I had Lubuntu 14.04 on a laptop w/half the memory and it was faster than this desktop w/more memory.
[05:49] <irked> Bashing-om: Will it be best if I install Lubuntu 14.04 LTS on this desktop?
[05:53] <irked> OerHeks: So better to buy more memory or install Lubuntu 14.04 LTS?
[05:55] <irked> I think my pc is frozen, again.
[05:55] <Xinny> hey I used apt-get on a package I didnt want, but it was a meta package like ubuntu-desktop
[05:55] <drama> does p4 support PAE?
[05:55] <Xinny> how do I cleanly remove that and its dependencies if not used elsewhere
[05:57] <somsip> drama: cat /proc/cpuinfo to get capabilities of your chop
[05:57] <somsip> *chip
[05:58] <bigdissaved> Bashing-om: thanks for your help.... comp is screwed up after upgrade... doing a fresh install, hope it helps/fixes it
[05:59] <Bashing-om> drama irked : Most P4's do support pae.. But I do not see yet that this one does .
[05:59] <drama> somsip, ty... that was for irked http://askubuntu.com/questions/475097/can-i-install-ubuntu-14-04-on-intel-p4-3gb-ddr3-ram
[06:00] <somsip> drama: ah - k
[06:00] <drama> intel made a bunch of different cpu's didn't they
[06:00] <Bashing-om> bigdissaved: :) .. that does, unfortunately happen .. generally a carry over from problems before the upgrade .
[06:00] <bigdissaved> it was pam, not intels fault
[06:01] <bigdissaved> I do like fresh installls vs upgrade anyway
[06:02] <Bashing-om> bigdissaved: LTS install, I always start fresh and clean .
[06:02] <x_> in most cases fresh install take 5-10 min which is much faster then upgrade for me
[06:02] <bigdissaved> what is lst again, and that is what I have on my usb install drive atm
[06:03] <bigdissaved> lts*
[06:03] <Bashing-om> bigdissaved: LTS -- Long Term Support ( 5 years ) .
[06:04] <bigdissaved> :)
[06:07] <razor79> bump ->  is anyone experiencing problems with 16.04 + plasma 5 after yesterday updates? i have a black screen + segfault for sddm. intel video
[06:07] <razor79> thank you
[06:07] <bigdissaved> installing16.04 fresh now, intel graphics now... I will let you know
[06:08] <bigdissaved> what intel chip?
[06:09] <razor79> bigdissaved: intel hd 3000 (int)
[06:09] <bigdissaved> ok, i915 here
[06:09] <Bashing-om> bigdissaved: How far along are you on the new install ? Can I wait up long nuf to see if the display is good in the new install ?
[06:09] <bigdissaved> almost done, installing 3rd party apps
[06:10] <bigdissaved> 80%?
[06:10] <irked> What else is odd is that this pc had dual boot XP/Ubuntu 14.04 LTS and it was faster than single boot w/Lubuntu 16.04 LTS. *sigh
[06:10] <bigdissaved> restarting now
[06:10] <razor79> bigdissaved: that's right. but perhaps livecds will not has the latest drivers (which possibly are broken). i found only one similar complaints so far - http://ubuntuforums.org/showthread.php?t=2326783
[06:11] <bigdissaved> I will update the second I get to the desktop
[06:11] <Bashing-om> irked: What is going to hurt ,, yours is a 32 bit processor .. and getting toggh to find support for 32 bit software .
[06:12]  * bigdissaved flashes back to Weird Al's "All about the Pentum" song..
[06:13] <OerHeks> 18.04 lts will run slower i guess ..
[06:13]  * bigdissaved watches it on youtube
[06:14] <irwiss> https://youtu.be/qpMvS1Q1sos
[06:15] <irked> Bashing-om: So either install Lubuntu 14.04 LTS or get more ram to use Lubuntu 16.04 LTS? Is that correct?
[06:18] <Bashing-om> irked: You are looking at lubuntu - forcepae : https://help.ubuntu.com/community/PAE ; https://bugs.launchpad.net/ubuntu/+source/linux/+bug/1307105 .
[06:19] <bigdissaved> Bashing-om: at desktop now, looking good, so far
[06:21] <bigdissaved> in sudovi is it user   ALL=(ALL:NOPWD) ALL ?
[06:22] <irked> ubottu: What does that mean? The solution Bashing-om gave me won't work?
[06:22] <Bashing-om> bigdissaved: I will rest the easier knowing you are good .
[06:22] <irked> ubottu: Well!
[06:23] <bigdissaved> :)
[06:24] <irked> Bashing-om: So I guess I need to find the best Linux OS for my hardware? Anything close to Lubuntu 16.04 LTS?
[06:25] <OerHeks> irked, you could go back to 14.04 to see if that works better for you (hardware)
[06:27] <irked> OerHeks: That's the same conclusion I'm realizing. DRATS!
[06:28] <bigdissaved> is there a defult root passward?
[06:29] <OerHeks> bigdissaved, no
[06:29] <OerHeks> !root
[06:30] <bigdissaved> yes... unless you edit the sudo config file, and there is a syntex error... can not get to root....
[06:30] <Ghcyjtcyjfcjyfx> How good is ubuntu on thinkpads
[06:31] <HappyHobo> Hi.
[06:31] <Ghcyjtcyjfcjyfx> Hey
[06:31] <Ghcyjtcyjfcjyfx> How good is ubuntu on thinkpads
[06:31] <HappyHobo> FreeWhiz was trying to help me with my sound on xubuntu?
[06:31] <irked> OerHeks: Is there something I missed when reading the minimum specs for Lubuntu 16.04 LTS? All I saw min 512MB.
[06:31] <Ghcyjtcyjfcjyfx> How good is ubuntu on thinkpads
[06:32] <HappyHobo> can anybody help me
[06:32] <Bashing-om> irked: Found the lonk I was hunting : http://ubuntuforums.org/showthread.php?t=2263647 woll help you a bunch .
[06:32] <OerHeks> irked, so 16.04 is heavier than 14.04 .. i cannot make it better.
[06:32] <OerHeks> Ghcyjtcyjfcjyfx, there are many thinkpads
[06:33] <Ghcyjtcyjfcjyfx> Im getting a thinkpad 13
[06:33] <irked> Bashing-om: thx! Will go check it out.
[06:33] <xinud> Ghcyjtcyjfcjyfx, https://www.google.be/?gws_rd=ssl#q=ubuntu+ont+thinkpad
[06:34] <HappyHobo> I've used puvocontrol and that did nothing, I tried alsamixer, I even dpkg-reconfigure pulsaudio and still no sound.
[06:34] <Ghcyjtcyjfcjyfx> Thanka
[06:34] <irked> OerHeks: If you throw in flowers and chocolate, it might! ;)
[06:35] <HappyHobo> Can anyone help me?
[06:36] <irked> Bashing-om: Just making sure, just ignore your 2 previous links? ==>You are looking at lubuntu - forcepae : https://help.ubuntu.com/community/PAE ;
[06:37] <irked> Bashing-om: and ==>https://bugs.launchpad.net/ubuntu/+source/linux/+bug/1307105?
[06:38] <Bashing-om> irked: As far as I know, your CPU us not PAE capable . so the links provided will help and guide .
[06:39] <HappyHobo> Bashing-om:  can you help me?
[06:39] <irked> Bashing-om: Oh, o.k. Will check out the links then. Thanks again.
[06:39] <Bashing-om> HappyHobo: No, sorry .. I have no experience with sound .
[06:41] <Bashing-om> irked: Nother thought. as no PAE, bet no SSE2 .. and therefore no flash capable .
[06:41] <irked> OerHeks: Thanks for your help!As far as I know, your CPU us not PAE capable . so the links provided will help and guide .
[06:43] <irked> Bashing-om: OH, O.K. Don't know what PAE or SSE2 mean but will google. :)
[06:43] <bigdissaved> Q... what is the best way to do vnc? on same network..
[06:44] <irked> OerHeks: Disregard after !. Dumb cut and paste. lol!
[06:47] <irked> Thanks again Bashing-om and OerHeks. Signing out.
[06:51] <razor79> bigdissaved: i am using remina + tightvnc on win machines
[06:53] <bigdissaved> bah.... how do I remove readonly on a file?
[06:54] <razor79> bigdissaved: on any file?
[06:54] <Ben64> chmod u+r file
[06:54] <razor79> bigdissaved: chmod +w xxx
[06:54] <Ben64> whoops ^ that
[06:55] <Bashing-om> bigdissaved: Maybe not a good idae to change permissions if this is a system file .
[06:56] <Tegu> I have been using ubuntu 14.04 (with i3 mostly but tried XFCE as well) on an Athlon XP just fine. I guess it's similar or worse than the pentium 4 mentioned here. haven't tried 16.04, it might be slower..
[06:58] <bigdissaved> Bashing-om: the sudoers config file.... had : instead of )    and no sudo.... and booted on life stick..
[06:58] <bigdissaved> is it +r or -w for read only back?
[06:59] <OerHeks> a lot of housefires start with such old hardware :-(
[06:59] <deathbyMetaL> hi
[06:59] <Ben64> bigdissaved: you should not be editing sudoers manually
[07:00] <deathbyMetaL> what kernel version does 16.04 come with?
[07:00] <bigdissaved> just wanted nopasswd
[07:00] <Bashing-om> bigdissaved: it be a " -r " .
[07:00] <OerHeks> deathbyMetaL, 4.4 >> https://wiki.ubuntu.com/XenialXerus/ReleaseNotes
[07:01] <bigdissaved> thanks
[07:01] <bigdissaved> been a looong time from the last time I played with the linux console... rusty
[07:03] <deathbyMetaL> thanks
[07:10] <Mao> how to connect to linux mint help ?
[07:11] <OerHeks> !mint
[07:11] <Mao> yes but how i do that ?
[07:13] <OerHeks> Mao,  i don't know, it seems to be forbidden http://irc.spotchat.org/
[07:13] <bigdissaved> on a fresh install, what base packages do you install?
[07:13] <bigdissaved> kinda a general question
[07:14] <bazhang> the restricted-extras, that bring in the various music and video support bigdissaved
[07:15] <bigdissaved> like installing the 3rd parties optin in the installer? or is there more in that one?
[07:15] <bazhang> bigdissaved, the partner repo?
[07:16] <bazhang> bigdissaved, that has skype, for example
[07:16] <bazhang> !manual | bigdissaved have a read
[07:17] <OerHeks> tons of articles 'todo after install' https://www.google.nl/search?q=ubuntu+16.04+to+do+after+install
[07:19] <bigdissaved> thank you
[07:31] <Mao> i know  that is wrong channel but i can not connect to the right one may i ask for help here ? my problem is that i did purge kde  and i try to boot to mate but i am stack forever on splash screen with logo how i can open command line here just after boot ?
[07:32] <Bashing-om> Mao: What release are you attempting to boot ?
[07:33] <Mao> mate LM.17.3
[07:34] <OerHeks> adding a desktop is no problem, removing one give vary results
[07:34] <Mao> :)
[07:34] <OerHeks> ctrl alt F2, login, and reinstall the mate desktop
[07:34] <auronandace> Mao: this channel doesn't support mint
[07:34] <Bashing-om> Mao: Mint .. Has their own support channel . :)
[07:34] <Mao> yes but is blocked
[07:35] <HappyHobo> What does the /opt directory have?
[07:35] <auronandace> Mao: that doesn't make this mint support
[07:35] <Mao> in which point i must press the ctrl+alt+F2 ?
[07:35] <Mao> while booting ?
[07:36] <auronandace> HappyHobo: by default the /opt directory is empty
[07:36] <Mao> no it doesn't but i kindly ask if for help sinse i can not connect anywhere alse
[07:36] <OerHeks> HappyHobo, 3th party software happen to use /opt/ , also a good place to store software if you have no clue where to put it.
[07:38] <Mao> OerHeks: in what point  i have to do the ctrl+alt+f2 ? while booting ?
[07:38] <auronandace> Mao: try ##linux instead, this channel is only for official ubuntu distributions
[07:38] <Mao> ##linux
[07:38] <HappyHobo> auronandace:  I need sound advice.
[07:39] <auronandace> HappyHobo: then i'm probably not of much help sorry, i haven't had any sound problems in years
[07:40] <HappyHobo> when I used the32 bit I didn't have this issue.
[07:45] <Bonn333> Mao: /join #linux
[08:25] <grhm2> anyone played world of tanks on ubuntu?
[08:25] <TheSilentLink> Does anyone know if the amd drivers are supported on lubuntu 16.04?
[08:35] <OerHeks> TheSilentLink, the amdgu and radeon open drivers are supported, not the closed binairy blob
[08:39] <Dead_Office> Hi , I'm locked out of sudoer . When I do "sudo adduser me sudo" I get "is not in the sudoers file.  This incident will be reported." Duh!! . When I try to su as root I get "Authentication failure" although that I didn't change my password
[08:42] <Dead_Office> Dead_Office, try https://help.ubuntu.com/community/LiveCdRecovery
[08:42] <Dead_Office> Dead_Office, thanks bye bye lol
[08:43] <kristian_on_linu> the hell ... did Unity just update itself?
[08:43] <kristian_on_linu> on 14.04
[08:44] <moza> Hello, I am trying to fix my sound properly, after having build a new motherboard with my old harddrives that run Ubuntu 14.04. More info here : http://www.alsa-project.org/db/?f=02824db0b63ad31a4202605366801cdac027d2e1
[08:44] <moza> Is there a thing to try first?
[08:45] <ether8unny> what sound card? onboard?
[08:46] <moza> Yes, i don't have any added sound card than the motherboard's
[08:46] <ether8unny> ok do you want jack or anything aside from Alsa or pulse?
[08:47] <rdz> hey all. i acknowledge you can address other hosts on the local network by their name when using hostname.local  . can i configure my machine to automatically try hostname.local when i ping hostname (without .local suffix)=
[08:47] <rdz> ?
[08:47] <hansheiri> dear all. I've upgraded to win10 (dualboot with 14 lts). When booting up now, I always end u in the grub rescue mode. Can I fix this problem through the "grub rescue mode" or should I try to re-install grub via live CD?
[08:47] <moza> I just would like my speakers to get any kind of sound ether8unny ... They are plugged in in my motherboard's jack on the back for now
[08:47] <rdz> /etc/resolv.conf already has a line "search local", but ti doesn't seem to help
[08:50] <ubuntu> ah.. hello
[08:51] <Guest483> anyone able to help with a minor issue?
[08:54] <Guest483> so I was told to download ubuntu as I have a currupt file issue - Windows can't delete it and I was told Linux can - however after booting into the USB drive, it recognises my main drive, but not my second drive - and that is where the corrupt file is. Any ideas?
[08:59] <hansheiri> can someone help me with reinstalling grub after win10 upgrade?
[09:03] <sherlock_> hi
[09:07] <Fnerd> #ubuntu-de
[09:07] <Fnerd> upps
[09:07] <vof> maybe this helps hansheiri  http://askubuntu.com/questions/760102/ubuntu-16-04-error-installing-grub
[09:18] <hansheiri> vof: thx, the install wizzard is throwing errors, but I managed to get to the disk partitioning. Apperently I'm having gazillions of partitions and I'm unsure where I should installed grub into :-/
[09:18] <marklyford> Hi Folks, new Ubuntu user so be nice to me :) Im looking to get something developed and wonder if anyone could people me in the right direct of best channel to use ?
[09:19] <vof> sorry hansheiri not running 16.04 myself
[09:21] <hansheiri> vof: thx anyway
[09:21] <igoryonya> Then, configure automatic update in the way, so that it will retry on failed downloads automatically, after a certain while. By that time the first os, that was already was downloading that file already has placed it to the archives directory and it will just install on the second retry.
[09:21] <igoryonya> Hello, I want to make a shared /var/cache/apt/archives folder. I.e. it would be a mounted network disk, available by all Ubuntus on the LAN. I am wondering, maybe there is some kind of fuse file system, that will watch over this disk, so it will make sure that while a file is in partial directory, wait the other system will not be able to download the same file and continue with the next.
[09:22] <igoryonya> Then, configure automatic update in the way, so that it will retry on failed downloads automatically, after a certain while. By that time the first os, that was already was downloading that file already has placed it to the archives directory and it will just install on the second retry.
[09:23] <Netmage> Does anyone know a tool where I can set up the time my kid can use ubuntu. After this time the system should shutdown or locked or something else
[09:26] <somedude> hello?
[09:26] <somedude> anyone here?
[09:26] <marklyford> I'm here , for what its worth :0
[09:27] <lalalaaa> Hi! Does anybody know why I can't install packages (upgrade Ruby) on Ubuntu 13.10 Saucy? https://gist.github.com/anonymous/4a643a35e716ead816904cf28559513b
[09:27] <somedude> so you guys talk about ubuntu here?
[09:27] <splitlip> Netmage: timekpr still in development?
[09:28] <bosyi> hello. is it possible o install ubuntu 16.04 without installing bootloader?
[09:29] <EriC^^> lalalaaa: saucy is eol
[09:29] <EriC^^> !eol
[09:29] <bosyi> just choose sda5 instead of sda?
[09:29] <EriC^^> bosyi: what's your real issue?
[09:29] <EriC^^> or concern
[09:31] <bosyi> EriC^^, i have arch. i want ubuntu in dual boot, but leave arch (systemd-boot) as bootloader
[09:31] <lalalaaa> thanks EriC^^
[09:31] <EriC^^> lalalaaa: no problem
[09:31] <EriC^^> bosyi: is it uefi?
[09:32] <Netmage> The real issue is that my son is playing offline or watching videos. He is 8 years and the self control is not working
[09:32] <bosyi> EriC^^, yes
[09:32] <EriC^^> bosyi: after installing ubuntu, use efibootmgr to set arch first
[09:33] <Tehdastehdas> I hate this bug: https://bugs.launchpad.net/ubuntu/+source/compiz/+bug/1558537
[09:33] <bosyi> what about install process. where to install bootloader?
[09:34] <EriC^^> leave it /dev/sda
[09:37] <bosyi> i feel i'm hit grub bug
[09:40] <EriC^^> bosyi: why do you say that?
[10:04] <onetwooz> hi
[10:04] <sivang> hi all, so wht's that deal with that issue booting into Ubuntu and not being in the sudo group anymore for my main user?..
[10:06] <sivang> this post on the forums unfortunately does not seem to come up with a workaround, http://askubuntu.com/questions/275920/why-am-i-suddenly-not-a-sudoer-anymore
[10:06] <boobob> herro, i just did a fresh install of ubuntu and my raid is /home. now that i've mounted it i dont get bash colors anymore : /
[10:16] <JohnnyL> what's good to back dvds to a playable format under Ubuntu?
[10:23] <emin> Selamun Aleyküm
[10:24] <emin> Abiler bir hata alıyorum yardımcı olabilir misiniz?
[10:28] <steven> morning, is there a clean way / hook to execute custom scripts on system halt/reboot?
[10:29] <emin> hi
[10:29] <emin> friends
[10:29] <MonkeyDust> !tr
[10:29] <steven> he just left :)
[10:35] <iman1366> hi every body!!
[10:35] <iman1366> can I ask my questions here?
[10:36] <MonkeyDust> iman1366  let's hear it, in one line
[10:37] <iman1366> I had win on my personal laptop. my laptop was lenovo thinkpad e540. now I have migrate to ubuntu 16. but right click is disabled for me!!!
[10:41] <MonkeyDust> iman1366  are you now in ubuntu?
[10:41] <iman1366> غثس
[10:41] <iman1366> yes.
[10:41] <iman1366> I am using ubuntu.
[10:41] <MonkeyDust> iman1366  and is it a wireless mouse?
[10:42] <iman1366> No. It is just lenovo touch pad right click!!
[10:42] <MonkeyDust> iman1366  it's not even a mouse?
[10:43] <iman1366> If it was a mouse then I will find its driver for linux.
[10:43] <iman1366> but it is not.
[11:02] <trudko> Hi everyone, how to find out if my chromium does use hardware accelaration on youtube? I did turn it on , but chrome still takes up to to 40 percent of CPU and I would expect it to take much less for simple youtube video
[11:03] <trudko> I am running this on laptop with integrated GPU (i5 4300U)
[11:07] <MonkeyDust> trudko  is this useful https://www.youtube.com/html5
[11:09] <kristian_on_linu> anybody else got an unexpected Unity update today?
[11:10] <trudko> MonkeyDust: well ti says that browser supports HTMLVideoElement H.264 WebM VP8 Media Source Extensions MSE & H.264 MSE & WebM VP9
[11:11] <alcasa> exit
[11:11] <givonne> hello
[11:11] <MonkeyDust> trudko  you can enable it, scroll down
[11:12] <trudko> MonkeyDust: enable what?
[11:12] <MonkeyDust> trudko  yiu can mark 'The HTML5 player is currently used when possible.'
[11:13] <trudko> I do have it and the HTML 5 is used that is not my problem, problem is that my CPU goes high when watching simple video on youtue
[11:14] <givonne> can anyone help with installing 14.04 on Virtual box?
[11:14] <explosive> givonne: what's the problem
[11:15] <givonne> i've tried installing it a few times.  the install goes mostly correct.  but, when I reboot at the end of the install, it just keeps coming back and asking for my pswd.
[11:17] <givonne> there is an error message when i start the install.  don't have it exact.  something like "repl ... not valid.  use 0x...address instead."  i can't do much but hit enter and continue.
[11:17] <givonne> can anyone help with a windows 10 / linux dual boot?
[11:22] <Neural_Rev> hello
[11:22] <dury> hi there channel :-)
[11:26] <givonne> newbie to irc here.  if there are 1856 participants, how come i see almost no conversation?
[11:27] <MonkeyDust> givonne  this is a support channel, no conversation channel
[11:27] <incog> http://www.dailymail.co.uk/news/article-3625316/Google-removes-racist-Chrome-extension-used-neo-Nazis-target-Jewish-people-online.html
[11:27] <MonkeyDust> givonne  for nice conversation, type   /j #ubuntu-offtopic
[11:28] <MonkeyDust> incog  wrong channel
[11:28] <vof> MonkeyDust daily fail too ;p
[11:29] <givonne> monkeydust i don't even see conversations about support.  i was hoping to learn something for discussions about troubleshooting
[11:32] <alessandro_1979> Hi to Everybody!
[11:32] <exLege> hi
[11:39] <alessandro_1979> just joined mirc, now playing with the settings
[11:39] <Matumaros> Hi, I'm about to install Ubuntu GNOME. I have 2 harddrives of the same size and so I was wondering, what is the best way to incorporate the second harddrive?
[11:40] <Matumaros> Do I just mount it under /video or something like that?
[11:43] <MonkeyDust> Matumaros  is this useful https://help.ubuntu.com/community/Installation/SoftwareRAID
[11:45] <Matumaros> MonkeyDust: I was just at the step to format the drives and apparently it formated both to look like one (1TB)
[11:45] <MonkeyDust> Matumaros  or if you want to use the second harddrive for data storage only, you can simply click it in the file manager
[11:47] <Matumaros> MonkeyDust: Thank you
[11:48] <amaroq> haro
[11:48] <amaroq> I'm trying to suss out how one would go about creating a forum/site ?
[11:49] <amaroq> Would I want to create a server and download the phpbb software?
[11:49] <Matumaros> amaroq: there are many websites online in which you can create a site/forum for free
[11:49] <amaroq> Would I need to download the Ubuntu-server edition or can I simply download and add whatever default packages come with the server edition necessary to setup phpbb forum to ubuntu-os ?
[11:50] <Matumaros> as long as you don't mind that you don't have a fully custom name for your url
[11:50] <amaroq> Matumaros, oh, ok. any you could care to mention?
[11:50] <amaroq> phpbb is open-source, so, I thought to go that route
[11:51] <Matumaros> amaroq: Wait, I didn't go on such websites for a long time
[11:51] <TheSilentLink> hello how do I change the name of windows in the grub loader? cause it is called windows recovery but still boots windows 10
[11:51] <Matumaros> amaroq: http://top5-websitebuilders.com/create-a-website-for-free/?gclid=CjwKEAjwm8-6BRDgnb-Dk96UmRASJADbMycYq8JYzbgU_jMUUXpSASutDazTIxgfKtVS06uIi4R6WhoCfIHw_wcB
[11:52] <amaroq> Regarding server: do I need to download the server-edition and re-install or can I download the missing packages from the server edition to my existing installation?
[11:52] <Matumaros> amaroq: oh, so you already have a server?
[11:53] <amaroq> Matumaros, no, not yet. I was asking whether I can download missing packages to make my os like a server, or do i need to reinstall the server edition?
[11:53] <amaroq> Matumaros, that link is for free websites. Does that include forum software?
[11:54] <Matumaros> amaroq: I see, well, if you don't know much about all this stuff then I would recommend you to do it over a provider and not on your own machine
[11:54] <Matumaros> I don't really know myself how to turn Ubuntu into a server myself
[11:54] <Matumaros> yes, some offer a forum builder, but I have to look at their individual pages
[11:58] <MonkeyDust> amaroq  you can download the ubuntu-server installer, or you can use tasksel to install the programs you want/need
[11:59] <Matumaros> A few minutes ago it finalized the installation process, went black, removed the installation medium and now it says "[**     ] A start job is running or Ubuntu live CD installer (1min 5s / no limit)"
[11:59] <Matumaros> is that supposed to take so long?
[11:59] <amaroq> MonkeyDust, taskell ?
[11:59] <amaroq> tasksel
[12:00] <MonkeyDust> !info tasksel
[12:00] <MonkeyDust> great
[12:00] <Matumaros> *"for" not "or"
[12:01] <ioria> !info tasksel^
[12:01] <exSnake> what's the main difference between NUMA and UMA? is a modern PC NUMA?
[12:02] <TheSilentLink> hello how do I change the name of windows in the grub loader? cause it is called windows recovery but still boots windows 10?
[12:02] <MonkeyDust> exSnake  http://www.dpreview.com/forums/post/17577946
[12:02] <Fabou_> hi everyone. I use ubuntu 16 on a macbook pro. I have a D-link NAS DNS-320 and I don't manage to use it on ubuntu (no problem with windows on another PC)
[12:02] <MonkeyDust> exSnake  just noticed, that post dates from 2006
[12:03] <explosive> TheSilentLink: that's a bit difficult, you can disable os_prober and make a custom entry for windows
[12:03] <exSnake> so maybe the new architetture like skylake can be NUMA
[12:03] <Fabou_> Even plugged directly by ethernet on the macbookpro or plugged on a internet box
[12:03] <TheSilentLink> explosive: o ok how do I do that?
[12:04] <explosive> TheSilentLink: sudo nano /etc/default/grub
[12:04] <explosive> add the line GRUB_DISABLE_OS_PROBER=true
[12:04] <explosive> save & sudo update-grub
[12:05] <explosive> TheSilentLink: actually hold on a sec, get the current windows entry from /boot/grub/grub.cfg
[12:05] <explosive> and copy it to /etc/grub.d/40_custom
[12:05] <explosive> then do the above
[12:06] <TheSilentLink> explosive: o ok thanks
[12:06] <explosive> copy everything between menuentry { .... } and change the name to whatever you'd like
[12:06] <explosive> no problem
[12:10] <Matumaros> It's still stuck on that step, what should I do? :/
[12:15] <BluesKaj> Hiyas all
[12:18] <only> hello, need urgent help please
[12:18] <only> I get this when I try to start apache2:
[12:18] <only> mktemp: failed to create file via template ‘/tmp/tmp.XXXXXXXXXX’: Read-only file system
[12:19] <only> everything was working fine, no idea what has happened
[12:19] <Matumaros> I am at a black screen where it says "[**     ] A start job is running or Ubuntu live CD installer (1min 5s / no limit)" for like half an hour now, what should I do?
[12:21] <explosive> only: try mount | nc termbin.com 9999
[12:22] <only> explosive: http://termbin.com/7e47
[12:23] <incog> A famous local tradition in Dongyang is the virgin boy egg, an annual tradition in early spring time where the urine of prepubertal school boys preferably under 10 years is collected and boiled with eggs and then sold (for 1.50 yuan around twice the price of a regular boiled egg.) and eaten, it is said "it tastes like spring". In 2008, Dongyang recognized the eggs as "local intangible cultural
[12:23] <incog> heritage."
[12:23] <nick_zone> hi, how do i Completely purge unity and install gnome
[12:23] <xafarderr> hello, can you confirm if gnome-flashback have any future?
[12:24] <explosive> only: try cat /proc/mounts | nc termbin.com 9999
[12:25] <explosive> nick_zone: that's tricky, is it a fresh install?
[12:25] <only> explosive: http://termbin.com/6phf
[12:25] <nick_zone> explosive: yep, kind of fresh
[12:26] <nick_zone> explosive: installed it only a couple of hours back.
[12:26] <explosive> nick_zone: fresh installing ubuntu is the way to go
[12:26] <nick_zone> explosive: with gnome default DE?
[12:26] <explosive> only: the root fs is mounted ro, maybe you need to try to run a fsck
[12:26] <MonkeyDust> nick_zone  no need to purge, simply install gnome-shell, logout, switch, login
[12:26] <explosive> nick_zone: yeah, download ubuntu gnome
[12:27] <nick_zone> MonkeyDust: but there will be a lot of unwanted unity packages, which I am never going to use , right
[12:27] <only> explosive: fsck on a VPS?
[12:27] <nick_zone> ?
[12:27] <explosive> only: yeah, the filesystem might be screwed (it's nothing hardware)
[12:28] <explosive> only: type "sudo touch /forcefsck" and reboot it
[12:28] <MonkeyDust> !flavours | nick_zone
[12:28] <only> explosive: touch: cannot touch ‘/forcefsck’: Read-only file system
[12:28] <Fabou_> anyone for helping me with my NAS?
[12:29] <explosive> only: try sudo mount remount,rw /
[12:29] <explosive> then sudo touch /forcefsck and reboot
[12:29] <only> mount: special device remount,rw does not exist
[12:29] <MonkeyDust> nick_zone  you can download one of the other ubuntu flavour iso's, then install that ... tip: backup first
[12:29] <only> explosive ^
[12:30] <explosive> only: sudo mount -o remount,rw /
[12:30] <nick_zone> MonkeyDust: i will just install gnome-shell and gnome-desktop :)
[12:30] <ron__> On ubuntu 16.04, you can watch the video and change the language ?
[12:30] <nick_zone> thanks mate :D
[12:30] <only> explosive: mount: cannot remount block device /dev/xvda read-write, is write-protected
[12:30] <explosive> only: maybe the vps did that somehow? as a security measure?
[12:30] <MonkeyDust> nick_zone  mind: unity is a compiz plugin for gnome3
[12:31] <nick_zone> MonkeyDust: so only so much package to download. :)
[12:32] <only> explosive: wrote them an email
[12:32] <explosive> only: ok
[12:32] <only> explosive: is there anything else I could try?
[12:33] <explosive> you can add fsck.mode=force to grub kernel line
[12:33] <explosive> if you can access grub when the pc boots
[12:33] <ron__> yes I found totem, vlc and mplayer work not very well
[12:34] <explosive> nick_zone: inside tip, ubuntu + multiple de's = not so nice
[12:34] <only> explosive: what would be the best way to explain it to the VPS?
[12:34] <only> just tell them I can't start apache2?
[12:34] <nick_zone> explosive: why so?
[12:34] <explosive> nick_zone: first you'll have ubuntu notifications in gnome looking odd, then display manager issues, then, then, then..
[12:35] <explosive> the addition of desktops is like, i dunno "an option"
[12:35] <nick_zone> explosive: u scare me :P
[12:35] <explosive> if it's fresh install i'd just reinstall ubuntu gnome fresh
[12:35] <explosive> fixing lightdm and other stuff will take longer than backing up your list of programs and d/l the .iso and reinstalling
[12:36] <explosive> and you'll have a sane clean install
[12:36] <nick_zone> explosive: i will do that then
[12:37] <explosive> only: tell them the disk is mounting read-only and when you try to remount read-write it says disk is write-protected
[12:37] <explosive> nick_zone: ok ;)
[12:37] <nick_zone> explosive: thanks mate :)
[12:37] <explosive> nick_zone: no problem :)
[12:40] <rasl> hi
[12:41] <MonkeyDust> lo
[12:44] <mikatone> hi need to rebuild a software array raid 5 this is an old array that i plugdin today and one of the disk is DEAD I'm sure I can rebuild this array but I'm having some troubles here
[12:45] <only> explosive: where can I check the log file, maybe there's something there
[12:46] <mikatone> it seems i can't get any details about partition system from both hdds fdisk or gparted nothing...
[12:46] <mikatone> any help would be much apreciated
[12:47] <MonkeyDust> mikatone  what's the output of    lsblk ... http://paste.ubuntu.com/
[12:47] <Matumaros> Please, I need help, I reinstalled Ubuntu GNOME and when it finished it told me to remove the installation media and press enter
[12:47] <Matumaros> I did, it restarted and now it says "Reboot and Select proper Boot device or Insert Boot Media in selected Boot device and press a key"
[12:48] <mikatone> MonkeyDust http://paste.ubuntu.com/17028867/
[12:49] <MonkeyDust> mikatone  ok, now lsblk -f ... what was your initial quesion?
[12:49] <mikatone> MonkeyDust sda is an old disk that it is working fine I'll use it to replace the old dead one if possible
[12:49] <explosive> only: /var/log/syslog
[12:50] <mikatone> Monkey Dust rebuild the array I just need to extract the data then i can burn the hdds :)
[12:50] <mikatone> MonkeyDust rebuild the array I just need to extract the data then i can burn the hdds :)
[12:51] <mikatone> MonkeyDust http://paste.ubuntu.com/17028948/
[12:52] <MonkeyDust> mikatone  other useful command:  sudo blkid
[12:52] <mikatone> MonkeyDust I've ecrypted the array ...
[12:53] <MonkeyDust> mikatone  sounds like you have work to do, good luck!
[12:53] <mikatone> MonkeyDust http://paste.ubuntu.com/17029006/
[12:53] <Matumaros> Is there nobody who can help me? :(
[12:54] <only> explosive: *coughs* kernel: [2049021.071272] end_request: I/O error, dev xvda1, sector 21371864
[12:55] <mikatone> MonkeyDust any tip? I'm kind of lost here... fortunatly there is nothing with much value in there asside from my first kid photos :(
[12:55] <bittin_> Any of you Linux dudes can help me find a Debian 7.11 amd64 iso?
[12:56] <BluesKaj> bittin_, ask in #debian or google it
[12:56] <explosive> only: uh oh
[12:56] <explosive> only: which vps?
[12:56] <only> explosive: can you please translate what has happened
[12:56] <only> explosive: chunkhost.com
[12:57] <explosive> only: did you try restarting the server?
[12:58] <only> from their admin panel?
[12:58] <explosive> only: contact them and show them the error
[12:59] <explosive> should be sorted out
[12:59] <BluesKaj> Matumaros, is this a dual boot with windows 8 or later?
[12:59] <only> explosive: but in layman's terms, could you please explain what has happened?
[13:00] <Matumaros> BluesKaj: No, I had Win8 on it, then installed Debian Jessie and now I'm trying to install Ubuntu, which uses all available space
[13:01] <explosive> only: i/o errors usually mean hardware issues or failure, it could mean they have a problem with their raid or something too
[13:02] <BluesKaj> Matumaros, in legacy mode with secure boot disabled?
[13:02] <bittin_> unborn in #debian helped me now :)
[13:02] <Matumaros> BluesKaj: I also had disabled UEFI before installing Debian, but I can't even get into BIOS anymore
[13:02] <Matumaros> BluesKaj: unless it switched something around by itself, yes
[13:03] <Matumaros> BluesKaj: I gotta go now, please pm me if you know a solution, otherwise I'm going to ask in half an hour again
[13:03] <BluesKaj> bittin_, fine , but this is ubuntu support, not debian, so no need for comments here about debian
[13:05] <BluesKaj> Matumaros, we need more details about your machine
[13:11] <computer> people do you know how to tracepath in ubuntu? i cannot seem to get it to work
[13:24] <pcxavi> kkk
[13:24] <incog> A famous local tradition in Dongyang is the virgin boy egg, an annual tradition in early spring time where the urine of prepubertal school boys preferably under 10 years is collected and boiled with eggs and then sold (for 1.50 yuan around twice the price of a regular boiled egg.) and eaten, it is said "it tastes like spring". In 2008, Dongyang recognized the eggs as "local intangible cultural
[13:24] <incog> heritage."
[13:25] <Myrtti> incog:  could you not?
[13:27] <BluesKaj> incog, interesting but offtopic here
[13:31] <Guest92299> hello
[13:31] <michele_> hello
[13:31] <Guest92299> !list
[13:33] <Matumaros> BluesKaj: Acer Aspire G3620 Desktop-PC (Intel Core i7 3770, 3,4GHz, 8GB RAM, 1TB HDD, 16GB SSD, NVIDIA GTX 660, DVD, Win 8) this is my computer
[13:33] <BluesKaj> Guest92299, why do you Italians think Ubunrtu is a file sharing room
[13:38] <Matumaros> BluesKaj: do you need more information?
[13:38] <BluesKaj> Matumaros, to enter the UEFI/BIOS use the F2 key, or the DEL key at the Acer Logo screen
[13:39] <Matumaros> BluesKaj: I tried that, it didn't let me
[13:39] <Matumaros> I'm going to try again...
[13:39] <BluesKaj> what was the response when you tried ?
[13:41] <Matumaros> BluesKaj: nothing, it just went straight to that black screen with the message
[13:41] <BluesKaj> what message?
[13:41] <Matumaros> BluesKaj: now I spammed both buttons and it appears to be stuck on the "acer explore beyond limits" screen
[13:42] <feneco> hi
[13:42] <Matumaros> BluesKaj:  "Reboot and Select proper Boot device or Insert Boot Media in selected Boot device and press a key"
[13:43] <feneco> the scroll step of my mouse seems to be much smaller on ubuntu than osx and windows, any idea what I could do increase system wide? on chrome I know there are some plugins that help, but I wanted to fix it system wide
[13:46] <Fabou_> is there anyone to help me with my DLink NAS?
[13:47] <BluesKaj> Matumaros,ma do you still have windows 8 installed or the windows boot partition , check with gparted live media or the ubuntu iso media
[13:47] <Matumaros> BluesKaj: no, I completely overwrote it
[13:47] <Matumaros> I formatted everything before installing Debian, and the same now with Ubuntu
[13:48] <BluesKaj> Matumaros, so do you still have the GPT partition table or msdos
[13:50] <vishwa> Hey guys, I have a question. My default software updater keeps telling me I need to update, but when I approve it stops because some of the packages are from untrusted sourcces.
[13:50] <vishwa> How do I get past this?
[13:50] <Matumaros> BluesKaj: I don't understand the question?
[13:51] <Matumaros> When I started Debian I got into grub, it had Debian selected and started it
[13:51] <Matumaros> There was no trace of Windows left in there
[13:52] <BluesKaj> Matumaros, so you reformatted the whole drive to ext4 and created anew partition table for it
[13:53] <Matumaros> BluesKaj: I just selected "Overwrite Debian and install Ubuntu"
[13:53] <Matumaros> that used all of my 1TB
[13:54] <Matumaros> BluesKaj: I was able not to get into BIOS
[13:54] <Matumaros> "Boot Menu" is "Disabled", is that right?
[13:54] <Matumaros> "Quiet Boot" is "Enabled"
[13:56] <BluesKaj> secure boot should be disabled and you should be using legacy mode in the BIOS
[13:56] <BluesKaj> Matumaros,^
[13:57] <Matumaros> BluesKaj: secure boot is disabled, I'll check for legacy mode
[14:01] <Matumaros> BluesKaj: I can't find legacy mode
[14:01] <Matumaros> Mine doesn't look like this: https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=zyabVjIZik0
[14:02] <BluesKaj> Matumaros, it shoulkd be in the boot sequence section
[14:02] <dykel> i need help to test backbox
[14:03] <Matumaros> BluesKaj: for me that section is called "Boot Options"
[14:03] <Matumaros> and at the top it says "Launch CSM", which was on "Never", the other option is "Always"
[14:03] <Matumaros> I tried both already
[14:04] <Mobiesque> Hi, just upgraded to 16.04. I get to the login screenthen, enter password  the screen glitches and bounces back to enter password.
[14:04] <Matumaros> then there is Boot Priority Order and then"Boot Menu = Disabled", "Fast Boot = Disabled", "Quiet Boot = Enabled" and "Halt on = All, but Keyboard"
[14:04] <dykel> hmmmm
[14:05] <BluesKaj> Matumaros, disable launch CSM that's UEFI not legacy
[14:05] <mlw> Does anyone have any idea when we can expect a snap of the ubuntu-sdk? :)
[14:06] <Matumaros> BluesKaj: I did
[14:06] <Matumaros> but I started that with Del, not with F2, which might be the cause
[14:06] <Matumaros> Usually I started it with F2, but that doesn't work now
[14:07] <BluesKaj> Matumaros, shouldn't matter, but use what works
[14:07] <Matumaros> BluesKaj: alright, so what to do now?
[14:08] <BluesKaj> have you tried to boot into ubuntu?
[14:08] <Matumaros> BluesKaj: How?
[14:09] <pepperone> is xubuntu good choise if i have been using MATE?
[14:09] <pepperone> What are yhe differences? besides DE (64bit mate just won't install in my computer)
[14:10] <BluesKaj> Matumaros, by restarting your pc from a cold start.
[14:10] <compdoc> pepperone, I install ubuntu server, then install a minimal mate on that
[14:10] <Matumaros> BluesKaj: completely shutting it down and letting it start without pressing anything? Yeah, that's when that message pops up
[14:11] <BluesKaj> Matumaros, then trying to reinstall ubuntu would be next
[14:12] <Matumaros> BluesKaj: I already did that, should I do it again?
[14:13] <Matumaros> BluesKaj: OK, I'm selecting "Install Ubuntu GNOME"
[14:13] <BluesKaj> Matumaros, not being familiar with some of those BIOS settings like quiet boot I'm not sure , but I think if that's not working then disable quiet boot and see what happens:-)
[14:14] <HadesWatch3r> Has anyone upgraded 14.04 to 16.04 without any issues yet?
[14:14] <Mobiesque_> I can no longer log ib
[14:14] <Matumaros> BluesKaj: Too late :P BTW, I have no internet connection on that machine because I use a WiFi Adapter that it doesn't recognize right away
[14:14] <BluesKaj> HadesWatch3r, i did
[14:15] <HadesWatch3r> You have a recent system ? Skylake, nvidia ?
[14:16] <ron__> hello, I have a mobile network card but I don't know to use. Are you a documentation ?
[14:17] <BluesKaj> HadesWatch3r, no just an intel laptop
[14:17] <HadesWatch3r> ahh.. thanks BluesKaj.
[14:17] <HadesWatch3r> I'm going to attempt it today...
[14:17] <Matumaros> BluesKaj: Selected English as language and now it asks me to "Install third-party software for graphics and Wi-Fi hardware, Flash, MP3 and other media", I selected that both times last time, should I?
[14:18] <BluesKaj> HadesWatch3r, via do-release-upgrade?
[14:18] <HadesWatch3r> yes.
[14:19] <pepperone> compdoc Is ubuntu server CLI only, so you can install what ever DE you want?
[14:19] <BluesKaj> Matumaros, , install those apps after the OS is ainstalled , it's less compilcated
[14:19] <Matumaros> ok
[14:20] <compdoc> pepperone, yes, thats right
[14:20] <HadesWatch3r> upgrade launched....
[14:20] <HadesWatch3r> fingers crossed.
[14:20] <Matumaros> BluesKaj: Now I select "Erase Ubuntu 16.04 LTS and reinstall"
[14:20] <Matumaros> right?
[14:20] <Matumaros> or "Erase disk and install Ubuntu GNOME"
[14:21] <Matumaros> with the latter I can also select "Use LVM with the new Ubuntu GNOME installation", maybe that helps?
[14:21] <HadesWatch3r> hmmm first problem... not enough space left on /boot...
[14:21] <BluesKaj> Matumaros, which desktop do you want , Unity is default on Ubuntu
[14:21] <HadesWatch3r> How to clean boot partition?
[14:22] <Matumaros> BluesKaj: GNOME, I don't like Unity
[14:22] <pepperone> compdoc thanks for info I am a noob in this linux stuff
[14:22] <nedstark> unity 8 will make ubuntu great again
[14:22] <compdoc> theres a lot to learn
[14:23] <BluesKaj> Matumaros, don't fool with LVM if you don't undersytand it
[14:23] <Matumaros> BluesKaj: that is why I'm asking you what to select :)
[14:24] <BluesKaj> Matumaros, Erase disk and install Ubuntu GNOME
[14:25] <pepperone> compdoc yeah, I have noticed...have been playing around with these "just works" distros (mate,mint,lubuntu & xubuntu)
[14:25] <mikatone> Hi any ideia how can I replace a dead hard drive raid 5  array?
[14:25] <Matumaros> BluesKaj: Ok, now I can select drive, either "SCSI1 1.0 TB" or "SCSI2 16.0 GB" (I have no idea where that one comes from)
[14:25] <Matumaros> Or I can select advanced partition tool
[14:26] <compdoc> pepperone, those are pretty good, but on my servers I dont need liberoffice and bluetooth and all the other stuff that gets installed
[14:26] <Mobiesque> Sorry to ask again, any idea why I can't get past the login screen after upgrading to 16.04? Nvidia issue maybe?
[14:26] <HadesWatch3r> nomodeset
[14:27] <BluesKaj> Matumaros, select "someting else"  which is manual partitioning them we'll proceed from there
[14:27] <BluesKaj> them=then
[14:27] <pepperone> compdoc i heard something about screen tearing in xubuntu, is that still a problem?
[14:27] <Matumaros> BluesKaj: Alright, now what?
[14:27] <compdoc> no idea
[14:28] <BluesKaj> Matumaros, choose continue and wait for the partitoner to load
[14:28] <Matumaros> It is loaded
[14:28] <nedstark> xfce has screen tearing, not just xubuntu, if your pc supports compton it eliminates it
[14:29] <BluesKaj> Matumaros, where is the 16G partition located ?
[14:29] <Theodore> can i get some help on ubuntu and installing http://ajenti.org
[14:30] <huntzor> hi all
[14:30] <HadesWatch3r> Hi.
[14:30] <Matumaros> BluesKaj: /dev/sdb1 ext4
[14:30] <Matumaros> Hi
[14:30] <huntzor> here ubuntu users?
[14:31] <BluesKaj> Matumaros, is there a /dev/sda partition?
[14:31] <huntzor> русские есть тут?
[14:32] <Matumaros> BluesKaj: yes, /dev/sda and below it free space (1 MB), /dev/sda1 (efi, 536 MB), /dev/sda2 (ext4, 991143 MB), /dev/sda3 (swap, 8522 MB)
[14:34] <DJones> !ru | huntzor
[14:34] <Matumaros> BluesKaj: My both drives are of equal size and are together 1TB, I have no USB or other thing attached, so I don't know where those 16 GB come from
[14:34] <zero_coder> hi,
[14:34] <BluesKaj> Matumaros, choose the efi and delete it
[14:34] <zero_coder> i am trying to install ubuntu
[14:35] <zero_coder> how should i make the partitions manually. there should be a parition name /mnt/efi?
[14:35] <Matumaros> BluesKaj: ok, did that and now?
[14:35] <joeyjoe> Hi
[14:35] <BluesKaj> Matumaros, actually choose every partition and delete each on except the swap
[14:36] <BluesKaj> on=one
[14:36] <joeyjoe> I'm having trouble upgrading to ubuntu 16.04
[14:36] <Matumaros> BluesKaj: /dev/sdb too?
[14:36] <BluesKaj> yes
[14:36] <joeyjoe> Could not determine the upgrade
[14:36] <joeyjoe> An unresolvable problem occurred while calculating the upgrade.
[14:37] <Matumaros> BluesKaj: I can't remove /dev/sbd, but I cleared everything below that so the only thing that shows up is "free space"
[14:39] <Theodore> hello ?
[14:39] <Theodore> can i get some help on ubuntu and installing http://ajenti.org
[14:40] <BluesKaj> ma  you should have a lrgeunallocated space now , correct?
[14:40] <BluesKaj> ma^
[14:40] <BluesKaj> Matumaros,^
[14:40] <BluesKaj> large unallocated space
[14:41] <Matumaros> BluesKaj: yes, 991681 MB
[14:41] <BluesKaj> scuse the typos Matumaros
[14:41] <daniele__> Hi everyone
[14:41] <Matumaros> no problem :)
[14:41] <daniele__> I'm having a problem with the upgrade of nvidia-364 driver
[14:42] <huntzor>  /join #ubuntu-ru
[14:42] <daniele__> When I try to install libcuda1-364 apt report this error message
[14:42] <daniele__> "var-lib-snapd-lib-gl.mount is a disabled or a static unit, not starting it"
[14:42]  * Volcanion farts and stinks up freenode
[14:42] <BluesKaj>  Matumaros, try deleting /dv/sdb again, unless it's a boot ssd drive or some such
[14:43] <BluesKaj> dev/sdb
[14:43] <Matumaros> BluesKaj: I see no option to do that
[14:43] <zero_coder> hi, how should i manually set partition for ubuntu
[14:43] <zero_coder> ?
[14:43] <Matumaros> The only things I can click are "New Partition Table..." and "Revert"
[14:45]  * vishwa what
[14:45] <Matumaros> BluesKaj: I was wrong, the 16 GB is a 16GB SSD 2
[14:45] <BluesKaj> ok Matumaros think I know what it is ,it's probly the media containing the iso, choose the unallocated space and choose chanhe . then ext4 and  / boot in the dropdown
[14:46] <Matumaros> I think I got confused with my other machine, this one has one drive with 1TB
[14:47] <Matumaros> BluesKaj: all of it?
[14:48] <yoLo_> where is the PATH file ??
[14:48] <yoLo_> i want to add a path
[14:48] <Xin> lol wat
[14:48] <Matumaros> BluesKaj: the unallocated space of /dev/sda, right?
[14:48] <yoLo_> i have tried export PATH.. doesn't work
[14:48] <BluesKaj> Matumaros, ok then choose the unallocated space and choose change . then ext4 and  / boot in the dropdown...if you want to make a smaller partition like 16G for root / then you resize sda
[14:49] <Matumaros> BluesKaj: then what?
[14:50] <BluesKaj> Matumaros, iwith the rest you can make a separate /home partition
[14:51] <Matumaros> BluesKaj: um, so 16 GB for /root and how much for /boot?
[14:52] <BluesKaj> change then ,ext4 and /home in the dropdown ...no /boot is required
[14:53] <Matumaros> BluesKaj: so I end up with one swap and one /home that takes all space available?
[14:55] <BluesKaj> Matumaros, you should have a 16GB / (root) partition at the front as I told you above..did you resize the allocated spave /dev/sda to 16GB ?
[14:55] <jhnwut> Anyone in here that plays Arma 3 with mods? Having some issues. Even though I "subscribe" to the workshop mod, I can't find it. I saw it download 2.2GB of workshop content even.
[14:55] <yoLo_> is bashrc file where i add a new path ??
[14:55] <Matumaros> BluesKaj: it wasn't quite clear because one time you said "boot" and one time "root"
[14:56] <joeyjoe> Hi
[14:56] <joeyjoe> I'm having trouble upgrading to ubuntu 16.04
[14:56] <Matumaros> BluesKaj: please just tell me one time clearly what I will end up with
[14:59] <HadesWatch3r> hmm
[15:00] <yoLo_> HadesWatch3r:
[15:00] <HadesWatch3r> My terminal just went blank.... during upgrade to 16.04...
[15:00] <HadesWatch3r> that's not a good sign..
[15:00] <BluesKaj> Matumaros, forget boot altogether, sorry about the mistake it should be (root) aka / , a 16Gb partition at the begining of the drive /dev/sda1, then the /home partition is next taking up the rest of the drive, with swap at the end
[15:00] <yoLo_> HadesWatch3r: not very good idea to upgrade
[15:00] <yoLo_> always go clean install
[15:00] <HadesWatch3r> Too late for that now..
[15:01] <OerHeks> jhnwut, is that on wine?
[15:01] <HadesWatch3r> I can't ..I've tried.. the only dist I can Install clean is ubuntu 14.04.
[15:01] <HadesWatch3r> the rest freeze at the "enter crypto password for luks"
[15:01] <HadesWatch3r> so I tried going back to 14.04 and then upgrading..
[15:01] <yoLo_> HadesWatch3r: so you cant even do a clean install of 16.04 ??
[15:01] <HadesWatch3r> no
[15:02] <yoLo_> through burned cd, HadesWatch3r  ??
[15:02] <HadesWatch3r> Technically I should say that yes I can... but it will not allow me passed the enter password for LUKS.
[15:02] <HadesWatch3r> yes.
[15:02] <jhnwut> OerHeks: No, Arma 3 i supported on Ubuntu natively.
[15:02] <jhnwut> is*
[15:02] <yoLo_> HadesWatch3r: what's you device ?
[15:02] <HadesWatch3r> Skylake ..
[15:02] <Matumaros> BluesKaj: why did it create a 159999 MB for / and 1MB free space?
[15:02] <HadesWatch3r> nvida ..
[15:03] <BluesKaj> Matumaros, / is /dev/sda1 , /home is /dev/sda2 , then swap
[15:03] <yoLo_> HadesWatch3r: your pc, laptop... ??
[15:03] <HadesWatch3r> Skylake/nvidia 980ti/32gig ram/512 ssd..
[15:03] <HadesWatch3r> pc
[15:03] <Matumaros> BluesKaj: yes, but now I have "free space (1 MB)" and "free space (0 MB)"
[15:04] <BluesKaj> Matumaros, sometimes the block devices don't line up correctly on a peririon so it leaces a small space
[15:04] <Matumaros> BluesKaj: oh, ok, now I have it as you said
[15:04] <BluesKaj> partition
[15:04] <HadesWatch3r> Wow, I can't spawn a new terminal now.. or open anything..
[15:04] <HadesWatch3r> once I reboot this is going to bomb I bet.
[15:04] <HadesWatch3r> lol.
[15:04] <yoLo_> HadesWatch3r: what is the cpu ?
[15:04] <Matumaros> can't I bind /dev/sdb to something?
[15:05] <HadesWatch3r> i7
[15:05] <Matumaros> BluesKaj: also, /home as Primary, not Logical, right?
[15:06] <BluesKaj> Matumaros, do you have a / partiton ?
[15:06] <Matumaros> BluesKaj: yes, 16 GB
[15:06] <yoLo_> HadesWatch3r: are you doing dual boot ? or you're only installing ubuntu on it ?
[15:06] <HadesWatch3r> only Ubuntu
[15:06] <heroh9> hello ubuntu
[15:07] <Matumaros> BluesKaj: brb
[15:09] <HadesWatch3r> Intel(R) Core(TM) i7-6700K CPU @ 4.00GHz
[15:09] <yoLo_> HadesWatch3r: try upgrading ram to atleast 2GB ?
[15:09] <HadesWatch3r> I have 32 gigs ?
[15:11] <yoLo_> hmmmmm...
[15:11] <yoLo_> 32GB or ram ?? :|
[15:11] <yoLo_> HadesWatch3r:
[15:11] <HadesWatch3r> 32GB of Ram
[15:11] <yoLo_> of*
[15:11] <HadesWatch3r> 512 SSD HDD
[15:11] <nedstark> in 5 years, that will be the minimum required to run chrome
[15:12] <HadesWatch3r> The Upgrade is not complete... I have to reboot.
[15:12] <yoLo_> good.. HadesWatch3r try downgrading to 2GB or atleast 4GB and try installing ubuntu 16.04 64-bit version again
[15:12] <HadesWatch3r> not=now.
[15:12] <Matumaros> BluesKaj: so now I have /dev/sda with /dev/sda1 (ext4 / 16 GB), /dev/sda2 (ext4 /home rest of space) and /dev/sda3 (swap 8522 MB). Then I also have /dev/sdb with /dev/sdb1 (ext4 /tmp 16 GB).
[15:12] <Matumaros> BluesKaj: is that fine like that?
[15:12] <HadesWatch3r> You think having 32Gb of ram is the issue?
[15:13] <yoLo_> HadesWatch3r: well.. i remember having similar issue like 7 years ago..
[15:13] <HadesWatch3r> oh.
[15:14] <yoLo_> HadesWatch3r: i was able to install but the distro was extremely slow
[15:14] <HadesWatch3r> I'll see if the reboot works and then try your suggestion.
[15:14] <yoLo_> HadesWatch3r: and i mean very very slow until i downgraded the ram
[15:14] <HadesWatch3r> thanks for the tips though.
[15:14] <BluesKaj> Matumaros, is dev/sdb1 a logical partition?
[15:14] <yoLo_> HadesWatch3r: also make sure your bios is up to date
[15:14] <Matumaros> BluesKaj: all of them are
[15:15] <flux242> lol, yeah, the distro get stray in ram
[15:15] <Matumaros> BluesKaj: oh no, sorrry, all of them are primary
[15:16] <BluesKaj> Matumaros, is there any data on sdb1?
[15:17] <Matumaros> BluesKaj: um, no? In the "used" column it says "unknown" everywhere
[15:19] <BluesKaj> Matumaros, what file system is on sda1, ext4 or ntfs ?
[15:19] <BluesKaj> sdb1 rather Matumaros
[15:21] <heroh9> hi, how can I connect with ssl sript, I can
[15:21] <exSnake> i have a question about sed
[15:21] <exSnake> someone know how to use it?
[15:21] <heroh9> i can't download it from the site
[15:22] <Matumaros> BluesKaj: ext4
[15:23] <heroh9> any help?
[15:23] <jamesl> I am having difficulties setting the SSH banner, I created the file at /etc/sshd-banner, then put "Banner /etc/sshd-banner" in /etc/ssh/ssh_config but the banner is not displayed before the login prompt, why is this? What do I need o change to enable SSH banner?
[15:24] <BluesKaj> Matumaros, is that a separate driv, HDD or SSD ?. some newer pcs come with a small separate ssd drive for boot or root ,usually boot if it's windows
[15:25] <Matumaros> BluesKaj: I guess you didn't see my message about that before, it's a 16 GB SSD, the main one is actually one 1 TB drive, not two
[15:26] <BluesKaj> Matumaros, yes but you said it was on a differnt pc
[15:26] <b_> test
[15:26] <b_> alright
[15:26] <Matumaros> BluesKaj: No, I got confused, on my other PC I have two separate drives which make up 1 TB
[15:28] <BluesKaj> Matumaros, then you could put / on that drive and use the 1TB for /home and swap
[15:28] <BluesKaj> hope it's not too late
[15:28] <Matumaros> BluesKaj: oh, ok, I'll do that
[15:30] <Matumaros> BluesKaj: ok, so the device for boot loader installation should be /dev/sdb then, right?
[15:30] <BluesKaj> Matumaros, just resize the present /  partition to fill the rest of the drive except for swap and reset it to /home
[15:30] <BluesKaj> Matumaros, yes
[15:30] <BluesKaj> for mgrub bootloader
[15:30] <BluesKaj> grub even
[15:30] <Matumaros> BluesKaj: sdb or sdb1?
[15:31] <BluesKaj> sdb
[15:33] <Matumaros> BluesKaj: now I get the message "The partition table format in use on your disk normally requires you to create a separate partition for oot loader code. This partition should be marked for use as an "EFI boot partition" and should be at least 35 MB in size. Note that this is not the same as a partition mountet on /boot. If you do not go back to th
[15:33] <Matumaros> e partitioning menu and correct this error, boot loader installation may fail later, although it may still be possible to install the boot loader to a partition.
[15:33] <home> Hi,  I keep getting this error when I try to do a system upgrade: The upgrade needs a total of 66.7 M free space on disk '/boot'. Please free at least an additional 36.8 M of disk space on '/boot'. Empty your trash and remove temporary packages of former installations using 'sudo apt-get clean'.
[15:34] <home> any help is appreciated
[15:35] <kahrl> home: have you tried 'sudo apt-get clean'?
[15:35] <home> ka
[15:35] <home> kahrl: yes - several times
[15:35] <ioria> home df -H
[15:35] <hammer25> silly question - how to you guys say "sudo"?
[15:35] <OerHeks> home, try autoremove
[15:35] <hammer25> like pseudo, or soo-doo?
[15:36] <Matumaros> like sumo :)
[15:36] <home> ioria: df - h and autoremeove ok BRB
[15:36] <helpless_noob> Hi guys! I just installed Lubuntu but I was never prompted for a wifi network connection during the installation.. Now Lubuntu was successfully installed but I can';t connect to the Wi-Fi. I read through all the blogs which talk about how to add the icon back but that did not work either (here's a link to the solution which did not work for me -> http://www.webupd8.org/2014/04/fix-lubuntu-1404-network-manager.html)
[15:36] <BluesKaj> soo doe
[15:36] <home> ioria: is that sudo df -h?
[15:37] <ioria> home  nope
[15:37] <Matumaros> BluesKaj: what should I do about that message?
[15:37] <ioria> home  just  df -H
[15:37] <ikonia> helpless_noob: if you where not prompted, it's probably because it can't configure the card, due to poor/no linux support
[15:37] <helpless_noob> I went on about how instead of throwing this old lap top my father should rather install linux on it, and now that he's finally agreed I can't get it work so your help would be greatly appreciated! Thanks so much
[15:37] <ikonia> helpless_noob: what is the make/model of the the wireles card
[15:37] <home> ioria: Filesystem      Size  Used Avail Use% Mounted on udev            990M  4.0K  990M   1% /dev tmpfs           201M  1.6M  199M   1% /run /dev/dm-0       1.8T   15G  1.7T   1% / none            4.0K     0  4.0K   0% /sys/fs/cgroup none            5.0M     0  5.0M   0% /run/lock none           1001M   20M  982M   2% /run/shm none            100M  120K  100M   1% /run/user /dev/sda1       236M  195M   29M  88% /boot
[15:37] <ioria> home  don't paste in here, please ... use paste.ubuntu.com
[15:37] <helpless_noob> ikonia: how can I find that out? It's a rather old lap top mind you
[15:37] <home> ioria: ok
[15:37] <helpless_noob> ikonia: lemme google the model specs
[15:38] <ikonia> helpless_noob: is the machine running now ?
[15:38] <home> ioria: http://paste.ubuntu.com/17034821/
[15:38] <home> ioria: sorry
[15:38] <helpless_noob> ikonia: it is indeed
[15:39] <helpless_noob> ikonia: can't find the model but it's an old lenovo (not a think-pad)
[15:39] <ikonia> helpless_noob: type "lspci" in the command prompt, and look for something that looks like it could be a wireless card
[15:40] <ioria> home  a little bit small your boot partition ... 88% full
[15:40] <ioria> home  can you paste ls /boot
[15:40] <helpless_noob> ikonia: network controller?
[15:40] <helpless_noob> ikonia: or an ethernet controller?
[15:40] <ikonia> helpless_noob: not eithernet, you're looking for wireless
[15:41] <minimec> helpless_noob: The model information might be under the battery slot. Try to remove the battery once...
[15:41] <home> DerHerks: autoreove file not fount  - I'm on ubuntu 14.04
[15:41] <Matumaros> BluesKaj: ?
[15:41] <ioria> home  in case, sudo apt-get autoremove
[15:41] <helpless_noob> ikonia: no mention of wireless
[15:42] <ikonia> helpless_noob: that's suggesting to me it can't see it, it's broken or there is no wireless
[15:42] <lordcirth> helpless_noob, "lspci | pastebinit "
[15:42] <ikonia> lordcirth: he's not on a network....
[15:42] <lordcirth> ikonia, oh ok nvrm
[15:42] <home> ioria: http://paste.ubuntu.com/17034998/
[15:42] <ikonia> helpless_noob: can you use eithernet/cabled connection ?
[15:43] <helpless_noob> ikonia: nope.. I'm connected on 3g
[15:43] <ikonia> helpless_noob: so that machine is actually on the interent at the moment ?
[15:43] <BluesKaj> Matumaros, I don't know...seems it's expecting or looking for a UEFI boot partition . I f that's tha case I would start over with gparted live media and wipe the whole drive by deleting all partitions and creating a new dos partition table, that's all I can suggest ...unless someone else has better options.
[15:43] <helpless_noob> actually.. can't I tether from my iPhone and connect my iPhone to the Lubuntu
[15:43] <helpless_noob> ??
[15:43] <home> ioria: getting autoremove now
[15:43] <helpless_noob> ikonia: ^
[15:43] <ikonia> helpless_noob: if you can do that, thats great
[15:44] <helpless_noob> ikonia: no it is not connected on the internet.. I'm writing to you from another machine
[15:44] <ioria> home  i'd remove some kernel's packages too
[15:44] <Matumaros> BluesKaj: Hum, I'll just try it like this
[15:44] <abhishek> hi
[15:45] <pawel_pl> hi
[15:45] <abhishek> Any ideas on this http://04paste.ubuntu.com/17034599/ OS-kubuntu 16.
[15:45] <abhishek> 04
[15:45] <helpless_noob> ikonia: nope.. it's not picking it up :(((
[15:45] <helpless_noob> ikonia: man.. this sucks
[15:46] <home> ioria: autoremove is still running
[15:46] <ioria> home  ok, let it going
[15:47] <abhishek> how can I check which drivers are required from command line
[15:48] <HackerII> helpless_noob:  can you run a hard line to the levino ??
[15:48] <helpless_noob> HackerII: no I can not, only have 3g
[15:48] <HackerII> interesting
[15:48] <ikonia> helpless_noob: how are you trying to tether ?
[15:48] <ikonia> wifi/cable/blutooyh ?
[15:49] <home> ioria: HEY! It looks like that cleared it up!  THANKS!!!
[15:50] <ioria> home  ok,  but think about your small /boot and kernels that you don't need ... in case  sudo apt-get purge linux-image-3.19.0-25-generic  sudo apt-get linux-headers-3.19.0-25-generic  ... and  so on
[15:50] <OerHeks> ioria, that just happened, with autoremove ..
[15:50] <OerHeks> he is now looking at update-grub .. that can take a while
[15:50] <ioria> OerHeks, oh, good to hear
[15:51] <home> ioria: I maybe a bit of a noob for that.  I left it all as defaults
[15:51] <helpless_noob> ikonia: I turned personal hot spot on my iphone and connected it to my lubuntu
[15:51] <helpless_noob> ikonia: my problem is that I don't see the network manager icon :/
[15:51] <ikonia> helpless_noob: how did you connect it ?
[15:51] <helpless_noob> plugged it in via USB
[15:52] <helpless_noob> ikonia: ^
[15:52] <ioria> home   run uname -t to know your current kernel and decide if you need other 5 of them ...
[15:52] <ioria> *uname -r
[15:52] <helpless_noob> ikonia: there's a Network Connections app where I can add networks but that's not it...
[15:52] <ikonia> helpless_noob: what do you mean "thats not it"
[15:52] <ikonia> thats not what ?
[15:52] <helpless_noob> ikonia: can't choose from any networks there
[15:53] <ikonia> helpless_noob: chose from any networks ?
[15:53] <HackerII> you have to make one using that
[15:53] <helpless_noob> ikonia: well.. usually on windows it automatically picks up that it's connected to a network
[15:54] <helpless_noob> ikonia: when I plug in my iphone with hotspot on
[15:54] <ikonia> helpless_noob: you're not using windows, and it can't see your wifi card.....
[15:54] <helpless_noob> ikonia: here nothing happens..
[15:54] <ikonia> helpless_noob: for it to use your phone over a cable it has to be able to use ethernet over usb, which will need configuring
[15:54] <helpless_noob> ikonia: ahaaa
[15:55] <ikonia> helpless_noob: you'll find it a lot easier to possibly take this forward if you can use ethernet
[15:55] <home> ioria: thanks again.  I have to get to work.  It took the upgrade.
[15:55] <ikonia> then we can work out your wifi situation and see if it's supported/fixable
[15:55] <ioria> home   no problem, have fun
[15:55] <helpless_noob> ikonia: alright so... where does that leave me?
[15:56] <helpless_noob> ikonia: thanks for your patience and time
[15:56] <minimec> helpless_noob: ikonia: If he tried to launch 'nm-applet' in a terminal. If we are lucky, he would get his icon and would be able to configure the usb network.
[15:56] <ikonia> you're welcome to try that, I don't believe that will work,
[15:56] <helpless_noob> minimec: I did try that
[15:56] <helpless_noob> minimec: notshing shows up
[15:57] <minimec> helpless_noob: Ok. THX
[15:57] <HackerII> if this is 14.04, it has a habit of nm-applet not showing, you have to delete it and re-install it.
[15:57] <helpless_noob> minimec ikonia: I tried running nm-applet manually from the terminal
[15:57] <helpless_noob> ikonia: I get the following error:
[15:57] <ikonia> it certainly does not have a "habbit"
[15:58] <helpless_noob> ikonia HackerII it's 16
[15:58] <HackerII> cool
[15:59] <helpless_noob> ikonia: the error is: WARNING:: Error retrieving accessibility bus address: org.freedesktop.DBus.Error.ServiceUnknown
[15:59] <helpless_noob> ikonia: ...The name org.ally.Bus was not provided by any .service files
[15:59] <ikonia> helpless_noob: are you launching it with sudo ?
[16:00] <OerHeks> helpless_noob, that is no error, just a message, that happens often when you start a gui program from terminal
[16:01] <ikonia> it should be able to get dbus session data for his user though
[16:01] <ikonia> assuming he's not using sudo
[16:01] <helpless_noob> ikonia: when I run it with sudo I get the same error and below it: (nm-applet:1861): Gdk-CRITICAL **: gdk_window_thaw_toplevel_updates: assertion 'window->update_and_descdendants_free_count > 0' failed
[16:02] <helpless_noob> ikonia: when I run sudo nm-applet it adds another icon to the tray
[16:02] <helpless_noob> ikonia: but the icon it adds is not a wifi icon
[16:03] <helpless_noob> ikonia: it's just two disconnected displays
[16:03] <ikonia> no, because it can't see your wifi card
[16:03] <helpless_noob> ikonia: aha I see
[16:03] <ikonia> this is why I don't see the point of even looking at nm-applet until your hardware is available to it
[16:03] <helpless_noob> ikonia: I'm screwed
[16:03] <helpless_noob> ikonia: I see
[16:03] <helpless_noob> ikonia: shit.. I screwed my father over royally
[16:04] <helpless_noob> ikonia: should I try and install ubuntu?
[16:04] <helpless_noob> ikonia: I've got the ubuntu ISO which I use sometimes
[16:04] <ikonia> helpless_noob: please don't swear
[16:05] <helpless_noob> I do apologise
[16:05] <ikonia> helpless_noob: I don't see any value to installing ubuntu again, until we know what your hardware is and it's support situation, it's just spinning your wheels
[16:05] <helpless_noob> ikonia: ok cool I'll try get the model
[16:05] <helpless_noob> ikonia: Lenovo G550
[16:06] <helpless_noob> ikonia: http://support.lenovo.com/za/en/products/laptops-and-netbooks/lenovo-g-series-laptops/lenovo-g550-notebook
[16:06] <ikonia> I don't want the device model
[16:06] <ikonia> I want the wifi card info thats in it
[16:06] <helpless_noob> ikonia: getting it
[16:07] <ikonia> helpless_noob: are you sure it has a wifi card in it ?
[16:07] <helpless_noob> ikonia: COMMUNICATIONS Wireless Protocol 802.11b/g Wireless Controller Broadcom 802.11b/g WLAN Wired Protocol 10/100 Ethernet
[16:07] <ikonia> ok, the broadcom
[16:07] <abhishek> hmmm
[16:07] <ikonia> so that maybe why it doesn't work out of the box
[16:07] <helpless_noob> ikonia: yeah my father used to connect to our wi-fi from his windows which I just nuked :((
[16:08] <ikonia> helpless_noob: why are you putting ubuntu on this ?
[16:09] <helpless_noob> ikonia: cuz the windows hadn't been updated in ages, it was clunky, it just froze and I told him that installing a light version of linux, and in particular ubuntu my favourite flavor, would make it better
[16:09] <OerHeks> sudo ubuntu-drivers devices/sudo ubuntu-drivers list/autoinstall
[16:09] <helpless_noob> ikonia: he literally only uses it to browse the internet
[16:09] <helpless_noob> ikonia: not even skype..
[16:09] <ikonia> helpless_noob: you need to look at that broadcom model and find out if/what it needs
[16:10] <ikonia> a lot of broadcom models work out of the box, some require additional 3rd party kernel modules
[16:10] <OerHeks> identifying a PCI Wifi device: "lspci -nn -d ::280"
[16:10] <ikonia> if it's struggling to run windows 10, I can't see ubuntu being "faster"
[16:10] <helpless_noob> OerHeks: can't connect the lap top to the internet through a cable.. I'm on 3h
[16:10] <helpless_noob> 3g*
[16:10] <helpless_noob> ikonia: it's struggling to run windows 7
[16:10] <HadesWatch3r> Upgrade failed.
[16:10] <HadesWatch3r> booo
[16:10] <ikonia> helpless_noob: same
[16:11] <OerHeks> type it over? this should give one line "lspci -nn -d ::280"
[16:11] <helpless_noob> OerHeks: it does
[16:12] <helpless_noob> OerHeks: Network controller [0280]" Broadcom Corporation BCM4312 802.11b/g LP-PHY [14e4:4315] (rev 01)
[16:12] <helpless_noob> OerHeks: Network controller [0280]: Broadcom Corporation BCM4312 802.11b/g LP-PHY [14e4:4315] (rev 01) *
[16:13] <lickalott> hey guys.  Found an old ipod (gen3 64GB) and it is maxxed out with music.  Some of which I've lost/misplaced over the years so I'm trying to get it back.  Running ubuntu 16.04 and have installed banshee (no worky), libgtkpod (installed successfully but not helping yet), and attempted to install libgpod and libspice (niether of which were found).  I've since given up and tried to use qemu and VM with windows but I'm getting a USB redirection error.
[16:13] <lickalott>  Any help on either side would be appreciated.
[16:13] <ikonia> lickalott: don't waste your time with an ipod
[16:13] <ikonia> thats the most realistic advice I can offer you
[16:14] <ikonia> (on linux)
[16:14] <helpless_noob> ikonia OerHeks: so should I just try and connect the lap top with an ethernet cable, run the updates and hope it sorts itself out?
[16:14] <lickalott> so find a windows box ikonia?
[16:14] <ikonia> helpless_noob: certainly not that simple, but there is room to investigate
[16:14] <ikonia> lickalott: you'll find it easier and quicker
[16:14] <lickalott> copy.
[16:14] <lickalott> thanks!
[16:15] <TheSilentLink> hello when I press ctrl+alt+1 it shows a black screen anyone know why?
[16:18] <OerHeks> helpless_noob, when you connect with cable, i think this is what you need:  sudo apt-get install firmware-b43-installer >> https://help.ubuntu.com/community/WifiDocs/Driver/bcm43xx
[16:18] <Matumaros> BluesKaj: didn't work :(
[16:18] <helpless_noob> OerHeks: thakns so much!
[16:19] <helpless_noob> ikonia: thakns so much for your help too and your patience
[16:19] <helpless_noob> I shall try and find a internet connection tomorrow with a cable and install the updates
[16:19] <OerHeks> helpless_noob, then you are a good son :-)
[16:20] <Matumaros> Does anybody else know how to fix the message "Reboot and Select proper Boot device or Insert Book Media in selected Boot device and press a key" after installing Ubuntu?
[16:20] <Matumaros> I just want it to work ;(
[16:20] <BluesKaj> Matumaros, describe "didn't work" ..that same warning about the boot ?
[16:20] <Matumaros> BluesKaj: yes, exacly same thing as before
[16:21] <BluesKaj> Matumaros, then my suggestion is to start over with gparted live media and wipe the whole drive by deleting all partitions and creating a new dos partition table, that's all I can suggest
[16:22] <Matumaros> BluesKaj: do you have a link for an ISO or something that I can burn to a CD/DVD?
[16:22] <BluesKaj> Matumaros, i have laptop that came with windows 8.1 and the procedure above worked , it's a bit radical but ti works
[16:23] <BluesKaj> !gparted | Matumaros
[16:23] <Matumaros> BluesKaj: couldn't it just be that I don't have grub installed or something?
[16:24] <BluesKaj> Matumaros, no it's not even letting you past the POST page so I'm pretty sure it's that UEFI problem
[16:25] <MRX> hey
[16:25] <Matumaros> BluesKaj: OK, I'm going to try the live CD then :(
[16:25] <BluesKaj> Matumaros, but you can try installing grub from the live cd
[16:26] <Matumaros> BluesKaj: next computer I buy I'll make sure that Linux is pre-installed
[16:26] <MRX> who have botnet !
[16:26] <Matumaros> every time I try to install Linux somewhere (no matter which distro) I have issues and it takes hours to resolve
[16:27] <OerHeks> MRX wrong channel for botnet-owners, this is ubuntu support only
[16:27] <MRX> okay
[16:30] <BluesKaj> Matumaros, I still think wiping the drive completely and creating a new dos partition tabl;e will solve your problem and gparted can do that
[16:30] <Ztr4il> Hi
[16:31] <SpacePirate> I scp'd my obmenu-generator from my arch laptop to my ubuntu server. Now, when I try to generate an openbox menu, I get this error: "Can't locate Linux/DesktopFiles.pm in @INC (you may need to install the Linux::DesktopFiles module) (@INC contains: /etc/perl /usr/local/lib/x86_64-linux-gnu/perl/5.22.1 /usr/local/share/perl/5.22.1 /usr/lib/x86_64-linux-gnu/perl5/5.22 /usr/share/perl5
[16:31] <SpacePirate> /usr/lib/x86_64-linux-gnu/perl/5.22 /usr/share/perl/5.22 /usr/local/lib/site_perl /usr/lib/x86_64-linux-gnu/perl-base .) at /usr/bin/obmenu-generator line 34"
[16:31] <SpacePirate> Is there something I can do to fix this?
[16:32] <ikonia> yes, install the missing perl libraries
[16:32] <ikonia> it's looking in /usr/local suggesting it's a manual build
[16:32] <ikonia> so I'd say stop what you're trying to do, and re-create them properly using distro tools
[16:34] <themarttins> Olá!!!
[16:36] <Matumaros> BluesKaj: I will try that
[16:36] <BluesKaj> Matumaros, it worked for me
[16:38] <themarttins> pq essa inicialização do ubuntu 16.04 está assim
[16:38] <themarttins> sem inciar o grub?
[16:39] <SpacePirate> Why am I getting "permission denied" when following these instructions: https://software.opensuse.org/download.html?project=home%3AHead_on_a_Stick%3Aobmenu-generator&package=obmenu-generator , despite running as root?
[16:39] <ikonia> SpacePirate: probably because it's not executable
[16:40] <ikonia> SpacePirate: that package is also for debian - not for ubuntu
[16:42] <SpacePirate> Ubuntu is based on debian...
[16:42] <ikonia> but it is not debian
[16:42] <SpacePirate> >For debian, not ubuntu... (managed to get it to work anyway)
[16:43] <ikonia> up to you if you want to use it, but your machine will not be supported
[16:43] <SpacePirate> That's fine by me.
[16:46] <dave_470> anyone form mtl here?
[16:46] <trijntje> I just suspended my computer, and now I have no sound. How can I fix this?
[16:46] <ikonia> dave_470: why ?
[16:46] <dave_470> just to know!
[16:47] <dave_470> new to all of this and in mtl
[16:47] <jackcom> how can i install vnc server?
[16:47] <dave_470> so thought i would ask!
[16:47] <ikonia> dave_470: have a look at the links in the /topic
[16:47] <ikonia> dave_470: that will give you an idea what this channel is all about and how to use it
[16:47] <dave_470> cool thx
[16:49] <dyc3> I have been at this for a few hours now, but i set up a dhcp-tftp server to boot off of, and it works. I'm trying to set up the simple menu system (described here: http://www.syslinux.org/wiki/index.php?title=Menu ) but i can't seem to get it working. It's not exactly clear to me what to put in my pxelinux.cfg/ files, and what files i should have. Can someone help me understand this?
[16:50] <ikonia> dyc3: you just need a definition file in the pxelinux.cfg directory
[16:50] <ikonia> default is the norm
[16:51] <ikonia> then you can include more if you want a more complex setup
[16:51] <computer> people, how can i check to see if a software is available in apt-get?
[16:51] <computer> or what is the code it is under?
[16:51] <ikonia> computer: search the repo
[16:51] <ikonia> what is the code ?
[16:51] <trijntje> I just suspended my computer, and now I have no sound. How can I fix this? A reboot doesn't help
[16:52] <computer> ikonia: i am note sure of the code it is the Visual Molecular Dynamics
[16:52] <dyc3> ikonia: the wiki article says i need a  com32/menu/menu.c32 file with my menu definitions in it
[16:52] <ikonia> the code ?
[16:52] <ikonia> dyc3: no, thats a library used to display the menu, thats not the actual definition file
[16:53] <dyc3> ikonia: oh, ok. i'll take another shot at it.
[16:55] <SpacePirate> ikonia: thanks for the help btw.
[16:55] <FrameFever> I get following error when eexcecuting: "curl -sSL "http://llvm.org/apt/llvm-snapshot.gpg.key" | sudo -E apt-key add -"
[16:55] <FrameFever> gpg: no valid OpenPGP data found.
[16:58] <squinty> FrameFever, firefox -> The requested URL /apt/llvm-snapshot.gpg.key" was not found on this server.
[16:59] <ioria> FrameFever, APT mirror was temporary switched off due to excess load. We are working on bringing it back. Stay tuned!
[16:59] <computer> exit
[17:04] <FrameFever> ioria: what is the problem? something on LLVM?
[17:04] <ioria> FrameFever, no idea
[17:06] <FrameFever> ioria: what is an APT mirror?
[17:07] <chaotix> has anyone else noticed a problem in ubuntu 16.04 where when you go to type things in, it will mess up or change to another field or something?
[17:07] <ioria> FrameFever,   http://llvm.org/apt/
[17:07] <chaotix> i cant really describe the problem in a way that i can google
[17:07] <ikonia> chaotix: type things where ?
[17:08] <chaotix> into text fields
[17:08] <ikonia> text fields where ?
[17:08] <chaotix> for example, typing in this box here in hexchat, sometimes its almost like if i pressed alt+tab
[17:08] <ikonia> are you on a laptop ?
[17:08] <chaotix> or, in the middle of typing, it will select all the text and theen i will type over it
[17:09] <chaotix> ikonia, yes
[17:09] <ikonia> chaotix: I suspect your track pad sensitivty is way too high
[17:09] <ikonia> it's a common complaint
[17:09] <chaotix> ok, i will try to change that, thanks
[17:09] <ikonia> and it's selecting text/changing area when your thumb hovers over it
[17:09] <chaotix> i will do it now and see if it helps
[17:14] <velus> hello i am as user root and tryign to run something and i keep getting permission denied
[17:15] <velus> ok i got it now i needed to do it as a executable
[17:19] <user2635> In home, what is the 'Templates' folder for?
[17:21] <ioria> user2635, http://askubuntu.com/questions/94734/what-is-the-templates-folder-in-the-home-directory-for
[17:24] <user2635> ioria, thanks
[17:24] <ioria> user2635, you're welcome
[17:25] <LiveBoot> can anyone help me with a persistent ubuntu USB drive?
[17:26] <Guy1524> guys, I have an nvidia card, how do I turn up core voltage and power limit
[17:26] <Guy1524> all I see is graphics and memory clock after I enable coolbits
[17:27] <tuxedo_> why google earth doesn't work on 16.04?
[17:27] <Guy1524> nvm found out
[17:28] <tuxedo_> Hi
[17:28] <BluesKaj> Guy1524, search for nvidia xserver settings
[17:28] <Nytician> Hi I'm thinking of switching from Windows to Linux but I want to use it on a fully offline PC is that possible?
[17:28] <tuxedo_> why google earth doesn't work in 16.04
[17:28] <ikonia> melh: no problem at all
[17:29] <ikonia> tuxedo_: what happens when you try to use it
[17:29] <OerHeks> tuxedo_, some lsb error ? https://productforums.google.com/forum/#!topic/maps/XKPWeYfekb8;context-place=topicsearchin/maps/category$3Alinux%7Csort:relevance%7Cspell:false
[17:29] <BluesKaj> Nytician, why offline ? Linux is alot safer online than windows is.
[17:30] <OerHeks> lsb and lsb-core have been depreciated in Ubuntu 16.04
[17:30] <tuxedo_> I'm installed with gdebi everything ok in the installation, when i look for in unity lunch i Cant see over ther
[17:30] <Nytician> Yeah it's not safety it's just personal reasons really. Is it possible to get things from USB on an online PC and install them on the offline one?
[17:31] <ikonia> Nytician: a lot more work, but yes
[17:33] <BluesKaj> Nytician, unless you use the 3rd party install option while installing ubuntu which does need an internet connection at least temporarily for an easier install
[17:34] <tuxedo_> sorry give me this error
[17:34] <tuxedo_> Dependency is not satisfiable lsb-core(>=3.2)
[17:35] <Nytician> Ok
[17:35] <ikonia> tuxedo_: so thats why it doesn't work, the package provided by google has dependencies that ubuntu can no longer meet
[17:36] <tuxedo_> ok
[17:36] <Nytician> oh blueskaj didn't know it required internet just to install :s
[17:36] <ikonia> it's not required
[17:36] <tuxedo_> I trying now with the 32bit edition
[17:36] <ikonia> it's an option
[17:36] <ikonia> tuxedo_: it won't work
[17:36] <tuxedo_> oh!!!
[17:37] <tuxedo_> so, has to wait for google update
[17:38] <OerHeks> tuxedo_, there are pages to download the old debian packages, but that can make problems too, like http://skagitsignal.com/how-to-install-google-earth-64-bit-in-ubuntu-16-04-lts-x64/ ... PLUS ... Signature by key 4CCA1EAF950CEE4AB83976DCA040830F7FAC5991 uses weak digest algorithm (SHA1)
[17:39] <OerHeks> no updates too
[17:39] <OerHeks> go for openstreetmaps :-)
[17:39] <xangua> Gnome maps
[17:39] <BluesKaj> pretty slim install just adds to your install workload later, Nytician
[17:40] <Nytician> Ahh okay. The reason I want Linux primarily over Linux is because it's open source and Windows requires Internet activation. When I get Ubuntu working what about software? I've been reading it's all command line based connecting to Internet can I do it manually somehow? I don't mind effort because once I get it working I'll keep backups etc
[17:40] <Nytician> @ ikonia and blueskaj
[17:40] <Nytician> Ahh I see
[17:41] <ikonia> Nytician: have a read of https://help.ubuntu.com
[17:41] <ikonia> Nytician: that should give you an overview
[17:43] <BluesKaj> Nytician, there's a package manager GUI to help install packages/apps, but once you're familiar with th command line it's very useful and powerful
[17:43] <Nytician> Ikonia thanks I'll look through
[17:43] <Nytician> Blueskaj yup I'm wanting to learn but like I say I would want to get software from another PC via use but
[17:44] <Nytician> usb* but so far I only find online methods of installing software really
[17:44] <xangua> ! Offline | Nytician
[17:45] <OerHeks> softwarecenter can download packages for offline too
[17:45] <Nytician> Oh nice that's built in? Awesome!
[17:47] <BluesKaj> Nytician,, that's the beauty of Linux , so many options :-)
[17:47] <Slartibart> How do I make a service start upon system boot in 16.04? (Wow, that did sound complicated) Is it possible to make it start when needed, is required or similar? To be specific I'm using postfix, which requires courier-authdaemon to be started. It's fine to start it when I boot, but at the same time I don't want to start things until I actually need them..
[17:47] <Slartibart> Should I create a file for the service in /etc/init?
[17:48] <ikonia> Slartibart: if you install postfix it comes with a systemd init script
[17:48] <ikonia> Slartibart: the OS will manage it for you
[17:48] <ikonia> Slartibart: /etc/init is dead, 16.04 uses systemd, no longer upstart
[17:52] <Slartibart> ikonia: Sounds great, but I guess my system is missing something then :-[. I started the postfix service and then I couldn't login, which was due to courier-authdaemon not running. I'll read up on systemd and dig into it though. Thanks :).
[17:53] <ikonia> Slartibart: how did you start the postfix service
[17:53] <ikonia> Slartibart: when you installed it it should have autostarted
[17:53] <Slartibart> ikonia: sudo service postfix start
[17:54] <ikonia> Slartibart: there we go then
[17:54] <ikonia> thats not calling systemd directly,
[17:54] <Slartibart> ah
[17:54] <Slartibart> Just as I felt good about having learned using service..
[17:54] <OerHeks> systemctl status postfix.service
[17:57] <nutzz> [Homework] There is a question on my homework: "Whatt are the data structures used by the linux kernel to keep track of the active processes?" I know that there is a process table which keep informations about each process (like pid, or what systems resoruces it has allocated). Could this be a good answer?
[17:57] <Pinchiukas> Is it just me or does xenial-backports just contain a single package?
[17:57] <Slartibart> OerHeks: Thanks.
[17:59] <Slartibart> Something isń't working though. I stopped the authdaemon with 'systemctl stop courier-authdaemon.service', and then 'systemctl restart postfix.service' (with authentication popups as I wasn't using sudo). And then I couldn't login again, the authdaemon wasn't running. Should I reboot  or something before testing this again?
[18:08] <Pinchiukas> Anyone?
[18:11] <chaotix> ikonia, i found the way to access the touchpad's settings, and i was hoping you could help me to make sure i dont mess anything up
[18:14] <chaotix> ikonia, here is the output:
[18:15] <chaotix> ikonia, here is the output: http://paste.ubuntu.com/17041539/
[18:19] <chaotix> i think i got it
[18:21] <Pinchiukas> Is it just me or does xenial-backports just contain a single package?
[18:24] <mundus2018> Im trying to make the alias fuck='sudo !!'
[18:24] <mundus2018> but it says sudo: !!: command not found
[18:25] <ikonia> mundus2018: grow up
[18:25] <ikonia> we don't want that sort of langauge in here
[18:25] <mundus2018> ?
[18:25] <mundus2018> ok cool, im just asking how to make an alias
[18:25] <ikonia> exactly as you have done
[18:26] <Cprossu> hey what's the easiest way to override false EDID? I have a monitor that has a recc'd edid of 1280x768 @ 48.7hz (it will run fine forced at 60hz but I'd be fine with it at 1024x768 @ 60hz since it is a digital signage thing)... every time the machine reboots it defaults to the incorrect edid, same if the monitor is unplugged/replugged.
[18:26] <mundus2018> why is it says sudo: !!: command not found
[18:26] <mundus2018> *is it saying
[18:26] <Cprossu> graphics is like i945g on an atom board
[18:26] <russell_> hello all i am new. hope you dont mind if i hang around a
[18:26] <ikonia> because !! is not found or a valid command
[18:26] <mundus2018> I can do sudo !!
[18:26] <ikonia> yes you can
[18:27] <ikonia> however !! is not a valid command
[18:27] <ikonia> so the alias will execute it literally
[18:27] <Guest48940> can someone please tell me how to properly backup 'apt-get'  to work offline, i want to be able to run apt-get update and then save this state for backup to an offline machine
[18:27] <mundus2018> !! is a command
[18:28] <ikonia> mundus2018: no, it's not
[18:28] <mundus2018> I can run !! as user
[18:28] <ikonia> yes
[18:28] <mundus2018> without sudo in front
[18:28] <ikonia> it's a shell function
[18:28] <Guest48940> join #linux
[18:28] <mundus2018> ah
[18:33] <amaroq> to make forum using phpBB i need LAMP or just "basic ubuntu server" ?
[18:33] <Guest48940> does anyone know how to properly back up apt-get after running apt-get update to restore current state onto another system, thanks
[18:33] <Guest48940> if i try to reinstall packages onto an offline system i will get errors that it needs to grab 'mb of archives'
[18:34] <Exagone313> Guest48940: https://help.ubuntu.com/community/InstallingSoftware#Installing_packages_without_an_Internet_connection
[18:34] <Guest48940> i want to backup the current state of apt-get after running a fresh apt-get update and restore this list onto another system
[18:34] <Guest48940> nothing seems to work
[18:34] <Topri> Hi there! I have this question about the preparation of a bootable partition on an external Hard Drive: I have 2 partition on the USBHD, say A and B. B is flagged bootable. I need to tell to StartUp Disk creator that I want it to deploy the distro in B, but somewhat it does not mention both partitions in a menu. It just sees only the Drive as a whole...
[18:34] <ikonia> Topri: because it uses the whole key, not a partition
[18:35] <OerHeks> amaroq, lamp is ubuntu server  .. linux, apache myql php
[18:35] <Exagone313> Topri: do you want to install ubuntu on this partition?
[18:35] <Topri> so, considering just B is bootable, it will deploy on B leaving A intact?
[18:35] <amaroq> OerHeks, and the other one? "basic ubuntu server" ? I dl tasksel and it's giving me options
[18:35] <Guest48940> Exagone313, that is not really what i am looking for, i am looking for an answer of how to properly back up an updated instance of apt-get, not a third party application
[18:36] <Guest48940> how do i import the list after running 'apt-get update' onto another system
[18:36] <OerHeks> other one??
[18:36] <Exagone313> amaroq: lamp just means linux + apache (apache2) + mysql (or mariadb) + php (php5 or php7). you can do this any linux distrib, like ubuntu server
[18:36] <ikonia> you can use ubuntu desktop just fine
[18:36] <Exagone313> with any*
[18:36] <Guest48940> i tried backing up /var/cache/apt/ pkgcache.bin and srcpkgcache.bin and /etc/apt entirely
[18:37] <amaroq> OerHeks, sudo tasksel shows me options including "basic ubuntu server"
[18:37] <Guest48940> im specifically looking for information on how to back up apt-get thanks
[18:37] <amaroq> Exagone313, I see, so, why the options Lamp or 'ubuntu server' ?
[18:37] <OerHeks> amaroq, if you want a forum, you need a webserver = lamp
[18:38] <Exagone313> I don't support the software you use
[18:38] <amaroq> OerHeks, ok, that's all I need to know then - thanks :)
[18:38] <Exagone313> Topri: if you want to install Ubuntu on B, try debootstrap
[18:39] <Exagone313> + install grub or selinux on your usb key
[18:39] <ikonia> why do that ?
[18:39] <ikonia> Exagone313: selinux ??? what are you talking about
[18:39] <Exagone313> wrong term I think
[18:39] <ikonia> Topri: you just want to run a system from a usb key yes ?
[18:39] <Exagone313> syslinux*
[18:40] <amaroq> ikonia, were you talking to me, "you can use ubuntu desktop just fine" ?
[18:40] <ikonia> amaroq: yes
[18:40] <Topri> ikonia: yes. I previously deployed just in B, some time ago...I just got confused that diskcreator does not separate A from B...
[18:40] <amaroq> I didn't get that, ikonia
[18:40] <ikonia> Topri: disk creator creates install media
[18:40] <amaroq> ikonia, installation is now on the way, but could you explain anyway, please?
[18:40] <Topri> yes, I want to creat an install media.
[18:41] <ikonia> Topri: you will have a better experience if you actually boot the isntaller and install to the usb key, so the file system is not runing from decompressed squash fs
[18:41] <ikonia> amaroq: explain what ?
[18:42] <amaroq> ikonia, what you said to me about ubuntu desktop being fine - how?
[18:42] <ikonia> amaroq: just install a web server, php and mysql, it doesnt' matter if it's ubuntu server or ubuntu desktop, it will work just fine
[18:42] <Topri> ok, i'll do my best to figure this out! thanks!!
[18:43] <amaroq> ikonia, got it. Yes, that's what I'm doing in fact. I am running Mate here and installed tasksel as I was advised to with which I've chosen 'LAMP' which it is now installing (on my ubuntu-mate desktop system)
[18:46] <SpectreNectar> hello, trying to join the Linux world here =) here's where am at: http://files.64digits.com/SpectreNectar/DSC_0179.JPG (help much appreciated)
[18:46] <ikonia> SpectreNectar: and ?
[18:47] <SpectreNectar> I'm wondering how to define swap space
[18:47] <ikonia> exactly the same as a partition
[18:47] <ikonia> you just set the file system to swap
[18:48] <SpectreNectar> so edit partition -> use as: swap area for (the entire tb=
[18:48] <ikonia> why would you use 1tb ?
[18:48] <ikonia> yopu've not defined any linux partitions
[18:48] <ikonia> define some linux partitions and define a swap partition,
[18:49] <SpectreNectar> because that's the amount there is on it.. I have sereral drives on the machine
[18:49] <ikonia> SpectreNectar: do you understand what swap is used for ?
[18:49] <ikonia> and why are you worrying about swap when you haven't defined any linux partitions for ubuntu to install to
[18:49] <SpectreNectar> no
[18:50] <SpectreNectar> I'm concerned because it gave a popup that I ought to have some
[18:50] <ikonia> you don't have ANY linux partitions
[18:50] <ikonia> why are you pressing "install now"
[18:50] <SpectreNectar> oh
[18:50] <SpectreNectar> I thought I had one  actually I made one after the screenshot
[18:51] <ikonia> so just create a swap partition then
[18:51] <SpectreNectar> let me give a fresh screnshot sec
[18:51] <ikonia> make it a gig or two max
[18:52] <mundus2018> 777 is full perms right?
[18:52] <mundus2018> or is that 775?
[18:52] <teward> mundus2018: "full perms" varies use case to use case
[18:52] <ikonia> mundus2018: is open to everyone with full access
[18:52] <mundus2018> I just mean like full rw
[18:52] <mundus2018> oh thanks
[18:52] <ikonia> mundus2018: everyone in the world will have read/write/execute
[18:53] <mundus2018> ok, thanks what I needed
[18:53] <ikonia> no-one should ever need 777
[18:53] <ikonia> I'd suggest you look at what you really need
[18:54] <SpectreNectar> this is what I'm looking at now: http://files.64digits.com/SpectreNectar/DSC_0180.JPG
[18:55] <Exagone313> mundus2018: permissions are also recursive, if you set 600 to /a, and 777 to /a/b, only the own of /a can do something with /a/b
[18:55] <ikonia> SpectreNectar: so make a swap partition
[18:55] <mundus2018> ah
[18:56] <Exagone313> and permissions on directories are a bit different also, but I don't remember which one do what
[18:56] <SpectreNectar> ikonia, can I do that now that I have used up all the space?
[18:57] <ikonia> make the partition smaller then
[18:57] <SpectreNectar> ok so I'll just revert then and preserve some space for swap
[19:07] <SpectreNectar> ikonia, thanks for helping out I got it working now ^^
[19:10] <calmar> hi all. let's say I install ubunto onto a usb3-external harddisk. .. how likely will that system startup onto another computer?
[19:11] <Javabean> i have a setup similar, calmar... it doesn't work out so well switching comps
[19:11] <ioria> calmar, it should
[19:12] <MonkeyDust> calmar  or do you mean, an unwanted 'other computer'
[19:12] <ioria> calmar, you install grub on your external, so booting every pc from that device should start it
[19:13] <OerHeks> calmar, if the hardware is identical, maybe.
[19:13] <calmar> maybe with a different graphic-card.. there's the .. hang.. right?
[19:14] <Javabean> OerHeks: i have no trouble with identical hardware, everything else hangs during plymouth
[19:14] <ioria> calmar, it will load the opensource driver
[19:14] <calmar> ioria, MonkeyDust, OerHeks ok cool, thanks :)
[19:14] <HappyHobo> Hello folks.
[19:15] <ioria> calmar, but clearly depends....
[19:15] <krabador> calmar, a static installation may not work properly everywhere
[19:15] <calmar> ioria: krabador yeah.. I guess into the console.. it should so.  the rest may be tricky
[19:16] <calmar> s/console/terminal/
[19:16] <calmar> (similar cpu..)
[19:17] <ioria> calmar, don't but a 64 bit on a pentium 4, for example :þ
[19:17] <ioria> *boot
[19:18] <HappyHobo> I'm having sound issues still.
[19:23] <HappyHobo> It no workie.
[19:24] <OerHeks> HappyHobo, time to give details what you did and what you tried to fix it
[19:26] <HappyHobo> well I tried pavucontrol and nothing shows as being muted, I tried alsamixer, I tried dpgk-configure pulseaudio
[19:28] <lordcirth> HappyHobo, do you have 2 sound devices, one of which is an HDMI audio?  That's a common problem.
[19:28] <OerHeks> alsamixer > f6 > select sounddevice
[19:28] <HappyHobo> lordcirth:  No I don't.
[19:29] <lordcirth> Ok, was worth a shot.
[19:30] <BluesKaj> HappyHobo, details please
[19:31] <HappyHobo> I dist-upgrade and I lost my sound.
[19:31] <HappyHobo> I never had this problem with ubuntu mate
[19:31] <HappyHobo> xubuntu should be the same
[19:35] <MonkeyDust> HappyHobo  in a terminal, type    alsamixer ... if you see MM, go there and hit m to unmute
[19:35] <HappyHobo> I don't see a MM
[19:36] <HappyHobo> Well there is an mm on headphones
[19:36] <ioria> HappyHobo, uname -r ?
[19:37] <HappyHobo>  uname -r
[19:37] <HappyHobo> 4.4.0-22-generic
[19:38] <BluesKaj> HappyHobo, what about automute in alsamixer, is it disabled?
[19:38] <HappyHobo> Where do I find that?
[19:38] <BluesKaj> on the far right
[19:38] <HappyHobo> It says enabled
[19:39] <BluesKaj> use the downkey to disable it
[19:39] <HappyHobo> Still no sound
[19:39] <ioria> HappyHobo, you can try to boot a previous kernel from grub, pressing Shift
[19:40] <HappyHobo> OK brb
[19:40] <HappyHobo> reboot now right?
[19:40] <ioria> HappyHobo, yep
[19:40]  * BluesKaj wonders if he knows how to navigate in alsmixer
[19:41] <HappyHobo> Not very well but yes
[19:41] <ioria> eheheh
[19:41] <HappyHobo> brb
[19:41] <BluesKaj> with the left right arrow kweys
[19:42] <BluesKaj> oh well I guess a different kerenel might fix the problem, but I doubt it
[19:43] <ioria> especially if he ran autoremove
[19:45] <BluesKaj> pulseaudio is also misdirecting the signal in some cases even after changing the output to the correct setting
[19:45] <Kurogane> Hello, i have a problem with files anime and is about unicode problem. The problem is i have a files with name for example "econ#U00f3micas" and i want to convert to "económicas". there is any way to do in script command line?
[19:47] <HappyHobo> Still no sound.
[19:47] <MonkeyDust> Kurogane  type    mv econ [tab] económicas [enter]
[19:48] <ioria> HappyHobo, cat /var/log/apt/history.log
[19:52] <Kurogane> MonkeyDust, what? is not just a file i have a lot files with this issue also in various directories.
[19:52] <HappyHobo> http://pastebin.com/1MhtcFed   IT'S HUGE!
[19:52] <HappyHobo> \
[19:52] <MonkeyDust> Kurogane  ok, then you need a script, you can use 'sed' for it ... the people in #bash can help better with scripts
[19:53] <yoLo_> I'm stuck in a log in loop..
[19:54] <yoLo_> how can i fix this ?
[19:56] <ioria> HappyHobo, yeah, a lot of packagers updated ... idk what could be the issue
[19:56] <BluesKaj> yoLo_, drop to a tty/vt , ctl+alt+f1-f6 . login then update and upgrade
[19:56] <yoLo_> BluesKaj:  tty/vt ??
[19:57] <HappyHobo> ioria:  I update daily.
[19:57] <BluesKaj> yoLo_, Vt is a virtual terminal like the console
[19:58] <Exagone313> yoLo_: did you change your graphic card driver or edited any Xorg setting?
[19:58] <ioria> HappyHobo, the upgrade of 2016-06-03  17:16:20 it's big ...
[19:58] <HappyHobo> Yes it is.
[19:58] <yoLo_> i edited ~/.profile
[19:58] <yoLo_> Exagone313:
[19:59] <Exagone313> yoLo_: then go into a tty, and edit your file back
[19:59] <ioria> HappyHobo, aplay -l     gives you your card ?
[19:59] <yoLo_> Exagone313: how do i get into tty ?
[19:59] <HappyHobo> http://pastebin.com/1MhtcFed
[20:00] <yoLo_> recovery mode ?? Exagone313  ?
[20:00] <Exagone313> yoLo_: did you search by yourself before asking this question?
[20:00] <ioria> HappyHobo, syntax error ...
[20:00] <HappyHobo>  aplay -l  **** List of PLAYBACK Hardware Devices ****  card 0: Intel [HDA Intel], device 0: ALC272X Analog [ALC272X Analog]
[20:00] <HappyHobo>   Subdevices: 0/1  Subdevice #0: subdevice #0
[20:01] <yoLo_> Exagone313:  i have but never encounter tty
[20:01] <yoLo_> It said that i need to go in recovery mode
[20:01] <Exagone313> yoLo_: ctrl + alt + f1
[20:01] <Exagone313> f7 is the default for graphic, and f1...f6 are ttys
[20:02] <yoLo_> Exagone313: i hit this at boot up right ?
[20:02] <Exagone313> no
[20:02] <Exagone313> when you see your login screen (lightdm probably)
[20:03] <yoLo_> ok Exagone313  in tty mode i can have access to everything right ?
[20:03] <userlubomir1112> привет!
[20:03] <Exagone313> yoLo_: you get a terminal
[20:03] <yoLo_> so i can modify ~/.profile
[20:03] <yoLo_> alright
[20:03] <yoLo_> i will do this right now
[20:04] <Exagone313> yes, but inside a terminal, so using an editor like vim
[20:04] <givonne> hello
[20:04] <HappyHobo> ioria:  typing speak ubu speak isn't working.
[20:04] <BluesKaj> Exagone313, nano is less dangerous
[20:04] <Exagone313> I don't know others, tell him how to use it
[20:06] <BluesKaj> yoavz, sudo nano ~/.profile , then do your edit , ctl+o then enter, then ctl+x, to save and exit the file
[20:07] <user2635> Within keyboard shortcuts, some entries show XF86Mail for example, for the email client. What does XF86 mean?
[20:07] <BluesKaj> oops yoLo left
[20:08] <HappyHobo> BluesKaj:  can you take over where ioria left off since he left?
[20:10] <MonkeyDust> sudo -e edits with the default, wel, editor
[20:10] <note1989> Hi i would like to change keymap when i pressdown alt and then when i release switch back. What i really just want to do is to have three special swedish characters when pressing down alt. getting tired of switching layout all the time
[20:10] <BluesKaj> HappyHobo, I wasn't following since I couldn't figure out what you guys were doing with changing kernels etc
[20:11] <HappyHobo> He thought it was a kernel change that did it.
[20:11] <MonkeyDust> BluesKaj  and ~/.profile doesnt need sudo, as it sits in /home
[20:11] <HappyHobo> He thought it was a recent update that did it.
[20:11] <BluesKaj> MonkeyDust, oh right doh!
[20:16] <BluesKaj> HappyHobo, think pulseaudio/pavucontrol might be misdirecting the audio signal, that's a recent bug with some cards, once you set he out put in pulse , make sure you reboot
[20:21] <user2635> What does KP mean in relation to keyboard shortcuts?
[20:23] <OerHeks>  KeyPad (numberpad key buttons).
[20:24] <HappyHobo> BluesKaj:  Um what am I doing?
[20:28] <BluesKaj> sorry HappyHobo, i have to go
[20:30] <econdudeawesome> Howdy all! Ran into some weird error. My hard drive space is totally gone after leaving my computer on a few days
[20:31] <HappyHobo> Cat left behind downloading kitty porn?
[20:31] <econdudeawesome> possibly. Barring that, any thoughts? :)
[20:32] <k1l> econdudeawesome: possible logfiles issue with spamming errors in them.
[20:32] <HappyHobo> Hi k
[20:33] <ubuntu446> hello all, i have failover ip block, i want to use them to by pass a ban if the main ip , how can i achieve this ? days and days looking with no clue
[20:33] <ubuntu446> is there any way to do this ?
[20:36] <ubuntu446> need ur help
[20:37] <ubuntu446> is there any one here who can help me ?
[20:45] <MonkeyDust> ubuntu446  'pass a ban'? ban by whom?
[20:48] <abdulkarim> hi,guys
[20:49] <teward> MonkeyDust: "by pass a ban" = "bypass a ban"
[20:49] <teward> which sounds like they're trying to ban evade somewhere
[20:49] <teward> and I don't think that's something we really help with here?
[20:50] <MonkeyDust> teward  it sounds suspicious, that's why i asked
[20:52] <josephpagoda-lap> Hello Everyone!  I'm running Ubuntu Gnome but I think the issue applies here too.  https://bugs.launchpad.net/ubuntu/+source/xserver-xorg-input-synaptics/+bug/1312834  I'm running into that.  I'm on my Macbook and things seem to be working ok, it's just that issue that I've got left to fix.
[20:53] <josephpagoda-lap> any ideas on what I can do?
[20:54] <josephpagoda-lap> https://bugs.launchpad.net/ubuntu/+source/xserver-xorg-input-synaptics/+bug/1026046 that is the same bug it looks like
[20:54] <josephpagoda-lap> so this has been known about and confirmed for quite some time
[20:57] <ubuntu446> MonkeyDust ban of ip by a server
[20:57] <ubuntu446> so im trying static route
[20:57] <ubuntu446> i have failover block ip
[20:58] <ubuntu446> i want to use one of them as a main ip, so when i download something, their server will see another ip
[20:59] <MonkeyDust> ubuntu446  how legal is that, in your country?
[20:59] <ubuntu446> 100%
[20:59] <ubuntu446> im not downloading movies or music
[20:59] <HappyHobo> I just can't get the sound working.
[20:59] <ubuntu446> its just live stream and i convert it
[21:02] <helpy> hello all
[21:02] <helpy> i can't get urdu fonts right
[21:02] <HappyHobo> Hi helpy
[21:02] <helpy> http://askubuntu.com/questions/299424/urdu-fonts-not-rendering-properly-in-chrome
[21:03] <helpy> can anyone help ? i have done everything possible
[21:03] <MonkeyDust> ubuntu446  then simply ask them to unban your ip
[21:03] <helpy> http://www.urdujahan.com/linux.html
[21:03] <helpy> this too
[21:03] <ubuntu446> thank you for your help, even that it still a challenge for me to know how can we achieve this
[21:03] <ubuntu446> or im not allowed to know ?
[21:04] <mundus2018> Im trying to configure a samba share, will path = / work?
[21:05] <mundus2018>  /ns identify
[21:06] <mundus2018> oops
[21:06] <whaity> mundus2018 ;)
[21:06] <mundus2018> thank god I didnt type my password lol
[21:08] <helpy> anyone ?
[21:09] <numnum> ?
[21:10] <k1l> !rootirc | numnum
[21:10] <abdulkarim> is it possible to install torrents
[21:10] <k1l> abdulkarim: "install torrents"?
[21:10] <abdulkarim> ???
[21:10] <wafflejock> abdulkarim, you use a torrent to download a file
[21:10] <wafflejock> abdulkarim, you install a torrent client
[21:11] <wafflejock> abdulkarim, the .torrent file is just a link to get the actual download
[21:11] <k1l> abdulkarim: you can use torrent clients. or use torrent clients to down/upload torrents. but you cant "install a torrent"
[21:11] <ubuntu446> guys pls how can i change the primary adresse , like taken one from my failover block
[21:11] <abdulkarim> how do i get that torrent client
[21:12] <wafflejock> abdulkarim, you can use, sudo apt install transmission
[21:12] <k1l> abdulkarim: i think ubuntu ship transmission as a program to load torrents.
[21:12] <wafflejock> abdulkarim, yeah I have it here not sure if it was installed by default or not
[21:13] <MonkeyDust> abdulkarim  sudo apt install transmission
[21:13] <MonkeyDust> oh, wafflejock said it
[21:16] <player0k> hi to all
[21:16] <player0k> Can someone help me with a question? http://askubuntu.com/questions/779082/ubuntu-16-04-gnome-session-ubuntu-not-found
[21:21] <helpy> i can't get urdu fonts right
[21:21] <helpy> http://askubuntu.com/questions/299424/urdu-fonts-not-rendering-properly-in-chrome
[21:21] <helpy> can anyone help ? i have done everything possible
[21:23] <Denise> join
[21:24] <josephpagoda-lap> so I just tried using the mtrack driver, and it mocks me
[21:24] <Guest71221> Can anyone offer advice to a beginner?
[21:24] <josephpagoda-lap> when I disable the synaptics driver and just have a secton for the mtrack driver, my mouse doesn't move at all...
[21:24] <josephpagoda-lap> Guest71221: what's going on?
[21:25] <Guest71221> Joseph, I'm trying to download and install Ubuntu 14.04 with no success.
[21:26] <calmar> Guest71221: problem is where?
[21:27] <Guest71221> I make an iso disk and get it started installing, then popups for windows driver updates are everywhere. I'm trying to replace WIN7 with ubuntu
[21:28] <genii> Sounds suspiciously like a wubi
[21:29] <Guest71221> Wubi?
[21:29] <calmar> popups for windows driver, Guest71221 ? more specific?
[21:29] <Bashing-om> Guest71221: Did you verify the .iso download .. And what option in the installer did you select ?
[21:29] <k1l> Guest71221: did you boot the usb or did you run that in windows?
[21:30] <genii> k1l: Exactly...
[21:30] <Guest71221> It pops up in the middle of the download- two buttons on a small area- one flashing green.
[21:33] <calmar> Guest34048: .. so the problem is with downloading the iso?
[21:34] <calmar> Guest34048: or download of the packages?
[21:34] <calmar> while installing
[21:35] <player0k_>  Can someone help me with a question?   http://askubuntu.com/questions/779082/ubuntu-16-04-gnome-session-ubuntu-not-found
[21:35] <PickledEggs> Hey sorry calmar, I was Guest34048 but I think you were looking for someone else
[21:36] <Bashing-om> !info katoolin
[21:36] <calmar> PickledEggs: yeah true sorry
[21:36] <calmar> and he quit actually
[21:37] <player0k_> ubottu, don't use that shit
[21:37] <teward> player0k_: please don't repeat yourself
[21:38] <OerHeks> player0k_, so you installed kali tools with a github script?
[21:39] <Cprossu> whelp I'll try one more time!\
[21:39] <Cprossu> hey what's the easiest way to override false EDID? I have a monitor that has a recc'd edid of 1280x768 @ 48.7hz (it will run fine forced at 60hz but I'd be fine with it at 1024x768 @ 60hz since it is a digital signage thing)... every time the machine reboots it defaults to the incorrect edid, same if the monitor is unplugged/replugged. graphics is like i945g on an integrated itx atom board
[21:39] <OerHeks> player0k_, good luck with that, not really supported here, try #kali-linux
[21:41] <player0k_> OerHeks, yes
[21:41] <player0k_> OerHeks,  i broke whole packages dependencies
[21:43] <player0k_> Now I'm trying to bring back to life gnome-session
[21:43] <OerHeks> there must be a reason kali hanged from ubuntu to debian ..
[21:47] <k1l> player0k_: make backups of your data and reinstall. there is no way back after using those scripts
[21:50] <player0k_> k1l, thanks.... I will continue to use the KDE
[21:50] <aash> how to set up linux machines in network using oracle vm ware
[21:51] <aash> popey:hi
[22:04] <josephpagoda-lap> anyone know how to enable the mtrack driver?
[22:06] <OerHeks> there is some wiki https://help.ubuntu.com/community/MacBookPro11-1/utopic#A2.6_Fixing_the_touchpad
[22:12] <vlab> is there a reason ubuntu shows up twice on my boot manager?
[22:12] <vlab> both lead to the same install
[22:12] <vlab> err bootloader
[22:13] <OerHeks> 2 different kernels, perhaps ?
[22:14] <josephpagoda-lap> OerHeks: i hope it works
[22:14] <OerHeks> josephpagoda-lap, there are more pages with the same info, so i guess it will >> http://yarenty.blogspot.nl/2014/08/how-to-fix-macbook-pro-touchpad-on.html
[22:14] <vlab> i do see vmlinuz-generic and vmlinuz-generic.efo.signed
[22:15] <vlab> in /boot/ could i safely remove one?
[22:15] <josephpagoda-lap> OerHeks: I've tried that already
[22:15] <OerHeks> oh efi boot .. not sure you can remove one
[22:15] <josephpagoda-lap> and just didn't have my mouse working at all after that
[22:17] <josephpagoda-lap> here goes nothing though
[22:18] <Allan_> Hi
[22:19] <josephpagoda-lap> OerHeks: well, my mouse doesn't work now
[22:19] <josephpagoda-lap> :P
[22:19] <josephpagoda-lap> I think those instructions are broken
[22:21] <OerHeks> hmm bad news :-(
[22:21] <josephpagoda-lap> yeah
[22:21] <josephpagoda-lap> at least I know keyboard shortcuts
[22:21] <josephpagoda-lap> so I think I can revert the changes
[22:21] <josephpagoda-lap> but i would think with issues being over for multiple years this would be addressed by now :-/
[22:22] <Allan_> Who can help me loading Fedora GRUB to Windows Bootloader
[22:23] <k1l> Allan_: the #fedora guys or the ones in ##windows
[22:23] <josephpagoda-lap> ok, just installed the synaptics drivers
[22:23] <josephpagoda-lap> rebooting again
[22:24] <Allan_> #Windows has a channel?
[22:24] <squinty> ##windows
[22:24] <Allan_> double ##?
[22:24] <squinty> yes
[22:24] <Allan_> thank you
[22:25] <squinty> yw
[22:25] <jordan36262> hi are you guys active?
[22:26]  * OerHeks is watching join/parts
[22:27]  * jordan36262 is exploring the world of IRC
[22:27] <jordan36262> what are your favorite active technology-related freenode IRC channels?
[22:27] <winston2k> hi jordan
[22:28] <jordan36262> hi winston
[22:28] <squinty> !alis | jordan36262
[22:29]  * jordan36262 tips his fedora for squinty 
[22:29] <winston2k> jordan what irc client are you using?
[22:29] <max-> iesi acasa
[22:29] <jordan36262> hexchat
[22:29] <jordan36262> a good choice?
[22:30] <_`Mark> bad choice ;-s
[22:30] <OerHeks> josephpagoda-lap, maybe you face this issue, not beiing member of input group https://github.com/BlueDragonX/xf86-input-mtrack/issues/90
[22:30] <winston2k> jordan sure hexchat is good
[22:30] <Velveeta_Chef> hexchat is nice
[22:30] <winston2k> im using irssi command line client
[22:30] <winston2k> getting used to it
[22:31] <rsaw6002> Ok I'm having issues adding i386 arch to new 14.04 LTS install. I've done sudo dpkg --add-architecture i386 and then print arch and still only see amd64 listed. Any ideas?
[22:31] <MiniFridge> Hello, I have GPG4Win on my Windows computer and want to verify my Ubuntu iso authenticity. However, running the command shown in step 2 here is giving me an error.
[22:31] <MiniFridge> http://www.ubuntu.com/download/how-to-verify
[22:32] <MiniFridge> gpg: "8439 38DF 228D 22F7 B374 2BC0 D94A A3F0 EFE2 1092" not a key ID: skipping
[22:32] <MiniFridge> gpg: "C598 6B4F 1257 FFA8 6632 CBA7 4618 1433 FBB7 5451" not a key ID: skipping
[22:32] <OerHeks> rsaw6002, no need for add-arch or ia32-libs anymore, just install the package:i386 and install -f fixes the rest
[22:32] <MiniFridge> I'm running the command in Windows Powershell
[22:32] <MiniFridge> I have GPG 2 installed
[22:34] <jordan36262> "##c++ :Cannot send to channel" why is that?
[22:34] <rsaw6002> Tried that first, unable to fix dependencies is what I get
[22:35] <SonikkuAmerica> MiniFridge - why not just use a checksum to verify?
[22:36] <bprompt> jordan36262:    means, the channel is in I think is +r mode, which means, you can only post to channel if your nick is registered in the network
[22:36] <squinty> MiniFridge,  if you are wanting to check the md5 sum, there is a freebie called Winmd5 you can download.
[22:36] <MiniFridge> SonikkuAmerica, I wanted to check the authenticity
[22:36] <MiniFridge> squinty, nah, I want to check the signatures
[22:36] <MiniFridge> I have HashCalc for the sums
[22:36] <jordan36262> bprompt, oh ok. whats the command for registering?
[22:36] <bprompt> jordan36262:    a sign of lame ops, usually IMO, and not much worth bothering with
[22:36] <dax> !register | jordan36262
[22:36] <jordan36262> !register
[22:36] <dax> jordan36262: (this isn't a general IRC support channel, please use #freenode for future queries)
[22:37] <jordan36262> !register | jordan36262
[22:37] <\9> jordan36262: /msg nickserv help register
[22:37] <jordan36262> ok sorry guys
[22:40] <rjdj> Hi
[22:41] <rjdj> I downloaded Ubuntu desktop from the website, used the USB app to burn it to USB disk and them when booting off it, it goes through some Ubuntu screens and then my monitor goes out of frequency. Please advise?
[22:43] <josephpagoda-lap> that might be it
[22:43] <josephpagoda-lap> let me check
[22:44] <ubuntu__> curious is there a way to turn on /setup kernel debugging on a ubuntu operating system either for com/usb or tcp/port without having to recompile the kernel
[22:45] <ubuntu__> is there a grub config file setting for this or a sysctrl setting for it some option so that i can connect be kgdb debugger from my other machine to this one
[22:46] <ubuntu__> It doesn't seem right not to have the ability to kernel debug a problem without having to recompile a kernel with menuconfig for it
[22:46] <rsaw6002> So it looks like libcairo2:i386 is the broken dependent. I can't get it to install at all. Any thoughts?
[22:46] <ubuntu__> I have been told there is no standard but there really is if you consider using menuconfig to do so
[22:47] <ubuntu__> But there should be a config setting for linux and unix like major system you think like microsofts msconfig or bcedit options to set a com or tcp/port up for it... but thats just me
[22:48] <MiniFridge> Well, I guess I can just check the hash. Low chance of it being compromised anyway, probably.
[22:48] <ubuntu__> If anybody know please explain how you do it without recompiling a kernel
[22:48] <rsaw6002> rjdj: what are you running Ubuntu on? Laptop desktop?
[22:48] <MiniFridge> Thanks anyways.
[22:53] <josephpagoda-lap> ah ha, it was that my user needed to be a member of the input group
[22:53] <josephpagoda-lap> what user does gdm run as?
[22:53] <OerHeks> yay
[22:53] <josephpagoda-lap> (I'm on ubuntu gnome)
[22:53] <josephpagoda-lap> so that way my mouse can work before I login too
[22:54] <OerHeks> josephpagoda-lap, no, newer versions of Xorg are rootless, they do not have permission to access input devices by default.
[22:54] <josephpagoda-lap> OerHeks: yes
[22:54] <josephpagoda-lap> that's my point
[22:54] <OerHeks> before login ..
[22:54] <josephpagoda-lap> what user does it run as before I login?
[22:54] <josephpagoda-lap> :)
[22:55] <josephpagoda-lap> that way I can fix the touchpad so it works before login
[22:59] <josephpagoda-lap> any ideas OerHeks?
[23:01] <bh_solid> linuxzasve.org
[23:01] <OerHeks> not sure how to determin this, gdm
[23:01] <OerHeks> for lightdm i think there is a place for a script https://wiki.ubuntu.com/LightDM#Adding_System_Hooks
[23:04] <josephpagoda-lap> i suppose I could make a script to chmod the /dev/event* to make it world readable and such
[23:04] <josephpagoda-lap> or would that not work?
[23:09] <ubuntu__> one laptop one desktop
[23:25] <ubuntu__> so is kernel debugging only available from custom linux or recompiled linux?
[23:25] <ubuntu__> Or is there away to turn it on on any linux operating system you have root access to?
[23:27] <ubuntu__> Kind of wanted the ability to turn it on like you do for a windows machine not having to recompile obviously
[23:30] <OerHeks> https://wiki.ubuntu.com/DebuggingProcedures#Kernel or https://wiki.ubuntu.com/Kernel/Debugging is  a good start
[23:37] <ubuntu__> OerHeks ya thats not what i am looking for more on how / if it is possible to turn on /set up kernel remote debugging on a random linux box without recompiling
[23:37] <ubuntu__> So i can attach it using kgdb
[23:40] <ubuntu__> Don't want to recompile/ restart the os to do this. And you should have the ability to step thru kernel code line by line just as gdb does it in userland make sense to me. Dmesg, strace , ptrace ,...etc can only do some much if one wants to see very thing except missing the bootloader code
[23:41] <ubuntu__> very => everything
[23:42] <kholdstayre> ubuntu suspends when inactive, even though it is set to not suspend in the power management settings, anyone know why?
[23:47] <SpectreNectar> greetings, I just installed Ubuntu today and was wondering how to run a program that I also made just today =) like, I dbl click and nothing happens. Any ideas? thx
[23:48] <htns> SpectreNectar, what did you write the program in?
[23:48] <SpectreNectar> Code::Blocks (C++) runs fine inside the IDE
[23:51] <SpectreNectar> htns, I'm very new to Ubuntu and am also wondering how to maybe try and run it through the terminal to see possible outout errors
[23:52] <htns> SpectreNectar, yes, within the terminal go to the directory where the program is `cd /path/to/dir/' (without quotes) and run the program as such ./your-program-filename
[23:54] <SpectreNectar> htns, aha! error while loading shared libraries: libphysfs.so
[23:54] <SpectreNectar> htns, so I need to include the so
[23:54] <SpectreNectar> right?
[23:55] <htns> SpectreNectar, I am not an expert in c++, please consider the c++ irc channel
[23:56] <SpectreNectar> htns, I think I got it now though so thanks ^
[23:56] <SpectreNectar> ^^
[23:56] <htns> not a problem, anytime
[23:59] <josephpagoda-lap> OerHeks: So I've just about got everything working
[23:59] <josephpagoda-lap> it works much better than before
[23:59] <josephpagoda-lap> but I can't do a two finger click on the button area of the touchpad to right click
[23:59] <josephpagoda-lap> so my workaround was that I enabled 3 finger clicking to make it work
[23:59] <josephpagoda-lap> and that is a suitable workaround
[23:59] <josephpagoda-lap> it's _almost_ perfect